Well May We Say

Pretty hard to do timestamps this week, it was a pretty wide-ranging discussion. But some real ideas on what we can do did emerge during our chat.

02:07 Painting Protest11:34 Do diversity for us but don't actually say anything19:35 Go home Cardinal Pell22:38 Farewell Jacinda, we like you much more than the brief mention here would suggest30:20 Perrotet: who knew in 2003 that dressing up like a Nazi is bad?35:22 Molan: the tragedy when war criminals die40:16 It's perfectly okay to say not-nice things about evil dead people50:10 Tom's Book

01:53 Victorian Election This Very Saturday21:26 What Shall We Do About Poor Little Twitter

02:39 Naughty Sportsminions thinking they're there to play sport22:43 Media Watch Goes To The TERFs32:04 Because Lidia Thorpe Dated An Ex-Bikie, Now The Greens May Not Criticise Actual Corruption

00:03:47 Why stage 3 tax cuts going through is a real, serious long-term problem and will not only seriously harm people in the short term, it will seriously stuff up progressive politics in the medium and long term; also can we reverse the bloody ratchet?00:19:15 ALP's paid parental leave... eventually? And still without super, ability to promote the change it's supposed to promote00:35:31 Thorburn: another fake "religious persecution" beat up

01:11 Covid receives a strongly-worded letter from the National Cabinet; will the virus go away now the premiers say it's over? (No.)15:18 Labor tries to make its new ICAC model appealing to Peter Dutton, whose approval would definitely mean they're on the right track;23:04 The Libs refuse to be dismayed by Coolio's passing, because they've found their own new rapping talent;30:42 Jeremy and Denise try to figure out why the left is so much worse at finding common cause with allies than the right (thanks Tom, Emerald and Wil for the conversation trigger).

It was the last day of Scummo after all! But is the new Ablo government all we hoped? (No, and we had pretty low hopes.) Also, Well May We Say “God Save the Queen”, because nothing will save the unsympathetic and, frankly, pretty annoyed lefties on this podcast.

01:36 Frydenberg - "Everything's affordable if it's a priority"02:17 Frydenberg jokes about everyone in his electorate hating him02:45 Clive's ONE HOUR ads on seven, nine and ten04:10 The "no voting for you" window07:55 when you have a decent local candidate but also like the Greens13:45 Something to consider with your bouncing Senate vote

01:42 They Wanna Live Like Common People12:26 Waleed vs wage rises21:57 Gotcha got

01:09 Hung Parliament04:38 Gaslight Election07:49 Not some kind of disgusting, ugh, lefties13:20 a balanced "debate"15:25 google it mate20:20 bullies pretending to be victims

ALP stands up to scientists!ALP stands up to the Greens!Bluey declares war on Squibs!

00:01:26 Reckless Easing, the 56% Opening story00:23:28 rules for thee not for me - Scummo's ode to being a dad00:32:55 Ablo just giving up - revenue, housing affordability00:47:50 Why Bandt's "tax the billionaires" pitch isn't the election winner he thinks it is00:51:40 remember the reverse ratchet00:55:46 Spending always about cost not benefit01:01:10 Afghanistan non-rescue: waste of a PM01:08:10 Tudge-ucation01:09:10 Lyle's bad day

00:02:10 Housing Affordability Is Screwing You, Too00:39:30 Lockdowns, Anti-Vicsers01:01:15 What Is The Point Of All This Anyway

00:01:42 Brother Scott's Divine Mission00:54:26 Labor Being Depressing Corner

00:01:20 A difficult subject to discuss - the people who are qualified to talk on it are traumatised00:04:40 That's not what "the presumption of innocence" means00:08:30 Who's responsible for fixing Australia's terrible defamation laws? A man who's using them to punish journalists00:16:50 March 4 Justice much scarier than a gun protest00:28:35 Scummo getting away with starving the poor bc everyone's letting him sell the cut as "an increase"00:36:36 NSW police commissioner's "consent app" brain fart00:40:01 When Scummo says "jobs" he means "a policy that will make yours harder and less secure"00:43:22 Imagine you wanted to join the ALP00:45:11 Australia vs Humanity - more Dutton dehumanising whoever he can

02:26 Another brutal cut to social security19:20 Scummo's wife reminds him that covering up rape could be wrong27:36 The Dumbest Way To Try To Shake Down Facebook

Why can't the ALP win the musical chairs economics argument? The country is kind of depending on them figuring it out.

