Rule 11 Podcast: College Football Officiating Conversations

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Tyler and Dwayne close out the Rule 11 podcast and remember some voices from the past.Thank you to our listeners, patrons, and guests. Support the show

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Arguably our most popular guest is back to do a deep dive into Fair Catch rules.  Big 12 FJ Matt Mills returns to break down the rules surrounding fair catches during free and scrimmage kicks.  Check out this conversation for a better understanding of fair catches.Mentioned on the ShowRef RepsGetItRighthttps://youtube.com/user/nickbrigatiQuote of the WeekIt's not the will to win that matter – everyone has that. It's the will to prepare to win that matters.” Paul Bear BryantFight Song - Air ForceSupport the show

Longtime Big 10 Back Judge, Robert Smith, joins us for an amazing conversation focused on Diversity, Equity and Inclusion.  Robert shares how a young man from Dallas, TX chose to play football at the University of Iowa.  He also talks about how that experience set the foundation for his work in the DEI space.Fight Song - IowaSupport the show

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Pac-12 Referee Steve Strimling joins us to review the 2022 New Rules and Editorial changes.  Steve provides interesting insights into the changes and gives a preview into some potential mechanics changes.Mentioned on the show:Greg Evers' BlogKara Lawson's SpeechFight Song - USCSupport the show

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The 2022 rule changes have made blocking below the waist easier to understand and officiate.  We discuss these changes and share some of our thoughts.Quote of the WeekDon't try to get everyone to like you.  You don't even like everybody. - AnonymousFight Song - Old wabashSupport the show

in the 110th conversation, Tyler and Dwayne revisit 10-second run off rules.  They cover fouls, injury, helmets and replay rules regarding 10 second runoff.Fight Song - Florida StateSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

In the first rules discussion of Season 5, Tyler and Dwayne cover Post Scrimmage Kick enforcement.   They discuss key concepts and provide play scenarios to help illustrate this often confusing set of rules.Quote of the WeekCriticism is a part of life. If you're not being criticized, you're probably not doing something of importance - Bobby WagnerFight Song - Kansas Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

Big Ten crewmates,  John O'Neill (Referee),  Tom Kissinger (Replay Official) and Matt Aloisio (Communicator) have been working together for 6+ seasons.   They join us today to give us a glimpse into the replay process and the communication that takes place.Quote of the WeekWorrying doesn't empty tomorrow of its sorrow, it empties today of its strength - Corrie Ten BoomFight Song - PittSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

It's camp season! Tyler and Dwayne discuss football camps.  They share their thoughts on how to choose and prepare for camps and how to best take advantage of the opportunity while attending.Quote of the Week“Ability is what you're capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it.” -Lou HoltzFight Song  KansasSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

SWAC coordinator of officials, Eddie Kelley joins us for this conversation.   He talks to us about the SWAC and its officiating program, including how he identifies officials for his staff.   Mr Kelley also discusses the A-Team Football Officials camp.Quote of the WeekSuccess doesn't come from what you do occasionally. It comes from what you do consistently - Marie ForleoMentioned on the Showhttps://ateamofficiating.com/ateam/Fight Song - FloridaSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

Pac-12 Side Judge Jeff Dahle joins us for this conversation. He shares some great tips for communicating with coaches. Jeff is a pilot and flight instructor and he provides some parallels between officiating and flying a plane. Additionally Jeff talks about video evaluations from the perspective of a grader.Mentioned on the showBehind the Flag (HS football training)Quote of the WeekMost of us spend too much time on what is urgent and not enough time on what is important - Stephen CoveyFight Song - IowaSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

Fight Song - Who else but the 2022 National Champions - University of Georgia  Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

Big 12 Referee Tuta Salaam joins us in this final conversation of Season 4.  He shares some great stories about his journey to the Big 12, including some mistakes along the way.   Tuta's passion for college football officiating is apparent.Quote of the Week“You can learn new things at any time in your life if you're willing to be a beginner. If you actually learn to like being a beginner, the whole world opens up to you.” – Barbara ShurFight Song's - Tennessee and LSUSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

Tyler and Dwayne review questions that we got incorrect from the 2021 CFO National Test.    We share our thought process and discuss why we got the questions wrong.Quote of the Week"If you want light to come into your life, you need to stand where it is shining" -UnknownFight Song - Notre DameSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

