Perspectives: First Church San Diego Pastors Podcast

Join Rev. Hannah and Rev. Brittany’s fresh conversation in our series: “What We Really Mean When We Talk About …” This time, the female pastors look back to Genesis 1:2 to discuss the Holy Spirit, which may surprise some Christians, as we often think about the Holy Spirit coming on the scene at Pentecost in the Book of Acts. But the two reverends of First UMC of San Diego argue God’s Spirit is shown throughout the Bible and has been around since the beginning of time. Through this digital Bible study, the pastors talk about the Holy Spirit through a progressive theological lens in these ways: Whether there a difference between “the Spirit of God” and “the Holy Spirit” How the Holy Spirit is everywhere for everyone … not just Christians or humans in general The situation that prompted the ancient Jews to write Genesis What Genesis 1:2 and the Holy Spirit could mean for us today amidst the current chaos of our social climate Why we started and continue to try to contain the Holy Spirit and separate it from God It’s such a rich and interesting conversation but just starts to scratch the surface on everything that could be explored in relation to the Holy Spirit. So, we invite you to continue the conversation by our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: When you hear “Holy Spirit,” what comes to mind? How does Genesis 1:2 help us see the Spirit at work today—in the world and in people’s lives? These words were written in exile, to people who felt hopeless. How might they bring comfort to us when we feel powerless and abandoned? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There is also an optional paid membership that unlocks additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

Join Rev. Hannah and Rev. Brittany’s fresh conversation in our series: “What We Really Mean When We Talk About …” This time, the female pastors look back to Genesis 1:2 to discuss the Holy Spirit, which may surprise some Christians, as we often think about the Holy Spirit coming on the scene at Pentecost in the Book of Acts. But the two reverends of First UMC of San Diego argue God’s Spirit is shown throughout the Bible and has been around since the beginning of time. Through this digital Bible study, the pastors talk about the Holy Spirit through a progressive theological lens in these ways: Whether there a difference between “the Spirit of God” and “the Holy Spirit” How the Holy Spirit is everywhere for everyone … not just Christians or humans in general The situation that prompted the ancient Jews to write Genesis What Genesis 1:2 and the Holy Spirit could mean for us today amidst the current chaos of our social climate Why we started and continue to try to contain the Holy Spirit and separate it from God It’s such a rich and interesting conversation but just starts to scratch the surface on everything that could be explored in relation to the Holy Spirit. So, we invite you to continue the conversation by our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: When you hear “Holy Spirit,” what comes to mind? How does Genesis 1:2 help us see the Spirit at work today—in the world and in people’s lives? These words were written in exile, to people who felt hopeless. How might they bring comfort to us when we feel powerless and abandoned? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There is also an optional paid membership that unlocks additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

Join Rev. Trudy and Rev. Brittany as they kick off Season 3 with a fresh conversation series: “What We Really Mean When We Talk About …” Each week, the female pastors of First UMC of San Diego will be looking at different aspects of the Christian faith and breaking it down using a progressive theological lens. For this first conversation, they’re talking about the image of God, suggesting that instead of using the label “omnipotent” it would be more accurate to use the label “empowering”. It’s an interesting topic that uncovers the real challenge of describing God due to our personal biases, cultures, and language. They muse that humans tend to label and mislabel God in a way that boxes God in and diminishes its full complexity. As they move through the conversation, they discuss the various labels and images of God that irk them, talk about how they experience and see God, and end with the question of: What understanding of God is needed for the future? It’s a rich, complex topic that has so much to explore. We invite you to continue the conversation by our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: What childhood image of God still helps you in your faith? Are there questions of faith that might be resolved if you had a different image of God? What image of God would you suggest for people to embrace for the future? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There is also an optional paid membership that unlocks additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

Join Rev. Trudy and Rev. Brittany as they kick off Season 3 with a fresh conversation series: “What We Really Mean When We Talk About …” Each week, the female pastors of First UMC of San Diego will be looking at different aspects of the Christian faith and breaking it down using a progressive theological lens. For this first conversation, they’re talking about the image of God, suggesting that instead of using the label “omnipotent” it would be more accurate to use the label “empowering”. It’s an interesting topic that uncovers the real challenge of describing God due to our personal biases, cultures, and language. They muse that humans tend to label and mislabel God in a way that boxes God in and diminishes its full complexity. As they move through the conversation, they discuss the various labels and images of God that irk them, talk about how they experience and see God, and end with the question of: What understanding of God is needed for the future? It’s a rich, complex topic that has so much to explore. We invite you to continue the conversation by our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: What childhood image of God still helps you in your faith? Are there questions of faith that might be resolved if you had a different image of God? What image of God would you suggest for people to embrace for the future? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There is also an optional paid membership that unlocks additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

