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The non-brother separate bedroom roommate partners return for their 3rd podcast series. Now with even fewer episodes! This February Cromis has declared that Sam and Jam will watch Nelson Shin's 1986's The Transformers: The Movie. A truly beautiful animated classic filled to the brim with iconic moments that will make you say, "Wait there was a Transformers movie in the 80's?" Yes you dummy! It's arguably the best one!!

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    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 9, 2023 32:27


    Strap in folks, this is a wild one. Two very tired separate bedroom partner bros bring you the final episode in this installment of Cromis's mandated podcast. This week's theme is music, that is definitely mentioned! We hope you enjoyed this run of episodes, and stay tuned! Soon enough this feed will once again TRANSFORM into something new, and different, and probably somehow very similar to what came before. When? What? Who can say? All we know is that, one day a new episode will pop up in your feed and we'll reacquaint ourselves all over again. Edited and Produced by Andy Milad Music by Shua Bells Additional Music by Sam Welbel and Andy Milad Artwork by Jam Doughty Executive Produced by Cromis N. Slitherford LINKS: Andy: Shubucorp.com Shua Bells: Bandcamp, Youtube, Instagram Jam: Etsy, Patreon, Instagram Sam: Instagram, Youtube

    Attack of the Bart

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 28, 2023 37:48


    Bart's back baybeeeeeee. Bart has joined our weary hosts to discuss robot politique. Who are the factions? What do they want? Which geographic areas do they control? Edited and Produced by Andy Milad Music by Shua Bells Additional Music by Sam Welbel and Andy Milad Artwork by Jam Doughty Executive Produced by Cromis N. Slitherford LINKS: Andy: Shubucorp.com Shua Bells: Bandcamp, Youtube, Instagram Jam: Etsy, Patreon, Instagram Sam: Instagram, Youtube

    In which a long awaited guest asks a very important question (ft. our friend Fro)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 21, 2023 39:59


    Episode 2! we've cum so far! Or have we? In this episode, along with a discussion of vocal performance, we are joined by our friend Fro and discuss if there's maybe a creampie in this movie after all. Edited and Produced by Andy Milad Music by Shua Bells Additional Music by Sam Welbel and Andy Milad Artwork by Jam Doughty Executive Produced by Cromis N. Slitherford LINKS: Andy: Shubucorp.com Shua Bells: Bandcamp, Youtube, Instagram Jam: Etsy, Patreon, Instagram Sam: Instagram, Youtube

    We Now Return to The Podcast

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 14, 2023 40:08


    Hello faithful listeners! The non-brother separate bedroom roommate partners return for their 3rd podcast series. Now with even fewer episodes! This February Cromis has declared that Sam and Jam will watch Nelson Shin's 1986's The Transformers: The Movie. A truly beautiful animated classic filled to the brim with iconic moments that will make you say, "Wait there was a Transformers movie in the 80's?" Yes you dummy! it's arguably the best one!! This episode's topic is Character design, and boy were these characters designed! Edited and Produced by Andy Milad Music by Shua Bells Additional Music by Sam Welbel and Andy Milad Artwork by Jam Doughty Executive Produced by Cromis N. Slitherford LINKS: Andy: Shubucorp.com Shua Bells: Bandcamp, Youtube, Instagram Jam: Etsy, Patreon, Instagram Sam: Instagram, Youtube

    The Last Bart (2022's David Gordon Green's Halloween Ends)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 9, 2022 47:25


    The final episode in the series! Will the non-brother partner roommate snake co-parents return for more audio adventures? Probably, but nothing confirmed yet baybee. So if you want to hear our audio improve and then get worse, then get better again (progress isn't linear!) you'll have to DM us on myspace. This is the only episode not recorded immediately after watching the movie, as we will explain in the episode. If you want to hear the original ~lost episode (w/ a field recording!) please send $60 via money order directly to Cromis's mouth. Thank you for listening! We hope to continue to be your ear buds in the future! Edited and Produced by Andy Milad Music by Shua Bells Additional Music by Sam Welbel and Andy Milad Artwork by Jam Doughty Executive Produced by Cromis N. Slitherford LINKS: Andy: Shubucorp.com Shua Bells: Bandcamp, Youtube, Instagram Jam: Etsy, Patreon, Instagram Sam: Instagram, Youtube

