Men of Sorrows Finding Joy

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wclloyd@icloud.comWelcome all to the Men of Sorrows finding Joy podcast. I am WilliamLloyd, a man of Sorrow. Our podcast is committed to supporting andencouraging men to process their grief in order to heal and return tojoyful living in the midst of great sadness. Although it is directed toward men,all are welcome to tune in and participate. The reason for Men of Sorrows Finding Joy is geared toward men is thefact that in most of the grief support groups I attended after the death of myson, men were noticeably absent, and one of the often-heard reports of thewives, mothers and sisters about the men in the family was, “They are angry andkeep busy.” Big boys don't cry was aphrase I grew up with, but here, men are invited to cry, mourn and expresstheir emotions by following the example of the best, bravest and strongest manthat ever lived, Jesus Christ. Hebrews 5:7 - During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered upprayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could savehim from death and Isaiah 51 declares Jesus was a man of sorrows acquaintedwith grief.

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Dan and Maura Duddy lost their son, Francis in a drunk driving accident. The driver, Connor, was a friend of the family and a young man Dan coached and mentored. Dan and his son forgave Connor publicly, and the family as a whole, forgave him privately. Dan's story is a beautiful story of redemption, resurrection and renewal. "It's our mission to make sure two lives aren't taken through this process,'' Dan Duddy Jr., the victim's brother, said in court before Hanifin was sentenced. "We'll do this through forgiveness and remaining by Connor's side from here on out,'' he said. https://www.danduddy.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsc_RQl0d3w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS-3_IYD5ZY dan@danduddy.com wclloyd@icloud.com

In this episode, I share a bit of Liam's story along with what helpd me move from despair to hope in my grief journey. Below is a youtube video of my grief counselor and I talking about my first year of grieving. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7sz-O5D5vQ Below is the website for Dr. Alan Wolfelt. Here you can get the book I mentioned in the podcast as well as many other resources to help you. https://www.centerforloss.com/ EMAIL - wclloyd@icloud.com

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After Liam died, I was much more empathetic. I thought feeling guilty for someone's death only pertained to suicide or something you did to kill the person accidently. I was very surprised how many people felt guilty in cases I thought were beyond their control like cancer, old age, a car accident etc. I found that guilt is more common in grief than it is absent. In today's meditation we learn why guilt is not from God and the day is common where all things will be redeemed. wclloyd@icloud.com

Michael Hicks lost his son to suicide on Feb. 11, 2019. Macoy Hicks served our country serving in the Navy. Michael, his wife, Jolee, and his daughter, SIenna have founded Hickstrong and are helping Veterans in profound and practical ways. Please visit their website and other social media sites. Your donations will do so much to help the Veterans. The Hicksstrong story is one of dedication, commintment, redemption and faith. Hicksstong.org Facebook: http://facebook.com/hicksstrong (http://facebook.com/hicksstrong)  Instagram: http://instagram.com/hicksstrong_inc (http://instagram.com/hicksstrong_inc)  Google My Business Page: https://g.page/r/Cfw8ElYasRSQEAE (https://g.page/r/Cfw8ElYasRSQEAE)  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hicksstrong-inc (https://www.linkedin.com/company/hicksstronginc)  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hicksstrong.org (https://www.tiktok.com/@hicksstrong.org)  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL7cht8G-hwgDfQdXaXGvOQ (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL7cht8G-hwgDfQdXaXGvOQ)

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Walking with God Through Pain and Suffering by Timothy Keller John 14 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2014&version=NIV#fen-NIV-26670a (a)]; believe also in me. 2 My Father's house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.” 1 Thesolonians 4 13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord's word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.

Suicide has often been called unforgiveable or "a ticket to hell." In this episode, Bill explains why this idea has no Scriptural basis. If you area survivor and struggle with this idea, it is worth a listen. Email: bill.wsf@gmail.com; wclloyd@icloud.com www.rethinkinghell.com http://whitestonezone.blogspot.com/ www.alphaministries.org https://feeds.captivate.fm/men-of-sorrows-finding/

Introduction to Men of Sorrows episode includes a brief teaching on 1 Thessolonians 4:13. Bil also gives some background to his grief journey concerning his son Corporal Liam John Lloyd's death. Liam's story will unfold as the podcast continues. http://whitestonezone.blogspot.com/2021/10/grief-loss-and-raising-of-lazarus.html

In this episode two suicide attempt survivors share their stories of their despair, aftermath, and God's grace giving them a new meaning and purpose in life. Bil Saum is a retired police officer, and Steve Cone is a retired Airforce Veteran as well as retired firefighter/first responder. They serve Vets and First Responders in their ministry X-22 Adventures. All of the information is below. https://www.x-22adventures.org/ Phone: 863-801-7729 Email: S.Cone@x-22adventures.org https://thefallenoutdoors.com