Autistic Licence

We are delighted to share with you our guest conversation with Nikita. Nikita is a trainee clinical psychologist with a special interest in neuropsychology.   Together we have a fascinating discussion about adult diagnosis and how Nikita has woven this into her self-understanding and relationships. She contrasts how this has been in her personal and in her professional life.  We also speak about dyscalculia and burnout. Oh, and joy and the future.

Join us for another wonderful guest conversation, this time with Dawn. Dawn generously shares with us about her experiences and challenges in relation to work, mental health and being different to others.   We talk about the generational grief and loss associated with late diagnosis. We speak about common expectations around socialising, learning and communication which can zap our energy and lead to struggle. We go on to envision some aspects of autistic community, representation and culture. We have deliberately not edited out the beginning and ending of our recording in case anyone is considering joining us for a conversation as this might help demystify the process.  As ever, we welcome your comments and feedback at autisticlicence@gmail.com

There's a bit of silliness at the beginning of this episode. We debated cutting it out, maybe due to the vestiges of internalised ableism but we decided to keep it in the interests of authenticity. It's fully possible to be "silly" and childlike right alongside having the capacity for psychological depth and vulnerable conversations. We move from "here and now" chat into speaking about tears and other emotional expressions such as anger, fear, joy and sadness. We also reflect on the possibility of heightened emotional affect related to times of seasonal transition. We invite further conversation and connection about the possibility of forming groups for autistic people. If you would like to discuss this or if you have any other comments or feedback to share we'd love to hear from you - autisticlicence@gmail.com

Trigger warning: This episode includes references to neglect and developmental trauma which some listeners may find upsetting.  It's been a while since we recorded together! In this episode we expand on our discussion about grief. Leo reflects on the loss of Woody, three months on. We then move into exploring other feelings such as disappointment and pride. We speak about the conditional meanings of these feelings in relation to other people. We contrast this with the idea of unconditional love and acceptance and wonder about how this might feel and the significance of it, particularly in light of being autistic. Molly has been at the vet's and joins us for the last 10 minutes.

Trigger warning for mention of death, loss and grief. If you have particular sensitivities around these subjects, please consider carefully whether and / or when you might listen to this episode.  Leo's dog, Woody, died just before Christmas.  This episode was recorded in December and the "previous" episode we mention at the beginning was "Furry Friends & Existentialism". We speak about our experiences of bereavement and grief. We talk about navigating the end of life and expand this to speak about other endings, planned and otherwise.   Leo shares some treasured memories of his unique connection with Woody. We wonder about specific aspects of grief from (our) Autistic perspectives, bringing in differences in attunement, attachment and communication. Your comments and feedback are always most welcome.

This is a short chat we had following our guest conversation with Elisabeth. In it we further develop our thoughts and reflections about self compassion. We also contemplate our identities within the queer community, recognising that we have much more personal "work" to do in this area.  Obviously it's vulnerable to put something like this out into the world ... however we do so for two reasons. Firstly, we want to honour how inspirational we found our conversation with Elisabeth and secondly, we wonder whether other people might be thinking in similar ways and feel less alone by hearing us. Your comments and feedback are always most welcome.

We have a treat for you today - our guest conversation with Elisabeth.

In this episode we meet Catherine, one of our listeners from the USA. Catherine shares with us about her deep dive into autistic identity. We discuss some of our experiences throughout our life spans relating to others in education and group settings. We notice ways in which we adapted that don't feel so necessary any longer. Catherine also comes up with the phrase "social dyspraxia" which we agree is a wonderful descriptor and summary of much of our exploration. The conversation ends with some beautiful autistic "show and tell" between Leo and Catherine. We hope you enjoy and welcome your feedback.

In this episode we speak with Daniel, one of our listeners who responded to our invitation to join us for a guest conversation. We speak about Daniel's ongoing process of coming to know himself as autistic. We then branch into discussing therapy with AuDHD people, including an exploration of the role artificial intelligence (AI) might play in this. Daniel introduces us to his concept of "Grand Cycles" and does a fantastic job of describing aphantasia from the inside out. We absolutely loved meeting Daniel. Daniel is happy to be contacted at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielzp/ We hope you enjoy and welcome your feedback.