    A murderous interlude (David Gordon Green's Halloween Kills (2021))

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2022 36:28


    Is Halloween Kills good? idk is the Halloween candy version of a Reese's Cup lower quality than the regular retail version? Probably, but we all still eat them. So there's your answer, no need to listen to the episode. jkjkjkjkjk, please listen to the episode, we need the attention to live Edited and Produced by Andy Milad Music by Shua Bells Additional Music by Sam Welbel and Andy Milad Artwork by Jam Doughty Executive Produced by Cromis N. Slitherford LINKS: Andy: Shubucorp.com Shua Bells: Bandcamp, Youtube, Instagram Jam: Etsy, Patreon, Instagram Sam: Instagram, Youtube

    This again?? (David Gordon Green's Halloween (2018))

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2022 45:08


    okay okay...it's a movie...that's a sequel...but just to the original 1978 one...and it's a reboot? And John Carpenter is back as an executive producer? and doing the music with his kid?....and it's called HALLOWEEN!!???...yes. Wrap your brain around this one, folks. The 5th(?) continuity in the franchise, the third movie titled Halloween, and the third movie to be a sequel to a movie titled Halloween....this is a branding nightmare, but a good movie!! Edited and Produced by Andy Milad Music by Shua Bells Additional Music by Sam Welbel and Andy Milad Artwork by Jam Doughty Executive Produced by Cromis N. Slitherford LINKS: Andy: Shubucorp.com Shua Bells: Bandcamp, Youtube, Instagram Jam: Etsy, Patreon, Instagram Sam: Instagram, Youtube

    The second of three Halloween twos ( Rob Zombie's Halloween II (2009)) ft. Maddy VDK

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2022 38:09


    Back to back guests! And they're also partner roommates with separate beds! We round out this little mini-series within the mini-series (the Rob Zombie Halloween Duology) with our pal Maddy. Did these movies upend our expectations of them? Only one way to find out! Edited and Produced by Andy Milad Music by Shua Bells Additional Music by Sam Welbel and Andy Milad Artwork by Jam Doughty Executive Produced by Cromis N. Slitherford LINKS: Andy: Shubucorp.com Shua Bells: Bandcamp, Youtube, Instagram Jam: Etsy, Patreon, Instagram Sam: Instagram, Youtube

    Michael has long hair this time (Rob Zombie's Halloween (2007)) ft. Alex Novell

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2022 44:04


    We have a gen-you-wine Youtuber on the show for this ep, Alex Novell. We discuss Rob Zombie's "hell-billy" aesthetic, and some other stuff too. Alex's Links Youtube, Instagram Edited and Produced by Andy Milad Music by Shua Bells Additional Music by Sam Welbel and Andy Milad Artwork by Jam Doughty Executive Produced by Cromis N. Slitherford LINKS: Andy: Shubucorp.com Shua Bells: Bandcamp, Youtube, Instagram Jam: Etsy, Patreon, Instagram Sam: Instagram, Youtube

    Laurie's GGOOONNNEEE (2002's Rick Rosenthal's Halloween: Resurrection)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2022 42:46


    The follow up to the sequel/reboot of H20 has Jamie Lee Curtis in top billing. Then the rest of the movie is a haunted house flick in the Myers House! Another "vibes" picture! Edited and Produced by Andy Milad Music by Shua Bells Additional Music by Sam Welbel and Andy Milad Artwork by Jam Doughty Executive Produced by Cromis N. Slitherford LINKS: Andy: Shubucorp.com Shua Bells: Bandcamp, Youtube, Instagram Jam: Etsy, Patreon, Instagram Sam: Instagram, Youtube

