It's a Process

For the season 2 premiere of It's a Process, I talk to artist Whitney Hubbs! We talk about the release of her new book Say So, her 2020 solo show Animal, Hole, Selfie, and her performative process. We also talk about influences, working with vulnerability, relationships to the audience and vanity, having fun in the studio, Polanski's Bitter Moon, sorting and editing, the intimacy of making a book, the transformations of midlife, grappling with mortality, sexuality, and failure, having a trusted support system of friends, thinking about death, new work, the role of the studio, letting things happen, making autobiographical work, and growing up in LA in the presence of Hollywood.http://www.whitneyhubbs.com/https://www.situations.us/whitney-hubbsSay So book: https://shop.selfpublishbehappy.com/products/say-so-by-whitney-hubbshttps://bombmagazine.org/articles/character-studies-whitney-hubbs-interviewed/

Zuriel Waters is a painter who lives and works in Brooklyn, NY. We talk about his current solo show Bug City at Left Field Gallery in Los Osos, CA. We also talk about going from all face to all feelers, jazz as a metaphor, figures without a ground, painting as problem solving, giving himself a deadline, escaping narrative, creating a progression, playing the saxophone, sewing paintings, from the practical to the aesthetic, learning to love Murray and Mondrian, holding yourself accountable, painting for mistakes, choosing colors that are inevitable, doodling as a starting point, utopia as an end game, and making things that you can live with.http://www.leftfieldgallery.com/bug-city-zuriel-watershttp://zurielwaters.com/index.htmlhttps://www.maakemagazine.com/zuriel-waters

Susumu Kamijo is a painter who lives and works in Brooklyn, NY. He currently has a solo show on view in Tokyo, Japan at Maki Gallery titled Beyond The Hills, and is also in a group show at Venus over Manhattan in NYC. We discuss his moving to the US at age 16, why talking to writers is better than painters, how poodles entered the work and how they have changed, mixing opposites, the poodle as an entranceway to his world, the intensity of De Kooning, feeling like your work is dorky, the absurdity of choosing to paint poodles, feeling the capacity to encompass the fucked up part of you, performing comedy in the past as a challenge, painting as an expression of the subconscious, letting unexpected things happen, finding joy in the studio, using meditation but trying not to be cringe about it, the earlier years, the importance of friends in his development, having faith that he would be able to make it as an artist, finding inspiration in other peoples death, his mentor relationship with Denzil Hurley, and a story about Susumu's MFA experience.Susumu Kamijo - Beyond The Hills, Maki Galleryhttps://www.makigallery.com/exhibitions_en/4910/https://www.jackhanley.com/artists/susumu-kamijoAkira Kurosawa - Dreamshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcXk_PLrHp8In Memoriam – Denzil Hurleyhttps://art.washington.edu/news/2021/07/01/memoriam-denzil-hurley

Clinton King is a painter living and working in Brooklyn, NY. We talk about his recent solo show Free Radical at Allouche Benias Gallery in Greece, and a residency at Fores Project in London over a bottle of rosé. Other topics include Jungian analysis, alchemy, working with shadow, introversion vs extroversion, abstraction as a universal and a way to communicate the unknowable, having breakthroughs, Clinton's hypnotic meme video, connection and response, art as a living thing, dreaming of the new work, the vastness of the unconscious, putting obstacles in your own way, aging, death, and chain reactions, the balance of opposites, making an art out of transitions, working with liminal space, live tarot card readings!!, and why Stanley Kubrick's 2001 is the best movie of all time.https://www.clintonkingart.com/https://allouchebenias.com/exhibitions/free-radicalhttp://www.foresproject.org/https://news.artnet.com/art-world/julie-curtiss-clinton-king-1788015Cymaticshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmsfuj1Rk9cJudd / Marfahttps://chinati.org/Fred Sandbackhttps://www.fredsandbackarchive.org/John Dee's spirit mirrorhttps://www.bl.uk/collection-items/john-dees-spirit-mirror#Donald Duck in Mathmagic Landhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BqnN72OlqAKubrick's 2001 and the meaning of the monolithhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSo6s_xrj4c

