Black Sheep and Bad Apples

In this episode, we get together to explore the Twelve Tribes cult, with our guest Eunice! The religious organization, which has had many name changes, patrols college campuses, cafes, and has, surprisingly, also toured with and in the parking lots at Grateful Dead shows. They got their start by owning and operating welcoming and warm coffee shops and staffing them with free labor. The organization has grown from a small group in Tennessee to a worldwide organization with membership in the thousands. They still own cafes, delis, and even a yerba mate company, and are, as always, recruiting. *Content Warning*: This episode contains descriptions of potential child abuse that some people may find upsetting. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

In this episode, Loren starts off by saying the wrong season and episode number. Shawn and their guest, Alex, delve into some history of California to try to examine exactly how California banned open carry weapons. We look at the inception of California starting with the small town of San Francisco, back when it had 500 souls living there and look at the weapons laws as it expanded throughout the years. It's an examination of how racism has played into a lot of weapons bans throughout California's history. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Tonight we discuss how the United States became possessive over the Caribbean and Latin America during the late 1800's and early 1900's. Those regions had a lot of shit, and corporations and bankers wanted it, and wielded the United States military as their "Big Stick". Listen in as we discuss the Banana Wars and how they may have almost helped try to overthrow the US. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Loren explores the world of "the end is near!!!" With special guest Kevin Porter from The Podcast That No One Listens To! Loren runs down what the end actually looks like. Historically speaking, there's some pretty strong indicators of failing or failed civilizations. So tonight we explore what the traits of failing civilizations are. We take a look at the question "are we, as the global community, about to collapse?" **Post-show correction: I fucked up and said that Temujin was born August 18th, 1227, that's the date he died. I was wrong, and his birthday is still ambiguous. My apologies. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Shawn and Sam listen as Loren discusses the 10 hikers that died under mysterious circumstances in the remote region of the Ural Mountains in Russia. Named after the leader of the hike Igor Dyatlov, the hikers' bodies were found in various states of dress, with strange, unexplained blunt force injuries. Sam and Shawn wrack their brains to try to solve this mystery one piece at a time. With new research having been just published, there may be a theory that finally explains it all, or does it? You decide. Below are the photos shown the Sam and Shawn during the episode. However, if you'd like to see all of the hikers' photos, you can find them here; https://dyatlovpass.com/cameras . -------Photos------- Dyatlov Group Digging Out The Snow To Put The Tent Down: https://earthsky.org/upl/2021/02/Dyatlov-Pass-01.jpg The Tent When It Was Found: https://media.wired.com/photos/6011c4b54774061ec087b7fb/master/w_2560%2Cc_limit/Science_avalanche_PTPG73.jpg Alleged Photo Of The Yeti: https://news.files.bbci.co.uk/include/extra/shorthand/assets/news/SoLiOdJyCK/assets/6HtGN9jWmi/yeti-950x624.jpeg Possible Cause of Blunt Force Trauma: https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs43247-020-00081-8/MediaObjects/43247_2020_81_Fig5_HTML.png?as=webp Possibly How A Slab Avalanche Could've Formed: https://scitechdaily.com/images/Dyatlov-Group-Tent-Configuration-777x578.jpg --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired March 2nd, 2021: Without a Sam, Loren and Shawn are again joined by singer songwriter Matthew Wallace to discuss Russian Espionage and Maria Butina! They start the episode discussing Joe Biden and the stimulus checks, and meander back into discussing convicted Russian covert operative Maria Butina, a gun rights activist in Russia who used her platform to infiltrate the American National Rifle Association in an attempt to establish back-alley ties with powerful Republicans and conservative figures with an attempt to make contact with then-President Donald Trump. The story is like a slapstick comedy movie about an incompetent spy who, somehow, got at least SOME work done. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

What the fuck was that?! Loren, Sam and Shawn are joined by Matthew Wallace to discuss the news that has happened since we were last on-mic. We discuss the Happy Holidays and the bombing of Nashville on Christmas. We then take a look at the storming of the capitol and some of the players and characters involved in it. We look at the security lapses, potential covert infiltration both in the MAGA protestor party and the actual Capitol and what the possible consequences could be. Also, Matt makes really good music. It's a blend of country, folk, rock, gospel, ragtime and Americana that draws on his experiences of being raised in Baptist churches in Texas. It's energetic, amazing and there's more coming out soon. You can find Matt here: https://matthewwallacemusic.com/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired December 24th, 2020: Loren, Shawn and Sam start off with Sam introducing his new title of Doctor-Mister, and quickly delve into the topic of apples! They're a fascinating tiny little fruits that come in a variety of shapes, flavors and sizes, and they've been present during many historical events. We get together to look at some of the varieties of apple, the folklore they're present in, and where apples actually came from. So, join us as we look at the apple, it has a vast history touching on a little bit of everything from tyrannicide, Norse mythology, gigantic mega-fauna, the silk road, big tech and the beginning steps of science. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired December 17th, 2020: The guys get together to sort-of continue from out last episode. Tonight we're covering a *very* brief history of Cuba and explore the indefinite ownership of Guantanamo Bay. Speaking of which, what happens there? --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired November 25th, 2020: Sam, Shawn and Loren are excited to have Ron back on the show as they discuss The War of Jenkins' Ear, a war that was started exactly how it sounds. It starts with a winding twist through the indigenous peoples of Latin America and the Caribbean, and their contact with Christopher Columbus (spoiler alert: he's a dick). The guys examine the trade and commerce of this time to understand exactly what was happening during The War of Jenkins' Ear. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired November 13th, 2020: The guys wander into history to take a look at the accomplishments of the horrible Bob Jones University, the college that was incredibly racist all the way up until the 2000's. Come join Marcus, Shawn and Loren as they look at how this devoutly religious family created one of the world's biggest, and most racist religious institutions of learning. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired September 25th, 2020: Recorded on our anniversary, 9-11, this is the last installment of our show before a short hiatus. Having said that; Loren brings us the story of the "America's Frontline Doctors" and their very unusual and misleading press conference. He proverbially goes behind the podium and explores who these fascinating and quirky characters are with a few simple questions. Who are these people? Are they real doctors? Is what they're saying true? Could they have ulterior motives for doing something like this? It gets crazy, but we had a lot of fun and laughed so much. Hope you guys enjoy, and we'll talk at you soon. "Tea Party PACs Reap Money For Midterms but Spend Little On Candidates" - The Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/tea-party-pacs-reap-money-for-midterms-but-spend-little-on-candidates/2014/04/26/0e52919a-cbd6-11e3-a75e-463587891b57_story.html Lozano Medical Clinic: https://www.lozanomedicalclinic.com/ "AAEM-ACEP Joint Statement on Physician Misinformation" - The American Academy Of Emergency Medicine: https://www.aaem.org/resources/statements/joint-endorsed/physician-misinformation Medicine Uncensored; https://www.medicineuncensored.com/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired September 17th, 2020: In week three of the Co-Host Takeover, Shawn has taken control of the episode in tonight's session, where he brings the history of porn as the subject for the evening. In a very fun and funny episode, they discuss the history of and the categorization of pornographic material throughout the ages. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired September 8th, 2020: Co-host and resident storyteller Joe takes control over the episode in this session to discuss an odd series of cryptids. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired August 31st, 2020: Sam takes the wheel and steers us down the direction of getting hyped. Caffeine has been used for a very long time, and, perhaps, has been the most common drug consumed ever. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired August 18th, 2020: Tonight's episode talks about the political and social agitator who pissed of the powerful for nearly a half decade. The Irish-born Mary Jones, who later became known as Mother Jones, is the subject for tonight's story. Loren brings us some stories about the most dangerous woman in America. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

The guys get together without Sam to listen to a sweet ass story about the Boston Molasses Flood of 1919. Tons of people were hurt, some were killed, and even more covered in the sticky sugar. Resources; "Solving a Mystery Behind the Deadly ‘Tsunami of Molasses' of 1919" from The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/26/science/boston-molasses-flood-science.html "The Physics of the Boston Molasses Flood" from fyfluiddynamics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5sYoUnp5A0 "5 questions you may have about Boston's deadly Great Molasses Flood, answered" from Boston.com https://www.boston.com/news/history/2019/01/14/great-molasses-flood-questions --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Loren brings the guys together for an explanation of how cults recruit, work, operate and target their victims. It also highlights some of the techniques formerly used, and currently used by cult deprogrammers like Ted Patrick to help people extract themselves from cult-like groups. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired July 3rd, 2020: Tonight Loren gets into the world of Pickup Artists and describes some of the most well known of them. Their world is a weird world of improving the social interactions of people who are perhaps lacking those skills. However, some of those techniques turn quite strangely into stories emotional abuse, misogyny, vanity and the lust for fame. Video Link: "The Pickup Artist - Temporada 1" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sech-D4lT9I --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