    Laurie's BAAAACCCKKK (1998's Steven Miner's Halloween H20: 20 Years Later) ft. Don Crecendo

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2022 33:31


    We've made it to the second continuity (?). 20 years after the events of the original Halloween and Halloween II, Laurie Strode returns to the story, now as the Headmaster of a Private Boarding School in California. We are joined by the incomparable Don Crescendo, and have a good chat! Don's Links Instagram, Soundcloud, Bandcamp, Spotify Edited and Produced by Andy Milad Music by Shua Bells Additional Music by Sam Welbel and Andy Milad Artwork by Jam Doughty Executive Produced by Cromis N. Slitherford LINKS: Andy: Shubucorp.com Shua Bells: Bandcamp, Youtube, Instagram Jam: Etsy, Patreon, Instagram Sam: Instagram, Youtube

    Some movies are Psy-ops (1995's some french guy's Halloween 6: The Curse of Michael Myers

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 29, 2022 37:28


    Buckle up because this movie is all vibes. The finale of the Thorn Trilogy leaves something to be desired. Namely, what the fuck is up with the Rune of Thorn? It also  begs the question, did Michael fuck in between the last movie and this one?. It's not answered, but we do learn that Michael's head is full of goo. Edited and Produced by Andy Milad Music by Shua Bells Additional Music by Sam Welbel and Andy Milad Artwork by Jam Doughty Executive Produced by Cromis N. Slitherford LINKS: Andy: Shubucorp.com Shua Bells: Bandcamp, Youtube, Instagram Jam: Etsy, Patreon, Instagram Sam: Instagram, Youtube

    Old Man Yells at Girl (1989's Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 28, 2022 38:18


    In this episode, Sam and Jam discuss a viewing experience that is legally a movie, put out in theaters, and starring a shape. However, it is mostly a sloshed Donald Pleasance yelling very closely at Danielle Harris. Edited and Produced by Andy Milad Music by Shua Bells Additional Music by Sam Welbel and Andy Milad Artwork by Jam Doughty Executive Produced by Cromis N. Slitherford LINKS: Andy: Shubucorp.com Shua Bells: Bandcamp, Youtube, Instagram Jam: Etsy, Patreon, Instagram Sam: Instagram, Youtube

    Return of the Michael (1988's Dwight Little's (Moustapha Akkad's) Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2022 35:47


    10 years after the original movie, Donald Pleasance reprises his role as Dr. Samuel Loomis. This movie is.... legally a film. listen to know what we mean! Edited and Produced by Andy Milad Music by Shua Bells Additional Music by Sam Welbel and Andy Milad Artwork by Jam Doughty Executive Produced by Cromis N. Slitherford LINKS: Andy: Shubucorp.com Shua Bells: Bandcamp, Youtube, Instagram Jam: Etsy, Patreon, Instagram Sam: Instagram, Youtube

    Big DAD Energy (1982's Tommy Lee Wallace's Halloween III: Season of the Witch) ft. Trevor McCulloch

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 24, 2022 39:25


    Episode 3! This convo is a hoot, and the audio quality is sub-optimal. But rest assured dear misophonic, it's quite listenable, AND the audio quality will only go up! Our special guest, Trevor is quite adept at discussing *film* We hope you enjoy! Edited and Produced by Andy Milad Music by Shua Bells Additional Music by Sam Welbel and Andy Milad Artwork by Jam Doughty Executive Produced by Cromis N. Slitherford LINKS: Andy: Shubucorp.com Shua Bells: Bandcamp, Youtube, Instagram Jam: Etsy, Patreon, Instagram Sam: Instagram, Youtube

    Revenge of the Shape ( 1981's Rick Rosenthal's Halloween II)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 17, 2022 37:21


