Out of Beta

Tap, tap. Is this thing still working? Matt has some news to share with the listeners.

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change.MattPeterSummitReform

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change.MattPeterSummitReform

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change.MattPeterSummitReform

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change.MattPeterSummitReform

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change.MattPeterSummitReform

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change.MattPeterSummitReform

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change.MattPeterSummitReform

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change.MattPeterSummitReform

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change.MattPeterSummitReform

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change.MattPeterSummitReform

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change.MattPeterSummitReform

In this episode, Matt and Peter share an update on Summit and Reform with the listeners. They also share what the future plans are for the podcast. Is this the last episode?

Matt feels the effects of going truly viral on Twitter and now half the internet thinks he is a Twitter 10x engineer (and half think he is a comedian). Peter's Tailwind gig comes to a close so he's thinking about what's next with Reform. This episode also brings the current Out of Beta season to an end, as Matt and Peter take a short break. They'll be back.Sponsor - RecastThank you to this month's sponsor, Recast, a tool that helps podcasters turn long form video and audio content into short clips for social media, like TikTok, Instagram and Twitter. Import your podcast episode and select the part of the transcript you'd like to use, then, Recast will generate your clip for you.Recast are offering something special for listeners of the show. They will make five free snippets of your podcast to the first three people that respond to the pinned Tweet of the Out of Beta Twitter account.Show Notes Sponsor - DebugBear: Monitor site speed and Core Web VitalsDebugBear continuously checks how long it takes to load your website and monitors the Core Web Vitals metrics that Google uses as a ranking factor. Test your website for free to get an in-depth analysis with recommendations to make your website faster.LinksMatt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startup

Peter finds he has 4 million test rows in his database and needs to do something about them without breaking everything, while he still tries to nail down how to position Reform. Who exactly is Reform for and how does he communicate that? Matt is bringing a series of bets to a close and making some important changes, such as a move away from usage-based pricing.Sponsor - RecastThank you to this month's sponsor, Recast, a tool that helps podcasters turn long form video and audio content into short clips for social media, like TikTok, Instagram and Twitter. Import your podcast episode and select the part of the transcript you'd like to use, then, Recast will generate your clip for you.Recast are offering something special for listeners of the show. They will make five free snippets of your podcast to the first three people that respond to the pinned Tweet of the Out of Beta Twitter account.Show Notes Sponsor - DebugBear: Monitor site speed and Core Web VitalsDebugBear continuously checks how long it takes to load your website and monitors the Core Web Vitals metrics that Google uses as a ranking factor. Test your website for free to get an in-depth analysis with recommendations to make your website faster.LinksMatt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startupDaniel Zarick's “Working In Bets” article

Peter reflects on the new integration with Less Annoying CRM, how a potential new Reform website would look like and his plans to double down on SEO. Matt is also seeing how SEO is having a positive effect on his rankings for Summit, while he figures out some more use cases for the calculators. Matt rounds off talking about his potentially controversial opinion on why startups of all sizes should have boards.Sponsor - RecastThank you to this month's sponsor, Recast, a tool that helps podcasters turn long form video and audio content into short clips for social media, like TikTok, Instagram and Twitter. Import your podcast episode and select the part of the transcript you'd like to use, then, Recast will generate your clip for you.Recast are offering something special for listeners of the show. They will make five free snippets of your podcast to the first three people that respond to the pinned Tweet of the Out of Beta Twitter account.Show Notes Sponsor - DebugBear: Monitor site speed and Core Web VitalsDebugBear continuously checks how long it takes to load your website and monitors the Core Web Vitals metrics that Google uses as a ranking factor. Test your website for free to get an in-depth analysis with recommendations to make your website faster.LinksMatt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startup

Peter has been away in the States, and quite liked his co-founder Bjorn taking care of support. Matt, meanwhile, has not been feeling much of a spark this week but brainstormed some new ideas for distribution.Sponsor - RecastThank you to this month's sponsor, Recast, a tool that helps podcasters turn long form video and audio content into short clips for social media, like TikTok, Instagram and Twitter. Import your podcast episode and select the part of the transcript you'd like to use, then, Recast will generate your clip for you.Recast are offering something special for listeners of the show. They will make five free snippets of your podcast to the first three people that respond to the pinned Tweet on the Out of Beta Twitter account.Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startupEmbarque - Reform's SEO Agency

Matt's Summit Chrome extension is live, meaning you can now get a calculator in just a click, and so he's exploring new calculators to use with it. Peter is still sick but is working through it by getting deep into customer research, figuring out the best customers for Reform. Both Matt and Peter have horizontal products, so they discuss how this both helps and hinders themSponsorInterested in sponsoring? Get in touch.LinksMatt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startupMatt's Chrome extension

