DOOMER V. BLOOMER

As you may have been able to guess by the long, unannounced hiatus, this project has reached its conclusion. It is no more. Here is one last DvB episode for you to listen to and enjoy. But worry not, this is not the last you've heard from Kami and Franz. Listen in to find out what we'll each be doing next and where to find our future projects.

Check out one of the latest podcasts to join to the Channel Zero Network: You Don't Need Permission! Franz also appears on a couple episodes in season one, so look for those as well :) - Why is there a need for revolutionary change? Can't capitalism simply be reined in by governments? Turns out the answer is no, actually. Joshua talks with Franz of the podcast Doomer V Bloomer about why reform is impossible and revolution is the only way. - - For a more in-depth analysis on how business interests manipulate public policy, check out Srsly Wrong's episode Business Confidence and Capital Strikes: https://srslywrong.com/podcast/231-business-confidence-capital-strikes-w-michael-schwartz-and-kevin-a-young/ - - You Don't Need Permission is now proud to be a member of the Channel Zero Podcast Network. https://channelzeronetwork.com/ - - Theme music is "You Can (Mass Trespass 1932)" by Chumbawamba, used (ironically) with permission.

In this episode we talk about (okay, mostly complain about) the anti-civilization and anti-utopian pamphlet: Desert by Anonymous. Is this a doomer text, or can both bloomer and doomer agree that it goes too far? We tried to be fair with our critiques but sectarianism got the better of us and we engage in some shit talking, please forgive us. References: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-desert https://organisemagazine.org.uk/2019/10/03/desert-review/ https://anarchistnews.org/content/critique-desert https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00177-3 https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/murray-bookchin-the-population-myth https://www.iias.asia/sites/default/files/nwl_article/2019-05/IIAS_NL49_1213.pdf https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300182910/against-grain https://salvage.zone/mieville_all.html Links: facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune twitter.com/doomervbloomer https://discord.gg/EGkyzpt patreon.com/doomervbloomer doomervbloomer@gmail.com channelzeronetwork.com

Your doomer and bloomer hosts are joined by Aly, one of our frequent correspondents, to discuss populism, the far right and the role neoliberal hegemony plays in enabling fascism. The discussion is heavily focused around the book Reactionary Democracy by Aurelien Mondon & Aaron Winter. References: reactionarydemocracy.com www.versobooks.com/books/3173-reactionary-democracy https://soundcloud.com/12rulesforwhat https://youtu.be/KYG7-d_Q9zU Links: facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune twitter.com/doomervbloomer https://discord.gg/EGkyzpt patreon.com/doomervbloomer doomervbloomer@gmail.com channelzeronetwork.com

What's the deal with empathy? Can empathy be used as a force for good or is it too affected by our negative biases? What are empaths and why are they so self important? References: Against Empathy by Paul Bloom https://direct.mit.edu/jocn/article/22/5/985/4845/The-Blame-Game-The-Effect-of-Responsibility-and The Empath's Survival Guide: Life Strategies for Sensitive People by Judith Orloff https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-the-womens-war-59464911/ Links: facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune twitter.com/doomervbloomer https://discord.gg/EGkyzpt patreon.com/doomervbloomer doomervbloomer@gmail.com channelzeronetwork.com

This is a main plot episode, not a filler episode, folks. Franz and Kami talk about dystopia and utopia as genres and lenses for understanding the world and how these concepts intersect with doom and bloom. Part two in our informal series on science fiction. References: https://communemag.com/dystopias-now/ https://salvage.zone/mieville_all.html https://soundcloud.com/doomervbloomer/38-space-exploration https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326693897_Recycled_Dystopias_Cyberpunk_and_the_End_of_History https://www.versobooks.com/books/2250-utopia https://library.uniteddiversity.coop/More_Books_and_Reports/Open_Veins_of_Latin_America.pdf https://www.patreon.com/posts/39580462 Links: facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune twitter.com/doomervbloomer https://discord.gg/EGkyzpt patreon.com/doomervbloomer doomervbloomer@gmail.com channelzeronetwork.com

