Podcasts about socialising

Send us a textSarah welcomes Dr. Emily Wilkinson as a returning guest to The Beyond Condition Podcast to discuss socialising as a bodybuilder.There is plenty to talk about with this topic, from meals out to understanding boundaries we go on plenty of tangents to resonate with the listeners.Discussions include:*Socialising as a bodybuilder*Routine*Values and beliefs*Weekly averages and managing variables*Scale weight*Clear communication and social occasions*Dealing with hunger*Mindset*Social media*Relationship with food and body imageFind Emily on Instagram @emilywilkinsonphdWatch it here: https://youtu.be/iGZG65a5L8EGet in touch and share this episode @sarahparker_bb

Sam still loves new Skrillex and Max finds some heavy Finnish material for the new music mix, then they cover off a gig they caught together, and touch base on the biggest sets from Coachella so far.Follow along with the songs we discuss with this week's Spotify Playlist.Discover more new music and hear your favourite artists with 78 Amped on Instagram and TikTok.

James is an artist and wilderness guide from New York. Driven by a desire to make the outdoors accessible to more people, James created Hike and Draw - a platform where he combines art and education to help people connect with nature in a meaningful way.Listen to hear more about:The rhythm of the seasons in New York.How the Scouting movement taught James to thrive in a range of outdoor environments.How James developed Hike and Draw.How nature connection can combat loneliness.The early natural historians that inspire James' work.The difference between and expedition and an adventure and how this relates to nature journaling.How a broken leg led James to nature journaling!How to be guided by ethics when interacting with nature.Nature journaling as a tool for conducting scientific research.Finding your niche.Socialising your research.The power of mountains. You can learn more about James and his work on his website www.hikeanddraw.nyc and on Instagram @james_sisti. Get a hardcopy of the book using this link: A Field Guide to Nature Journaling.-----------------Sign-up for Journaling With Nature's Newsletter to receive news and updates each month.You can support Journaling With Nature Podcast on Patreon. Your contribution is deeply appreciated.Thanks for listening!

Are you over 40 and training Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ)? Or maybe you're considering starting BJJ later in life?In this episode I sit down with fourth-degree brown belt Abby to discuss why so many people quit before reaching blue belt and why BJJ is the perfect martial art for those over 40 looking to stay fit, make lifelong friends, and build resilience.To check out and Subscribe to Abby's YouTube channel click this link https://www.youtube.com/@abbychavez8892TIME STAMPS0:00

Is going out with friends for a pint a thing of the past? Replaced by an interactive experience where you become someone else and get served by a robot barman? Henry McKean checked out the world of 'competitive socialising' and sent in this report…

Corporate loan write-offs are justified as necessary to improve banks' financial situation and to stimulate economic activity. However, they increase the fiscal deficit and government debt, reducing the money available for social welfare and development programmes. The burden is borne by taxpayers and we now also have to make do with fewer public services. Large loan waivers also distort the market by handing corporate houses an unfair advantage – they not only access cheap credit, but avoid accountability. Smaller businesses, meanwhile, get no such relaxations and have to pay higher interest rates to make up for the loss caused by the write-offs. It's a process that reeks of corruption and has no moral root. Please listen to the latest episode of All Indians Matter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, I help you to unpack how Dry January went for you, celebrating the learnings from both the good and the bad. However your Jan went, this episode can help you to reflect on that before you decide on your next goal moving forward. If you would like to download my FREE Masterclass on Socialising without Alcohol, please find it on my Stan.Store: https://stan.store/Coachingbyanneka If you would like to book in for a free consultation call with me to discuss where you are in your journey and what coaching packages might best suit you, please email me on: thrive@coachingbyanneka.co.uk Please check your junk if it seems I don't respond quickly. To avail the 50% off offer for my course: 'How to Stop Drinking and Enjoy it' please use the below link: https://stan.store/Coachingbyanneka/p/get-started-with-this-amazing-course-sboqa To get 15% off To Be Magnetic, please use the code: ANNEKA https://tobemagnetic.com/ To find me on Insta: @coachingbyanneka To find me on Tik Tok: @coachingbyanneka_official

Socialising and networking alcohol-free can be tough—even for the pros. But for Narmeen, it's a choice she's never looked back on.Now, she's shaking up the events industry, challenging organisers and caterers to rethink how they cater to guests. Her mission? To make events more inclusive and ensure everyone feels part of the party, regardless of what's in their glass.

This I believe is the right time for this episode for we introverts with festive season at its peak.   I explore how we socialise on our own terms during the high-energy, high expectation festive season. As an introvert myself, I've often faced misconceptions that I'm antisocial, shy or arrogant.    Apparently, introverts avoid people. We do not. It is about managing our social and emotional energy wisely. It is more about how societal pressures affect we introverts both at work and in family situations.   It is about respecting our own boundaries while giving ourselves the permission to enjoy social events meaningfully. It is about being discerning with invites using our personal selective socialisation blueprint.     *** Key Points ***   Understand and respect our boundaries with social invites. Communicating polite yet firm 'no' Set your intentions mindfully   *** Resources ***   Visit https://hub.flourishingintroverts.com/resourcesp for tools and resources mentioned during the podcast.

Youtube - https://youtu.be/TQVWUdFibC8 The Profiteers - https://www.amazon.com/Profiteers-Business-Privatizes-Profits-Socializes/dp/1541703529Newsletter - https://curiousworldview.beehiiv.com/subscribeChristopher Marquis spent 10 years as a professor at the Harvard Business School, he's also worked as a professor at Cornell, the Harvard Kennedy School and is currently a professor at the Judge Business School in Cambridge, where I was lucky enough to record this in person with him. It was quite a neat experience actually, after we did the interview, Christopher treated me to a lunch in one of the Cambrdige college halls where in proper Friday British fashion, a perfect Fish and Chips was served. Christopher has authored three books, but the subject of this interview was his latest… Profiteers, How Business Privatizes Profit and Socializes Cost.Some of you may have noticed a recurring question around ‘negative externalities' in several of my interviews this year… particularly with Johan Norberg most recently. Well, Adam Lantz, who listens to this podcast reached out to me in response to the JOhan interview and said. If you really wanty to talk externalities, than you've got to talk to this guy.Johan Norberg Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/episode/4ujVUlq3BbhTDBhBFnaR5S?si=46b8333b866341da Johan Norberg Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/johan-norberg-does-capitalism-fail-to-price-in-negative/id1540424160?i=1000671395087 And so I wrote to Christopher immediately, read his book, booked the flight and was greeted with so much generosity and hospitality it was a bit of a pinch myself moment, because even though this podcast creates 0 dollars in revenue, it's instead introducing me to a wealth of experience.This episode with Christopher is negative externalities all the way down… with specific attention to plastics, agriculture and clothing.00:00 - Christopher Marquis02:27 - The Externality Iceberg07:57 - The Plastic Iceberg14:47 - Can A Free Market Price These Negative Externalities?26:04 - Agriculture Iceberg41:07 - We Consume Via Our Means Not Our Morals42:41 - Clothing Iceberg52:33 - Egregious Cases Of Greenwashing54:39 - Zoom & Netflix? Externality?1:07:22 - The Jevons Paradox1:08:43 - Just Speed Bumps On The Way To Prosperity?1:12:35 - Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy, What Are The Right Questions?1:16:57 - Serendipity In Christopher's Life

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You may know Michael from Love on the Spectrum, or his podcast Mr A+, or even his appearance on Ellen – he’s done it all and has gained an incredible amount of wisdom on his journey so far. We’ve been doing this show for six years, and no-one has ever summarised it as well as Michael Theo: trying to be perfect is a wild goose chase. In this episode, Hugh, Ryan and Josh chat to Michael about how he found his voice after growing up as a non-verbal kid, and instils on the guys some advice on how to handle nerves (and do some proper improv). Michael, we had an absolute blast. We’ll see you for a Yowie sometime soon. If you want to watch this full episode on YouTube, follow this link: https://youtu.be/eVtYKdJUpVU

El Gibbs is a writer and deputy ceo of DANA, the Disability Advocacy network Australia. Recently she had a chat with Indymedia's Jack Prendergast to discuss cost blowouts tot he NDIS and possible non-market based alternative's to the scheme.