00:01:08 Australian rightwingers and Prime Minister vs a new US Administration00:11:30 Scummo to starve the poor even harder00:17:08 Annual Jan 26 Argy Bargy With No Progress00:27:03 Australia vs Humanity

New year, new opportunities (to do terrible things)

00:01:00 #ScottyDidntHelp00:07:40 $50/day00:20:25 propaganda by boardgame00:29:18 where are the journos calling out the $50/day madness00:33:40 shut up I'm the PM and they asked me about lady experiences00:39:00 Porter and Tudge shitty misogynists as well as terrible in all the other ways00:49:30 ugh exclusives

We don't talk about the US election. We don't talk about the US election. We don't talk about the US election.Ok we do a bit. But it's mainly about how cooked centrism is and how infuriating it is when the Libs pretend to do a policy we all want (eg ICAC) but it isn't really. Also there was an election in Queensland.

Brandon joins us to discuss the upcoming Queensland election and also how cruel people are being about a more southerly premier dating a bloke after she sacked him for corruption AS IF WE HAVEN'T ALL DONE THAT. Also we have more advice for Daniel Andrews? How much more presumptuous can a lefty political podcast get?

00:01:18 LNP's 2020 budget; flattening tax rates so rich pay less on deranged lie that will create "jobs"; job subsidy programs that just encourage businesses to sack one worker so they can hire a subsidised one; removing credit regulations to further inflate housing costs00:26:36 Love Between The Paw Paw Trees - Trying to force poor young people to take underpaid jobs in remote areas; stenos' hard work in the propaganda mines to sell it00:34:30 Political Agony Aunt - Nick Carr00:39:14 Time To Fix The NBN!00:42:49 Stuck In My Craw - Eliza Berlage00:54:32 Scummo vs suburban coffee shops00:58:02 Supine media and the "bubble". (BUBBLE WARNING)01:01:26 "Centre Alliance" gives the Libs their Uni Destruction Bill (bad luck kids who want freedom to choose a course but don't have super rich parents)01:08:36 Lambie flips a coin and decides to vote against a new cruelty to refugees01:19:05 Victoria; Mikakos resigns; Baxendale silliness; why can't ALP actually argue what it's learned from its mistakes

QuarantineVicpol thuggeryLet The Victorians StarveBorder compassionStuck In My Craw - Nick CarrWhat would solve our troubles, gas industry advisor?

Unprecedented RecessionTony Abbott - let the old people dieJeff Kennett - Victorian premiers should not be authoritarianVictoria police - Incite This!Qld police - Trust Us (to cover for the bad cops)Australia Vs Humanity - Tudge's fudge re mobile phones in immigration detention

In which the brave soul keeping tabs on the conspiracy nutters, Cam Smith, joins us to discuss their recent unleashing, as Victoria locks down further. And Stilgherrian returns to tell us what's stuck in his craw.

* Something D-O-O Economics* Despair* Do It For Josh* But My Great Grandfather Loved Having A Racial Slur As His Surname

Cover your device in a plastic sheet, it's a pair of Victorians talking about what's happening in plague state!

00:01:20 Lurgi Strikes Victoria because of everyone News Corp hates 00:15:15 Silly News Corp beatup #1 (Lydia Thorpe) 00:18:23 Silly News Corp beatup #2 (Chess!) 00:22:40 Silly News Corp beatup #3 (Lollies!) 00:32:56 Actual journalism on the ABC! - Arts package 00:45:23 Actual journalism on the ABC! - ABC funding 00:59:11 Revenge On The Universities

00:03:58 BLM: LNP, media and police try everything to avoid change 00:46:31 Australia vs Humanity 00:48:08 Cam Smith tells us what's Stuck In His Craw 00:49:20 Queen's Birthday Horrors 00:57:22 Budget built on stealing $1.5bn from the poor 01:05:52 Money for reno rorts but cuts for the poor and women

In which technical issues (oh god not the wrong mic), children (awake & singing) and birds (also awake & singing) thwart morning recording efforts on Friday and Saturday despite there being a lot to talk about.