    Episode 2! or should we say, II? This episode features Sam and Jam discussing how this movie is basically the first one, but more killing! Also at the beginning, Sam and Jam refer to the director as Rick RosenBERG, when in fact his last name is RosenTHAL. Sam would like to apologize to their Rabbi, David Allen Kensky for this grave semitic error. Edited and Produced by Andy Milad Music by Shua Bells Additional Music by Sam Welbel and Andy Milad Artwork by Jam Doughty Executive Produced by Cromis N. Slitherford LINKS: Andy: Shubucorp.com Shua Bells: Bandcamp, Youtube, Instagram Jam: Etsy, Patreon, Instagram Sam: Instagram, Youtube

    Hallow and Good Luck (1978's John Carpenter's Halloween)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 15, 2022 38:55


    The first episode back! In this series, Sam and Jam are off to watch every single Halloween Franchise movie, and this is the very beginning. NOTE: Sam's audio in this episode is distorted due to Michael Myers cutting the microphone cord.....jk Sam had the wrong settings... next episode will have much ~crispier~ audio. Edited and Produced by Andy Milad Music by Shua Bells Andy's links: shubucorp.com Jam's links: etsy, patreon, instagram Sam's links: instagram Music links: Bandcamp, Youtube, Instagram

    EP 29: One More THING

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 19, 2022 40:03


    Sam and Jam are back! The first viewing of The Thing since February!! And they're joined by Alex (@rosiecheeks_tattoo on instagram). Topics include growing extra heads, Sam losing their job, and Jam's trip to Califormula. You can find Alex here: https://www.instagram.com/rosiecheeks_tattoo/ You can find Jam here: https://www.instagram.com/wormyorchids/ You can find Sam here: https://www.instagram.com/freepooponlinedotgov/

    Episode 28: Mission Accomplished

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2022 111:25


    Well we did it. Everyone was fairly confident going in, but it's nice to know that it we did it. What lies here is an audio commentary track of Sam and Jam watching the movie and reflecting on the month. It's a fun time. We would like to thank all our guests who graciously spent their time watching and talking about this beautiful movie with us. It's a testament to friendship? to content? idk I gotta go to bed for a while

    Episode 27: Big Trouble in Little Chicago

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 28, 2022 32:15


    Live from Milwaukee, Sam and Jam watched the 1986's Big Trouble in Little China, another movie directed by John Carpenter and starring Kurt Russell...or is it??? We start off with yet another rebuttal from Carly. What does she have to say this time? and what rude comment does Sam have in response? listen to find out you freaks! leave me alone!!!

    Episode 26: This THING is TTOOOOOO LLLOONNGGG

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 27, 2022 51:56


    Tonight we have only one guest okay! One guest, his name is Ian, and he's the creator of the internet webshow, Neighbors. It's good, you should check it out. This is definitely the longest episode thus far, and the longest has yet to come. It's also the episode in which we talk about the movie the least??? IDK it's a good one imo. TOY DE JOUR PLEASE SPONSOR US. Ian's award winning webshow can be found here Buy some of Jam's art too, please, we would love to pay rent

    Episode 25: This THING can drive itself

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2022 24:56


    On today's episode, our dutiful hosts watch 1982's John Carpenter's The THING with the commentary featuring the film's Cinematographer, Dean Cundey. It's the first time rewatching the movie in over 2 days! What in the heck!?

    Episode 24: This THING is XXX Rated

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 25, 2022 29:52


    Tonight Sam and Jam watched a 1993 episode of X-Files called "Ice", which is pretty Thing-y. They are recording semi late for a SCHOOL night, so it's a little off the rails, but they did it in less than thirty, and that's what counts! Sam and Jam discuss cum spiders, whether it's okay to say cum spiders, and whether or not Bear is a big gruffly guy.

    Episode 23: This THING was okay i guess (w/Callie)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2022 36:46


    Today we watched 2011's The Thing, a Universal Picture, with our good friend Callie! It was nice to not watch the '82 movie for a day! who woulda thunk? Topics include: Covering up a fart with dropping a phone, and how these guys in the snow are so much less compelling than OUR guys in the snow, and Windahs, where were you!?

