This bimonthly podcast is all about the fascinating and complex interactions between the worlds of law and faith in Australia, and every episode will feature an interview with a different guest. My aim is to provide insight and perspectives from across the spectrum of religious and ideological beliefs.
Late last year, in a case named Bird v DP, the High Court of Australia overturned a trial court's finding that the Ballarat Diocese of the Catholic Church should be held vicariously liable for the sexual abuse committed by one of its priests in 1971. With me to discuss this important case is Associate Professor Neil Foster of Newcastle Law School, an academic who teaches and researches in the areas of torts, workplace health and safety, and law and religion. Learn more about Neil and his publications at his Newcastle Law School Staff Page and follow his writings on law and religion at his popular Law and Religion Australia blog. The case of Bird v DP can be found online on the High Court website here. Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
Our topic this episode is religiously-affiliated law schools and how a legal education in one differs than in a secular law school. The United States has 65 religiously-affiliated law schools, Australia has two, and Canada—a country often compared to Australia in size and background—has none. My guest is Professor Keith Thompson from the University of Notre Dame Australia, one of two religiously-affiliated law schools in Australia. Learn more about Professor Keith Thompson at his University of Notre Dame Australia staff page.
How has the political discourse around religious freedom in Australia changed in recent years? This episode's guest is Dr Elenie Poulos, an academic from the Macquarie School of Social Sciences and the author of several recent papers on the topic. Learn more about Dr Poulos' work on her Macquarie University Staff Page. Read the articles discussed in the podcast by following the links in Dr Poulos' Publications & Media page. Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
In 2021, the International Theological Commission of the Catholic Church released a major policy document titled "Religious Freedom for the Good of All". This episode features my contribution to a blog series on the document hosted by the International Centre for Law and Religious Studies. Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
Our topic for today is witchcraft and sorcery. Even today, in some parts of the developing world, an accusation that a person is a witch can lead to assault, torture, and even murder. This episode features an interview with Professor Miranda Forsyth from the School of Regulation and Global Governance at ANU. Professor Forsyth is a chief investigator of a major multi-year project on how to best overcome sorcery accusations and related violence in Papua New Guinea. Learn more about Professor Forsyth's work on her ANU staff page. The grant-funded project in PNG has its own dedicated website: Stop Sorcery Violence. An important resource is the International Network against Accusations of Witchcraft and Associated Harmful Practices. Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
Section 116 of the Australian Constitution guarantees the free exercise of religion. Yet, the High Court has always given the provision a very narrow interpretation. Recently, some scholars have suggested a new test, "structured proportionality", should be applied in the context of freedom of religion. In this episode, Guy Baldwin, a Lecturer in Law at the University of Manchester, discusses proportionality and its alternatives. Learn more about Guy's work on his University of Manchester staff page. Read Guy's recent article on proportionality and freedom of religion in the Australian Journal of Law and Religion. Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
One of the distinctive features of much recent law and religion scholarship in Australia is the conscious integration of theological concepts into legal analysis. How does an explicitly religious worldview fit into a secular legal system? With me today to talk theology and jurisprudence is Associate Professor Joshua Neoh from the ANU College of Law. Learn more about Associate Professor Joshua Neoh's work on his ANU staff page. His book Law, Love and Freedom: From the Sacred to the Secular is published by Cambridge University Press. Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
Should the "spiritual but not religious" or "Nones" (individuals who are not members of organised religious groups) be able to make freedom of religious claims? In this special episode, I join a fascinating debate in the legal literature by presenting my views in a rejoinder to those of Professor Mark Movsesian. Read Professor Movsesian's article "The New Thoreaus", follow the St John's Center for Law and Religion's blog, and listen to the excellent Legal Spirits podcast. Read my paper "'A la carte' Spirituality and the Future of Freedom of Religion", get a briefer take in my contribution on the topic to The Conversation, or a longer treatment in my book Faith or Fraud: Fortune-telling, Spirituality, and the Law. Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
In many jurisdictions in Australian, public schools are allowed or even required to offer students religious instruction classes. In recent years, this practice has become more controversial. With me to talk about religious instruction in the public schools is Dr Jennifer Bleazby, a Senior Lecturer at Monash University. You can learn more about Dr Bleazby's work at her Monash University staff page. Dr Bleazby's recent journal article 'Religious instruction in the post-truth world: A critique of Australia's controversial religious instruction classes in public schools' can be found here. Feedback and topic suggestions are always welcome at jeremy.patrick@usq.edu.au Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
The results of the recent census confirmed the expectations of those who study the demographics of religious identity in Australia: change is happening, and it's happening fast! This episode features an interview with Professor Adam Possamai of Western Sydney University, author of a new book titled 'Religion and Change in Australia.' We'll discuss the census results, whether the trends will continue, and how Australia fits into larger global religious demographics. To learn more about Professor Possamai and his work, visit his WSU staff page. Professor Possamai's book Religion and Change in Australia is available from the Routledge website.
