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In this conversation, Dr. Han Goh shares his extensive journey in Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA), detailing his experiences under the mentorship of Dr. Brian Iwata and his transition from academia to private practice. He discusses the evolution of ABA, particularly concerning insurance reform and its implications for service delivery. Han emphasizes the importance of training foster parents using behavioral techniques to improve outcomes for children in foster care, highlighting the significance of family unity and collaboration in the field. He also touches on his international connections and future aspirations to advance ABA practices globally. Watch the video of this conversation here! https://youtu.be/ewcSHeCXXWQ   Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop) BACB: 0.5 Learning IBAO:  0.5 Learning QABA: 0.5 General We also offer certificates of attendance! Follow us! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/behaviourspeak/ Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/benreiman.bsky.social.bsky.social LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/behaviourspeak/ Contact: Dr Han-Leong Goh https://www.linkedin.com/in/han-leong-goh-%E5%90%B3%E6%BC%A2%E9%BE%8D-ph-d-bcba-d-lba-nc-6280a981/ Breakthrough Autism https://www.breakthroughnc.com/ Articles Referenced: Rescorla RA, Wagner AR. A theory of Pavlovian conditioning: Variations in the effectiveness of reinforcement and nonreinforcement. In: Classical Conditioning II: Current Research and Theory (Eds Black AH, Prokasy WF) New York: Appleton Century Crofts, pp. 64-99, 1972 Dunlap, G., & Vollmer, T. R. (2008). Introduction to the Special Issue on the Florida Behavior Analysis Services Program. Research on Social Work Practice, 18(5), 365-366. https://doi.org/10.1177/1049731508318644  Van Camp, C. M., Vollmer, T. R., Goh, H.-L., Whitehouse, C. M., Reyes, J., Montgomery, J. L., & Borrero, J. C. (2008). Behavioral Parent Training in Child Welfare: Evaluations of Skills Acquisition. Research on Social Work Practice, 18(5), 377-391. https://doi.org/10.1177/1049731507314008  Van Camp, C. M., Montgomery, J. L., Vollmer, T. R., Kosarek, J. A., Happe, S., Burgos, V., & Manzolillo, A. (2008). Behavioral Parent Training in Child Welfare: Maintenance and Booster Training. Research on Social Work Practice, 18(5), 392-400. https://doi.org/10.1177/1049731508318658 Stoutimore, M. R., Williams, C. E., Neff, B., & Foster, M. (2008). The Florida Child Welfare Behavior Analysis Services Program. Research on Social Work Practice, 18(5), 367-376. https://doi.org/10.1177/1049731508318654   Related Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes: Episode 40: Dr. Kim Crosland https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-40-applications-of-behaviour-science-to-foster-care-runaways-the-homeless-and-bullying-with-kimberly-crosland-phd-bcba-d/ Episode 135: Arturo Garcia https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-135-addressing-human-trafficking-with-behavior-analysis/ Episode 206: Arthur Hairston https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-206-autistic-youth-in-foster-care-with-arthur-hairston-med-bcba/ Links: Malaysia ABA https://m-aba.com/  

Links to Steven Webb's podcast and how you can support his work.Donate paypal.me/stevenwebbSteven's courses, podcasts and links: stevenwebb.ukPodcast Episode Introduction for Inner Peace Meditations:

You see it.  The presenter publicly self-immolates. They might butcher the start, get lost in the weeds of their content or be put to the sword at the end in the Q&A.  They can't engage with their audience, are incoherent and quivering the whole time.  It is a train wreck on display. Reputations and credibility are flayed alive.  Here is the irony – they chose it to be like this. They made a series of poor decisions about this presentation and then reaped the whirlwind of total humiliation. Rehearsing the presentation takes time.  Time which could be devoted to adding massive content, multiple fonts and gaudy colours to the slides.  This is why failures fail.  They ignore logic and decide that practicing on their audience is much more efficient.  It is not terribly effective though. The long term damage from short term decisions is substantial when you thrust yourself into the public eye. If you don't have big brackets of time available, then just work on pieces at a time, over time.  That means start early, so there is no mad rush at the end.  I made a genius decision once to prepare my presentation on the flight from Osaka to Sydney.  No sleep and subsequently plenty of irritability upon landing made for a combustible cocktail. When someone in my audience had the temerity, the audacity, the gall to challenge my assertions in the presentation, it didn't go well. I vowed NEVER to try that exercise in efficiency ever again. Turning up just before kick off, to find there is some technical issue with your slides or the laptop or the audio is a life shortening experience.  Always make the time to go early.  I was giving a presentation to the Japan Market Expansion Competition and dutifully brought along my USB to plug into their laptop.  Their Microsoft environment didn't like my Mac presentation layout, so it changed the whole thing.  I arrived early and found myself sweating like a maniac, as I tried to fix every single slide before the start.  I finished with one minute to go, but I was a nervous wreck.  If I am not using my own laptop, I go even earlier now. First impressions start from the moment the organisers advertise the event and include elements of your bio.  People are forming biases and opinions about you, which they are going to size up against what they see in front of them.  Get there early, check the tech and then gracefully mingle with the punters.  Do your best to be charming.  Being an introvert, that is no easy task for me.  Do your best to schmooze people in the crowd before you start and build supporters in the room. Don't eat too much at the lunch or dinner prior to your talk.  Try instead to engage your table colleagues, again building rapport.  You can always eat later if you are starving.  When they call your name stride confidently and effortlessly to the stage.  Have zero interaction with the laptop – don't even touch it. Instead get straight into your opening.  You don't need any slides to begin with, so concentrate of creating a powerful and positive first impression.  Once you have done that, then you can look down at your laptop and start the slide deck rolling.  By the way, many balding presenters proffer a brilliant view of their sparse, patchy pate, as they lean forward over the laptop, fiddling with the machine.  Don't be one of them.  Start off with a power opening to grab attention. Remember, we are all self-focused and supremely interested in what happened to us this morning, what we need to do after the talk and what is coming up for us tomorrow. The speaker is competing with all of these high value items in the minds of the audience.  We need to supplant all of that inner-focus with our ideas, views, suggestions and recommendations.  Make sure to raise your voice tone from the get go, to set the energy level at the right point to carry through to the rest of the proceedings. It is very hard to start soft, then work your way up, so start strong then vary the tone from there. Keep your eyes on the crowd the whole time.  Read their faces.  Are they buying what you are saying, are they bored, are they surreptitiously or furtively looking at their phones under the table, are they nodding in agreement?  This is why, if some helpful venue flunkey turns the lights down, so that you are dominated by the screen, you should stop speaking immediately and ask for the lights to be brought back up.  In my experience, the moment those lights go down, a big proportion of a Japanese audience is lost, because they are sleeping.  It seems to be a bit like the rhythmic rocking of the trains here, that induces slumber.  Lights go down and off they go Pavlovian like, to the land of Nod.  I have seen that scenario play out a number of times here.  I find stopping speaking for about ten seconds interrupts the pattern and then resuming with a powerful burst of energy and voice volume wakes them right up again. Keep the main body to around three major points in a thirty minute talk.  Pile on the evidence though, because we are always speaking to a room full of sceptics recently force fed a diet of “fake news”.  Save the heavy detail for the Q& A, if you need it. Keep the points clear and accessible, pitched at the level of expertise of your audience.  Forego all the acronyms and jargon which appeal to the cognoscenti, if the audience are mere mortal ordinary punters. Don't get into arguments in the Q&A.  There may be hot questions hurled forth by provocateurs, self-aggrandising show offs, flouting their knowledge in front of the great unwashed.  Answer them to the best of your ability and then say sweetly, “let's continue this discussion after the talk.  Who has the next question” and move on, giving them no more eye contact or recognition for the rest of the talk. Always prepare a second close after the Q&A, so that you dominate the last item to linger in the memory banks of your audience.  The conversation triggered by a final question can be completely tangential or even totally unrelated to what you were there to talk about.  Don't let someone hijack your purpose. Seize back control of the point of this presentation, by unfurling your final close.  Thank the audience and then elegantly descend from the stage to mingle with the masses.  Leave everything on the podium and pack the gear up at the very end.  

"Unveiling the Alchemy of Consciousness with Professor Michael Levin on The Dov Baron Show" Introduction: Tune in to this episode of "The Dov Baron Show" for a journey that challenges the very foundations of what you believe about mind, body, and the potential of human consciousness. We're diving into the second part of our enlightening conversation with Professor Michael Levin. A distinguished professor at Tufts University and a pioneer in developmental biophysics and cognitive science. . Professor Levin brings us closer to understanding the interplay between genetic intelligence and consciousness. From the mysteries of cellular intelligence to the transformative potential of collective consciousness, prepare to rethink everything you know about your own mind and body. . Key Learnings: Expanding the Definition of Intelligence: Explore the intelligence embedded within our genetic architecture, revealing how cells and genes respond adaptively to external cues. . Consciousness vs. Intelligence: What's the distinction between consciousness and intelligence, emphasizing consciousness as a deeply personal, first-person experience that transcends empirical study. . The Impact of Epigenetics: Understand the significant role of epigenetics in shaping our genetic expression and responses, highlighting the dynamic interaction between our genes and environmental factors. . Collective Intelligence of Cells: Discover how the collective intelligence of cells contributes to the emergent properties of consciousness and how individual cells contribute to our unified sense of self. . Harnessing Cellular Memory: Learn about the remarkable ability of gene regulatory networks to exhibit memory and learning, akin to Pavlovian conditioning, which has profound implications for medical science. . The Alchemy of Consciousness: Reflect on consciousness as an alchemical process that transforms us, driven by curiosity and the willingness to explore the uncomfortable or unknown. . Pharmacology and Conscious Influence: Consider the future role of pharmacology not just as symptom management but as an interface for profound physiological and psychological changes. . Philosophical and Practical Implications: Engage with thought-provoking philosophical discussions on the nature of consciousness, its relationship with physical health, and the evolution of medicine to embrace these complex interactions. . . Dov Baron's brand new course has just been released on coursifyx.com/belonging ------------- Titled: "CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING." The course is divided into eight sections, each of which will guide you through exactly how to create a culture of belonging. . Because: CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING MAXIMIZES PERSONAL AND CORPORATE SUCCESS. Get Ready to strap on the tanks and Dive Deep into, What it Takes to Create a Culture of Belonging in your organization! Are you curious to know more? coursifyx.com/belonging .  "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe" #leadership #leadershipdevelopment #emotionsourcecode #neuroscience #emotional #meaning #emotional #logic #culture #curiosity #humanbehavior  

We continued our reflection upon the fathers' writing on fornication and the passion of lust. What becomes immediately clear is how much they prized this virtue and how important they saw it for the spiritual life as a whole. Purity of heart has always been connected, rightly wrongly, with purity on the level of sensuality. The fact that the fathers valued it so greatly also led them into a kind of fierce ascetic battle to attain it. At times they could fall into extremes and excess - leading to a weakening of the body almost to the point of death. They had to learn that the disciplining of the body through fasting, vigils and prayer is only part of the struggle. The more important element is relying upon the grace of God and trusting in him in the midst of the spiritual warfare. One of the things that have made this battle with fornication so difficult is the shame that is often associated with it; not only with the physical act itself, but the relentless thoughts that often afflict an individual. This shame often creates an internal agitation and anxiety that makes a person more vulnerable to seeking immediate physical relief. Shame also has led asceticism to be used as a defense mechanism, causing many to repress the desires that they have rather than allowing them to be transformed by the grace of God and by a growing attachment to and love for him.  Inevitably such repression will break down and the same desires will manifest themselves in an even stronger fashion. It is for this reason that the demons become the greatest accuser of one who has fallen into this particular sin. He knows that if he can lead them into despair and get them to give up on the hope for healing, he will be able to dismantle their spiritual life. Patience, endurance, the willingness to bear affliction without making concessions to the thoughts that afflict us – this is the path forward. Paired with clinging to the grace of God and the strength that comes through the holy sacraments, the disordered attachments begin to diminish. The fathers eventually discovered, as we have already seen, that it is important to avoid excess. If we are ruthless with ourselves, we can we can weaken ourselves not only physically, but also in terms of our resolve. Quite simply a person can grow so tired that they want to give up. We must always keep before our eyes, then, the heavenly bridegroom and the understanding that we wage the spiritual warfare, not in isolation, but surrounded by all the angels in the Saints. And even if we are to fall every single day, St. John Climacus tells us, and yet turn to God in repentance our guardian angel looks upon us with joy.  May God give us all not only the resolve to remain in the battle but an invincible hope in his grace and mercy. --- Text of chat during the group: 00:14:38 Cindy Moran: I studied 3 years with Dr Muto & Fr, Adrian   00:15:21 Bob Cihak, AZ: P. 181, # 4   00:15:28 Anna Lalonde: I'm interested in Spiritual Formation if you can share connections at some point.   00:15:39 Cindy Moran: ok!   00:32:08 santiagobua: We can start recieving after we bend the knee to the Lord, not before   00:32:55 Anna Lalonde: Humility and Holy Eucharist brings upon Chastity. Is that right?   00:33:54 Anthony: It would be helpful for a person in a moment of any moral suffering to distinguish actual sin from "spiritual warfare."   00:34:21 Anna Lalonde: Yes   00:58:42 Anthony: The image for me is a starfish opening a clam.  The clam tries as hard as it can to stay shut. The starfish wants to enter, and (I'm mixing metaphors), stick a knife in between the shells to cut off the victim from God and the land of the living.  That, for me, is the pure fear, of being cut off from hope and God.   01:08:53 Forrest Cavalier: This story #8 shows a wisdom in using the natural reactions of the physical body to abhor the sin for how deadly it is. It looks like good Pavlovian psychology.   01:11:55 Sheila: Salvation Army   01:14:09 Una: Is that Jack Sparks?   01:14:45 Una: Victory in the Unseen Warfare (red cover)   01:15:03 Una: Also Virtue in the Unseen Warfare (green cover)   01:15:09 Una: Fr. Jack Sparks   01:15:18 Rod Castillo: I've read it but in Spanish   01:16:40 Lilly: Thank you Father   01:17:19 Cindy Moran: Thank you, Father!   01:17:23 Cameron Jackson: Thank you Father!   01:17:25 Rebecca Thérèse: Thank you ☺️   01:17:28 Dave Warner | AL: Thank you Father!   01:17:28 ANDREW ADAMS: Thank you, Father!   01:17:28 Serene Lai: THank you Father!   01:17:37 Janine: Thank you Father!   01:17:51 Aric Bukiri: Thank you Father!  

How do plants communicate using sound? How do they remember previous stimuli that have proven not to be threat, when at first they seemed like one? Where is the memory encoded considering they have no brain? What are the implications for biology of plant memory? In this episode we cover the ground breaking topics in plant cognition studies of: plant intelligence, behaviour, memory and communication. The type of experiments presented here have never really been done before, because there has always been an assumption in plant science that the cellular cognition that all living cells have, relies solely on light, touch or chemical interactions; so it doesn't really permit for plant behaviour, memory and consciousness. So with my guest today, the first scientist to bypass the assumptions and try these tests, we're going to discuss her experiments with plants; that clearly show not only basic memory and the corresponding updated behaviour based on that memory, but even pavlovian memory, i.e. associative memory that requires arbitrary stimuli to take on meaning to the plant. Obviously all of this has massive implications for distributed memory and memory beyond brains. We're also going to get into plant medicine and other indigenous approaches to connecting with plant consciousness; and what plant communication and biophilia in general might do for our relationship to the natural world as we face imminent biosphere collapse. My guest is of course, the research associate professor of Evolutionary Ecology at several universities in Australia, Monica Gagliano. She's published over 60 scientific papers, across the fields of Ecology, Plant Cognition, Plant Communications and Marine Ecology. She is also the author of the books “The Language of Plants: Science, Philosophy and Literature”,  and the highly celebrated,“Thus Spoke the Plant, A remarkable Journey of Groundbreaking Scientific Discoveries and Personal Encounters”. What we discuss: 00:00  Intro 05:00 The consensus on Plant intelligence & communication. 09:20 The difference between reacting and responding in cognition. 10:00 Bio-acoustic communication between plants. 21:07 Possible methods for plants to percieve sound. 22:00 Response to gravity may be similar. 23:30 Her plant memory experiment with Mimosa. 27:15 ‘Habituation' learning: screening out non-useful stimuli. 32:15 The connection between hardship and accelerated adaptive learning. 37:50 Her ‘Pavlovian' associative memory experiment with peas. 46:10 The Implications of plant memory for modern biology.  49:25 Where is memory stored without a nervous system? 52:30 Monica's ethical crisis in animal studies. 01:00:00 ‘Pavlovian' associative memory experiment with peas. 01:01:30 ‘Dieta', amazonian plant communication practice. 01:05:00 Shamanic interface with plant wisdom, particularly for healing. 01:08:00 Reductionist materialist pushback is representative of the colonial history of abuse of nature. 01:11:00 Indigenous science and a new book in the making. References: Monica Gagliano, “Thus Spoke the Plant, A remarkable Journey of Groundbreaking Scientific Discoveries and Personal Encounters”. Gagliano, Manusco & Robert, “Towards Understanding Plant Bioacoustics” paper

Questioning authority is a necessity for a functioning democracy. Continually calling power to account has to be a good thing, right? Maybe not, at least not all the time. So argues today's guest, philosopher Mark Kingwell.Have we let “speaking truth to power” degenerate into a Pavlovian response to any and all real, or merely perceived, sources of authority? Has this drive to habitually challenge institutions endangered politics, academia, science, and journalism?Mark Kingwell joins Jesse to explore these questions which lay at the heart of his new book Question Authority.Host: Jesse BrownCredits: Caleb Thompson (Audio Editor/ Mixer), Bruce Thorson (Senior Producer), max collins (Production Manager), Jesse Brown (Editor and Publisher),Guest: Mark KingwellFurther reading:Question Authority - Mark Kingswell Upcoming BookCan we rescue civility in public discourse?Sponsors: Douglas: Douglas is giving our listeners a FREE Sleep Bundle with each mattress purchase. Get the sheets, pillows, mattress and pillow protectors FREE with your Douglas purchase today. Visit douglas.ca/canadaland to claim this offerPolicyMe: Head over to https://policyme.com and secure your Health and Dental coverage in just 5 minutes – no medical questions needed! Article: Article is offering our listeners $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more. To claim, visit article.com/canadaland and the discount will be automatically applied at checkoutExpress VPN: Get your money's worth at EXPRESSVPN.com/canadaland to get an extra three months of ExpressVPN for freeThis episode features the audio short “Street Piano Superstars” by James Archer (Montreal, QC), one of the finalists from the 2024 Local Correspondents Audio Competition, a CanadaLabs initiative. CanadaLabs, a hub for the next generation of audio journalists, is made possible with the support of Amazon Music, The Perspective Fund, and Canadaland Supporters. Be part of the solution to Canada's journalism crisis. Go to canadaland.com/join to become a yearly Canadaland Supporter today and get 3 months of perks and benefits for free. You can listen ad-free on Amazon Music—included with Prime.Additional Music is by Audio Network. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Pavlovian, Hawk, and Birthday lead us to what happens to unused bread in a bread basket, pawn shops, what to do with Birthday cards, and more.New episodes every Tuesday.Editing by: Julia WD HarrisonTheme by: Arne Parrott Logo by: Casey BordenYou can email the show at twapod@gmail.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Guests: Ross O'Neill Ph.D (Founding CEO) & Hubert Lim Ph.D (Chief Scientific Officer) of Neuromod Dave is joined by Ross & Hubert to discuss: - The backstory of how Ross & Hubert met and ultimately partnered together on Lenire - Hubert's research and papers he wrote about paired stimulation & Pavlovian conditioning, which included data that identified tongue stimulation combined with sound as a promising direction to pursue - An overview of what exactly tinnitus is and why Lenire presents such a novel approach to treating tinnitus - Other types of synchronous-stimuli approaches that have emerged in other healthcare verticals (i.e. mirror therapy for phantom limb pain) - The challenging process of gaining FDA approval and the clinical trials that were conducted throughout the process - Being featured as the cover story on Nature Communications - The initial roll-out of Lenire, the current state of the provider network, and the real-world data that's being collected and published

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Ever wondered why certain songs make you crave tacos and margaritas instantly? Tune in as we chat about the powerful, almost Pavlovian response to summer jams like "Volver Volver" and our neighbor's relentless Spanish guitar practice. We humorously consider hiring him for his unique talents while pondering whether playing cantina music regularly could solve our Mexican food cravings. Plus, we laugh about our unpredictable podcast schedule—affectionately dubbed "seasonal"—and share heartwarming moments that highlight life's quirks and surprises.From Margaret Thatcher's legacy to Kurt Cobain's tragic end, our conversation takes unexpected turns. We debate philosophical concepts like Plato's cave and stress inoculation, drawing from past episodes to reflect on their real-world applications. Recent political events and cultural phenomena like Trump, Hunter Biden, and the Met Gala also make an appearance. Plus, our foray into meditation with Sam Harris's app and a nostalgic look at college protests set the stage for a light-hearted cocktail debate: gimlet vs. giblet.In a more serious vein, we tackle the Israel-Palestine conflict, drawing parallels to local disputes within an HOA. Generational tensions and insights from a former SEAL Team Six member on high-stakes missions add depth to our dialogue. We then examine the intriguing notion of idea ownership, with historical nods to Tesla, Edison, and John Muir. As we wrap up, we discuss national parks' preservation, the impact of technological advancements, and even the dark history of the Donner Party. Join us for a blend of historical insight, cultural reflection, and plenty of laughs.

In the last week we have learned, per a court decision, the University of Colorado violated religious liberties by selectively enforcing injection exemptions, that former CDC directors are claiming they were censored for talking about side effects of those injections, that federally employed doctors are openly admitting genetic damage caused by those injections, that gyms were illegally closed down, that the former NIH director admitted there was zero science behind social distancing, and that former Governors have admitted they had zero authority to enforce mandates. We have also been told monkeypox, coronavirus, and bird flu are all circulating. While many are concerned over another round of psychological and biological experiments it may be possible that this blatant turn of events mixed with fear of another disease outbreak is nothing more than the pavlovian training to get the public to salivate on command, due to an unconscious response to trauma and fear.-FREE ARCHIVE & RSS: https://www.spreaker.com/show/the-secret-teachingsTwitter: https://twitter.com/TST___RadioFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/thesecretteachingsWEBSITE (BOOKS, RESUBSCRIBE for early show access): http://thesecretteachings.infoPaypal: rdgable@yahoo.comCashApp: $rdgableBuy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/tstradioSUBSCRIBE TO NETWORK: http://aftermath.mediaEMAIL: rdgable@yahoo.com / TSTRadio@protonmail.com

Anyone who's heard The Killers' "Mr. Brightside" has an almost Pavlovian response to the song's opening lines. It's hard to go anywhere in the world without watching a room or crowd immediately sing along to the synth-rock classic. First released in 2003, the group's unique sound mixed with Brandon Flowers' New Wave vocal delivery helped make this song about jealousy, deception and calling a cab one of the most irresistibly catchy hits in pop history. On this week's episode, hosts Brittany Spanos and Rob Sheffield discuss the story of “Mr. Brightside,” breaking down the song's gargantuan global success. From the Eighties pastiche of Hot Fuss to the song's entry into the pantheon of wedding DJ must-plays, the hosts unpack what it is about this single that has kept it charting in the UK for over 400 weeks. Later in the episode Rob and Brittany are joined by mixing engineer Mark Needham, who was working with members of Fleetwood Mac when he got the call to work with this burgeoning Las Vegas band. Needham was instrumental in developing the band and shares technical details about the recording process, the song's distinctive sound, and anecdotes about working with The Killers during their early days.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode Miles and Sofiya discuss multiple career ending knee injuries, Nicole being as severe as her haircut, hangry resentments and Pavlovian jizzponses, Emily's many, many, MANY Cameroonian faux pas, #TacoPastaGate, Rob's weird ass breakfast in bed and so much more!If you like the show Consider supporting us Click the links below! Join our livestreams on Twitch https://www.twitch.tv/420dayfiance Join our Discord server https://discord.gg/pr6wE9sK64 Gain access to The Vault and more https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/6354533 Buy our merch! https://www.420dayfiance.com/merch Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It was an internal struggle to come up with the name of this episode... Sean is back, and we are drafting food items that we love/want to eat from movies and television! They CAN be fictional, but most of the time, they are not...hence the level of difficulty. SO dig in and prepare to be in a Pavlovian experiment featuring all of your senses. Cheers!  