It may be an old meme already by the time you're hearing this, but Kami and Franz will give you the doomer and bloomer perspectives on the Game Stop short squeeze so far. facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune twitter.com/doomervbloomer https://discord.gg/EGkyzpt patreon.com/doomervbloomer doomervbloomer@gmail.com channelzeronetwork.com

As our own little form of escapism from the current political turmoil, we explore the question: should outer space be abolished? We discuss sci-fi, space travel and technology. Kami comes out as a bloomer and Franz comes out as a luddite. - https://thenewinquiry.com/manifesto-of-the-committee-to-abolish-outer-space/ https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/07/business/rocket-lab-debris-launch-traffic-scn/index.html https://soundcloud.com/doomervbloomer/21-ishmael-the-anti-civ-gorilla-w-aly https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/episode-110-the-shiny-object-psychology-of-american-capitalist-innovation https://www.bbc.com/news/business-34324772 [VW emissions test scandal] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y&ab_channel=DeepMind - facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune twitter.com/doomervbloomer https://discord.gg/EGkyzpt patreon.com/doomervbloomer doomervbloomer@gmail.com channelzeronetwork.com

We recorded this the weekend before protests started in Kenosha, and now its feels silly to be releasing an episode about the election but here it is. We chat about our predictions for the election, election fraud, contested elections, QAnon, etc. - Delivering for America Act: https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/8015/ 
Trump support in the military: https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/12/17/half-of-active-duty-service-members-are-unhappy-with-trump-new-military-times-poll-shows/ - - facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune twitter.com/doomervbloomer patreon.com/doomervbloomer doomervbloomer@gmail.com channelzeronetwork.com

A discussion of Joe Rogan's podcast, his "centrist" ideology, how rhetorical strategies falsely present his ideas as neutral, what the guests he decides to platform say about his own politics, and the role he plays in the The Discourse. - Abigail Shrier the transphobe: https://www.menshealth.com/entertainment/a33391944/joe-rogan-abigail-shrier-interview-transphobia/ JRE goes Spotify exclusive: https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/joe-rogan-signs-exclusive-100-million-podcast-deal-with-spotify/ar-BB14jDHC Candace Owens is trash: https://heavy.com/news/2020/06/candace-owens-geo Legalize gay weed: https://www.quora.com/What-does-legalize-gay-weed-mean?share=1 DvB ep about Andy Ngo: https://www.patreon.com/posts/39580265 Andy Ngo is a threat to our community and provides kill lists for Atomwaffen: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/alt-right-antifa-death-threats-doxxing-quillette-a8966176.html - facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune twitter.com/doomervbloomer patreon.com/doomervbloomer doomervbloomer@gmail.com channelzeronetwork.com

We probably all known someone who’s spent a little too much time being an edge lord online, hell, I’ve been there. Kami and Franz are joined by special guest and edge lord Kendall to talk about this phenomenon. Come learn about the specific memes and online personas that love to hate and hate to love and what we think that says about the left. - Follow Kendall @Mobius_Strike on Instagram and Twitter - facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune twitter.com/doomervbloomer patreon.com/doomervbloomer doomervbloomer@gmail.com channelzeronetwork.com

Roles are reversed in this weeks one year anniversary episode of Doomer v. Bloomer. Franz is feeling the doom and Kami is experiencing some bloom, how will our podcast cope? We talk burnout, collapse, hope and nihilism and video games. - Previous burnout episode: https://soundcloud.com/doomervbloomer/14-doom-and-burnout Referenced doomer article: https://eand.co/if-life-feels-bleak-its-because-our-civilization-is-beginning-to-collapse-a787d62d714b Scott Crow & Hurricane Katrina: https://b-ok.cc/book/2334898/da3153 Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution: https://libcom.org/library/mutual-aid-peter-kropotkin Eduardo Galeano: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/187149.Open_Veins_of_Latin_America Stronger (by Kelly Clarkson, not Adele or Britney): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn676-fLq7I Sound effects: https://freesound.org/people/Foreman_Griller/sounds/394839/ - facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune twitter.com/doomervbloomer patreon.com/doomervbloomer doomervbloomer@gmail.com channelzeronetwork.com