When Xiomara Wimmer decided to give up drinking, she didn't just change her life—she found herself becoming part of an alcohol-free super couple.Little did she know that sharing her journey alongside her husband would turn into a mission that's now helping countless others navigate socialising alcohol-free.Welcome to The Next Round, the podcast where we dive into the inspiring stories of people who've redefined their lives by changing their relationship with alcohol. From mending relationships to taking on life-changing challenges, the possibilities are endless when booze is no longer center stage.In this episode, we meet Xiomara, a trailblazer in the alcohol-free community. Since embracing an alcohol-free lifestyle, she and her husband have inspired countless others by sharing their journey on their social platform—showing how vibrant and connected life can be without alcohol. Now, Xiomara is taking her mission even further, leading empowering workshops designed to help others socialise with confidence, authenticity, and joy in an alcohol-free world.You can find xiomara and Patrick @theafcoupleFor Xiomara and her husband Patrick, alcohol was a common element in their relationship—until they realised it was holding them back. When they decided to give up drinking, everything changed. It wasn't just about cutting out alcohol; it was about rediscovering their connection, their purpose, and their shared passions.A Life-Changing DecisionXiomara and Patrick, also known as The AF Couple, shared their story of going alcohol-free over two and a half years ago. For years, they enjoyed their life together but noticed that alcohol often brought unnecessary conflict and tension into their relationship. While it wasn't always the source of their problems, it tended to amplify any existing issues.Finally, they reached a breaking point. They decided to remove alcohol from their lives completely. The result? A newfound clarity in their relationship and their communication.Building an Alcohol-Free Life TogetherGoing alcohol-free is a personal journey, but for Xiomara and Patrick, it was also a shared one. They chose to navigate this path side by side, creating a unique and powerful dynamic. “We've always been told we're a beautiful couple, but when alcohol was involved, that didn't always align.”  Xiomara WimmerBy quitting together, they strengthened their bond and rediscovered what made them such a great team.They now share their journey on their Instagram account, @theafcouple, where they document the highs and lows of their alcohol-free lifestyle. Their posts reflect the reality of sobriety, showcasing both the good and the messy moments, inspiring others to reconsider their relationship with alcohol.Follow Xiomara and Patrick's journey on Instagram at @theafcouple, and discover how an alcohol-free lifestyle can open up a world of possibilities.Find Club Soda:The Club Soda Tasting Room is at 39 Drury Lane, London, WC2B 5RRFind us on Instagram

The festive season is here, and with it comes the whirlwind of planning, hosting, and endless to do lists. In this episode, I'm talking about the pressure many women feel to create a picture perfect celebration while juggling work, family, and everything in between. From letting go of perfectionism to prioritising meaningful connections, we'll explore practical ways to avoid burnout and actually enjoy this busy time of year!I'll also share tips on asking for help, delegating tasks, and carving out time for self care, because you deserve to feel as festive as everyone else! Here are the highlights(02:38) Letting Go of Perfectionism(03:30) Embracing Connection and Socialising(07:12) Asking for and Accepting Help(09:25) Practicing Self CareConnect with Ruth:Instagram LinkedIn WebsiteThis podcast is proudly produced by The Podcast Boutique

Socialising far more than usual can make reaching fat loss goals a little bit trickier this time of year if you let it. However in this episode I'm sharing 9 years of insights and experience specifically related to calorie banking, how to use it, the benefits and pitfalls to help you make this time of year as seamless as possible. You'll get lots of real talk and practical strategies you can apply right away. Online coaching with Aimee: https://thefemalephysiquehub.mykajabi.com/Glam%20Body%20Program DM Aimee on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_femalephysiquehub/

Send us a textSarah welcomes Rachel Newman to The Beyond Condition Podcast to share her journey as a WPD IFBB PRO.Rachel became an IFBB PRO in 2023 and has been competing since 2013. She started her journey at age 39 and is now 50. In this episode you will get to hear how Rachel juggles bodybuilding, being a parent to her son and daughter and working as a high school teacher to special education students.Discussions include:*Competing as a bodybuilding*Coaching relationship*Choosing category*Socialising and environment*Social media and dealing with conflict*Balancing life, competing and teaching*Training and intention*Turning pro and aspiration*Motherhood and bodybuilding*Off season*Diet adherenceFind Rachel on Instagram @rachiemara23Watch it here: https://youtu.be/gdadZWJQrWAGet in touch and share this episode @sarahparker_bb

Stress affects people in different ways, both physically and emotionally, and to varying degrees. Research shows that stress can sometimes be positive by making us more alert and helping us perform better in certain situations. However, over a prolonged period of time, stress can take its toll. It seems our lives today are constant to-do lists and commitments. Today, November 6th, is National Stress Awareness Day, a day that encourages people to recognise and manage stress in healthy ways, emphasising the importance of self-care and stress reduction techniques. Dr. Phil Kieran is a Cork based GP. He says it's important to take stock of our lives and manage stress. "Today's world is hurried and hectic, and it's crucial we begin to take heed of how it is affecting our bodies. We need to take note of what our days look like and identify places we can improve or take a few moments for ourselves. It's important not to ignore physical signs of stress, too. Finding a balance between responsibility to others and to yourself is important in reducing stress levels. At the end of the day, try not to be too hard on yourself - keep things in perspective. We all have bad days." Here are Dr Phil's 5 tips to help cope with everyday stress: 1. Exercising Physical activity can be very effective in relieving stress and improving our sleep. It burns off excess energy and frees the mind. Even light exercise like a walk in nature, taking in fresh air, can make a big difference. Try to find an activity that you're passionate about to keep you motivated. 2. Sleep Stress can have a big impact on our sleep patterns. It can make it more difficult to get to or stay asleep. Sleep is important for mental health. It helps us to think clearly and gives us the energy to deal with issues. Most people need 5 to 9 hours of sleep a night with more than 7 hours recommended for adults. 3. Self Care Often touted as a treat or luxury, self-care is a significant part of feeling and staying well. Taking time out to look after ourselves can play a big role in our lives. Even taking small moments for ourselves can help build a more resilient version of ourselves to deal with stress. Taking a supplement like Zenflore Calm as part of a daily routine can also help with relaxation and emotional balance while supporting a busy mind. 4. Catching up with family and friends Community can have a really positive impact on relieving stress levels. Socialising and meeting up with friends and family can help us forget about worries or help us through a trying time - a problem shared is a problem halved! 4. Eating well and staying hydrated What we eat can make a difference to our overall health - the choices we make can improve our physical and mental health. It's important to make sure we are drinking enough water, too. Proper hydration is vital for maintaining cognitive functions such as memory, attention, and problem-solving. A diet rich in foods such as fruit, vegetables, whole grains, nuts and seeds can boost our energy and mental health. More about Irish Tech News Irish Tech News are Ireland's No. 1 Online Tech Publication and often Ireland's No.1 Tech Podcast too. You can find hundreds of fantastic previous episodes and subscribe using whatever platform you like via our Anchor.fm page here: https://anchor.fm/irish-tech-news If you'd like to be featured in an upcoming Podcast email us at Simon@IrishTechNews.ie now to discuss. Irish Tech News have a range of services available to help promote your business. Why not drop us a line at Info@IrishTechNews.ie now to find out more about how we can help you reach our audience. You can also find and follow us on Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and Snapchat.