00:02:43 Well May We Say God Queen Stop Hiding Your Historical Correspondence About The Dismissal 00:08:37 Friday Drop 2: Fine You Got Us, Lib Govt To Pay Back $721m To Robodebt Victims It Stole It From 00:13:53 Friday Drop 1: Lib Govt Scams "JobKeepers" With $60bn Error 00:29:38 The COAG Is Dead, Long Live COAG Under A Different Name 00:31:43 JobBullshitter 00:31:11 Happy Reconciliation Week We Blew Up This Precious Cultural Site For You

00:01:38 Hello Second Wave - No sick leave for casuals = mcdonald's outbreak - "Arrest Bill Gates!" - LNP Tim Smith continues his weird obsessing about "Dictator Dan" - Vic Libs plan for reopening no mention of health 00:20:04 Stuck In My Craw - Stilgherrian 00:25:04 Shit policy propped up with shameless propaganda - China stoush (prop from smh wE shOuLd stAnD uP for PriNciPlE and abc ThEy LoVe oUr StuFf) - Scummo jobseeker being liveable (let's pretend it's weekly not fortnightly) disincentive to work - "First Lady" Jenny Morrison 00:40:30 Media farewells - Buzz Feed Oz shuts - Media Watch and Alan Jones

00:01:10 Covid-19 Freedom, Janet doing some maths on old people, and illuminating us on the app00:46:29 ALP and ACTU vs retail and migrant workers00:58:56 Eden Monaro01:03:01 Smashing TVs to teach the state a lesson (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOVy3weAtqw as put together by Cam Smith)

00:03:13 Scummo's latest ideas - let everyone out early; $3bn to bribe private schools to open early - vs how are we actually tracking? 00:23:12 Credit For Scummo 00:31:29 Locking down renters 00:37:00 Stuck In My Craw (Brandon Selic) 00:49:24 Victorian doctor makes HISTORICAL ANALOGY and must be BURNED

01:20 Pandemic Inspections 05:50 Why won't you trust this trustworthy government of trustworthy people with a tracking app 09:27 $94m Emergency oil reserve kept safely where we can't get it in an emergency 13:08 Trumble reassures us that he knew the people he was giving huge power over our lives were incompetent lunatics 21:41 JobKeeper and JobSeeker debacles 30:35 Opening the thingsLockdown effect link referred to by Brandon - https://phys.org/news/2020-04-economic-worse-lockdown-social-distancing.html

00:03:41 Logan's Run 00:05:50 Know Your Foe: The IPA Isn't Afraid 00:14:55 JobKeeper for Some 00:35:47 What Is The High Court Doing? (Trigger warning: discussion of catholic priests) 00:50:08 Looking For Some Positives

The many helpful apocalypse skills of Scummo When the other shoe drops Erin Riley tells us what's Stuck in Her Craw Kevern and Trumble rumble Easter borders

Recorded Sunday 22/3/2020 What is happening? What does it mean? What can we do about it? What does Stilgherrian have Stuck In His Craw?

Where we were Friday afternoon (with a Sunday evening update) comfortable in the knowledge that the greatest minds in the country were doing the best they could to keep us safe from the pandemic.