When your facing resistance to your writing, it can sometimes take a frustrating amount of time to work through. In today's episode, I have a quick trick for you to try to help bring you back to the page faster. Happy writing! Related Episodes: #13: Why Do You Resist Writing? #67: Create a Consistent Writing Practice in ONE Step #11: Is Your Writing Goal GOOD ENOUGH? Let's Connect: Instagram Threads Email --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/breaking-writers-block/message

Who's getting on your nerves lately? What was your last interaction with them like? Feel back into your body posture. How were you standing? How were you sitting? Where were you clenching? What emotion were you holding, tightly? I know it felt like that emotion had a hold on you, but it's always the other way around. Just as these thoughts that are not yours are always flowing through, and you're grasping at them, holding them, believing them, claiming them as who and what you are-- that emotion was just flowing through too.  With much practice, I found that I'm able to wake up in those moments of tightness, and just feel, just be with the tightness, without labeling it, without judging it, without giving it a cause, or trying to remedy it, trying to quell it. Sometimes I close my eyes on the interaction for a second, just to be with the feeling. The interaction is only happening so that you may feel that feeling finally and ask, "Is Love here, too? And feel That. Feel what's just beyond that strong, seemingly negative emotion. I feel My refuge. Feel It with me.  I Love You nik  Support the show: ▶▶https://www.patreon.com/goodmornings "Take refuge in the Guru, His power will flow into you." - Amma "Take safe refuge in the all-loving Lord!"- Alan Jacobs  "Then you have to jump back into yourself and take refuge in your self. When you take refuge in your self you become happy. When you take refuge in your self you have peace. When you take refuge in your self you have harmony, you have joy. It's a mystery to me why people would take refuge in the outside world, in person, place or thing, when you know the outside world is subject to the law of change, and is never the same continuously. So whatever you take refuge in becomes a disappointment, whether it's a person, place or thing." -Robert Adams "What I am finding is that when I settle back into emptiness, tension in the physical and emotional body decreases, and that this can be done in the middle of a tense personal interaction. That is, when I find myself getting upset or uptight, the unpleasantness of that becomes a sort of Pavlovian trigger reminding me of the dimension of inwardness. I'm not sure I even have a choice at that moment. I just find myself back here. The disagreement may continue, but I am not nearly as compelled to defend or assert "my" side of it. Realize I'm talking about very mild forms of disharmony. There are obviously nightmares that won't be dissipated by a shift of perspective. But being empty may still be the sanest and safest (because fearless) stance to take in such a situation. Some time ago I read about the experience of a Tibetan monk who was tortured horrendously over a period of years in a Chinese jail. He said that he survived psychologically by taking refuge in the Void and praying for the salvation of all sentient beings. J. via Headless.org

Dr. Scott Sherr is a Board Certified Internal Medicine Physician Certified to Practice Health Optimization Medicine (HOMe) and a specialist in Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy (HBOT).He the founder of HOMe-SF, the first HOMe clinic in the United states, and is also the Chief Operating Officer of Health Optimization Medicine and Practice (HOMe/HOPe)–USA, a nonprofit education company pioneered training doctors and healthcare practitioners how to detect and correct the root causes of health, not disease. In addition, Dr. Scott is also COO of Smarter Not Harder, the for-profit arm of HOMeHOPe.  SNH is the company behind Troscriptions, a line of buccal troches that are Democratizing Enlightenment by addressing the bottlenecks along the path to optimal health. They have three products on the market now including Blue Cannatine, Just Blue, and Tro Calm. Dr. Scott's clinical practice includes HOMe as it's foundation plus an integrative approach to hyperbaric oxygen therapy that includes cutting edge and dynamic HBOT protocols, comprehensive laboratory testing (using the HOMe framework), targeted supplementation, personal practices, synergistic technologies (new and ancient), and more.He has also consulted on a number of wellness projects including the Bulletproof Lab (LA), Remedy Place (LA), LMS Wellness (London), Beyond Clinic (Australia), and many others. Dr. Scott lives in Louisville, CO with his wife and his 4 children. SHOWNOTES:

Hello! We're back to our regularly scheduled programming! This week we're talking all about FEELINGS!o friendshipso dino reproductiono How we are Pavlovian slaves to our seminar luncho Work life balanceo Cliques in grad schoolo Hobbieso Finding peace in alone timeo Dealing with burnouto Consumerism and womeno Beef w mentor/PIo Sleep healtho How to hold on to the end of your rope

Harness the transformative power of the power nap (falling asleep not required!), where music becomes the secret ingredient for rejuvenation. Discover how a carefully curated playlist, like a Pavlovian trigger, can guide your mind into a state of restful calmness. Craft your own bespoke power nap playlist and emerge refreshed for the challenges ahead. Links and notes related to this episode can be found at https://mpetersonmusic.com/podcast/micro5 Connect with us: Newsletter: https://mpetersonmusic.com/subscribe Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EnhanceLifeMusic/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enhancelifemusic/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mpetersonpiano/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/musicenhances Sponsorship information: https://mpetersonmusic.com/podcast/sponsor Leave us a review on Podchaser.com! https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/enhance-life-with-music-909096  

How do you switch gears from the world of academic neuroscience to the fast-paced neurotech industry? What kind of hurdles might pop up, and how do you leap over them? And what's the secret sauce for blending neuroscience know-how with top-notch neurotech development? Say hello to Walter Piper, PhD, who's made the jump and soared from delving into the depths of the brain in academia to pioneering data science for brain-computer interfaces (BCIs) at Neurable. Welcome to the "Neurocareers: Doing the Impossible!" podcast and its fresh episode, "A Leap from Academia to Industry: Data Science for BCIs with Walter Piper, PhD, at Neurable." Dr. Walter Piper shares with us his extraordinary career journey from neural circuits behind stress to creating AI-powered algorithms for BCIs. Walter's academic creds are impressive, with a suitcase packed with achievements, including six published research articles and a chapter in the Encyclopedia of Mental Health. But here's the twist: he decided to leave academia and leap into the neurotech industry. Was Walter's path a straight line? Sometimes, yes, but at times, it felt more of a climb, scramble, and occasionally a sprint, especially with the whole pandemic backdrop. He swapped his lab coat for a data scientist's hat by diving into Springboard's data science BootCamp, learning Python, and doing some heavy lifting with networking—all online. The result? He landed at Neurable, where he's now doing what seems like magic: meshing neuroscience, psychology, and tech to invent BCIs! So, what's Walter's story? How did he tackle the big move? What's his day like at Neurable, and what BCI wizardry is he creating with his team? If you're curious about the nuts and bolts of neurotech, want to hear about a day in the life of a neurotech whiz, or just need a nudge to make your own leap into something new, this episode's for you. Tune in, sit back, and dive into the fascinating, mind-bending world of neurotech with Dr. Walter Piper! Enjoy! About the Podcast Guest: Walter T. Piper, Ph.D., is a research engineer at Neurable, where he applies his background in neuroscience, psychology, and data science to create EEG algorithms and AI tools for Neurable's brain-computer interfaces. Walter's professional journey started with a decade of research in academic neuroscience, where he studied neural and molecular circuits responsible for Pavlovian conditioning, stress, and social dynamics. Upon finishing his PhD in 2020, Walter switched his focus to data science and industry, aiming to bring neuroscience out of the lab and into the lives of consumers. He navigated this career transition during the pandemic by doing Springboard's data science bootcamp and networking online, ultimately arriving at Neurable. Helpful links: Neurable: https://www.neurable.io/ Springboard (data science bootcamp): https://www.springboard.com/ NeuroTechX (networking resource): https://neurotechx.com/ NeuroMatch Academy (educational resource): https://academy.neuromatch.io/ About Neurable: Neurable is a Boston-based neurotechnology company spun out of the University of Michigan's Direct-Brain Interface Laboratory. Its vision is to make neurotechnology easily accessible to everyone, everywhere. With 10+ years of scientific development, Neurable's proprietary tech platform cleans and interprets brain waves, enabling high-performing EEG sensors to be seamlessly integrated into everyday devices. Their first consumer product, created in collaboration with Master & Dynamic, is a premium headphones-integrated brain-computer-interface (BCI) device that uses brainwave sensors and algorithms to robustly estimate focus. This device enables users to build better work habits, improve work efficiency, and prevent burnout. Neurable is building an intelligent layer between the brain and computers. Powered by patented signal processing, developed through decades of pioneering research across leading labs and institutions, and advanced by a leading scientific and expert product team, the Neurable AI platform enables high-performance brain-computer interface in everyday devices. About the Podcast Host: The Neurocareers podcast is brought to you by The Institute of Neuroapproaches (https://www.neuroapproaches.org/) and its founder, Milena Korostenskaja, Ph.D. (Dr. K), a neuroscience educator, research consultant, and career coach for people in neuroscience and neurotechnologies. As a professional coach with a background in the field, Dr. K understands the unique challenges and opportunities job applicants face in this field and can provide personalized coaching and support to help you succeed. 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“Because it's very difficult to be different and distinctive and you kind of need both of them in this modern advertising world because everything's so fragmented. Um, people are not just sitting down at the TV at a certain time or listening to the radio together. You know, it's a much more solo experience than it was when we were growing up. And I think lots of people aren't seeing the same stuff or hearing the same stuff. And so therefore it's very difficult for brands to make an impact.” -- Josh Butt This week's episode is the second half of my conversation with award-winning content creator, sonic branding expert, and Ampel co-founder and Chief Production Officer, Josh Butt as we talk about the shifting podcast marketing landscape, the rise of audio AI and its impact on the industry, and which famous sonic logo still triggers a Pavlovian cue in Josh's brain even decades later.As always, if you have questions for my guest, you're welcome to reach out through the links in the show notes. If you have questions for me, visit audiobrandingpodcast.com where you'll find a lot of ways to get in touch. You can also join regular Clubhouse chats in The Power of Sound House every Wednesday (check the schedule for times). Plus, subscribing to the newsletter will let you know when the new podcasts are available, when new audio rooms are scheduled and what they'll be about, and it'll give you access to a resource called The Studio with lots of interesting sound-related mp3s, videos, educational pdfs, and exclusive discounts from previous guests.If you're getting some value from listening, the best ways to show your support are to share this podcast with a friend and leave an honest review. Both those things really help – and I'd love to feature your review on future podcasts. You can leave one either in written or in voice format from the podcast's main page. I would so appreciate that. (0:00:01) - The Importance of Sound in MarketingThe second half of our discussion starts with some of the most famous sonic brands of the decade, some of which have reinvented themselves while others found a tried-and-true sound. “They spent a lot of money and time and efforts,” he says about HBO's distinctive melody, “to figure out if they should change it and the answer was no, and bravo, because, they didn't need to change it.” We talk about the increasingly crowded podcast market, with advertising expected to double within the next two years. “Everyone wants a podcast,” Josh says. “Everyone wants an ad, Everyone wants a sound.” (0:20:29) - Evolution of Sonic BrandsWe also discuss the breakthrough in AI over the past year, particularly in sound and music, and what it means for both brands and content creators. “Well, we're gonna hear a lot about AI voices and AI music,” he says, “and I think you know we should jump on that.” Josh also tells us about the dangers AI music might pose, from creator livelihoods to a homogeneous sound that makes it more difficult to stand out. “They've got a big problem,” he explains, “because they're gonna end up being very bland... it won't be distinctive, it won't be memorable, it won't be hummable, it won't be singable.” (0:23:56) - Branding and Advertising in Media LandscapeWe also talk about the power of sound to shape lifelong impressions and Pavlovian habits, whether it's Intel's unforgettable four-note logo or, in Josh's case, EA Sports' classic “It's in the Game” motto. “You know it's a game,” he says, “but the Pavlovian response that exists... it...

Do you find yourself easily distracted by the flow of notifications from your phone? You're not alone. But just how bad are we getting and are there ways we can not be a slave to the phone dinging in our pockets? In this episode of The Quicky we take a look at what impact the constant notifications is doing to our brains and whether or not we can really do anything to stop our addiction to the notification grind.  Want to try our new exercise app? Click here to start a seven day free trial of MOVE by Mamamia. Subscribe to Mamamia GET IN TOUCH Feedback? We're listening! Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au CONTACT US Got a topic you'd like us to cover? Send us an email at thequicky@mamamia.com.au CREDITS  Host: Claire Murphy With thanks to:  Dr Mark Williams - Professor of Cognitive Neuroscience Carly Dober - Psychologist and Director at the Australian Association of Psychologists Producer: Claire Murphy Executive Producer: Kally Borg Audio Producer: Thom LionBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hello Interactors,It's been a while since we've been together. I took some time over the holiday break. We often think of parents spoiling kids upon their return from college, but I'm the one who feels spoiled.We're squarely in the winter season up north and that means I'll be exploring human behavior. With all the talk of AI, I thought I'd start with its root inspiration — the neuron. How did these come to be?Let's find out.As I stand here today, the earth's declination angle is slowly inching toward zero as its orbital tilt brings us closer to spring. This will trigger a host of biological and biochemical chain reactions. Plants awake, buds break, birds migrate, insects propagate, amphibians' mate, seeds germinate, furs abate, and soils emanate. Algae plumes bloom, and our own metabolism's resume.This shared sensing of environmental change makes common sense because we can sense it with our own senses. Less common is making sense of what we can't sense. That's what I'm trying to make sense of. Let's start with cells.Cells can also make sense of their environment, and of each other. Consensus belief says cellular life emerged nearly 3.7 billion years ago on a rotating and orbiting earth that had already been oscillating in a predictable pattern for 750 million years. Early cellular organisms learned to predict these patterns, as the theory goes, getting an evolutionary leg up on the competition. This knowledge was then stored in the cell. I was surprised to learn a cell can store information.Ricard Solé is a prominent researcher who applies complex systems concepts to biology. He explained in a recent podcast how cells perform associative learning through reactions to different external stimuli — a process fundamental to the evolution of cognition. This learning involves associating a specific signal with a stressor in a cell's environment. Over time, they learn to respond to the signal, even in the absence of the original stressor. A bit like a Pavlovian response.This information is then stored within the cell. Cells have complex signaling networks that gather information from the cell membrane and transmit it internally from the membrane to the genome or nucleus. These signals act as boolean "genetic switches." The switch involves pairs of genes that negatively regulate each other, creating a kind of memory storage system. As one gene tries to regulate the other, that gene is trying to do the same. Like two magnets competing to repel or attract. This leads to a binary outcome — the conflict produces a specific protein, or it does not. This process is akin to the binary electronic circuitry found in signaling networks used to process and store information on a computer. (more on that in future posts on this topic)Cells that can respond to the environment, or conditions within itself, can secrete something into their environment. But if there are no other cells to receive them as signals or with the intention to propagate their stored information, this operation serves no function. Over evolutionary time, however, cells began to form functionalities. For example, through expressions formed from their genetic circuitry, the cells that make up your liver and kidney evolved to conduct basic metabolic functions. Meanwhile, the cells that make up neurons in your brain evolved to send and receive information — to communicate with each other. A major step in evolution.Another major evolutionary step, according to Solé, came with interneurons. These are neurons that form connections between sensory neurons to process information between them. Many neurons connected by many interneurons form arrays of neural circuits capable of more complex information processing. Organisms that don't have interneurons, like plants, pose a real biological and evolutionary disadvantage among energy competing biological organisms. Though, they created their own biological functions that are so wondrous they induce jealousy, like photosynthesis. Imagine getting fed by lying in the sun with your feet in the sand. Did I mention it's winter in the gloomy northwest?Solé believes the invention of interneurons provided the critical step toward a key component in the evolution of complex organisms like us, but also organisms that came before us like jellyfish. Jellyfish are made of a distributed ‘nerve net' composed of sensory neurons, motor neurons, and interneurons similar to ours. This network conducts basic processing for various sensory and motor functions. For example, it can sense elements of its environment, like water currents and temperatures, which then trigger responses like swimming or eating.Directed locomotion in response to sensory information processing serves as another critical step on the path of evolution — predation. Not only is the jellyfish sensing the water around them, but they're also sensing the presence of predators and their nervous system conspires to act accordingly. As remarkable and complex a jellyfish is at storing information that allows it to predict and act to internal and external stimuli, it took another evolutionary leap to yield the kind of complex neural networks and biological systems we humans rely on.In the words of Ricard Solé, “we tend to think [we humans], unfortunately for our planet, [] have been very, very successful.” He considers humans ‘ecological engineers' because we can “transform the planet by changing flows of energy and matter at massive scales.” The question remains (as we transform the planet in ways that make it harder for us and the organisms we rely on to survive) is our evolutionary journey entering a phase transition? Are we teaching our cells a new lesson to be stored away for future generations, or another failed biological experiment nearing the end of the relentless and brutal path of evolutionary trial and error?Paraphrasing the esteemed biologist E. O. Wilson, Solé offers that “if humans were not here, there would be the planet of the ants”. Ants have a form of collective intelligence that also allow them to transform the planet at massive scales, but to also survive seemingly insurmountable odds. Is there something to be learned from ants? An ant, on its own, is as unremarkable as it is doomed. Can the same be said for us? Who are we without other humans? And even when we're alone, are we really? We host an entire ecosystem of microorganisms for which we are mutually dependent for survival. Some feed on us, some try to kill us, while others conspire with our cells in competition and collaboration to make sense of each other — including the cells that make neurons. What kind of intelligence will they we need to survive another trip around the sun? This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit interplace.io

Are you ready to become the architect of your own success? This episode is a catalyst for inspiring business transformations. Anne and Lau uncover exciting possibilities that come with starting something new, and guide you on how to kindle creativity for innovative ideas. Discover how the power of writing can become a game-changer for your creativity and personal development. Delve into how expressing your thoughts and ideas on paper encourages new, innovative ideas. Learn why feedback is crucial, and the profound impacts a business mentor can have on your business. The BOSSES emphasize patience, persistence, and maintaining an abundant mindset when investing in yourself and your business. From successful direct marketing strategies to the creation of tangible proofs of concept, we've got you covered. Let's level up your business together! Transcript 00:01 - Intro (Announcement) It's time to take your business to the next level, the boss level. These are the premier business owner strategies and successes being utilized by the industry's top talent today. Rock your business like a boss, a VO boss. Now let's welcome your host, Anne Ganguzza.  00:20 - Anne (Host) Hey everyone, welcome to the VEO Boss Podcast and the Boss Superpower Series. I'm your host, Anne Ganguzza, along with my amazing special guest co-host Lau Laupides. 00:33 - Lau (Host) And how are you? Welcome to be back. I'm fabulous. How are you?  00:37 - Anne (Host) It's a brand new day. Lau, it's a brand new day. It's a new year. I am excited, Speaking of new. I think it's time for us to maybe talk about setting goals, starting something new. I always get a great thrill, a great anticipation and excitement when I start something new, and I think it's something that can really help bosses to grow their businesses, to be continually moving forward and progressing, and I think it's wonderful to challenge ourselves. What about you? I?  01:06 - Lau (Host) love it. I would love to do some tips on how we can start something new, because it's that feng shui of your soul, your spirit, your closet, your studio, your whatever, your car, your relationship. It's like how do I not only cleanse and clean things out, but how do I make the fire happen, how do I create it? And do it on a reguLaur basis as a soloprenor, as an entrepreneur? That's what our job is. It's really to constantly create things. Create, that's why we're creatives. That's why we're creatives.  01:37 - Anne (Host) Yes, and we really need to embrace. Embrace the creativeness, even if you feel that you're not creative, right, and you feel, and it's scary, I'll tell you a lot it's scary to start new things, because what if we fail? Right.  01:49 - Intro (Announcement) What if it doesn't work?  01:51 - Anne (Host) What are we going to do? And so I think that there's a lot of anguish that happens before we start something new, or goodness gracious knows that I can procrastinate along with the best of them right, but once I get a focus right.  02:04 I'm focused, but I'll tell you what. Getting started and starting something new A lot of times I know that bosses will be like I don't even know where to start. So what are some tips on? How can we generate new ideas right? I mean, some of them can come from within ourselves, but I'll tell you what. There's technology out there that can help us to maybe spur some new ideas for how to grow our business right.  02:26 - Lau (Host) I would have a little something, a little trinket, a mechanism, a toy or whatever. That is your reset button, that's your little thing that you go to. I used to have staples button.  02:35 - Anne (Host) When I worked with staples. Yes, that was easy.  02:37 - Lau (Host) I literally hit it on my desk and go boom, that was easy, so you need something physical in your environment whether it's a stuffed  02:46 animal, whether it's a little bell, a little bell or something. It sounds ridiculous, but I'm telling you your brain takes recording really well. Ironically, we're in the business of recording everything. We do, everything we say, every move we make. We're being recorded. So every time you do that little Pavlovian dog behavioral thing, your brain goes something good is coming, something new is happening. I'm going to accept it into the reality that I want safety, I want comfort and I want to know exactly what's coming up. So it's going to reset that for you, so that you've got a mindset focus reset before you do anything. I think that's really important.  03:26 - Anne (Host) I feel like we could do a search on Amazon or something and something like a reset button or a new button or something that will help us. So if you're looking for that physical thing, that button to push, or there's always the staple, that's easy button, which I love.  03:39 - Intro (Announcement) I had a bell and that kind of thing.  03:40 - Anne (Host) But, yeah, I like that. That's a good start now. So what? What are we going to do? That's new. How are we going to come up with ideas? I think a lot of us have ideas on what we'd like to do to move our business forward. Oh, build a new studio. Maybe there's roadblocks, right, but these roadblocks can actually, I think, motivate us to get started on something new, because we can then work towards achieving our goal, and I don't want this to necessarily turn into the goal achieving episode but it's very simiLaur.  04:07 Because what if? Okay, I want to start something new, I want to go into a different genre of voiceover, or I want to build a new studio, or I want to rearrange my office space right so it's more conducive to working more efficiently? Whatever it might be, I think it starts with the idea and it starts with that little thing. Here we go Right now. What are the steps that it's going to take to get there right, To start this, to actually accomplish this?  04:35 - Lau (Host) By the way, you could go very Eastern philosophy. You could do either a gong or you could do some chimes. I love the chimes. The chimes is really cool to my ear. I have tincture bells.  04:44 - Anne (Host) I don't know if those of you out there.  04:45 - Intro (Announcement) I love tincture bells.  04:47 - Anne (Host) Tincture bells are, I think, very good vibrations and good energy, and tincture bells are just a beautiful sounding bell.  04:53 - Lau (Host) All right, I have a really cool exercise, annie, that I use for a number of the soloprenore cLausses that I teach, that I myself love doing, and that is we put on some really cool music. My favorite is bonobo. We put on some fabulous music and we do like a timed brain dump, and the timed brain dump usually for me is six minutes, but it could be whatever you choose, and it's a time where we put on that music. We focus our pen or pencil on the paper. Now we are not allowed to pick the pen or pencil up for six minutes, meaning I don't allow critiquing, I don't allow editing, I don't allow review. It's not grammatically correct. It is a creative writing exercise for you to dump out everything in your brain, refocus. But, most importantly, Wait.  05:41 - Anne (Host) You don't pick up the pen until six minutes, and then, after six minutes, you pick up the pen.  05:46 - Lau (Host) No, it doesn't matter what you're writing. You're allowing your subconscious to drain itself. So that you and your intellect have nothing to do with it. It's really about so you're not writing. You're dumping, You're writing. You're actually writing what you're dumping.  06:00 - Anne (Host) Oh, I thought you said you don't pick up the pen.  06:02 - Lau (Host) Well meaning, you don't pick up the pen to stop writing, you keep your pen to the paper.  06:06 Oh, I see, I see, I see and you write and it can be tiring, it can be physically demanding for people who are not used to writing, but it's important because we get in the way so much of the ideas Like we got to get ideas out there before we can dissect them or critique them and sometimes nothing comes of it. But oftentimes there are things lodged in our brain that are either exciting us, bothering us, sticking, coming back, that we need to awaken and pay attention to, for that new idea.  06:37 - Anne (Host) Now, during this exercise, you're writing everything that's coming into your brain Everything, Even if it's not a new idea right, even if it's like oh my gosh. What are we going to have for dinner tonight? Or I'm hungry. Or okay, even that.  06:48 - Lau (Host) Okay, it's a total stream of consciousness. They used to use this in psychotherapy, where you would speak it out loud, but I like the privacy of being able to write it because you're not necessarily sharing it with anyone, absolutely Unless you choose to. It's really for your own purpose of writing everything out, so it might look like oh, I'm hot right now and I need a banana and that coffee hurts me. And he sucked. And why did he break?  07:12 - Anne (Host) up with me and I don't have money for a microphone. I need a banana. I need a banana right now.  07:18 - Lau (Host) Right, but see, notice that banana jumped out at you. That may be my next creative idea about the banana, about the banana.  07:26 - Anne (Host) I love it. No, I love that. Okay, and so after six minutes, then what happens? We've got a bunch of writings on our paper.  07:32 - Lau (Host) Well, that's up to us how we want to facilitate that. We can either leave it alone, put it in our corner where we put our writing and just feel like we've been drained a little bit, we've been fungshuated a little bit, or we can look at that in my coaching. I'll look at that a lot, circle and have people pick out yes. Emphasize the words, the ideas that resonate to them in that moment.  07:54 - Anne (Host) I love that.  07:55 - Lau (Host) And usually there's a couple in there. I love that. Usually there's like hate my mother oh, that's interesting. Hate your mother Okay. So let's look at that right. And then that can go in many, many directions. It could be anything. It could be comedy, sure. It could be absurd. It could be not even a reality in your mind. It could be a podcast on your mother Right. It could be something. It could be the evolution of a podcast on your mother.  08:17 - Anne (Host) It could be a film.  08:18 - Lau (Host) I saw that was called Hate my Mother, and I can't get it out of my head because I love how they shot something or I love the sound of the film.  08:26 - Anne (Host) See, as you go deeper into that, right, did you love about it? It sparked something creative, like you could do this. Yes, or we should do something like this, or, you know, it would be cool if this were developed. I have so many good ideas. How many times bosses out there have you had an idea and you're like, oh man, or you'll see a new thing that comes out, a new gadget, and you'd be like man, I had that idea, that was my idea, like years ago, right, and we never really kind of took action on it. And a lot of times it's because it is something new.  08:56 There's not a lot of things out there to reference it. We don't know quite how to wrap our heads around it. We don't know how to get started, we don't know how to maybe put it into action. And I'll tell you what. I think that those circled words or whatever those things that are in your brain. You can then start to say, all right, how can I make this happen?  09:15 And if this is going to be something, hopefully it's something that will move you ahead in your business. And I'm a big believer that if you're moving ahead in your personal development, you're also moving ahead in your business Because, again, our business is so much connected to who we are and ourselves and so really that can be motivational to really moving forward. So, yeah, you've got those ideas. Now what is it going to take to put those ideas in motion? What is it going to take? And a lot of times people might say, well, money, okay, all right, money might be what you consider to be your barrier, right, but we can figure out what are ways to overcome that barrier of money. How can we make more money? How can we put some money aside every month to be able to continually add to the budget to make this happen?  10:01 - Lau (Host) Mm-hmm. I also find, annie, that when you write something down, it becomes more real when you pull it out of your head. I agree it's not real in your head. I mean just because this is what neurosurgeon had famous talks. Just because you're thinking it doesn't mean it's real. It doesn't mean it's true right, like I need to hear that from a neurosurgeon. But it's true because when I think it, I think that it's actually true.  10:24 But when I put it on paper, all of a sudden I can clean that shop, I can decipher it differently, like what I want to be tackling, what I don't want to be tackling, right. So when I tackle it, when I say I'm gonna emphasize that I'm gonna tackle that I and this is just my process I like to start sharing that with confidence. I like to start coming together and colLauborating and brainstorming before I even get to money and budgets and all that stuff. I like to come with someone and say am I crazy? Am I sane? Is this worth time? What do you think? And if I hear this common response of ooh, that's interesting, yeah, that's cool.  11:00 - Anne (Host) It inspires me, or would you buy this, or would this be something that you would like, or that kind of thing?  11:06 - Lau (Host) Absolutely, absolutely cuz it's not real yet in my mind it's not even real if I believe in it yet. I want to see what our community response is. I don't share it with a million people, but I share with a few confidants to see what their gauges. I'm gonna tell you.  11:19 - Anne (Host) For years now for oh gosh, probably 15 years I have had a business mentor, somebody that I meet with, and I used to meet with her a whole lot more when I was first Initially starting in the business. But we could brainstorm together right, how can I grow my business, what do I see for myself in the future and what does it gonna take to get there? And we still do that to this day. It was, again, outside of my account and I always love my account, but one of the best investments I ever made in my business was hiring her to be that and she's not necessarily in the business, right, so somebody that can help me to figure out. Okay, what's new? Right, and we actively talk about things at the end of the year or at the beginning of the year like what's new. But I think, more importantly, it's not just end of year, beginning of year, it is every month. Right, I have a standing appointment with her every month and we talk about okay, what are we gonna do now? What are we heading towards? What are we evolving towards? And we talk about having a pLaun B for your business or a parallel paths of passive income. I love that parallel path of passive income. We've got a lot of peas in there, and good thing I'm not too close to my mic, but those things are always Evolved and developed during those monthly meetings.  12:29 Now I think it's something that you can absolutely start every month yourself or put yourself on.  12:34 I think every month is good to be able to come up with new ideas, come up with new things to try. It doesn't have to be an entirely new idea, but it can be a new offshoot Based upon, let's say, a long-term goal you have of oh, I want to be able to do animation, and so that may be a long term goal. So then, what's a new goal for next month? Well, let's decide on a coach, right, let's start working with a coach. Let's call a series of coaches and let's see who I click with, right, and then let's do one session with each coach and then really find out who I jive, who I meld with, and then we can then start training. So it can be something new every single month, and I think that really helps you to gosh. Stagnation for me is the worst. That is when I think nothing moves forward. Their businesses don't move forward, and then people end up maybe not being in business anymore, or quitting or being discouraged.  13:27 - Lau (Host) Exactly that's when you start getting down on yourself and you become a saboteur and you sabotage things. So yes, I'm all for that, and I'll even say to piggyback onto that find groups or find specific moments of events that you can sit in on or be a part of that. You can conjure ideas up as you listen to the group. Be careful of not spending your whole time, your whole week, in groups, because then that can confuse you because you're going to hear a lot of ideas and a lot of different thoughts.  13:55 A lot of opinions, but pick and choose yeah, pick and choose your group really, really well and wisely, so that what you hear, you know, is coming from a very high level and that will help inspire ideas. That, oh, I never thought of that. I never thought that they would view me in that way. I never thought of that kind of project that can be an inspirational force as well.  14:14 - Anne (Host) Now there can be times when I feel like you can have so many ideas that it's overwhelming right, and then it's like no ideas at all get developed right.  14:22 So you want to be careful of overwhelming yourself with new ideas, and I'm going to say that goals are wonderful.  14:28 I'm thinking ideas, they evolve into goals.  14:30 But I think ideas are wonderful because it's just a great like inspirational spot to start from and then I think it can turn into a goal based upon the market, based upon realism, based upon okay, I've got an idea for an extension of my business, but then maybe when you talk it over with some people, you find that maybe there isn't a ton of demand out there for it, because it can be a cool idea, but in order to turn a profit, it has to appeal to other people too. So there's got to be time spent in researching those ideas to make sure. Are you going to spend the time and effort in developing them further? And so try not to overwhelm. I love that you said be careful with being part of too many accountability groups or too many groups, because, yes, you can get too many opinions, you can get too many ideas. Here you should do it this way. Here you should work with this coach, here you should get this demo and then you're confused and then you're like, oh God, I just don't even know what to do.  15:26 I think, honestly, if we sit down, I love the brain dump on the paper. I think that is really amazing because that is starting with you. It's starting with your desires, your passions, whatever you're feeling, and I feel like, rather than somebody telling you this is what you should do, here's what you have a gut feeling about. I'm a big believer in your gut right. This is what I'm passionate about, and if you're passionate about it, you're going to have the motivation to go and get it.  15:52 - Lau (Host) Yes, and here's a role pLauy for you. I do this with myself all the time and it makes me feel so good, something neutralizing about it. I'll refer to myself as a creative agency or the idea person of an advertising agency. Those are the people who would sit around drinking soda, hitting hoops in their offices and just shooting the Dick Van Dyke ideas all night long.  16:17 - Intro (Announcement) Absolutely.  16:18 - Lau (Host) Being unafraid to do that, but I would structure it. I would say, okay, we can do this day and night. I know I can do a day and night structure. Say, listen, one week out of the month or three days out of the month are my idea days. Those are days that I'm brain dumping. I'm talking to people, I'm sitting in on groups and I'm coming up with my top three prioritized ideas so that it doesn't become but I have 50. What do I do with the 50?  16:43 No, let me see if I can come up with three and then choose the one that I actually might want to take action on so that I'm structuring my time and I'm structuring through priority as well, and then I'm also giving a deadline too and saying if this doesn't materialize in three months in some real way, I'm going to shelf it until Lauter.  17:03 - Anne (Host) I like that I kind of reLaute it to when people come to me and they say, well, I don't know what genre I should study voiceover, and we'll talk about okay. So what do you do now? Do you have a corporate job? Are you an actor? Do you have a side hustle? However, that is, and a lot of times it'll come down to okay, it'll be easy for you to step into this genre because you've got experience in it. Let's say I'm talking to a teacher. I'm like well, look, you already teach. You already have a concept of what it takes to be a good teacher. So stepping into the e-learning genre might work really well for you. However, you might have another loftier idea that you want to get into animation, right, Well, you can develop the one that you step into a little bit easier so that that will help you to then make some money while you're also pursuing the other goal, and I think that that usually works out really well.  17:49 And I like to equate the whole doing something new and the inspiration to my demo creation process, because for every student right, that end goal of a demo to me is a creative process. It is a creation, it's a song, it is something that is completely unique for each and every student, and for me the process is the same. To get there, there's a lot of work that is involved, but there's a lot of time where, yeah, I sit there and throw the crumpled paper into the basket because there's the creative inspiration that's happening to really just bring it all together and to make it amazing, and so I can really appreciate that part. And each and every time and each and every demo becomes like one of those new things that I'm accomplishing, and I cannot tell you how satisfying that is, because at the end, I'm like yes.  18:39 And I can see it. When I'm getting towards the end of creating the demo for the student, I'm like, oh, oh, oh, it's coming together. It's oh my God, yes, and now I'm going to do that. Oh, yes, oh, now, okay, now I'm seeing it come together and that, to me, is exhiLaurating. It's exhiLaurating.  18:53 It's kind of like the way I attribute starting something new in your business. Right, you get that idea, you're like this could be really cool and now, how am I going to get there? And then you do steps to work to get there, to get there, to get there, you sit there, you shoot a few crumpled pieces of paper and you think about it.  19:08 You sleep on it and then the next morning you get up and you go oh, let me try that Right. And then, when it starts to come together, that's the most amazing thing.  19:17 - Lau (Host) See, that's really the thing, because I find that, with creatives, one of the sticking points for most creatives, no matter how successful they are, is the execution of things. It's getting through what I call the theater days technical rehearsal.  19:31 That's the worst, dirtiest, muddiest, ugliest, disgusting. Like what have we worked on? It looks like yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, and then it just comes together, right. So you have to be able in your business, you can see it right. Yeah, you have to be able to move through that disgusting kind of uncomfortable kind of like, but I worked on this for months. Why does it look this way or feel this way? Right, I was going to give another tip too, annie. I was thinking you know, if you get together with that confidant, with that person, with that creative buddy, make use of that time by doing a structured business improv with them saying I'm going to take 20 minutes with you, 30 minutes, here's my goal. If you want to work on yours, work on yours. But I want to talk out. I want to talk out this idea I have, that I'm looking to execute, and you ask me questions and you shoot, you fire, you do things to make me think about it and give you more real response.  20:25 Cause it takes it off the paper and makes it even more real when you have to speak about it to someone.  20:31 - Anne (Host) Absolutely, absolutely. I mean it's not just on the paper and you looking at it, going okay, and then you don't look at the paper. That's kind of like when you do write things down right and you have goals. I'm a big believer in putting them somewhere where you can keep looking at them. I mean, they can't just stick in your brain.  20:46 If they stick in your brain. It's easy for them to just, oh, I lost it when to go and you can forget about it. But having those in front of you and also talking it out with somebody, like I said, when I come back to meet with my business mentor in another month, she'll be saying to me okay, so what did you do about this? Or how are we moving on? And I'm in the process of that right now. I'm making a shift to another cool part of the business that I want to open and I don't quite know what I'm doing, and it's one of those things where it's going to take me some time. But it's okay, I'm patient with myself because it's going to be kind of a cool path that I've not explored before.  21:20 - Lau (Host) So I'm patient with myself.  21:22 - Anne (Host) So I think you need to be patient with yourself. So many of us are not patient when it comes to oh my God, I want to be a voiceover actor and how come I'm not making money. All of a sudden, it becomes like well, okay. And the same thing with marketing. I'll tell you, I have people that we offer the boss. Bless. That we've talked about multiple times and and I always talked to people about direct marketing right, marketing yourself is one thing. Again, you're putting things out into the universe and again, when are you going to be able to collect on them? So I made an investment. It could be a financial investment, a time investment, whatever that is Well, all of a sudden. Well, it's been three months, why haven't I gotten anything? It's been 12 months, why haven't I gotten anything? And again, one of those things we know, I mean Lauw. We've talked about this. I did an audition two years ago and all of a sudden, I got a contact by the casting director saying hey, we think your voice would be great for this.  22:14 The same thing for your ideas, right your ideas to develop. Just don't give up and be patient. It is one of those things You're marketing. Direct marketing is huge in that convincing an actor to spend a certain amount of money or invest money on a reguLaur basis for marketing is, gosh, pretty much close to impossible, and I know you know that right. Everybody's like I don't have the money, I'm broke, I'm not getting a return on my investment. People are so quick to say that I am not getting a return on my investment. But well, they have to think about.  22:43 - Lau (Host) Are they coming from a full, rich, abundant pLauce? Are they coming from a cheap, overly frugal, not willing to invest pLauce? Because people want to invest in you if they see that you're willing to invest in yourself first. So in essence, you are the proof of concept If you're willing to invest, then you give someone else permission to invest in you, so that abundant versus a fearful, cheap pLauce is really, really important. There's one other thing I was going to say, annie too. Now, maybe this is pushing it a little too far, but I'm that kind of gal If you want to start something new, create something real. Upfront. I'll give you an idea. I used to teach in a very competitive entrepreneurial program in a business college and in the freshman year think about this, 18 years old the project was they take the whole first year, annie. They would create in teams a product that at the end of the year they pitch in a real way at the end of the year right, so it was whatever, it was a shirt a clock, this or that.  23:44 I never forgot, 18, 19 years old. I never forgot because they said we don't care if you make money or not. This is about making money. This is about you learning that when you create a process, there has to be something real and executionary about it, and something that you perform. It's performative. It's not in your head. So at the end of the year, they had to physically manufacture the product Sure absolutely.  24:06 Yeah, and then they'd have to pitch it to see if they could get money, I love that love. I think here's the thought. Here's the thought. We create something, whatever it is, it could be anything. Create something that is a sticker of it that makes it real. So, for instance, let's say you have an idea for a new service in your business, or I have an idea for a business, create a logo, pay money for that logo. It could be 50 bucks, it could be 200, whatever, but it becomes real in a different way.  24:35 - Anne (Host) Absolutely, I love that you said that because, honestly, like when I worked at the academies the Bergen academies, I mean every student had a year long project, literally where they formed a company, they created a product and they actually were all part of here's the marketing department.  24:48 Here's the engineering department and honestly, it gave them a reason to learn engineering. It gave them a reason to learn marketing. It gave them a reason to learn SAP software. It gave them a reason to learn they just had to create the prototype and then they had to, like, market it and sell it, and then they had to present it. And we're talking about ninth graders. Okay, back in the day. That's amazing. Now, if you start them at ninth grade thinking in that way, thinking in that entrepreneurial, corporate way, where they ultimately have to create something and then present it, they end up learning all of the things they need to learn in order to accomplish that goal, and that becomes a really wonderful education for the students as well, as I cannot tell you how many of those students are blossoming like amazing successes today.  25:34 - Lau (Host) Amazing.  25:35 - Anne (Host) They started off early knowing that and doing that, and so I think that's a wonderful idea for you bosses out there to go and create something, make your initial investment, something that doesn't have to take like a billion dolLaurs. No, but something that represents that and is part of your goal to getting there, and I think that that is amazing.  25:54 - Lau (Host) If someone says but Anne, I'm worried. What if I spend $100 on this and I don't like the way it looks or it doesn't come out the way I want? Here's my answer to that. You made an investment in your education, absolutely so. It's not the logo that you created, it's the educational process to know what do you want at the end of the day to represent your company. You don't know until it's actually happening. It can't sit in your head and come to perfection. It's got to be that like, done, done, done every moment in your process. Done. It's not about perfection, it's about done. Now move on. What did I learn?  26:30 - Anne (Host) Right, I'm going to tie that to the logo to even. You know, go further website, start a website. And so many people are like, yeah, but I shouldn't start it yet until I know what my brand is. Okay, yeah, here's a little piece of advice. Your brand evolves right. It's not like your website can't be changed.  26:42 It's not like your logo can't be changed or evolve along with you. As a matter of fact, I just went to the Way Back archive and I saw my very first website where I was Anne Speak. By the way, you guys can look at that, Anne Speak.  26:52 - Intro (Announcement) A&E Speak.  26:54 - Anne (Host) And you'll see that my logo was a microphone, right, with little flourishing things coming out of it, because I love flourishes right. And the thing is is that I've evolved, I mean, and our business has evolved, and so it's okay. Make that investment, the education you're going to get by hiring somebody to create a logo, forcing yourself to think about who am I, what does my logo represent? Or what does my website represent, what are my colors, what is my brand that education is going to be invaluable. Yes, love, what a wonderful conversation Yet again.  27:21 I say this at the end of every podcast. It doesn't seem like.  27:24 - Intro (Announcement) Anne is like a broken record but honestly we have such great conversations.  27:29 - Anne (Host) And you know what I just love, love, love having you as my co-host, and bosses love you too, and we love the bosses. And so, with that in mind, bosses, I want you to take a moment and imagine a world full of passionate and powered, diverse individuals, like we are, but we're giving collectively and intentionally to create the world that we want to see. You can make a difference. Visit 100voiceshoocareorg to learn more, and big shout out to our sponsor, ipdtl. You, too, can connect and network like bosses. Find out more at IPDTLcom. Have an amazing week, guys, and go start something new. We'll see you next week. See you next week. Bye.  28:09 - Intro (Announcement) Join us next week for another edition of VO Boss with your host, Anne Gangusa, and take your business to the next level. Sign up for our mailing list at vobosscom and receive exclusive content, industry revolutionizing tips and strategies and new ways to rock your business like a boss. Redistribution with permission. Coast to coast connectivity via IPDTL.  28:31 - Anne (Host) Hey everyone, welcome to the VO Boss podcast and the Boss Superpower series. I'm your host, anne Gangusa, along with my very awesome, amazing lost co-host, Lauw Laupita. Hello, happy Saturday. Uh oh.  28:57 - Lau (Host) Uh oh, Lauw, where'd you go? Lauw, you're frozen. I know you were frozen. So we lost transmission for a second Transmission lost. It might have been lost Alright.  29:06 - Anne (Host) Yes, it might have been lost. Alright, let's try that one more time. I'm going to stop it and pause for a bit.   