This week Adrienne, Sammi and Oli are discussing the Telegaph's recent article "Five healthy weekend habits to balance out weekday sins".There's a look at the news of a pill that mimics the effects of exercise - could it be the future of wellness "Workout in a Pill: Scientists Develop Molecule That Mimics the Benefits of Exercise and Fasting" And lastly, there's a look at the recent trend of competitive socialising with the likes of Flight Club, TOCA, Sixes and beyond.Don't forget to rate/review and subscribe or follow!You can follow the show and send in your questions to @modernwellnesspodcast or email questions@modernwellnesspodcast.comAnd follow the hosts Adrienne @adrienne_ldn, Sammi @sammiadhami, and Oli @_olipatrick. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We love this insight from Glennon Doyle - you don't have to be responsible for everyone's energy in the room. If you struggle to have people over because of the pressure you feel to keep everyone happy, this one's for you. LINKS Follow @novapodcastsofficial on Instagram    CREDITS Host: Casey Donovan @caseydonovan88 Writer: Amy Molloy @amymolloy Podcast Producer: Adair SheppardEditor: Adrian Walton  Listen to more great podcasts at novapodcasts.com.au   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this weeks episode of One For The Road i am joined by Phil Briggs who is a 54 year old make-up artist living in London who stopped drinking alcohol in April 2024. Phil was born and raised in Liverpool during the 70s and 80s and moved to live amongst the bright lights of London when he was 21 years old. Phil, like many, discovered alcohol at a young age of 15 and it soon became part of all social life both in Liverpool and following the move to London. He remembers being frequently drunk from the age of 16 when he left school and began working for a large bank. Socialising with the Liverpool banking colleagues whilst at the same time regularly having nights out on Liverpool's gay scene, alcohol featured heavily several times per week. This continued following the move to London with new banking colleagues and a busy London gay nightlife. Social drinking continued for many years and in his 30s, Phil found drinking wine with meals indoors became an additional regular time to imbibe. In 2012, Phil was hit with a series of life-changing events including job loss, divorce, financial difficulties and bereavement. While not directly responsible for these incidents, alcohol, which had previously been reserved for socialising and enjoying with a meal, became the go to coping mechanism for difficult life events. By the time the pandemic hit in 2020, Phil was already drinking every night in increasing amounts and being alone during the pandemic it escalated to whole new levels of drinking. When a very close friend of 30 years died of Covid, Phil found dealing with the grief without being able to see anyone else, cemented very heavy, nightly drinking in place. Phil knew something had to change and after months of procrastination decided on a three month break from alcohol which turned into a realisation that the only option for him was to stop completely. It hasn't been a simple path, with extra health problems coming to the surface and dealing with living alone where most of the heavy drinking had taken place. But research on the subject and connection with others going through the same has enabled Phil to remain alcohol free. Phil now uses his make-up skills to help those with skin conditions which cause them a loss of confidence, to use specialist skin creams to cover the conditions. Now, more than six months alcohol free, he is beginning to notice subtle but vital changes in his life and for the first time in many years is very excited about the future and finding out what he is capable of.Phil's websites:www.camouflageconsultations.comwww.philbriggsmakeup.comIf you want to connect with me via Instagram, you can find me on the instahandle @Soberdave https://www.instagram.com/soberdave/or via my website https://davidwilsoncoaching.com/Provided below are links for services offering additional help and advice.www.drinkaware.co.uk/advice/alcohol-support-serviceshttps://nacoa.org.uk/Show producer- Daniella Attanasio-MartinezInstagram - @TheDaniellaMartinezhttps://www.instagram.com/thedaniellamartinez/www.instagram.com/grownuphustle Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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In part 2, Catherine Gray explains why trying sobriety for 30 days isn't enough, and why 90 days is the real test. Catherine and Dr Alex discuss why you shouldn't avoid socialising during Sober October or Dry January, how to prepare for the different ways people may react to you not drinking and Catherine shares her top tips for socialising sober including the big one: weddings. Follow @unexpectedjoyof and get her book, ‘The Unexpected Joy of Being Sober'Get Catherine's debut novel ‘Versions of a Girl' Follow the podcast on Instagram @thestompcastTo improve your mental fitness, get Dr Alex's book The Mind ManualDownload Mettle: the mental fitness app for men Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, we talk to a client who wants to build more connections. Schedule a FREE 1-2-1 Zoom Call with David Here: https://go.oncehub.com/DavidHulman1/ Enjoying the Daily Podcast? Leave a 5 Star Review Here: https://ratethispodcast.com/selfbeliefchief 10% Off BetterHelp Therapy Here: https://betterhelp.com/selfbeliefchief #ad The Self-Belief Chief Podcast is a show for anyone who wants to live their best life. We talk to & about real clients who are interested in all things self-improvement, motivation, success, mindset, relationships, happiness, love, health, wealth, personaldevelopment, wellness, spirituality, productivity, self-help, learning, and growth.

Are you still recovering from the weekend? If you're an introvert this isn't uncommon. But this is how you can tackle it!! LINKS Follow @novapodcastsofficial on Instagram    CREDITS Host: Casey Donovan @caseydonovan88 Writer: Amy Molloy @amymolloy Podcast Producer: Adair SheppardEditor: Adrian Walton  Listen to more great podcasts at novapodcasts.com.au   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sarah welcomes Wendy McCready back to The Beyond Condition Podcast for an inspiring episode that gives the listeners insight into Wendy's journey as the longest serving IFBB Pro.We delve into so many topics and this episode is jam packed! We talk about both mental and physical growth, success as a competitor, the pro mindset and so much more...Discussions include:*Mindset and personal growth*Living as a pro bodybuilder*Amateur and professional bodybuilding*Socialising and your circle*Dealing with injury and surgery*The art of posing*PED use and side effect*Coaching relationship*Bodybuilding preps*Trauma and healing*Environment*Social media*Self belief and passion*Dealing with conflict Find Wendy on Instagram @ifbbprowendymccreadyWatch it here: Get in touch and share this episode @sarahparker_bb

In this episode we welcome guests Shay, Annamay & Kay of Shiikane and discuss: • Learning from your parents • Dating celebrities on the down low • Mixed raced people not claiming Black • The London riots and their affect • Ethnic people being scared to go outside due to anti-migrant riots • Being attractive to Arabs • Nigerians in Olympics • Love Island couple in heat for cultural joke • People outside of the relationships getting angry on behalf of the people in it • Is it ok to make racial jokes on other races • Socialising with work colleagues • Miss South Africa and the Nigerian heritage model • Racism on the rise • Why are Nigerians so cocky and so hated • Nigerian men simping • AITA for telling off my daughter • #StavrosSays : Shiikane - Sixty Diamond Seconds [https://open.spotify.com/artist/6BBdrTz88rbQhqSmSWidR1] Connect with our guests: Kay is @bankthisbleep Annamay is @unconventionalprincess Shay is @hrhisalwaysright Shiikane are on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/shiikaneofficial Twitter https://twitter.com/shiikane Youtube : https://www.youtube.com/@ShiikaneTv Connect with us at & send your questions & comments to: #ESNpod so we can find your comments www.esnpodcast.com www.facebook.com/ESNpodcasts www.twitter.com/ESNpodcast www.instagram.com/ESNpodcast @esnpodcast on all other social media esnpodcast@gmail.com It's important to subscribe, rate and review us on your apple products. You can do that here... www.bit.ly/esnitunes

This episode opens with a discussion of the "Hamilton" theatre production. Leo delights in the complexity of the rapid lyrical genius, enjoying being caught up in the current and looking forward to revisiting it again and again. Siana's experience, in contrast, is one of overwhelm and withdrawal. This is an example of polarities often seen within the autistic community and the significance of context when looking at our capacities and challenges. Siana reflects further on wearing Loop™ earplugs to manage overstimulation - at the theatre, on the tube and recently when out in a social context. We compare this with other ways in which we and others use all sorts of "accommodations" to manage our external and internal relationships and interactions. We then switch to speaking about communication within a therapeutic context, including aspects such as body language, eye contact and silence. Thank you for listening to us. If you have any comments or feedback, positive or negative, we are open and would love to hear from you.

Ever wondered how embracing patience, persistence, and resilience can transform your life? Join us as we speak with Mags Sheridan, an embodiment coach whose journey of quitting alcohol and embracing sobriety since 2016 has profoundly reshaped her world. Mags delves into her extensive involvement with SMART Recovery, a program that employs cognitive and rational emotive behavioral therapy tools to tackle a wide range of addictions. In this episode, we emphasise the power of recognising and addressing unhealthy patterns before they spiral out of control. Mags shares her personal experiences and we explore the stigma associated with the term "alcoholic." We also shed light on support systems like AA, discussing both the camaraderie and the contentious notion of powerlessness. This conversation is an encouraging resource for anyone contemplating reducing or quitting alcohol, highlighting the significant personal growth that comes from such decisions.Discover the joy of sober socialising and the burgeoning industry of non-alcoholic beverages that cater to an inclusive social environment. We reflect on the importance of sober events and the sense of community they foster, from ecstatic dance meetups to the "Cozy and Confident" workshop. These gatherings not only offer practical tools for navigating social settings without alcohol but also celebrate the enriching connections made in sobriety. As we wrap up, we celebrate the power of community and shared experiences in overcoming addiction and building a fulfilling, alcohol-free life. This episode is a heartfelt tribute to the strength found in togetherness and the transformative journey of sobriety. website:  https://magssheridan.com/embody-recovery-course/ meet up website: https://www.meetup.com/en-AU/sydney-sober-socials/   insta:https://www.instagram.com/mags.sheridan.mojo/Sober Socialising workshop at Seadrift Distillery: https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/confident-and-cozy-alcohol-free-socialising-for-winter-tickets-934198341387?aff=oddtdtcreator MEGMegan Webb: https://glassfulfilled.com.auInstagram: @glassfulfilledUnwined Bookclub: https://www.alcoholfreedom.com.au/unwinedbookclubSober Socialising workshop at Seadrift Distillery: https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/confident-and-cozy-alcohol-free-socialising-for-winter-tickets-934198341387?aff=oddtdtcreator BELLAIsabella Ferguson: https://isabellaferguson.com.auInstagram: @alcoholandstresswithisabellaFree 5-Day DO I HAVE A DRINKING PROBLEM? Clarify and focus series: https://resources.isabellaferguson.com.au/doIhaveadrinkingproblemwithisabellafergusonAlcohol Freedom Small Group Challenge - Register here: https://resources.isabellaferguson.com.au/alcoholfreedomchallengeThe Alcohol Revolution 6-Week Program (Online or Podcast): ...