Cheryl Donegan is an artist who lives and works in NYC. We talk about work/life balance, taking it to the next level, the pain of transitions, the relationship between painting and video, the ongoing influence of indirect methods of childhood picture making, mediated and temporary, finding your native experiences and attractions, asking questions about painting through video, Alice Neel and morbidity, how does painting let the digital into it's body, intervening on the ready made, Home Depot materials, the desire for control vs letting go, being an artist's artist, indulging in formative memories, starting from scratch and moving towards beauty, what people do when they get over themselves, art and aging, Yoko Ono, Gena Rowlands, being too much, Raster Stars, Bresson's Mouchette as the original punk, little book of martyrs, tracksuits, junkspace and irrational geometry, colorforms, step by step breakdown of her recent painting process, Cezanne and Zola, how painting seduces the digital, artists books as a way of thinking through motifs, and learning to paint with emotions.https://cheryldonegan.com/https://www.newmuseum.org/exhibitions/view/cheryl-donegan-scenes-commercialshttps://www.aspenartmuseum.org/exhibitions/141-cheryl-donegan-grlz-veilshttps://camh.org/event/cheryl-donegan/https://davidsheltongallery.com/artists/detail/cheryl_doneganMatthew Chambers - MONTANA WILDFLOWERS I IMAGINE I'LL SEE IN THE SPRINGhttps://www.praz-delavallade.com/exhibition/matthew-chambers-2017Imi Knoebelhttps://ropac.net/artists/52-imi-knoebel/Yoko Ono - Cut Piecehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYJ3dPwa2tICassavetes / Gena Rowlands - A Woman Under the Influencehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUNRbcVCqt0&t=1sCassavete / Gena Rowlands - Opening Nighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMMjcxilG8w&t=5sRem Koolhaas - Junkspacehttps://www.readingdesign.org/junkspaceCheryl Donegan - EAI video workshttps://www.eai.org/artists/cheryl-donegan/titlesJackie Saccoccio, obituaryhttps://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/jackie-saccoccio-dead-abstractions-1234578300/

Amanda Friedman is an artist living in Brooklyn, NY. We met for the first in person interview at her studio and talked about current and recent work, and her solo show Everyday Drawings and Pyramids at Grifter. We also talk about her studio check in forms, “tending the garden”, everyday drawings, the slippage of mark making, going towards color and beauty, making plays (which are also paintings), Helen Rides and beat poet Helen Adams, the last live performance of her play, witchy women and desire, singing, make your own art world as a way to avoid cynicism, working for the Rosemary Mayer estate, cult figures and counter culture, how different kinds of work and found objects leads into other work, light castles and bones, transformation, ceramics, glove paintings, making things that hold themselves, art as a mirror, figuring out what the art is, Paul Thek, Andrei Rublev, using rules as an anchor point, Leonora Carrington, and paintings as keepers of secrets.https://amandabfriedman.com/https://g-rift-er.com/The Kenning Anthology of Poets Theaterhttps://www.kenningeditions.com/shop/the-kenning-anthology-of-poets-theater-1945-1985/Helen Adam readings/recordingshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BC9rsdSdlw&t=4shttps://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Adam.phpCurrent Rosemary Mayer exhibition http://www.gordonrobichaux.com/rosemary-mayer.htmlA Great Wagon - Rumihttps://onbeing.org/poetry/a-great-wagon/Amanda’s uncle, Kinky Friedman:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinky_FriedmanLeigh Ruplehttp://www.leighruple.com/Peter Doighttps://www.michaelwerner.com/exhibitions/peter-doig2/selected-works?view=sliderPaul Thekhttps://www.frieze.com/article/paul-thek-2Andrei Rublevhttps://www.criterion.com/films/300-andrei-rublevLeonora Carrington article/show https://www.artforum.com/print/202104/chloe-wyma-on-the-tarot-of-leonora-carrington-85247 https://www.gallerywendinorris.com/exhibitions-collection/leonora-carrington-the-story-of-the-last-egg

Paul Mpagi Sepuya is an artist who makes photographs. He lives and works in Los Angeles, CA. We spoke about his solo show Stage at Document in Chicago, which is on view through May 29, 2021. We also spoke about the studio as a stage, creating the conditions for a photo, using play and pleasure but not getting stuck in it, finding ways to complicate portraiture, the breakthrough of using a mirror, the process of collaborating with friends, photography and desire, art and eroticism, relationships between the image and the viewer, and Fassbinder.https://documentspace.com/exhibition/paul-mpagi-sepuya/https://www.paulsepuya.com/https://www.guggenheim.org/artwork/artist/paul-mpagi-sepuya