The pod is taking a slight temporal detour this week and covering The Right Stuff - a film that began its development during New Hollywood and was finished and released in the wake of the Heaven's Gate debacle. Sam and Alana pontificate about whether or not this ambitious space epic retains the artistic spirit of the 70s or if it can't quite achieve liftoff beyond merely ‘fun movie about the early days of the Space Race'. Topics include: the film's digressive structure, Philip Kaufman's Pavlovian response to popcorn, and the charms of Dennis Quaid.

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Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: Reinforcement Via Giving People Cookies, published by Screwtape on November 15, 2023 on LessWrong. I. Thinking By The Clock is now the most popular thing I've written on LessWrong, so here's another entry in the list of things which had a significant change in how I think and operate that I learned from a few stray lines of Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality. It's quite appropriate of this subject to be the followup you all get because the last one got upvoted so much. As far as I can tell this just straightforwardly works. I hereby propose giving immediate positive feedback for things you want more of, or in simpler words, give people cookies. In my own experience, this really works, and it works on many levels. There are more ways to go astray ethically with negative reinforcement so I am not here making an argument to use that side of the coin, but offering people positive reinforcement seems pretty unobjectionable to me. Reward your friends, reward your enemies, reward yourself! II. Lets start with that last point about rewarding yourself. There's a particular treat I give myself every time I work out. As soon as I finish the workout, I get the treat. (A fruit smoothie.) This has been going on for years, to the point where my reaction is basically Pavlovian. By the time I finish lacing up my running shoes, I'm already thinking of the reward. Sometimes I've noticed an internal urge to go for a run or pick up the weights, and when I trace the source of the urge it's often that a smoothie sounds good right now. I seem to be unusually good at holding myself to my own rules (most people remark that they could just make the smoothie and not work out, and predict that they would do that instead) but I'm at least n=1 evidence that you can classically condition yourself. But we can go smaller and faster. There's this thing I see people do sometimes where they do something and then immediately point out all the flaws with it. It seems like it's usually people with some kind of anxiety, and I can't tell which direction the causation goes. They'll play some new piece on the guitar and as soon as they finish their face scrunches up like they smelled something bad and they point out how many notes they missed on that third line, and then someone else in the room will say something like "oh yeah, I noticed that" and the player will look even more frustrated with themselves. Some amount of this seems useful for the learning process, but the people who can make mistakes and laugh about it seem happier to play more guitar. I notice this even more when trying to brainstorm or come up with lots of ideas. I'll watch someone sit silently for while minutes, and then write one idea down. See, what's going on in my head is that I'm earning points for every idea I come up with, even the bad ones. Another idea, another point. Evaluation of whether it's a good idea is a separate process and has to be. The points can be awarded very fast and entirely mentally and still have a tiny positive ding of reward. "Hermione," Harry said seriously, as he started to dig down into the red-velvet pouch again, "don't punish yourself when a bright idea doesn't work out. You've got to go through a lot of flawed ideas to find one that might work. And if you send your brain negative feedback by frowning when you think of a flawed idea, instead of realizing that idea-suggesting is good behavior by your brain to be encouraged, pretty soon you won't think of any ideas at all." Reward yourself. If you punish yourself for trying things and not being perfect, you learn not to try things. III. You know what else is fast? Smiling. For a while I was spending a lot of time studying human facial expressions. It felt like every other week I'd run across some news article or another promising positive cheer and e...

This week Sam and Cassie BOTH have shit lists to rock your world! Well, they'll at least make you say “Oh, that's interesting!” Prepare yourself for answers to how Bert and Ernie got their names, and do we eat shrimp organs? Spoiler alert: jury's still out.    ShoutOut: @geodsaurus- Cassie has a Pavlovian response to “uhhhh yes - - hello?" Thank you for all the haunting, ghastly, and dreadful work you do!!!   Get That Shit:  StickeyRice IG & TT: @StickeyRiceShop etsy.com/StickeyRice   If you want adorable stickers, or need a new, eco-friendly, glass tumbler with pride ghosts on it, you need to hop on over to StickeyRice's Esty Shop!

What happens when our devices, originally meant to enhance our productivity, start chipping away at our ability to focus? Overwhelmed by a ceaseless flood of information, we find ourselves helplessly trailing from one bright, shiny prospect to another. In this week's episode, hosts Lori Vajda and Nola Boea explore this modern paradox in our new segment, Beyond the Cover: Books for Personal and Professional Growth. Our journey begins with Johann Hari's insightful book, "Stolen Focus", that peels back the layers of our growing struggle with concentration in this digital age.Thanks for listening! Let's stay connected!We love hearing your feedback! Leave or speak your message hereIf you haven't already, please connect with us on Facebook! Pick out a fun holiday gift for a budding entrepreneur on our merch page. Business success strategies are in the works. Come have a listen!By the end of this episode, you'll learn: How big and fast the mountain of information at our fingertips has grown. How technology has changed the way our brains prefer to take in information.The one digital invention that keeps us scrolling and scrolling and scrolling....How predictive technology can anticipate your next move.The affect technology is having on digitally native children.Ways to climb out of the rabbit hole and take control of your tech-induced habits.Key points Lori and Nola are sharing in this episode: 4:48 Surprising revelations that made Lori's jaw drop.14:22 The Multi-Tasking Myth22:48 The addictive side effect of this one tech improvement28:03 Pavlovian psychology applies to social media30:17 How tech affects children35:13 Solutions to Managing Technology Addiction and Improving Focus44:44 "Stolen Focus" Recommendation ResourcesSign up  for “News You Can Use” at Sticky Brand LabSubscribe to Lori and Nola's show  on Apple Podcasts,  Audible, or wherever you listen to podcasts.ConvertKit: Our #1 Favorite Email Marketing Platform   (This is an affiliate link)Podcast Transcript

Spooky Season continues with a trip back to the beginning of the Saw franchise. Come play a game as we reminisce how this film was the introduction to the horror genre. Unfortunately our fourth, Robert, was locked up in a warehouse and unable to join us as planned, but it's up to him: live or die.This Movie's Cocktail: Saw-zarac 2oz Rye Whiskey .5oz Cherry Herring .25 Simple Syrup 6 dashes of Peychards bitters Absinthe rinse But before we drink: I want to play a game. Every episode I diligently and thoughtfully put together a themed cocktail. For to long you have sat idly on the side line. Anticipating, and salivating like Pavlovian trained beasts while these tired hands stir and shake. Now it is your turn to play bartender. Before you sit two chilled vials, choose wisely, for they are alike in composure but not consumption. One contains the aforementioned cocktail of rye whiskey, the other is dastardly made with a base of 100 proof banana liqueur. Live or Die make your choice.Please consider supporting us on our Patreon!SUBSCRIBE for FREE$5/mo Honorary Nostalgia Killer - Get access to Post Show recordings where we talk about newer movies and randomness.$15/mo Executive Producer - We will read out your name and a short dedication during the episodes to show our thanks.$100 Shot Caller Team Javier / Team Chuck - Help us settle a co-host rivalry as well as pick the next movie we talk about.$1000 Sponsor a Show - Pick a movie and we will promote your business/project/brand throughout the show.https://www.patreon.com/NostalgiaKillersPodcastFeaturing:Taylor DiffenderferJavier MartinezChuck Starzenski Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

TWiN discusses a study of on the pathways that control opioid analgesic tolerance, a root cause of opioid overdose and misuse, which can develop through an associative learning. Hosts: Vincent Racaniello, Jason Shepherd, and Timothy Cheung Subscribe (free): Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, RSS Links for this episode MicrobeTV Discord Server Associative opioid analgesic tolerance (Sci Adv) Pavlovian-conditioned opioid tolerance (Sci Adv) Timestamps by Jolene. Thanks! Music is by Ronald Jenkees Send your neuroscience questions and comments to twin@microbe.tv

Shawnna Sumaoang: Hi, and welcome to the Sales Enablement PRO Podcast. I'm Shawnna Sumaoang. Sales enablement is a constantly evolving space, and we're here to help professionals stay up to date on the latest trends and best practices so that they can be more effective in their jobs. Today, I’m excited to have Jennifer Ryan at Blackline join us. Jennifer, I’d love for you to introduce yourself, your role, and your organization to our audience. Jennifer Ryan: Absolutely. My name is Jennifer Ryan. I’m the director of global sales enablement here at Blackline. I went the long way around to find my way to enablement. When I was a solutions consultant, I was a customer success manager. I’ve done IT support, I’ve done customer training. I’ve done all of these things, and my senior VP of sales came up to me and he says, you keep circling the barrel, but until you understand sales, you can’t understand business, so you have two choices. You can go into sales enablement, or you can go into sales. I chose sales enablement. SS: I love that. Now, you also describe yourself as someone who specializes in navigating fear and leaning into trying new things, as you just alluded to in your introduction with all of the various experiences that you’ve had throughout your career journey. How have you applied this mindset now to your role in enablement? JR: When we think about enablement, the whole goal, whether we’re selling widgets or we’re selling software, we are asking people to change. When we ask others to change, that means that there’s something in us that has to change. As human beings, we are emotionally driven. Change is very difficult for us. It’s always steeped in the fear of the unknown. I use this idea behind being experimental, being okay with trying something, and failing because the magic is in the quote-unquote failure. The idea that failure is negativity is horrible, it’s where all of the magic comes from. Think about science. How many things were discovered by accident because someone just tried something and what was a failure for one thing became something else? I apply this mindset to the folks in enablement that while you might be afraid to try something new, that while you might be resistant, there is absolutely nothing that you should be afraid of and just trying. SS: I love that mindset. Now, that all being said, the sales environment has undergone a lot of change in the last few years, and change can cause fear for some folks. What are some of the common challenges that can arise from giving into fear? JR: What I see most often that comes out of that fear mindset, and if we even think about all of the information that’s come out of Gartner and this idea behind buyer enablement, this idea that it’s not so much about us as the salespeople, but more about what the buyer knows about themselves. There’s a lot of fear of loss of control in the sales cycle. There’s this idea that historically we’ve gone in discovery and we’ve peppered questions and now it’s, how do we coach a buyer into answering those questions for themselves that we lead them instead of tell them? That’s scary because you don’t know what’s coming. You have to be agile and you have to use your active listening skills. Those are not muscles that we always flex. Some are very good at it, but others struggle. When we struggle and then there’s the looming quota, those are all very fear-inducing instances in sales. SS: I love that. What are some of your best practices to help sellers overcome fear though, through enablement efforts? JR: My favorite practice to alleviate fear is humor. When you’re laughing, our bodies release serotonin, and dopamine in our brains. It’s almost like we’re drug addicts if you will. I don’t mean to use that term loosely, but we are subject to that release in our brains, and when we associate that with something new, something that we’ve learned, we have a Pavlovian response to learning. With laughter, you release defenses. You get people to just relax. They lower their shoulders, their facial muscles release, and they’re with you. When people are with you and they feel like you are meeting them where they are, the fear goes away because you’re not lording over them. I use humor more than anything else in enablement and it has served me well for the many years I’ve been doing it. SS: I think you’re spot on. Humor does alleviate a lot of that held in tension. Beyond that, the learning process can play a big role, I think, as well in helping sellers navigate fear because then it is no longer the unknown. It also helps to build a lot of confidence amongst your sales teams. I know one of your areas of expertise is in multimedia learning. How can a multimedia approach to learning help sellers develop confidence? JR: I don’t know if you’ve ever read the books by Don Norman, and if you haven’t, do yourself a favor, they’re phenomenal, but Don talks about how cognitive learning by itself, that people only absorb so much information. If we couple new learning with an emotional response, if we associate emotion with it, then not only are people Viscerally responding to what’s happening, but they are also engaging a part of their brain that creates a reflective approach in the future. That means that they can recall that learning again in the future. When you think about multimedia learning, I always lean into it. I’m going to age myself now, but when I was a kid, we had Schoolhouse Rock. At my age, I can still recite the preamble to the Declaration of Independence because I know it in a song. If you think about when someone tells you something new, and then you also see a picture of it. These things combined create an environment for learning. We’re engaging people at different places instead of just a singular point of bringing learning to new people in whatever form that takes. My other favorite is storytelling. If I tell you a silly story with a point that makes a correlation between something that you don’t know, that correlation makes the learning. SS: I love how you’re able to draw that correlation for your learners. If we can double-click into this a little bit, what are some of the key components of an effective multimedia learning experience? JR: One of my favorite things to look at is called sensory motor synchronization. There’s been a lot of research done on it, but basically, the research started in babies. If we can do something that aligns with the beat of a baby’s heart, or the beat of the intake and outtake of their breath, then we align to the very basics of these babies as humans. It also works with folks who are further in the ending stages of their life. I spent the early part of my career studying music therapy. I used to work in an Alzheimer’s unit and that’s where I started to align with that idea of the power of music, the power of the beat, and how we can reach people that the brain has literally made them unreachable for us. One of the key components that I use is helping people align learning with that beat. Think about when you’re looking at a PowerPoint and someone has multiple lines and if you put a little music behind it and it comes out synchronized to that beat, that effect draws people’s attention, people’s attention and they’re like, oh, I loved that part. Look at how that exactly went with that beat. Things like that are my favorite things to do in training. I’ll put up a picture that elicits that awe factor, like a picture of a kitten, and I’ll ask them, how does this make you feel? People will respond, oh, it’s just so sweet, or oh, look at that kitten. Then behind it, I’ll play the Jaws theme. Now, all of a sudden, this sweet little kitten’s eyes look like it’s coming for me! That idea that we can change the feeling, we can change the scenario of something by combining pictures with stories, and with music, we can control how people come to the table and how they’re going to ingest what we have to offer for them. SS: That was quite the visualization, I have to say. Last question for you, Jennifer. What is one thing that you’re planning to try in your enablement programs this year? What is one thing that you’d recommend our audience try in their programs that maybe they haven’t tried before? JR: This year we are actually rolling out what we’re calling Blackline TV. What we found is that our learners were giving us a lot of feedback that, we get too much email, and our LMS sends out email notifications. Our learning development team from HR sends out emails. We send out email announcements. There are emails about new meetings that are coming. We had to find a different way to reach people in a way that they would again be open to learning something new. Blackline TV gives us this idea, think about the very best movie trailer you’ve ever seen. As soon as it’s done, you think, where’s my $20, I can’t wait to see that movie. Blackline TV is a snippet of different parts of the business. We didn’t just limit it to enablement functions, but we figured that this collaboration, this learning opportunity around the entire business would create not only collaboration between different teams but also reinforces that we are one company as a whole, not separate groups that happen to be part of the same quote unquote company family. That is our big one this year is BlacklineTV. I would really recommend finding something that is off the beaten path. Something that people haven’t seen before. The beautiful part about this experimental mindset is that just try it. What’s the worst that could happen? Did it fall apart? Okay, well then you try something else. Try quickly, fail quickly, and iterate quickly. SS: I love that advice. Thank you so much, Jennifer, for joining us today. I learned a lot. JR: Absolutely. My pleasure. SS: To our audience, thanks for listening. For more insights, tips, and expertise from sales enablement leaders, visit salesenablement.pro. If there's something you'd like to share or a topic you'd like to learn more about, please let us know. We'd love to hear from you.