Brothers Dale & Ben Keller are D1 line of scrimmage officials, working in the Pac-12 and BigSky respectively. In this conversation, they join us to discuss the family's “other” business. We talk about how they both got started in officiating by helping their step-father, long time HS crew chief Carl Gertz, during games. We also get into their preparation and of course we get into some line of scrimmage discussion.Quote of the Week(Sent from listener)"The purpose of life is to find your gift.  The meaning of life is to give it away."  Tom Dalonzo-Baker, MPT  (another fellow Physical Therapist) Fight Song - MichiganSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

In this milestone episode, Tyree Walton (Big 12) and Jeff Hutcheon (Pac-12) takeover the podcast and turn the tables on Tyler and Dwayne.   The hosts become the guests.  Listen in as we look back on the first 99 episodes, take the Rule 11 challenge and share some anecdotes.Fight Song - AuburnSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

Guess who's back?  Big XII Field Judge Matt Mills joins us again to break down rules pertaining to Extra periods.    Quote of the Week"The greatest glory in living lies not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Nelson MandelaFight Song - Northern ArizonaSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

Officials come from all walks of life.  It is important that we respect everyone within our ranks.  Today we discuss inclusion with our guest, friend and fellow football official Cyd Zeigler.  Listen to Cyd's positive experiences within the officiating community; further evidence that we're all in this together.Cyd is co-founder of Outsports.com. He has contributed to the Huffington Post, Out magazine, Playboy and The Advocate and appeared on CNN, ESPN and in Sports Illustrated and the New York Times.Quote of the WeekSuccess is no accident. It is hard work, perseverance, learning, studying, sacrifice and most of all, love of what you are doing or learning to do. ~ Pele, Brazilian soccer playerFight Song - Auburn Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

Four contestants join us to take the Rule 11 Challenge.   Each contestant will work through a play scenario and attempt to come up with the correct results.  Its a great opportunity for all of us to review some confusing rules.  Thank you to our four contestants, Guilherme, Tremain, Kevin and Taylor, for being good sports.Quote of the Week- Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work. - AristotlePlay Scenarios from the show1.  A 4/9 @ 50, A9 punts, the kick bounces at the B-20 and hits A1 in the back of the leg at the B-16. B1 recovers the kick at the B-10 and runs to the B-30 where he fumbles. A2 scoops and scores following B1’s fumble.  Scenario A. B3 holds during the kick at the B-35 Scenario B. B3 blocks in the back at the B-24 during B1’s runScenario C. B3 holds during A2’s run at the B-202. A 4/8 @ 50, A6 punts, B1 signals for a fair catch at the B-15. B1 let’s the ball go over his head. As the ball is over B’s GL A1 bats the ball back into the field of play. B2 then picks up the ball at the B-4 and returns the ball to the B-16 where he is tackled. Scenario A. B1 blocks A2 @ the B-18 during the kickScenario B. A1 went OOB during the kick play to avoid B23. A 2/8 B-34. A7's pass is intercepted at the B-3 by B20. His original momentum carries him into his EZ. A80 tackles B20 in the EZ by grabbing and twisting his face mask. B20 stands up and spins the ball on the ground next to A80. Scenario B:  A80 grabs and twists B20's facemask causing him to fumble the ball into the field of play.  A55 recovers at the B-4 4. A Try B-3. A9 throws a pass that is intercepted in the end zone by B0.  B0 is about to be tackled in the endzone when he pitches the ball to B22 who is standing at the B-1.  B22 runs the ball across A's goal line. During the return, B55 blocks A66 below the waist at the 50 yard line.Scenario B: B55 commits an illegal blindside block against A66 at the 50 yd and then stands over him pounding his chest.  All of this action occurs with the ball carrier at the A-20.Fight Songs - Michigan, Illinois, Penn State, Ohio StateSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

There are various rules regarding touching of the football by a player.  Kick or pass, intentional or unintentional...and more.  It is crucial to understand the consequences of touching the football in these various situations.  Tyler and Dwayne review these rules in this conversation.Quote of the WeekSuccess consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm.- Winston ChurchillFight Song - IdahoSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

