Podcast appearances and mentions of zach rubin

Three leading allergists, Drs. Farah Khan, Manisha Relan, and Zach Rubin, are sitting down with FAACT to share their perspectives regarding how patients can use social media to benefit them as they manage food allergies. We'll also explore how to avoid social media pitfalls and how to speak to your teen and young adult about navigating food allergies. Resources to keep you in the know:Follow Dr. Khan on Instagram & Threads: @farah.khan.allergy Follow Dr. Relan on Instagram & Threads: @pedsallergymdFollow Dr. Rubin on Instagram, TikToK, & Threads: @rubin_allergyFollow Dr. Rubin on You Tube and Blue SkyAmerican Academy of Food Allergy Asthma and Immunology (AAAAI)American College of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology (ACAAI)You can find FAACT's Roundtable Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Pandora, Spotify, Podbay, iHeart Radio, or wherever you listen to podcasts.Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, BlueSky, Threads, LinkedIn, Pinterest, TikTok, and YouTube.Sponsored by: The American College of Allergy Asthma and Immunology (ACAAI) Thanks for listening! FAACT invites you to discover more exciting food allergy resources at FoodAllergyAwareness.org!

In this insightful episode, Alan Pentz interviews Zach Rubin, the founder of Professional Book Club Guru. Zach shares the fascinating journey of bootstrapping and evolving his business from a simple office book club to a multi-million dollar operation. They dive deep into innovative service models, growth strategies, opportunities, and challenges along the way.

Zach Rubin is back on the podcast to share more details about how his time as a trader led him to success, but not at all in the way he imagined it would. Instead of learning how to pull cash out of thin air—as Zach describes his fantasy of the trading world—with successful thousand-dollar-a-day trades, he actually lost money. His losses led him to seek coaching from experienced traders, including Agnieszka. It was the powerful mind-shift methods that Agnieszka uses that led to Zach's comeback career.Zach credits his learning experience as a trader to his success as a business owner. Without learning to completely shift and reframe his mindset, he would never have developed the confidence to take the leap of faith to build the thriving business he has now. Zach's biggest advice to new traders is to treat the profession as an athlete. Train consistently and hire a renowned coach like Agnieszka Wood. Zach hopes that listeners interested in trading learn from their mistakes and hire a coach right away rather than waiting until they fail to ask for help. And for those who decide trading is not their life's passion, hopefully, his story of success provides inspiration. About Zach RubinZach Rubin is a successful entrepreneur, Architectural Designer, and Owner of Foundry House in Greater Atlanta. Zach discovered his passion for architecture while at Penn State University, where he excelled in drafting and architectural design. He continued his education at the Georgia Institute of Technology, graduating with a Masters from the College of Architecture.  Zach's interest in trading was sparked during the COVID-19 wave and he started trading the Nasdaq and S&P Futures. After many ups and downs on his trading journey and making an incredible leap in his personal growth, he was able to achieve his long awaited dream. —Contact Agnieszka Wood | Ahead Coach: Website: aheadcoach.comTwitter: @Ahead_CoachYouTube: @aheadcoachFacebook: Agnieszka WoodInstagram: ahead.coachLinkedIn: Agnieszka WoodContact Zach Rubin | Foundry House Design: Website: foundryhousedesign.comPinterest: @foundaryhousedesign--TranscriptAgnieszka 0:00 So today, my guest is Zach Rubin who you might remember from the very first episode of the Confidence in Trading podcast. Zach is a business owner, a husband and a father of two and a few weeks ago he shared with us the beginnings and the juicy details of his trading journey.After many ups and downs and making an incredible leap in his personal growth, he was able to achieve his long awaited dream. And today he came back to tell us the rest of his story. And I can tell you that this is going to be good! So, stay tuned! And if you haven't listened to the first episode yet, I strongly recommend you to do it, so you get the full picture!Agnieszka 0:56Hi, Zach. Welcome back!Zach  0:57 Hi, Agnieszka, thank you for having me.Agnieszka 0:59Last time we talked about how much work and effort you have put into making trading work for you. And how challenging it was especially on the emotional level. So, can you tell us how did your journey develop?Zach  1:13  I had a boss at one point. And we were driving to a retreat, which was a few hours away. And I just happened to be the one that was in the car with him. It was us two together, which was a bit of a, it was a good moment, right? Because I was able to kind of like, speak to somebody who was my superior in a confined space for a long time. And we got to the conversation of like, well, what do you want to do with kind of the, you know, what's your goals? What are your plans, and I kind of brought up to him, I said, "Well, I really wish I could have been, I really wish I could do architecture, you know, I mean, I just love construction and buildings." And I've worked in the construction fields. In fact, the company I was working for with this person, I was a facilities manager. So I was in charge of properties, and that required me to have a strong understanding of building systems and construction practices and whatnot, because I was constantly working alongside those people to to keep various properties around the country in operation. And I remember the boss, as he was talking, he said, "Well," he's like, "I'm sorry to tell you this Zach. But I think the boats, the boat has sailed for you on that." Because I was, you know, I'm in my late 30s have already gone to grad school. I didn't have a degree in any of this. But I had degrees that were associated with it just not the exact thing, right. So I kind of like, and this is something that I think I've had through my life anyway, when somebody tells me I can't do it, I suddenly get this gumption to say I'm gonna prove that person wrong. Right? It's just my nature. Agnieszka  2:29  So, so familiar. Zach  2:31  Yeah, so um, you know, I was kind of listening when I'm like it just like, I mean, it rang in my head for days that like, "I think the boat has sailed for you on this, I think the boat has sailed." I mean, it was like a montage of just like his face saying this to me over and over and over again. And it man did it wear on me. And shortly after that, I kind of made the decision to pursue a different career for a different company in, that would bring me closer to that goal. So I started applying to jobs to be an architectural designer, which you don't necessarily have to have an education in. But you have to have a skill set in. And because I had so much experience working in construction and everything else and had a graduate degree in design, industrial design, which is product design. I felt like, "Hmm, okay, let's take a chance." So I started applying to jobs that were for an architectural designer. And lo and behold, I ended up getting one and I interview really well. So it went really great. And I started working as a architectural designer for a company. And then I got furloughed because of COVID. And that's ultimately what kind of led me into the trading thing. But that experience is what sort of was my first foot into this into this arena. And then it wasn't until after I'd, I was coming off a furlough, I was looking for a new job about to take another architectural design job. And I get a call from an old boss who I'd worked with before in construction. And he's like, "Hey," he's like, "I need somebody to help me out, blah, blah, blah." And I'm like, "Look, I'm about to sign a contract to work for this other company." And he said, "Well," he's like, "the pay is not going to be as much, we're not going to be able to give you any of the benefits that this other company will. But you..." at the time I was trading. And he's, I said, he said, "but I'll let you have as much time as you want to do your trading just as long as you get the job done." And so I was like "Done, I'll take it," even though it like literally was 25,000, maybe 30,000 less in salary per year it was it was with a company I'd worked for in the past. So to some degree, I felt like I was moving, I was still I was falling backward, right? I wasn't progressing, I was moving backwards. But I took the risk because I wanted to continue trading. And then that position ultimately led me into the new opportunity of the partners there, that company decided that they wanted to create a new company to do interior design and cabinetry. And they said, We want to make you a partner .I was like "I'll take it, I'll do it." This was like the opportunity suddenly comes and this was right in January of last year. So this was right when we were still working together. But it was about the three quarter mark or so of our program together. And so it was like suddenly like oh my god, I have the possibility to be part owner in this new business. So I take it. Then one of the other partners, for the reason why he was a partner was because he had broken out, broken up with a partnership he had with another company that did architectural design. So now I said well, why don't we just do architectural design here in this company, since I have an interest in it and you have the experience for it. Let's just do it. So we started doing architectural design and I started learning how to put plans together and I already had the construction knowledge now it was just a matter of learning the software to do the actual, you know, architectural plans. So we started doing that. And about 10 months, or no not even, eight months into that partnership. Partnership with four people can be a little bit challenging and it definitely causes some friction and when everyone wants to be a leader, you know, it's not always going to work out. So one thing led to another and, and the decision was made that I would take a third of that business, the architectural component of that business and just take it off their hands, I created my own business with it, the amount of confidence that it took me for sure to decide in that moment, like, Okay, I'm going to leave the security of a job, I'm going to, I'm going to release my my shares of this partnership that, for all intents and purposes, was looking like it was going to be very successful. And I'm going to instead just do something that I'm not going to own 100% of, but there is no guarantee that I'm successful at this, and there's no going back. It's not like I can be like, oh, sorry, actually, can I get back into that partnership that ain't gonna happen. So I take the leap of faith, I start my own firm. And because of the network that I developed over the course of time, and the confidence that the newfound confidence that I had, and mindset, money, mindset, all of it, we just hit the ground running. And from... this is August of last year, until today, the company has brought in, I mean, hundreds of thousands in revenues, we've had over 30 customers, we've I've now I'm now designing people's houses that from scratch, like new construction, I mean, just you know, somebody calls me up, hey, we want to add on a piece of land, we want to build a house and I'm like, sure we can help you with that. So and you know, this is all from somebody that never went to architecture school, right and always wanted to and and honestly, like I said, previously, when I was in school, I wanted to go that path but didn't have the confidence to pursue it. So still, life