After a brief break, Matt and Peter are back with the maker manager format. Matt's been building more calculators for Summit while kicking up the gears for sales and marketing. Peter's founder hiking retreat was a success and he is now instrategic thinking mode. What's next for Reform?SponsorThank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.LinksMatt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startupCaleb's Notes On Work where he talks about Peter's headless videoBob Moesta's Circuit Breaker podcast

This week, Peter is sick, but shows up to record the pod and talk Reform integrations, including one upcoming with Less Annoying CRM. Not being at 100% highlights why having a good cofounder can make a big difference. Matt is in the final stages of getting his Summit Chrome extension live, so is figuring out how he gets distribution for the app, which will include a Summit Free Calculator marketplace.SponsorThank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta.Listen to the Eduflow story here:Part 1Part 2Part 3Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.LinksMatt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startupThe Unbundling of Zapier articleStartup to Last episode

This week, Matt is working like a mad scientist to build a Chrome extension that will essentially eliminate onboarding for new Summit calculator users. Peter is running on low sleep, which is causing a bit of a creative bottleneck for Reform. He wants to keep the momentum after Reform's recent marketing wins and is sponsoring three newsletters in one week.SponsorThank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.LinksMatt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startup

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.This is the third part of three, where we tell the story about Eduflow. It's a crazy startup story with many unexpected twists and turns. If you like startups, you'll enjoy this one.Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startup

Matt has recently been focusing on top of funnel traffic for Summit and his free example calculators have been doing that very job. He's on the look out for more ideas (like the FIRE calculator). Peter is trying to figure out how to fix Reform's growth plateau. It seems launching a few new features and a discounted annual deal has got things moving in the right direction.SponsorThank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.LinksMatt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startup

It's been a big launch week for Matt and Peter. Matt launched the new version of Summit with its new positioning, along with a different approach to their pricing model (goodbye unlimited freemium, hello usage-based). Peter has also been busy with Reform, shipping a host of new features that should take the product to the next level. Saving progress, CRM integrations and more means Reform can compete with the incumbents, while maintaining the minimalist aesthetic.SponsorThank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.LinksMatt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startupAcquired.fm Amazon episodeProject Kamp YouTube

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.Matt and the Summit team have soft launched the new Summit website and the reception has been very positive. Besides getting ready for the big launch, Matt has been busy slinging calculators over the Summit counter. Peter is busy with his two jobs (running the Tailwind CSS job board and running Reform), but him and Bjørn are continuing to build on the momentum they've felt recently.Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startup

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.Peter is firing on all cylinders while also being aware that he's working more than is sustainable long term. Matt continues to find good traction for Summit's new calculator positioning when sharing the product publicly.Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startup

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.This is the first part of three, where we tell the story about Eduflow. It's a crazy startup story with many unexpected twists and turns. If you like startups, you'll enjoy this one.Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startup

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.Matt is starting to find serious traction with Summit's new positioning as a low-code tool to build calculators for sales and marketing teams. Peter and Bjørn are having long phone calls brainstorming what's next for Reform.Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startupAdam Wathan's tweet about being the bestDes Traynor on the 20VC podcast

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.In this episode, Matt and Peter gets really into the weeds after reading Jason Cohen's latest essay The practical application of "Rocks, Pebbles, Sand".Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startupThe practical application of "Rocks, Pebbles, Sand"Part 1 of our interview with the founder of Eduflow

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.The weather is hot in Texas and Denmark, but that's no excuse not to work on your positioning! In this episode, Matt and Peter dive into a relatively technical discussion about serverless and headless, with the purpose of fine tuning the Summit positioning.Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startup

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.This is the first part of three where we tell the story about Eduflow. It's a crazy startup story with a lot of unexpected twists and turns. If you like startups, you'll enjoy this one.Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startup

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.Peter's got some big personal news this week that he just shared with his investors and ... Twitter! He's helping the Tailwind CSS team launch a job board for Tailwind CSS related jobs. Him and Matt discuss this move and how it will affect Reform.Matt and the Summit team have soft launched their big push into letting Summit modellers publish public apps based on their models. The new Summit marketing website is almost caught up to all the big product changes that have shipped lately.Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startup

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company)! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.Matt and the Summit team are close to the release date for all the stuff they've been working on with public-facing Summit apps. To show how powerful the new Summit is, Pieter built a proof-of-concept no-code app in Bubble that is powered by a Summit simulation underneath (see links below for tweet).Covid finally caught up to Peter last week, but he managed to launch Reform's ConvertKit integration before finally giving in to the disease. Him and Bjørn are working on the templates section of Reform.Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startupTweet of Summit's Bubble prototype

Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.Matt is back from France and Peter is back from Scotland. They are both eager to get back to work. Reform has soft-launched their ConvertKit integration and are planning to announce it very soon. Summit is getting closer to general admission where users will be able to launch public-facing apps and calculators on top of their Summit models.Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startup

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Feature Upvote (Product feedback and upvoting tool)! Overwhelmed with too much customer feedback coming from too many channels? Centralize your feedback in one online board. Users add and upvote feedback directly. Get 20% off Feature Upvote here.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.Before heading off on vacation, Matt and Peter recorded a marathon Q/A session answering all the questions they got from the listeners on Twitter. In this episode, you'll hear their answers to:How to avoid overcomplicating a product early on?Has it become hard to start a SaaS?How to think about marketing and growth early onAnd more!Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startup

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Feature Upvote (Product feedback and upvoting tool)! Overwhelmed with too much customer feedback coming from too many channels? Centralize your feedback in one online board. Users add and upvote feedback directly. Get 20% off Feature Upvote here.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.Before heading off on vacation, Matt and Peter recorded a marathon Q/A session answering all the questions they got from the listeners on Twitter. In this episode, you'll hear their answers to:What they would do differently if they were starting overWhat they would do if they traded placesHow their families view them running a startupAnd more!Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startup

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Feature Upvote (Product feedback and upvoting tool)! Overwhelmed with too much customer feedback coming from too many channels? Centralize your feedback in one online board. Users add and upvote feedback directly. Get 20% off Feature Upvote here.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.Peter launched Reform Free on Product Hunt and became the number two product of the day. A result that is better than he expected! However, the launch has left him exhausted.Matt is working through how all the latest Summit updates have impacted the positioning of the product. This obviously has a big impact on the new Summit website which is coming soon.Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startup

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Feature Upvote (Product feedback and upvoting tool)! Overwhelmed with too much customer feedback coming from too many channels? Centralise your feedback in one online board. Users add and upvote feedback directly. Get 20% off Feature Upvote here.This is a special episode with our sponsor this month, Feature Upvote. In this episode, Matt and Peter are tackling some questions and challenges that Steve, the founder of Feature Upvote, are facing in his bootstrapped business.

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Feature Upvote (Product feedback and upvoting tool)! Overwhelmed with too much customer feedback coming from too many channels? Centralise your feedback in one online board. Users add and upvote feedback directly. Get 20% off Feature Upvote here.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.Peter is optimistic about the early results of his SEO efforts and Reform's free plan, which has started to contribute a meaningful amount of traffic to Reform's website.Matt has had a busy period on the personal front, but the Summit team has been making some solid progress on the product while Matt has been occupied with graduation ceremonies, family visits etc.Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startup

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Whimsical (Docs, Flowcharts, Wireframes, Mind Maps, & Projects)! Get started for free. Sign up in seconds and start creating in Whimsical -- no credit card required. Create a free Whimsical account here.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.Peter is back from London where he went to MicroConf Local and attended the IndieBeers meet-up. Though the largest Reform customer recently churned, Peter has some optimistic news about Reform's churn. On the marketing front, Peter is working on SEO and an upcoming Product Hunt launch, while Bjørn is building a ConvertKit integration for Reform.Matt recently shared Summit's new presentation mode on Twitter, which made Summit "click" for several people - including Peter. By remixing some of the existing elements of Summit, the preview mode will soon allow Summit users to create apps on the platform that can be consumed by other end users - and they won't even have to know what Summit is.Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startupPeter, Bjorn & John - Young Folks

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Whimsical (Docs, Flowcharts, Wireframes, Mind Maps, & Projects)! Get started for free. Sign up in seconds and start creating in Whimsical -- no credit card required. Create a free Whimsical account here.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.After getting slightly derailed by a home construction project, Matt is back in gear working on getting Summit ready for general access. Him and the Summit team has been on a shipping spree and Matt has noticed that more and more "founder-level" conversations are happening within the company without his direct involvement.Peter is excited about May's SaaS metrics for Reform. He's heads down with marketing and thinking about Jobs-to-be-Done and features that could bring Reform further into the no-code / internal tools space.Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startupPeter's "SEO in a crowded market" post on Swipe Files (requires a membership)

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Whimsical (Docs, Flowcharts, Wireframes, Mind Maps, & Projects)! Get started for free. Sign up in seconds and start creating in Whimsical -- no credit card required. Create a free Whimsical account here.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.Matt and Ryan have been working on their investor update, including their new positioning for Summit. A seemingly simple question from one of his investors got Matt thinking more about the big picture of Summit's launch and go-to-market strategy.Things are going better for Peter. Trials are slightly up, and he's enjoying his daily routine. He and Bjørn are almost ready to release their highly requested tagging feature for Reform.Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startup

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Whimsical (Docs, Flowcharts, Wireframes, Mind Maps, & Projects)! Get started for free. Sign up in seconds and start creating in Whimsical -- no credit card required. Create a free Whimsical account here.This is the full version of Matt and Peter's conversation about Whimsical. Snippets from this episode will be published in our regular episodes.