Welcome to Season 3 of Law and Religion Down Under! In this episode, we turn our attention to Indonesia. Indonesia is a sprawling majority-Muslim democracy with growing influence in the Pacific region. This episode features an interview with Professor Robert Hefner (Boston University), an expert on the relationship between religion and the state in Indonesia. Join us for a discussion of “registered religions”, the tension between pluralist and Islamist elements, and the future of religious freedom in the country. Note: This interview was recorded in November of 2022, and thus predates the new Criminal Code passed by Indonesia's Parliament in December of that year. Learn more about Professor Hefner's work at his Boston University staff page. Professor Hefner's recent article about religious freedom in Indonesia can be found in the journal religions. Did you know Professor Hefner has produced several documentaries on the politics of religion and citizenship in Indonesia? Find out more about “Indonesian Pluralities” Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
Read the decision of the Episcopal Standards Board of the Anglican Church of Australia here. Mr Garth Blake's article in the Ecclesiastical Law Journal can be found here. Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
In 2020, a unanimous High Court of Australia found that the jury that convicted Cardinal George Pell of historical sex abuse crimes must have had a reasonable doubt. The decision set Pell free after 13 months of imprisonment, but has led to continued controversy. Did the High Court get it right? Did Pell's status as a senior religious figure affect the process at any stage? How much respect should we give jury decisions? This episode features an interview with criminal and evidence law expert Associate Professor Andrew Hemming to discuss the Pell decision. The High Court decision in Pell v The Queen can be downloaded from the High Court judgement library. Andrew Hemming's articles on the Pell decision have been published in Volume 1 of the Australian Journal of Law and Religion and in a forthcoming issue of the Criminal Law Journal. Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
What can the history of the relationship between law and religion in Australian history tell us about the present and perhaps even the future? In this episode, we discuss religion in colonial Australia, how the relationship between religion and the state stood at the time of Federation, and how demographic changes have affected the religious affiliation of Australians in recent decades. Guest: Dr Joanna Cruickshank, Senior Lecturer at Deakin University. Joanna specialises in history, and has written extensively about the role of religion in Australia. Her recent article “Religious Freedom in ‘the most godless place under Heaven': making policy for religion in Australia” appears in the journal History Australia. Contact me at jeremy.patrick@usq.edu.au Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
Does the composition of the High Court of Australia fairly reflect the demographics of the country? A brief essay tries to answer the question. The entire "Judges and Their Religions" series can be found on the International Center for Law and Religion Studies website here: https://talkabout.iclrs.org/2021/10/25/judges-and-their-religions/ Citations to quotations and assertions used in the spoken essay can be found in the written version there. Questions, comments, or topic suggestions? Please contact jeremy.patrick@usq.edu.au Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
Did you know Cardinal Pell once sued the National Gallery of Victoria on a charge of blasphemy? What does it mean for something to be blasphemous? In this episode, Professor Brent Rodriguez-Plate joins me to talk about blasphemy in law, art, and religion. The court case discussed is captioned Pell v The Council of the Trustees of the National Gallery of Victoria, [1998] 2 V.R. 391. A 1998 note on the case by Bede Harris can be found in Volume 22(1) of the Melbourne University Law Review starting at page 217. A photograph of Serrano's "Piss Christ" can be found at the artwork's own Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ You can find out more about Professor Rodriguez-Plate on his website, http://www.sbrentplate.net/ The Association for Public Religion in Intellectual Life has a new website at https://www.aprilonline.org/ The new Australian Journal of Law and Religion is at www.ausjlr.com Questions or Comments? You can get in touch with me at jeremy.patrick@usq.edu.au Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
In late 2021, the Victorian Parliament passed new amendments to the State's anti-discrimination laws. These amendments limit the current exemptions provided to religious groups in a clash of what seem see as religious freedom versus equality. This episode's guest is University of Newcastle Associate Professor Neil Foster. Find out more about Neil at his University of Newcastle staff page. His blog, Law and Religion Australia, is a great way to keep track of current events in the area. Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons. Questions? Comments? E-mail the host, Jeremy Patrick, at jeremy.patrick@usq.edu.au