Jonathan Allmaier is a painter who lives in the Bronx. We talk about the work in his solo show The Howling Wind at James Fuentes Essex (on view through May 2, 2021). We also talk about the writing he does about his process, paintings as personhood, being a student of your work, starting over after moving to NYC, seeing the painting as a space or an object, dissolving the mind-body problem, Pearl Blauvelt, experiencing time through color, the influence of baseball and fatherhood, using the form of painting and altered objects/images as forms of painting, making versus showing, inanimate objects are people too, painting with and without a brush, the stubbornness of being an artist, Paul Thek, and including the space between the paintings.Jonathan Allmaier - The Howling Windhttps://50.62.71.108/exhibitions/2021/essex-the-howling-windJonathan Allmaier websitehttps://allmaier.wordpress.com/https://www.newyorker.com/goings-on-about-town/art/jonathan-allmaier-2Pearl Blauvelthttps://kerryschussgallery.com/pages/exhibitions_past_3.php?page=1https://www.moma.org/artists/28566Alfred Adler - The Courage to Be Dislikedhttps://www.amazon.com/Courage-Be-Disliked-Phenomenon-Happiness/dp/1501197274Thich Nhat Hanh - Clouds In Each Paperhttps://www.awakin.org/read/view.php?tid=222Nathaniel Hawthorne - The House of the Seven Gableshttps://www.amazon.com/House-Seven-Gables-Thrift-Editions/dp/0486408825Iching Online (I love to ask it questions)https://www.ichingonline.net/

Clare Grill is a painter who lives and works in Queens, NY. We talk about her beautiful solo show There’s the Air at Derek Eller Gallery, currently on view through April 24, 2021. The conversation also covers her way of collaborating with studio light, “changing the choreography”, the differing speeds of painting and drawing, making work that feels urgent, learning to look at the painting itself, complicated artifacts, drawings as a database, making abstract paintings in a field of feeling, the bones of a painting, working without a plan, becoming a painter, spending time with your work, and leaving room for not knowing or being in control all the time.Clare Grill - There’s the Airhttps://www.derekeller.com/exhibitions/clare-grillhttps://claregrill.com/The Brontës’ Secrethttps://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/the-brontes-secret/480726/I Had a Miscarriage by Shaina Feinberghttps://cupofjo.com/2019/07/miscarriage-story/

Fabienne Lasserre is an artist who makes work that is both painterly and sculptural. We discuss her solo show Eye Contact which is currently on view at Turn Gallery in NYC, and a range of other topics including the relationship between material and the immaterial, accepting imperfection, sacredness and playfulness, art as transformation, using transparency to dissolve boundaries, the need for more care in the world, sound and dance, seeing your work through someone else’s eyes, the sensuality of color, Niki de Saint Phalle, and different ways of being a feminist.http://fabiennelasserre.com/https://turngallerynyc.com/Philip Guston talk:https://www.pwf.cz/archivy/texts/articles/philip-guston-talking_2165.htmlNiki de Saint Phalle:https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/5111Lynn Tillman - Men and Apparitions:https://softskull.com/dd-product/men-and-apparitions/La Monte Young - Dream House:https://www.melafoundation.org/directions.htmDavid Hammons - Five Decades:https://www.mnuchingallery.com/exhibitions/david-hammons#tab:slideshow;tab-1:slideshowhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gagakuhttps://www.tate.org.uk/whats-on/tate-liverpool/exhibition/niki-de-saint-phalle/niki-de-saint-phalle-room-guide/niki-de-6Niki de Saint Phalle - Daddy, 1973:https://letterboxd.com/film/daddy-1973/

Vlad Smolkin is a painter who lives and works in Baltimore, MD. He also runs CPM, a multifaceted exhibition space. We talk about making art as psycho-spiritual alien shit, taking the long view, the language of abstraction and the synchronicity of found objects, the exhibition as a collaboration, running a gallery as an artist, and the underestimated culture value and power of artists.https://www.vladsmolkin.com/https://cpmprogram.com/https://coustofwaxman.com/Vlad-Smolkin-Faberge-NeckOctober-19th-November-23rd-2019