    Episode 21: This THING is starting to hurt a little! (w/Sid)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 22, 2022 26:09


    Today the guest is our good friend Sid! Topics include: watching the movie at 10am, Sam not going on a run with Sid, and the first acknowledgement that this month is also Black History Month. SEND REPARATIONS TO BLACK PEOPLE

    Episode 21: We have once again watched the THING (w/Eamon)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 22, 2022 31:41


    Tonight Jam and also Sam watched 1982's John Carpenter's The THING, and they were joined by Eamon! It was another day of watching it. Listen to know what we talked about, okay? Jeez

    Episode 20: We called this THING from the beginning!

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 21, 2022 31:27


    You know the drill, coffee is 200 bells a cup. And we were joined by our friend, the emotional one, I'm sure you're familiar. Topics include Jed the dog actor, and if MacReady is the THING!!!

    EPisode 19: WHo am I, the Title factory?

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 20, 2022 31:41


    This evening, Sam and Jam were joined by their friend and former co-habitant, Carly H.B. Newman. They all watched 1982's John Carpenter's The THING. It was a fun time. Topics include: Carly being a woman, and the explanation of the segments. ENJOY Carly's Ear Plug Earrings can be found here Jam's art can be found here and here

    Episode 18: This THING is bad!!!

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2022 30:10


    We watched 1951's The THING from another planet. It was bad. We didn't like it.

    Episode 17: Biting Social Commentary

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 18, 2022 29:20


    Today our hosts watched 1982's John Carpenter's The THING, with COMMENTARY from John Carpenter and Kurt Russell. It was informative! Topics include Topo Chico bottle whistling, and the various misadventures of one Mr. Dr. Editor Cromis J. N. Slitherford-Copper. Keep listening, pretty please $)

    Episode 16: The First Annual Dogscars (Dog Oscars) (w/Aim Ren Beland)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 17, 2022 27:48


    You get it, we watched 1982's John Carpenter's The THING. This time with our pal Aim! It was a great time, we talked about Jed, the dog actor, and if the THING is camp. Is it? text me, idk. ENJOY You can find Aim's wonderful illustrations online here, and also here You can find Jam's wonderful illustrations online here and also here You can find Sam's wonderful illustrations inside the lockbox of your heart. Just keep looking, you'll find it.

    Episode 15: This THING gets better with age (w/M)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 16, 2022 33:39


    Tonight we are joined by our friend M! Another night of watching the THING at the regular time felt so much less maddening! I wonder why!?! Topics include SPOILERS for Hunter x Hunter and The Eternals, and we once again, ponder if Childs is in fact, the THING!

    Episode 14: Good Morning, Mx. the THING

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 14, 2022 21:44


    ANOTHER episode? We're halfway through! Today, because of both scheduling and love, The non-brother roommate partners watched 1982's John Carpenter's The THING starting at 7:30am. Was it a good idea?? Is this whole endeavor a good idea?? You'll just have to listen to find out ;-)

    Episode 13: It's about Love, MacReady

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 14, 2022 27:39


    We didn't watch the THING today. Instead we watched the 2020 Netflix Comedy Eurovision Song Contest: The story of Fire Saga. Because, you know, Galentines and whatnot. Topics include: David Dobkin's filmography, Jam's disdain for all things Christmas, and how much of your day we're allowed to take up. Jam's art can be found on Etsy and Patreon pee pee poo poo

    Episode 12: Rated "Gnar" for Gnarly (w/ Maggie Wolf)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 13, 2022 29:30


    In this episode, Sam and Jam are joined by the intuitive Maggie Wolfe! She's the first guest who has listened to the show, which is a fun fact. Topics include Maggie's first viewing of The THING, dog acting, goop, gore, and more!

    Episode 11: That's a Crock of Stuff

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 12, 2022 30:10


    Most unhinged ep thus far? Simmmy and Jimmu are a little exhausted from a nonstop week of doing activities. Might be a fun ep though? for posteriety's sake at least. A weird intersection of doing well and not!