Voluntary Assisted Dying has become law in Queensland. In this episode, Rev. Dr. Adam McIntosh explains what VAD is, how the new law will operate, and what it represents for our understanding of the relationship between religion and lawmaking. You can find out more about Adam at his Linkedin page. The report of the consultation group for the Queensland Synod of the Uniting Church can be found here. Information from Queensland Health about the VAD legislation can be found here. Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons. Questions? Comments? E-mail the host, Jeremy Patrick, at jeremy.patrick@usq.edu.au
What should university students be taught about the relationship between law and religion in Australia? How should we describe the colonial period, and what issues are most important in the present? In this episode, Dr Renae Barker discusses the ins and outs of the special elective course on law and religion that she teaches at the University of Western Australia. You can learn more about Renae's book, State and Religion: The Australian Story (Routledge, 2019), on the publisher's website page. Information about Renae's teaching interests and publications can be found on her UWA Staff Page and The Conversation Profile Page. Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons. Questions? Comments? E-mail the host, Jeremy Patrick, at jeremy.patrick@usq.edu.au
The Noosa Temple of Satan filed a lawsuit this year against the Queensland Department of Education over whether Satanism can be included in the state's public school. Today, I'm joined by solicitor Trevor Bell to talk about the controversy. The Noosa Temple of Satan has a Facebook page here. Trevor Bell is co-host of a podcast titled The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove, available here. This episode's recommended book: Truth is Trouble: The Strange Case of Israel Folau or How Free Speech Became So Complicated by Malcolm Knox. Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" by Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 via Wikimedia Commons Questions or Comments? E-mail me at jeremy.patrick@usq.edu.au
Did you know that in the Preamble to the Australian Constitution, the colonies are agreeing to federate while “humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God”? What exactly does that mean, and should it affect our understanding of the Constitution more generally? Dr Alex Deagon, a Senior Lecturer at QUT who has written on the issue, helps provide some answers. More about Dr Alex Deagon can be found on his QUT Staff Profile. You can read Alex's writings on the Preamble in the ICLRS Blog series on the topic and in his contribution to the Oxford Journal of Law and Religion. Questions or Comments? E-mail me at jeremy.patrick@usq.edu.au Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
The mainstream liberal understanding of religious liberty focuses on protecting individual autonomy and conscience. But in his new book, Dr Joel Harrison argues for an “ecclesiological” account of religious liberty that focuses on religious associations and orienting notions of the public good toward forming communities of fraternity, solidarity, and charity. This episode features an interview with the author about the present state, and a potential future, of religious liberty in the west. Correction: I accidentally gave my guest a promotion during my introduction, and although it's surely well-deserved, I apparently lack the authority to do so. Dr Harrison is currently a Senior Lecturer, not an Associate Professor. You can find more about Joel and his work on his University of Sydney Staff Page. More information about Post-Liberal Religious Liberty: Forming Communities of Charity can be found here on the Cambridge University Press website. The two podcasts I mentioned in my closing are St. John's Law School Center for Law and Religion's Legal Spirits and Emory University's Center for the Study of Law and Religion's Interactions. Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
"Williams I": Williams v Commonwealth of Australia, [2012] HCA 23 (available at: http://www6.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/cth/HCA/2012/23.html). "Williams II": Williams v Commonwealth of Australia, [2014] HCA 23 (available at: http://www6.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/cth/HCA/2014/23.html). Jeremy Patrick, 'Religion, Secularism, and the National School Chaplaincy and Student Welfare Program' (2014) 33(1) University of Queensland Law Journal 187-219 (available at: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2344599). Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
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