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Whimsical (Docs, Flowcharts, Wireframes, Mind Maps, & Projects)! Get started for free. Sign up in seconds and start creating in Whimsical -- no credit card required. Create a free Whimsical account here.Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.Peter has had a rough week with illness, broken Redis servers, and a toddler starting daycare. He and Bjørn finally were able to say "Bye, Redis" and rely on a simpler, more stable setup for the Reform queue infrastructure. On the business front, Peter is heads down with marketing where he's working on SEO and an upcoming ConvertKit integration.Matt and the Summit team are taking some time to rethink how the new positioning for Summit is reflected in the product. They are working on a new big release where Summit will have its own version control tooling that opens up a lot of new opportunities for its users.Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startup

Thank you to this month's sponsor, SnapShooter (an awesome backup service)! Listeners get 50% off for 6 months when signing up with the coupon code "outofbeta".Thank you to our Show Notes sponsors:Mailman: Make your inbox, truly yours.Mailman allows you to control who can send you emails, and at what hours. Tame your inbox with Mailman - check out Mailman (and get 30% off the first year on annual plans).Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.Peter is considering starting a newsletter so he invited Louis Nicholls, founder of Sparkloop, on the show to share his knowledge about starting and growing newsletters. Louis previously ran "Sales for Founders" and today he is starting and growing Sparkloop, a tool that helps newsletter authors grow via word of mouth.Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startupLouis on TwitterSparkloopSales for Founders podcast feedSend & Grow by Sparkloop

Thank you to this month's sponsor, SnapShooter (an awesome backup service)! Listeners get 50% off for 6 months when signing up with the coupon code "outofbeta". Patio11's two threads about Snapshooter.Thank you to our Show Notes sponsors:Mailman: Make your inbox, truly yours.Mailman allows you to control who can send you emails, and at what hours. Tame your inbox with Mailman - check out Mailman (and get 30% off the first year on annual plans).Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.Peter is tired after a long night and day with a sick toddler and after announcing Reform's new Free plan and new pricing. He shares how the announcement went with the listeners. He also shares an akwkard bug that one of his Reform customers ran into. With Free out the door, he's ready to double down on marketing for the next couple of months.Matt has had a big breakthrough with the positioning for Summit and everything is starting to click. The new positioning sets the tone for the new Summit marketing site and the product roadmap ahead. One of the big features that him and the team are working on is versioning of Summit models which ties into some of the most requested features in the product. Matt also shares how he's thinking about using integrations to position Summit in the market.Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startup

Thank you to this month's sponsor, SnapShooter (an awesome backup service)! Listeners get 50% off for 6 months when signing up with the coupon code "outofbeta".Thank you to our Show Notes sponsors:Mailman: Make your inbox, truly yours.Mailman allows you to control who can send you emails, and at what hours. Tame your inbox with Mailman - check out Mailman (and get 30% off the first year on annual plans).Interested in sponsoring? Get in touch.Sorry for the poor audio quality in this episode - Peter is working on a new mic setup

Thank you to this month's sponsor, SnapShooter (an awesome backup service)! Listeners get 50% off for 6 months when signing up with the coupon code mentioned in the episode.Thank you to our Show Notes sponsors:Mailman: Make your inbox, truly yours.Mailman allows you to control who can send you emails, and at what hours. Tame your inbox with Mailman - check out Mailman (and get 30% off the first year on annual plans).In this episode, Matt shares some big bets he's planning on making for Summit, including hiring an agency to design and build a marketing website for the product. Peter soft launched Reform's freemium product and new pricing, but it wasn't all smooth sailing.Links:Matt on TwitterPeter on TwitterOut of Beta on TwitterSummit - Matt's startupReform - Peter's startup 

Matt is back from a ski trip in Colorado, which inspired him to model an entire ski resort in Summit. Peter shares some of the work he's been doing on the podcast and gets it on the record that he's about to make a big bet with Reform.

Matt and Peter share some of the behind-the-scenes planning of the next iteration of Out of Beta. Peter updates Matt on the current status of Reform's upcoming freemium version and Matt is about to launch the ability to write formulas based on Summit's simulation output.

With team members taking more and more off of his plate, Matt is able to spend more time on high-level thinking, such as the mission of Summit. Meanwhile, Peter is planning to roll out a free plan for Reform.