In this episode we reflect on the new calendar year and whether this has significance for us. We then open up a long discussion about the process of "middle age". Leo shares some of his identity shifts and pillars which have become clearer and more robust over the past decade. Siana reflects on the significance of readiness and of having a template of sorts which has enabled her to enter and navigate this stage of life in a different way. We speak about themes of hope, expectation, change and growth, and weave in some therapeutic insights along the way. We hope you enjoy this episode and, as always, your comments and reflections are welcome at autisticlicence@gmail.com

Cadbury has discontinued Festive Friends biscuits

TRIGGER WARNING This episode contains discussions about death, which may be triggering for some listeners. Please listen with care and prioritise your well-being. Leo's dogs join us for this episode and we begin by chatting about our pets. Siana then talks a bit about seasonal sensitivities. We move into speaking about aspects of the transition into sleep at night. From here things get a bit deep as we go onto speaking about Leo's childhood anxieties about death and psychological safety.  It's a quick ending this time due to busy schedules but perhaps we will circle around to this again in future. As always, your comments and reflections are welcome at autisticlicence@gmail.com

Some broad themes in this episode are family lineage, reading and the accessibility of group settings for neurodivergent people. Leo's great uncle has died at the grand age of 102. Siana has taken another week's deep dive into her ancestry.  Leo has been looking into two Buddhist Sanghas and Siana is training in Circle facilitation.   Thank you as ever for listening and for all your support. We'd love to hear your comments and reflections at autisticlicence@gmail.com

Siana has recently become interested in tracing her ancestry. We reflect on aspects of this from an autistic perspective, such as pattern seeking as a way into a deeper search for belonging and connection. We consider spirituality in a broader sense, touching on personality development and synchronicity.  We open up many more questions than we answer (actually we don't conclude very much at all) but that's probably very apt given the subject matter

In this episode we begin with Halloween as a springboard into superstition and then, somehow, onto Leo's ADHD meds update. Then we move into an exploration around RSD (rejection sensitive dysphoria) and ADA (autistic demand avoidance).  We focus on these two strands within our own relationship dynamic. Leo hopes this might be of use and resonate with people out there, which in turn activates an RSD moment for Siana. Despite the themes discussed in this episode we really really do want to hear your thoughts, reflections and ideas!!

This episode traverses the theme of building autistic community. We recognise the dearth of opportunities for autistic people to connect in real time. We share our ideas around how we might like to play a small part in facilitating aspects of this, for example by having guests on the podcast and running groups. We discuss various elements of this from practical, professional and ethical points of view.  We recognise that perhaps the paucity of "out" autistic therapists combined with the lack of existing resources possibly means that in the beginning there will inevitably be "boundary" issues to confront and navigate. More neuroqueering of the norms, we wonder? As ever, we would love love love to hear your thoughts, ideas and feedback

This episode was recorded on the day when we had planned a pilot "Odd One In" group meeting. We cancelled the group with 24 hours notice because only two people had signed up at that point. We reflect on our relationships to change, flexibility, choice and managing our own ways of being alongside considering others with a variety of needs. Siana rants about the logistics of the booking system for her Zumba class ... and somehow Leo manages to segway from this into his history of superstition and OCD. We compare and contrast these experiences with the common autistic activities of sorting and ordering. We then explore the value of certain rituals and ways of doing things from an aesthetic, practical or symbolic point of view. As ever, we would love to hear your thoughts and comments - autisticlicence@gmail.com

In this episode we discuss the concept of Autistic Demand Avoidance.  Siana differentiates ADA from PDA and speaks from her own experience of how it shows up across a range of areas in her life. We also check in on Leo's ADHD clinical diagnosis journey. We notice how classic traits of hyperactivity and inattention feature in our lives.  We then discuss some aspects of privilege and class related to lifestyle and "choice".  We also introduce a few considerations which seem pertinent to therapeutic relationships.  We do, of course, distract and delight in words and meanings along the way ... which quite possibly says as much about what we are talking about as what we actually say  

This episode is a fairly run-of-the-mill chit chat from a random Thursday in the middle of September. Themes include doing things for the first time, seasonal rhythms, breathing, special interests and the significance of "perspective". We showcase Leo's new drone and Siana would like to apologise for "droning" on a bit about her cough. Bonus SPIN-ny energy at the end

This episode is an excerpt from a follow up conversation we had regarding the gap between season 1 and 2. We reflect on a health situation Leo had to navigate over the summer. We discuss aspects of communication within the health care system and also between us. We also notice our tendency as autistic people to deal with what is in front of us and then to appear to “forget” about it until there is an unconscious reminder.   The good news is that Leo is fine and recovered. Thank-you for listening and for all your support.