We have Matthew Wallace joining us again as we talk a little bit about the Trail of Tears, The Irish Potato Famine and how, after nearly 170 years, a thread of solidarity connected these two stories during a crisis. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Well, the guys get together for a discussion about workers rights and protesting. Specifically the United Mine Workers and the United Auto Workers of America in the early 1900's. They'll be discussing a few of the key players that brought about safer work environments, better pay and the weekend for workers, as well as branched out into solidarity with other disparaged peoples. Show Notes: USA Today Article: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/budget-and-spending/2018/05/22/what-average-american-needs-in-emergency-savings/35175419/ Haymarket Affair - Illinois Labor History: http://www.illinoislaborhistory.org/the-haymarket-affair/ "The Coal Mining Massacre America Forgot" - Smithsonian Magazine: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/forgotten-matewan-massacre-was-epicenter-20th-century-mine-wars-180963026/ "A Day in The Life of a West Virginia Coal Miner" - Literary Hub: https://lithub.com/a-day-in-the-life-of-a-west-virginia-coal-miner/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired April 30th, 2020: The guys get their Joe back! Oh, and they also discuss Dylann Roof, the guy who walked into Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina and shot 9 black people dead. Loren brings us the story of his crime, but, more importantly, the radicalization that led to it and how the internet played a roll in his actions. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired April 26th, 2020: The guys bring a more loose-fit to this show. They've found some manifestos and read through them to see what they're like. They read from The Flat Earth Manifesto, The Martian Blowjob Manifesto, and some dude who claims to be a chrononaut, a time traveler. It's a silly, strange episode filled with a lot of fun, and strange commercials. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired April 15th, 2020: The guys get together to discuss the terrible events that transpired on January 29, 1979. Their guest, Kelly, offers some insight from the world of psychology. Loren discusses Brenda Spencer, the 16 year old who, when asked why she shot at the children and faculty at school across the street from her home, responded by saying "I hate Mondays." It's a rough episode featuring some graphic content, that may not be suitable for everyone. Loren analyzes the event, the different interviews and parole hearings and dives into who Brenda is, and what really caused her to do such heinous crimes. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired April 14th, 2020: Loren tries to track down who the fuck created the rumor about there being a Toilet Paper Shortage, and dives into the details of who he thinks may be the culprit. He also looks into some of the misinformation out there, asking the question "Who may stand to profit from this (mis)information?" He also provides some advice as to how to prepare, if you must, and how to do so without panicking. Tonight is an episode about COVID-19, scarcity, and the fear of scarcity. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired April 5th, 2020: In our final Cohost Takeover Episode, Sam sits the guys down to talk about a few different styles of cryptids, the Mongolian Death Worm, and the strange legend of a worm-like dragon: The Lambton Wyrm. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired March 24th, 2020: On our second Cohost Take-over episode, Shawn takes us through the story of the Loch Ness Monster. Is it real? Should people be afraid? Well, like all good mysteries, the story may, perhaps, be a little less about monsters and a little more about bad guys. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired March 13th, 2020: On our first Cohost Take-over episode, we pass the reigns to Joe Dacey this week, who has decided to take us on an interesting autobiography of some of his survival stories. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Tonight's episode is the part two of the true story as told by Francois Edouard Raynal. The shipwreck of the Grafton has left six members in a state of survival in a sub-antarctic archipelago, after a storm forced their ship to crash. They found themselves on the Auckland Island Archipelago during a expedition with plenty of gear. Fortunately, all the men survived the wreck, but still are subjected to the harsh terrain, and dismal cold, of the islands. As they manage to provide themselves with food, water and shelter they begin to wonder, do they have to save themselves, or is rescue coming? --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired March 6th, 2020: Part one of two. We get together for the tale of the Grafton. In a story based upon the account of the survival of Francois Edouard Raynal. In 1863, Raynal and five others took to the seas in order to find their riches in the Antarctic Seas near New Zealand. This story is about the shipwreck and survival of those men. They left in search of precious resources off Campbell Island. After a failed excursion, they made their way back to New Zealand and decided to stop off the coast of the fateful Auckland Islands Archipelago. When a storm struck, Raynal and company found themselves shipwrecked, alone, and left to their own devices. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired Mar 5, 2020: The guys discuss the long an arduous trip that a simple fisherman was forced to go on. They're talking about Philip Ashton who was kidnapped by pirates in 1722. Its a big long story about Ashton's survival and resilience in the face of a fuming, volatile captain, and his escape from the pirates' clutches Once free from their custody, he's left to struggle to survive on a desolate island. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired, Feb 23, 2020: We talk about robots and AI. Loren's super impressed and curious, everyone else seems a little more hesitant. Ron doesn't have a mic in the beginning for whatever reason. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired February 9th, 2020: Tonight we talk about how biohacking may change the world. Scary things come from amazing ideas and we discuss how bad, good, and helpful technology can be. They also discuss groups of people "Biohackers" who are out there implementing changes by doing DIY biology to hopefully discover some of the hidden secrets of the world. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired January 23rd, 2020. They're back! With a new format, better structure and crazy shit to talk about, BS+BA are back to talk technological improvements to the human body. This episode is about augmenting the human body to be what people could only dream of when they created the Million Dollar Man. We talk about how we can use technology for physical therapy and rehabilitation, as well as enhancing current human abilities. Things get real interesting when extra-sensory technology is introduced. We check out a colorblind man who can "hear" color via a technological implant, a woman who can "feel" earthquakes throughout the earth, and a badass bionic lens. Here's some links to the technology talked about in this episode: The HAL, a physical therapy and rehabilitation exoskeleton; https://youtu.be/CHEkTUr4iWg The Guardian XO, a exosuit designed to enhance human strength; https://youtu.be/zLWuHo63C8k The Guardian GT, industrial strength robotic arms controlled via an exosuit; https://youtu.be/gla1iijT5oU --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired January 12th, 2020. The guys get together for a fun discussion about how to properly wear pants below your nipples. Loren's curious about if some Americans sexualize meat sometimes. Ron, inappropriately and inexplicably, uses his soundboard to make a sad, strange story. He then uses his soundboard to help us all make an impromptu News Flash about the duck invasion and some strange fake commercials. They also find another target for their toxic masculinity and jealousy in a new artist. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Matthew Wallace joins Loren and Shawn in an empty studio for a night where they discuss gifts for Christmas, as well as disk golf. Loren also notifies everyone of how he's a piece of shit when it comes to discs. After the break, Matt and Shawn talk about their Fantasy Football Season a little bit. They then dive head into the break-up of the Christian religion throughout the years (frowny face). --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Shawn and Loren get into a nice, quiet, wandering conversation for the evening, as it's just the two of them tonight. Loren gets a personal, talking about a possible new love interest. They bring up social anxiety and how nicotine operates within the realm of closing conversations. Loren and Shawn also discusses how far the podcast has come since they first started nearly four months after the first episode. Also, what the fuck was with that TV show "It Takes a Theif"? --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

The guys get together with a friend, Mel, to discuss the alleged Bigfoot. She and her loved one are really into Bigfoot, and so we bring them on to discuss the possibility and the sightings of Bigfoot. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Ron brings his soundboard, Shawn takes the show over. The guys talks about their strangest experiences of being mistaken for other people. Loren describes a show where someone offered him a binkie, probably full of drugs, at a show. Ron shows off his beat pad while everyone embarrasses themselves. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired Dec 4, 2019. We open up with 4th Corner Productions fake commerciallllls with Steven Pagaaaaaan! Our friend joins us for a fun little conversation. We're all fairly buzzed and pretty exhausted from the show Merit Parcel had played the night before a little bit. They discuss the idea of being an escort. As usual, Loren doesn't bring a topic, instead they play a game called Monkeypaw. They decide to take a wish and ruin each other's wish. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired November 21, 2019. Special Guest David Johansing joins us for another meandering discussion. Loren expresses his frustration for the phrase "stop resisting" and how it's used before one has been placed under arrest. They then discuss awkward talkers. Whether it be a close-talker, a lingering-hugger and people who are domineering about your eye contact. Ron describes his "Space Dick" dream and the boys do fake commercials. Then we talk about local politics for a little while and then onto simulation theory! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired November 14th, 2019. The dudes get together with Joe Dacey and Matthew Wallace. After addressing some news, Loren brings up animal attacks and some cool shit about those animal attacks. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired November 6th, 2019. They're back with a hard hitter this week. "Gene Machine" is here! In this episode they talk about if self-help people are full of shit or not, give some props to HBO for getting Adventure Time back on the air, Loren talks about his nipples and they all ponder the ambiguity of right and wrong from several hypothetical perspectives. They don't find what actual *is* right or wrong, but they find that more details one has with will drastically change what is good or bad. Between good and bad, and right and wrong, one will find nuance. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired October 30th, 2019. Eight episodes in, the gang wants to try a live-stage podcast, but doesn't quite nail it. What they do end up doing really well is having a shitload of bar-sounds in the background, not hearing each other very well and telling some personal spooky stories. Loren starts with a comedic retelling of a real horror story that happened to him, and as the stories go along they become gradually more spooky. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired October 23rd, 2019. Loren decides to discuss the differences between monogamy, non-monogamy and polyamory. They discuss how all of these options can have their own merit and value. We seem to think that some people can and some people can do these things. Monogamy, non-monogamy and polyamory may not be for everyone. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originially aired: October 16th, 2019: We sit down outside on a lovely morning and discuss their band, and Ron's father joins us for a little while to discuss his thoughts. We then bring Ron back in for a meandering conversation about Dune, Sci-Fi, and a lot of other strange things. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally published October 10th, 2019: A good friend named Joe comes onto the show to tell us about some wild stuff. He's interesting as all hell, has thousands of stories, and is very funny. We had a lot of fun making this one. Original description: "The Bois are joined by Mr. Joe Dacey as they discuss, honestly, just some crazy shit. Like, why the fuck was China tryin'a send tortoises to space? Why the fuck have we not known that Happy Birthday was copyrighted? Also WHO THE FUCK IS JEFFREY (Geoffrey?) THE MONGOOSE?! Welcome to Black Sheep And Bad Apples." --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired October 4th, 2019. In this episode the podcast has finally been named, so they sit with their friend Ivyl to take a look at failure and how it might not always be as bad as we think it is. We share stories of when our personal failures may have made some of the best things in our lives. Failing upwards seems to be an option. Original description: "They've finally decided the name of the podcast. Black Sheep and Bad Apples spends some time with their good friend and special guest Ivyl, as they discuss how failure has affected them and whether failing is always a bad thing." --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired September 26th, 2019, episode three is yet another meandering conversation about various things. Still unscripted, the guys get together for a chat about politics, Greta Thumburg, and the importance of voting. Original description: "In episode three we talk about 'PoLiTiCs'. Come join us as we talk about our WORD OF THE DAY, how important is to vote, and as always BAND BEEF." --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally aired: September 19th, 2019. Episode 2 of the Black Sheep and Bad Apples podcast was still unscripted, but with slightly better topics. The first guest, Casey McWilliams, comes on to discuss how inspiration finds us, and how we go about creating everything from poetry and writing to music and art. Original description: "Episode 2 of the as yet untitled podcast invites you to participate in the naming of the show. Liking and commenting will help us figure out what to name this bitch. Also titled "Creative Process," we have poet Casey McWilliams on the show to talk about poetry, music, and the process of creating art. Ron's grandmother is also mentioned, as well as an episode full of plugs. Which kind?" --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message

Originally published on September 12th, 2019. This is the first episode of the later named Black Sheep and Bad Apples podcast. This episode is unscripted, unlike the later episodes. It's not as informational as the later episodes, but it's where we started. 18 years after the event, we discuss were we were when 9-11 happened. Explicit content. Original description: "This is the first episode of The Loren O'Brien Show, which is a working title. As you will hear in this episode, the guys trapped in 4th Corner Productions are letting you, the listener, help us make the decision about what we call it, while we talk about band beef, a spittoon and where we were when 9-11 happened. Enjoy. *Edit* Now renamed Black Sheep and Bad Apples!" --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/blacksheepandbadapples/message