Big XII Side Judge Corey Luxner is our guest.  In this conversation, Corey shares with us one of the most difficult periods in his long career.  More importantly, he talks about how he overcame that adversity.   Tallie Luxner (Corey's wife) makes a cameo and shares a few thoughts from a spouse's perspective.   Corey also shares his unique pregame routines as well as how he continuously strives to be a good crewmate and make his referee look good.Quote of the WeekBecoming is better than being - Carole DweckFight Song - University of ColoradoSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

ACC Referee Stuart Mullins has returned to the podcast to help us with our next player in the Player Focus Series: The Passer.  As before we take a deep dive into this crucial position.  Stuart guides us through the definition of a passer, things the passer can and can't do, as well as fouls against the passer.   As a referee he provides a unique perspective and contrasts his point of view with other referees around the country.Quote of the Week“Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go.”— T.S. EliotRule11 Challenge QuestionA 4/10 @ A-45, A9’s punt bounces at the B-15 and B1 muffs it there. The kick continues downfield, B1 recovers the kick at the B-4 and his momentum takes him into the EZ. The ball is punched out of B1’s possession by A1 and the ball goes into the field of play and OOB at the B-6. During the kick a B player is flagged for holding at the 50. Fight Song - Colorado StateSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

In this conversation, we talk to recently retired Big XII Umpire Michael Cooper.  Michael shares wisdom from a long and successful officiating career, starting in 1994.  His career includes many bowl games as well as a national championship.Fight Song - NC StateSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

Tyler and Dwayne continue the Player Focus Series. This time we shine the spotlight on all things pertaining to the Kicker. We discuss what makes a player the kicker, when they become the kicker and when that designation terminates. We explain why you need to know when the kicker's designation end and the applicable rules. Join us for a deep dive into this specialized position. We also welcome another contestant for the Rule 11 challenge.Quote of the WeekAll of us want to be part of something bigger than ourselves, something that matters. - Daniel PinkFightFight Song - USCSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

In this conversation, we talk to Pac-12 Referee Michael Mothershed. He provides some great insights into his long career, including how key people have helped him at various stages. We discuss his experience in the 2016 BCS National Championship Game as well as his role on the 2017 Rules Committee. Michael shares his transition from deep side to crew chief and what crew cohesiveness means to him.Quote of the WeekThree bricklayers are asked: “What are you doing?” The first says, “I am laying bricks.” The second says, “I am building a church.” And the third says, “I am building the house of God.” The first bricklayer has a job. The second has a career. The third has a calling.”― Angela Duckworth, Grit: The Power of Passion and PerseveranceFight Song - San Diego Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

Tyler and Dwayne tackle their first rules discussion of Season 4; starting a series called Player Focus. In this conversation, we talk about rules regarding The Snapper. We define what makes a player the snapper and what they can and can't do. Additionally discuss why its important to not only define who the snapper is, but when a player becomes the snapper. Quote of the Week“Never let the things you want make you forget the things that you have” -UnknownMentioned on the ShowPlay Scenario A 3/10 B-32. A1 throws a pass that is intercepted in the back of the end zone by B22. As B22 is running around the trying to escape, B55 is flagged for holding at the B-14. B22 takes a knee in the endzone. B 1/10 B-7 SNAP PC :25 The result of the play is a TB. The intercepting team fouls after the change of Team possession. The basic spot is the succeeding spot (B-20). The Team in possession fouls behind the basic spot so we will enforce from the spot of the foul half the distance. [8.6.1, 9.3.3.b, 10.2.2.d.2.a]Conversation 38: Basic Spot Focus - 10.2.2.d.2 and 8.5.1 exceptionhttps://www.rule11officials.com/podcast/episode/32729054/conversation-38-basic-spot-focus-1022d2-and-851-exceptionConversation 56: Practice Tips and Numbering Exceptionshttps://www.rule11officials.com/podcast/episode/4677697c/conversation-56-practice-tips-and-numbering-exceptionsFight Song - Wisconsin Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

Pure Officiating (https://www.pureofficiating.com/) has quickly become one of the top training resources for college football officials. Big XII Referees Brandon Cruse and Tuta Salaam, Big XII Back Judge Daniel Young and Big XII Side Judge Corey Luxner are the architects. We introduce Tuta and Corey as first time guests.All four guys discuss how Pure Officiating came about from their love of football officiating. Quote of the Week"In every day there are 1440 minutes, therefore we have 1440 opportunities to make a positive impact"Fight Song - HawaiiSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