This episode contains our reflections around beginning a new podcast season.   We discuss the gap in recording and wonder about some aspects of this. We explore the concepts of autistic burnout and energy cycles. We also speak about inherent neurodivergence as opposed to the signs of neurodivergent distress or trauma. It will be no surprise that we digress lots. We conclude that we will continue to record for another “season”.

Leo is currently on the NHS pathway towards trying out ADHD medication.  We discuss his experience of the assessment process so far. We then explore Siana's experience as a parent navigating the system. We speak about common obstacles and concerns within the process. We also reflect on whether medication might have changed outcomes for each of us in education and / or the workplace.  We attempt to navigate elements of privilege sensitively and acknowledge that this is an initial conversation which was hope will spark further discussion and reflection.  We would love to hear your thoughts!

Welcome to Season 2

This episode opens with a discussion of the "Hamilton" theatre production. Leo delights in the complexity of the rapid lyrical genius, enjoying being caught up in the current and looking forward to revisiting it again and again. Siana's experience, in contrast, is one of overwhelm and withdrawal. This is an example of polarities often seen within the autistic community and the significance of context when looking at our capacities and challenges. Siana reflects further on wearing Loop™ earplugs to manage overstimulation - at the theatre, on the tube and recently when out in a social context. We compare this with other ways in which we and others use all sorts of "accommodations" to manage our external and internal relationships and interactions. We then switch to speaking about communication within a therapeutic context, including aspects such as body language, eye contact and silence. Thank you for listening to us. If you have any comments or feedback, positive or negative, we are open and would love to hear from you.

In this episode we discuss Leo's recent experience of attending a training course.   We track many details of this, from the planning to sensory challenges and considerations, to social interactions and disclosure. We notice distinctive aspects of this which we experience differently as autistic people, many of which might not be predictable or discernible to our non autistic peers and training facilitators.  Again for this episode we have cut most of the tangential chunks in order to maintain focus for the finished edit, however we may combine all the tangents for a future release! Thank you for all your support and, as ever, please get in touch with us at autisticlicence@gmail.com if you have any comments or reflections you would like to share. LINKS Deb Dana & Polyvagal Theory Our YouTube channel Our Facebook Our website Podcast home Our other socials Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

This episode chronicles some of Siana's travel experiences on a recent trip to London with her daughter. We speak about navigating public transport systems, accommodation and orientation. We highlight things which we find helpful and comforting as autistic people, such as familiar places and foods and building time buffers into our plans. We also focus on the significance of asking for help – both when that goes well and when it doesn't. We note the anxiety and vulnerability we can experience with cumulative challenges and unpredictable situations. We have cut out many of the tangents to keep the episode focused on travel aspects but there were many enjoyable and fun times.

This episode is an exploration of some aspects of empathic communication and connection which may be distinctive for us as autistic people.  We notice the significance of this within the contexts of friendship and therapy. This dialogue also demonstrates some elements of a repair process and how - within a safe relational space - interpersonal dynamics can be discussed without defensiveness. As ever, we value any feedback you may have - you can reach us at autisticlicence@gmail.com   LINKS Our YouTube channel Our Facebook Our website Podcast home Our other socials Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

In this episode we reflect (broadly!) on the concept of having "spiky profiles".  This relates to us having aptitudes in some areas and limitations in others, usually where the differences are more pronounced than might be expected in the general population. As usual, we record without a plan / topic in mind and so there are lots of tangents.  We think the authenticity of how we speak in addition to what we say also further demonstrates some of the conundrums of being "spiky" in this way. We talk about some aspects of our educational histories, noting the unidentified autism and some of the ways in which we have reframed our ways of being nowadays in light of our ongoing personal identification journeys.   Please do feel free to email us at autisticlicence@gmail.com if you have any feedback you would like to share. Thank-you so much for being with us and all your support.   LINKS Fractals The Piano, Channel 4 (UK) Spiky profiles That's The Way I Think by David Grant Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell Our Facebook Our website Podcast home Our other socials Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