    Episode 10: A Viral Meat Sauna

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 11, 2022 30:11


    Sam and Jam are at it a-gam. You know the deal, they watched the movie from 1982, John Carpenter's The THING. Except this time, Sam was severely distracted and going through a toy crisis! well, not a crisis...that's a bit extreme, but toy related distress we'll say. Anyway, this is a fun one, tell your sponsors. Also, editor Cromis joined us briefly! Though he was mostly interested in Jam's sweatshirt.

    Episode 9: The Rise of Bort (w/Bart!)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2022 30:14


    The non-brothers finally land their biggest guest, Bart! They discuss how it's Bart's favorite movie and fashion inspiration! Other topics include Zooids, cover our regular segments, and how Sam and Jam went to Toy de Jour!

    Episode 8: THING Space (Eight) Nine

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 9, 2022 29:06


    We didn't watch The Thing. We watched an episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, titled, "Empok Nor." Topics include: Does this episode relate to the THING? It says that it does online, but does it? And Sam gives an opinionated list of John Carpenter movies. If you like the show, that's cool. Thanks for listening :-)

    Episode 7: We watched the THING again

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2022 25:38


    Sam and Jam are watching 1982's John Carpenter's The THING once again on a cold February night. They congratulate Editor Cromis on shedding another layer of skin, and discuss how good the movie is!

    Episode 6: There is no THING (Ft. Nona Bachtell)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 7, 2022 32:21


    Today we have our second guest, Nona! Also, we watched 1999's The Matrix! A landmark film from The Wachowskis that totally changed movies and entitled young men forever! Topics include: The Matrix as a trans narrative and a very extended outro about hyper-specific k-pop! Topics missed include: Why aren't more contemporary movies set and shot in Chicago!? and Whether or no there is a spoon. Nona is @Nonawiththefreckles Jam is Wormy Orchids Art on Etsy and Wormy Orchids on Patreon Sam is a dish best served hot on the outside, and ice cold on the inside

    Episode 5: Once more, with feelTHING (ft. Albert Welbel)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 6, 2022 30:09


    We're at it again for day 5 of THINGuary, or FebruTHINGy, depending on your perspective. Today's episode was recorded in Sam's childhood home, with our very first guest! The incomparable Albert Welbel! (No relation...jk) Sam's dad, Albs, joins us for a discussion of old movie theaters, watching a movie on a different TV, and more! You can follow Albert @Albs on twitter Jam's Art can be found at https://www.etsy.com/shop/WormyOrchidsArt, https://www.patreon.com/wormyorchids, and at various shops around Chicago You can follow Sam if you want, but you probably already know that

    Episode 4: The Book of THINGmaker

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 5, 2022 24:30


    IN THIS EPISODE JAM DESCRIBES FEEDING A MOUSE TO A SNAKE AND IF YOU DON'T WANNA HEAR THAT SKIP FROM 1:49-2:45. Other topics include attempting to track the THING as it moves from host to host, and questioning if it's okay to be antagonistic to a dog's instagram page.

    Episode 3: They aren't Labelled, Chum

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2022 24:12


    Today's episode is out earlier than ususal! Jam and Sam did a daytime watch of The THING, and boy howdy, this movie still fucking rocks. Topics include, working during work hours, and many audio stop downs due to technical difficulties. Unless someone wants to give us $130 for a new microphone, this is probably as good as it gets audio-wise. Luck my dink! ;-) 

    Episode 2: This Thing again?

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2022 29:19


    Today is Feb. 2 2022 and we watched 1982's John Carpenter's The THING. Topics include we know all their names! and We thank our sponsor, my loving parents! They're very supportive, we love them very much.

    Episode 1: Well we started!

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 2, 2022 22:11


    The first official ep! We're still experiencing audio difficulties and are working to improve it! suck a log!

    Episode 0: Bad News Everyone! We've started a podcast

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2022 28:02


    The baseline episode in which Sam and Jam set up their expectations for the coming show. THE AUDIO WILL IMPROVE. Thank you for your patience :-)

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