Tyler and Dwayne kickoff Season 4 of the Rule 11 Podcast. We take a look at the upcoming spring season and discuss some of its potential benefits. We reflect on some of the positive things we observed in a challenging 2020. Quote of the Week “Our fears are more numerous than our dangers, and we suffer more in our imagination than reality” - Seneca, Roman philosopherFight Song - Portland StateSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

ESPN's Ryan McGee joins us to discuss his latest book: "Sidelines and Bloodlines, A Father, His Sons and Our Life in College Football". Ryan's father is longtime ACC official Dr. Jerry McGee. Ryan joins us to discuss the book and shares a few stories.Quote of the WeekYou don't have to be great to start, but you have to start to be great - Zig ZiglarMentioned on the ShowSidelines and Bloodlines BookFight Song - South CarolinaSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

In our final conversation of Season 3, CFO National Coordinators of Officials and NCAA Football Secretary-Rules Editor, Steve Shaw, joins us. We cover a the following topics and more.Career overviewDuties of Secretary-Rules Editor and National Coordinator of OfficialsOverview of CFO and CCA2020 challenges New rules process 3 conflicting play scenariosQuote of the WeekThe greatest of all weakness is the fear of appearing weak - J.B. BossuetFight Song - Old WabashSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

The California Community College athletic program is unlike anything else in the country. Rich Kollen, SCCFOA Director of Football Operations joins us to talk about this large organization and how they have been so successful producing quality officials. Listen in and learn about this unique program.Quote of the WeekIf you have courage to begin, you have courage to succeed - David ViscoffMentioned on the ShowSCCFOAThe UnOfficial Lounge PodcastFight Song - UC DavisSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

Did you know that American Football is played all over the world? IFAF Europe Coordinator of Officials Frank Kristensen talks to us about the organization that governs international play, International Federation of American Football and how American football is officiated and played around the world.Quote of the Week “What you get by achieving your goals is not as important as what you become by achieving your goals.” - Henry David Thoreau Mentioned on the ShowFrank Kristensen's YouTube ChannelFight Song - Minnesota Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

ACC Referee Stuart Mullins joins us for our 83rd conversation. He talks to us about various clock issues that we may encounter during the course of a game. Stuart discusses how to prevent clock issues from occurring. He provides some thoughts on how to correct them when they happen. We also touch on the importance of mentorship and giving back.Quote of the WeekEverything gets harder if you start going on and on about how hard it is - Steven CoveyMentioned on the ShowClock Issues VideoFight Song - Mississippi StateSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

Beginning this year, the CFO is allowing a 7-person mechanics experiment, with the umpire in the offensive backfield. On today's episode, we have 3 officials from the BigSky conference who have worked these mechanics the past two years. Referee Kelly Holman, Umpire John Schindler and Back Judge Chris Storey join us to give us their thoughts on working this mechanic Quote of the Week“Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes.” Oscar Wilde Fight Song - DukeSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

Tyler and Dwayne go through the list of 2020 Editorial Changes, We review each editorial change and offer explanations and examples to hopefully clarify these new set of changes.Quote of the WeekAny man who reads too much and uses his own brain too little falls into lazy habits of thinking. —Albert EinsteinFight Song - "Old Wabash"Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

In this conversation we are discussing how our mindset can play a big role in officiating (and in our lives). Big XII officials, Daniel Young [BJ] and Brandon Cruse [R], are our guests. They describe the two mindsets and provide examples of how they manifest themselves in football officiating. Quote of the WeekWhy waste time proving over and over how great you are, when you could be getting better Carol S Dweck Mentioned on the ShowMindset: The New Psychology of Success Carol S. DweckMindset Presentation (Daniel Young)Rob Richeson GoFundMe PageFight Song - PurdueSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)

In this conversation, Tyler and Dwayne discuss running play segments; the related run and the last run in particular. We cover how to determine the basic spot, based on when the foul occurred. Additionally we cover the special case when we enforce the penalty from the end of the last run.Fight Song - Notre DameQuote of the WeekI don’t think of all the misery, but of the beauty that still remains. -Anne FrankMentioned on the ShowChecklist for End of Last Run EnforcementWas there a Team B Personal Foul? Did the foul occur during a completed legal forward pass play? Did the play end beyond the neutral zone? No change of team possession during the down? If all of the above are true, we will enforce from the end of the last run If not we'll revert back to basic spot enforcement on a pass play. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/rule11)