DREADED LURGI 01:30 Hoarding/Heroic TP workers 08:30 Casual racism at SMH NO MORE BULLSHIT CORNER 09:09 North Sydney "regional" pool 12:20 Porter to HoR - the PM "can't be responsible" for emails sent from his department 15:45 Shorten to PM on "no duty" to people on centrelink 27:06 Ardern v Scummo 30:45 Frydenberg weird racism against Hindus 36:11 LNP hates LGBTI people / would like to be welcomed to Mardi Gras SHAMELESS MORONS CORNER 39:57 Bronwyn's theories about CORVID-19 40:40 Dutton islamist terrorism "left-wing" 42:58 Fever Ranty and Malcolm Roberts: right wing extremists (including actual historical Nazis) really left-wing NOT THAT IT MATTERS but they were left-wing 47:08 LNP Senator Rennick vs the Bureau of Meteorology and also CSIRO

Holden gone - Govt's response to robodebt cases that it doesn't have to exercise "due or reasonable care" - Sooty lying about what he said that angered Paul from Nelligen - ALP complaining about a resources tax - sports rorts projects not even eligible - some absurd rants from Katter and Fieravanti-Wells - and much more!

01:15 Cam (Stuck In My Craw) 04:19 Bandt (nightmarish platform of hideously appealing policies) 09:52 McCormack (believes in what exactly) 15:26 Littleproud (I'm not gifted academically) 25:15 Dutton (250 imaginary arsonists) 30:44 Scummo (bully projection)

- Survival Day 2020 - bushfires smother debate - Ablo's useless ALP backs Jan 26 - Religious privilege bill responses due next Friday - "Bullying" fundamentalists who bully children not ok, but bullying people who once did a post on Facebook criticising our bullying of refugees before deleting it is totally okay - Tanya Pledgersek - No consequences for sports rorts - Fossil fuel lobby escapes any consequences, except that lost production from the bushfires themselves

Greg and Jeremy discuss the Libs' pivot from NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT to NOTHING WE CAN DO, conveniently both positions that enable their fossil fuel lobby mates to keep stuffing the atmosphere full of greenhouse gases until we all die. And Jeremy suggests how Labor could combine Australians' desire not to spend the rest of their lives in gas masks with the nationalism on which politicians trade - in short, for Australia to become a nation that fights hard on the world stage for other nations to cut global emissions enough that this is as bad as it gets.

Sooty comes back from his secret Hawaian holiday to find a very ungrateful country that is not at all thankful for the exciting adventure he's been giving them and, worse, wants him to change. But he will not change! He's Sooty!

01:24 The Best Leadership You Could Hope For When Your Country Is Burning 15:45 Making Excuses For The Best Leadership You Could Hope For When Your Country Is Burning 18:29 Effing Wombats 22:55 Get My Government Out Of Your Lives 27:24 Getting Angry About Toddlers Needing To Use A Servo Toilet

00:00:00 Apology 00:01:03 Acknowledgment 00:02:03 Advertising 00:04:10 Advances 00:11:55 Americans 00:12:05 Adversaries 00:15:10 Amazon 00:15:28 Audible 00:15:40 Advertising 00:16:15 Australians 00:16:38 Authoritarians 00:16:59 Arbitrary rules 00:17:37 Arseholes Alright it's a broad discussion over two hours mainly trying to figure out WTF we can do to change the direction the country is going.

Unbreathable Sydney. A religious fundamentalism bill even worse than the last one. Will "the Opposition" manage to capitalise on the government's unforced errors?You'll never guess the answer.

Link for submissions to Victorian Government review (due Wednesday 18 December 2019) - https://www.tenantsvic.org.au/regulations/ 00:01:25 Improving the lot of tenants in Victoria (wide-ranging discussion about the balance and steps forward) (Ben's audio quality improves after the first ten minutes)00:51:11 Labor digs up the Rudd/Turnbull ETS from 2009 to have a dig at the Greens00:56:49 Lambie betrays refugees on extremely silly grounds00:58:25 Rugby Australia betrays LGBTI Australians by rolling over to Folau on extremely silly grounds

02:30 Folau blaming bushfires on marriage equality - opportunity to separate him from supporters and harm the Religious Discrimination Bill (which Porter is threatening to make even worse)05:18 Scummo bushfires - cricket; nothing we can do on climate change but we're doing lots15:34 Emerson "international green socialism" is "white supremacy" article, along with supportive tweets by Crabb, Sales, Riley etc