Glenn Goldberg is a painter who lives and works in NYC. We had a very beautiful and deep conversation about being committed to growth, learning not to hide, art and teaching as a spiritual practice and the influence of his Jewish upbringing, art as a way of enlarging your awareness, making work that is really alive, the awakenings of early success, considering what effect your work will have on others, allowing for inconsistency, creating relatable characters, the importance of sports, and the relentless pursuits of a creative life.https://nyss.org/exhibition/glenn-goldberg/https://brooklynrail.org/2015/04/art/glenn-goldberg-with-phong-buihttp://www.bettycuninghamgallery.com/exhibitions/glenn-goldbergByron Katie: The Work https://thework.com/

Caitlin Keogh is a painter who lives and works in New York. We talk about her current solo show Waxing Year which is currently on view through April 3rd at Overduin and Co in Los Angeles, CA. We also discuss a book called The White Goddess about ancient pagan poetry, Sylvia Plath, collaborating with poet Charity Coleman, making relationships between text and image, ideas about edges, collage as a process, surrealism, making pictures that don’t feel virtuous, Marguerite Duras and Chris Kraus, and her early ballet practice and the continued inspiration it holds for her.Waxing Year solo show:http://www.overduinandco.com/archive/caitlin_keogh/installation.htmhttps://bortolamigallery.com/artist/caitlin-keogh/Red Comet - Sylvia Plath biography:https://www.amazon.com/Red-Comet-Short-Blazing-Sylvia/dp/0307961168/ref=sr_1_1?crid=38CUHUT9S8WY2&dchild=1&keywords=red+comet+sylvia+plath&qid=1615305809&sprefix=red+com%2Caps%2C182&sr=8-1Charity Coleman - three:https://brooklynrail.org/2017/12/poetry/three-colemanhttps://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/20/magazine/the-life-and-loves-of-marguerite-duras.htmlMaya Plisetskaya - Dying Swan 1959:https://youtu.be/6_9AjAflHNAA Woman Under the Influence - Dying Swan:https://youtu.be/qAmO7GxJQ4o

Seung-Min Lee is a NY-based interdisciplinary artist. We talk about her recent solo show Light White at International Waters in NYC, as well as her early years in Maspeth, Queens, beatnik poetry, NFTs, Morandi, the original season of the Real World, technological fascism, fear of being cancelled, political correctness as a rapidly shifting horizon, and the power of being able to change your mind. https://www.seungminlee.com/Seung-Min Lee -Light White:https://internationalwaters.international/https://www.artnews.com/art-news/artists/consumer-reports-seung-min-lee-11995/NYTimes: The Original ‘Real World’ Cast Reunites, Older but Still Not Politehttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/26/arts/television/real-world-homecoming-cast.html?referringSource=articleShare

Vanessa Conte makes paintings, drawings, and stories that involve erotic images of fleshy women’s bodies being being punished and pounded. We had a very deep and sexy conversation about kink, Italo Calvino, obliteration fantasies, submission and domination, origins in erotic writing, playing with and denying narrative, fantasy vs reality, making art that people jerk off to, vulnerability, being artistically driven my need and desire, translating physicality and feeling into images, and being inspired by film.Vanessa Conte - Never Enoughhttps://www.randomman.net/publications/never-enoughVanessa Conte - Heavy Penaltieshttps://www.printedmatter.org/catalog/53713/Vanessa Conte - Cures for Pouting Girlshttp://ginervagambino.com/vanessa-conte-cureshttp://moussemagazine.it/vanessa-conte-moritz-scheper-2019/http://ginervagambino.com/vanessa-conte-up-to-your-neckhttp://commonwealthandcouncil.com/exhibitions/to-the-torrid-sea-i-fallhttps://artviewer.org/vanessa-conte-at-hester/The Night Porter - Lilana Cavanihttps://youtu.be/0zJbxDk3Iow