Welcome back to Analyze Scripts, where a psychiatrist and a therapist analyze what Hollywood gets right and wrong about mental health. Today, we are joined by triple board certified psychiatist Dr. Sulman Mirza AKA @thekicksshrink. We are blown away by the lasting impact of this movie from 1975 on the field of psychiatry and psychology. We discuss the sociopathy of Randle McMurphy and the iconic villain, Nurse Ratchet. We wrap it up with our frustration in the field, both in the past and present...like with lobotomies, ETC depictions, ODD diagnoses and more. We hope you enjoy! Instagram Tik Tok Website Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Hi, I'm Dr. Katrina Fieri, a psychiatrist. Portia Pendleton LCSW: And I'm Portia Pendleton, a licensed clinical social worker. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: And this is Analyze Scripts, a podcast where two shrinks analyze the depiction of mental health in movies and TV shows. Portia Pendleton LCSW: Our hope is that you learn some legit info about mental health while feeling like you're chatting with your girlfriends. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: There is so much misinformation out there and it drives us nuts. Portia Pendleton LCSW: And if someday we pay off our student loans or land a sponsorship, like. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: With a lay flat airline or a major beauty brand, even better. So sit back, relax, grab some popcorn and your DSM Five and enjoy. Welcome back to Analyze scripts. We are so excited you're joining us today for an episode about the classic, I guess I think in a Bad Way film, one Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. We're thrilled to be joined by Dr. Sulman Merza, who is a triple board certified psychiatrist with expertise in psychiatry, child and adolescent psychiatry, and addiction medicine. I would call that a triple threat. He completed his psychiatry residency at Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond, Virginia. His Child and Adolescent Psychiatry Fellowship at the University of Maryland and Shepherd Pratt Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland. He's had the privilege to work in a variety of settings, from inpatient psychiatric units with medical capabilities to the classrooms of Baltimore City Public schools. He's learned from some of the leaders and pioneers in the field of psychiatry, and his experiences have allowed him to develop a deep understanding of neuropsychiatric conditions in both children and adults. And he has a keen knack for the Internet, and you can find him at the Kick Shrink on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube. And I have to say, Sulan, I love your videos. I feel like they're very visually appealing. But also the content is so great. You really have a way of putting out a lot of really accurate, detailed information in a really entertaining, easy to digest way, and I think that is really hard to do. So I just want to give you some props for that. I don't know if we still say props, but I feel like I'm really impressed. We can still say that. No, I'm really honestly impressed. I feel like you have themes where you do medication. Saturday, I'm not going to remember all the names off the top of my head, but then there's like, historical lessons. There's a lot of good info about ADHD I've told you offline. I love your stuff about WWE. I think it's really great. So I hope everyone goes to check them out. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Yeah. Thank you both for having me on here. Really excited I came across you guys, I was like, oh, my God, I love the movies and entertainment and pop culture. And I was like, this is and I love kind of bringing psychiatry psychology into all of that because so much of that is present. So I was like, let's see if we can collaborate on something. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Yeah. No, we're thrilled. Portia Pendleton LCSW: And we chose this movie and book. So the book came out in 1962 with the movie 1975. I had never seen this movie, but I had heard of it, which I think is part of our discussion with how powerful this was that kind of shaping people's views of psychiatry inpatient care and treatments. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Right, right. I think it's so true. We were talking about with Dr. Jesse Gold in our most recent episode about season two of Yellow Jackets, which has another awful scene about ECT. Again, just how this film has permeated through our culture. Even if you haven't seen it, like, you're saying you haven't seen it, but you know of it, and it's like it's had this really long lasting, unfortunate impact, which is ironic because apparently it won a Bazillion. Academy Awards, made a lot of money, it was very well received, it won all these awards, and yet it was awful in terms of its portrayal of mental health care. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Yeah. The history of film, it's one of the few movies that has gotten has won the big five awards, right. Best picture, best director, best actor, best actress and then best adapted screenplay. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Right. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: In history. I think there's only this and I think maybe one or two other movies that have won all of those big five. And then I think when AFI American Film Institute does their top hundred films, or top hundred, whatever, this is always one of those top movies. I think Nurse Ratchet will talk about her in a bit. She's gone down as one of the top ten villains in film history of all time, right up there with Hannibal Lecter and another psychiatrist and Darth Vader. So it's like Darth Vader and Hannibal Ectos. You can see how powerful this is in our culture and our history. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Yeah, that's so true. Portia Pendleton LCSW: And the name so right. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Like, people say things are ratchet, like, oh, that's so ratchet. Portia Pendleton LCSW: And I was like, Is that from this? Dr. Katrina Furey MD: That's a great question. Portia Pendleton LCSW: I don't know, like, Nurse Ratchet or like, even again, like, not seeing the film. It's pretty old right. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: At this point. What's, 30 coming up in 50 years? Portia Pendleton LCSW: It's still impacting today in some very strange ways that I think people have no idea about. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Yeah. Isn't that fascinating that it's had such a long lasting effect? Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Yeah. So again, when I watched it the other day, I was like, man, first of all, I was like, this movie is like almost 50 years old, right. Seeing the cast members, I was like, oh, my God, this person is gone. This person is dead. This person is dead. And for a lot of these actors in there, some of them were like christopher Lloyd, I think, made his view in this movie. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Yes. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Billy the character, Brad Durh, who played Billy Bibbitt, that was like his movie debut. You see a young Danny DeVito in there. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: I didn't even catch that until the end credits, I was like, oh my God, that was Danny DeVito. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: That was Danny DeVito. Yeah. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Was this Jack Nicholson's first movie or. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: I'm imagining was I think he was pretty established by that time, but I think this was the one maybe he won his first award for and the one that really was like, oh, this guy is a superstar now. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Yeah. Portia Pendleton LCSW: So first impressions? Dr. Katrina Furey MD: You said you were not pleased. Portia Pendleton LCSW: I mean, I don't think very much. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: You know, what's interesting is we just recorded and we'll have released an episode about Girl Interrupted, and then we're watching this one and I was like, oh, this is so fascinating because it's like similar time periods and they're both on inpatient hospital units. And I thought it just is interesting, the timing. Know, with Girl Interrupted, we really focus on borderline personality disorder and Winona Ryder's character, know, some antisocial personality disorder discussion with Angelina Jolie's character. And again, here we're finding the male view of antisocial personality disorder with Jack Nicholson's character, Randall McMurphy. So it was just interesting to sort of see again how they depicted an inpatient psychiatric unit, which I thought the environment was pretty accurate for those times. And still today it hasn't changed much. But I was struck immediately by, again, the nurses wearing their white clothes, which again, accurate for the time, not so much these days. All the orderlies I felt like were going to burst into a barbershop quartet song or serve me some ice cream with their little bow ties and stuff. But I feel like overall, when I rewatch this movie, it just makes me so sad to just see sort of how they portray the coercive nature of mental health treatment, especially ECT, the medication, so everything feels so punitive. That I think makes me really sad watching it as a psychiatrist and I don't think is accurate based on my experiences inpatient units. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Yeah, especially for today. Again, this was before my time. This is before I was born that this movie came out. No way to really tell what it was like, but it's this bizarre feeling of like, man, this is the image that has been there and permeated the culture of what this was. And I think when we were probably before enter our residency, and we're like, you get a little bit scared of going on the psychiatric floor for the first time as a med student, you're like, oh my God, what's it going to be like? Again, for those of us who have not been on an inpatient psychiatric floor, you're like, what is it going to be like? How are people going to be? Is it going to be like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? And then you get in there and you're like, oh, wait, it's not like that. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Right? Yeah. I thought even the patients on the unit, the way they were depicted, I just thought was very stigmatizing and inhumane. And inaccurate. It felt like I had a hard time figuring out what each of the people like, what their diagnoses were, and they just sort of came across as being I don't know, how would you describe them? Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Some of them were caricatures, right? I think we had the one patient who had been lobotomized who was just kind of there as the quote unquote vegetable. And then you have the know, the one guy, older guy who's just kind of dancing the entire time. You have Mr. Harding, I think is the closeted homosexual. And then you have some know, Billy Bibbitt is like the Stutterer. So again, you have these kind of caricatures that show up in you know, it's like, is it good? Is it bad? And not always. I think something from the book that's always just kind of lost in people is I think, if I remember correctly, I read the book, like, in high school, and I quickly did like a Wikipedia before this, just to kind of refresh a little bit. Yeah. And I was like, the book is told from the point of view of Chief, right, who in the book is a paranoid schizophrenic. Right. You have all this other he's got these conspiracy theories and this kind of bizarre delusions of how the world is being run, which none of that comes. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Across in Totally Lost. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Yeah, he's totally depicted as like, oh, he's just this quote unquote Indian, right, native American that can't talk. And it's one of the worst kind of things I think we've seen as psychiatrists or in the field is you get consults on people who are non English speaking and people are like, what's wrong with this person? They're not understanding what I'm saying. You know what? Again, it's just like, oh, you just didn't use the interpreter line. You didn't take the time to bother to find out how they communicate. But that was kind of the image in my mind. I was like, wow, this poor guy. Chief got thrown into the mental health or into the psychiatric unit because nobody could communicate with him. And that's what he's here for and he's just kind of gone along with it. There's no way to tell at all that he's schizophrenic in the movie at all. Right? Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Whereas I think in the book I also read it a long time ago, so I don't quite remember, but I believe there was a lot more dialogue about his paranoid thoughts, even if he wasn't saying them. You were getting that background, whereas even in the movie, you just see him sweeping a lot. Like, he doesn't seem especially paranoid. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: No, not at all. Again, in the movie, he's depicted as like this, again, totally normal person who just ended up there for some reason because he's, quote, deaf and dumb. And again, nobody can communicate with him. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: And it's like, I don't think that's how you end up on a psychiatric unit. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Right. That's sometimes how you hopefully, again, you may get that random psych consult just because, again, some surgery resident will be like, I can't talk with the person. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: They must be bipolar. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Yeah, they must be a bipolar. Or they must be like something. Or they're just like, no, they just don't speak English. Which I think we all have our stories. Portia Pendleton LCSW: We saw that in Side Effects right at the beginning. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: So there's a gentleman who's brought into the Er who had attacked, they said, like a cab driver because he thought. Portia Pendleton LCSW: He had seen his father. And in that culture, there's a lot of ghosts and seeing relatives and elders. The psychiatrist in that movie, this is a good depiction, started speaking, I think, French or Creole and was able and then was able to understand what actually happened then was like, you don't need to keep him cuffed, so on and so forth. So that was a good depiction. Know what we didn't see here, maybe, right? Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Yeah. What were your first impressions, Sulman, about Jack Nicholson's character? Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: It's interesting because he's the main character. He's the hero of the film, per se. Right. The main protagonist of the film is this guy who's going to come onto the unit and rabble rouse and free all the patients who are there. And he has this idea that, again, these people are held there against their will, when actually he's the one who's being involuntarily committed. He's the one who's being held there. They have that moment in therapy where everyone was like, oh, I'm actually here because I want to be here. And it's kind of eye opening experience for him. And I think people kind of like in the beginning, or people will kind of forget that he's really a terrible person. Right? He's there because he's done these terrible crimes. He's a pedophile, for lack of a better term. He's committed statutory rape. And he's kind of reveled in the fact that he's being very graphic in describing the situation that occurred with this 15 year old girl. And you're just like, oh, wow, this guy is really a dirt bag. He's really not a good person. And he's committed all these crimes and he's lying to get out of prison so that he can be in, again, this vacation, quote unquote, that he thinks he's going to be on the mental health ward and he's going to dupe everybody. And you're like, wow, this guy is really antisocial. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Right? Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: But then he's portrayed again, this charismatic person who's going to free all these people. So he's, again, not taking into consideration the impact of his actions and how Billy ends up not spoiler, but ends up completing suicide at the end of the movie. So by kind of accidents of what happened during the course of the film and that last night that they were there, right? Yeah. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: I mean, I thought this was a good depiction of antisocial personality disorder in terms of the fact that people with these traits can be very charismatic, right? Like, that's how Ted Bundy lured all his victims, right. And I thought also that initial scene between McMurphy and the psychiatrist, who again, was an older white man, I thought his office was pretty spot on for what a psychiatrist's office probably looks, know? But you even see, like, trying to weasel his way in by commenting on the photos yes. About the fish he won and all this stuff. And you just see his true lack of remorse or empathy right away when the psychiatrist says, well, you've been in jail for five assaults, and there's this rape charge. And just the provocative, uncomfortable way he talks about that whole thing, I think gives you all the info you need to say, like, I think you got antisocial personality disorder and you're malingering. I don't know what more they could have done for him. And yet they keep him there, and it's like they want to help. But do they? It's unclear. And I wonder at the time of. Portia Pendleton LCSW: The movie, too, now, I mean, how his description of the child that he was with was so gross that that stayed with me for the rest of the film. But I'm wondering, too, even at the times, I think, why he won. And part of the reason why the movie did so well is because you kind of go back and forth with hating him and liking him. He wants to free people from their oppressed system, nurse Ratchet. And I think it's kind of interesting. He's like this horrible person, but then you're like, I would imagine some people, even maybe more so in the 70s, are like, rooting for him to free the patient. And it's interesting. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Yeah, absolutely. He is portrayed like he is the protagonist of the film, right. He is the hero. He's like the guy that, again, you're rooting for him and at the end, again, not to go into spoiler territory, but when he gets lobotomized, you're like, oh, I feel bad for him, right, a little bit. But at the same time, again, you are rooting for him and you're going along for him during the whole movie. And yeah, it is problematic. Absolutely. And it's really interesting when you look at it from when the book was written and the author, Ken Kesey is his name, right. He goes, know, again, a lot of what he was doing was a lot about how the themes are like, you're supposed to be against society, against this oppressive society, and about being the individual and being a real man, quote, unquote. So, again, all the masculinity aspects that come up in this and how society has castrated the man of today, right. That's some of the themes that are in the book, in the movie. So that's there and Ken Kesey goes on to in his life become this proponent of psychelic drugs and how we have to use again these substances to find this other sense of reality individuality when it's like you're kind of talking about a psychiatric facility and medications and then you're like, but no, we're going to use LSD and we're going to use still all the hallucinogenics and psychedelics to reach this altered sense of being too. So it's double standard, double that comes out. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Which interestingly, I think is still attention in the field today, right? Like I still think we encounter this a lot, people maybe who've had negative experiences with mental health care or haven't felt fully helped or fully heard or understood. And there is more and more research into psychedelics and the tools, how they can be helpful, but it's still a big gray zone and I think that tension is still felt even 50 years later. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Yeah, absolutely. Again, I'm very much keeping my ear to the field of this in my own clinical practice, like I do at my practice we do Spravata, which is the intranasal ketamine, and I've seen fantastic results from it. So it's really kind of been like, oh, there's something to this, right? There's some legitimacy to what this is. And I think as a field and as a society, we're absolutely robbed of decades of research, what could have been done when we criminalized all these substances. So I think there's some truth to it. But at the same time, just as many success stories we hear there's so many horror stories of things and just because everything is because everything is regulated so much, we're not able to, again, do proper research and get, again, really effective dosing the quality control that comes when you're buying illicit substances or black market substances, right? That's where the problems come. Because then you get people who are like, well, I'll just go do shrooms on the weekend and I'll be all good. Why do I need to microdose prozac? Right? I'll do this and so and then things, right? Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Exactly. So one thing I found myself wondering while watching this movie is that relationship dynamic between Mick Murphy and Nurse Ratchet is really central to the film. And at first I found Nurse Ratchet to be so comforting, like the way she spoke and the way she just looked at you and she seemed so gentle and so well put together. But as the film goes on, you see this more sadistic side to her. And first of all, I don't think the nurse runs the therapy sessions on a unit. Usually that's done by a trained therapist. So that was a really interesting, huge error in the film. But then also she had so much control and is really depicted as being a pretty sadistic person and using all these types of severe punishments like ECT and the lobotomies, even the medications in a manipulative, cruel way. And I found myself wondering, is that who she really is or did he pull this out of her with his own behaviors? Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: I think this was who she was, because I think we see it even in that first group therapy session where she's weaponizing these people, the patients kind of their insecurities. I think she's like one of those people who, again, has a little bit more therapeutic training than a typical nurse on the unit may have. But she's really weaponizing it against some of the kind of defense mechanisms, some of the what's it called? I can't even think of the word right now. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: But she's weaponizing their vulnerabilities. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Yeah, she's weaponizing their vulnerabilities against them. And again, it is this aspect, again, when we come to the and this was there from the first scene, from the first group therapy scene, you see it like she picks on I think it was Mr. Harding, and that's with his wife being your wife, why do you think your wife is cheating on you? And then they have the whole discussion, and then it's like, well, actually, I think this is the reason why, and this is what's happening, and cuts really deep to the core. And I think you see McMurphy picks up on that. He's kind of there as a passive bystander observer in the first group therapy session. He's like, let me kind of see what the situation is and let me see who the characters are and what everybody is. And then I think he picks up, they're like, oh, this person is evil, too, in her own way. And he's like, now we're going to kind of compete a little bit to see who's really running really going to run the unit. She's got the one who's got, again, the backing, the strength behind her as well. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Right. It's almost like he's found his match. He could sense, like, they both share this sadistic side, and it just comes out in these different ways. And again, I think very gender normative type of ways, perhaps. But I think you're right from the beginning, nurse Ratchet can pick up those vulnerabilities in the patients and does use it to her advantage. And then that made me wonder, like, are these people really here voluntarily, or does she have this hold on? Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Yeah, because I think there's that aspect, too, where, again, they all say, we could we can leave at any time, but they've been conditioned to feel like they're not ready to go. Right. Especially, again, Billy is one of the kind of the main characters, in a way, in that she's like, oh, me and your mom are old friends. What would she think, again? Which, again, leads to his fate, in a way. Well, directly to his fate. But again, it's the things that she does, again, grabbing onto these vulnerabilities and really kind of keeping all the patients where they're at. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Right. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Not allowing them to progress. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Right, exactly. Portia Pendleton LCSW: You see that in the group dynamic. It makes sense why, but she seemed to be kind of like, rationing everything up instead of kind of rationing everything up. That was not intentional, but afraid there. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Yeah. Portia Pendleton LCSW: Instead of removing right. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: A group member. Portia Pendleton LCSW: I've run a good amount of groups. It's like, okay, if someone seems like they're getting dysregulated, sometimes it's like, okay, maybe go meet with this person and come back. Or let's try to de escalate the group. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Like that scene with the cigarettes. Portia Pendleton LCSW: Yeah. And she's, like, continuing to dig at each one of them and kind of. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Pit them against each other. Yeah. Portia Pendleton LCSW: And that was not what group therapy is at all. And I think, again, just another depiction of it being really out of control and unsafe and scary and chaotic versus trying. The point of group work right. Is to feel safe or feel like. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Other people get it. Yeah. Learn not just from the group therapy leader, but also from each other in a healthy, safe way, and exactly. It was like that whole scene with the cigarettes where everything unravels. It's almost like she kind of knew what she was doing. And then, because they behave so crazy, now we can send these three troublemakers to get ECT. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Yeah. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: How do you feel about that depiction of ECT? Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: If nothing else, the lasting legacy of the movie is the depiction of what ECT is in the mental health field. Which at that time again, I don't know what it was like, but that movie was in the mid seventy s and it was placed in the 60s or the time was in the 60s. So sure that that was even outdated kind of experience of what act was. ECT, that we do now, or at least I haven't done act in ten ish years, I think back since my residency training. 910 years. Yeah. That it's. So different, right? ECT so different. All the research is the most effective, safest kind of treatment that we have out there. Are there people who are going to have issues with memory and headaches? Sure. But those are, again, very small. And when we compare that to the medications that we have, which we know our medications are dirty in a way. Right. There's a lot of side effects that come a lot of times when we're doing med check visits as, like, a psychiatrist or an outpatient or going forward, it's like, Are you having side effects? Are you having side effects? What side effects are you having? Right. That's the majority of kind of, like, our sessions. It's like, well, how do we manage these side effects? And then, by the way, are you feeling less depressed or less anxious or something like that, too? But let's deal with the side effects. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: First, especially for things like antipsychotics. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Yeah. Which are just like, again, very dirty medications. In a way. When we find a medication that has minimal, mild to minimal side effects, we're like, okay, we can deal with this. Right. We can work with this. Now, we've found the thing that worked for us, an act, for the most part, again, super clean. Right. People do really well. The memory loss, again, can it occur? Sure. It doesn't happen often. Not so much. Right. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: And usually isn't it for the memory loss that you experience? Isn't it for the time, like right around getting the treatment? It's not your whole life you forget or you can never lay down in a memory. Isn't it like just around the time you're getting the treatment? Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: That's the most common is, again, just the amnesia that occurs around the treatment. Of course. Are there people who have more severe memory loss or have other kind of injuries that occur? Sure. But again, those are the exceptions, more so than the rule. And again, not to minimize what they've gone through, but again, we always look at things as a risk benefit and a big picture kind of thing, right. But ECT works, right? It's got a greater success rate. It's again, super safe in pregnancy. It is the treatment of choice in pregnancy a lot of times, and then it can help for so many people, for things like catatonia, it is, again, the treatment of choice that works really well. So it's something that, again, when we try to recommend it to people, I'll have patients and I'm like, hey, I think we're at a point where we need to look at something like TT and they're like, one flu with Google's Nest. What are you talking about? Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Every time, almost every single time, it. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Becomes this Pavlovian response, almost, where people are like, one flu over Googleness? What are you talking about? Nothing's wrong with I'm not crazy, I don't need to do that. And you're like, no. And you have to kind of undo what this movie has done because you're like, it's totally different. It's a controlled environment. It's totally voluntary. You have an anesthesiologist, you have a psychiatrist. You're going to be going under really briefly. The seizure is controlled. You have a muscle relaxant or you have what's it called, the medications that are there so that the seizure is just localized just to your ankle. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Sure. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: And somebody's there with you. And it's a very comforting thing. Right. You're not going to experience anything and you'll feel better. Right? And they're like, no, I could never do that. They're going to make me bite on this thing, and I'm going to shake and I'm going to break my bones, and I'm going to forget everything, and I'm going to be like a vegetable when I come out. And it's like, no, please just erase that from your memory. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: I know. I wish we could erase that from our conscious memory. Portia Pendleton LCSW: And even just like him going in there and there's like ten people in there, right? Like all the orderlies are in there ready to kind of restrain him, hold him down. Yeah. So even just like seeing that walking in the room again now, it's very. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Different, and he didn't know what was happening. I think that's what really jumped out at me the most this time is there was no informed consent. There was no explanation. It was like sending your yeah. In such a scare, like, they're just like, oh, we're going to put this conducted on your head, and we're here. Bite down on this. You could see how scared he was. And again, it's like, who wouldn't be, right? Who of us wouldn't be scared? If you walk into a room with all these people holding you down, of course you're going to freak out, but that is not how it's done at all. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: No, at all. It was really striking, too, because, again, he's portrayed as this really bad tough guy, right? And then you see it in Jack Nicholson. Again, his performance is fantastic in the movie where he grounds the corner to see the door, to walk into the door, where this like, he catches himself, and you're like you see the terror come over him, and you're like, he has no idea what's happening. We know from the field and just from having watched the movie before, like, oh, this is what's going to happen. But he has no idea. There's no mention of this at all. So it's a total surprise. And again, all these people are there, and he's like, what is going to happen? So this extreme moment of vulnerability for this person who's been portrayed as this big, bravado, tough guy the whole movie, right? Dr. Katrina Furey MD: And I think the only clue he has is watching Cheswick get the treatment before him, right? You see them dragging him against his will to get it, and then he comes out like a vegetable on the stretcher. And then it's like, okay, you're up. And it's just so unfortunate. Again, I also haven't performed ECT myself since residency, but from what I remember, it can be an outpatient procedure, right? It's not something where you have to be institutionalized to get you come in, it's almost like having a day surgery get not even as invasive in a lot of ways. And again, I feel like that doesn't make sense to the average person to think like, you're stalking my brain. How is that not invasive? It is. I'm not saying it's not, but you come in, you talk about it, they sort of explain to you exactly what's going on in a very respectful way. There's a couple of people in the room. You have the psychiatrist, you have the anesthesiologist, you have a nurse. That might be it. Maybe there's a tech or someone like that. It doesn't take very long. They usually do unilateral. You pick one side first, and then as long as that works, you don't have to do bilateral, which means putting the things on both sides of your head that can lead to more side effects. So we try to avoid it. You're right that you have anesthesia and a paralytic so that your body basically stays still. You look for the twitch in the ankle. That's it. We're not thrashing you around, we're not holding you down. You're not biting your tongue. It's very quick, very mild. Portia Pendleton LCSW: And then I think it takes maybe. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: An hour or so, like in recovery, maybe a little longer, probably less, but I think you're observed for a period of time, but it's not that long. Then you go home and you do a couple of treatments. Portia Pendleton LCSW: Maybe at first you do two to. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Three a week for a period of time to get you into remission from whether it's depression, psychosis. You're 100% right that this is such a good treatment for conditions in pregnancy because there's no risk of medication effects on the fetus. Right. And then as you start to feel better, you space out the treatments. And then some people might get maintenance ECT to keep up the effects. And that's it. And, I mean, I had an attending psychiatrist, which is like your teacher in residency always say it would really frustrate him when we were on the inpatient unit, that we would have to petition the courts to get something like ECT. When he's like, all of these antipsychotics we're giving people have so many side effects, like diabetes, tartar, dyskinesia, anesthesia, all of these things that are so hard to control, and yet it's so much easier to give people these medications and not ECT. And I really wonder how much of that comes from this movie how much of that comes from the long lasting negative effects of this film on our society at large? Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Yeah, I would very much say that they're directly tied because, again, invariably, almost always gets brought up. And this is around the time of Deinstitution, the book and the movie, around that time where we ended the asylum system, for the most part. Right. And we have this massive decrease in the amount of people who are in mental health institutions or mental facilities, and where do they end up? They ended up in prison. Right, right. It's not like around the streets or anything like that. And a lot of those again, a lot of people who will end up, like, unhoused will end up in prison because it's a safe place. You get your three hots and a cotton and these things occur. And they get better care a lot of times. Or they get care yeah, right. At all. While they're in these facilities or in prisons as opposed to the facilities. Because everyone was like, oh, let's deinstitutionalize. And we'll put people into community resources. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Then no one paid for the community resources. We forgot that part. Yeah. We forgot that part. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Yeah. So everyone was like, again, it was putting the carriage before the horse kind of deal, where it's like the resources weren't there. It would have been perfect if they were. And we put funding there and research, and we really put all the resources that were there. It could have been a great system, right. But it just couldn't it hasn't sustained it. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Right. It hasn't panned out. And I think the film does bring up in a lot of ways, maybe not all of them in positive depictions, but about how do we treat vulnerable people in a humane way and what are examples of that going wrong, which I think this film has a lot of examples of it going wrong. And I think, unfortunately, that drive to deinstitutionalize, I like to think, came from a good place, and yet we forgot to invest in the community infrastructure to really make it effective. Right. I don't think anyone wants people to live their life on an inpatient unit, but for some subset of patients who are really having trouble functioning without that support, where do they end up? You're exactly right. That is where they end up. They end up unhoused. They end up in prison. That is our institution these days. And it's just so heartbreaking. Portia Pendleton LCSW: And we see that in group. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Just put a different name on that again, at least. Portia Pendleton LCSW: I don't know about Maryland or Virginia, but maybe like ten years ago now, there was a lot of group homes closed residential facilities in Connecticut, and a lot of those at the time I was working in residentials and they had kind of made their way still to institutions. But whether it was juvenile incarceration or substance use treatment facilities and again, I get the idea is, yeah, who wants to grow up in a group home? No one. That's not ideal at all. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: But also, what do we do with. Portia Pendleton LCSW: These teens and kids who have nowhere to go, right. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: And who need that support to a lot of times maintain your safety, not just from kind of like a psychiatric self harming perspective, but also from not being taken advantage of by other nefarious people out there, all the Mcmurphys of the world, who will all the Mcmurphys of the know. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: I know. Portia Pendleton LCSW: So what we don't see kind of continue is lobotomies, right? So thank God they stopped around the 1950s. And I guess there was one the last one that was recorded in the United States was in 1967, and it actually ended up in the death of the patient who it was performed on. So that has not we've stopped that practice while ECT has become really safe, really effective, really studied, really specifically done. And I just thought that's kind of interesting that they're both shown in the movie a short period of time and kind of right. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Like, at the very end, they don't ever say, like, oh, he got a lobotomy, or that's what happened. You just sort of make the assumption. And I do think as much as we are criticizing this film, it's also important. I'm sure you all agree that we not like us, we did this personally, but as a field, have to acknowledge there have been some bad things that. Portia Pendleton LCSW: Have happened, so we don't do this anymore. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Yeah, it's one of the things I know you'd referenced it before, but every Wednesday I do what's called like a WTF Wednesday right. Where it is kind of like looking back on history, some of the dark sides of the field, and not just the mental health field, but primarily the mental health field, to be like, this is what we did. This is the stuff that we did. Like, what the ****? Right? Sorry. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: That's okay. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: I was like, what were the things that we were doing that was normal at the time? And a lot of it came from just the lack of understanding and just not knowing what we know. We go back and when I was talking about know, we did bloodletting and purging treatment, that was the father who's the I think he's on the seal as the APA, as the father of psychiatry. And he did this therapy where he would put people in chairs and spin the psychosis, the crazy out of them, quote unquote. Right. And I guess those are the things that we were doing. And then again, the shock therapy without anesthesia, that was, again, kind of like how it was depicted in one flu, the Cooper's Nest, without knowing that, hey, we can do this, but do it a lot safer. So very much a lot of ugly, ugly stuff that occurred in the history of psychiatry. And know, again, not even talking about, I think, Samuel Cartwright and some of the people who did a lot of the terrible stuff, like in the history of gynecology, so much stuff there's. Like, you can have a whole discussion on the terrible history of gynecology in. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: American Threat as well, 100%. And I think it is important as present day providers to keep all that history in mind and also keep that healthy degree of skepticism like in the stuff we do these days to think just to stay ethical and humane. And I think also looking back on all those practices, there unfortunately is a lot of racial discrepancies, socioeconomic discrepancies about which patients were getting these treatments or these experimental treatments or things against their will or even against their knowledge. And that's terrible, but we have to keep it in mind to hopefully turn the tides and keep working toward better, more equitable, more open types of treatment. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Yeah, again, when we really look at the racial history of it and again, we saw it kind of in the movie, but not so much all of the black individuals were the orderlies. There were no black patients that were there. I know Chief is again the Native American, but he's a patient as well. But everybody else was white, all the people in power. Yeah, the one white doctor there was, I think, like the Indian doctor and maybe there was some other doctor that was there when they had like, their rounds for that one, during that one scene of rounds and discussing stuff. But again, it's a lot of the white people, but we know that historically, or even not historically, but currently too, black individuals get diagnosed with schizophrenia four times higher than non or than white individuals. So that's something that and we know that these rates are not true. It's not like people are four times more likely to be no, it's just a lot of this goes into the biases that occur. We know that, again, non white kids get diagnosed with ADHD less than white kids. We know that, again, non white kids are having more odd, odd more conduct diagnoses than white kids. There's that aspect of, like, oh, this is just how they are. So, again, we don't look at trauma disorders as much in non white individuals. We're like, oh, this is just characteristically or character logically. This is who they are. And again, these are the biases that come out, and we see them. And a lot of, like, when I'm seeing patients, I end up undiagnosing so many of these diagnoses that are misplaced that I'm like, clearly this kid has trauma, right? Clearly this teenage girl has PTSD. She's not bipolar. Clearly, this kid has ADHD. They have a learning disorder that's never been recognized, right? Because somebody didn't take the time to really sit down with them and discuss them or see what's going on there 100%. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Yeah. Portia Pendleton LCSW: And even we've seen you commented on one of Dr. Callie's videos on you know, I'm just thinking back, I guess, eight years ago, working at a teen male adolescent substance use unit, every single one of them had Odd, like, coming in. It was almost like a prerequisite to be on the unit. Like, you had a substance use disorder, sometimes a couple, and then you had Odd, and it's, like, literally just kind of reflecting back on it. I don't know, 99% of them I'll leave 1% just for room had trauma, like, significant trauma, whether it was chronic or just, like, singular traumas. And that really even eight years ago wasn't really addressed. So I think even now, I think we're doing a better job of just sharing information and kind of deconstruct some of it. And of course, there's always tons of room to grow and keep going. But I think even we've done a lot of work in the past couple of years. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: And I hope that as we keep trying to better understand our patients and the human condition at large, I think we're also starting to talk about that trauma. That different subsets of the population experience is directly tied to the experience of being, like, a black person in America today, for example, that, yeah, there's a lot of trauma that comes with that that you might not call PTSD, but it's there. And it's directly tied to politics, economic, like, all of it. And I think it can feel really overwhelming. And like, you get swallowed up to see that in clinical practice day in and day out. But it's so important to acknowledge rather than saying like, well, you're just oppositional or you're just psychotic or it's so much more complicated than yeah. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: And to kind of give a story with know, I work in Loudoun County in Virginia, which is like the richest county in America. And our neighbor is Fairfax County, which is the second richest county in a certain the patients that we see are certain demographics, I guess you can say, right? Predominantly white. Vinya is predominantly white. There's a shift with it as it's become much more like technologically, a leader and we have a lot of it stuff. So then there's a changing demographic that's kind of there. But I'm always struck by this one patient counter. I'll try to hide details and things, but it was a little African American kiddo, and he had punched one of his peer at school, and he got in trouble for that. Right. And I was trying to see how do I tell this story a little differently? The question I asked is, when they come to me, I'm like, well, why'd you punch the kid? Right. What happened that led to this? Right? And he's like, well, he called me the N word, right? And then I'm like, well, I'm not mad at you. Right, right. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: So what is the right way to. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Handle that, to respond to this bully called him the N word and he punched him back, and then he's the kid who gets in trouble for it. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Right. Did that kid come into the psych unit too? The other kid? Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: No, of course not. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Of course not. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Right? Yeah. So it's like this is how we kind of weaponize racial identity and how our cultural background against people. It's like Kiddo had a perfectly totally normal response. Again, are we condoning violence? Dr. Katrina Furey MD: No. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: But at the same time, do I understand why he punched the kid? Absolutely. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Yeah. Right? Portia Pendleton LCSW: And now, though, he's reactive, he's dangerous, he's violent, he's aggressive. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: He's one of those kids. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: He's one of those aggressive black kids. Right. Again, the narrative that's created that he's a troublemaker and a fighter and blah, blah, blah. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Right. That's a really positive note to leave, to end on. But it's so true. I mean, I think it's heartbreaking, but I think if we just sort of keep our head in the sand and we don't acknowledge these whatever you want to call it, microaggressions, macroaggressions, racism, misogyny, trauma, poverty. If we don't acknowledge it, nothing will get better. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: It's funny. I laugh when you said microaggressions because I just posted like a video recently I talked with Isra Nasser. She's a Pakistani immigrant, and she's become a very much a leader in mental health and the field of in it in the community. And she's a therapist, counselor and stuff. And I posted a clip about microaggressions that she had faced when she came over, immigrated from Saudi Arabia to over here or Canada and then over here. It's a common thing I joke about, like, oh, you speak English? Really? Again? Like, yeah, you're having the reaction that you understand that that's not a cool thing to say. And I posted on YouTube, and then I'm getting all these comments from people being like, again, white people who are being like, people are just being nice to you when they say that. How dare you have this victim mentality. And it's like, you understand you're proving the point by saying I know. Saying that these people are being nice to you by saying that you speak English really well and you are different and you are this and that, and if you have this victim mentality your whole life, this is how you're never going to get advanced in life. Portia Pendleton LCSW: It's still her fault. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Yeah, it's still her fault. I was like, you understand, you're just gaslighting, and you're continuing the microaggressions that are going on by telling people to just be okay with it. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: I know. What am I proving the point? Portia Pendleton LCSW: And it's like, nothing, maybe nothing. You don't need to comment on that. And I think people love commenting on everything, and I think we could do a better job of just keeping some. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Thoughts in our head or just being a little more introspective and even just being able to say, like, oh, wow, I didn't know about microaggressions, or that was a microaggression, or how that landed for this person, given their experience. Maybe I should think about that and maybe reflect and maybe it's okay, I feel remorseful or embarrassed about it, and I could try to do a little better. Maybe I should listen to them. Maybe they are really like the authority on their own lived experience. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Exactly. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Radical idea. Yeah, radical idea. Portia Pendleton LCSW: If you don't have the insight that's true. Open to thinking about things a different way, then, right? That's true. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: That's true. Anyway, well, this was great. Portia Pendleton LCSW: I mean, is there anything else we want to talk about with the movie or just, like the commentary on it? I think the big themes that I think we covered are, like, it's a lot different now in a lot of different ways. Are there still hospitals and units and therapists and psychiatrists who do a better job than others? Of course. Are there some people who maybe shouldn't be in the field? Of course. But I think it's just reminding yourself, even as a patient, like, you should have informed consent, it's okay to ask questions. You're allowed to say, what is this? I'm interested in something else, or can you talk me through this? Dr. Katrina Furey MD: What are my options? Portia Pendleton LCSW: If you're recommending prozac, it's okay to ask, well, what about Lexapro? Like, you're allowed to ask questions to, your know, ideally right. The gold standard of care would be that they're listening actively. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Yeah, I think kind of like, the takeaway I appreciate the movie the way I don't have this. I think you were saying, like, you have this this gut visceral reaction to the movie. I think it's necessary viewing for all I think it's necessary viewing, right, for a lot of people. If you're in the field, again, from the fact that you have to look at it from a lens of history and a lens of, like, this is what not to do, and this is how we don't do things anymore. This is how things may have been. Again, some of this stuff is absolutely dramatized for the sake of great storytelling, and it is a great movie if you look at it from the point of view of just a movie, somebody who's watching the movie, it's earned its accolades and its place in history. But from the mental health field, it's an important movie still, and it has a lasting impact 50 years later. And we have to know that our patients are aware of this. Our clients are aware of this. They know its history. They know what it is. They have a lot of misconceptions about the field because of this, right? So we have to know that going. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Into it as a whole, 100%. And I'm curious we can cut this out if you don't want to talk about this, but you did mention watching this with your children, and I'm just curious what they thought. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Yeah, so I watched it with my eight year old son and my seven year old daughter because I was like, oh, they wanted to do movie night. It's summertime. And I was like, cool. I was like, oh, I have to watch this movie again because I have to talk about it. And they're like, oh, by the way, this was, like, what Baba does for his job, right? He's a psychiatrist. He's one of the people who and these are the people I work lot of it was interesting because they had a lot of questions about what's wrong with this person? What's wrong with the birth, and why are they dancing? What's like, to be like, well, teach them. I was like, well, some people are different. Some people have things that are going on in them that they may act or look or think a little bit differently. And I'm open in saying it. We have someone in our friend community who is like, quote unquote, level three autism. They have intellectual disability communication issues. He's a little bit older, and they play with him and everything like that. And I was like, oh, you know, this guy something's a little bit different with him. Not something's wrong with him, but something a little bit different. And I was like, oh, these are the people that Baba kind of works with a little bit and helps them out, hopefully helps them out. And they're like, oh, okay. And then again, there was a lot of questions. They're like, oh, Baba, they're using a lot of bad words. There's so many bad words in this one, being like, oh, why are they naked together? What's going on? I was like, Guys, close your eyes. Portia Pendleton LCSW: Once the girls come in, you're like. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Oh, well, this is not what Baba does at work. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: I was like, I forgot about this. Again, they're not going to obviously understand everything that was going on in there, and then they enjoyed it. Some stuff they're like, okay, but they're not going to be watching it again and telling their friends that they watched. Right. It's not Transformers or something like that. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Didn'T necessarily grab their attention in the same way. Yeah, but I think that's also just. Portia Pendleton LCSW: Like, a great anecdote of changing language and how important and powerful language is of well, there's a lot of different people. That doesn't mean that they're bad or weird or strange or scary. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Well, thank you so much for joining us today. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Absolutely. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: We hope you just had a blast revisiting this movie with your children, talking about it with us. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Well, thank you. I appreciate yeah. Again, that's the main thing is we have to and a lot of this kind of came from a conversation I had with Dr. Gold as well. Who Jesse? We all love Jesse. She's great. But when we go out, we publish things. If we work our whole life and we get something published in right. Or the New England Journal of Medicine, again, not everybody very rarely that these things occur. This is like the pinnacle of scientific, academic, medical kind of publishing. The layperson just read it. How many people are reading? Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Right, right, exactly. And if they try to read it no, I can't even understand half the time. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Yeah, I don't read this stuff half the time because I'm like, I have to really think about this and, like, statistics. I have to think. I have to use my brain reading this. But we know that, again, people are going to get their information from YouTube or they're going to get it from Twitter, they're going to get it from TikToks or they're going to get it from whatever. It's going to be Vogue magazine and Time magazine. So it's like, it's important for people who have legitimate voices and backgrounds to be in those worlds as well. So that versus the people who we know are misusing those to kind of push out BF. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Yes. Right. Well, keep fighting the good fight. Keep buying your sneakers. I love to see them. Portia Pendleton LCSW: Well, and just to remind everyone who's listening, you can find Solman at the Kicks shrink Instagram. So it's Kick Shrink, as in, like, shoes, and then shrink on Instagram and TikTok and YouTube and find his content there. We certainly like it. So I think you will, too. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Yeah. And thank you once again for joining us, and you can find us again at Analyze Scripts on Instagram. Analyze Scripts podcast on TikTok and threads and we will see you next Monday with another episode. Yeah, thanks. All right, bye. Dr. Sulman Mirza MD: Thanks for having me. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: This podcast and its contents are a copyright of analyzed scripts. All rights reserved. Any redistribution or reproduction of part or all of the contents in any form is prohibited. Unless you want to share it with. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: Your friends and rate review and subscribe, that's fine. Dr. Katrina Furey MD: All stories and characters discussed are fictional in nature. No identification with actual persons, living or deceased places, buildings or products is intended or should be inferred. This podcast is for entertainment purposes only. The podcast and its contents do not constitute professional mental health or medical advice. Listeners might consider consulting a mental health provider if they need assistance with any mental health problems or concerns. 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Kev and Jonnie talk about their most and least favourite fishing mini games Timings 00:00:00: Theme Tune 00:00:30: Intro 00:03:03: What Have We Been Up To 00:12:09: Fishing Mini Games 00:52:14: Ranking 01:02:19: Outro Links Article on fishing in games Contact Al on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheScotBot Al on Mastodon: https://mastodon.scot/@TheScotBot Email Us: https://harvestseason.club/contact/ Transcript [00:00.000 –> 00:12.000] Music [00:12.000 –> 00:30.000] Music [00:30.000 –> 00:39.000] Hello anglers and welcome to, do we still want to call it the harvest season or is it now the fishing season? [00:39.000 –> 00:43.000] Well I think this is the fishing season of the harvest season. [00:43.000 –> 00:51.000] Alright we’re harvesting, I mean fish farms are a thing, hatcheries. Hello everyone, I’m Kevin. [00:51.000 –> 00:53.000] And I’m Johnny. [00:53.000 –> 00:55.000] Yeah, my co-host Johnny here. [00:55.000 –> 01:06.000] We are, I guess this is the first, if I understand the order correctly, of a very special, I think it’s going to be a month roughly? [01:06.000 –> 01:08.000] Yeah, fishing month. [01:08.000 –> 01:10.000] Fishing month, yeah, it’s a very special month. [01:10.000 –> 01:22.000] We are taking a break from the usual pottagecore and farming, well, it’s more of like a tangent than something completely different. [01:22.000 –> 01:31.000] We won’t be covering news, partly because Al will be on vacation during all this time so he won’t be editing. [01:32.000 –> 01:39.000] But yeah, so this kicks off our month where we talk about fishing! [01:39.000 –> 01:47.000] Which we’ve always kind of joked about behind the scenes but I don’t know how I wanted to pull the trigger and really do it. [01:47.000 –> 01:55.000] There’s a lot of fishing in a lot of these cottagecore games and gaming in general as we’ll talk about today. [01:55.000 –> 01:58.000] So we have lots to say about it. [01:58.000 –> 02:00.000] Yeah, lots to say about fishing. [02:00.000 –> 02:10.000] And just a brief reminder before we get into the deep water here, transcripts are available in the show notes and on the website. [02:10.000 –> 02:18.000] But I’m really excited to get stuck into fishing month. I have opinions about fishing in cottagecore games. [02:18.000 –> 02:25.000] Yeah, like, oh boy, I mean it’s not just cottagecore, fishing minigames are everywhere. [02:25.000 –> 02:40.000] Speaking of which, I think we should say that today on this episode we’re specifically going to be discussing fishing minigames and listing some of our favorites and least favorites. [02:40.000 –> 02:50.000] And I think we’re going to try to determine the harvest season official best fishing minigame of all time. [02:50.000 –> 02:58.000] We’re not going to try. We will endorse a fishing minigame as the best fishing minigame in cottagecore games. [02:58.000 –> 03:05.000] Alright. But before that, Gani, what have you been up to? [03:05.000 –> 03:12.000] Why have I been up to? I have been playing the most anti-cottagecore game possible, I think. [03:12.000 –> 03:17.000] And I’ve been farming the demons of hell in Diablo 4. [03:17.000 –> 03:24.000] I love Diablo. I was really into Diablo 3, even when people really hated Diablo 3. [03:24.000 –> 03:28.000] And I was still really into Diablo 3 when everyone got on board with that game. [03:28.000 –> 03:38.000] And so I’m really enjoying Diablo 4. It’s just a really good action-adventure, kill-all-the-things-on-the-screen sort of game. [03:38.000 –> 03:44.000] I’m not super deep into it yet, haven’t had a ton of time, but I am really enjoying it. [03:44.000 –> 03:50.000] It’s just a good one of those games. If you like one of those games, you probably already know and are probably already playing Diablo 4. [03:50.000 –> 03:56.000] And if you don’t like those games, it’s not going to make you like this sort of game anymore, but it’s excellent. [03:56.000 –> 04:01.000] Yeah, that’s cool. I’ve never played a Diablo game, but I hear this one’s good. [04:01.000 –> 04:03.000] It’s very good. [04:03.000 –> 04:10.000] Yeah, that’s awesome. They’re good on you. Actually, I’ve never played, so I can’t speak to it. [04:10.000 –> 04:19.000] But I mean, I think it’s like, what’s on the box is what you get, right? There’s a demon, go kill it. [04:19.000 –> 04:20.000] Very much. [04:21.000 –> 04:29.000] Go farm loot, look at gear, be disappointed that it’s, you know, the number isn’t slightly higher than, you know, it’s a number-go-up sort of game, right? [04:29.000 –> 04:47.000] Yeah. No, I get it. I’ve played, I’m not playing that type of game too much, but surprisingly, well, not surprisingly, my brother Calvin, he’s a big, big Minecraft fan since he was of that generation or whatever. [04:47.000 –> 04:54.000] So he played Minecraft Legends, which I understand is of the, basically the same genre, just the Minecraft skin. [04:54.000 –> 04:57.000] So it’s just worse because it’s got the Minecraft skin? [04:57.000 –> 05:00.000] Well, I mean… [05:03.000 –> 05:12.000] As a slightly aged gamer, I love, you know, propelling new games that all of the kids are into. [05:13.000 –> 05:20.000] Yeah, yeah, no, I get you. But yeah, so you just do runs and get loot at the end, right? Is that how it works? [05:20.000 –> 05:22.000] Yeah, pretty much. [05:22.000 –> 05:30.000] Yep. All right. Yeah, I get it. No, it’s a satisfying loop. Like you said, it gets a bigger number and go back in to get the bigger number. [05:30.000 –> 05:32.000] Yeah, but that’s down below. What have you been up to, Kiv? [05:32.000 –> 05:45.000] Oh, I have been very busy in my personal life, a lot of out-towning, so my gaming time has been limited, and so I’ve been doing a lot of the mobile gaming lately. [05:45.000 –> 05:56.000] Pokemon Masters is Pokemon Masters, my gotcha game of choice. Still no, they introduced those two people from Legends. [05:56.000 –> 06:05.000] It was Edmin and Iridia, the two clan leaders. This is the most I’ve spent, like not actual money, but like the in-game currency on pulls and still haven’t pulled one of them. [06:05.000 –> 06:15.000] But aside from my hopeless gambling addiction, I’ve been playing Marvel Snap, which is, hey, it’s really good. But I mean, like really good right now. [06:15.000 –> 06:23.000] It’s really fun. I don’t feel oppressed by other decks. You can play kind of whatever you want right now, it feels like, and have fun. [06:23.000 –> 06:26.000] You definitely can. Have you been playing the Conquest mode? [06:26.000 –> 06:38.000] Yeah, so they introduced this new mode called Conquest, where basically it’s more than just the best of one, because usually just you play against one player in one game and that’s it. [06:38.000 –> 06:50.000] But now there’s like this, try to win X number of points in a couple of games. I have played it, I have mixed feelings on it, I think it’s a cool thing they tried. [06:50.000 –> 07:01.000] But the problem is you get locked into a number of games with the 12 cards you have and you kind of can’t counter anything, right? [07:01.000 –> 07:08.000] So if you’re up against a deck that just completely crushes you, that’s it. There’s nothing you can do. Just quit as soon as you can. [07:08.000 –> 07:19.000] You can play better or play a better deck. That’s the counter. I kind of get where you’re coming from, but I think Conquest changes the way that you play Snap quite a bit when you play on ladder and it’s best of one. [07:19.000 –> 07:28.000] You can be very all in on the strategy of your deck and not build in a lot of that flexibility because you might run into those decks fairly infrequently. [07:28.000 –> 07:36.000] Whereas a mode like Conquest encourages decks that have a wider variety of counters sort of naturally built into them. [07:36.000 –> 07:44.000] So I’ve been playing the Good Stuff deck and part of the reason I really like that deck for the format is it has a bunch of counters already in it. [07:44.000 –> 07:54.000] It has Shang-Chi, it has Enchantress, so it’s got a number of counters sort of already built in which gives it a lot more flexibility to play in Conquest mode. [07:54.000 –> 08:04.000] Yeah, that makes sense. I know Good Stuff is, well, a good stuff, but I haven’t gotten to it yet because I’ve been having fun with other dumb decks. [08:04.000 –> 08:15.000] There’s spiders across the Spider-Verse movies out, so they’re doing a lot of Spider-Man people in the game right now and I’m playing a deck with a lot of Spider-Man people. [08:15.000 –> 08:21.000] Silk is cool! If you don’t know Comics, look up Silk from the comics because she’s cool. [08:22.000 –> 08:24.000] I don’t know Silk, but I’m a big fan of the cat. [08:24.000 –> 08:31.000] She’s really cool. She’s like the Chinese-American version of Peter Parker. [08:31.000 –> 08:39.000] Anyways, so that’s Marvel Snap. Other than that, I’ve been playing Octopath Traveler, just that classic Square Enix Final Fantasy… [08:39.000 –> 08:48.000] Basically, Final Fantasy, archetypal, good JRPG with the turn-based and classes. [08:48.000 –> 08:53.000] It’s a game I can turn on and grind and turn my brain off and enjoy. [08:53.000 –> 08:56.000] But yeah, that’s all I’ve been up to. [08:56.000 –> 09:03.000] How far into Octopath Traveler are you? It was one of those games that I tried when it first came out and it kind of just didn’t quite grab me. [09:03.000 –> 09:06.000] But I didn’t get that far into it either. [09:07.000 –> 09:10.000] Actually, that’s a great question. [09:10.000 –> 09:19.000] There are eight characters, hence the Octo in the name, and they each have their own little story line. [09:19.000 –> 09:22.000] There’s chapters to each story. [09:22.000 –> 09:30.000] Basically, the way the game structures it, you do chapter one of every one, then do chapter two of every one, chapter three. [09:30.000 –> 09:37.000] And then chapter four is the final level, and I have reached the chapter four for basically everyone. [09:37.000 –> 09:46.000] So I’m at the quote-unquote endgame, so I’m finding the final towns, the final parts of the map, and it’s… [09:46.000 –> 09:48.000] I mean, I still really enjoy it. [09:48.000 –> 09:53.000] It’s somewhat challenging, at least a lot of the bosses and the fights are. [09:54.000 –> 10:00.000] A lot of them are kind of endurance tests and structuring your party well. [10:00.000 –> 10:12.000] I mean, if you like that type of battle system, because that’s really what it amounts to, a really incredible, well-polished battle system, you’ll enjoy Octopath. [10:12.000 –> 10:21.000] But I hear that sequel, Octopath 2, actually improves a lot of the weak areas of the first game, so much that it probably invalidates the first game. [10:21.000 –> 10:25.000] So if you haven’t played Octopath, just play Octopath 2. You won’t be missing anything. [10:25.000 –> 10:35.000] Cool. Yeah, I think I got through some of the first act with most of the characters and kind of bounced off about them. [10:35.000 –> 10:39.000] But I think it’s one of those things with these JRPGs is that they are… [10:39.000 –> 10:50.000] It’s one of the genres that I feel is most sort of holding on to the nostalgia feel, particularly around grinds and some of the strategy in a way that I think is really good. [10:50.000 –> 11:00.000] It sort of differentiates the genre from some of the more modern RPGs in a way that I really like, but it also makes these games a real time suck, right? [11:00.000 –> 11:11.000] Yeah, well, yes and no, because on the one hand, a lot of the battles are grindy and like a boss battle can easily take you 20, 30 minutes. [11:11.000 –> 11:24.000] I’ll say 20, 30 might be a bit long, but either way. But the kicker is, since you’re just going through and beating all these random encounters, you don’t feel like you have to invest a lot of time, right? [11:24.000 –> 11:34.000] Like, okay, I’m just going to play this for 10 minutes and just try to go through this area. Just go through a few battles, level up some guys. [11:34.000 –> 11:45.000] It’s not super plot driven, so you won’t feel like, oh, I don’t remember what I’m doing or whatever. You can just kind of jump in and play for a little bit every day. [11:45.000 –> 11:50.000] But I mean, I say that, but I have like 80 hours in the game, so it is a big time suck. [11:50.000 –> 11:54.000] Nice. [11:54.000 –> 12:04.000] But I don’t hear that from anyone. You’re all playing Tears of the Kingdom. But so, yeah, that’s what I’ve been up to mobile gaming, Octopath. [12:04.000 –> 12:19.000] Now, like I said, we’re not earlier. We’re not doing any news. So let’s dive right on in to these fish infested waters and talk about fishing. [12:19.000 –> 12:30.000] And I thought I thought a good place to start would be a little bit of the history of fishing minigames, and I don’t know too much about it. [12:30.000 –> 12:45.000] But one of the things that I came across when I was doing some research for this episode is that, you know, a lot of the desire and the impetus for fishing minigames came out of Japan because it’s such a strong element of the, you know, Japanese economy and culture. [12:45.000 –> 12:57.000] Obviously, being an island nation, fishing is a huge component of their way of life, which is just something that I’d never really considered before, but makes total sense when you read it. [12:57.000 –> 13:12.000] Yeah. Yeah, of course. Like, me too. I never thought about it, but yeah, of course. Yeah, so much of their culture, what they eat, all around the sea and fishing and all that good stuff. [13:13.000 –> 13:22.000] Yeah, we’ll definitely be dropping the link in the show notes for this article from the Washington Post. It’s definitely worth a read. We’ll be referencing it. [13:23.000 –> 13:39.000] But yeah, that history. Like, I’m going to be paraphrasing slash taking out of context quotes from this article, but fishing has been pretty prevalent in gaming. [13:39.000 –> 13:55.000] From, let’s see here, it says like the first one is in 77, a tech space adventure based on fishing. Three years later, so that would be what, like 1980? We got a fishing derby game from Activision. [13:55.000 –> 14:04.000] That’s really old. That’s older than like most genres, which is pretty crazy to think about, at least in terms of gaming, right? [14:04.000 –> 14:26.000] Yeah, it’s pretty wild. It’s just a, you know, a much longer history than I guess I would have assumed, but it does make sense because it’s a, you know, at the basics of it is a relatively simple mechanic, which probably explains why it still persists as a mini game in so many games today, right? Because it’s potentially relatively simple to implement. [14:26.000 –> 14:51.000] Yep. Yeah, definitely. That’s something this article that goes on to talk about for sure. Because like, again, just going off this article, Zelda was apparently the first fishing mini game? Link’s Awakening, I didn’t realize that, but again, of course, a Japanese game makes a lot of sense that the developers did there. [14:51.000 –> 15:01.000] But like, I just think about the history of fishing mini or, you know, my own personal history and like, wow, like, yeah, it’s always kind of been there. [15:01.000 –> 15:13.000] I would be surprised to hear someone, well, I guess it kind of depends on what kind of games you play, right? Because if you don’t play racing games, you’re not playing fishing mini games. [15:13.000 –> 15:34.000] But if you’re a fan of this show, or maybe someone who enjoys gaming on perhaps a wider scale, you know, I mean, not just a casual phone gamer, I’m sure people played, you know, multi hour games, they’ve had some experience with fishing games, or mini games. [15:34.000 –> 15:40.000] And it’s just really fascinating to think about the wide, wide history. [15:41.000 –> 15:51.000] And it wasn’t until I started thinking about this episode that I really considered the range of games that, you know, fishing is in, because it’s obviously super prevalent in Cottagecore games. [15:51.000 –> 15:57.000] But equally, it’s in, you know, it’s in games like Hades, right? It’s in roguelikes now. [15:57.000 –> 15:58.000] Monster Hunter. [15:59.000 –> 16:08.000] Yeah, Monster Hunter, you’ve got your big open world games like Red Dead Redemption and Final Fantasy 16? 15? [16:08.000 –> 16:15.000] I think all of them, Final Fantasy, insert whatever, you’ll find fishing of some kind. [16:15.000 –> 16:21.000] Oh, yeah, but one of the more recent ones that had such a good fishing mini game that they did a whole spin off game based on it. [16:21.000 –> 16:36.000] Yeah, 15. So, yeah, 15, like that, the star, protagonist Noctis, voiced by Ray Chase, who viewer listeners may or may not know from another episode. [16:36.000 –> 16:47.000] He was, he loved fishing. There was an in game quote, he’s the Prince of Lucius, which is like the fictional country, but he’s the king of fishing. [16:47.000 –> 16:56.000] And yeah, they did a whole VR spin off game for it. Yeah, that was really fun. Yeah, 15, lots of fishing there. [16:56.000 –> 17:05.000] So Kiv, before we dive into the mechanics of fishing, I have a question. In general, would you say you are a fan of fishing mini games? [17:05.000 –> 17:08.000] I’ll say yes. Yes. What about you, Johnny? [17:08.000 –> 17:16.000] I’m going to say no. And the reason I say no is kind of on the basis of that conversation that we’ve just had. Fishing is everywhere. [17:16.000 –> 17:25.000] It’s too much fishing. It’s, to me, it feels a little bit played out. And it’s one of those things, particularly in the context of cottagecore games. [17:25.000 –> 17:32.000] Now, when I see fishing, I kind of just start to roll my eyes a little bit and like, can we can we try something else? [17:32.000 –> 17:44.000] You know, maybe, you know, not to go too better, but I feel like fishing has maybe jumped the shark a little bit in terms of being a mechanic in cottagecore games, [17:44.000 –> 17:59.000] where it’s one of those things that has become such a staple of the genre that I worry that a lot of devs now are including fishing in their game without really thinking about what does this add to the game? [17:59.000 –> 18:11.000] Does it add anything meaningful? And, you know, there are some games that absolutely do add some things that are, you know, does add something meaningful or something that makes sense. [18:11.000 –> 18:19.000] But there’s equally a number of games where I just look at it and go, but why? What is this really adding to your world other than the world happened to have water? [18:19.000 –> 18:22.000] And so you logically thought, well, let’s put fishing in. [18:22.000 –> 18:35.000] Yep. I totally agree with you. But before I dive into more into that, because there’s some interesting thoughts in the article about that, here’s another counter question for you. [18:35.000 –> 18:39.000] Have you fished in real life? Do you enjoy fishing in real life if you have? [18:39.000 –> 18:46.000] I have fished in real life. I live in New Zealand, which is an island nation, so fishing is also pretty big here. [18:46.000 –> 19:00.000] Personally, though, I’m not really into fishing that much. I like going on fishing trips where other people can fish and I can sit on the other end of the boat and read a book. [19:00.000 –> 19:09.000] I much prefer to be on the cooking end. I’m really happy if other people want to go on a fish. I will take the fish and happily cook it up. [19:09.000 –> 19:10.000] Yeah, that’s a good start. [19:10.000 –> 19:22.000] But the actual act of fishing is I’m not super into. The one caveat and the one sort of fishing I would like to try and haven’t tried yet is river angling. [19:22.000 –> 19:27.000] You know, where you get in the big waders and stand in the river with the fly fishing rod and do some proper fly fishing. [19:27.000 –> 19:31.000] I think that that might be a sort of fishing that I could get into. [19:31.000 –> 19:34.000] Jump up and slap you in the face. Yeah, good times. [19:37.000 –> 19:48.000] OK, see, this is interesting because I grew up by the coast here in the United States in California. [19:48.000 –> 19:59.000] I didn’t fish myself that much, but my uncle was a big fisher and my dad liked to go to the beach, so I spent a lot of time by the beach. [19:59.000 –> 20:11.000] There’s a fishing pier I have fond fond memories of. And just generally speaking, I like the ocean and waters in general and the critters inside it. [20:11.000 –> 20:16.000] Just today I went on a jog and I was just admiring like this huge fish I saw in this pond. [20:16.000 –> 20:33.000] But yeah, that’s interesting. I wonder how those, you know, or just in general, I’d mention the correlation of people’s personal histories and their appreciation of fishing minigames, or distaste for them. [20:33.000 –> 20:49.000] But going back to the game part of it. OK, so yes, I fully agree with you that I think too many cottage quarters are putting fishing in. [20:49.000 –> 21:02.000] But it’s interesting to think why, from a developer standpoint, because this article talks about it. And I’ll let you speak about it, Jonna, since you read it a bit more. [21:02.000 –> 21:09.000] Yeah, I think in the article that’s being referenced there’s a few quotes from the Spiritfarer Creative Director. [21:09.000 –> 21:11.000] I like that guy. [21:11.000 –> 21:18.000] Nicholas Guiran. It’s probably a horrible butchering of the pronunciation. [21:18.000 –> 21:24.000] But he kind of talks about fishing games being a nice chore, which is a really interesting point, right? [21:25.000 –> 21:37.000] Because I think that makes total sense in the context of, you know, a big sort of action adventure game like Final Fantasy or Red Dead Redemption, or even in the context of Hades, right? [21:37.000 –> 21:42.000] Where fishing is like this nice little mental break from whatever it is that you’re doing. [21:42.000 –> 21:49.000] But it’s really interesting in the context of a cottage core game where the whole game is kind of nice chores. [21:49.000 –> 21:50.000] Right? [21:50.000 –> 22:00.000] So I think in the context of cottage core games, it seems to be a little bit more of a, A, maybe there’s just an expectation or a default setting that we include fishing. [22:00.000 –> 22:16.000] But also one of the things that’s referenced or that Nicholas references is the fact that maybe it’s a little bit of sort of the creative competition between developers or game designers to show this is our take on fishing and the fishing mechanic. [22:16.000 –> 22:21.000] And here’s our attempt at doing it really, really well, which I think is interesting. [22:21.000 –> 22:31.000] And maybe we can start to segue this a little bit into talking to some of the mechanics, because I think Spiritfarer is one of the games that does fishing pretty well in my estimation. [22:31.000 –> 22:44.000] I think the way the rod breaking sort of mechanic works, you know, where you’ve got the stress testing, it’s the right balance of feeling enough like a mini game, but not being excessively difficult. [22:44.000 –> 22:50.000] And Spiritfarer would be a really weird game to not have fishing, given that the entire game takes place on a boat. [22:50.000 –> 22:51.000] It would, right? [22:54.000 –> 22:57.000] Yeah, no, excuse me, I totally agree. [22:58.000 –> 23:13.000] It’s really interesting to peel back why I enjoy fishing minigames and looking at these thoughts from developers on why they’re put in. [23:13.000 –> 23:16.000] Because like you said, again, it’s a nice chore, right? [23:16.000 –> 23:18.000] And like I said, I like fish. [23:18.000 –> 23:25.000] So for instance, Animal Crossing, I like fishing because I like finding all the sea creatures and putting them in the museum. [23:26.000 –> 23:41.000] But like the actual mechanics, because that’s the other component, the actual gameplay, quote unquote, for the fishing, has to be enjoyable or whatever, right? [23:42.000 –> 23:52.000] And there’s some that like, so I think about, I’m going to bring up Roots of Pacha, which I’ve talked about at length and played recently at length. [23:52.000 –> 23:57.000] The fishing there maybe doesn’t add too much overall. [23:58.000 –> 24:14.000] Again, it feels kind of like just a staple, but the gameplay, quote unquote, part of it is so, I find it so refreshing that I really enjoy that minigame just because of the gameplay part of it. [24:14.000 –> 24:16.000] Again, at least in the spectrum. [24:16.000 –> 24:20.000] So maybe, what is the Roots of Pacha fishing minigame? [24:20.000 –> 24:30.000] Okay, so what it does is it brings up like this circular pool, like you’re looking down at the fish and see their shadows, right? [24:30.000 –> 24:41.000] And you’re kind of, with your cursor, you’re following the fish and a little meter builds up and then you push the button when it’s at the appropriate length. [24:41.000 –> 24:44.000] But the fish will like start to notice you and you have to back off. [24:44.000 –> 24:51.000] And essentially it’s trying to emulate like a type of spear fishing because this is, you know, Stone Age, they don’t have fishing rods. [24:51.000 –> 24:58.000] So it’s like that you’re following the fish in the water and waiting for the right moment to catch it or strike at it or whatever. [24:58.000 –> 25:04.000] And I found that so novel because it’s not just a timing thing. [25:04.000 –> 25:13.000] It’s a movement based thing, both in terms of like you’re moving your cursor and like how they’re presenting it. [25:13.000 –> 25:20.000] And you just, it’s not just your everyday fishing rod timing based minigame. [25:20.000 –> 25:27.000] And it fits with the theme of the Stone Age so well, like, yeah, that’s how those Stone Age people probably fish to survive. [25:28.000 –> 25:34.000] You know, they can’t go to the store to buy dinner or whatever, so they have to fish to get their food. [25:34.000 –> 25:40.000] So even though, like, I don’t remember a single fish in that game because they gave them all weird names, [25:40.000 –> 25:48.000] I still really enjoy that minigame just because it fit the game so well and the little gameplay of it was so different. [25:48.000 –> 25:50.000] Yeah, that sounds really good and it sounds really novel. [25:50.000 –> 25:56.000] And I think that’s, you know, when I think about what I want from fishing minigames and cottagecore games, that sounds like exactly it. [25:56.000 –> 26:00.000] You know, it makes sense in the world and the context that’s being set. [26:00.000 –> 26:04.000] It’s a very novel approach. [26:04.000 –> 26:11.000] And you sort of touched on it briefly, but a lot of the fishing minigames are sort of these timing based minigames. [26:11.000 –> 26:17.000] And they’re sort of the range of, and probably what I would put more down, the simple end of the spectrum. [26:17.000 –> 26:22.000] And this is often for me the category where it feels like it’s sort of the most tacked on. [26:22.000 –> 26:30.000] And, you know, one of the games that I’ll sort of use as a reference point is Disney Dreamlight Valley, where fishing is in that game. [26:30.000 –> 26:34.000] And it’s a very simple, you know, timing based thing. [26:34.000 –> 26:43.000] You know, the only times I fail are when I, you know, start checking my phone in the middle of the fishing minigame or get like briefly distracted. [26:43.000 –> 26:47.000] But it’s a very generous sort of timing based minigame. [26:47.000 –> 26:56.000] But overall fishing doesn’t add a huge amount to that game other than it’s, you know, you need to go and fish certain things up for quests. [26:56.000 –> 27:05.000] But it’s more these things exist, you know, the quests and the reason to interact with fishing exist because fishing exists. [27:05.000 –> 27:12.000] It doesn’t feel like fishing is this crucially important part of what’s happening in Disney Dreamlight Valley, [27:12.000 –> 27:19.000] which is all about interacting with characters and, you know, Disney characters in a cottagecore setting. [27:19.000 –> 27:25.000] And the other game that you reference right at the start of the conversation, which has a timing element, is Animal Crossing. [27:25.000 –> 27:32.000] And what I like about Animal Crossing fishing is the collection aspect of it. [27:32.000 –> 27:37.000] But the fishing minigame itself is just unbelievably tedious. [27:37.000 –> 27:47.000] You know, the combination of needing to get the direction exactly right with the sort of just boring wait to press a version of it. [27:47.000 –> 27:53.000] I don’t think the fishing minigame in Animal Crossing is particularly good or interesting. [27:54.000 –> 28:02.000] Yeah. Yeah. I agree with you on paper. It’s definitely just the slot machine, no fishing game. [28:02.000 –> 28:07.000] But I still like it, though, because the collection, like you said. [28:07.000 –> 28:13.000] OK, but I want to go back to one step here to the Disney Dreamlight Valley. [28:13.000 –> 28:18.000] I got two comments on that. First, what you said there reminds me of Wildflowers. [28:18.000 –> 28:22.000] Hey, Kevin mentioning Fowlflowers. Reset the clock. [28:22.000 –> 28:29.000] I don’t think the fishing there adds a lot because it’s just pretty much like what you described. [28:29.000 –> 28:36.000] Very generous timing and you fish up your average nothing special fish. [28:36.000 –> 28:43.000] And what’s disappointing is that there’s these magical areas in Wildflowers, right? [28:43.000 –> 28:48.000] Because there’s witchcraft and the magical forest area. [28:48.000 –> 28:54.000] But there’s only one type of magical fish, which I found to be very disappointing. [28:54.000 –> 28:58.000] Possibly one of the biggest disappointments in the game. [28:58.000 –> 29:07.000] You know, I think they really missed an opportunity to add a bunch of magical fish to do all sorts of potions and whatnot. [29:07.000 –> 29:11.000] So, yeah, no, I definitely understand what you’re saying there. [29:11.000 –> 29:15.000] But the second comment I have for Disney Dreamlight Valley, and here’s the important. [29:15.000 –> 29:22.000] This is what makes or breaks it for me. Can you fish up Flounder as in the character, not the type of fish? [29:22.000 –> 29:28.000] You couldn’t last time I played and I’m pretty sure I’m pretty sure they’re not going to let you fish up Flounder. [29:28.000 –> 29:34.000] I failed! That’s the point! [29:34.000 –> 29:40.000] I want to call up Nemo, darn it! [29:40.000 –> 29:44.000] I don’t know that that’s going to be happening in the game. [29:44.000 –> 29:49.000] What’s the point? [29:49.000 –> 29:54.000] So what about the slightly more involved fishing mechanics? [29:54.000 –> 30:01.000] I’m thinking of Stardew Valley as sort of the quintessential example of a slightly more in-depth mini-game. [30:01.000 –> 30:08.000] Where you’re having to keep the fish in the green zone in order to reel it in. [30:09.000 –> 30:18.000] I like those on paper. I think the Stardew team or Concerned Ape or whoever said, [30:18.000 –> 30:24.000] okay, everyone knows that Animal Crossing fishing is like, let’s make it a little more interesting. [30:24.000 –> 30:31.000] And I think that’s a good idea. I don’t think Stardew specifically does it well. [30:31.000 –> 30:37.000] But Spiritfarer I think is a good example of that, right? [30:37.000 –> 30:42.000] Where the fish is tugging on it. There’s essentially a green zone, you don’t see the bar. [30:42.000 –> 30:47.000] But there’s a green zone and it tells you when the fish is going to break the line or whatever. [30:47.000 –> 30:51.000] So I do appreciate some of those. [30:51.000 –> 30:55.000] I think because this is kind of the middle of the spectrum, right? [30:55.000 –> 31:00.000] It’s not just one button push fishing and it’s not the full fishing simulator. [31:00.000 –> 31:06.000] This I think is the most mixed bag of quality. [31:06.000 –> 31:09.000] Or at least for me personally, how I enjoy them. [31:09.000 –> 31:14.000] On paper I do like the idea of trying to make the fishing more interesting. [31:14.000 –> 31:18.000] Again, Roots of Patch I think really knocks it out of the park. [31:18.000 –> 31:21.000] Spiritfarer I really enjoyed. [31:21.000 –> 31:25.000] But there are some that aren’t great like Stardew. What about you? [31:25.000 –> 31:31.000] I could not agree more. I think Stardew Valley fishing is just an abomination. [31:31.000 –> 31:34.000] It’s so bad. It’s not fun. [31:34.000 –> 31:43.000] And I think one of the worst things about it is it’s the sort of fishing minigames that A kind of gets easier over time. [31:43.000 –> 31:49.000] And in order to balance it there are some fish that are really easy to catch and they’re kind of boring. [31:49.000 –> 31:52.000] And then the hard fish kind of just bounce around all over the space. [31:52.000 –> 31:55.000] And it’s just like it’s so frustrating to try and catch it. [31:55.000 –> 32:06.000] It’s like once you catch the fish for whether it’s for the full collection log or for the community center and you finally get that one fish. [32:06.000 –> 32:10.000] My instinctive response is thank God I don’t have to do that again. [32:10.000 –> 32:12.000] Oh gosh yes. [32:12.000 –> 32:18.000] If that’s how as a player you are responding to a game mechanic, that’s a sign that that is a bad game mechanic, right? [32:18.000 –> 32:27.000] If you’re like wow thankfully I’ve done that and now I never have to do that thing again, it’s a sign that it’s not great. [32:27.000 –> 32:32.000] And yes I really don’t enjoy the fishing in Stardew Valley. [32:32.000 –> 32:36.000] I enjoyed it in Spiritfarer for me that was sort of the right level. [32:36.000 –> 32:41.000] It was necessary to progress some elements of the story. [32:41.000 –> 32:49.000] But like you said the reeling in mechanic you know it’s kind of got that green zone effect but it happens in a much more natural way. [32:49.000 –> 32:51.000] A way that’s much more integrated with the world. [32:51.000 –> 33:00.000] It’s not a pop-up that happens on screen like so many fishing minigames are where it’s you know some weird pop-up and then keep a thing in a thing style mechanic. [33:00.000 –> 33:09.000] So for me that’s a pretty great example of a fishing minigame that I think really works. [33:09.000 –> 33:13.000] And it’s not something you have to do all of the time either. [33:13.000 –> 33:19.000] You can do it if you want but it’s not like a necessary thing to really progress too much in the game. [33:19.000 –> 33:22.000] Yeah yeah no I agree for sure. [33:22.000 –> 33:31.000] And I guess there aren’t many examples but there’s the far end of the spectrum like Spiritfarer on steroids. [33:31.000 –> 33:38.000] Have you ever played like any serious fishing simulators or more in-depth fishing minigames? [33:38.000 –> 33:45.000] Not in the cottagecore genre but the one I always think of is the fishing minigame in Red Dead Redemption 2. [33:45.000 –> 33:50.000] So that’s one where you’re sort of actively pulling your rod you know against the fish. [33:50.000 –> 33:56.000] You’ve got to reel in at certain times, let go at certain times kind of like the Spiritfarer one. [33:56.000 –> 34:03.000] So it’s kind of that next step up and it’s probably not at the far end of the you know full fishing simulator. [34:03.000 –> 34:10.000] But it’s incorporating you know multiple mechanics where you’re reeling, you’re pulling the rod in a certain direction. [34:10.000 –> 34:14.000] You can do a hard yank and all sorts of things. [34:14.000 –> 34:17.000] I haven’t seen it in a cottagecore game. [34:17.000 –> 34:28.000] I’m not sure that I would want to see it in a cottagecore game unless it was a sort of very specifically fishing based cottagecore game. [34:28.000 –> 34:32.000] I was about to say that that’s what we I’m surprised we haven’t really gotten that yet. [34:32.000 –> 34:39.000] It feels like we’re overdue for a very fishing based cottagecore game. [34:39.000 –> 34:42.000] Yeah let’s I want to see that. [34:42.000 –> 34:51.000] But I mean I haven’t played Red Dead but I have played Sonic Frontiers and hey Sega they made Sega Bass Pro Fishing. [34:51.000 –> 34:55.000] So guess what they can make a darn good fishing minigame with Big the Cat. [34:55.000 –> 34:57.000] They actually made him cool in that game. [34:57.000 –> 35:04.000] I will reference Big the Cat in every single one of these fishing episodes. [35:04.000 –> 35:06.000] I will not be stopped. [35:06.000 –> 35:14.000] Okay so but I think that more or less covers the gamut of the you know kinds of fishing games. [35:14.000 –> 35:18.000] So let’s see here what. [35:18.000 –> 35:20.000] Well let’s talk about the reward system right. [35:20.000 –> 35:26.000] So what do you actually get out of fishing because this is where I think this is one of those things. [35:26.000 –> 35:40.000] It’s slightly different from the mechanics and one of the things that I found referenced in a few places that I found really interesting is there was a bit of comparison drawn between fishing minigames and loot boxes. [35:40.000 –> 35:49.000] The idea being that you know often in fishing minigames like part of it is like what fish am I actually getting out and you don’t know until you complete the activity. [35:49.000 –> 35:57.000] And that sort of triggering the same spot in your brain that’s like well I’m looking for the rare fish or the big fish or whatever it is. [35:57.000 –> 36:06.000] And when that was mentioned like it made sense to me primarily in the context of a game like Animal Crossing right where you’re going around hunting for those big fish spots. [36:06.000 –> 36:12.000] And then you know you go and reel in maybe it’s the shark spot and you reel in the sunfish and you’re annoyed because you’re really after the great white or whatever it is. [36:12.000 –> 36:23.000] Like I was like ah like maybe that is the thing about fishing minigames and why they’re kind of you know quite good is because they do have that loot boxy element in every other aspect of a cottagecore game. [36:23.000 –> 36:35.000] You pretty much know what you’re getting out but fishing is that sort of blind box element of randomness that can be brought in a really easy way in a way that makes sense in the world. [36:35.000 –> 36:51.000] Yeah yeah um yeah no it’s man seeing that comparison to loot boxes or the Pavlovian button you know like oh that was rough to hear because I totally see it now. [36:51.000 –> 37:00.000] I enjoy Animal Crossing but it’s the fishing it’s totally just that just a slot machine I just like pushing the button to get the cool thing. [37:01.000 –> 37:14.000] And you’re probably going through the same thing I went through like when I first heard that comparison I just had a real moment of like oh my god the way I have responded to fishing in Animal Crossing is kind of like someone that keeps losing on the slot machine right. [37:14.000 –> 37:27.000] You’re trying to fish up that one fish before the season ends and you’re just like actively running around really angry and you know like kind of frustrated at this cute cozy game because you’re not getting that one fish it’s just like I feel really really attacked. [37:27.000 –> 37:34.000] Yep yep I’m tagged in this post and I don’t like it. [37:36.000 –> 37:49.000] But that said though like but the fish are so cool the reward’s so nice right pulling up your first shark or filling up that museum I love it I love it I love sea creatures so. [37:50.000 –> 38:02.000] No it is it is great and it’s one of the things about Animal Crossing and it’s why ultimately the fishing still works is you know there’s fishing in terms of the mechanic and what you get when you feel you know when you pull it out. [38:02.000 –> 38:12.000] But then there’s also the so what do you actually get out of the fish right what do they mean in the context of the rest of the game because it’s not just fishing is a thing that you do and then it’s done. [38:12.000 –> 38:29.000] Like he said with Animal Crossing I love filling up the museum and walking around and seeing all of the fish in there and outside of that fish are a relatively good money maker so I that’s why I really like the ultimately on balance I think fishing in Animal Crossing is okay. [38:29.000 –> 38:42.000] Versus something like Stardew Valley where it’s like yeah you need the fish to complete some community bundles and to complete some stuff and they kind of used a little bit in cooking but cooking isn’t like some majorly essential thing to do in Stardew Valley. [38:42.000 –> 38:50.000] And outside of that it’s kind of terrible right it’s a terrible money maker it doesn’t really help you achieve anything else. [38:50.000 –> 39:01.000] It’s kind of just feels like tacked on in this way that’s kind of needed from a content perspective but it feels very disjointed from everything else that happens in Stardew Valley. [39:01.000 –> 39:30.000] Absolutely which again yeah I guess which feeds into why I’m not fond of the Stardew fishing for that exact reason right yeah like I can’t think of a reason aside from the filling out the collection like you said and thank God I never have to do it again I aside from that I don’t can’t remember like enjoying fishing particularly at Stardew at all or catching anything like I don’t remember any exciting moments for me. [39:31.000 –> 39:36.000] But yeah no and like I said again I’m going to bring it Roots of Pacha. [39:36.000 –> 39:53.000] It’s interesting because the rewards it’s a good money maker so that’s why I do it kind of like Animal Crossing and Roots of Pacha but I don’t care about the creatures at all which is so interesting to me that it doesn’t deliver like Animal Crossing but I still enjoy it because of the mechanics. [39:53.000 –> 40:07.000] It’s fascinating to think about all these different aspects of these little mini games that can be adjusted you know they’re kind of like I like the reward but not the mechanic or vice versa and whatnot and how they all come together. [40:08.000 –> 40:19.000] And that’s such a fascinating point because how many fish do you think you now know about because of Animal Crossing so many slight. [40:20.000 –> 40:25.000] Nobody on Earth knew what notion sunfish was before Animal Crossing. [40:26.000 –> 40:27.000] Right. [40:30.000 –> 40:36.000] And even little things right like the puns you know everybody loves to like mock the puns a little bit but the amount of like you know. [40:37.000 –> 40:39.000] The game likes to mock the puns. [40:39.000 –> 40:40.000] Right. [40:41.000 –> 40:56.000] But it’s such a great way of like you know I’m never going to like forget the sea bass or maybe more of a C plus like it’s just so good and it sticks in your mind and it’s funny I’ve been getting a little bit into Cryptocrosswords the last few months. [40:56.000 –> 41:12.000] And one of the things that’s weird about Cryptocrosswords is the random areas of knowledge that it really relies on and there’s those times where you know there’s a clue about fish and I would say that most of the time I get it it’s because I’ve played Animal Crossing and I know that weird fish because of that game. [41:12.000 –> 41:27.000] Yeah it’s it’s amazing the impact Animal Crossing has had on our generation’s like knowledge of sea creatures. [41:28.000 –> 41:52.000] But and which in itself is a reward like I not only do I like to like I get again biased here because I actually enjoyed sea creatures in real life but like when you go to the museum they have little plaques you can read and you learn stuff about sea creatures and you know the different animals insects and whatnot and I find that fascinating. [41:53.000 –> 41:54.000] Yeah. [41:54.000 –> 42:08.000] For such a simple mechanically simple minigame they give you a lot of rewards from that which is why I think Animal Crossing fishing has still remained pretty popular I would say overall. [42:08.000 –> 42:09.000] Agree. [42:09.000 –> 42:28.000] The other thing that you do with fish right is cooking obviously and cooking is present in a lot of cottagecore games and it’s honestly something that I don’t engage too much with as a mechanic because I think it I think cooking in general struggles from again having a clear purpose back to anything else. [42:28.000 –> 42:51.000] Not to sort of you know spread too much Spiritfarer love as has been the the want of the show for many years but I think one of the smart things about that game is cooking was not about what your character got out of it but actually something for the other characters that inhabited the world and so it made a lot of sense in that respect and is by far and away the cottagecore game that I have done the most cooking in. [42:52.000 –> 43:17.000] And it’s always one of those interesting things in relation to fishing because often you know you catch so many different varieties of fish but when it comes to cooking it’s often like we’ll just throw in a fish of whatever and the dish will come out right and so you might have all of this complexity about different fish types that you’re catching but ultimately it’s kind of like well and then out the other end it’s just you know a fish doesn’t really matter just catch whatever and put in whatever. [43:18.000 –> 43:37.000] And I think it’s a really hard balance to strike I don’t know what the right answer should be in terms of making cooking or doing something with the fish as interesting but I don’t I can’t think of too many games where outside of donating to a museum where I’ve had a really strong connection to what I do with the fish post catching it. [43:38.000 –> 43:59.000] Yeah gosh cooking’s a whole topic on its own for sure because I like cooking in real life as you said cooking up the fish is I love seafood I love eating fish again growing up on the coast but yeah that is hard to emulate isn’t it. [44:00.000 –> 44:13.000] Again I think it’s just something you really have to focus on we need more cooking cottage core games as a side tangent we could use that but no I think I pretty much agree with all your points. [44:13.000 –> 44:21.000] Well I think that’s I don’t know that I have too much else to say about the sort of fishing or fishing mini games generally do you have anything else? [44:21.000 –> 44:30.000] No I don’t think so either so are we ready to dive in and make Crown a winner? [44:30.000 –> 44:31.000] And a loser. [44:31.000 –> 44:35.000] I wonder who that will be? [44:35.000 –> 44:41.000] I thought it might be more of a debate but based on the conversation we’ve just had I think we might be on the same page. [44:41.000 –> 44:49.000] Alright let’s start with the negative what fishing mini games do you hate, dislike, etc? [44:49.000 –> 45:09.000] Look I already have one nominee for this category and it’s Stardew Valley I think the fishing is so bad it’s I never want to do it I always get forced into doing it I don’t think there is anything particularly redeemable about fishing in that entire game. [45:10.000 –> 45:29.000] I just hate it and I think it’s the it’s for me it’s the worst aspect right because the game mechanic itself is too in depth to kind of you know like I don’t like the fishing in Disney Dreamlight Valley that much but it’s so easy it’s you know not really that that offensive to me. [45:29.000 –> 45:55.000] Whereas in Stardew it’s like you have to dedicate days in game days to just fishing in order to progress things like it’s this thing you have to do it takes so much time it’s so complicated it’s frustrating to start and then when you’re done you never want to do it again and I don’t think the things that you do with the fish in any way interesting enough to warrant it. [45:55.000 –> 46:00.000] So for me it’s like it’s like the loser in all categories that we just spoke about. [46:25.000 –> 46:35.000] It’s a general gaming no no for me like make your tutorial or game mechanics clear whatever and then when I finally figured out and it still sucked you know. [46:37.000 –> 46:49.000] Yeah, which is the worst right because like sometimes things can be complicated or poorly explained because it can be hard to explain things sometimes and you’re like oh that’s fun but when you work it out and you’re like wow it still sucks when I know what I’m supposed to do. [46:49.000 –> 47:06.000] Yep, yep, yep, yep. So yeah I think okay so I think it’s clear that is a THS worst minigame fishing minigame. Do you have any other ones you’re not fond of though? [47:06.000 –> 47:19.000] I mean it’s not one that I want to call out specifically but I think anything that just sort of falls into the category of press A get a fish and it’s kind of just tacked on. [47:20.000 –> 47:39.000] You know I just I think with game mechanics right I want things to be really well edited everything to have a clear purpose and so it’s just anything where it’s sort of tacked on and not really super clear why it’s in the game. [47:39.000 –> 47:56.000] I think don’t just put fishing in games because fishing is in all of the other games right. So my sort of second runner up you know my least favorite is Stardew Valley and my second runner up is every other game that has you know without clear intent put fishing into their game. [47:57.000 –> 48:21.000] Yeah that’s that’s a wide that’s definitely a wide spectrum. I’m gonna give a nominee I agree with you for sure there I can’t like I think they’re so bad I can’t even remember one right now that like I know they’re out there I’ve experienced them but they’re just so forgettable right like I can’t even think of one that. [48:22.000 –> 48:41.000] Exactly right there’s there you know in every game like chances are if you’re thinking about why haven’t they mentioned X games you know fishing mechanic it probably falls into the category that we’ve just talked about because they don’t stick in your mind but if I went back and fired up that game and started playing it be like oh that’s right not doing that. [48:41.000 –> 48:55.000] Yeah yeah I will give another honorable dishonorable mention I guess to Monster Hunter. I forget have you played Monster Hunter Johnny I don’t think you have but. [48:56.000 –> 48:57.000] No not really. [48:57.000 –> 49:06.000] Okay so I love the Monster Hunter games and fishing is really weird because. [49:07.000 –> 49:21.000] It should be better and I don’t mean like you know like just generally you want every bad thing to be better but so much of Monster Hunter is gathering materials to craft stuff that’s a big part of the loop right and so you think. [49:21.000 –> 49:37