"Echolalia" might seem like mere mimicry to some but, for many autistic individuals, it's a profound way to connect and communicate. In this episode we challenge the often-pathologised views of echolalia, highlighting its role in creating warmth and fostering joint attention. Join us as we celebrate the nuances of language, accents, and sensory experiences in autistic communication. Through personal stories and reflections we explore how unconscious speech adaptations and repetitive behaviours provide consistency, creativity and joy. As well as the similarities in our experiences, this episode also showcases some differences between us in relation to the ways our hyper-connected brain pathways respond to the world.  It's always good to be reminded of the old adage "If you know one autistic person, you know one autistic person!" LINKS Radiolab - Stravinsky's Rite of Spring Synaptic pruning ABA PBS - critical article Neuroclastic - What is ABA? AMASE - On ‘Positive Behaviour Support' ABA Kindle book Francis Bourgeois on TikTok Francis Bourgeois on Instagram Francis Bourgeois on YouTube Our Facebook Our website Podcast home Our other socials Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

The general theme of this episode is gender and sexuality. As usual we blend personal anecdotes with some theory and reflection. We shine some light on asexuality as an orientation which is often invisible and / or invalidated by both heteronormative and queer communities.  We then discuss the concept of neuroqueering and apply this to our own evolving identities markers and practices. We acknowledge and explore the impact of imposter syndrome and shame on our processes. This recording is in two parts and the sound quality in the second half is a little different. The fact that it is in two parts means that you will get an in situ insight into the dynamic and ever changing nature of our dialogue. We reflect on the vulnerability of being transparent in this way, particularly in relation to this topic and with reference to our therapeutic practices.  The way in which we do this may actually be "neuroqueering" in the moment?!   Let us know what you think at autisticlicence@gmail.com We love to hear from you

The complexities of food and eating - the latest episode in our occasional mini-series on autistic senses and sensitivities. You'll hear about our experiences of eating in a range of contexts throughout our lives. We notice the degree of shame and misattunement which is often attached to this - so much so that Siana was too uncomfortable to discuss the topic in any detail until we were actually together in person and needed to eat. As if in an effort to 'join in' the conversation, Leo's tummy starts rumbling at around 36':30". We were going to try and edit it out, but left its contributions in to honour the "stomach as another brain" theory! If you would like to connect with us about this topic or anything else, you can reach us at autisticlicence@gmail.com. We love to hear from you

This conversation came out of a few messages we have received around the theme of disclosing our autistic identities. We discuss our experiences and notice there is often a distinction between our professional and personal lives.  We reflect and speculate on why this might be, with particular regard to long standing relationships. We reference the impact of ableism, recognising that unmasking is both a choice and a political move which unfortunately nowadays is not always safe, helpful or desirable. Yet. It doesn't stop us doing a podcast though!  We love to hear from you - please get in touch at autisticlicence@gmail.com if you would like to join the conversation. LINKS Our Facebook Our website Podcast home Our other socials Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

Ok, so this episode may be a bit niche

Leo (still) has Covid. Through this conversation we wind up exploring a drive he has to be useful, to serve. We notice how this shows up between us and reflect on how it may have developed. We also consider how it might change in the future so that it becomes less of a default and more of a mindful choice.  Along the way you can expect some typical autistic literalism and a discussion about the "Drama Triangle" (roles people play).   LINKS Karpman's Drama Triangle Our Facebook Our website Podcast home Our other socials Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

Trigger warning for mention of life threatening scenarios and maternal birthing distress. If you have particular sensitivities around your own experiences of healthcare please consider carefully whether and / or when you might listen to this episode.  We speak about a wide range of our experiences related to being unwell and / or navigating our healthcare needs.  This ranges from planned hospital stays to emergency admissions, from managing familiar health needs to circumstances such as giving birth and receiving vaccines.   We notice common autistic idiosyncrasies related to our perceptions of pain and discomfort. We note that many times autistic people are misunderstood and misread, which can have traumatic and isolating effects. We also reflect on self sufficiency and its limitations. And, finally!, we savour the effects of some significant interactions where we have been seen and attended to in ways which felt meaningful and profound.   We weave in some therapeutic chat related to our own communication this week while Leo has been unwell with Covid. ----more----LINKS Our Facebook Our website Podcast home Our other socials Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

Trigger warning This episode deals with the topics of loneliness and suicide. Please take care of yourself and think about the timing and where your support is if you decide to listen. We reflect on our experiences and relationships in the past, which led to loneliness, disconnection and feelings of life not being worth living. We also reflect on the distinctions between company, co-regulation and presence. We recognise that these topics are heavy and in need of careful and responsible handling. At the same time, they're extremely common among the autistic community and we feel it's important to shine light on them.   LINKS Our Facebook Our website Podcast home Our other socials Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

In this episode we talk about sensitivities to physical and sensory stimuli. We focus on challenges around noise, food and physical (dis)comfort. We speak about the significance of autonomy. We also discuss interpersonal misunderstandings related to us not doing "what's good" for us.  We note the important distinction here between things being seen as preferences rather than (in)tolerances. Seasonal references provided intermittently as we experience in real time the 26 minute time difference between sunset in London and Carrickfergus. And basically reflect on how we might control time were we in charge. Sure, how else would two Autistic people make meaning out of Easter?! LINKS Our Facebook Our website Podcast home Our other socials Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

This episode is a spontaneous Saturday chit chat.  There's a fair amount of "here and now" energy and interaction, interspersed with memories and reflections. Siana talks about her experience of ADHD when it fires in multiple directions at once - something which for her does not exclude hyperfocus "flow" states. Leo reflects on a range of experiences he is now reframing in light of autism, such as the after effects of exhilarating events and "talking to myself". We touch on concepts such as echolalia and synaptic pruning, applying these to our own experiences and challenging some common misconceptions. We conclude that as AuDHDers, while we absolutely face challenges around over stimulation, we also have tremendous capacity for sensory joy and pleasure. LINKS Synaptic Pruning Mint Aero bar BNL shoutout Echolalia Our Facebook Our website Podcast home Our other socials Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

This episode is in many ways a reflection on elements of the last one. We speak about early narratives and experiences, and the lifelong meaning and impact of these. We apply this to therapeutic contexts and approaches, specifically Transactional Analysis and Internal Family Systems, and we relate this to therapy with autistic people. We also explore the concept of so called "rigid" thinking and the possible significance of this for us as autistic people growing up in a world where the template for living which is offered to us does not fit or deliver. Special guest contribution from Phoebe - Siana's cat - in this episode

In this episode we discuss how we, as autistic people, are seen and experienced by others. We then traverse some thorny territory relating to how we see ourselves and influence each other. These are sensitive ideas and topics, interspersed with distractions, brain glitches and spiralling reasoning which somehow loops together in the end.   LINKS Neuroqueer Heresies Facebook Podcast home Our website Our other socials Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

In this episode we begin to circumambulate the intersectionality of autism and queerness. We begin with Siana's home interior decorating project and finish up discussing Leo's gender identity development. In between we wax lyrical around some relationship models, notably Siana's current QPR (queer platonic relationship). Comical interlude provided by Leo's beautifully curated ritual around a previous relationship. Topic to be continued - we listen to your feedback and suggestions

This episode is another “in person” recording.  We reflect on our experiences of travelling with and without accommodations. We specifically speak about the profound benefits for us of wearing a Sunflower lanyard when travelling in busy and often overwhelming airports. We also talk about the significance of our sense of smell, in particular Leo's awareness of this in new places. NOISE WARNING: towards the end of our chat we talk about the possibility of adding a noise warning to this episode. This is because of some loud noise from people working outside during the recording. The warning wasn't necessary in the end as we were able to filter it out in the edit. Clever us! LINKS What is the Hidden Disabilities Sunflower? (hdsunflower.com) Facebook Podcast home Our website Our other socials Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

We recorded this episode while we were together in Siana's house last weekend.  We explore co-regulation and bring in various ideas and theories from autistic, therapeutic and scientific communities to flavour our discussion. We end up specifically inviting the non autistic community to join and get to know us and, most importantly, the autistic people around them. LINKS Trauma and the nervous system: a polyvagal perspective (youtube.com) Resources | Rhythm of Regulation What is the double empathy problem? (smallstepps.com) The ‘double empathy problem': Ten years on - Damian Milton, Emine Gurbuz, Beatriz López, 2022 (sagepub.com) Facebook Podcast home Our website Our other socials Contact us at: autisticlicence@gmail.com

In this episode we explore the finite nature of personal energy and capacity. We refer to our own experiences and to wider "spoon theory". The pace of this conversation is slow and relaxed; it's basically two autistic people hanging out together. If that's your vibe, we'd love you to join us

Leo enquires about Jungian Sandplay, a therapeutic modality Siana offers in her therapy practice. We explore Siana's demand avoidance about the prospect of speaking about this and then eventually get there in a perfectly autistic way. This is a lovely illustration of "Takiwatanga" which we happened to post about on our Facebook feed this week. Takiwatanga is the Maori word for autism which translates as "in their own time and space". Join us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61555354942260   LINKS What is demand avoidance? – PDA Society The PDA Summit 2023 (thepdaspace.com) Autistic Demand Avoidance – an example – Riko's blog: PDA and more. (wordpress.com) Petition · National Autistic Society to remove harmfully biased PDA information from their website · Change.org   Contact us autisticlicence@gmail.com Facebook facebook.com/autisticlicencepodcast Podcast home autisticlicence.podbean.com Our website autisticlicence.com Our other socials linktr.ee/autisticlicence

In this episode we explore the centrality of the core value of justice for many autistic people. We discuss the impacts on us when things aren't "right" or fair, the tenacity needed to address these and the toll this takes on us. We then tentatively begin to explore some particular ways in which our social experiences correlate with theory around masking, fawning and appeasement. LINKS Trauma 101 with Linda Thai - Learning about trauma can be empowering and transformative. When Agreement is Not Consent - Appeasement is the trauma response no one is talking about - By Rae Johnson and Nkem Ndefo Appeasement: replacing Stockholm syndrome as a definition of a survival strategy Contact us autisticlicence@gmail.com Facebook facebook.com/autisticlicencepodcast Podcast home autisticlicence.podbean.com Our website autisticlicence.com Our other socials linktr.ee/autisticlicence

In today's episode we're gearing up for the new year in our therapy practices. We reflect on therapeutic relationships and processes, wondering about and exploring those facets which might just be unique to autistic or AuDHD lives.  And we talk about our hopes and dreams for the podcast in 2024 inviting you to connect with us as we build the Autistic Licence community together.   Contact us autisticlicence@gmail.com Our website autisticlicence.com Our socials linktr.ee/autisticlicence

You are very welcome to join us here for Christmas Part 2. Recorded on Boxing Day 2023, we reflect on our "festive" experiences this year. We then springboard off a seemingly inconsequential moment we shared recently, into a deeply satisfying autistic dive. We'd love to hear your thoughts and experiences, neurospicy and otherwise. Contact us autisticlicence@gmail.com Our website autisticlicence.com Our socials linktr.ee/autisticlicence

Join us as we explore and reflect on our experiences of Christmases past and the lead up to this year's "festivities". We sensitively unpack some specific challenges the season poses for us and our neurokin. We share some of our learning from over the years and recognise this is still a work in progress. In true autistic style this episode jumps around a fair bit and diverts left, right and centre ... yet wondrously (autistically ❤️) arcs right back to where it needs to be at the end. At the time of release we tentatively intend to record again during the coming week as we are intrigued to track the process. But, y'know, demand avoidance and all that means we need some grace on the timing of all that. Thank you so, so, so, so much for all your encouragement and support over the past couple of months! This project truly delights our hearts ❤️ Contact us autisticlicence@gmail.com Our website autisticlicence.com Our socials linktr.ee/autisticlicence

Here we talk about loss and retrieval - of a car, a voice and even of the land! We reflect on the line between being perceived as "annoying" verses being curious, further expanding the pitfalls and the benefits of being #actuallyautistic in social and therapeutic contexts. Join us for a mix of complexity and so-called "info dumping" within a warm, kind and therapeutic space. LINKS Linda Thai www.linda-thai.com Trauma Geek's blog post autietraumageek.medium.com/lost-in-translation-the-social-language-theory-of-neurodivergence-part-1-of-2-1963ba0073c5 Contact us autisticlicence@gmail.com Our website autisticlicence.com Our socials linktr.ee/autisticlicence

In this episode we share some autistic joy