Jared Buckhiester is an artist who makes works in sculpture, drawing, printmaking, and photography. We talk about psychoanalysis, pocketknives, early work in fashion photography and NYC in the 90s, putting a little disco into everything, wrestling magazines and jail reports, broken narratives, editing and collage, creating games for one’s self to generate work, and the importance of relaxing in the studio.http://www.jaredbuckhiester.com/http://officemagazine.net/exploring-betweenRefusing to Shake:https://klausgallery.com/exhibition/jared-buckhiester-2019-05-10/#jared-buckhiester-4779Jared Buckhiester - Love Me Tender:https://davidgetsy.com/jared-buckhiester-love-me-tenderHard As Opal, Dani Leventhal & Jared Buckhiesterhttps://vimeo.com/133307381The Mountain Lion by Jean Staffordhttps://www.amazon.com/Mountain-Lion-Review-Books-Classics/dp/159017352XPsychoanalysis: The Impossible Professionhttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00513HCEI/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i3The Night Porterhttps://www.criterion.com/films/604-the-night-porterLarry Clarkhttps://www.simonleegallery.com/artists/larry-clark/

Kimia Ferdowsi Kline is a painter and sculptor who splits her time between Nashville and New York. She also curates the private collection at Wythe Hotel in Brooklyn. We talk about the challenge of not trying too hard, how pregnancy and motherhood has changed the work, the genius of Ali Wong, the metaphoric potential of her new materials, resisting the pressure to make work solely about identity politics, the difficulties of working during the pandemic, the practice of play in using salvaged wood, meditation as a creative tool, and art as a spiritual practice and way of healing.https://www.kimiakline.com/https://www.turngallerynyc.com/artists/kimia-ferdowsi-klinehttps://www.instagram.com/alkeemi/https://www.departures.com/lifestyle/art-culture/kimia-ferdowsi-kline-paintingsAli Wong: Baby Cobrahttps://www.netflix.com/title/80101493Ali Wong: Hard Knock Wifehttps://www.netflix.com/title/80186940The Artist’s Wayhttps://juliacameronlive.com/books-by-julia/the-artists-way-a-spiritual-path-to-higher-creativity/The 4Fs: A Trauma Typologyhttp://pete-walker.com/fourFs_TraumaTypologyComplexPTSD.htmLouise Bourgeois: An Unfolding Portraithttps://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/3661Always on Sunday (Louise Bourgeois’ salon)https://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/18/magazine/always-on-sunday.htmlTau Lewishttp://www.taulewis.com/Simone Leighhttps://www.hauserwirth.com/artists/28363-simone-leighAlma Allenhttps://www.blumandpoe.com/artists/alma_allenChris Ofilihttps://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/chris-ofili-2543SENSATION: Young British Artists from the Saatchi Collection, Brooklyn Museumhttps://www.brooklynmuseum.org/opencollection/exhibitions/683Agnes Martin: Her Life and Arthttps://www.amazon.com/Agnes-Martin-Her-Life-Art/dp/0500093903https://www.bahai.org/Art as Therapy by Alain de Bottonhttps://www.alaindebotton.com/art/

Acacia Marable is a painter and drawer with a background in photo, performance and video. We spoke about their daily drawing and meditation practice, Animal Crossing, working without a plan, the allure of cowboys, making work that is both political and personal, Robert Colescott vs Peter Saul, caterpillar as spirit animal, the pleasures of slowing down, and copying other artists as a way of learning.https://gertrudeinthewoods.com/acacia_marable.htmlAllam D’Arcangelohttps://www.moma.org/collection/works/79572?artist_id=1349&page=1&sov_referrer=artistMarsden Hartley: The Earth is All I Know of Wonderhttps://www.artbook.com/9788793659230.htmlBridgertonhttps://www.netflix.com/title/80232398Robert Colescotthttps://www.blumandpoe.com/artists/robert_colescottCharles Whitehttps://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/3930Peter Saulhttps://www.newmuseum.org/exhibitions/view/peter-saul-crime-and-punishmentMexican Muralistshttps://whitney.org/exhibitions/vida-americana

Ricardo Gonzalez paints moody characters, objects, and scenes that draw influence in film noir and German expressionism, among other things. We talk about his early years, inspirations in music and movies, painting over the parts you like best, the psychodrama of dealing with yourself in the studio, the uses of text and the lessons of graphic design, plus shared anecdotes and inspirations from Guston, Picasso, De Chirico, Twombly, Schnabel, Milton and March Avery and Susan Rothenberg.https://www.instagram.com/ricardo_gonzalez_v/https://joyslow.tumblr.com/https://www.asyageisberggallery.com/artists/ricardo-gonzalezThe Courage to Createhttps://www.amazon.com/Courage-Create-Rollo-May/dp/0393311066My Life with Picassohttps://www.amazon.com/Life-Picasso-Review-Books-Classics/dp/168137319Xhttps://www.julianschnabel.com/https://www.speronewestwater.com/exhibitions/susan-rothenberg_11/installationsThe Mystery of Picasso https://youtu.be/wa-mQcZfslcDream Househttps://www.melafoundation.org/LY_MZ_JHC_DHNov2018.html