Episode 2049 - Are Tesla power stations Pavlovian conditioning? The dumbing down of America. The vaccine deaths are being covered up. Kennedy attacked for trying to prevent autism? The conspiracy against normalcy. Ted reviews The Sound of Freedom. Plus much much more. This is a high energy must listen broadcast.

Jim talks with Damien Walter about science fiction and the mechanics of myth. They discuss the roles of pathos & ethos in science fiction, Damien's lifelong fascination with sci-fi, the symbolon of "science fiction," Star Trek vs Star Wars, categorizing Star Wars, Asimov's idea of psychohistory, The Lord of the Rings & the value of myth, the Inklings literary group, the metaphysics of Tolkien, fostering a creator culture, creating as an alternative to consumption, Jim's Script Helper program & opening the door to creativity, the collapse of status competition to money & beauty, the corporate entertainment franchise, collaborative virtual world-making, addictive games & porn, the highjacking of the red pill metaphor, Pavlovian conditioning in games, positioning between the most virtuous & the most evil, the way that evil eats itself, a book recommendation, systems novels, science fiction as philosophy fiction, the novels of Neal Stephenson, and much more. Episode Transcript Damien Walter (website) Damien Walter (Substack) Damien Walter (Medium) The Rhetoric of Story course "The Truth of Myth: JRR Tolkien and the return of the mythos," by Damien Walter JRS EP 188 - Robert Tercek on Intellectual Property in the Time of AI The Humane Use of Human Beings, by Norbert Weiner JRS EP143 - John Vervaeke Part 1: Awakening from the Meaning Crisis JRS EP 185 - Daniel Suarez on the Near Future of Space Exploration There Is No Antimemetics Division, by qntm Termination Shock, by Neal Stephenson Damien Walter is a writer and a storyteller who has written for The Guardian, the BBC, Wired, The Independent, Aeon, and others. He teaches The Rhetoric of Story and Writing the 21st-Century Myth to over 35,000 students worldwide, and is the host of the Science Fiction Podcast.  