What are you focused on when you go out socialising when not drinking? How good it could be? How how bad it will be? In this weeks episode of The Alcohol ReThink podcast, Patrick discusses the challenges of socialising without alcohol and provides some tools to help shift your focus from negative outcomes to positive opportunities and experiences. Be prepared to hear about the importance of setting clear intentions, visualising positive outcomes, and reframing negative thoughts. Discover how you can start embracing socialising without alcohol... Some of the awesome takeaways: Socialising without alcohol can be daunting, but it doesn't have to be a negative experience. Shift your focus from negative outcomes to positive opportunities and experiences. Set clear intentions for what you want to experience during social events without alcohol. Practice visualisation to prime your brain for positive experiences. Reframe negative thoughts by asking yourself what the best thing could happen. Be kind to yourself and acknowledge that anxiety and uncertainty are normal. Get ready to start creating more clarity, connection, and discovery. Awesome resources to help you stop drinking: 1. The Alcohol ReThink Podcast Guide The simple guide to rethinking alcohol. It was created from the top 3 episodes of the podcast. Each episode has a cool exercise to help you rethink alcohol for good. Get your guide here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patrickjfox.com/podcast-guide⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 2. The Alcohol Mindset Reset Challenge Imagine in the next 30 days that you have radically changed the way you think about alcohol. Imagine getting some sober firsts and sober wins under your belt and feeling incredibly proud of yourself. That is what's possible when you participate in the alcohol rethink project. A free 30-day email mindset-reset series to support you in stopping drinking. Change the way you think about alcohol and yourself and stop drinking today. Get stuck in here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Alcohol ReThink Project⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Connect with Patrick: To find out how Patrick can help you stop drinking and create an awesome life without alcohol, book a free⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ one hour consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Break free from the cycle of drinking and start doing more of what you love in life. Time waits for no one and alcohol is stealing it from you. Get yourself booked in⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Website:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patrickjfox.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thealcoholrethinkproject/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@thealcoholrethinkpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/alcoholrethinkproject⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/sobercuriousmen

It's been another busy week with an awful lot of exciting activities! It was time for the whole family to get involved in an 'olympiad' and Dick is very excited about some of the delicious produce from the garden!Excited to meet Dick & Angel in person? Come and see them on their all new UK tour this autumn! For dates and tickets, visit https://thechateau.tv/pages/tourPlease review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/

What would it feel like to have the very thing that mad you great - your body, strength and co-ordination - slowly and painfully taken away from you? As a swimmer, Michael Klim was on top of the world - he was literally ‘World Swimmer of the Year'. Trips to the Olympics, medals of every colour, 21 world records AND his face on the cover of a Foo Fighters Album, Michael really did have it all. However, in 2022 Michael was diagnosed with a life changing condition, wherein your body attacks it's own tissue - chronic inflammatory demyelination polyneuropathy (CIDP). In this episode, Hugh, Ryan and Josh chat to Michael about his equally impressive life out of the pool, and how his CIDP diagnosis has taught him a lot about identity, grief and relationships. In 2023, Michael partnered with Australian Red Cross Lifeblood to help raise awareness for the vital role blood donation plays in not just his life, but the 1 in 3 Australians who will need blood products in their lifetime. To help recipients like Michael and countless others book a blood donation here. https://bit.ly/4c8Z6tN To watch the full episode on YouTube, follow this link. https://bit.ly/3RHPUoi   Links mentioned in the episode and extra resources:  

Matt meets Andy Ramage, a footballer who became a commodities broker, when injury ended his career.  While Andy's career was a success, something was missing. He felt broken. And so ten years ago, he embarked on a journey to transform his life. Andy realised that alcohol was impacting how he felt, and his ability to get things done. So, he set his sights on a 90 days booze-free challenge. And he's never looked back. If you need a bit of motivation right now, whatever challenge you want to take on, Andy's the man for the occasion. Related links: Andy's website (with free resources and coaching workshops) Andy's books: Let's Do This & The 28 Day Alcohol-Free Challenge The Alcohol-Free Advantage Podcast with Andy Ramage The Dryy App Dryy Fest NHS Alcohol Support Services Nick Littlehales' Sleep  BJ Fogg's Tiny Habits (00:00) Introduction (01:23) Andy's move from football into broking (05:40) Andy's definition of “middle-lane drinking” (08:42) Wanting to try alcohol-free (and the social pressure around drinking) (14:37) Andy's diagnosis of coronary artery calcification  (16:32) Living optimally alcohol-free - the health benefits (20:46) Matt's experience of people asking him about their own drinking (21:58) Andy's advice for starting an alcohol-free journey (moving past the excuses) (25:33) The effect that middle lane drinking has on your sleep, performance and health (31:00) What's going on in your brain (chasing that dopamine spike) (34:32) Relationships with people who aren't alcohol-free (37:57) The red wine myth (resveratrol) and “magic grannies” (40:34) Socialising, alcohol-free drinks, and Dryy Fest (46:57) Studying in later life (48:22) Willpower and motivational psychology (49:48) Andy's advice for building exercise habits (and core values) (54:40) The stages of change and accepting that you will slip up (58:14) Matt's outro

Sarah welcomes Sandra Avelli to The Beyond Condition Podcast to launch the brand new Psychology Series. Sandra is a domestic abuse survivor, competitor and coach working with physique enthusiasts. Sandra brings her knowledge and experience to help the listeners understand more about enhancing your mindset, relationships and progression as a bodybuilder.We share plenty of insight into many of the challenges you can face post show including planning ahead, monitoring your health whilst reversing out and communication with those around you.Discussions include:*The benefits of weight training*Bodybuilding prep vs bodybuilding as a lifestyle*The phases of bodybuilding*Reversing out*Sleep apnea*Relationships and communication*Stress and recovery management*Post show and external pressure*Body dysmorphia*Self care and journalling*Socialising as a bodybuilder*Self restriction*Monitoring progressFind Sandra on Instagram @sandraavelliWatch it here: https://youtu.be/slrPzO-ijAUGet in touch and share this episode @sarahparker_bb

In this episode, we talk to a client to a client who wants to be more social. Schedule a FREE 1-2-1 Zoom Call with David Here: https://go.oncehub.com/DavidHulman1/ Enjoying the Daily Podcast? Leave a 5 Star Review Here: https://ratethispodcast.com/selfbeliefchief 10% Off BetterHelp Therapy Here: https://betterhelp.com/selfbeliefchief #ad The Self-Belief Chief Podcast is a show for anyone who wants to live their best life. We talk to & about real clients who are interested in all things #self-improvement, #motivation, #success, #mindset, #relationships, #happiness, #love, #health, #wealth, #personaldevelopment, #wellness, #spirituality, #productivity, #self-help, #learning, and #growth.

In this episode, Scottish comedian, Fern Brady joins us in the The Vulnerabilitea House. In pulling the card “how would your ambitions change if you only had one year to live?”, Fern shares a very recent story, after receiving a terrifying phone call from her doctor. Fern also discusses being diagnosed with Autism in her 30s, 20 years after telling a doctor she thought she was Autistic.  Fern talks with with great insight and humour, not only about life since her diagnosis, but what it was like living for 30 years with Autism and not knowing - always feeling different to the average person…yet having no idea why. She's an all round brilliant human and we know you are going to love this conversation as much as we did!  To watch the full episode on YouTube click here: https://youtu.be/-DLkVQj8N34 To purchase Fern's book, 'Strong Female Character', follow this link: https://bit.ly/4aSot20. To see Fern's Comedy special on Netlfix follow this link: https://bit.ly/49AkQNp. And you can see Fern's hilarious promo featuring her dad, here https://bit.ly/3vVRb3a There are still tickets available Fern's antipodean Live tour “I gave you milk to drink”. Tickets still available in Sydney https://bit.ly/49usjgM, & NZ https://bit.ly/3TYM0r9. To learn more about the Hidden Disabilities Sunflower Lanyard Fern talks about in this episode, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3Q466iC You can purchase the book Aspergirls by Rudy Simone here https://bit.ly/3QmYKXZ, and you can stream Six Feet Under here https://bit.ly/3TTZRiD. To try Sam Harris's meditation app you can follow this link: https://bit.ly/4d7HrUz Or to read his book Lying, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3vGDHIK To see Susan Boyle's Britain's Got Talent Audition, follow this link: https://bit.ly/3VTeKUY The Imperfects is not a licensed mental health service and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice, treatment or assessment. The advice given in this episode is general in nature, but if you're struggling, please see a healthcare professional, or call lifeline on 13 11 14.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sarah welcomes Sara Bradley AKA Small but Mighty to The Beyond Condition Podcast. Sara has climbed the ranks of bodybuilding and has a wealth of experience and knowledge to share with the listeners.Sara doesn't hold back on sharing many truthful insights about her life as a competitor, a person and an online physique coach. Discussions include:*Amateur and professional bodybuilding*Categories and criteria*Competing internationally*Coaching relationship*Building your support network and relationships*Environment and personal progression*Dealing with conflict*The different phases as a competitor*Performance enhancing drugs*Socialising as a bodybuilder*Post show*Social media and external pressure*Scale weight and body imageFind Sara on Instagram @smallbutmighty20Watch it here: https://youtu.be/z1xedWMJqlUGet in touch and share this episode @sarahparker_bb

In this episode, UK's leading Psychologist, Wendy Dignan, talks about social anxiety. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, we talk about to a client who is struggling to socialise with others due to a lack of confidence. Schedule a FREE 1-2-1 Zoom Call with David Here: https://go.oncehub.com/DavidHulman1/ Enjoying the Daily Podcast? Leave a 5 Star Review Here: https://ratethispodcast.com/selfbeliefchief 10% Off BetterHelp Therapy Here: https://betterhelp.com/selfbeliefchief #ad The Self-Belief Chief Podcast is a show for anyone who wants to live their best life. We talk to & about real clients who are interested in all things #self-improvement, #motivation, #success, #mindset, #relationships, #happiness, #love, #health, #wealth, #personaldevelopment, #wellness, #spirituality, #productivity, #self-help, #learning, and #growth.

This series has been written and created to support you in your first month of sobriety, whatever the time of year. There will be one episode released every day covering key topics in sobriety but also other areas of mental health using Louisa's knowledge as a Cognitive Behavioural Hypnotherapist.It's day 5 and today Louisa has gathered together advice and tips from the sober community on social media regarding socialising sober and how to navigate your first sober weekend if you're going out.Head to Amazon and Audible for Louisa's audiobook 'Becoming a Sober Rebel' if you would like to find out more about her pathway to sobriety and to learn the tools and techniques she teaches her clients.Head to www.herefordshirehypnotherapy.co.uk to find out more about Louisa's work as a therapist and hypnotherapist where you can also find self hypnosis downloads on all subjects including ones to help you in your sobriety journey. Use code SOBERREBEL to buy one get one free on all hypnosis recordings as a sober rebel listener.

SummaryIn this episode, Jessica Pan discusses her book 'Sorry I'm Late, I Didn't Want to Come' and her journey of embracing extroversion. As we discuss on the show, Jessica is almost the opposite to me – she's an introvert who learnt to be more extraverted, whereas I started exploring Alonement as a means of dealing with my fear, as an extrovert, of being alone. She tells me about her journey to embrace solo travel, socialising with strangers and making new friends, all with the help of her 'extrovert mentors'. What this following episode touches on is the importance of balance and choice around how we spend our alone time, plus how learning to integrate more connection in your life can help you fall back in love with your solitude. We also touch on the loneliness of big cities, particularly London, and how Jessica has managed to curate her own tiny village within the UK capital. Jessica also talks about starting her Substack newsletter, It'll Be Fun, They Said, based on part-time job working in a local independent bookshop. Finally, she shares her favourite kinds of alone time, which involves reading by the ocean and journaling in a cafe.TakeawaysEmbracing alone time can be a luxurious and fulfilling experience when it is a choice.Working in a bookshop can be enchanting and provide opportunities for meaningful connections with customers.Journaling is a valuable tool for self-reflection and understanding one's thoughts and feelings.Solo travel can be challenging but can also provide opportunities for personal growth and self-discovery.Having extrovert mentors can provide guidance and support in navigating social situations.Chapters00:00Introduction and Background02:21Different Journeys, Same Goal03:42The Fluidity of Introversion and Extroversion04:10The Pleasure of Working in a Bookshop05:31Starting the Substack Newsletter06:30Choosing Pleasure and Storytelling08:25The Enchantment of Working in a Bookshop09:50The Joy of Working in a Bookshop10:46The Aspirational Lifestyle of Working in a Bookshop11:02Balancing Work and Alone Time12:57The Privilege and Prison of Being Alone13:57Choosing to Be Alone14:25The Nuance of Enjoying Alone Time15:24The Universal Loneliness Problem16:48The Counterintuitive Decision to Be an Extrovert17:18The Loneliness of Metropolitan Life19:10The Surprise Solo Travel Experience23:12The Challenges of Solo Travel25:08The Benefit of Extrovert Mentors32:50Favorite Extrovert Adventures36:36Gaining Compassion for Introverted Parts40:05Tips for Spending Time Alone45:27Appreciating Introverted Parts of Yourself46:26Creating a Village in the City49:21Curating a Community51:17Creating Connections52:15Favourite Alone TimeThank you to our season sponsor Sensate, a palm-sized infrasonic stress and anti-anxiety device. Visit getsensate.com/alonement for 10% off your first device.You can follow Jessica Pan's Substack at jesspan.substack.com, and my own at francescaspecter.substack.com With a one-off payment of £5, you can listen to the Alonement podcast ad-free. https://plus.acast.com/s/alonement. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Whether you've got a family event, party, christmas gathering or even a date coming up, the fear of the conversation drying up & having no way out is VERY real. So how do we nail mingling & turn it into a core skill rather than something that brings us out in a cold sweat? Fear not - I've called in the professionals for this one. Jeanne Martinet is an expert in it - in fact so many people asked her for her advice that she wrote a book about it & she's now the author of The Art of Mingling alongside a whole host of other books. CONNECT WITH US Connect with That's Helpful & Ed Stott on Instagram. Find Jeanne on Instagram & via her website. BOOKSThe Art of Mingling Mingling with the Enemy: A Social Survival Guide for Our Politically Divided Times Want to become a podcast sponsor, got some feedback for me or just fancy a chat? Email me - edwina@edstott.com

Christmas means socialising. Socialising means drinking (well for us reprobates anyway) and you don't want to be that guy that falls foul of the drink-driving laws. So we look at the beers you can enjoy without having to call an Uber. We taste tested 6 Non-alcoholic beers to see how they stack up against their foamy alcoholly cousins. We have to say that 3 of them we were really quite impressed with... 2 though, we had high hopes for and were seriously underwhelmed. Go grab yourself a cold alcohol free beer, kick back and enjoy. Did you know that you can get 20% off your order at ollys-ollys.com (UK orders only) by using the promo code TALLBOYRADIO at checkout. The opening music is "London Bayou" by Oscar Albis Rodriguez and the closing music is "BDS" by Lewis Pickford. tallboyradio.com

If you're reading this you're a hero! Comment “I am autistic!” so I can notice you! Not Hiding in Plain Sight: Girls With Autism Spectrum Disorder (2018), but Autism in Females: How is it Different? | Kati Morton, but Why is Autism in Girls Missed?, but Autism Documentary: Inside the UK's only school for autistic girls or any other video like Seattle Children's, Kati Morton, Talk Mental Health by Dr Beth Colby, Channel 4 News would make. This is a video where The Aspie World (AspieWorld1) Autism In Girls (Socialising Info YOU Need To Know) --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theaspieworld/support

After a break over the summer, the LIFECAST is back! This week, we're joined by past guest Mike Bates, co-founder of The Next 45. On this week's episode we covered: Opening up with your mates Socialising without alcohol Midlife crisis purchases & signs Should we mock a midlife crisis? Is a midlife crisis a sign of struggle? Stronger men (emotionally) create stronger relationships NXT 45 For more information on NXT 45, click the link below: https://www.nxt45.com/ Join us on Patreon for our "Topic Suggestions", Betting Show, Bonus Episodes and all of the other Patreon Perks... https://www.patreon.com/legitpodcast   Shout out to our sponsors... VIR Clothing | https://www.virclothing.com Type in LEGIT25 for 25% off Prepped With Passion | https://preppedwithpassion.co.uk Type in LEGIT15 for 15% off Pro Hormones | https://pro-hormones.co.uk Type in LEGIT for 10% off   Follow us on Social Media: Leg It Podcast https://twitter.com/thelegitpodcast https://www.instagram.com/thelegitpodcast Andy https://twitter.com/AndyGbootneck https://www.instagram.com/andygbootneck

Experts say we can all benefit from rituals. So, how can we all make them a part of our day? We're using tips from Ezra Bookman, founder of Ritualist, to get you comfy with little rituals. Like the podcast? Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify! It helps us reach more like-minded/cool/smart people like you! LINKS Read ‘Can Rituals Help Workplace Culture? Ritualist's Founder Explains.' From Entrepeneur.com Listen Sass and Something from our writer Amy Molloy Follow @sassandsomething on Instagram CREDITS Host: Casey Donovan @caseydonovan88 Writer: Amy Molloy @amymolloy Executive Producer: Anna HenvestEditor: Adrian WaltonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On today's Intrigue Outloud news rundown, Intrigue co-founder John Fowler joins to break-down the big outcomes of the G20 Summit in India, and to provide an update on tensions between Armenia and Azerbaijan in Nagorno-Karabakh.Make sure to sign up for our special UN General Assembly newsletter!

On this episode, Kate and Rachel sit down with Laurence Stevenson, Head of Sales at Sixes Social Cricket, which is a UK-based competitive socialising brand that offers a high-energy game of cricket alongside food and drinks for the ultimate activity-based experience. Commonly known as eatertainment in the States, competitive socialising combines activity with top-notch food and beverage, to create a unique hospitality experience under one roof. Competitive socialising has skyrocketed to success in the UK market especially and continues to grow in popularity in the US. We chatted with Laurence about the competitive socialising business model; Sixes as a brand; the draws to competitive socialising for corporate and social groups; differing consumer demands between the UK and the US; and much more about the benefits of competitive socialising. Check out Sixes Social Cricket on their website and Instagram pages for the UK and the US!

Picture the immense amount of energy invested in analyzing your emotional responses to every social interaction, striving to decipher not only your own feelings but also how the other person perceived the conversation. Or imagine navigating through life with a constant undercurrent of irritability and anxiety, yet lacking a clear understanding of their origin. These experiences only represent a small fraction of what people with alexithymia may experience. Alexithymia, which in simple terms is difficulty identifying and describing emotions, is a trait that is often associated with autism and ADHD, however despite the fact that one-in-ten people in the general population have this trait (not just Autistic people), there are still many misconceptions about what it is, who it really impacts, and how it shapes their experiences and relationships. Dr. Megan Anna  Neff, an AuDHD psychologist with alexithymia, states that a lot of things that have been attributed to autism, for example, difficulty with emotion recognition on faces or voice, are actually due to alexithymia, not autism.  In this episode of Divergent Conversations, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, talk with guest, Thomas Henley, an Autism consultant, public speaker, workplace trainer, and podcast host of “Thoughty Auti Podcast”, about all things alexithymia. Top 3 reasons to listen to the entire episode: Understand what alexithymia is, how is it related to autism and ADHD, and some common attributes associated with autism that are strongly linked to alexithymia. Identify the ways that alexithymia affects emotional regulation and the ability to connect with others on a deep emotional level. Learn what strategies and therapeutic approaches individuals with alexithymia can use to help facilitate emotional regulation and deeper connections with others. Alexithymia affects many individuals in the general population, so taking the time to recognize and understand the traits, challenges, and experiences associated with alexithymia, can help facilitate deeper connections with others, self-acceptance, and healthy ways to manage overwhelming emotions and situations. Alexithymia Resources Alexithymia articles on neurodivergent insights: https://neurodivergentinsights.com/blog/category/Alexithymia Alexithymia workbook: https://neurodivergentinsights.com/neurodivergentstore/p/alexithymia-workbook Dr. Neff's Alexithimia Training: https://learn.therasmarts.com/courses/Alexithymia More about our guest, Thomas Henley: My name is Thomas Henley, I'm an Autism consultant, public speaker and workplace trainer running the Worlds Top podcast ‘Thoughty Auti Podcast', all about Autism & Mental Health - independently presented, edited and promoted by my Autistic self. I'm also a Commonwealth/British champion in Taekwondo, Biomedical Sciences (Hons) graduate from UoM, Autistic Model, documentary creator of ‘Aspergers In Society' & ambassador for Anna Kennedy OBE & Born Anxious. I was diagnosed Autistic at 10 years old and later developed severe mental health conditions at the age of 14 due to trauma at Secondary School - Clinical Depression, GAD, Bulimia & multiple Dissociative disorders. Most of my content focuses around the low quality-of-life statistics for autistic people, such as mental health, social isolation, unemployment, education, relationship difficulties & self-harm in all forms. I've delivered this information to the government, leaders in SEN education, and the general public through my outreach and social media work. My passion is to help people, it's my meaning to life, my saviour for helping me stay around. My ultimate goal is to improve things for future generations who may just experience the same awful things I have.  My content is informed from many angles. During my time at university, I also studied and researched into Autism, Mental Health, Sociology, Psychology, Socialising, Relationships & Philosophy. I also used to be Special Needs TA, I work alongside charities regularly, talk to researchers, Autistic influencers, authors & parents regularly on my podcast, and currently work full-time for a National Inclusion charity. Check out Thomas' resources and content: Thomas' Website: https://thomashenley.co.uk/ Thoughty Auti Podcast (Spotify): https://open.spotify.com/show/6vjXgCB7Q3FwtQ2YqPjnEV?si=BjFjTN9RRm-mG5r4kmxmVQ  Twitter: https://twitter.com/ThomasHenleyUK  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThomasHenley  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashenleyuk/  TikTok (@thomashenleyuk): https://www.tiktok.com/@thomashenleyuk   Transcript PATRICK CASALE: Hey, everyone, you're listening to another episode of Divergent Conversations Podcast. I'm your cohost, Patrick Casale, joined today by Dr. Megan Neff, and Thomas Henley, who is the host of the Thoughty Auti Podcast. So, guest number one on our podcast.  And Megan and I just released on Friday, and the response has been fantastic, feedback has been fantastic. And we're both overwhelmed as hell, is that right Meg? MEGAN NEFF: Yeah, that's right. We were talking before on air how we're both in scatterbrain today. So, that'll make for a fun conversation or something. PATRICK CASALE: Yep. And I definitely just, like, steamrolled through the intro and didn't even let Megan introduce herself, so sorry. MEGAN NEFF: I know. I was like leaning in too, but actually, I- PATRICK CASALE: Thank God I saw it. I'm sorry for that. Thomas, we appreciate you being here and just making the time. We know you're six hours ahead of me and nine hours ahead of Meg. And I think we're going to talk about alexithymia today. And I think we're also going to talk about whatever the hell is going on in our lives and making us feel so scattered. So, thank you for being here. THOMAS HENLEY: Of course, I think you might have mentioned it, but I wasn't totally aware that I was your first guest on the podcast. So, I'm honored very much, so… PATRICK CASALE: No pressure whatsoever. Megan, alexithymia is a topic that is near and dear to your heart. You talk about it often on your Instagram account, Neurodivergent Insights. And you have tons of resources. So, I would love for you to start us off with why it feels important and why we're talking about that today. MEGAN NEFF: Yeah, yeah. Okay, I'll try to pull thoughts together, cohesion. Here we go. Yeah, so I think it's a really relevant topic to autistic and ADHDers, particularly, just because we tend to be more impacted by it.  So, first, just to do my, like, definition of terms, and then go into it, it's actually not a diagnosis. Sometimes people will DM me about like, how do I get diagnosed with this? It's not a diagnosis, it's a personality trait. And it's fairly common. One in 10 people have it. And it's difficulty identifying and describing emotions.  So, one in 10 people in the general population have it. Among autistic people, it's about 50% or higher. And then among ADHDers, you know, these studies, there's so much variance, but I've seen, like, between 20 to 45%. And then even those who don't have like, full threshold, they have more alexithymic traits.  And this really makes things like emotion regulation, connecting with other people on kind of that deep emotional level a lot more difficult.  The other interesting thing about alexithymia is that a lot of things that have been attributed to autism, like difficulty with emotion recognition on faces, or voice, empathy, which autism and empathy is a whole topic, that's huge. All these things, they've done studies, and when they pull out autistic people with alexithymia, and autistic people without alexithymia, autistic people without alexithymia are doing as well as the control group.  So, a lot of the things that we've said that's an autistic thing is actually… that's a severe alexithymia thing. So, that, to me, when I read that I was like, this explains why so many people aren't getting diagnosed, for one.  For two, when a person is autistic with alexithymia there's some higher support needs around emotional regulation, emotional identification. I actually have alexithymia. Because of my training, I would say I now have pretty mild alexithymia and I've figured out how to adapt to it. But I definitely see how difficulty identifying emotions through my life has led to some hard stuff. So, yeah, that's the clinical definition.  Thomas, I'm curious to hear, like, you're really interested in this topic. Where did that curiosity come from? THOMAS HENLEY: I think it's because I have quite a bit of a history with like, emotions. Like, ever since I was very young I was pretty much fascinated by neurotypicals. I was kind of doing, like, the reverse autism specialist thing. I had the fascination of neurotypical people.  And I remember from, sort of, early days, sort of, at school, I would look at people around me, people, particularly, during like high school, secondary school age, and they would be doing things with no reason or rhyme to why they're doing it, but they just seemed to have something in their brain that, like, flicked a switch, and then they went, and did something.  I now know that, you know, for example, things like dancing, it's not a social display that you're like, "I'm going to do a social display." It's a thing that you do because it feels good, and people feel driven to do things that feel good.  And I found that really confusing because I used to analyze the reasons behind a lot of my decision-making. And I think it's, I was reading a book recently, I can't remember the reference, but they were talking about how emotions can be quite a big feed into how we make decisions. So, it could be something as simple as food. You know, you eat something, and then you like, no, you're picking between, like, a cupcake, and like some protein pancakes, and you model eating both of those in your brain, detects how you feel from eating those in that model, and then kind of use your emotions to probably get the cupcakes.  So, I think there's a lot of depth to it and a lot of the issues that I had, particularly, in secondary school was emotional dysregulation, a lot of mental health difficulties, but also, not really as much of an ability to notice when my anxiety or my depression was getting worse, and, you know, psychologist's, therapists, they'd give me these anxiety worksheets, but the issue with that is that you first got to know that you're in your anxious [CROSSTALK 00:06:44]. MEGAN NEFF: Exactly, exactly. Yeah, yeah, I talked about that when I do trainings on this of, like, we go from like one, or two, to 10, or at least that's our experience, we're not actually doing that. But we're not picking up, you know, that like emotion thermometer or that stress thermometer, we're not picking up the subtle increase. And so, that's what leads to those big emotional outbursts. They can also look very, like, borderline or bipolar, which is another reason that I think we get misdiagnosed because it's so hard to regulate your emotions if you're not registered, and you're angry, or stressed, or anxious till it's out of 10. PATRICK CASALE: Yeah, and then society's kind of perceiving you, and not how you're attending to react to things as well, and that inability to regulate is so challenging in social situations, but it's challenging in a lot of environments like in the workplace, for example. Like, if you're unable to identify your emotions, that can lead to a lot of workplace conflict as well. And I think that's another reason that we see so many neurodiverse people struggling with neurotypical jobs and environments, is just they're not set up to be successful in a lot of ways and they're not set up to be affirmative. THOMAS HENLEY: It's quite key for, like, enforcing boundaries and stuff like because a lot of people they kind of get a… someone says something that makes them upset, or angry, they kind of get a bit of an emotional jolt to kind of be like, "Hey, actually, that's not okay." Whereas, in a lot of cases in my life, and, you know, from talking to other people, it seems that we just kind of take it, and then we go away and think about it, and come back like a week later, a couple of days later like, "Actually, hey, this isn't good." And I think it can sometimes lead a lot of neurotypicals to not really trust, like, our reactions to things in, like, the present. MEGAN NEFF: Yeah, that is so well said. It can cause so much relationship confusion because the person with alexithymia whether you're ADHD, autistic, or neurotypical, like, we need that space to process, I think. So, reflective emotions is when we're bringing in our prefrontal cortex.  I think a lot of us overcompensate for the fact that we're not feeling those more in-the-moment fleeting emotions by becoming really good at reflective emotions. But that takes time and space. And often, we can't do that in an emotionally charged space. So, like, if we're having a, for example, emotionally charged conversation with our partner, we're going to have a really hard time accessing our emotions in that moment until we take some space, and especially, if your partner's more anxiously attached, that space is going to feel like abandonment. And this is where I see a lot of relationships kind of go off the rails, is that dance that kicks up around that. PATRICK CASALE: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. And I think, you know, you and I are both in the mental health profession. So, I think there's advanced training that goes on behind the scenes, right? Where we're like, okay, now we're starting to identify these emotions, now I'm starting to become more familiar with how I'm feeling, and experiencing, how I'm moving through the world.  Not everyone has that luxury, and privilege, and ability to do, so I think it becomes very murky, very confusing. And that's where you start to see a lot of dissociation, and disconnection, and that really frustration, isolation, loneliness paradox that kicks in in social environments. And I think that is so fucking hard for people when it feels so painful to identify what is really happening beneath the surface. MEGAN NEFF: Mm-hmm (affirmative.) THOMAS HENLEY: I think one of the best ways that I found it to like describe what it's like to be electrifying to neurotypicals is like a threshold-related condition. Like, most people, if we put a quantitative number on anxiety levels from like zero to 100, you know, perhaps a lot of neurotypicals they'd be able to tell within the 20 to 50% range that they are at a certain level of anxiety whereas when you're autistic, and you have alexithymia that might be 70, 80, 90%.  And a lot of those strategies that we learn to calm ourselves down, I found the most use in like preventative things and like blanket approaches to solving when I was younger, and I didn't really understand it.  And it also led to, as he was saying about sort of disassociation, I actually did a lot of reading about it. And it was something that I noticed even when I was very young. And so, I looked into that kind of thing and I was like, "Hey, I have situations in my life where, for some reason, in 10, 15 minutes I feel like a completely different person, I feel differently in my body, I perceive the world differently, I behave differently, I must be a different person." And so, I looked into this dissociative identity disorder, and I was like, "Hey, this is actually what's happening." Because I couldn't feel the emotion. And I had to, like, go through, and just look at all the science, and the terminology, and the philosophy behind different emotions, and really trying to embed that in order to understand it in the future.  But I used to have, like, different colors, which, obviously, the colors were related to emotions. But at that time, it just didn't click for me at all. MEGAN NEFF: I think that captures something really important. Yeah, and it's interesting. Like, I don't know what is dissociation, what is alexithymia here, but one thing I notice among autistic people, in general, is a much more, like, fragmented view of self.  And so, when you describe that of like, looking into DID… Like, that's actually, I feel, like probably pretty common for a lot of autistic people to look into DID or I'm seeing a lot more about plural systems now because it can be such a fragmented experience when we can't access our emotions, even more so. PATRICK CASALE: Megan, I'm curious about, just in your own life, when you're experiencing alexithymia and kind of the identification, like you're mentioning being fragmented, right? You and I have talked about fragmentation a lot and just feeling so, like there's so many pieces here, and you can always identify or connect them, and how that really is, you know, showing up these days for you, in terms of like, you've built an audience, you've built a presence, you, obviously, have such a wonderful reputation. And I know you and I talk of this off the air about like, when you're feeling really heavy or like when you're really in that space of teaching and researching it can be disconnecting from how you're experiencing day-to-day too. MEGAN NEFF: I actually think I feel the most connected when I'm in my head. And that's part of the problem is it's so hard to be in my body, which I've talked about plenty. So, when I'm in research flow or writing I feel like the most like myself. It's all the other places I occupy that I'm… And right, like that's actually a really common experience with special interests. We often feel most like ourselves when are immersed in our special interest.  PATRICK CASALE: Absolutely.  MEGAN NEFF: And can access emotions. Like, I see that with my clients, when we start talking about special interests, there's an animation that pops up. Like, we access emotions more easily. Thomas, you were about to say something. THOMAS HENLEY: Yeah, I just find it interesting you're talking about, like, feeling fragmented because before I came across the concept of alexithymia I did a video and like a post called like, My Split Brain. And it was, basically, talking, I found this book called, I think, The Monkey Mind.  MEGAN NEFF: Yeah, yes.  THOMAS HENLEY: Which is, yeah. And I really- MEGAN NEFF: Go ahead and explain it though because I know what you're talking about, but our listeners don't. THOMAS HENLEY: Yeah, it's like, basically, splitting your brain into, sort of, the higher cognitive kind of prefrontal cortex that uses intellectual things, and logic, and facts, and things to dissect and understand your environment whereas the monkey mind is the emotional brain, like things related to like the amygdala, and drives, and desires, and needs that are important to survival.  And the whole book is kind of about framing it as that you do have kind of these two pulling forces. One is like your willpower and your, I guess, more human side. And the other side is like the emotional kind of monkey side.  But I found that really interesting. And I felt like it was probably one of the first things that I related to, in terms of thinking about my emotions because I did feel for a long time that I just couldn't, like facts, and dates, and events just seem to be like, ridiculously hard to connect them in my brain. Even if they are apparently clear, the feelings that I have from that event don't feel like they connect with that.  And so, I'll got a lot of situations where I've had really bad experience during the day. And then for some reason, I'll just be alone, I feel a bit anxious, and I feel a bit down. Now, why is that happened? And, obviously, I know that something bad's happened in the day, but it just doesn't immediately link. It's like after connecting neuro- MEGAN NEFF: Yeah.  THOMAS HENLEY: …pathways together. MEGAN NEFF: Yeah, it's not an automatic process. It's like, okay, I've got to analyze. Yeah, yeah. When I started therapy, like five years ago, one of the things my therapist said to me was like, "You are so like analytical or like, aware." But almost, it wasn't a criticism, but it was a curiosity of like, and it was an interesting moment for me. Like, isn't everyone doing this all day long? Just like analyzing the shit out of their day, trying to figure out why am I feeling this way? And that was a really interesting moment for me because I could tell he was struck by like, how analytical I was about my experience. PATRICK CASALE: It would be nice to know what it would be like to move through the world without analyzing every experience and thing that fucking happens to me, that would be fantastic. It would feel like a yes, maybe, like a pressure relief in a way. But it's just so challenging to move away from that. Like, I have to analyze everything. I'm constantly, like you said, Thomas, can try to connect like, where's this anxious feeling coming from? Oh, yeah, this thing happened to me today, or this thing happened yesterday. And now it's creating these feelings that I can't always associate together. And then, ultimately, it leaves you a bit confused because you can recognize the somatic sensation in your body of like, "I'm feeling anxious." Where is this coming from? Like, why is this feeling so intense right now? Oh, yeah, this thing happened six hours ago. That should create anxiety, but in the moment was not able to connect the dots. THOMAS HENLEY: And that is quite a heavy tendency for, I think, autistic, maybe even neurodivergents as well, but I can only speak from the autistics' perspective, that it is kind of hard to make those… God my brains gone. MEGAN NEFF: Oh, we get it. THOMAS HENLEY: What were you saying, Patrick?  PATRICK CASALE: Oh, just connecting those dots, you know, and those associations where-  THOMAS HENLEY: Yes.  PATRICK CASALE: Yeah. THOMAS HENLEY: It's gone on me, sorry. PATRICK CASALE: That's okay. I think, you know, this is actually nice to see while we're all sitting here because the three of us mentioned we're all feeling a bit scattered today. And it's interesting, like, we're having a very real experience around this conversation. And I can see Megan being very deep in thought when I'm talking, and I'm paying attention to that at my peripheral.  But, you know, I think, there's a paradox for me as a autistic ADHDer where association with emotion, and feeling and trying to name it and define it versus like, constant sensory seeking and stimulation seeking, and like, really trying to seek out that intensity as well, and then trying to like connect the dots with intensity seeking to soothe the anxiety in your body. It's really an interesting experience for me. And soccer has been so helpful. Thomas, I know you're really into fitness for that, probably, a similar reason. And [CROSSTALK 00:21:37]-  THOMAS HENLEY: … proprioceptive stimming. PATRICK CASALE: I know, I know. I was talking to Megan about proprioceptive stim the other day and needing to have my, like soul, and body crushed back into my body, and how often I feel the need for that. I asked my wife to do that the other day, and she looked at me, and was like, "The fuck are you talking about?" And I was like, "I just need you to do it. Like, I'll explain it to you later. But I need you to do that." And I think that's a very, very typical experience for me on almost a daily basis. THOMAS HENLEY: I think that there is a tendency sometimes… I've remembered what I was going to say. I think that there's a tendency sometimes with autistic people that we need to know the reasons for things. And sometimes in a lot of cases you don't always need to now. Like, it could be useful in some cases to know why you're feeling a certain way. And sometimes it might just be, you know, good to just chalk it up to possible stresses, like mental health or so, where it plays things being too productive, not getting enough rest due to special interests.  And I think sometimes getting in my head about how I'm feeling stops me from like focusing on other things that I'm doing, that are helping with my stress, and my emotions. So, unless I'm feeling sort of a deep, aching issue, or that, you know, it's perhaps related to a relationship or a friendship, or if I'm having quite bad mental health crises or lows, then it's useful for me to go for and pick that. So, there's that. And I also think that creator autism from the inside, we were talking about alexithymia on my podcast, and we were saying that can be quite a large burden for using your, like, higher cognitive brain to do things that are quite simple, or quick, or emotional based like social communication. So, it really made me kind of think about, you know, like, how much effort am I putting into situations that don't really matter in the grand scheme of things? That kind of mentality. MEGAN NEFF: I really like how you're balancing kind of the autistic need to know because I agree that's super regulated when I can pinpoint to like, oh, this is why I'm feeling that way. I say it calms my amygdala down, just calms everything down.  THOMAS HENLEY: Fixated at the core. MEGAN NEFF: But balancing out... What did you say? THOMAS HENLEY: Fixated at the core. MEGAN NEFF: Yes, yes.  THOMAS HENLEY: It's the reason that everything will be okay. It's like when you get really stressed about finishing a task on the computer and the programs aren't working. It's like, really easy to get that done, and then, you'll be okay whereas sometimes [CROSSTALK 00:24:45]- MEGAN NEFF: Well, I think it's [INDISCERNIBLE 00:24:56] partly because it just produces uncertainty. Like, it's like, okay, I can track why I'm feeling that way. But what I really like is how you balance it with acceptance.  For me, in my training to become a psychologist, I probably did a bulk of my training in motor therapy called acceptance commitment therapy or ACT, which is all about kind of accepting our emotions. It doesn't mean we have to like them, but accepting they exist and then asking, "Okay, but how do I continue to move toward what matters to me, to move toward my values?" And that was probably one of the best things for my anxiety, was learning an element of acceptance. It was yes, sometimes I can locate like, okay, my routine's off, this, that's why I'm anxious today. Other times I can't and it is about that, "Okay, how am I going to hold this and live with this and continue to move toward what matters to me and not let it completely derail my day?" THOMAS HENLEY: It's prioritization, I think, the way you put your energy and so… MEGAN NEFF: Yeah. PATRICK CASALE: Yeah, I think you make a great point, Thomas, about that because I do think a lot of autistic people are using a ton of cognitive energy to really figure out meaning behind everything. And it's just unbelievably exhausting.  And Megan, you and I have talked about, like, replenishing, and trying to like recharging and being able to soothe, but sometimes it's really challenging to replenish that energy, and then you're playing catch up all the time. And I think that's why so many of us are just going through the world feeling really, really exhausted all the time.  And I like your example, Megan, with acceptance and commitment therapy, and, you know, I've talked about, like, IFS, as well, internal family systems. And that has been very helpful for me to have like parts work because I can't always identify what's happening in the moment, or what I'm experiencing, or how I'm feeling. And if we're getting really cognitive, I really can't identify it then. But if I can break it into parts, like a part of me is feeling overwhelmed, and it's okay for that to show up, and I'm going to accept that, and I don't need to find out the meaning of why. I just need to accept that it exists.  And there are other parts of me that are feeling okay or feeling more grounded. And that's been pretty remarkably life-changing, if I'm being really honest about it like that work has been so tremendously supportive in the last few years. THOMAS HENLEY: I think it was really important to mention the aspect to, like, the certainty around things because I feel like it's kind of weird because if you study neurotypicals, like I have, and just discovered this, like, so obsessed with understanding what's going on in their brains, I think there's a lot of situations where we give ourselves a hard time for not understanding certain things. Like, neurotypicals tend to talk a lot about things like read the room, and understand the hidden meaning, and understand things just from the flow of the conversation.  But from my experience, particularly, in the workplace, or within friend groups, a lot of people that you talk to individually after those big sort of group conversations, they have completely different ideas of what's gone on. And I felt like, you know, we do have that drive to try and find that certainty out, specifically, like, around emotions and social things which are inherently so uncertain and emotional. It can be kind of hard for us. And it's kind of one of those things that I think a lot of neurotypicals they go with what they feel from the situation. And then, that's the truth.  But compare and contrast each person in a certain group conversation, it's completely different. It's just that we like to know exactly what happened, and exactly what people are wanting, and exactly what they're trying to say. MEGAN NEFF: There's a TV show called The Affair. I don't know if either of you have watched it, but I've found it so interesting because… and I think there's maybe a few shows that do this, but they, like, really lean into it, the first season, at least, where you see this exact same episode but from different people's perspectives.  And so, like, the characters will be wearing different clothes and different people's memories. And it's just so interesting, that idea of subjectivity, of everyone's experience of the same conversation, and then how it encodes in memory is wildly different, which is, frankly, terrifying for me. And someone who is anchored in like facts and logic of like, how did you get that from this conversation? But brains are weird. And the way we experience something is so heavily filtered by our past experiences, our beliefs, our biases. It's wild and terrifying. THOMAS HENLEY: Definitely agree.  MEGAN NEFF: Like, all of us are going to walk away from this 40 minutes we spent together with different memories, different experiences. PATRICK CASALE: And probably our own different- THOMAS HENLEY: Perspectives. PATRICK CASALE: Yeah, exactly. Different perspectives and interpretations, right? Because I'm the type of person who will walk away and analyze like, was that a good conversation? Did it feel meaningful? Did I show up the way I wanted to show up? All of those things will be running through my mind the rest of the day. So, yeah, it's just really interesting. Brains are weird. MEGAN NEFF: I'll actually be having similar questions. I'll also be like, why was I so foggy during that conversation? What was happening? Like, I'll also be thinking about, like, the relational dynamics, but also like, will that be it? Was that cohesive enough for a podcast? Was that a meaningful experience for Thomas? Was that worth his time to have him on? Yeah. PATRICK CASALE: Yeah, yeah. THOMAS HENLEY: I can confirm for [INDISCERNIBLE 00:31:17] certainty that it's a meaningful experience. I love chatting to you. And it's really nice to chat to you Patrick, as well. PATRICK CASALE: Thank you. Is this our awkward transition goodbye time because that's how I'm reading the interview [INDISCERNIBLE 00:31:32]. THOMAS HENLEY: I don't know how you guys wrap things up, so- PATRICK CASALE: We don't always- MEGAN NEFF: Do we want to say anything about where to find Thomas' work? And then wrap up? PATRICK CASALE: Yeah, Thomas, if you'd love to share with the audience where they can find you or what you're doing in the world, and what you're putting out there. THOMAS HENLEY: Sure, you can find my podcasts, the Thoughty Auti Podcast on YouTube, Spotify, any of the podcasting streaming services, or you can check out my Instagram page @thomashenleyuk where I make daily posts and about two reels a day, autism related. PATRICK CASALE: Your Instagram account is awesome. I mean, I found your stuff because Megan was on your podcast, and shared some of that, and I was watching, and really, really cool stuff, a lot of information, a lot of humor thrown in which I really enjoy, and a lot of really cool perspective. So, really appreciate just being able to have this time together and spend the last 40 minutes talking about all of this. THOMAS HENLEY: Thank you very much, Patrick.  PATRICK CASALE: You're welcome. THOMAS HENLEY: I appreciate that. PATRICK CASALE: To everyone who is listening to the Divergent Conversations Podcast, new episodes are out every single Friday on all major podcast platforms. Like, download, subscribe, and share. And goodbye.