We took some time to research the ways the state has used grand juries and other legal tactics to suppress anti-authoritarian and liberation uprisings in recent history. Hopefully some of this information can be helpful to people preparing for the backlash to the current movement for Black liberation and against police. --- SHOW NOTES: follow [unicornriot.ninja](https://unicornriot.ninja/) and itsgoingdown.org for current news and livestreams Places to throw your money at: [https://minnesotafreedomfund.org/](https://minnesotafreedomfund.org/) [https://www.northstarhealthcollective.org/donate](https://www.northstarhealthcollective.org/donate) [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yLWGTQIe3967hdc9RSxBq5s6KKZHe-3_mWp5oemd7OA/edit](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yLWGTQIe3967hdc9RSxBq5s6KKZHe-3_mWp5oemd7OA/edit) Grand Juries: [http://grandjuryresistance.org/files/Grand_Jury_Brochure.pdf](http://grandjuryresistance.org/files/Grand_Jury_Brochure.pdf) [https://cldc.org/grand-juries/](https://cldc.org/grand-juries/) [https://www.indybay.org/uploads/2008/10/03/grandjuries-infosheet.pdf](https://www.indybay.org/uploads/2008/10/03/grandjuries-infosheet.pdf) Ferguson: [https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ferguson-protesters-st-louis-county-municipal-court_n_574855bfe4b055bb1171e652](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ferguson-protesters-st-louis-county-municipal-court_n_574855bfe4b055bb1171e652) How to blur faces: [https://thenextweb.com/basics/2020/06/04/how-to-blur-faces-and-remove-metadata-from](https://thenextweb.com/basics/2020/06/04/how-to-blur-faces-and-remove-metadata-from) Standing Rock: [https://waterprotectorlegal.org/](https://waterprotectorlegal.org/) [http://antirepressioncrew.org/](http://antirepressioncrew.org/) J20: [https://crimethinc.com/2019/01/30/weve-got-your-back-the-story-of-the-j20-defense-an-epic-tale-of-repression-and-solidarity](https://crimethinc.com/2019/01/30/weve-got-your-back-the-story-of-the-j20-defense-an-epic-tale-of-repression-and-solidarity) Community defense: [https://itsgoingdown.org/anti-racist-neighborhood-watch-manual-resource-toolkit/](https://itsgoingdown.org/anti-racist-neighborhood-watch-manual-resource-toolkit/) --- OUR LINKS: facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune twitter.com/doomervbloomer patreon.com/doomervbloomer doomervbloomer@gmail.com channelzeronetwork.com/

Transcript: As protests heat up, the Channel Zero Network has some reminders on how to stay safe while out in the streets. Bring buddies and don't let them out of the range of your voice. Write a legal aid number on your body so you can get help if you get arrested. Be sure to know your buddies legal names and birthdays. You'll need these to help find them if they're arrested. When moving around, walk don't run. Stick together. Turn off your phone while out in the street to avoid surveillance of your location and so as not to have your unlocked phone taken by the authorities or other bad actors. Try your best not to stick out in a crowd. Cover up tattoos with clothing or body paint. Cops will use footage from the protest to try to identify you. Wear clothes that are good for moving quickly. Avoid wearing jewelry and wear closed toe shoes. Wear your mask at all times, even if you're talking to someone in order to guard yourself against surveillance, covid 19, pepper spray, and tear gas. Avoid wearing contact lenses. Bring goggles of some kind in case of tear gas or pepper spray. Consider wearing bike helmets as police often cause head injuries with batons and other weapons. Don't take photos or video of people doing anything illegal or with their face uncovered. Whenever possible, film the cops, not the protesters. ONLY PUT WATER IN YOUR EYES. Don't use milk or baking soda or anything else.Clean water is the safest thing to use at a protest. If possible, bring a water bottle to drink from and a water bottle to flush out eyes of any comrades who are maced or tear-gassed. And white comrades are encouraged to follow the lead of black and brown comrades, as they bear the brunt of state brutality. Follow Unicorn Riot and Channel Zero Network member It's Going Down for ongoing updates. The Channel Zero Network sends y'all solidarity. Stay safe out there and never stop fighting for a better world.