Nick Irzyk is a NYC based painter with a background in printmaking (and one of the impresarios behind A.D. gallery in the LES). We talk about his recent paintings which draw from the visual vernacular of the office and the factory via diagrammatic imagery. We also get into the tyranny of Modernism, the fleeting fatalism of Utopia, the beauty of UK rave flyers, and the relationship of painting to drawing and time.https://www.nickirzyk.com/http://noplacegallery.com/index.php/main/exhibition/neuhttp://www.106green.com/nick-irzykhttp://adnyc.co/Rave Flyershttp://www.ravepreservationproject.com/The Great Covid Class Warhttps://www.thebellows.org/the-great-covid-class-war/On the Phenomenon of Bullshit Jobs: A Work Rant by David Graeberhttps://www.strike.coop/bullshit-jobs/https://www.hauserwirth.com/artists/19427-gunther-forgdefinition of the word “based”https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Based

Jamie Chan makes loving paintings of baseball players, Post-it notes, and angels, among other things. We talk about making intimate images, her slow burn style, spirituality, identity, history, and how a day job can influence the creative process or become a stage for aesthetic experience.http://jamiechan.nyc/http://www.thislongcentury.com/jamie-chanWhat Wind, curated by Eric Palgon:https://www.ceyssonbenetiere.com/en/exhibitions/What-wind-2019-New-York-1108/http://www.ericpalgon.com/ The Worlds of Bernice Bing:https://www.aawaa.net/the-worlds-of-bernice-bingMary Carlson, Eden:https://kerryschussgallery.com/pages/exhibitions_past_3.php?page=1Gerard David:https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/gera/hd_gera.htmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gleaners

Eduardo Navarro is an Argentinian artist who works in a wide range of mediums including sculpture, performance, installation, and drawing. We spoke about his first UK solo exhibition (breathspace) currently on view at Gasworks in London, which includes a small humanoid sculpture called Self-Doll which became a surrogate for the artist. We also spoke about previous work including Timeless Alex in which he performs as a giant turtle, and Poema Volcanico, in which he visits and creates drawings while climbing to an active volcano.http://www.navarroeduardo.com/https://gasworks.org.uk/exhibitions/eduardo-navarro-breathspace/https://nararoesler.art/en/artists/76-eduardo-navarro/https://www.newmuseum.org/calendar/view/464/eduardo-navarro-1https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/arts/design/eduardo-navarro-edible-art-drawing-center.htmlEliza, Computer Therapist: http://psych.fullerton.edu/mbirnbaum/psych101/Eliza.htmWerner Herzog - La Soufriere:https://youtu.be/EVVAGmlgDxI

Joy Curtis is a sculptor who lives and works in Brooklyn, NY. We talked about her solo show Skeleton Woman at Klaus Von Nichtsaggend gallery which is on view through January 9, 2020, the ideas around healing, surrender, and transformation that are woven into the work, and her turn towards softer and more vulnerable forms since her last solo show at Klaus.https://klausgallery.com/exhibition/joy-curtis-2020-12-4/#joy-curtis-5542http://www.joycurtisartist.com/Books and related reading / viewing:My Grandmother’s Hands:https://www.amazon.com/My-Grandmothers-Hands-Racialized-Pathway/dp/1942094477https://www.amazon.com/Flash-Spirit-African-Afro-American-Philosophy/dp/0394723694Audre Lorde - Uses of the Erotic: https://uk.sagepub.com/sites/default/files/upm-binaries/11881_Chapter_5.pdfbell hooks - Communion:https://www.amazon.com/Communion-Female-Search-bell-hooks/dp/0060938293About Butoh:https://tricycle.org/trikedaily/butoh-japanese-dance-darkness/CHEER-TOHhttps://vimeo.com/5087474