has brought me back to this moment. And I honestly credit, the fact that I spent that time working on my mindset and my confidence because of trading. That ultimately is what resulted in this outcome. And for that, and I'm thankful and grateful for it, even if I never trade again.Agnieszka  7:24  That's a wonderful story. Thank you so much for sharing it, because it also shows how the universe has a plan, in a way,and kind of brings things onto your path. And all you need to do is just take it. Just take it and do it and you know, don't resist it. Sometimes it might be challenging, sometimes it might require confidence. But eventually if you do follow your your dream, because it was your dream at some point, right? You wanted to, you knew what you wanted to do. And there was not... trading wasn't as strong as that path. Right?Agnieszka  8:08  I remember when we started working. You were saying, "Yea, this is always what I always wanted to do."Zach  8:10  Yeah, exactly. Like if I was still trading today, I would possibly be still dreaming about being an architect and doing architectural design. Right. I mean, there's no doubt. So it's a, it is a remarkable thing of how it kind of worked out. And I don't think it was by accident. I think that this this ultimately happened because of the positions I put myself in because of the work that we did. And it you know, it's hindsight, they say "Hindsight is 20/20" but I think that you can look back on things and real and also make the realization that I would not be the person today capable of achieving that success. And literally getting to the place I always want it to be if it weren't for the steps that I took previously. And I think anyone is... I think this is possible for anybody, regardless of what, whether it's trading you want or something else, I think the important thing is, is to learn and know yourself. That's probably the number one thing even before you trade, try to spend time figuring out who you are, what you like, what drives you, what are your motivating factors, and not be afraid to pursue the things that maybe the boat has sailed on, or that you perceive the boat has sailed on. Because there's, there's no, that's only what somebody else may say, that's not necessarily the reality for you. You don't have to let it be the reality for you.Agnieszka  9:27  Yeah, yeah, totally. And that's, that's what I always call a strong "Why". You need to have a strong "Why." Why are you doing things? Why are they important to you. You have a vision. You have a mission in your life, because all those things will contribute to where you put your energy and effort and wherever you put your energy into that will give you the results. So after you went through this whole process, and you got through your emotional journey, how did the trading change for you?Zach  10:04  So, um… Agnieszka  10:07  Or I should say maybe how did trading change your life at that moment. What happened?Zach  10:12  What happened? Yeah, so what I came to realize, I think was that... At first it gave me confidence in who I am. It gave me a better grounding. In that kind of money mindset, the manifesting success type of thing. I worked on that a lot more I started to visualize and understand like, you know what, what's possible for me what's the future gonna hold. But ultimately, it resulted in me taking a major step away from trading. As much as I love the idea of trading, as much as I love the potential of what it has to offer to you. And the freedom that comes along with that, I slowly began to realize, while I took a break, like I should say, I first took a break more from a position of necessity, because if I continued down the path that I was just going to continue either revenge trading, or I was going to continue to, you know, just build this, this monster out of it, right? This thing that I'm constantly trying to overcome and really struggling to, to do so. And so I needed to take a break from it, because it just even through all the work that I've done, it just wasn't clicking as much as I wanted it to. So I take a take a step back. And through that break is really, I think, where I came to some new conclusions, which was that the work that I done working on my mindset, and all of that started to change my life outside of trading far more than it actually changed my life in trading. And that resulted in opportunity, new opportunities coming up in life and in business. And the way that I approached those opportunities changed because of this newfound sense of calm and this newfound sense of confidence, such that I was able to not only, I think, attract those opportunities, but I was able to capitalize on those capital opportunities. And now that I'm, I've not been trading now for, what, almost a year? Has it been that long? When did we Yeah,Agnieszka  12:14  Actually, you finished the program last year, end of January.Zach  12:18  End of January. Wow. So it's been over a year. Yeah, exactly. So, I ended up, so I put trading on pause, which was supposed to be a temporary pause and it turned into a more permanent pause. Partially because the rest of life started to improve, other than I had new, a new job opportunities, partnership opportunities with businesses that I was involved in, and then those partnership opportunities ultimately turned into me starting my own business, and ultimately creating the exact life I wanted. It just didn't involve trading. So who knew, right? And, you know, surprise, I ended up not becoming a trader. Now, I still carry the dream inside of me, if I'm being honest with you, I still think about trading periodically. I actually, at some point in the last year, I invested in a different trading platform that was making use of different type of chart style was a few $100. You know, I gave it a shot because I was like, kind of trying to keep the dream alive. The reality is, though, is that because of all these other successes outside of trading, my life has gotten so busy and so full that trading is become something that is almost unrealistic at this point. It's funny, because I'm like, my Work calendar, I still block out an hour and a half every morning from nine from nine o'clock till 10:30 for trading, it still says trading and every day I see a pop up on my calendar, like traded reading time. But I don't I don't trade because I have so much going on with all of these other businesses that I'm working on. And the success that I'm seeing in these areas is so rewarding to me, possibly more rewarding the trading ever would have been even though trading might have certainly how to become truly successful at it would have no doubt awarded me far more income. I mean, I'm still doing better than I ever have. But I mean compared to trading, which has massive upside potential. It's it's not even a comparison. But the value that I'm getting from the businesses that I own, and the the confidence that I'm building in myself, because I'm not only owning my own company and doing incredible work for the customers that I have and the product that we create. It's fulfilled me in ways that I think trading, I don't know the trading ever would have because at the end of the day, yes, being good trader will give you a lot of confidence and a lot of gratification, especially when you get to spend that money and drive around in your Lambo. But it's like it's the difference between being really good at something and being proud of that versus creating something that's much bigger than yourself that maybe has the potential to live beyond you. And I think that's where I'm at right now in life is I got this business, we do architectural design for customers, and it's related to the industry that I was had started in years ago, but have kind of worked my way into this new place and have a business now that is you know, doing doing incredible and is awarded me not only the freedom that I wanted, I mean to some extent I mean, like I spend an hour and a half working a day and then spend the rest of the day spending my money. It's more so that I have the freedom that I don't have a boss. I don't have a... if I want to take a vacation, I can take as much time as I want to as long as the work is still getting done. So, I, I've been able to capture a lot of these things that I think I always wanted. And I think that this experience of trading, struggling to learn how to trade working through my mindset and my confidence, and then coming out the other side, only to realize that maybe trading isn't exactly what I want to do with my life has still created the life that I ultimately wanted. And it's a remarkable thing.Agnieszka  15:45  Congratulations, I'm really so happy to hear that. And you know, I exactly remember the moment when it all started to kind of show itself in your life, all these opportunities, and the moment where you came and you said, this is incredible. And, you know, I got this offer to become a partner, and then things just started to roll from there, and you're so much more grounded and confident to actually go for it. And you know, not question it, but just take what the universe was giving you. Zach  16:21  When you you know, the, a lot of the work that we did together ultimately helped me to learn how to manifest the future I wanted the life I wanted. And trading is sort of a means to an end to some degree, it's a, it's a, something that you do to be able to make a ton of money so that then you can enjoy life, right? It's one of the it's like a step on the path to your actual goal, which is to gain freedom or financial wealth, or private jet or whatever. But most people who I see who end up trading, ultimately don't do it for the rest of their lives. They do it for a part of their life, maybe they build a bunch of capital, but they almost always either invest that money wisely, create passive streams of income, buy businesses that they operate, and it ultimately becomes a means to an end. It's rare that you find somebody who gets into trading and it becomes their lifestyle, their life and their business. And that's all they do. You know, there are definitely people like that and all the power to them, if you can, you know, I always equated trading to like, it's as if there's a stream of money that's floating above your head in this cloud. And if you're good enough at it, you can just reach up and just grab stacks of cash, just like just grabbing stacks of cash. It's unbelievable. That was the thing that ultimately attracted me to it. I used to say that all the time, like it's magic. It's like money magic, right? And that's great. But the fulfillment end of it, you know, yeah, it's you and the computer. And I think for me now, like I have this business, I've got, now, ambitions that are like, wow, what if I create this business and open up different cities, and I'm able to start building a much bigger brand. I mean, I just the other day bought the web address for my business for $2,000. I never thought I would buy a website, even my wife is like you spent how much on what? On like, something you can't even hold. And I'm like, Yeah, I know, it sounds crazy. But, and like, the me a year and a half ago, if you said like Zach, a year and a half from now you're gonna spend two grand on a URL, I'd be like, there's no way, like, who makes a decision like that? And now I'm doing it with like, not only like, this is an obvious no brainer, because this is how I, I'm going to, you know, launch myself into this new direction with this business to turn it more into a brand and more into a, into a larger company that that maybe one day I can sell for, you know, 10 or $20 million, maybe, I mean, that's sort of, that's where my head's at now. Whereas before, it was just, you got to learn how to trade so you can make three grand a day or whatever. And now it's like, you know, these new horizons that have I've never thought of before, and it's a different experience, but I'm so grateful for the fact that I got involved in trading, not only to learn about markets and learn about trading is just a as a skill set. And as a technical element of it, it's been, it's been educational in so many other ways. But also, more so really, that mindset, self control, discipline, all of that is connected, you know, and it's affected me not only in the sense of, of my career and business and all that but it's affected me in my health, I've changed the food I eat, I have more confidence in and more confidence in my level of discipline that I can attain for myself. And you know, I mean, I'm, I've lost weight, I've increased my salary I've been, I'm building a machine now like a business that has the potential to grow and expand for the future. My family life is better, you know, I'm able to work from home all the time now. So I get to see my kids multiple times a day, but sometimes it's too much because they're, they're five and two. So, you know, once I see them, I can't like pry them off me so I can get back to work. But I get to be with them a lot. And I don't have to go into an office anymore. And this is all tremendous. You know, this is I have the life I want because of trading, but ironically, it did not include trading. So.Agnieszka  20:07  Yes, that is wonderful. That's pretty amazing that you actually, you can say you achieved that with trading, but not with the money you made from trading.Zach  20:20  So in a way it still was a means to an end. It just wasn't the end I had in mind. So I think it's important, I think, as people listening to this, is, first, do your best to try to be a good trader, right? Do do take all those steps because I wouldn't have what I have, if I didn't go through all the steps, right? I wouldn't, I wouldn't be where I am, had I given up on trading, I'd probably be still working a nine to five in some office somewhere with a boss who I couldn't stand and the freedom I didn't have, right. So I'm glad that I went through that process. And, you know, I invested a lot into it, not only the money that I ultimately lost in the market, but the money I spent on great coaches and, and books and things to read. And that was all part of the part of the plan in a way, you know, and it ultimately got me to where I am now. So I recommend that you still focus on that. But most of all, focus on your mindset. Because even if trading doesn't work out, your mindset is something that changes, the rest changes you for the rest of your life. And having that experience will is fundamental, it will fundamentally change who you are and how you interact and the people you surround yourself with and, and that ultimately relates to the kind of success that you'll have, whether it's in trading or not. So pursue it. Regardless, just be careful. Don't put all your eggs in one basket, be willing. And I think also you mentioned this, be willing to see the trading might not be for you. But still, don't be depressed about it still see the value. And this took me some time to kind of like get here to still see the value of that experience. Because it's very easy to fall into that despair, once you make that final decision. Like, okay, I'm putting down the, I'm putting it down, I'm not trading anymore, you will feel that overwhelming wave of I am a complete failure. I've wasted how much money you know, and you start doing the math it becomes depressing. But just know, yeah, it's not the end of the story. You know, you can continue on and the skills and mindset, you know, that you've now developed over the course of this has truthfully changed your capability for success.Agnieszka  22:20  So in a way it is, it is realizing your dream, not necessarily a dream to trade, which again, not many people have a dream to trade, but they just want to realize their dream. But then somehow it gets all mixed up into “my dream is to make money.” That's where it goes south.Zach  22:37  There was a moment when... I want to explain what it felt like to finally make it to the to the point of success, because this is I think the part that keeps people's dreams fueled, right in the same way that sometimes some of the content on YouTube regarding trading, sometimes alludes to. There was a moment where you know that like when you're like a the the idea, the image I get in my head is like when you're a kid and you're looking through the glass window of a storefront and you see maybe it's a toy, or, you know, cakes and pastries or something that you just can't you want to want to have. Yeah, but maybe you're you're you don't have the money, you don't have, you know, the means whatever, for whatever reason, you can't access what's on the other side of the glass. And there was a moment when, you know, my wife and I were sitting down at night, and it was after we'd created the business and we started seeing some initial success in the first few months. Like in the first three months, I think we already had, you know, 15 projects or something. And we'd already collected $100,000 or something and just a few months and it was just like wow, like this is incredible. And we were actually paying ourselves like salaries that were greater than ever before and, and doing all that and I remember looking at my wife and I said it just like struck me and it just I just said to her, I said "I'm on the other side of the glass." I said "that's what I feel like I'm on the other side of the glass for the first time right I'm there, I'm there. I've got it in my hands like the freedom that I always wanted. The ownership of my own means of resources is now there. I have it all, right? I've gotten there, I've got I've made it to the other side of the glass." And I mean, I started crying for us, because I was just like, oh my god, like, I've been wanting this for so long for so many years. And, and here I am, you know, and that feeling, it just washes over you and you just feel like, wow, there it is that, you know, all of those years of struggling all those years of uncertainty, they're finally here. So keep that in your mind. Agnieszka  24:39  You gave me goosebumps.Zach  24:42  Yeah, I know, well, it's powerful. Because it's, we all have that I think we all have those things in life that we want to, that we dream about, whether it's trading or not, there's all this dream of what life could be. That's the dream is always seemingly on the other side of the glass. But one day, you do make it there. If you play your cards, right, and you work on yourself in the right ways, and you keep pursuing the opportunities as they come, you'll get there. And when you do, you'll find yourself on the other side of the glass. And the feeling is remarkable. And it doesn't mean that everything becomes easy all at once. In fact, maybe your stresses are greater and you've got more responsibilities. Now I've got mouths to feed, right? I've got employees who are relying on me to continue the business and to grow it so that they can also see success in their lives. And that's a tremendous amount more, you know, stress and things to worry about and concerns. But I'm so grateful for, for the fact that I'm here, able to do what I'm doing and to have to have access to those things that I've created.Agnieszka  25:43  Tell me. Tell me with all the responsibility that you have now do you have more sleepless nights than when you had when the trading wasn't working out?Zach  25:52 Great question. So in addition to working on mindset, and other things, I've also worked on my health and my sleeping abilities and stuff, you know, my wife is really has a lot of she has a lot of responsibility on this for me, because she pushes me, it's almost like I have a full time coach as a wife, because she's constantly getting me to focus on on on these other things and constantly pushing me toward getting new coaching. Like I'm currently with a coach right now for fitness and nutrition. Like and, you know, I just, I think part of it too, is because of all the experiences I've had working with you and other coaches, it's made me realize, like, there's nothing better than having a good mentor and a good coach to work with on anything that you might be tackling. And so yeah, so I'm working through that. And so I'm sleeping better, maybe, maybe not so much because I have less stress, I think I actually probably have more stress in my life, different kinds of stress. But I'm sleeping better because I've worked on those things worked on habits and I've also worked on or I should say, having, knowing that I've attained those things that I've wanted to do already gives me some peace, right to know that like, Okay, now I've kinda like I've gotten onto the track I've always wanted to be on now it's just the journey, and enjoy that ride and keep going forward and see where it takes you. The mindset work is everything, you know, it really is because you cannot be successful without adjusting your mind. It's, it's everything, it's the beginning and end of every moment is your, is in your mind. And you know, and your emotions are very heavily connected to that as well. I think that trading was a much more emotional thing for me than my current businesses. I don't have that kind of same emotional roller coaster, though I do have moments and days where I've got a really difficult customer or we've got a deadline that we're about to miss and I feel really bad about it. And you know, or if we get sometimes we get comments back from the permit offices about our plans, and I feel a little bit like shattered because it's like, man, like I'm trying to sell that we've got really good plans that are going to, you know, be very thorough and good. And to still get comments back from a permit office. It's like kind of like, it's like getting a test paper back from a school teacher and it's got a big, like, D-minus on it, you're like, gosh, you know, no, they're supposed to believe that I'm an A+ student, not a D- student. Right. So there's a little bit of that, but it's not the same as the emotional rollercoaster of trading because trading is just these ups and downs. And you know, and the other thing and we didn't really talk about this and and maybe one day in the future, but you know, the emotional side of it that resulted in some serious darkness, right and some serious like self doubt. And that's the part where looking back on it. I think it makes perfect sense that trading is maybe not right for me, like I don't know that I had the right mentality for it or the sensibility for it. But I do, I do have the right mentality and sensibility for what I'm doing right now. Like, like in you know, in spades, right? I mean, I've got the level of trust that I can build with people when I'm first talking about their homes and about the ideas that I have about their struck the structure or whatever. I know that a lot of why I'm being successful here is not just because of the network I've created, but also because of the, of my sales ability, right? My ability to kind of like meet people where they're at and speak to them about their home and not only give them ideas that they never would have thought of but also give them a confidence that Oh, this guy knows what He's talking about and he's, I'm gonna be safe with him. You know, as I joked one time with one of the contractors I work with, I'm like, I must have a trustworthy face because people people keep wanting to buy from me. But it's it's true, it goes a long way to be able to do that. And I wouldn't have that, that I wouldn't have that opportunity to use those sides of myself. If I was just sitting behind a trading computer all day.Agnieszka  29:37  The face wouldn't help there, no matter how friendly.Zach  29:40  No, yeah, so I think it's really, I'm really grateful for where I'm at now. And even if, even though I still, I mean, even still, there's still this little shred of hope that maybe one day I'll get back.Agnieszka  29:55  So, what is that little hope? Like? Hope for what? That you will find time or that you will make it work, what is it? Because you know, that part when you stop trading and you say, "Oh, I invested it." So, because that's what a lot of people say, "I invested so much money, I cannot stop now." But if you think about it like, you throw it away-that's one thing. But if you think "I have learned all these things, so I didn't really waste it. Right now I'm just taking the lessons with me." So, what is that hope?Zach  30:24  Yeah. So, well, first off, you were talking about the gamblers dilemma, right, which is like you've put so much you've invested so much money in something so much time and energy and effort that you feel like you can't, you cannot give it up now because like you've just, to throw it all away right? So, that's where that initial wave of like, dissatisfaction and disappointment and anger really comes into play. But it's a, I think, for me, it's also like, there's an element of I don't like to leave a stone unturned. Like I this is something I went out and tried to do, and I still want to be successful at it, you know, there's a little bit of that it's almost like a self-contest. But it's also because there is a, there is a glamour to that lifestyle that, like, even owning my own business and being successful as I am, I just am not... you don't get the same kind of level of like, "Oh, I have the ability to magically pull money out of the air, like whenever I want it." I mean, you know, my former coach, who I worked with prior to you, he still does it nice. Occasionally we'll see a clip of him doing something online on YouTube. And I'll just see, like, you know, he's like, you know, even sometimes I just see the title on his on the thumbnail, and it's like, $6,300 in the first 18 minutes. And it's just like, that's crazy, you know, that's so much money. And like, so that still works on me a little bit. But you know, at some level, that's a little like the Pavlovian dog, right? It's like a little bit of the bell ringing in me, like my mouth starting to drool, right? Like, that's really what's happening there is that I'm seeing this, somebody who's like, able to has that ability to just manifest this money right out of thin air. And it's magical. And there's part of me that still like is attracted to that. But I think a lot of it is that kind of psychological thing where you're just like, "Man, wouldn't it be amazing if I could just, you know, drill up some money like that, and go buy a brand new car." I mean, you know, the business I have now as much as I love it, and it's great. It's definitely a longer trajectory. I mean, I'm making a good living and but it's, it's not like we're not talking $6,000 a day, you know, that's, that's a different thing. And maybe one day, if I build this machine to some crazy thing, I've got multiple cities I'm doing maybe I've captured the whole Southeast, and doing plans in multiple states, I've got partners in various cities, maybe then I sell it for millions of dollars, right? I kind of mentioned that before. Great, that would be that would be awesome. If I can do that, then awesome. And that's sort of where my focus is now on it. But um, you know, there's still something magical about just being able to reach up and grab money out of thin air, right, like right through the computer screen. You know?Agnieszka  32:56  I sometimes wish that there was no videos like that. Yeah, you know that because it really creates such a wrong picture of what trading is, and brings a lot of people into trouble. And I always see, you know, coaching people as urgency because they have those dreams that they want to achieve, and then take their money... and they take their money and they put it into an account and then they lose it. And then now they're further from the dream that there were even before. And that's where I feel so much urgency of, you know, helping them.Zach  33:34  You know, when, when I remember, I was sitting in the car, and I sent you a voice message because I traded that day. And it was after our work together. And I had... it was like, I was doing pretty good for a couple weeks or something or maybe a week and a half, and then I had one real bad day where I just blew up my account. I was it was all simulated, but it was still I think I blew up my trading, you know, the gauntlet thing, right? And I send you a voice message and I was like, you know, man, like I don't know, this is so frustrating, whatever. And you, your response to me was, I don't remember exactly what you said. But it was something like take a break. It's okay, you know, and you gave me permission in a lot of ways to like, let it go for a little bit, I didn't realize at that moment that I was really letting it go for a much longer period of time. And, you know, like I said, Since then I've gotten back and I did a little bit more sim-trading, I had a new platform I was trying to get working and stuff. But, you know, as I guess, got busier and busier with the business, it became less and less of a reality to keep focusing on it, you know, and at some point, I just the stuff for the business became so big and important for me to focus on that I just really don't have time to trade is where I'm at now, but you know, that you gave me not only confidence through the trading course, but you also gave me confidence to to let go of it too, which was, maybe the more important part, you know, and so to what you're speaking to, that, you know, about helping people trade and stuff, part of what you're, you're doing, as well as helping people to realize that it may not be for you. But that doesn't mean it's the end of the world, you know, that doesn't mean that it's that all is lost, that you're you have the ability to take these skills and whatnot and transition it into something else. And that's possibly more important than just teaching somebody to become a successful trader. Because the reality is, I mean, being a successful trader is almost akin to being a professional athlete like that, you know, 99% of people fail at being a professional athlete. And most because they're not even capable of it, at least with sports, you kind of recognize if you're out of shape, or, you know, if you're only five foot three, and you wanna play basketball, it ain't gonna happen. But, you know, if you're a, you know, with trading, it's a little bit harder to see that because you it seemingly, anybody can do it. But the reality is, there's I think a very narrow spectrum of human beings that, where trading comes naturally and an even when the that's a very narrow spectrum, and maybe a slightly wider spectrum of people that if they do the right work, they can become good at it, you know?Agnieszka  35:59  That's a great metaphor by comparison, by the way, because when you want to become a professional athlete, you will definitely get a coach, right? People get into trading, and they think they can do it on their own. Or maybe they will read a few books and watch some YouTube videos, and then they become a professional trader. Isn't that interesting?Zach  36:18  Yeah, I know. And in fact, look at thinking back on it. I am shocked at how like silly it is to even believe and that I fell for that. Right. I mean, it's like, if there's anything I failed, that it was not seeing the forest for the trees in that way. But I'm still grateful for the experience. And, you know, sometimes you have to learn those lessons the hard way, but I don't, again, I don't consider any of my time trading as wastefulness. Like, yes, it was a lot of money. I mean, there was a lot of money lost 10 plus maybe 15 plus thousand dollars. And that's that was a lot for me at the time, especially. But it's, it was well worth the education, it was well worth the mindset shifts, and I wouldn't be where I am today, if it weren't for that. So it's, you know, it's all it's all good. Agnieszka  36:57Thank you so much Zach. I hope that showing that there can be many different ways that trading contributes to your life, was beneficial to all of you who are listening and maybe even release some pressure that many of you might feel every day at the trading desk.”Zach  37:15Sort of imagine what it must be like from your perspective, because like, obviously, we we chat here and there, but not often, maybe not as often as we should. It's sort of like when you when you see a relative, like a child who's growing up and then like you see them a few years later, like, Oh my God, you've turned into a man, you know, it's sort of the same sort of the same thing. Like, you know, that you've kind of gotten like these snapshots of my success story. And yeah, it's pretty cool. And I'm grateful to have the opportunity to share that with with others just because I you know, I'm proud of it. But also, I know what it felt like to be there on the other side, the other side of the glass, you know, and it makes me, I know that I always was fueled by those kinds of inspirational things, you know, and even though I'm not even where I really want to be eventually…Agnieszka  38:02  You are an inspiration already. Zach  38:04Yes, exactly. And even an inspiration to myself because there's some days that I look at what what what's how this is all formed in just a short amount of time and I'm, I find it remarkable. So, if I find it remarkable, maybe others do too.Agnieszka  38:16  Well, that brings us to the end of this episode. Thank you so much Zach, for joining us. Zach  38:22It's been a pleasure speaking to you again and spending so much time with you. I cherish it. So, thank you.Agnieszka  38:28 Thank you so much for listening to the Confidence in Trading Podcast. If you enjoyed my show, please rate and review it on Apple podcasts. And be sure to subscribe, so you can come back for a real conversation in the next episode. Until then, this is Agnieszka Wood from Ahead Coach. And don't forget you too can realize your dream without losing yourself and your confidence in the process. Contact Agnieszka Wood | Ahead Coach: Website: aheadcoach.comTwitter: @Ahead_CoachYouTube: @aheadcoachFacebook: Agnieszka WoodInstagram: ahead.coachLinkedIn: Agnieszka WoodYou can email me at launchyourlife@aheadcoach.com

Agnieszka has a real conversation with Zach Rubin about his journey into the world of trading. They discuss how he got started, what he expected in the beginning, and the valuable lessons he has learned along the way. Zach's biggest takeaways include developing your mindset as a trader, not just your technical skills, and learning how to fail productively. These two insights are key to finding lasting success and enjoyment in trading. In their conversation, Zach answers Agnieszka's questions about how he got started in trading and what inspired him in the beginning. They talk openly about how trading has lived up to his expectations, and more. While money and freedom are the initial drivers for most people who start trading, the reason people stay often surprises them. For Zach, in the end, success in trading is not really a destination but a mindset. Learning how to trade well can help you learn more about yourself and your potential, not just as a trader, but also as a person. About Zach RubinZach Rubin is a successful entrepreneur, Architectural Designer, and Owner of Foundry House in Greater Atlanta. Zach discovered his passion for architecture while at Penn State University, where he excelled in drafting and architectural design. He continued his education at the Georgia Institute of Technology, graduating with a Masters from the College of Architecture.  Zach's interest in trading was sparked during the COVID-19 wave and he started trading the Nasdaq and S&P Futures. After many ups and downs on his trading journey and making an incredible leap in his personal growth, he was able to achieve his long awaited dream. —Contact Agnieszka Wood | Ahead Coach: Website: aheadcoach.comTwitter: @Ahead_CoachYouTube: @aheadcoachFacebook: Agnieszka WoodInstagram: ahead.coachLinkedIn: Agnieszka WoodContact Zach Rubin | Foundry House Design: Website: foundryhousedesign.comPinterest: @foundaryhousedesign—TranscriptAgnieszka  0:00  I am very excited to have Zach here today with us who is going to share his trading journey that started very typical, but took many unexpected turns, and in the end, brought him exactly what he wanted, but not at all what he expected. We'll discuss all the difficult choices and decisions that he had to make and how he approached them. So let's get started. Hi, Zach, and welcome to the Confidence in Trading podcast.Zach  0:29  Hi, Agnieszka, thank you for having me.Agnieszka  0:31  Thank you for being here with us. The reason why most people like you and I get into trading is because they have a dream. Trading is supposed to provide them with means to realize their dream, but what many people do not realize is that their dream has nothing to do with trading. Most do not have a dream to trade. They want to trade to make money. Zach  0:58  Yeah. Agnieszka  0:59  And that brings too much focus on the result right from the start and a lot of pressure. So Zach, can you tell us, what was your dream? And why did you get into trading?Zach  1:13  So yeah, I mean, like most people, I think my first thought was, you start on YouTube, you're watching a lot of YouTube videos, and you see people trading—especially during the pandemic, I feel like the algorithm was just pumping like trading, traders and trading courses and everything online. And of course, you know, the dollar signs start flashing, right, the Lambos and dollar signs, you just start seeing like, oh my god, I did not realize this was possible. And it makes sense because like, as technology changes, and as, you know, this type of like knowledge, which I think previously was held so tightly by gatekeepers, let's say you had to work for a big firm to be able to learn these types of techniques in this kind of process, you know, that becomes opened up to to a larger population. And I think with online trading software and such, this is even expanded more. So, for the first time I'm seeing this, and I'm like, got the dollar signs in my eyes, right? Oh, my God, this is incredible. I could be making, you know, five grand a day, nevermind, five grand a month, right. And it just becomes this amazing opportunity. So thinking of myself, like, I know that I was very, very technical and very, you know, kind of engineering mindset. So it was like, Oh, this should be an easy fit, this should be easy for me to figure out. And, you know, if somebody, if anyone can do it, I could do it. So that's sort of what I think drew me into it at first, the dollar signs for sure. And a little bit of, you know, I'm a bit of an introvert. So I don't mind kind of working by myself on a computer at a computer screen for hours on end. And a lot of it appealed to me, I guess.Agnieszka  2:42  I remember when I was getting into trading the visions were not so much of the Lambos, and you know, all the luxury lifestyles that you could have, but more the free lifestyle that was really attracting me because at that time I moved to the US and I lived in Miami Beach. So you can only imagine thinking about trading in the morning and then going outside laying on the beach in the evening or in the afternoon. That was the thing for me. And everywhere you saw the pictures of traders laying in a hammock or trading with their laptops at the pool with a cocktail in their hands. Right? Those images have changed by the way very quickly in the same pictures of traders stuck in their office with like 20 screens the whole day. So that was a little bit of a clash with reality later on.Zach  3:32  The freedom element is also something that struck me. I'm a very freedom-oriented individual in general. And I've never enjoyed any full-time job that I've had. I've never enjoyed working with any bosses that I've had, like some people are like, oh, I had a boss—I love them! And I hated every one of them, not the person necessarily but the relationship of having somebody bearing down on me constantly keeping track of my work and stuff. So the freedom element for sure had me and also that's what the dollar signs ultimately represented to me was freedom, right? The freedom to be able to buy what I want to buy and go on trips when I want to go on them and not have to be bound to a desk for eight hours a day like most people are.Agnieszka  4:13  Yeah, freedom and independence, right? Because we feel so dependent, especially like when people work for a boss. It's not just the money part, but it's more the freedom of choice. I remember that at some point, I got a job and you know, you have to ask for holidays and I have been an entrepreneur for many years myself, but then you get a job and suddenly you get few days of holidays and you're like, wait a minute, someone is gonna tell me when I can take a day off and when I cannot and I have to you know, like really limit myself. So that is I think one big aspect of trading that is very attractive to people—that independence of choice time, how I spend my time, and of course the money it's supposed to give you. How soon did you find out that there is a lot before you can get that freedom?Zach  5:12  Yeah, so you know, like, when is the honeymoon period over? Right? I think every job, really every relationship, and every new hobby or new career path, let's say in this case comes at the with that honeymoon phase where you've got the stars in your eyes in the beginning, or dollar signs and you're just so into what you're doing; you're absorbing content nonstop. You're, you know, reading books, you're doing everything you possibly can; you just love it, you're in it. And then all of a sudden, like, the honeymoon is over and the long stretch begins of having to actually dig in and learn and do stuff. And that happened to me, I'd say, let's see, I had hired a coach, prior to you, who taught me the basics of trading. And it was prior to that even I think I was trading for about six months prior to that. So for those first six months was very much the honeymoon phase. When I first hired that first coach, I was like, Okay, that was about the point when I realized, I can't do this on my own right. And that was the thing that really, I think, struck me the most, because I'm a huge “do-it-yourselfer”; I like to build my own, wood furniture, and I do my own renovations and whatnot. And through all that I also was entering this career with the idea like, okay, I'm going to teach myself how to do this; I'm definitely smart enough to do that. And I'm going to just knock it out of the park. And as I kept hitting my head against the wall with frustration and the inability to actually realize any profits and to see the daily challenges with the occasional blow-up of just, you know, whether it was a virtual account or even a micro account, I was blowing them up. And I'm like this is not working, what's happening? So the honeymoon phase ended for me when I realized I need help from somebody outside of me, like a professional who knows how to do this. But even within that, I think there was still another honeymoon phase like, Okay, now I've got the coach, now I'm definitely going to learn this, it's going to be awesome. And once I'm done with this three month course, I'm ready to go right. And I'm just gonna, you know, the dollar signs are gonna start coming to fruition. So unfortunately, that also didn't happen. It takes more than just, you know, a year. By this point, I've been trading for roughly a year. And I kept hearing too, from a lot of other people online, like oh, you know, expect it to take a couple years, a year and a half, whatever. So these timelines were always in my mind. But the longer that goes, the harder it gets, I think to maintain that positivity.Agnieszka  7:43  Yeah, it's probably because when you are doing or when you're not entirely sure what you're doing, or you're not entirely, not always doing the right thing, right, you kind of repeat what's not working. And it's simply not working, right? Because if you do what's not working, I mean, how can you expect different results from it? But I was kind of wondering, like, while you were talking, isn't it kind of naive for all of us to start something completely new and complex? And we all know, we all knew when we started, that most traders who are beginning this profession are not going to succeed, right? And still, every single trader who is at the beginning of this career, thinks I will be different. And still goes through the same struggle goes through the same problems. Regardless of, you know, you can tell everyone, listen, but this is gonna be hard. It's gonna, you will have to face yourself, you will have to work on your mindset on your psychology, there's so many different challenges. And somehow we don't want to see that. Is that something you think is just the nature of a human? Or is it just because it's such a difficult domain and people who are trying to achieve success in it are so ambitious, that they simply do not hear all those challenges and say, you know, I am going to conquer? What do you think it is?Zach  9:17  Yeah, you know, so a lot. A few things there. First off, I think trading by its nature attracts ambitious people because even though trading appears to be a quick to money kind of operation, right, get rich quick scheme in a way? And a lot of people on the outside certainly have accused me of trying to chase something like that. But I think that yeah, so you're starting out with ambitious people. Most people that are getting into trading are rather ambitious. They're probably people that are willing to do things outside of the normal kind of structure of society, right? The nine to five job and, you know, planning with your 401k and having a retirement plan.Agnieszka  9:55  And often very successful too, right? Zach  9:57  Yeah, often very successful because if you're a successful in one area, you feel like, well, if I'm gonna, you know, this was my rationale, I was like, I'm a successful and smart person, if I apply to something like this that has almost limitless, you know, financial capability, then sky's the limit. Like I can be a millionaire in a year, right? And so you have a little bit of that. So you're partially clouded not only by the dollar signs of it all, and just like, you know, all of that. And plus, let's face it, a lot of the content that's out there online that's oriented around trading is typically very optimistic, right? You don't see a lot of trading coaches that are telling you like how much money they've lost and how terrible it is, and how hard it is and how many nights they cry themselves to sleep and, you know, whatever. But you do. So that, I think and the other thing you're clouded by is your own sheer ambition of just saying, like, I know, I can do this, whatever. And that's a good thing, it's important to have ambition, and it's important to have confidence that you're going to make it because without that, you're not going to make it through the trials and tribulations to get there. But there was another thing for me, which was that I did not realize even within the first six months, that to become a good trader, I needed to work on my mindset and that it involved far more than just my ability to see patterns and to recognize trends and to understand the charts and the tools on the trading platform. Like it was far more than that. And when I started to realize that was when I ultimately hired my second coach, which was you, to work on that mindset, because I came to the conclusion like, Okay, I've hired a professional trader, he's given me all the tools, and I'm still not getting it. The only other answer here is that I'm the problem, right? And so, or at least what's in between the ears is the problem. So that's when I started to look for additional support.Agnieszka  11:46  Yeah, it's very interesting that at the very beginning of trading, we think that with time it will just get better, right? And then, you have been trading for two years, or some people even for 10 years, and then they see someone else coming into the market and after one year, they have success. And it's a huge confusion, because how is that even possible? What I realized, what was really very important, was that profitability is actually a skill, and not just a consequence of trading. Did you know that when you started, did you know that you actually have to first learn to be profitable, and then repeat what you need to do and repeat your process and put the strategy in, in order to actually have results?Zach  12:41  Yeah, so short answer, no, I did not realize that. But I think I've always been aware of the idea of a money mindset, right? Or at least for—maybe not always, but definitely while I was learning how to trade, and I understood that being profitable, or being a successful, you know, person or an earner is, is a mindset. You know, it's like I was talking to somebody the other day, and we were talking about success. And I said, I stated it this way, I think it's accurate, which is that success is not a destination, success is a mindset. You have to first understand and believe who you are, what you're capable of. And believe that it's not even about believing, it's about knowing that the success is on its way, that money is coming, right that the the financial security is there, it's within reach, it's just on its way, and you almost have to it's almost a sort of a matter of manifestation in a way. And being able to bring that into you to be the right match as an individual to the type of success you want. Like, when you think of a successful person, you don't see a successful person who's constantly feeling like they're downtrodden and who's constantly feeling like, oh, woe is me, this is terrible. Like, my boss is a jerk, and this sucks over here, and you know, I'm never, I'm never gonna make it like successful people don't do that because they're successful. But they're not doing that because they're successful. They're successful, because they don't do that. And that's the mindset shift that I, I understood, but I didn't fully embody until I really worked on it. And that level, the level of work that was required for that was something I was completely unprepared for. I did not realize how important it was, how in depth it was going to be, how emotional it was going to be, and how much it was going to test me as a person. I mean, to this point, I believed well, I'm a smart person, I've got degrees from, you know, top tier universities. I've, you know, have the capability of earning money. Clearly, I've been earning money for years and had great jobs, and I've always been well liked, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But you know, it did not translate to the kind of financial success that I wanted until I really started focusing on that mindset. Agnieszka  14:54  There is also another part to being successful, which I think is, comes to light very strongly in trading, and that's failing. Because successful people, they are successful because after they fail, they get up. If you fail and never get up, you will not have success. And that's where I think that big difference comes in where you know how to deal with your failure. And it's being triggered every single day during your trading routine, right? Because every time you take a loss, if you don't know how to deal with that, if you really do not take it in and accept the losses, you just feel like you're failing every single time over and over again.Zach  15:42  Well, that's one of the things about trading that I think I've learned to love about it, is that it is a constant practice of failure; it's constant, you fail every day, every you know what, like, maybe 1/3 of every trade you take is a loss is a fail. And, you know, it's like that expression, it's not how hard you fall, it's how fast you get up. Getting up in this sense is not just like getting back on the horse and getting into another trade, which is honestly how it first felt to me, when I first started trading, it's like, okay, like bad trade, lost money, get back in and jump back in. But that's actually wrong. Like, you don't want to just jump back in automatically. It's not about it's not a matter of how fast you get up. It's how well you get up and to maintain that sense of clarity and get back to your rules and your trading strategy and doing your best to focus on that and stay calm and collected as you proceed. And it's no different really, than in any failure in life. You know, in any failure in life, you're going to encounter that same desire to want to just get back up and get running again. But sometimes you need that moment of reflection, and you need that moment to get back down to your roots and your baseline principles to know how to get back and get back in the right direction in a way that is not going to lead you back to that same failure, because that's certainly something we're all familiar with, right? That failing over and over and over again, the epitome of insanity, right? Or the definition of insanity to keep repeating the same thing that leads you to the same place. So yeah.Agnieszka  17:17  I always compare it to like, the Sisyphean task, you know, where you push the big rock up the hill, and then the moment you think you're there, it just rolls back down. And you have to start all over. For two years, for me a long time ago, it really felt that way. And I did cry myself to sleep, yes, I cried pretty much every, every day when, you know, when I was stuck in a failing cycle. And I just could not believe how this is even happening to me, to me, that successful person in other areas of life, you know, just really the cliche story. But it's at that moment, you are simply so emotional and so wrapped up in your own world and in your wants, and you know, the things you're trying to avoid, that survival mechanism that's being triggered every time. So there is a lot of emotions coming into play. And still, regardless how much stress, how much pressure and emotions you're being exposed to every single day, once you get into trading, it's very hard to get out. It's very hard to say, You know what? I have tried for two years, and it's not working. I'm just gonna stop. Many traders blow up their accounts multiple times. Right? And still, they put more money in and go. Why do you think that is? What plays a role in those decisions?Zach  18:53  Well, I think first off the dream is big, right? I mean, it's very easy. I fell victim of this a lot during my trading experience was, early on, was constantly doing the math on like, if I can earn this much per day, that's this much per week, which is this much per month, which is this much per year! Oh my god, this is man, this is amazing! You know, and like you keep playing that game in your head. And then maybe you'll adjust it. Oh, well, I probably can't make that much because that's like, you know, that's like an expert trader. But me as a beginner trader, maybe I can make this much which is still this much per week, this month for month, this month for a year, that's still a massive amount of money! So you're just kind of like going through this thing over and over again, believing, keeping the hopes and dreams in your mind, which is important. You have to maintain optimism, you have to be there, but that's the facade, right? That's not the reality of trading. The reality of trading is not to look at things in terms of, you know, how much you can earn; it's really about how much you can keep trading is more about about you know, maintaining what's in your bank in your in your trading account, not not just like zooming off into the stratosphere. It's about protecting that money that you've already earned. Everyone can create have a decent trade here and there; it's it's avoiding the bad trades that's really the way you become successful at trading and not overdoing those bad trades and allowing yourself to slip down that slippery slope slope of over leveraging or getting into too many, you know, a bad mindset where you're, you've lost all principles and you're just hitting that, you know, like a casino lever, right you're hitting the button, like just trade, trade, trade because you're just wanting to make up for failure. So I think that's part of it. But how did you start this, again?Agnieszka  20:36  About the emotions that, despite the fact that traders are suffering, I mean, the periods of the period where you are trying to make it, but you're going through this emotional roller coaster every day, because of those, you know, revenge trades, because you have no control over yourself, or you lose control over yourself suddenly, and you wake up five minutes later, and you go like, what did I just do? How did this even happen? Who is clicking that mouse? Because I know it's definitely not me.Zach  21:09  Yeah.Agnieszka  21:11  That still, considering all these negative things, traders have still difficulty to say no, and I don't mean completely stop, but even say, stop for a week, give yourself a break.Zach  21:26  Yeah, I think part of it is that, you know, you have this fear that if I stop or if I slow down, I'm not going to come back to it, because the reality is trading is hard. It's hard on you as a both and mentally like, the amount that you have to focus on the amount of knowledge you have to gain and constantly be reviewing and considering but also, it's hard, because it's emotionally difficult, right? The over and over again, the failures that stack up as you're trading and maybe across days or weeks, even, it starts to wear on you a lot. And I think there's some people, it's almost like a marathon mentality, right? Where it's like, running, it's really, really hard. And it's painful. And, but you know, you keep running long enough, you hit that second wind, your body just starts kind of gliding with the motions, and suddenly you're like, it's nowhere near as painful as it was, even though you're, you've ran twice as far. So I think for some, there's a little bit of that mentality, like if I give up now, I'm not going to come back to it, because I'm gonna get used to that, you know, lack of fear of lack of pain. I think there's, that's part of it. But I think it's, it's also just, you know, again, people that are attracted to trading are ambitious types. They're the type of people that are just going to keep cracking away at something. And unfortunately, it does result in people blowing up accounts. And I think that that happens when you've got a little bit, you've got enough ambition, but you don't have enough self control and, ultimately integrity to be able to say, hey, I need to stop what I'm doing, because this is the wrong path. You know, it's like, almost like, you're blind to it. At least that's how it worked for me. On those periods.Agnieszka  23:00  It not only takes a toll on you, right? It's also taking a toll on your environment, and I get a lot of times, questions from people who are struggling. How do I know it's time to stop? Is it something that your coach should tell you? Is it something that you have to make an agreement with yourself like, "okay, if I lose that much money, then I'm done?" Or is that something that you have to look around and see, okay, "How is my family doing with this? How is everyone dealing with what I am trying to achieve? Is this the right moment for me to achieve that?"Zach  23:35  Right. So I was very fortunate in this way in that my wife fully supported me but I know that there were a lot of, there's a lot of people, a lot of traders out there who have family that is telling them, like "Stop" or "You're nuts. This is a bad idea. You're wasting, we're losing our money." Right? So I can't speak to that directly. I'm very fortunate to have had family that appreciated it. At the time that I really got into trading. It was during COVID, I was furloughed for 10 months. So it was sort of a perfect opportunity in some degree. I was almost thinking, like "Wow, the universe has given me an opportunity here to do something, right? And to learn this new thing and spend the time on it."Agnieszka  24:08  Did that play a role though in your, like, when you are struggling, did it play a role that you are thinking "Okay, they gave me this opportunity, they trust me." Did that create any pressure of, "They trust me and now I cannot make it?"Zach  24:24  For sure. So that's a great point. So as I was trading and failing at it, I felt, I mean, I'm just like this, my nature is like because I have a sense of duty to my family. I think that's a I don't know, maybe I'm wrong here, but this it seems like a male quality to me at least like having a family, you have to be the provider you have to kind of be especially in my household. My wife is a stay at home mom. So I felt that need to be a provider and especially while we were always furloughed and not making any money for sure whether it was even heightened, but I'll say that in my circumstances, I put far more pressure on myself than I did then my wife could put pressure on me to succeed at this, and that pressure ultimately was not a good recipe for success when it came to trading. I mean, you know, trading, unfortunately, is already a high-pressure situation. But when you add more pressure into it, whether it's that you have to make your bills or you have to generate income, or if you've quit your job, possibly, or you're furloughed in my case, and you're needing to supplement your lifestyle and pay for things, it's a really tough thing. And I remember when we were working together, that was like, the biggest thing, it was like when I, while we were working together, I actually got a new job, so I didn't have that pressure on me as much anymore. And that was sort of like an "Aha!" moment, like, "Oh, okay, well, now, if you don't have that pressure on you this, should you may start seeing changes here." And I think it ultimately did, but things still went sideways. So.Agnieszka  25:48  Yeah, because it is really not the pressure from outside, it's the pressure that we create ourselves, right? That is, most of the time it's expectations, we have a lot of expectations from ourselves. And sometimes we project expectations from others on ourselves. And the more pressure you create, the worse it gets. Because we know that, I mean, to be good in something, to do something at the highest performance level, you really want to be relaxed, right? I started playing tennis not so long time ago. And actually, where I noticed a huge improvement was when I relaxed the most. And that's such a crazy thing to realize that in life, the more you tighten up, the more you muscle up, the more wants you have, the more difficult the things become. And all we need to do is just to relax. Zach  26:49  Easier said than done.Agnieszka  26:50  Just do it easy, just relax? Why are we trying to put so much effort in everything? And I was thinking the other day, "Where does it go wrong?" Who said at some point years ago, you know millions, or like when we were growing up, like, "You have to be or you have to do everything at your best", instead of just enjoying the process, because that would be so much easier for us now in trading.Zach  27:18  That's a great point. And I think that enjoying the process of trading is really the key, right? If you can come to a position with it, where it's not about the money, it's not about the success rate, it's about the actual act action of finding the right trades, playing playing the chart right, entering and exiting in the right moments, I think that if you get that and you gain your satisfaction from that alone, and you could focus on that, then you will have a much more likelihood of being a successful trader. Whereas if you're trying to focus so much on the outcomes, it's gonna, you're gonna struggle.Agnieszka  27:54  So, speaking of confidence, you kind of touched a little bit earlier, when speaking of success, you said that in order to achieve success, you have to be confident, right? You have to believe in yourself. Now, trading, a lot of times, makes people feel less confident. It actually destroys your confidence. Because you feel like you're failing all the time. Right? Yeah. What role did your confidence play in your trading journey?Zach  28:32  Uh, so this is personal, but I suppose confidence is something I've always struggled with as a young person, right? All through childhood, I was picked on a bit and, you know, confidence was always something that I just struggled with, whether it was dealing with my peers, dealing with the opposite sex, dealing with anything related to work or school even. Like as an example, you know, when I went to my undergrad, my first year, I went from being top 5% In my high school to go into university, and suddenly failing almost every maj... like really hard major class, especially in the sciences that I was going for, and it was like, "Whoa," like, that was a major hit to my confidence, because suddenly I was like, I thought I was like, at least you know, top 10%. And, you know, and I was just, I needed a huge amount of extra support and tutoring to make it through just some of these first year courses. So it was a little bit of a wake up call first off that made me realize like, okay, first of all, my education that I thought I was excelling in clearly was not up to the level that a lot of other people are, and I found university to be very challenging. But it worked against my confidence. And ultimately what that meant is that I had at the time foregone switching to a major, like I wanted to really pursue architectural engineering, possibly structure engineering, something like that. And I ended up feeling that I wouldn't I can't do this. Like I just felt like I'm not gonna be able to do this. I'm not smart enough. Clearly, I'm struggling so much my freshman year so, you know, just take a different route, go to a major that's easier and get your degree and get out. Right. And that was, I mean, if I could go back and change anything in my life, it would be that. I wish I could snap, snap myself out of it and say no, like, with the right work and the right mindset, you can succeed pretty much in anything. It took me years, honestly, until it was, you know, in my 30s, to be able to discover that about myself. But so, in trading, by the time I started trading, I'd already kind of built up my confidence, at least far more than it had been in the past. And I think grad school had a lot to do with that. I, you know, went through a very challenging engineering graduate school and did really well there. And, you know, that kind of helped lift things up for me, but I was also more mature. And I think that my age kind of started to, I started to reflect more on myself and who I am and how I fit into the rest of the world. And through that, I started gaining more confidence, but trading is definitely something that will break you down to bits, you know, it's like, it'll break you down, so you can build yourself back up. And I think ultimately, that's the opportunity that trading offers. Anybody who tries it, whether you're whether you end up as a trader or not, is that you have the opportunity to get beaten down so hard with something that is seemingly, I don't want to use the word easy, but seemingly possible, right? Because you see so many people online doing and half the people that are online, successfully trading don't seem like the types of people you'd expect, you know, that are these like hardcore, really good, you know, Wall Street level traders that are driving around in Mercedes and stuff. I mean, it's just a, you know, you see regular people in T-shirts trading behind their computer, and they're making, you know, having a $4,000 afternoon or morning, and it's just incredible. But I think it worked on my confidence in that it broke it down severely over the course of about a year. I really questioned a lot about, you know, how smart am I? Am I capable of doing this? Is this something that I should even do? And then through working, you know, fortunately, fortunately, I found the right people to help me. And that's when I encountered you, to be able to work through the emotional and the mindset factors of trading. And my life has been changed ever since that, really.Agnieszka  32:08  It was really beautiful to see the transformation from you. And really what the biggest part of it is, and I think you said it really nicely. It's kind of, you said the trading can break you down in  pieces, right? And in fact, if you look at it from the psychological perspective, this is what needs to happen for every trader, in order to trade successfully. And let me explain why.Because we, as people, we have huge egos, we have an ego, I mean, an image that we have created of who we think we want to be. And we are trying to fulfill that image. We are trying to do everything to make sure that people will see us that way. And that we can see us this way. And everything that does not comply with an image, we are not happy about. We call ourselves names. We beat to ourselves up about it and we are very emotional. So what actually trading helps you do is to break that image into pieces. And you need to do that because that image stands you in the way of being present with trading and not putting yourself into the equation. Because in trading, you shouldn't be there. It's just, it's the market, it's the chart. And whatever you want, whatever dreams you have is irrelevant. The moment that you are trading, your dreams are irrelevant. The moment you start to think about them, it's done. It's done because now you are not trading, you're dreaming. Zach  33:56 Yeah. Agnieszka  33:57And that causes a lot of problems. If you're not aware of it, you will be taking everything personal. And that's where your confidence suffers. And it is good to, indeed, have someone who is going to help you through the journey and help you not take things personal, because it feels personal, right? When you're sitting there and you're losing money and it's your money, you're, you know, you worked hard to make it, to earn it or you maybe took it from your savings and it's very personal, it becomes very personal. So it is not always easy to step outside of yourself or outside to take yourself outside of the equation and actually start looking at trading impersonally. It's not about me. I know we think we are the center of the world.Zach  34:51  Main character, main character syndrome. That's right.Agnieszka  34:55  Exactly. Well, it's not, you know, it's not the wonder that we think we are the center, because in the end, you know, the Earth is turning and the center point is where we are standing and we are standing there. So it seems like everything turns around us, right?  Zach  35:11Yeah.Agnieszka  35:12But that's, that's how I see trading actually helping you to get over yourself. And, and, you know, getting over your ego helps you to live a happier life, because then it's easier to accept the things that you might not like, because things are as they are. And we are just too picky. We like this, we don't like that. And we try to resist things or we cling on to things. And that creates a lot of negative emotions in life. Because, you know, when you resist, what you resist persists. Right? So with that trading, and you mentioned that, that, you know, the changes that you are undergoing, while learning trading, or trying to succeed in the market are very helpful also in your daily life. And it definitely forms you as a person, as a human being.Zach  36:05  Yeah, 100%, you talk about ego—I think that the key there is that as you-with every trade that you take, a little bit of your ego goes into that trade, right? Because it's like, you're only taking a trade because you believe that you're right, first off, right. So there's already embedded within each trade is a little piece of your ego that's going in there and every single time that that trade comes back wrong, and you lose money, which is a double whammy, because that hurts even more than just having your ego shocked a bit. Now you're losing money on top of it. And there's like, you know, this actual proof of your failure with a negative balance on a trade, it really the ego element of it is challenging. And I've never perceived myself as being an egotistical person, but I know what you mean by it's more of the ego and that we all carry, right? It's the it's the the part of our personality of our person, that whether you have a big ego or not, it's you we all have something that's there that informs who we are, and you know, our stasis, our status, our confidence, all of that. Yeah, you know, trading has a lot to do with that. And it has a tendency to, to really hit areas of your ego that you hadn't previously maybe experienced. But I think that what ends up happening is just like weight training, or any other kind of physical activity, that repetition of constantly working through it, and going through those steps and feeling that that constant attack on your ego ultimately has the potential to strengthen your ego, and to help you have balance with it, right? So that it's not just all about, "Well, I'm better, I'm right." It's not that kind of ego, it's more of like, a sense of calm and collected control over yourself, confidence of who you are, what you're capable of. It's like the, I used to think that the image of a real trader was somebody who is very successful and confident and wealthy and, you know, kind of walked into a room and everyone was like, Oh, there he is, you know, kind of like that kind of thing. And that's the wrong kind of ego. It's a real kind of trader that I've now understood, like, the real image of a trader is somebody who's just extremely quiet, collected, and calm in any circumstance and is basically able to, like, analyze and be thorough and thoughtful without kind of allowing their emotions to go either to the extreme in either direction, right?Agnieszka  38:29  Yeah, because you don't really want to react to traders, right? So whether you're a trader or not, I think that's a quality that's very helpful in life in general, that you are not reactive to whatever is happening outside and see emotions as something that is temporary. Because everything is changing, everything is passing and so do emotions. And when you are trading you will definitely have a lot of emotions, right? And the interesting thing is, is that when the emotions are not pleasant, we don't want to feel that, right? And the emotions when you are in a trade, a lot of times people will feel anxious or nervous right because now you are exposed— you are exposed to risk. So, instead of making the time that you are exposed the shortest possible and the wait for the perfect trade, for the perfect setup where you actually feel okay, this is my chance, I really feel comfortable with that. Sometimes we trade you know, tweezers coming in and boom, boom, like you said, clicking clicking the button, making a lot of trades and exposing yourself to all these dynamics that actually make you empty, that completely use your emotional capital. And at the end of the day, you are exhausted, and you have lost money, and you're like, is this what is this all about? Is this what I'm going to try to do for the rest of my life? Zach  40:09Yeha, well that's the thing, you know, it's that I think where that comes from the constant kind of revenge trading where you're you know, that's sort of that you've fallen and you want to get back up as quickly as possible, you want to just like, you know, it's like, you don't want to be beaten down by it. So you get back up right away, and you're ready for another fight. But that's completely the wrong mentality. And that's unfortunately, the mentality that comes I think, naturally to a lot of people, especially those ambitious types, right, it's like you refuse to be taken out, be taken down. But it's not the right mentality for for trading. Trading is, you know, you're much better off to be—there's a great expression that this just comes to mind here, it's like you've and this is mostly applied to kind of society, I think it's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war, right? So I've always loved this expression, because it's like, in other words, be capable of power. Be capable of violence, maybe not the right word, but like reassured power, right? Just the ability to go forth and knock it out. But figuratively, of course. But in trading, you have to have that ability to be able to get back up and go, go, go. But you also need to have that ability to stay calm and collected. And that's about living in that garden, right? The peaceful and tranquility of it to exist within that space, but have that ability to go and know when the right moment to strike is. But it's that balance, because you know, the worst thing to do is to be the kind of trader that goes in and is just trying to hit it harder, harder, harder each time. And as you fall and fail, you get back up and you go, you double down, right? That double down effect is really bad, especially in trading. So, you know, I think that was the part for me, too, that I struggled with a lot. I mean, there was a lot of moments where revenge trading was a cornerstone of my trading experience for a long time. And then feeling that complete depression of like, I've caused my own failure here, you know that, and it's tough, it's tough to work through, it's a very, it ends up becoming a very emotional thing. And that was ultimately something I completely did not expect when I got into trading.Agnieszka  42:15  And then last thing I wanted to ask you, what comes first, confidence or success? What do you think? Zach  42:23  Hmm. I think for some people, they fall into success backwards, while walking forward somehow. It just happens. And in those instances, I think confidence comes second to the success. It's like having major success, you now feel more confident people look at you differently, and that adds to your confidence. But that kind of confidence is only as strong as your next failure. Right? It's only it'll only be there until you failed and you will fail. Because the one thing about people who have succeeded is that they failed more times than they've succeeded. It's just a matter of course. But the other way to do it, and I think maybe the more sustainable way to do it is to build that confidence, that mindset, which I think we're kind of using interchangeably here to build that to a place where no matter how many times you fail, you will still pursue that success. And that success ultimately is there for you if you can maintain that mindset and that competence. And you only do that by work on those things first, so, so maybe a two-sided answer, but I think the better route is to build that confidence and success, confidence and, and mindset first.Agnieszka  43:36  That's the way I see it as well. Especially that confidence that comes really from within feeling confident about yourself and knowing that you are capable of bringing something to an end of relying on yourself, of, you know, when you promise something to yourself that you're actually going to do it, talking about integrity here. Because when you're trading it is so easy to mix it up with competence. Zach  44:05Yes.Agnieszka  44:06When you're trading well, you're confident, the moment you start losing, your confidence is gone. Thank you so much Zach, for joining us for a real conversation on topics that are not always easy to talk about, and that, you know, many people don't want to discuss many times.Zach  44:23  I wish you all the success. I think you, you know, I love your brand. I love what you do, and I know you helped me a lot so I'm excited for you to help others.Agnieszka  44:33  Thank you so much for listening to the Confidence in Trading podcast. If you enjoy my show, please rate and review it on Apple podcasts and be sure to subscribe so you can come back for a real conversation in the next episode. Until then, this is Agnieszka Wood from Ahead Coach. And don't forget you too can realize your dream without losing yourself and your confidence in the process. Contact Agnieszka Wood | Ahead Coach: Website: aheadcoach.comTwitter: @Ahead_CoachYouTube: @aheadcoachFacebook: Agnieszka WoodInstagram: ahead.coachLinkedIn: Agnieszka WoodYou can email me at launchyourlife@aheadcoach.com

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19th century photographer Julia Margaret Cameron; through the lens of her camera and cumbersome wet collodion process, Cameron reveals the beauty, intelligence and spirit of her sitters. We will look closely at the image "Cassiopeia," from 1864. I also highlight the contemporary photographer Zach Rubin from Z Rubin Photo. Follow links below to learn more.The Metropolitan Museum of Art: www.themetmuseum.org and Victoria and Albert Museum www.vam.ac.uk and Zach Rubin Photo at https://zrubinphoto.myportfolio.com or @zrubinphoto on Instagram.

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Transform yourself into the tribal desert sounds of Nevada during the annual event Burning Man as host Frank Bennardo journeys with guest Zach Rubin, PE on his adventures into this iconic event.

Transform yourself into the tribal desert sounds of Nevada during the annual event Burning Man as host Frank Bennardo journeys with guest Zach Rubin on his adventures into this iconic event. The post Burning Man – Deconstructing This #1 appeared first on Engineering Express®.

We're Only Human 8 - Using Books to Create a Shared Culture of Learning Host: Ben Eubanks Guest: Zach Rubin, Co-Founder, PBC Guru Books. They've been around pretty much forever, and that familiarity is one reason they are not as appreciated as some other learning tools. But don't be fooled--there's more than meets the eye. It's been said that reading one hour a day will make someone an international expert in their field in 5-7 years. While that exact figure may be up for debate, it's clear that reading is a powerful activity for self-development. In this episode of We're Only Human, Ben Eubanks interviews Zach Rubin, cofounder of PBC Guru, a company that designs and delivers book club experiences for organizations looking to create a culture of shared learning. The discussion covers what books companies most often request, how to use books for supporting social learning, and a special free offer for We're Only Human listeners. Whether you're a book nerd or not, this show is going to demonstrate that this fundamentally human activity, reading, has more value than you would imagine.  Special Offer: PBC Guru is offering to implement and manage a virtual book club with your company completely free for six months. Just visit http://pbc.guru and fill out the contact form mentioning you heard us on the "We're Only Human" podcast. Remember to subscribe to We're Only Human and all the HR Happy Hour Podcast Network Shows on iTunes, Stitcher Radio, or wherever you get your podcasts - just search for 'HR Happy Hour' to subscribe and never miss a show