Are you living the life that you were created to live? I explore.  People have harbored unfounded real estate fears for years. Here they were: 2012: Shadow inventory 2013: Boomers downsizing 2014: Rates spike 2015: PMI recession 2016: Vacant units 2017: Home prices above pre-GFC peak 2018: 5% mortgage rates 2019: Recession? 2020: Pandemic 2021: Forbearance crisis 2022: Rising rates 2023: Recession US houses prices are heading up this spring. The latest FHFA's Monthly Housing Report shows 4% national home price appreciation. We explore apartment reputation scores. This is a great proxy for what's happened in housing the past three years. As an investor, you have a low “loss to purchase” with your tenants. It's difficult for them to buy their first home. I discuss 12 Ways that you can raise the rent and increase the value of your property. Resources mentioned: Show Notes: www.GetRichEducation.com/449 Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE  or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Find cash-flowing Jacksonville property at: www.JWBrealestate.com/GRE Invest with Freedom Family Investments. You get paid first: Text ‘FAMILY' to 66866 Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search “how to leave an Apple Podcasts review”  Top Properties & Providers: GREmarketplace.com Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free—text ‘GRE' to 66866 Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Keith's personal Instagram: @keithweinhold Credit to BiggerPockets.com   Welcome to GRE! I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. We get clear together - Are you truly living the life that you were created to live?   A housing market update with some perspective that can totally shift your real estate thought paradigm.    Then, 12 Actionable Ways that you can raise the rent and add value to your property. Today, on Get Rich Education.   Welcome to GRE! From Johannesburg, South Africa to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania and across 188 nations worldwide, I'm Keith Weinhold and this is Get Rich Education.   Last night, people were losing sleep over money. At the same time, last night, you made money… as you slept.   Are you living the life that you were created to live?   Your big ideas, your grandiose hopes and ambitions that you promised yourself that you would follow through on someday… have they turned into fears?   Even ones that you had as a child - like to be an astronaut or a firefighter. Today, it might simply be that you would have quit your soul-sucking job by now.   Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs - how many are you fulfilling? All five? There are five levels. The base level are your… What are you doing to be the most that you can be?    With financial freedom, you can control your time and have a chance at living the life that you were created to live.   How do most people think of financial betterment? In a faulty way, like…   If you get your hair cut at home and brew your own coffee at home, you figure you could save 6 bucks a day.   Hey, Men's Fast-Pitch Softball at the Moose Lodge is still free. Oh geez. So that's why it's your entertainment?   You could save a whopping $80 on flight tickets by adding an extra layover on your trip itinerary.   Or… it's buy-one-get-one free week on Hillshire Farm brand bacon at the supermarket.   Alright, how do you know that all those things right there don't move the meter in your life? It's because, ask:   How many times would you have to do that activity - like add an unnecessary flight layover - in order to acquire wealth?    None. It doesn't apply. You could practically do that an INFINITE number of times and you wouldn't acquire wealth to create the time to live the life you want.   But how many times would you need to add a flight layover in order to make you MISERABLE? There IS a number. There is a certain number.   Doing those trivial things only helps ensure that you stay at a soul-sucking job.   Because rather than taking your time - a zero-sum game - rather than HAVING your time engaged in expansionary activities, you were focused on contracting.    You were focused on where there's a low upside rather than activities that have an upside with no ceiling.   Another way to ask if the activity is expansionary and moving you toward financial freedom is: Did you overcome FEAR in fulfilling that task?   Yes, it's an inconvenient truth that facing & overcoming fear is what makes you grow.   Did you overcome fear when you brewed coffee at home or got some stupid discount on grocery store bacon?   What are the activities you do that move you toward financial freedom - not debt-freedom - but financial freedom & overcome fear & grow.   That's an activity like:   Making your first home a fourplex with an FHA loan… or repositioning your dead equity, like Caeli Ridge & I discussed here two weeks ago… or buying an income property across state lines… or learning how to become a savvy private lender… or finding out how to become an accredited investor.   Are you living the life that you were created to live?   Now you've got some examples, some milestones, and some checkpoints so that you'll know if you're either on the right trajectory - or hopefully - if you've been listening here long enough… you're living that life… now.   Why would you live one more day of your life “below your means” than what's absolutely necessary. That should only be a short-term life mode.   Don't live below your means, grow your means.   Live the life that you were created to live.   But the major media channels stir up so much fear - and even niche ones - that it can often paralyze, even some clear thinkers.   Despite the fact that today's real estate appreciation rates are quite normalized and modestly growing, some people still have unfounded fear over real estate.   And non-doers are always trying to time the market… and timing the market doesn't work.    Here's what fearful permabears are concerned about. It's always something in real estate.    In 2012, it was “Shadow inventory”. Remember that? Never came to pass, just like most of this stuff.   In 2013, the fear was Boomers are downsizing   In 2014: Rates spike   In 2015, it was a PMI recession   In 2016, it was vacant units. Ha! A terrible miss.   In 2017, it was, look, nominal home prices are above the pre-GFC peak. Yeah, so what? They should be.   In 2018, it was 5% mortgage rates. That was the fear.   In 2019, I actually don't remember what the fear was that year. That was a fairly uniform year but people stirred up fear about something in order to get clicks. Call it a recession.   In 2020, it was the pandemic   In 2021, it was fear of a forbearance crisis.   In 2022, the fear was rising mortgage rates will cause a housing price crash and there's a collapse in sales volume.   In 2023, what's the fear? Are we back to recession fears again?    Gosh, people have been steadily forecasting that for 12-18 months now, it still isn't here, and it still isn't on the horizon either, as job growth numbers keep beating expectations.    If you're waiting to invest in the most proven investment of all-time - real estate, or even something else like gold or bitcoin or stocks - if you're waiting until the uncertainty dissipates, then you'll never be investing again for the rest of your life.   About the only certain thing in the investing world is persistent inflation and the fact that people are going to need a good place to live.   I invest in the certainties, not get paralyzed with uncertainty.   This way, we don't get too caught up in the latest investing fad, often like stock investors do.    In 2017, it was anything around “blockchain.” In 2021, it was the “metaverse.” In 2023, “AI” is the term that's instigated a Pavlovian response from investors salivating over the potential hundreds of billions in value that could be unlocked by the new technology… until that gets oversold. There IS some opportunity in some of those things, but as soon as people lose money in them, they revert back to principles. In a lot of ways, we stick to principles here, even if some of them are countercultural principles - like FF beats DF. Keep your debt & get more of it. More debt means you own more RE.   US house prices have stabilized and are heading up. They've gone from modest declines or steady prices… to modest growth in most regions.   That's the summary from my latest "light reading" duty—FHFA's Monthly Housing Report. It's released every month.   Some highlights from the latest one, all stats through February, and with nominal pricing… Every division east of the Mississippi is up 5% to 8% annually The Pacific division, which was hurt most, saw a 3% decline National home prices are up 4% And this index covers 400+ American cities Spring numbers will be factored in soon. Since it's property-buying season, appreciation rates will likely rise.   Like I've stated before and am becoming really somewhat known for talking about in the industry. In fact, just last week, I was in Arizona and shared this on Ken McElroy's show - the housing crash is a 100% certainty. That's because it already happened.    It was a housing supply crash three years ago, which prevented a price crash.   So then, let's look at some of the best appreciating markets in the US here, just the quick, Top 10.    And notice how widespread the national HPA is. It really just excludes the western third or western quarter of US states.   The market with the 10th most appreciation - and this is all YOY, through Q1 per the NAR:   Santa Fe, NM up 12% 9th is Hickory-Morganton, NC up 12% 8th is Appleton, WI up 12-and-a-half per cent 7th? Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis, WI. Up 14%. I'm doing some rounding here. 6th is Oklahoma City, up 15% Elmira, NY - hey I grew up near there - is up 15%. That's 5th.   4th is Burlington, NC up 15% YOY 3rd is Warner-Robins, GA, up 16%  2nd is Oshkosh-Neenah, WI at 17% #1 in the nation is… the Kingsport-Bristol area, which spans Virginia & Tennessee. Up 19%   I'm going to discuss apartments in a minute. But they are the 10 US areas with the largest single-family home price increase annually.   In the Information Age, a bad reputation will follow you around like your cat, internet tracking cookies, and a song that you can't get out of your head.   Apartment reputation scores are a broad measure of renter satisfaction.   It's amazing to see how closely they track the macro trends that impact tenants and property managers (PMs).   What I'm referencing here is J Turner Research's Online Reputation Assessment scores from today, and going back to March 2020.   This is a very telling pattern here.   Spring - Summer 2020: COVID descends. Lockdowns are here. Reputation scores plummet. PMs struggle to rapidly adjust to a new era where renters live and work inside their units 24/7. Everyone started using Zoom. Maintenance techs could rarely even go inside units for repairs.   Entropy ran rampant. Parents didn't know what to do with their children. Fear reigned. Common spaces closed. Neither tenants nor PMs were happy.   Then, in the…   Fall 2020 - Summer 2021: This was the boom period for apartments. PMs have solved for the new era, adopting new technologies and new strategies. They also re-open amenity spaces and in-unit maintenance.    Hey, foosball in the clubhouse is back. Apartment demand surges, and reputation scores go back up.   Late 2021: Apartment occupancy rates hit record highs. PMs again wrestle with on-site staffing shortages. Could ultra-low vacancy and still-robust leasing traffic put so much strain on property managers that reputation scores start to drop again?   Nope! Because in…   Early 2022: Reputation scores climb back up to new highs again. PMs once again adjust to the rapidly evolving climate, many leaning on early-to-mid phase adoption of centralization tech and management practices.   Mid - Late 2022: Apartment reputation scores inch back again. That's when consumers saw peak inflation—including renewal rent increases.    At the same time, demand (for all housing types, not just apartments) slowed down and you didn't see the high rent growth that you had. This puts more strain on PMs.   Inflation hit everyone, with big price hikes in property insurance, taxes, maintenance, turnover, labor, and utilities.   Early 2023: Apartment reputation scores are on the rise again, hitting new highs. Consumer inflation is cooling, while vacancy rates and leasing traffic return to more normal levels.   Some semblance of normalcy has finally returned.   At the same time, new tech adopted in the pandemic era proves to have long-term benefits to both tenants and managers.   In recent years, PMs have focused on resident satisfaction, so it's no coincidence that reputation scores keep improving.   Now today, as an investor, changes are that you have a low LOSS TO PURCHASE.   What's a “loss to purchase”. Your tenants are leaving to go buy something very often.    You, as an investor in either single-family rentals or condos or apartments - you can retain residents right now because it's so hard for them to go off and buy their own starter home.   Why's that? Well, it's not just the higher mortgage rates. It's that fact coupled with the fact that credit availability is still tough.    As you know, you need to have a lot of good documentation & income & assets to get a loan. That keeps your rent-paying tenant in place.   In 2005, we were in the opposite condition. Back then, tenants fled my units. I had a hard time retaining tenants in 2005. Why?    Because it was so easy to get a loan, you could just lie about everything on a mortgage application and no one even checked the accuracy. Bloated appraisal values even came flying in.   That's why my rental property tenants kept leaving. It seems like it was always to buy a first-time condo back in 2005.   Today, you can retain tenants. That's your upside of today's harder housing affordability and stringent lending requirements.    So, in this normalizing housing era where tenants have to live in your rental unit longer - because they have no alternative - you can find the properties most conducive to this strategy where thousands of other have created a quick account - at our marketplace: GREmarketplace.com   It's not like a big box store. It's more like an organic farmer's market. That's where the good stuff is. So, check back often for new inventory at GREmarketplace.com   You're listening to Episode 449 of the GRE Podcast… and of those 449, I think that two of them were quite good!   Haha!   Coming up shortly, 12 ways for you to raise rent and add value to your property.   If you get value from the show, please tell a friend about the show. I'd really appreciate it. Share it on your social media.   More straight ahead. I'm Keith Weinhold. You're listening to Get Rich Education.  