J.A. Feng is a Brooklyn based painter who recently presented a new body of work at NADA Miami with gallery 12.26 that imagines “worlds within worlds” and alternate models and origins of the universe. We also discuss her own origin story of becoming an artist, and the spiraling path of time and painting.https://jafeng.art/home.htmlhttps://www.gallery1226.com/ja-fenghttps://www.newartdealers.org/programs/nada-miami-2020/presentations/13George Carlin - Saving the Planet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6cJodorowsky’s Holy Mountain: https://youtu.be/qmR0vi0ifzEFantastically Wrong: The Scientist Who Thought That Birds Migrate to the Moon: https://www.wired.com/2014/10/fantastically-wrong-scientist-thought-birds-migrate-moon/

Anna Rosen is a painter working in fresco and on paper in her most recent work. She spoke about the process of creating her solo show Egg and Dart which is currently on view at Night Gallery in Los Angeles, CA. We explore the cast of characters and elements that show up in her paintings, including aristocrats, vessels, eggs, ducks, spaghetti dinners, and time travel.https://www.nightgallery.ca/exhibitions/anna-rosen2https://www.hans-gallery.com/myprettyredheartEarth Girls Are Easy Alien Makeover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCPbxmnGshIJust Say Julie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwdXX1Ida7E

Juliana Paciulli is an artist in deep dialogue with the phenomenology of pop culture, the weird poetics of mass produced objects, and the discombobulated imagining of women’s bodies. We talk about her inspirations in the cinematography of sitcoms and advertisements, her love of Three’s Company, the surrealism of the 80s, moving off the screen, her recent uses of toilet paper, and the ethos of the Riot Grrrl movement.http://julianapaciulli.com/Paul Outerbridge toilet paper image: https://artsearch.nga.gov.au/detail.cfm?irn=106754The Riot Grrrl Collection at NYU: https://guides.nyu.edu/riot-grrrlWayne’s World - Product Placement scene: https://youtu.be/8lgLYGBbDNsThe Doors - Thanksgiving scene: https://youtu.be/YQSP_R3Use8

Timothy Hull is an “archeologist of the soul” — an artist who gathers inspiration in the field of history, and draws connections between antiquity and the present in elegant paintings that are often covered in patterns, ancient texts, and fragments of figures and architecture. We cover a lot of bases in this episode from seeing his beautiful home in Upstate New York as an ongoing work of art in collaboration with his husband, to esoteric spiritual interests, to our shared love of emo music and inspirational quotes.https://fridaynotes.com/http://www.kristenlorello.com/timothy-hull-soloexhibition-2019https://ashesonashes.com/lim-mage-nhttps://ashesonashes.com/dark-mode-2014-2019Intro to ho'oponopono: https://youtu.be/hG6lwOpzBS4https://www.instagram.com/eleven_horseshoe_tarot/

Nicholas Sullivan is a very process driven sculptor and one of two Nicks who run A.D. gallery on NYC’s LES. We talk about his new studio, his cool artist mom, materials and their meaning, the power of work that is both personal and political, the tenderness of paper, Orwell’s 1984, and learning to trust one’s self in the creative process wherever it goes.https://www.nicholas-sullivan.com/http://adnyc.co/Zen Mind, Beginner’s Mind by Shunryu SuzukiRichard Powers, The OverstoryThe Fullness of Emptiness by Thich Naht HahnGeorge Orwell’s 1984Robert Gober, The Heart is Not a Metaphor

Alicia Gibson is a painter and drawer with “a collage mentality”. We chat about working and collecting materials from her current locale in South Carolina, poetic and cathartic uses of text, the transformative potential of art, pet portraits, and her upcoming solo show at Grifter gallery in NYC!https://aliciagibson.net/https://www.grifter.space/https://www.loyalgallery.com/artists/alicia-gibson/

A brief introduction to the pod, and to me, your host, Jennifer Sullivan

Interview with artist Max Maslansky about his recent solo show at Five Car Garage in Los Angeles, CA, and the connections to his earlier work. We talk about painting vs ceramics, the uses of anxiety and ritual, and how jokes can lead into new work. Enjoy this deep dive with Max and his work!http://www.maxmaslansky.info/https://papiboybabyboy.sexy/http://emmagrayhq.com/artists/max-maslansky/https://hammer.ucla.edu/made-in-la-2014/max-maslansky