Revolutions are hard, let's figure out why. -- facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune twitter.com/doomervbloomer patreon.com/doomervbloomer doomervbloomer@gmail.com channelzeronetwork.com

A straight man and a lesbian tell you how they feel about masculinity -- facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune twitter.com/doomervbloomer patreon.com/doomervbloomer doomervbloomer@gmail.com channelzeronetwork.com

This week's episode is a special collaboration with fellow Channel Zero Network show Coffee with Comrades. We discuss what mourning can look like in the wake of a global pandemic, impending economic collapse, and climate change, how we're responding to these circumstances, and how the present moment can either lull us into complacency or catapult us into drastic social change. --- We had a blast recording with Pearson from Coffee with Comrades, and if you don't already listen check it out! http://coffeewithcomrades.com/ --- facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune twitter.com/doomervbloomer patreon.com/doomervbloomer doomervbloomer@gmail.com channelzeronetwork.com

This week Franz and Kami are joined by Zoe Cohen of NISEI, a fan-run organization responsible for keeping Android: Netrunner alive. Netrunner is a card game set in a dystopian future where megacorporations control almost every aspect of daily life. Sound familiar? We'll talk about Netrunner the game, non commercial game development, what science fiction and cyberpunk can tell us about the present, and gaming communities. --- NISEI official: http://nisei.net/ How to play video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dtvARFeCvw How to play book: https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/android-netrunner/support/android-netrunner-core-rules.pdf Play online: http://jinteki.net/ --- facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast/ facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune/ twitter.com/doomervbloomer patreon.com/doomervbloomer channelzeronetwork.com/

Welcome to another episode of Doomer v. Bloomer, "Franz explains shit to Kami and audience" edition. This week the topic is economic collapse, the death of neoliberalism and how the economy works 101. Everything you never wanted to know about monetary economics and fiscal policy and how it relates to a global pandemic. - Some sources: [https://urpe.org/2020/04/02/covid-19-crisis-has-exposed-absurdities-of-neoliberalism-that-doesnt-mean-itll-destroy-it/] [http://new-compass.net/articles/return-capitalisms-contradictions] [https://urpe.org/2020/04/03/the-need-for-class-race-and-gender-sensitive-policies-to-fight-the-covid-19-crisis/] [https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/03/technology/coronavirus-masks-shortage.html] [https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/business/economy/coronavirus-recession.html?smid=fb-share&fbclid=IwAR0_wW5lg1XocE_OrfwPjdYiCVGr2umTuJrOpJxsjr_kZo2Oz5c5M4oqUNE] - Support us on Patreon to hear the bonus episode patreon.com/doomervbloomer - facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast/ facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune/ twitter.com/doomervbloomer patreon.com/doomervbloomer https://channelzeronetwork.com/

I mean, what the **** else are we gonna do?

Franz and Kami talk about how expensive it is to be poor. - facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast/ FB group: www.facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune/ twitter.com/doomervbloomer patreon.com/doomervbloomer

Well, Bernie won the Nevada primary and might just make it all the way to the general. What does it mean for anarchist organizing if he wins? What if he loses? Why do anarchists even care about electoral politics? Should we not? - facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast/ FB group: www.facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune/ twitter.com/doomervbloomer patreon.com/doomervbloomer

Your hosts Kami and Franz are joined this week by Shawn of Srsly Wrong and Hugh and Nicole of Ad Astra Comix to discuss which tactics and strategies social movements can use to best achieve universal human liberation. - facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast/ FB group: www.facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune/ twitter.com/doomervbloomer patreon.com/doomervbloomer

From performative violence to performative allyship, politics done only for the sake of clout is something we see way too often on the left. Meemz joins us to discuss how we've seen it play out, the ways in which it's harmful and how we avoid its pitfalls. facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast/ FB group: www.facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune/ twitter.com/doomervbloomer patreon.com/doomervbloomer

We set out to talk about something completely different this episode but got sidetracked and talked about shrooms the whole time instead. Kami gets a little woo woo about it and Franz has to suppress their past self's new atheist tendencies. facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast/ FB group: www.facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune/ twitter.com/doomervbloomer patreon.com/doomervbloomer

Aly and Franz explain the bizarre book that is Ishmael to Kami. Maybe you read it in high school, maybe you didn't, but some anti-civ kids recommended it to us and we read it so you don't have to. FB page: www.facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast/ FB group: www.facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune/ Twitter: twitter.com/doomervbloomer Patreon: www.patreon.com/doomervbloomer DM us for our Discord chat link as well!

It is a period of civil war. The anti-SJW forces strike from their hidden Twitter base, forcing the Doomer V Bloomer Online Empire to put down the rebellion with overwhelming force. As the anti-SJW fire their soyguns and estrogen-cannons at the approaching onslaught, the cucked SJW forces of DVB march ever onward, unyielding and unceasing. Pursued by the Empire’s sinister agents, Prince's Jon Win and Bill Ete race home aboard their podship, custodian of the stolen plans that can save their people from the mass cucking at the hands of the SJW forces and bring about the Resurrection of Good Ideas to the galaxy…. FB page: https://www.facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast/ FB group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/doomervbloomer Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/doomervbloomer DM us for our Discord chat link as well! The anti-SJW rebel scum: https://www.buzzsprout.com/301751

Kami and Franz talk about restorative justice, conflict resolution and accountability. What do these things mean, how do they work in Rojava, what does it look like when done right and how bad can it turn out when we try to put our ideals into practice unsuccessfully? Oh, and Trump was impeaches. Cheers to that.

Kami can't get his shit together and stop drinking. Franz enacts a one-on-one intervention in an attempt to save his body - and maybe even his soul.

Need an excuse to avoid your family on Thanksgiving (or any time?) Tune in the this second installment of our PNW Folk Heroes series. We take on two more interesting or important figures from history and see if they meet our folk hero standards. Listen till the end to hear our pointless banter. facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast/ twitter.com/DoomervBloomer patreon.com/doomervbloomer

On this week's episode, we talk to PDX based activists Adam & Tim about abolitionism (police, prison, etc.), its goals and P R A X I S, and what roles music and art play within those struggles.

On this weeks episode, we have the lovely, yet sad af Paige on to talk about climate crisis/pessimism, its affect on mental health, and how anarchism can give us hope in an otherwise dark and scary world. We also talk about doing whippits.

Franz discovered GTA V and is now depressed. Following her intense Halloween method performance as JOKER, the pod is now in dire straits. Without the vital bloomer energy to keep the Doom in check, there can be no balance in the Podesphere. It is now up to Kami to save Franz from the same fate that once claimed him, and save the pod from being completely consumed by the forces of Doom. We also talk about early 00's emo/scene.

Spoopy season is upon us. The sun's light is pale and distant, and the nights grow longer and colder. The hippie vampires are among us, hidden in plain view; eating kale and putting runic trinkets in their foul dreads. Their tumblrs fill up with "artful" interpretations of swastikas, and they make fast allies with nazi and white liberal alike. They shroud themselves in thick cloaks of ambiguity, half-truths and half-meanings. They speak of ancestral blood magick, the earth, and how only "they" can heal it. Their runes invoke Odin, the Black Sun, and they pray to their perverted pagan idols to give them the power to "deliver" this world from degeneracy - to make it "pure" again. These are the crypto-fascists. They stand among us, at metal shows, wearing symbols and runes on their denim jackets that look like writhing masses of swastikas, trying to explain the Buddhist origin of the swastika, always claiming to be exactly the opposite of what they really are: Nazi. Scum. On this, our 13th episode, professors/professional vampire hunters Diego and RRRR discuss this foul scourge that has befall the land, it's origins, and give a first hand account of our frightening encounter as we attempted to disrupt a meeting of their crypto-fascist coven. Stay safe out there this season. Links: https://pugetsoundanarchists.org/a-field-guide-to-straw-men-sadie-and-exile-esoteric-fascism-and-olympias-little-white-lies/ (the zine mentioned in the episode hasn't dropped yet, but here's another older analysis that talks about the same issues): https://itsgoingdown.org/countering-fascist-black-metal-bullshit-in-olympia/ Twitter: twitter.com/DoomervBloomer Facebook: facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast/ facebook.com/groups/doomervbloomercommune Also check us out on iTunes!

What is security culture and why is it important? How can you protect your data an other sensitive information? How can we be both secure and welcoming to people trying to get involved? What are you probably doing wrong? For the discussion of these questions and more, tune in to this episode of Doomer v. Bloomer with special guest and comrade, Pine. For in introduction to security culture and a guide for staying safe, check out Sprout Distro's zine: https://www.sproutdistro.com/catalog/zines/security/what-is-security-culture-a-guide-to-staying-safe/ --- Twitter: twitter.com/DoomervBloomer Facebook: facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast/

It’s time for another round of “Franz explains theory to Kami”. Social reproduction theory is framework of analysis that looks at labor that is done outside the traditional work place, such as household labor, child raising and caregiving. Broadening our understanding of the economy from just the “productive” sphere to also include the “reproductive” sphere helps to highlight women’s historical role as laboring subjects under capitalism. Social reproduction theory can and should also inform what a post-capitalist society should look like and how we can get there. Twitter: @DoomerVBloomer Facebook: facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast

Is it just me, or is it getting crazier out there? Well, how about a joke to lighten the mood. What do you get when you cross a Doomer and a Bloomer with the #1 incel movie of the year? You get dank political analysis of what turned out to actually be a really good movie about inequality and alienation under neoliberal capitalism ¯_(ツ)_/¯ We braved our lives to go to Joker on opening night to bring you this fresh content. Twitter: @DoomerVBloomer Facebook: facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast

In this week's episode, Franz and Kami discuss a few famous Pacific Northwest folk heroes and also what it does it mean to be a folk hero. What is and folk hero? Are we folk heroes? Are you? It doesn't matter if HTML is not supported, I REFUSE to only use plain text because I am a hero of the folk. subscribe to our paetron

When two comrades are sent to support what they think to be an indigenous land defense, the unthinkable happens. Staff, dreads, stray dogs, lice, quartz, dirty feet, unyielding senses of entitlement: these are but a few of the many horrors that befell our unfortunate guests, Diego and Vieve, who, having somehow survived the wook onslaught, are here to share their haunting tale with the rest of the world - lest anyone make the same deadly mistakes they made. Stay tuned! twitter.com/doomervBloomer facebook.com/doomervbloomerpodcast subscribe to our patreon Intro music: Hell Malo by Lee Van Cleef

Kami complains about his back. Franz whitesplains Hong Kong, its history and the factors leading up to the current protests happening at present (because the CIA told us to). Then its story time from Kami as he finally reveals how he ended up the insufferable doomer anarchist he is now. subscribe to our paetron so we can quit our jobs