Zach Rubin is back on the podcast to share more details about how his time as a trader led him to success, but not at all in the way he imagined it would. Instead of learning how to pull cash out of thin air—as Zach describes his fantasy of the trading world—with successful thousand-dollar-a-day trades, he actually lost money. His losses led him to seek coaching from experienced traders, including Agnieszka. It was the powerful mind-shift methods that Agnieszka uses that led to Zach's comeback career.Zach credits his learning experience as a trader to his success as a business owner. Without learning to completely shift and reframe his mindset, he would never have developed the confidence to take the leap of faith to build the thriving business he has now. Zach's biggest advice to new traders is to treat the profession as an athlete. Train consistently and hire a renowned coach like Agnieszka Wood. Zach hopes that listeners interested in trading learn from their mistakes and hire a coach right away rather than waiting until they fail to ask for help. And for those who decide trading is not their life's passion, hopefully, his story of success provides inspiration. About Zach RubinZach Rubin is a successful entrepreneur, Architectural Designer, and Owner of Foundry House in Greater Atlanta. Zach discovered his passion for architecture while at Penn State University, where he excelled in drafting and architectural design. He continued his education at the Georgia Institute of Technology, graduating with a Masters from the College of Architecture.  Zach's interest in trading was sparked during the COVID-19 wave and he started trading the Nasdaq and S&P Futures. After many ups and downs on his trading journey and making an incredible leap in his personal growth, he was able to achieve his long awaited dream. —Contact Agnieszka Wood | Ahead Coach: Website: aheadcoach.comTwitter: @Ahead_CoachYouTube: @aheadcoachFacebook: Agnieszka WoodInstagram: ahead.coachLinkedIn: Agnieszka WoodContact Zach Rubin | Foundry House Design: Website: foundryhousedesign.comPinterest: @foundaryhousedesign--TranscriptAgnieszka 0:00 So today, my guest is Zach Rubin who you might remember from the very first episode of the Confidence in Trading podcast. Zach is a business owner, a husband and a father of two and a few weeks ago he shared with us the beginnings and the juicy details of his trading journey.After many ups and downs and making an incredible leap in his personal growth, he was able to achieve his long awaited dream. And today he came back to tell us the rest of his story. And I can tell you that this is going to be good! So, stay tuned! And if you haven't listened to the first episode yet, I strongly recommend you to do it, so you get the full picture!Agnieszka 0:56Hi, Zach. Welcome back!Zach  0:57 Hi, Agnieszka, thank you for having me.Agnieszka 0:59Last time we talked about how much work and effort you have put into making trading work for you. And how challenging it was especially on the emotional level. So, can you tell us how did your journey develop?Zach  1:13  I had a boss at one point. And we were driving to a retreat, which was a few hours away. And I just happened to be the one that was in the car with him. It was us two together, which was a bit of a, it was a good moment, right? Because I was able to kind of like, speak to somebody who was my superior in a confined space for a long time. And we got to the conversation of like, well, what do you want to do with kind of the, you know, what's your goals? What are your plans, and I kind of brought up to him, I said, "Well, I really wish I could have been, I really wish I could do architecture, you know, I mean, I just love construction and buildings." And I've worked in the construction fields. In fact, the company I was working for with this person, I was a facilities manager. So I was in charge of properties, and that required me to have a strong understanding of building systems and construction practices and whatnot, because I was constantly working alongside those people to to keep various properties around the country in operation. And I remember the boss, as he was talking, he said, "Well," he's like, "I'm sorry to tell you this Zach. But I think the boats, the boat has sailed for you on that." Because I was, you know, I'm in my late 30s have already gone to grad school. I didn't have a degree in any of this. But I had degrees that were associated with it just not the exact thing, right. So I kind of like, and this is something that I think I've had through my life anyway, when somebody tells me I can't do it, I suddenly get this gumption to say I'm gonna prove that person wrong. Right? It's just my nature. Agnieszka  2:29  So, so familiar. Zach  2:31  Yeah, so um, you know, I was kind of listening when I'm like it just like, I mean, it rang in my head for days that like, "I think the boat has sailed for you on this, I think the boat has sailed." I mean, it was like a montage of just like his face saying this to me over and over and over again. And it man did it wear on me. And shortly after that, I kind of made the decision to pursue a different career for a different company in, that would bring me closer to that goal. So I started applying to jobs to be an architectural designer, which you don't necessarily have to have an education in. But you have to have a skill set in. And because I had so much experience working in construction and everything else and had a graduate degree in design, industrial design, which is product design. I felt like, "Hmm, okay, let's take a chance." So I started applying to jobs that were for an architectural designer. And lo and behold, I ended up getting one and I interview really well. So it went really great. And I started working as a architectural designer for a company. And then I got furloughed because of COVID. And that's ultimately what kind of led me into the trading thing. But that experience is what sort of was my first foot into this into this arena. And then it wasn't until after I'd, I was coming off a furlough, I was looking for a new job about to take another architectural design job. And I get a call from an old boss who I'd worked with before in construction. And he's like, "Hey," he's like, "I need somebody to help me out, blah, blah, blah." And I'm like, "Look, I'm about to sign a contract to work for this other company." And he said, "Well," he's like, "the pay is not going to be as much, we're not going to be able to give you any of the benefits that this other company will. But you..." at the time I was trading. And he's, I said, he said, "but I'll let you have as much time as you want to do your trading just as long as you get the job done." And so I was like "Done, I'll take it," even though it like literally was 25,000, maybe 30,000 less in salary per year it was it was with a company I'd worked for in the past. So to some degree, I felt like I was moving, I was still I was falling backward, right? I wasn't progressing, I was moving backwards. But I took the risk because I wanted to continue trading. And then that position ultimately led me into the new opportunity of the partners there, that company decided that they wanted to create a new company to do interior design and cabinetry. And they said, We want to make you a partner .I was like "I'll take it, I'll do it." This was like the opportunity suddenly comes and this was right in January of last year. So this was right when we were still working together. But it was about the three quarter mark or so of our program together. And so it was like suddenly like oh my god, I have the possibility to be part owner in this new business. So I take it. Then one of the other partners, for the reason why he was a partner was because he had broken out, broken up with a partnership he had with another company that did architectural design. So now I said well, why don't we just do architectural design here in this company, since I have an interest in it and you have the experience for it. Let's just do it. So we started doing architectural design and I started learning how to put plans together and I already had the construction knowledge now it was just a matter of learning the software to do the actual, you know, architectural plans. So we started doing that. And about 10 months, or no not even, eight months into that partnership. Partnership with four people can be a little bit challenging and it definitely causes some friction and when everyone wants to be a leader, you know, it's not always going to work out. So one thing led to another and, and the decision was made that I would take a third of that business, the architectural component of that business and just take it off their hands, I created my own business with it, the amount of confidence that it took me for sure to decide in that moment, like, Okay, I'm going to leave the security of a job, I'm going to, I'm going to release my my shares of this partnership that, for all intents and purposes, was looking like it was going to be very successful. And I'm going to instead just do something that I'm not going to own 100% of, but there is no guarantee that I'm successful at this, and there's no going back. It's not like I can be like, oh, sorry, actually, can I get back into that partnership that ain't gonna happen. So I take the leap of faith, I start my own firm. And because of the network that I developed over the course of time, and the confidence that the newfound confidence that I had, and mindset, money, mindset, all of it, we just hit the ground running. And from... this is August of last year, until today, the company has brought in, I mean, hundreds of thousands in revenues, we've had over 30 customers, we've I've now I'm now designing people's houses that from scratch, like new construction, I mean, just you know, somebody calls me up, hey, we want to add on a piece of land, we want to build a house and I'm like, sure we can help you with that. So and you know, this is all from somebody that never went to architecture school, right and always wanted to and and honestly, like I said, previously, when I was in school, I wanted to go that path but didn't have the confidence to pursue it. So still, life has brought me back to this moment. And I honestly credit, the fact that I spent that time working on my mindset and my confidence because of trading. That ultimately is what resulted in this outcome. And for that, and I'm thankful and grateful for it, even if I never trade again.Agnieszka  7:24  That's a wonderful story. Thank you so much for sharing it, because it also shows how the universe has a plan, in a way,and kind of brings things onto your path. And all you need to do is just take it. Just take it and do it and you know, don't resist it. Sometimes it might be challenging, sometimes it might require confidence. But eventually if you do follow your your dream, because it was your dream at some point, right? You wanted to, you knew what you wanted to do. And there was not... trading wasn't as strong as that path. Right?Agnieszka  8:08  I remember when we started working. You were saying, "Yea, this is always what I always wanted to do."Zach  8:10  Yeah, exactly. Like if I was still trading today, I would possibly be still dreaming about being an architect and doing architectural design. Right. I mean, there's no doubt. So it's a, it is a remarkable thing of how it kind of worked out. And I don't think it was by accident. I think that this this ultimately happened because of the positions I put myself in because of the work that we did. And it you know, it's hindsight, they say "Hindsight is 20/20" but I think that you can look back on things and real and also make the realization that I would not be the person today capable of achieving that success. And literally getting to the place I always want it to be if it weren't for the steps that I took previously. And I think anyone is... I think this is possible for anybody, regardless of what, whether it's trading you want or something else, I think the important thing is, is to learn and know yourself. That's probably the number one thing even before you trade, try to spend time figuring out who you are, what you like, what drives you, what are your motivating factors, and not be afraid to pursue the things that maybe the boat has sailed on, or that you perceive the boat has sailed on. Because there's, there's no, that's only what somebody else may say, that's not necessarily the reality for you. You don't have to let it be the reality for you.Agnieszka  9:27  Yeah, yeah, totally. And that's, that's what I always call a strong "Why". You need to have a strong "Why." Why are you doing things? Why are they important to you. You have a vision. You have a mission in your life, because all those things will contribute to where you put your energy and effort and wherever you put your energy into that will give you the results. So after you went through this whole process, and you got through your emotional journey, how did the trading change for you?Zach  10:04  So, um… Agnieszka  10:07  Or I should say maybe how did trading change your life at that moment. What happened?Zach  10:12  What happened? Yeah, so what I came to realize, I think was that... At first it gave me confidence in who I am. It gave me a better grounding. In that kind of money mindset, the manifesting success type of thing. I worked on that a lot more I started to visualize and understand like, you know what, what's possible for me what's the future gonna hold. But ultimately, it resulted in me taking a major step away from trading. As much as I love the idea of trading, as much as I love the potential of what it has to offer to you. And the freedom that comes along with that, I slowly began to realize, while I took a break, like I should say, I first took a break more from a position of necessity, because if I continued down the path that I was just going to continue either revenge trading, or I was going to continue to, you know, just build this, this monster out of it, right? This thing that I'm constantly trying to overcome and really struggling to, to do so. And so I needed to take a break from it, because it just even through all the work that I've done, it just wasn't clicking as much as I wanted it to. So I take a take a step back. And through that break is really, I think, where I came to some new conclusions, which was that the work that I done working on my mindset, and all of that started to change my life outside of trading far more than it actually changed my life in trading. And that resulted in opportunity, new opportunities coming up in life and in business. And the way that I approached those opportunities changed because of this newfound sense of calm and this newfound sense of confidence, such that I was able to not only, I think, attract those opportunities, but I was able to capitalize on those capital opportunities. And now that I'm, I've not been trading now for, what, almost a year? Has it been that long? When did we Yeah,Agnieszka  12:14  Actually, you finished the program last year, end of January.Zach  12:18  End of January. Wow. So it's been over a year. Yeah, exactly. So, I ended up, so I put trading on pause, which was supposed to be a temporary pause and it turned into a more permanent pause. Partially because the rest of life started to improve, other than I had new, a new job opportunities, partnership opportunities with businesses that I was involved in, and then those partnership opportunities ultimately turned into me starting my own business, and ultimately creating the exact life I wanted. It just didn't involve trading. So who knew, right? And, you know, surprise, I ended up not becoming a trader. Now, I still carry the dream inside of me, if I'm being honest with you, I still think about trading periodically. I actually, at some point in the last year, I invested in a different trading platform that was making use of different type of chart style was a few $100. You know, I gave it a shot because I was like, kind of trying to keep the dream alive. The reality is, though, is that because of all these other successes outside of trading, my life has gotten so busy and so full that trading is become something that is almost unrealistic at this point. It's funny, because I'm like, my Work calendar, I still block out an hour and a half every morning from nine from nine o'clock till 10:30 for trading, it still says trading and every day I see a pop up on my calendar, like traded reading time. But I don't I don't trade because I have so much going on with all of these other businesses that I'm working on. And the success that I'm seeing in these areas is so rewarding to me, possibly more rewarding the trading ever would have been even though trading might have certainly how to become truly successful at it would have no doubt awarded me far more income. I mean, I'm still doing better than I ever have. But I mean compared to trading, which has massive upside potential. It's it's not even a comparison. But the value that I'm getting from the businesses that I own, and the the confidence that I'm building in myself, because I'm not only owning my own company and doing incredible work for the customers that I have and the product that we create. It's fulfilled me in ways that I think trading, I don't know the trading ever would have because at the end of the day, yes, being good trader will give you a lot of confidence and a lot of gratification, especially when you get to spend that money and drive around in your Lambo. But it's like it's the difference between being really good at something and being proud of that versus creating something that's much bigger than yourself that maybe has the potential to live beyond you. And I think that's where I'm at right now in life is I got this business, we do architectural design for customers, and it's related to the industry that I was had started in years ago, but have kind of worked my way into this new place and have a business now that is you know, doing doing incredible and is awarded me not only the freedom that I wanted, I mean to some extent I mean, like I spend an hour and a half working a day and then spend the rest of the day spending my money. It's more so that I have the freedom that I don't have a boss. I don't have a... if I want to take a vacation, I can take as much time as I want to as long as the work is still getting done. So, I, I've been able to capture a lot of these things that I think I always wanted. And I think that this experience of trading, struggling to learn how to trade working through my mindset and my confidence, and then coming out the other side, only to realize that maybe trading isn't exactly what I want to do with my life has still created the life that I ultimately wanted. And it's a remarkable thing.Agnieszka  15:45  Congratulations, I'm really so happy to hear that. And you know, I exactly remember the moment when it all started to kind of show itself in your life, all these opportunities, and the moment where you came and you said, this is incredible. And, you know, I got this offer to become a partner, and then things just started to roll from there, and you're so much more grounded and confident to actually go for it. And you know, not question it, but just take what the universe was giving you. Zach  16:21  When you you know, the, a lot of the work that we did together ultimately helped me to learn how to manifest the future I wanted the life I wanted. And trading is sort of a means to an end to some degree, it's a, it's a, something that you do to be able to make a ton of money so that then you can enjoy life, right? It's one of the it's like a step on the path to your actual goal, which is to gain freedom or financial wealth, or private jet or whatever. But most people who I see who end up trading, ultimately don't do it for the rest of their lives. They do it for a part of their life, maybe they build a bunch of capital, but they almost always either invest that money wisely, create passive streams of income, buy businesses that they operate, and it ultimately becomes a means to an end. It's rare that you find somebody who gets into trading and it becomes their lifestyle, their life and their business. And that's all they do. You know, there are definitely people like that and all the power to them, if you can, you know, I always equated trading to like, it's as if there's a stream of money that's floating above your head in this cloud. And if you're good enough at it, you can just reach up and just grab stacks of cash, just like just grabbing stacks of cash. It's unbelievable. That was the thing that ultimately attracted me to it. I used to say that all the time, like it's magic. It's like money magic, right? And that's great. But the fulfillment end of it, you know, yeah, it's you and the computer. And I think for me now, like I have this business, I've got, now, ambitions that are like, wow, what if I create this business and open up different cities, and I'm able to start building a much bigger brand. I mean, I just the other day bought the web address for my business for $2,000. I never thought I would buy a website, even my wife is like you spent how much on what? On like, something you can't even hold. And I'm like, Yeah, I know, it sounds crazy. But, and like, the me a year and a half ago, if you said like Zach, a year and a half from now you're gonna spend two grand on a URL, I'd be like, there's no way, like, who makes a decision like that? And now I'm doing it with like, not only like, this is an obvious no brainer, because this is how I, I'm going to, you know, launch myself into this new direction with this business to turn it more into a brand and more into a, into a larger company that that maybe one day I can sell for, you know, 10 or $20 million, maybe, I mean, that's sort of, that's where my head's at now. Whereas before, it was just, you got to learn how to trade so you can make three grand a day or whatever. And now it's like, you know, these new horizons that have I've never thought of before, and it's a different experience, but I'm so grateful for the fact that I got involved in trading, not only to learn about markets and learn about trading is just a as a skill set. And as a technical element of it, it's been, it's been educational in so many other ways. But also, more so really, that mindset, self control, discipline, all of that is connected, you know, and it's affected me not only in the sense of, of my career and business and all that but it's affected me in my health, I've changed the food I eat, I have more confidence in and more confidence in my level of discipline that I can attain for myself. And you know, I mean, I'm, I've lost weight, I've increased my salary I've been, I'm building a machine now like a business that has the potential to grow and expand for the future. My family life is better, you know, I'm able to work from home all the time now. So I get to see my kids multiple times a day, but sometimes it's too much because they're, they're five and two. So, you know, once I see them, I can't like pry them off me so I can get back to work. But I get to be with them a lot. And I don't have to go into an office anymore. And this is all tremendous. You know, this is I have the life I want because of trading, but ironically, it did not include trading. So.Agnieszka  20:07  Yes, that is wonderful. That's pretty amazing that you actually, you can say you achieved that with trading, but not with the money you made from trading.Zach  20:20  So in a way it still was a means to an end. It just wasn't the end I had in mind. So I think it's important, I think, as people listening to this, is, first, do your best to try to be a good trader, right? Do do take all those steps because I wouldn't have what I have, if I didn't go through all the steps, right? I wouldn't, I wouldn't be where I am, had I given up on trading, I'd probably be still working a nine to five in some office somewhere with a boss who I couldn't stand and the freedom I didn't have, right. So I'm glad that I went through that process. And, you know, I invested a lot into it, not only the money that I ultimately lost in the market, but the money I spent on great coaches and, and books and things to read. And that was all part of the part of the plan in a way, you know, and it ultimately got me to where I am now. So I recommend that you still focus on that. But most of all, focus on your mindset. Because even if trading doesn't work out, your mindset is something that changes, the rest changes you for the rest of your life. And having that experience will is fundamental, it will fundamentally change who you are and how you interact and the people you surround yourself with and, and that ultimately relates to the kind of success that you'll have, whether it's in trading or not. So pursue it. Regardless, just be careful. Don't put all your eggs in one basket, be willing. And I think also you mentioned this, be willing to see the trading might not be for you. But still, don't be depressed about it still see the value. And this took me some time to kind of like get here to still see the value of that experience. Because it's very easy to fall into that despair, once you make that final decision. Like, okay, I'm putting down the, I'm putting it down, I'm not trading anymore, you will feel that overwhelming wave of I am a complete failure. I've wasted how much money you know, and you start doing the math it becomes depressing. But just know, yeah, it's not the end of the story. You know, you can continue on and the skills and mindset, you know, that you've now developed over the course of this has truthfully changed your capability for success.Agnieszka  22:20  So in a way it is, it is realizing your dream, not necessarily a dream to trade, which again, not many people have a dream to trade, but they just want to realize their dream. But then somehow it gets all mixed up into “my dream is to make money.” That's where it goes south.Zach  22:37  There was a moment when... I want to explain what it felt like to finally make it to the to the point of success, because this is I think the part that keeps people's dreams fueled, right in the same way that sometimes some of the content on YouTube regarding trading, sometimes alludes to. There was a moment where you know that like when you're like a the the idea, the image I get in my head is like when you're a kid and you're looking through the glass window of a storefront and you see maybe it's a toy, or, you know, cakes and pastries or something that you just can't you want to want to have. Yeah, but maybe you're you're you don't have the money, you don't have, you know, the means whatever, for whatever reason, you can't access what's on the other side of the glass. And there was a moment when, you know, my wife and I were sitting down at night, and it was after we'd created the business and we started seeing some initial success in the first few months. Like in the first three months, I think we already had, you know, 15 projects or something. And we'd already collected $100,000 or something and just a few months and it was just like wow, like this is incredible. And we were actually paying ourselves like salaries that were greater than ever before and, and doing all that and I remember looking at my wife and I said it just like struck me and it just I just said to her, I said "I'm on the other side of the glass." I said "that's what I feel like I'm on the other side of the glass for the first time right I'm there, I'm there. I've got it in my hands like the freedom that I always wanted. The ownership of my own means of resources is now there. I have it all, right? I've gotten there, I've got I've made it to the other side of the glass." And I mean, I started crying for us, because I was just like, oh my god, like, I've been wanting this for so long for so many years. And, and here I am, you know, and that feeling, it just washes over you and you just feel like, wow, there it is that, you know, all of those years of struggling all those years of uncertainty, they're finally here. So keep that in your mind. Agnieszka  24:39  You gave me goosebumps.Zach  24:42  Yeah, I know, well, it's powerful. Because it's, we all have that I think we all have those things in life that we want to, that we dream about, whether it's trading or not, there's all this dream of what life could be. That's the dream is always seemingly on the other side of the glass. But one day, you do make it there. If you play your cards, right, and you work on yourself in the right ways, and you keep pursuing the opportunities as they come, you'll get there. And when you do, you'll find yourself on the other side of the glass. And the feeling is remarkable. And it doesn't mean that everything becomes easy all at once. In fact, maybe your stresses are greater and you've got more responsibilities. Now I've got mouths to feed, right? I've got employees who are relying on me to continue the business and to grow it so that they can also see success in their lives. And that's a tremendous amount more, you know, stress and things to worry about and concerns. But I'm so grateful for, for the fact that I'm here, able to do what I'm doing and to have to have access to those things that I've created.Agnieszka  25:43  Tell me. Tell me with all the responsibility that you have now do you have more sleepless nights than when you had when the trading wasn't working out?Zach  25:52 Great question. So in addition to working on mindset, and other things, I've also worked on my health and my sleeping abilities and stuff, you know, my wife is really has a lot of she has a lot of responsibility on this for me, because she pushes me, it's almost like I have a full time coach as a wife, because she's constantly getting me to focus on on on these other things and constantly pushing me toward getting new coaching. Like I'm currently with a coach right now for fitness and nutrition. Like and, you know, I just, I think part of it too, is because of all the experiences I've had working with you and other coaches, it's made me realize, like, there's nothing better than having a good mentor and a good coach to work with on anything that you might be tackling. And so yeah, so I'm working through that. And so I'm sleeping better, maybe, maybe not so much because I have less stress, I think I actually probably have more stress in my life, different kinds of stress. But I'm sleeping better because I've worked on those things worked on habits and I've also worked on or I should say, having, knowing that I've attained those things that I've wanted to do already gives me some peace, right to know that like, Okay, now I've kinda like I've gotten onto the track I've always wanted to be on now it's just the journey, and enjoy that ride and keep going forward and see where it takes you. The mindset work is everything, you know, it really is because you cannot be successful without adjusting your mind. It's, it's everything, it's the beginning and end of every moment is your, is in your mind. And you know, and your emotions are very heavily connected to that as well. I think that trading was a much more emotional thing for me than my current businesses. I don't have that kind of same emotional roller coaster, though I do have moments and days where I've got a really difficult customer or we've got a deadline that we're about to miss and I feel really bad about it. And you know, or if we get sometimes we get comments back from the permit offices about our plans, and I feel a little bit like shattered because it's like, man, like I'm trying to sell that we've got really good plans that are going to, you know, be very thorough and good. And to still get comments back from a permit office. It's like kind of like, it's like getting a test paper back from a school teacher and it's got a big, like, D-minus on it, you're like, gosh, you know, no, they're supposed to believe that I'm an A+ student, not a D- student. Right. So there's a little bit of that, but it's not the same as the emotional rollercoaster of trading because trading is just these ups and downs. And you know, and the other thing and we didn't really talk about this and and maybe one day in the future, but you know, the emotional side of it that resulted in some serious darkness, right and some serious like self doubt. And that's the part where looking back on it. I think it makes perfect sense that trading is maybe not right for me, like I don't know that I had the right mentality for it or the sensibility for it. But I do, I do have the right mentality and sensibility for what I'm doing right now. Like, like in you know, in spades, right? I mean, I've got the level of trust that I can build with people when I'm first talking about their homes and about the ideas that I have about their struck the structure or whatever. I know that a lot of why I'm being successful here is not just because of the network I've created, but also because of the, of my sales ability, right? My ability to kind of like meet people where they're at and speak to them about their home and not only give them ideas that they never would have thought of but also give them a confidence that Oh, this guy knows what He's talking about and he's, I'm gonna be safe with him. You know, as I joked one time with one of the contractors I work with, I'm like, I must have a trustworthy face because people people keep wanting to buy from me. But it's it's true, it goes a long way to be able to do that. And I wouldn't have that, that I wouldn't have that opportunity to use those sides of myself. If I was just sitting behind a trading computer all day.Agnieszka  29:37  The face wouldn't help there, no matter how friendly.Zach  29:40  No, yeah, so I think it's really, I'm really grateful for where I'm at now. And even if, even though I still, I mean, even still, there's still this little shred of hope that maybe one day I'll get back.Agnieszka  29:55  So, what is that little hope? Like? Hope for what? That you will find time or that you will make it work, what is it? Because you know, that part when you stop trading and you say, "Oh, I invested it." So, because that's what a lot of people say, "I invested so much money, I cannot stop now." But if you think about it like, you throw it away-that's one thing. But if you think "I have learned all these things, so I didn't really waste it. Right now I'm just taking the lessons with me." So, what is that hope?Zach  30:24  Yeah. So, well, first off, you were talking about the gamblers dilemma, right, which is like you've put so much you've invested so much money in something so much time and energy and effort that you feel like you can't, you cannot give it up now because like you've just, to throw it all away right? So, that's where that initial wave of like, dissatisfaction and disappointment and anger really comes into play. But it's a, I think, for me, it's also like, there's an element of I don't like to leave a stone unturned. Like I this is something I went out and tried to do, and I still want to be successful at it, you know, there's a little bit of that it's almost like a self-contest. But it's also because there is a, there is a glamour to that lifestyle that, like, even owning my own business and being successful as I am, I just am not... you don't get the same kind of level of like, "Oh, I have the ability to magically pull money out of the air, like whenever I want it." I mean, you know, my former coach, who I worked with prior to you, he still does it nice. Occasionally we'll see a clip of him doing something online on YouTube. And I'll just see, like, you know, he's like, you know, even sometimes I just see the title on his on the thumbnail, and it's like, $6,300 in the first 18 minutes. And it's just like, that's crazy, you know, that's so much money. And like, so that still works on me a little bit. But you know, at some level, that's a little like the Pavlovian dog, right? It's like a little bit of the bell ringing in me, like my mouth starting to drool, right? Like, that's really what's happening there is that I'm seeing this, somebody who's like, able to has that ability to just manifest this money right out of thin air. And it's magical. And there's part of me that still like is attracted to that. But I think a lot of it is that kind of psychological thing where you're just like, "Man, wouldn't it be amazing if I could just, you know, drill up some money like that, and go buy a brand new car." I mean, you know, the business I have now as much as I love it, and it's great. It's definitely a longer trajectory. I mean, I'm making a good living and but it's, it's not like we're not talking $6,000 a day, you know, that's, that's a different thing. And maybe one day, if I build this machine to some crazy thing, I've got multiple cities I'm doing maybe I've captured the whole Southeast, and doing plans in multiple states, I've got partners in various cities, maybe then I sell it for millions of dollars, right? I kind of mentioned that before. Great, that would be that would be awesome. If I can do that, then awesome. And that's sort of where my focus is now on it. But um, you know, there's still something magical about just being able to reach up and grab money out of thin air, right, like right through the computer screen. You know?Agnieszka  32:56  I sometimes wish that there was no videos like that. Yeah, you know that because it really creates such a wrong picture of what trading is, and brings a lot of people into trouble. And I always see, you know, coaching people as urgency because they have those dreams that they want to achieve, and then take their money... and they take their money and they put it into an account and then they lose it. And then now they're further from the dream that there were even before. And that's where I feel so much urgency of, you know, helping them.Zach  33:34  You know, when, when I remember, I was sitting in the car, and I sent you a voice message because I traded that day. And it was after our work together. And I had... it was like, I was doing pretty good for a couple weeks or something or maybe a week and a half, and then I had one real bad day where I just blew up my account. I was it was all simulated, but it was still I think I blew up my trading, you know, the gauntlet thing, right? And I send you a voice message and I was like, you know, man, like I don't know, this is so frustrating, whatever. And you, your response to me was, I don't remember exactly what you said. But it was something like take a break. It's okay, you know, and you gave me permission in a lot of ways to like, let it go for a little bit, I didn't realize at that moment that I was really letting it go for a much longer period of time. And, you know, like I said, Since then I've gotten back and I did a little bit more sim-trading, I had a new platform I was trying to get working and stuff. But, you know, as I guess, got busier and busier with the business, it became less and less of a reality to keep focusing on it, you know, and at some point, I just the stuff for the business became so big and important for me to focus on that I just really don't have time to trade is where I'm at now, but you know, that you gave me not only confidence through the trading course, but you also gave me confidence to to let go of it too, which was, maybe the more important part, you know, and so to what you're speaking to, that, you know, about helping people trade and stuff, part of what you're, you're doing, as well as helping people to realize that it may not be for you. But that doesn't mean it's the end of the world, you know, that doesn't mean that it's that all is lost, that you're you have the ability to take these skills and whatnot and transition it into something else. And that's possibly more important than just teaching somebody to become a successful trader. Because the reality is, I mean, being a successful trader is almost akin to being a professional athlete like that, you know, 99% of people fail at being a professional athlete. And most because they're not even capable of it, at least with sports, you kind of recognize if you're out of shape, or, you know, if you're only five foot three, and you wanna play basketball, it ain't gonna happen. But, you know, if you're a, you know, with trading, it's a little bit harder to see that because you it seemingly, anybody can do it. But the reality is, there's I think a very narrow spectrum of human beings that, where trading comes naturally and an even when the that's a very narrow spectrum, and maybe a slightly wider spectrum of people that if they do the right work, they can become good at it, you know?Agnieszka  35:59  That's a great metaphor by comparison, by the way, because when you want to become a professional athlete, you will definitely get a coach, right? People get into trading, and they think they can do it on their own. Or maybe they will read a few books and watch some YouTube videos, and then they become a professional trader. Isn't that interesting?Zach  36:18  Yeah, I know. And in fact, look at thinking back on it. I am shocked at how like silly it is to even believe and that I fell for that. Right. I mean, it's like, if there's anything I failed, that it was not seeing the forest for the trees in that way. But I'm still grateful for the experience. And, you know, sometimes you have to learn those lessons the hard way, but I don't, again, I don't consider any of my time trading as wastefulness. Like, yes, it was a lot of money. I mean, there was a lot of money lost 10 plus maybe 15 plus thousand dollars. And that's that was a lot for me at the time, especially. But it's, it was well worth the education, it was well worth the mindset shifts, and I wouldn't be where I am today, if it weren't for that. So it's, you know, it's all it's all good. Agnieszka  36:57Thank you so much Zach. I hope that showing that there can be many different ways that trading contributes to your life, was beneficial to all of you who are listening and maybe even release some pressure that many of you might feel every day at the trading desk.”Zach  37:15Sort of imagine what it must be like from your perspective, because like, obviously, we we chat here and there, but not often, maybe not as often as we should. It's sort of like when you when you see a relative, like a child who's growing up and then like you see them a few years later, like, Oh my God, you've turned into a man, you know, it's sort of the same sort of the same thing. Like, you know, that you've kind of gotten like these snapshots of my success story. And yeah, it's pretty cool. And I'm grateful to have the opportunity to share that with with others just because I you know, I'm proud of it. But also, I know what it felt like to be there on the other side, the other side of the glass, you know, and it makes me, I know that I always was fueled by those kinds of inspirational things, you know, and even though I'm not even where I really want to be eventually…Agnieszka  38:02  You are an inspiration already. Zach  38:04Yes, exactly. And even an inspiration to myself because there's some days that I look at what what what's how this is all formed in just a short amount of time and I'm, I find it remarkable. So, if I find it remarkable, maybe others do too.Agnieszka  38:16  Well, that brings us to the end of this episode. Thank you so much Zach, for joining us. Zach  38:22It's been a pleasure speaking to you again and spending so much time with you. I cherish it. So, thank you.Agnieszka  38:28 Thank you so much for listening to the Confidence in Trading Podcast. If you enjoyed my show, please rate and review it on Apple podcasts. And be sure to subscribe, so you can come back for a real conversation in the next episode. Until then, this is Agnieszka Wood from Ahead Coach. And don't forget you too can realize your dream without losing yourself and your confidence in the process. Contact Agnieszka Wood | Ahead Coach: Website: aheadcoach.comTwitter: @Ahead_CoachYouTube: @aheadcoachFacebook: Agnieszka WoodInstagram: ahead.coachLinkedIn: Agnieszka WoodYou can email me at launchyourlife@aheadcoach.com

The premise for this show began when Corey O Flanagan of SONGFACTS Podcast stated "When I think of music at strip clubs, I think of two different eras (of music), the 80s and early 2000s hip-hop is that still the case?" Out of that premise came this very fun interview. Pretty impressive for a Non-Strip Club Industry guy to come up with that idea from his limited time in Strip Clubs as a customer. Ah, the power of edibles!!! Lol! We discuss the rise of Hip-Hop from the early 90s into the mainstream and the coordinating decline of RockNRoll as the primary musical genre from the late 90s to its place in present-day pop culture. We discuss the various music formats at clubs and why the formats have changed, and Danny takes a STAND against "Spotify Djs"! We talk about how to build trust with your entertainers to play music that works for everyone. We debate the longevity of the music from 2010 to now having true longevity that will still stand up 20, 30, and 40 years from now. Did you know that Motley Crue's "Girls, Girls, Girls" can get a Pavlovian response from entertainers to sell in many Strip Clubs? Where do songs like Jay-Z's "I Just Wanna Love U (Give It 2 Me)" and NIN's "Closer" stand in the Strip Club Annals? And HOW did the "Mission Impossible Theme" come into this conversation??? We also talk about the Strip Club MUSIC Hall Of Fame that Danny & I created! The inaugural class of 2023: Motley Crue Guns N' Roses Def Leppard Nine Inch Nails Prince NOW ACCEPTING Ballots for the CLASS of '24! Go to www.stripclubhof.com to cast your vote!!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The premise for this show began when Corey O Flanagan of SONGFACTS Podcast stated "When I think of music at strip clubs, I think of two different eras (of music), the 80s and early 2000s hip-hop is that still the case?" Out of that premise came this very fun interview. Pretty impressive for a Non-Strip Club Industry guy to come up with that idea from his limited time in Strip Clubs as a customer. Ah, the power of edibles!!! Lol! We discuss the rise of Hip-Hop from the early 90s into the mainstream and the coordinating decline of RockNRoll as the primary musical genre from the late 90s to its place in present-day pop culture. We discuss the various music formats at clubs and why the formats have changed, and Danny takes a STAND against "Spotify Djs"! We talk about how to build trust with your entertainers to play music that works for everyone. We debate the longevity of the music from 2010 to now having true longevity that will still stand up 20, 30, and 40 years from now. Did you know that Motley Crue's "Girls, Girls, Girls" can get a Pavlovian response from entertainers to sell in many Strip Clubs? Where do songs like Jay-Z's "I Just Wanna Love U (Give It 2 Me)" and NIN's "Closer" stand in the Strip Club Annals? And HOW did the "Mission Impossible Theme" come into this conversation??? We also talk about the Strip Club MUSIC Hall Of Fame that Danny & I created! The inaugural class of 2023: Motley Crue Guns N' Roses Def Leppard Nine Inch Nails Prince NOW ACCEPTING Ballots for the CLASS of '24! Go to www.stripclubhof.com to cast your vote!!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Recent increases in the Fed's balance sheet may not have the same impact on money supply, growth and equities as in previous cycles.----- Transcript -----Welcome to Thoughts on the Market. I'm Mike Wilson, Chief Investment Officer and Chief U.S. Equity Strategist for Morgan Stanley. Along with my colleagues, bringing you a variety of perspectives, I'll be talking about the latest trends in the financial marketplace. It's Monday, April 3rd at 11:30 a.m. in New York. So let's get after it. Over the past month, market participants have been focused on how the government will deal with the stress in the banking system and whether the economy can withstand this latest shock. After a rough couple of weeks, especially for regional banks, the major indices appear to be shrugging off these risks. Many are interpreting the sharp increase in bank reserves as another form of quantitative easing and are exhibiting the Pavlovian response that such programs are always good for equity prices. As we discussed in prior podcasts, we do not think that's the right interpretation of this latest increase in the Fed's balance sheet. In our view, all bank reserves are not created equal. True money supply as a function of reserves and the velocity of money which is difficult to measure in real time. As a comparison, inflation did not appear after the first wave of quantitative easing used during the great financial crisis because the velocity of money simultaneously collapsed. This was despite the fact that the percentage increase in the Fed's balance sheet dwarfed what we experienced during COVID. The primary difference was that the increase in reserves during the great financial crisis was simply filling holes left on bank balance sheets from the housing crisis. Therefore, the increase in reserves did not lead to a material increase in true money supply in the real economy. In contrast, during COVID, the increase in reserves are pushed directly into the economy via stimulus checks, PPP loans and other programs to keep the economy from shutting down. However, these fiscal programs were overdone and the result was money supply moved sharply higher because the velocity of money remained stable and even increased slightly. During this latest increase in Fed balance sheet reserves, the total liabilities in the US banking system have continued to fall. This suggests to us that the velocity of money is falling quite rapidly, more than offsetting the increase in bank reserves. In fact, these bank liabilities are falling at a rate of 7% year-over-year, the biggest decline in more than 60 years. Even during the Great Financial Crisis, money supply growth never went into negative territory. The kind of contraction we are witnessing today suggests this is not anything like the QE programs experienced during COVID or the 2009 to 2013 period. Secondarily, it also means that both economic and earnings growth are likely to remain under pressure until money supply growth reverses. This leads me to the second part of this podcast. Year to date, major U.S. stock indices have performed well, led by technology heavy NASDAQ. This is partially due to the snap back from such poor performance last year, led by the NASDAQ. But it's also the view that unlevered, high quality growth stocks are immune from the potential oncoming credit crunch. It's important to note that the rally to date in U.S. stocks has been very narrow, with just eight stocks accounting for 80% of the entire returns in the NASDAQ 100. Meanwhile, only ten stocks have accounted for 95% of the entire returns in the S&P 500, with all ten of those stocks being technology-related businesses. Such an erroneous performance is known as bad breadth, and it typically doesn't bode well for future prices. The counterargument is that technology already went through its own recession last year and it's taken its medicine now with respect to cost reductions and layoffs. Therefore, these stocks can continue to recover and carry the overall market, given their size. We would caution on such conclusions, given the increased risk of a credit crunch that suggests the risk of a broader economic recession is far from extinguished. Recessions are bad for technology companies, which are generally pro cyclical businesses. Instead, we continue to prefer more defensive sectors like consumer staples and health care.Thanks for listening. If you enjoy Thoughts on the Market, please take a moment to rate and review us on the Apple Podcast app. It helps more people to find the show.

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The Federal Reserve will be publishing the minutes of the last meeting, which raised rates by 0.75 percentage points in accordance with Fed Chair Powell's relentless ‘hike, hike, hike' tactic. There are signs that some members of the FOMC are questioning this Pavlovian policy, with comments hinting at a slowing in the pace of tightening.

In this episode, Jerry Bradshaw discusses: How to get fluency in your outing with reward, not punishment. Beginning with the end in mind in your training. Training with e-collars and your dog. Command chains, variable reward, and understanding Pavlovian conditioning.    Key Takeaways: You will not get fluency in your outing until you understand that repetition in out training with rewarding the dog for outing is what is going to get that fluency. There are complications when importing an out command from an object, such as a toy, to fighting a man. Not every e-collar is the same, and not every e-collar is correct for every dog. You want the dog to think there is an obedience command after the release. The dog will be in a hurry to get into that obedience command because that is where the reward will happen.    "One word cannot mean two different actions to a dog. He cannot always read the context in your intentions, so you must give him a command that is going to be meaningful to him." — Jerry Bradshaw   Get Jerry's book Controlled Aggression on Amazon.com   Contact Jerry: Website: controlledaggressionpodcast.com Email: JBradshaw@TarheelCanine.com Tarheel Canine Training: www.tarheelcanine.com Youtube: tarheelcanine Twitter: @tarheelcanine Instagram: @tarheelk9 Facebook: TarheelCanineTraining Protection Sports Website: psak9-as.org Patreon: patreon.com/controlledaggression Slideshare: Tarheel Canine Calendly: https://calendly.com/tarheelcanine  Tarheel Canine Seminars: https://streetreadyk9.com/      Sponsors:  ALM K9 Equipment: almk9equipment.com PSA & American Schutzhund: psak9-as.org Tarheel Canine: tarheelcanine.com Superior Canine Website: https://superiorcanine.ca/  Aaron's Superior Canine Email: aaron@superiorcanine.ca  Superior Canine Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/superiorcanineinc  Superior Canine Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/superiorcanineinc/    Train Hard, train smart, be safe.   Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie   Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

  Time to take a break from the ol’ Ludwig Van and join us at the Korova Milkbar for a trip into the near dystopian future of A Clockwork Orange. From our Pavlovian responses, to patient care and British Literature, we’ll slooshy what Kubrick’s film has to offer.    Become a Patron!   REQUIRED READING A […]

This week, Cy has an absolute meltdown while trying to record and Chad recalls working with Mitch Hedberg. The official Middle of Somewhere Patreon page is finally here! Follow this link to go sign up, check out some of the fun free stuff we already have posted, and keep an eye out for the first Patreon-exclusive episodes coming in May! --- Follow us on Instagram & Twitter! Chad Daniels (@ThatChadDaniels) is a Dad, Comedian, and pancake lover. With over 750 million streams of his 5 albums to date, his audio plays are in the 99th percentile in comedy and music on Pandora alone, averaging over 1MM per week. Chad's previous album, Footprints on the Moon was the most streamed comedy album of 2017, and he has 6 late-night appearances and a Comedy Central Half Hour under his belt. Cy Amundson (@CyAmundson) With appearances on Conan, Adam Devine's House Party, and Comedy Central's This is Not Happening, Cy Amundson is fast-proving himself in the world of standup comedy. After cutting his teeth at Acme Comedy Company in Minneapolis, has since appeared on Family Guy and American Dad and a host on ESPN's SportsCenter on Snapchat. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices