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Like-Minded Deviants with Dr. Lindy Backues, Jon-Michael Odean, and Justin Stewart-Fritz is a podcast that seeks to deviate from the norm. As two of Lindy’s former graduate students, Justin and Jon-Michael bring an extended friendship with him cultivated

Dr. Lindy Backues, Justin Stewart-Fritz, Jon-Michael Odean


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    A Language for Growth: Attempting to Name the Mystical

    Play Episode Play 55 sec Highlight Listen Later Aug 25, 2022 55:49


    In previous episodes we have suggested the importance to push beyond deconstruction into a process of reconstruction.  We believe such a move to not only be possible, but helpful.  What does such a move look like?  How can we talk about it, what sort of language best helps us to identify such a disruptive yet exciting process?Join us in this episode as we focus on the sort of speech that can help us better understand the process of deconstruction and reconstruction, outlining the helpful "messiness" that characterizes the non-binary speech we recommend for helping us understand the wonderfully mystical process of deconstruction and reconstruction.

    Evangelicalism Part 5: Moving to Reconstruct through Streams of Mysticism

    Play Episode Play 52 sec Highlight Listen Later Jun 22, 2022 57:22


    Over the course of this season, we have been making a case for deconstruction of the traditional Evangelical faith system. We have been saying that healthy moves and progress are often found as one throws off the legalism and the surveillance mentality found in much of American Evangelical faith systems. Maturity can result in the loss of a person's cherished Evangelical faith system, landing the journeyer in a place of skepticism, doubt, and secularism. As we have said, this can be a move toward health and growth. However, there is still room to move on through secularism/skepticism toward a position of mysticism, wonder, and humility. We describe what that can look like, leaning on our own journeys as examples of that type of progress.In this episode we attempt to tease out three potential forms that mysticism can take: (1) classical mysticism, (2) post-modern/post-Evangelical mysticism, and (3) mysticism that finds conceptual funding and inspiration in moves toward liberation and a focus on the poor.Have a listen to see if this makes sense.  We think it does.  We also feel it might give listeners inspiration to identify other forms of humble mysticism, a maturing move toward mystical and humble connections with the divine.So, join us as we discuss the path towards reconstruction on a journey to mysticism from skepticism and speak about how that process has played out in our lives!Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.comAs always we want these to be informed by YOU, so let us know what you think, send us your thoughts, and we may even try a few! 

    Evangelicalism Part 4: Deconstruction Continued; Moving from Fundamentalist to Secularist, Arriving at the Mystical

    Play Episode Play 60 sec Highlight Listen Later May 17, 2022 61:12


    Deconstruction is a word that one finds floating around in Christian circles quite a bit lately.  For some, the term promises liberating possibilities, an open door allowing fresh air into a context that has long felt stifled.  For others, the deconstruction process is dangerous, something that provokes deep anxiety, a move that threatens an unnecessary (and perhaps heretical) dismantling of valuable, historic non-negotiables at the heart of the Christian faith.With that in mind, in this episode, we invite YOU along for a closer look at the deconstruction process.  We explore some of its connotations and we welcome the journey it entails.  We dive below the surface, peeling back some of the layers found in the idea, complete with insight into why deconstruction is often necessary, what is involved, and how it might be approached in a healthy manner.  We hope this discussion invites new questions and new insights for those who are curious about helpfully, and faithfully, navigating the deconstruction process.Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.comAs always we want these to be informed by YOU, so let us know what you think, send us your thoughts, and we may even try a few! 

    Evangelicalism Part 3: Deconstruction

    Play Episode Play 60 sec Highlight Listen Later May 2, 2022 56:08


    Get ready for part 3 of our Evangelicalism series where JM, JSF, and Dr. Lindy Backues discuss deconstruction in light of our context in Evangelical America today.  This conversation ranges from discussing why deconstruction can sometimes be healthy to a deep dive into the phenomenon itself in with helpful language to make sense of its natural place within a faith journey. As always we want these to be informed by YOU, so let us know what you think, send us your thoughts, and we may even try a few! Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com

    Evangelicalism Part 2: What's up with "Christianese"? The language of Evangelicalism in America; why it matters and the baggage it brings.

    Play Episode Play 53 sec Highlight Listen Later Mar 18, 2022 52:32


    Join us for our first Friday release for the second episode in the "Evangelicalism" module, where Lindy, JSF, and JM dive deep into a conversation on "Christianese" in America today (yes we know--very "meta'). It is commonplace knowledge that how we as humans talk and the language we use affects how we see the world around us.  In short, the language we use helps shape the way we experience life.  An offshoot of this is – especially for those of us from the Evangelical world – the language we use easily ends up walling us off from real life, prompting us to offer simplistic answers to difficult questions.  Worse yet, it often prohibits us from admitting when our language does not match the reality we encounter.  We often come off to others as being phony and afraid to discuss topics of deep importance.  In this episode, we take a look at how this works, and then we broaden our conversation to include a deeper look at the way we live.  We conclude that we must learn to speak more clearly, be more transparent, and open up more fully to important – even challenging – facets of life, especially those related to our relationship to God through Jesus.  In short, we must avoid using religious platitudes or holy words that cloud sincere attempts to understand the puzzles of our world, even when that sort of speech uttered or a life lived makes us uncomfortable.As always we want these to be informed by YOU, so let us know what you think, send us your thoughts,  we may even try a few! Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com

    Evangelicalism Part 1: Examine the Lens. What is it? Where's your starting point?

    Play Episode Play 53 sec Highlight Listen Later Mar 1, 2022 51:59


    Welcome back for season 2 of the Like-Minded Deviants Podcast! We begin season 2 with the first in our multi-episode module on Evangelism. In this episode, we take a biographical and personal look at what has come to be called Evangelicalism in the West--predominantly the cultural phenomena in the United States.  Where did it come from?  What was it in response to?  What did it do?  How has it changed?  JM and JSF give us some insight into their own family histories as they have woven in and out of the history of Evangelicalism over the last several decades.  Lindy throws into the mix of this history, baggage, and mix of blessings an older but somewhat different perspective that he has experienced.As always we want these to be informed by YOU, so let us know what you think, send us your thoughts,  we may even try a few! Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com

    Season 2 preview! New Episodes Soon.

    Play Episode Play 30 sec Highlight Listen Later Feb 15, 2022 6:16


    Join us for our Preview for season 2 of Like-Minded Deviants as we loop you in for a few program updates, and release schedule as we get set for season 2!  We are so excited to be back and look forward to our first module releasing in the near future!We have been so excited by the response to our podcast and we want these to be informed by YOU, so let us know what you think, send us your thoughts,  we may even try a few! Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com

    The Answer: The Church...Christian Community as a Counter Force?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2021 48:09


    Throughout this season we have arrived at the idea that the Church is not in itself the Reign of God, but the Reign of God is both its starting point and its goal. So that leads us to the question, how does the Church (as God's idea) address the ‘crackedness' of the cosmos (the problem of evil we explored at the beginning of the season)?  How does it ‘dramatize' and manifest grace, love, justice, and the dream of God? Join us this week in our final content episode of the season (paired with a Bar-Talk episode) as we examine the call of the Christian Community as a Counter Force and an active participant through actionable grace in the narrative of The Pathetic God.Hendrik Berkhof, Christ and the Powers. Translated by John Howard Yoder, Harrisonburg, Virginia: Herald Press, 1977 (ISBN: 978-0-8361-1820-9).David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context. Second Edition, Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4).Stephen Charles Mott, Biblical Ethics and Social Change. Second Edition, New York: Oxford University Press, 2011 (ISBN: 978-0199739370).Readings: ‘The Church and the Powers', Berkhof, Chapter 5‘Salt, Light, Deeds' and ‘Thy Kingdom Come', Gushee & Stassen, Chapters 10 & 17'The Church as Counter-Community', Mott, Chapter 7**Also Check out our BONUS EPISODE! BAR Talk: The conversation after class and on-tap. Reflecting on the season... and what comes next!**Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com

    BONUS EPISODE! BAR Talk: The conversation after class and on-tap. Reflecting on the season... and what comes next!

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2021 67:34


    Join us for our last episode of the first season – appropriately themed Bar-Talk episode as we reflect on the season as a whole, its impact on us, and what we have in store for season 2. In these episodes we connect for a lower key/more relaxed conversation, what we like to call, the conversation after the class! So feel free to grab a drink and join us!As a bonus episode, we want these to be informed by YOU, so let us know what you think while we have some fun and take a few liberties with the format of these episodes! So check out our contact info below and send us your ideas and we may try a few! Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com

    Toolbox Episode! Macro-Economics Part 2: A Theological Critique and the Environmental Crisis

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 14, 2021 52:39


    Join us for the second part, and main conversation in our "Toolbox"* episode, where we delve into a theological engagement and critique of Macro-Economics, our Metaphors, the environmental crisis, Globalization, Internationalization, and The Pathetic God.Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com*Note: Each Toolbox episode pairs with a shorter "Toolbox" mini-episode, on for a short lecture unpacking or describing the particular topic  of each "Bookshelf" episode. Think of the "Bookshelf" to Theory and "Tool Box" as praxis.

    Bookshelf Episode! Macro-Economics Part 1: What Is It?

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 14, 2021 22:27


    Join us for a new "Bookshelf" mini-episode for a quick and dirty "Lindy-Notes" lecture on Macro-Economics.  Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com*Note: Each Bookshelf episode pairs with a longer "Toolbox" episode, engaging each topic through a theologically critical lens. Think of the "Bookshelf" to theory and "Tool Box" as praxis. 

    Toolbox Episode! Socialism Part 2: A Theological Critique

    Play Episode Play 54 sec Highlight Listen Later Sep 7, 2021 48:52


    Join us for the second episode of our new "Toolbox"* where we delve into a theological engagement and critique of Socialism and The Pathetic God.Bob Goudzwaard, Capitalism and Progress: A Diagnosis of Western Society.  Grand Rapids, Michigan: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 1979 (ISBN: 978-0853647706).David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context. Second Edition, Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4).Donald A. Hay, Economics Today: A Christian Critique. Vancouver: Regent College Publishing, 2004 (ISBN: 978-157383284).Readings:‘Socialism and the Planned Economy', Hay, Chapter 5‘Treasures on Earth: Economic Ethics in the Kingdom Way', Gushee & Stassen, Chapter 18‘The Socialist Countermovement', Goudzwaard, Chapter 7Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com*Note: Each Toolbox episode pairs with a shorter "Toolbox" mini-episode, on for a short lecture unpacking or describing the particular topic  of each "Bookshelf" episode. Think of the "Bookshelf" to Theory and "Tool Box" as praxis.

    Bookshelf Episode! Socialism Part 1: What is it?

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 7, 2021 21:12


    Join us for a new "Bookshelf" mini-episode for a quick and dirty "Lindy-Notes" lecture on Socialism.Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com*Note: Each Bookshelf episode pairs with a longer "Toolbox" episode, engaging each topic through a theologically critical lens. Think of the "Bookshelf" to theory and "Tool Box" as praxis. 

    Toolbox Episode! Capitalism Part 2: A Theological Critique

    Play Episode Play 39 sec Highlight Listen Later Aug 31, 2021 50:09


    Join us for the first of our new "Toolbox"* For a theological engagement and critique of Capitalism and The Pathetic God.Ellul, Jacques, Money and Power.  Second Edition, Downers Grove, Illinois: Inter-Varsity Press, 1984 (ISBN: 978-0877849162).David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context. Second Edition, Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4).Donald A. Hay, Economics Today: A Christian Critique. Vancouver: Regent College Publishing, 2004 (ISBN: 978-157383284).Readings:‘The Capitalist Market Economy', Hay, Chapter 4‘Treasures on Earth: Economic Ethics in the Kingdom Way', Gushee & Stassen, Chapter 18‘Money', Ellul, Chapter 3Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com*Note: Each Toolbox episode pairs with a shorter "Toolbox" mini-episode, on for a short lecture unpacking or describing the particular topic  of each "Bookshelf" episode. Think of the "Bookshelf" to Theory and "Tool Box" as praxis.

    Bookshelf Episode! Capitalism Part 1: What Is It?

    Play Episode Play 38 sec Highlight Listen Later Aug 31, 2021 18:56


    Join us for the first of our new "Bookshelf" mini-episode for a quick and dirty "Lindy-Notes" lecture on Capitalism. Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com*Note: Each Bookshelf episode pairs with a longer "Toolbox" episode, engaging each topic through a theologically critical lens. Think of the "Bookshelf" to Theory and "Tool Box" as praxis. 

    Principles for Economic Life: Stewardship

    Play Episode Play 35 sec Highlight Listen Later Aug 24, 2021 53:03


    In the Church today there is confusion as to how storied, biblical truth might be translated into principles, themes, and motifs that later can be applied to the world that surrounds us.  Like finding a common note in a song, or a common image in a story, we can locate repeatedly appearing images, ideas, or themes running throughout the biblical story, ones that can help us evaluate the economic and political world around us.In this episode we explore a particular, overarching concept we believe to be at the center of biblical resource management, something that needs to be at the center of all economic systems – Stewardship.To fit the flow of conversation we have been having so far, our overarching image will need to agree with the topics examined in previous episodes: grace, love, justice, and the kingdom of God.  In future episodes, we will use this approach to evaluate the dominant, overarching economic systems available in the world today, i.e., capitalism and socialism.Texts:David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context. Second Edition, Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4).Donald A. Hay, Economics Today: A Christian Critique. Vancouver: Regent College Publishing, 2004 (ISBN: 978-157383284).Readings:  ‘Christianity and Economics: Theological Ethics', Hay, Chapter 2 ‘Treasures on Earth: Economic Ethics in the Kingdom Way', Gushee & Stassen, Chapter 18Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com

    The Kingdom of God

    Play Episode Play 46 sec Highlight Listen Later Aug 17, 2021 60:54


    What is the goal of all of this?  Where was Jesus headed?  If we are to offer grace as God offered grace, if we are to love in a way that aligns with the Cross, if we are to be just in a way that frees the chains of the poor, how does that fit with the message of the gospel, the message that Jesus came to preach, the core of the message found in the New Testament?The core of that message can be found in the phrase ‘The Kingdom of God' – but, as Christian persons who often claim to know about the teachings of the New Testament, we very seldom focus on this central concept.  Why is that?  Why do we find ourselves so ignorant of the central idea that Jesus came emphasizing? In this episode we try to hone in on this concept so that we might find out what the phrase means, and why it matters to us as we try to live lives in the shape of Jesus.Texts:David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context, 2nd Edition, Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4).J. Andrew Kirk, Good News of the Kingdom Coming: The Marriage of Evangelism and Social Responsibility, InterVarsity Press, 1983 (ISBN: 978-0877849384).Stephen Charles Mott, Biblical Ethics and Social Change. Second Edition, Oxford University Press, 2011 (ISBN: 978-0199739370).Howard A. Snyder, Models of the Kingdom,  Wipf and Stock, 2001 (ISBN: 978-1579107017).Readings:‘Jesus Began to Proclaim: The Reign of God', Gushee & Stassen, Chapter 1‘Why the Tide Has Turned', Kirk, Chapter 3‘The Long March of God', Mott, Chapter 5'Models of the Kingdom: Sorting Out the Practical Meaning of God's Reign', Snyder (https://www.jstor.org/stable/43052383)Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com

    Justice Part 2: Tangible Justice!

    Play Episode Play 43 sec Highlight Listen Later Aug 10, 2021 64:14


    Justice is a concept, a concept that can be very theoretical and abstract.  But, we must ask ourselves, what does justice look like?Justice - like everything else we examine  -  must look like Jesus!  Jesus came to fulfill justice proactively, in community, so that we might live and participate in a way that is dynamic, actively toward the fringes and margins of the system, so that those who have previously been excluded by the system might taste participation in the community.  In order for that to happen, we must overturn the tables of our definitions, dismantling the static structures of ‘justice', which actually are very unjust to the poor. Come Deviate with us, as explore it means to corporately embody the sort of justice we are speaking about here, as we embrace the Christomorphic shape of justice we find in the picture of Jesus.Texts:David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context, 2nd Edition, Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4).Donald A. Hay, Economics Today: A Christian Critique, Regent College Publishing, 2004 (ISBN: 978-157383284).Stephen Charles Mott, Biblical Ethics and Social Change. Second Edition, New York: Oxford University Press, 2011 (ISBN: 978-0199739370).Readings:‘Weightier Matters of the Law: Justice', Gushee & Stassen, Chapter 7‘God's Justice and Ours', Mott, Chapter 4Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com

    Justice Part 1: What Is It?

    Play Episode Play 39 sec Highlight Listen Later Aug 3, 2021 50:32


    The word justice appears in a lot of places in the biblical record.  As a community seeking to follow the pattern of Jesus – a community attempting to live in a way that is Christomporphic, that is ‘in the shape of Jesus' – we must put the idea of justice as central to our understanding of the good news as did Jesus.The trouble is, though, we often do not know what justice is.  We often see justice as a ‘one-size-fits-all' rule that everyone needs to obey equally.  The idea of justice needs to be parsed and better understood. Come deviate with us as we seek to better understand what justice means, especially in light of the call to those who feel prompted to follow a pathetic God.Texts:David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context, 2nd Edition, Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4).Donald A. Hay, Economics Today: A Christian Critique, Regent College Publishing, 2004 (ISBN: 978-157383284).Stephen Charles Mott, Biblical Ethics and Social Change. Second Edition, New York: Oxford University Press, 2011 (ISBN: 978-0199739370).Readings:‘Weightier Matters of the Law: Justice', Gushee & Stassen, Chapter 7‘God's Justice and Ours', Mott, Chapter 4Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com

    Love?! What Does That Even Look Like?!

    Play Episode Play 45 sec Highlight Listen Later Jul 27, 2021 51:58


    So many of our popular songs, hit movies, favorite poems, social media spin around us the notion of love.  We all teach about love, sing about love, long for love, shoot--we even cry out for love! That being so, surely we must know what love is, right?!  No doubt, we got love down, don't we, since we seem obsessively focused on it almost all of the time? Not so fast! Let's be real, WE know, that YOU know, that we really mean different things when we say, ‘we LOVE tacos' and ‘we LOVE our significant other' .We think the problem might not be that we are so unfamiliar with love - instead, might we not be too familiar with it? If that is so, how might we recognize the kind of love that the gospel story describes about what God in Jesus did for us?  Is love even the best way to describe what we find in the gospel story?  Come Deviate with us and start the conversation! Texts:David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context, 2nd Edition, Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4).Donald A. Hay, Economics Today: A Christian Critique, Regent College Publishing, 2004 (ISBN: 978-157383284).Richard B. Hays, The Moral Vision of the New Testament: Community, Cross, New Creation, A Contemporary Introduction to New Testament Ethics, HarperOne, 1996 (ISBN: 978-0060637965).Readings:‘The Greatest Commandment: Love', Gushee & Stassen, Chapter 6‘Three Focal Images: Community, Cross, New Creation', Hay, Chapter 10Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com

    Grace: Response Ethics to the Divine Act

    Play Episode Play 45 sec Highlight Listen Later Jul 20, 2021 48:58


    Episode 8 – Response Ethics to the Divine Act (Grace)In this episode we begin to address the problems (of evil) that we looked at in previous episodes.  If we take our previous conversations seriously, we will notice we are a bit stuck – in fact, if left to ourselves, we seem completely screwed.  There seems no way out – our systems are fallen, our cosmos and the world we live in has fallen and, perhaps most daunting, we ourselves are deeply cracked, broken, and we represent a huge part of the problem.  What can we do?The good news is, we have not been left to ourselves.  That is the whole point of the story of God, the one centered on the birth, the life, the death, and the resurrection of the God-man, Jesus.  The incarnation where God became human represents a costly move on God's part, as we already have said, an antidote that we hope (and we believe) matches the gravity and depth of the problem.  God acted first – in undeserved mercy and grace toward the whole mess, in a costly manner with skin in the game; thus, there is nothing we must or even can do to add to that, except to respond to the acts from God in Christ in a way that matches God's extravagant risk in the face of evil and death.  In a word, if God acted in such an unreserved way and then extended an invitation to us, the only response we now owe to God is to act toward others in the same way God acted toward us.  In short, we must ‘...act in a way that shows who we now are, who we have become, what it is that God has done for and in us.'  We must radically include others in our company because God radically included us in God's company.  That is the pattern – a model that sets the tone for everything we will say in future episodes in this series.  We have a word for what we are looking for – the term is ‘Christomorphic'.  We try to define and unpack this odd word in this episode, in a way that hopefully gives us a picture of what God has done for us and in us in Jesus.Texts:David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context. Second Edition, Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4).Donald A. Hay, Economics Today: A Christian Critique. Vancouver: Regent College Publishing, 2004 (ISBN: 978-157383284).Stephen Charles Mott, Biblical Ethics and Social Change. Second Edition, New York: Oxford University Press, 2011 (ISBN: 978-0199739370).David F. Wright, editor, Essays in Evangelical Social Ethics. Exeter: Paternoster Press, 1979  (ISBN: 978-0199739370). Readings: ‘Law & Prophets: Authority and Scripture', Gushee & Stassen, Chapter 3‘Using the Bible in Ethics', I Howard Marshall in Essays in Evangelical Social Ethics, Chapter 2‘God's Grace and Our Action', Mott, Chapter 2Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com

    Epicurean Redux!

    Play Episode Play 40 sec Highlight Listen Later Jul 13, 2021 43:05


    Epicurean Redux: The Pathetic God?!  We take a renewed look at the Epicurean dilemma: what needs to give?  Is God loving but not powerful?  Is God powerful but not loving? Neither loving or powerful?  Is there another option?  How does this Christian God suffer the existence of evil?Richard Bauckham, God Crucified : Monotheism and Christology in the New Testament. Grand Rapids, Michigan: Wm B Eerdmans Publishers, 1999 (ISBN: 978-0802846426)Richard Bauckham, 'In Defence of the Crucified God,' Evangel: The British Evangelical Review 9:1, 13-16,  1991.David J. Bosch, 'The Vulnerability of Mission', Baptist Quarterly, 34:8, 351-363, 1992 (DOI: 10.1080/0005576X.1992.11751898).David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context. Second Edition, Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4).Donald A. Hay, Economics Today: A Christian Critique. Vancouver: Regent College Publishing, 2004 (ISBN: 978-157383284).Stephen Charles Mott, Biblical Ethics and Social Change. Second Edition, New York: Oxford University Press, 2011 (ISBN: 978-0199739370).Readings: 'God Crucified: The Divine Identity Revealed in Jesus', Bauckham, , Chapter 3'In Defence of the Crucified God,' Bauckham, Evangel: The British Evangelical Review‘The Vulnerability of Mission ', Bosch, Baptist Quarterly‘Biblical Faith and the Reality of Social Evil', Mott, Chapter 1**Also Check out our BONUS EPISODE!  Bar Talk: The conversation after class (and on-tap)!**Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com

    BONUS EPISODE! BAR Talk: The conversation after class and on-tap!

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 13, 2021 56:26


    Join us for our first (of many) Bonus Episodes. This time we connect for lower key/more relaxed conversation, what we like to call, the conversation after the class--and this time in a much-enjoyed bar talk! So please, go grab a drink and join us!As a bonus episode, we want these to be informed by YOU, so let us know what you think while we have some fun and take a few liberties with the format of these episodes! So check out our contact info below and send us your ideas and we may try a few! Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com

    Evil: Hardwired and Baked In

    Play Episode Play 40 sec Highlight Listen Later Jul 6, 2021 42:40


    Evil is not merely personal; it is also systemic and structural and outlives us all.  Wickedness is tied to and enshrined in our laws and governmental structures.  What should God do about that?  What should we do about that?  What does all of this mean for those of us who wish to be good?Texts:David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context. Second Edition, Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4).Donald A. Hay, Economics Today: A Christian Critique. Vancouver: Regent College Publishing, 2004 (ISBN: 978-157383284).Stephen Charles Mott, Biblical Ethics and Social Change. Second Edition, New York: Oxford University Press, 2011 (ISBN: 978-0199739370).WH Vanstone, The Stature of Waiting. First Edition, Fayetteville, NC: Morehouse Publishing, 2006 (ISBN: 978-0819222114).Walter Wink, The Powers That Be: Theology for a New Millennium. New York: Doubleday, 1999 (ISBN: 9780385487528).Readings: ‘Biblical Faith and the Reality of Social Evil', Mott, Chapter 1Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com

    The Evil Acts of God

    Play Episode Play 40 sec Highlight Listen Later Jun 29, 2021 51:00


    Evil is bigger than humanity - seeing as how there is a cosmic side to evil, how should we fit that into our theology?  Here we take a broader look at the brokenness of creation and the problem this presents for those of us who wish to stand before a just God.Texts:David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context. Second Edition, Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4).Donald A. Hay, Economics Today: A Christian Critique. Vancouver: Regent College Publishing, 2004 (ISBN: 978-157383284).Stephen Charles Mott, Biblical Ethics and Social Change. Second Edition, New York: Oxford University Press, 2011 (ISBN: 978-0199739370).Walter Wink, The Powers That Be: Theology for a New Millennium. New York: Doubleday, 1999 (ISBN: 9780385487528).Readings: ‘Biblical Faith and the Reality of Social Evil', Mott, Chapter 1Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com

    Epicurean Paradox: Evil Exists!

    Play Episode Play 51 sec Highlight Listen Later Jun 22, 2021 57:17


    We've got a problem that is bigger than evil.  We look around and evil exists - but what do we do with God in the face of evil?  This episode dives rather deeply into this dilemma that has haunted thinkers for millennia.  If there is evil, how can a loving God stand by?  If there is evil, how can a powerful God be loving?Texts:David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context. Second Edition, Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4).Donald A. Hay, Economics Today: A Christian Critique. Vancouver: Regent College Publishing, 2004 (ISBN: 978-157383284).Stephen Charles Mott, Biblical Ethics and Social Change. Second Edition, New York: Oxford University Press, 2011 (ISBN: 978-0199739370).Walter Wink, The Powers That Be: Theology for a New Millennium. New York: Doubleday, 1999 (ISBN: 9780385487528).Readings: ‘Biblical Faith and the Reality of Social Evil', Mott, Chapter 1Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com

    The Nature of Truth

    Play Episode Play 30 sec Highlight Listen Later Jun 15, 2021 51:07


    In the West, we have long been taught that truth is found in objective, universal data points, independent formulas and equations.  Christian theological views of truth challenge that assumption, with storytelling serving as the bedrock of what we can and should know.Texts:David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context. Second Edition, Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4).Donald A. Hay, Economics Today: A Christian Critique. Vancouver: Regent College Publishing, 2004 (ISBN: 978-157383284).Readings: ‘Christianity and Economics: Biblical Foundations', Hay, Chapter 1‘Blessed Are You: Virtues of Kingdom People' and ‘Moral Structure in the World: The Form and Function of Moral Norms', Gushee & Stassen, Chapters 2 & 4Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com

    Pilot: Welcome to the Community of Like Minded Deviants

    Play Episode Play 30 sec Highlight Listen Later May 18, 2021 43:02


    Welcome to the Like Minded Deviants (LMD) Podcast!In this episode, Jon-Michael, Lindy, and JSF talk through what LMD is, why they are passionate about this project, and what is to come.David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context. Second Edition, Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4).Donald A. Hay, Economics Today: A Christian Critique. Vancouver: Regent College Publishing, 2004 (ISBN: 978-157383284).Contact Us!Twitter: @PodLmdFacebook: facebook.com/LMDPodWeb: lmdpod.buzzsprout.comEmail: lmdpod@gmail.com

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