Join Rev. Trudy and Rev. Brittany as they wrap up Season 2 of our digital Bible study podcast by leaning into Hebrews 13 to talk about courage and its connection to radical hospitality. The two female pastors of First UMC of San Diego discuss the complicated history behind the New Testament book of Hebrews. It’s scripture written to the early church at a time where Jewish Christians living within the Roman empire faced immense persecution. As a religious sect, they had no favors or freedom allowed by the government. So, the text was written to build a bridge between the traditions of old and to create continuity as they explored this new religion. With that history in mind, the Reverends look at the concept of hospitality and when and why it takes courage to continue to act. The conversation includes concepts of: Welcoming those on the edges of society Needing to view hospitality as a spiritual gift and act of service Why having a lack of resources shouldn’t curtail our ability to act Why hospitality can be a matter of life or death How churches and faith communities can take the charge in modeling courageous hospitality The scripture and topic have so many themes to explore. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: Have you ever ignored a nudge from God to help someone? What held you back? What fears or anxieties make it difficult for you to care boldly for others? Is there something God is asking you to give or do for others that would require real sacrifice? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There is also an optional paid membership that unlocks additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

Join Rev. Trudy and Rev. Brittany as they wrap up Season 2 of our digital Bible study podcast by leaning into Hebrews 13 to talk about courage and its connection to radical hospitality. The two female pastors of First UMC of San Diego discuss the complicated history behind the New Testament book of Hebrews. It’s scripture written to the early church at a time where Jewish Christians living within the Roman empire faced immense persecution. As a religious sect, they had no favors or freedom allowed by the government. So, the text was written to build a bridge between the traditions of old and to create continuity as they explored this new religion. With that history in mind, the Reverends look at the concept of hospitality and when and why it takes courage to continue to act. The conversation includes concepts of: Welcoming those on the edges of society Needing to view hospitality as a spiritual gift and act of service Why having a lack of resources shouldn’t curtail our ability to act Why hospitality can be a matter of life or death How churches and faith communities can take the charge in modeling courageous hospitality The scripture and topic have so many themes to explore. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: Have you ever ignored a nudge from God to help someone? What held you back? What fears or anxieties make it difficult for you to care boldly for others? Is there something God is asking you to give or do for others that would require real sacrifice? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There is also an optional paid membership that unlocks additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

Rev. Trudy and Rev. Hannah wrap up the conversation series – “The Christ-Like Journey” – in this episode of First United Methodist Church of San Diego’s Perspectives Pastors Podcast. It’s a multi-episode series where the female pastors and the audience have learned from the most difficult things Jesus had to do during his time on Earth. And in this episode, it’s perhaps the hardest thing of all: Jesus Forgave. It's a digital Bible study that’s by Luke 23:33-43, the crucifixion portion of The Passion story. Through the conversation, the women explain how forgiveness is central to Christianity, especially as portrayed through the Gospel of Luke. But they also note that there are some nuances that they feel people often misinterpret: The use of atonement theology – focusing on individual forgiveness instead of communal forgiveness Not including all of Jesus’ life in his act of salvation The difference between “Jesus died for our sins” and “Jesus died because of or sins” Connection between Jewish tradition of Jubilee and Jesus’ model of forgiveness The societal impact of what forgiveness may offer – for ourselves, others, and systems The scripture and topic have so many themes to explore. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: What’s been your experience or forgiveness? Either your need or your offering it? How do you explain the difference between the two criminal’s responses? What does forgiveness look like in the public sphere? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There is also an optional paid membership that unlocks additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

Rev. Trudy and Rev. Hannah wrap up the conversation series – “The Christ-Like Journey” – in this episode of First United Methodist Church of San Diego’s Perspectives Pastors Podcast. It’s a multi-episode series where the female pastors and the audience have learned from the most difficult things Jesus had to do during his time on Earth. And in this episode, it’s perhaps the hardest thing of all: Jesus Forgave. It's a digital Bible study that’s by Luke 23:33-43, the crucifixion portion of The Passion story. Through the conversation, the women explain how forgiveness is central to Christianity, especially as portrayed through the Gospel of Luke. But they also note that there are some nuances that they feel people often misinterpret: The use of atonement theology – focusing on individual forgiveness instead of communal forgiveness Not including all of Jesus’ life in his act of salvation The difference between “Jesus died for our sins” and “Jesus died because of or sins” Connection between Jewish tradition of Jubilee and Jesus’ model of forgiveness The societal impact of what forgiveness may offer – for ourselves, others, and systems The scripture and topic have so many themes to explore. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: What’s been your experience or forgiveness? Either your need or your offering it? How do you explain the difference between the two criminal’s responses? What does forgiveness look like in the public sphere? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There is also an optional paid membership that unlocks additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

This week on Perspectives podcast, the conversation on The Christ-Like Journey continues, this time examining how it comes with being misunderstood. Rev. Brittany leads the digital Bible study and is joined by Meghan Claussen, Communications Director of First UMC of San Diego, who is charged with digital evangelism and has seen first-hand how pursuing and voicing divine justice often receives a response of disbelief, skepticism, and misunderstanding. The conversation is inspired by Mark 15:1-5, the passage of the gospel where Jesus is brought before Pontius Pilate under accusations of sedition, an offense that was punishable by death. But instead of arguing his case, Jesus responds with silence. A response that was astonishing to Pilate and would be even more unbelievable today. The two women break it down to examine how individuals and churches can use Jesus’ ministry example when challenged by naysayers and skeptics. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: What's a common misconception people have about you? If someone misunderstood something you said or did, would you rather explain or let it go? How do you react when someone misjudges your intentions? Have you ever misunderstood someone else and only realized it later? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There is also an optional paid membership that unlocks additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

This week on Perspectives podcast, the conversation on The Christ-Like Journey continues, this time examining how it comes with being misunderstood. Rev. Brittany leads the digital Bible study and is joined by Meghan Claussen, Communications Director of First UMC of San Diego, who is charged with digital evangelism and has seen first-hand how pursuing and voicing divine justice often receives a response of disbelief, skepticism, and misunderstanding. The conversation is inspired by Mark 15:1-5, the passage of the gospel where Jesus is brought before Pontius Pilate under accusations of sedition, an offense that was punishable by death. But instead of arguing his case, Jesus responds with silence. A response that was astonishing to Pilate and would be even more unbelievable today. The two women break it down to examine how individuals and churches can use Jesus’ ministry example when challenged by naysayers and skeptics. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: What's a common misconception people have about you? If someone misunderstood something you said or did, would you rather explain or let it go? How do you react when someone misjudges your intentions? Have you ever misunderstood someone else and only realized it later? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There is also an optional paid membership that unlocks additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

In this week’s digital Bible Study, Rev. Trudy and Rev. Brittany continue to explore the costs and risks of following Jesus, this time by examining Luke 17:11-19, the story of Jesus venturing into the borderlands to touch (and heal) unwell people. Their in-depth and insightful conversation uncovers the risks we must all take to travel to, see, interact with, and touch those on the margins to help them access what they need to live a full and healthy life. As well as the risks we must take in order to be touched by others to change our lives for the better. The two female pastors of First UMC of San Diego have a lot to say, breaking down: What is means to live in the borderlands The real risks that Jesus and those who had contracted leprosy were willing to take for the healing story Modern-day examples of outcasts and marginalized living in borderlands and constructing their own society Our modern misunderstanding of “healings” and unwillingness to do the hard work to be part of the healing And that’s just the beginning of the wisdom that’s available to unpack! You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: When do you feel like you’re in the borderland? In what ways do you get in the way of your own healing? Do you say thank you enough? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

In this week’s digital Bible Study, Rev. Trudy and Rev. Brittany continue to explore the costs and risks of following Jesus, this time by examining Luke 17:11-19, the story of Jesus venturing into the borderlands to touch (and heal) unwell people. Their in-depth and insightful conversation uncovers the risks we must all take to travel to, see, interact with, and touch those on the margins to help them access what they need to live a full and healthy life. As well as the risks we must take in order to be touched by others to change our lives for the better. The two female pastors of First UMC of San Diego have a lot to say, breaking down: What is means to live in the borderlands The real risks that Jesus and those who had contracted leprosy were willing to take for the healing story Modern-day examples of outcasts and marginalized living in borderlands and constructing their own society Our modern misunderstanding of “healings” and unwillingness to do the hard work to be part of the healing And that’s just the beginning of the wisdom that’s available to unpack! You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: When do you feel like you’re in the borderland? In what ways do you get in the way of your own healing? Do you say thank you enough? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

This time on Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors podcast, Rev. Brittany and Rev. Hannah continue the conversation about “The Christ-Like Journey” by discussing how Jesus relied upon strangers, and so should we. It’s a concept that many of us dismiss but through the Gospel of Luke, the two female pastors demonstrate how we must rely upon strangers (who often become our friends!) as we journey through life. The digital Bible study starts with the reading of Luke 10:38-42, the account of Jesus accepting hospitality from Mary and Martha for the first time. It’s a well-known story (though we often get it confused with the account from the Gospel of John!). Rev. Brittany and Rev. Hannah take the opportunity to pack quite a few theories around the need for hospitality from strangers, including: The theme of the traveler being a common theme throughout the Gospel of Luke. How it’s easier to give hospitality than it is to receive it. To fully experience the Christian faith, we can’t just give, we also must receive. The various boundaries we seen crossed through this Gospel story and how being radically hospitable sometimes require us to cross social boundaries. The importance of attitude when it comes to hospitality and faith journeys. And that’s just the beginning of the wisdom that’s available to unpack! You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: How comfortable are you with meeting strangers? Who are you hesitant to offer hospitality to and why? What keeps you worried and distracted from receiving hospitality? Have you ever felt resentful in offering hospitality? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

This time on Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors podcast, Rev. Brittany and Rev. Hannah continue the conversation about “The Christ-Like Journey” by discussing how Jesus relied upon strangers, and so should we. It’s a concept that many of us dismiss but through the Gospel of Luke, the two female pastors demonstrate how we must rely upon strangers (who often become our friends!) as we journey through life. The digital Bible study starts with the reading of Luke 10:38-42, the account of Jesus accepting hospitality from Mary and Martha for the first time. It’s a well-known story (though we often get it confused with the account from the Gospel of John!). Rev. Brittany and Rev. Hannah take the opportunity to pack quite a few theories around the need for hospitality from strangers, including: The theme of the traveler being a common theme throughout the Gospel of Luke. How it’s easier to give hospitality than it is to receive it. To fully experience the Christian faith, we can’t just give, we also must receive. The various boundaries we seen crossed through this Gospel story and how being radically hospitable sometimes require us to cross social boundaries. The importance of attitude when it comes to hospitality and faith journeys. And that’s just the beginning of the wisdom that’s available to unpack! You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: How comfortable are you with meeting strangers? Who are you hesitant to offer hospitality to and why? What keeps you worried and distracted from receiving hospitality? Have you ever felt resentful in offering hospitality? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

The female pastors of First United Methodist Church of San Diego continue the conversation about the radical cost of Christian discipleship – this time by looking at how Jesus calls people to leave behind their families, livelihood, and comforts to follow him. It’s a conversation inspired by Luke 9:56-62. Rev. Hannah and Rev. Brittany break down the scripture verse by verse with this digital Bible study with goal of better understanding what Jesus risked when he left the comforts of his family home. Some of the radical demands of discipleship that they observe include: Deprioritizing your own creature comforts and your familial and cultural obligations. Letting go of social, family, and religious traditions of the past to look toward a new future and way of life. Stopping the seeking and following of safe, predictable paths and instead living in the moment. Looking for the messiest places on Earth, disrupting with transformative love, and letting go of prosperity theologies. There is a lot more to say about leaving home and comforts to embark into the unknown. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: How do our homes (spiritual or physical) create safe spaces for us thrive and/or comforts that hold us back? How has Christ’s radical demand of discipleship changed your life? As a disciple of Jesus Christ, are you prepared to face rejection and/or persecution? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

The female pastors of First United Methodist Church of San Diego continue the conversation about the radical cost of Christian discipleship – this time by looking at how Jesus calls people to leave behind their families, livelihood, and comforts to follow him. It’s a conversation inspired by Luke 9:56-62. Rev. Hannah and Rev. Brittany break down the scripture verse by verse with this digital Bible study with goal of better understanding what Jesus risked when he left the comforts of his family home. Some of the radical demands of discipleship that they observe include: Deprioritizing your own creature comforts and your familial and cultural obligations. Letting go of social, family, and religious traditions of the past to look toward a new future and way of life. Stopping the seeking and following of safe, predictable paths and instead living in the moment. Looking for the messiest places on Earth, disrupting with transformative love, and letting go of prosperity theologies. There is a lot more to say about leaving home and comforts to embark into the unknown. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: How do our homes (spiritual or physical) create safe spaces for us thrive and/or comforts that hold us back? How has Christ’s radical demand of discipleship changed your life? As a disciple of Jesus Christ, are you prepared to face rejection and/or persecution? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

On this week’s podcast, the female pastors of First United Methodist Church of San Diego kick off a new multi-episode conversation series that looks at the cost of discipleship for us today by investigating everything Jesus gave up doing the work he did. During this first episode, Rev. Trudy and Rev. Brittany talk about family and how Jesus risked losing his by expanding and redefining who we call mother, father, brother and sister. It’s inspired by Jesus’ words in Matthew 12:46-50. At first look, the scripture is one that may be confusion. But once you drill deeper, you can uncover truths that still ring true today, as discussed in this digital Bible Study: The broadening definition of family to better honor the Imago Dei, find the care and support you need, and see God’s spirit moving through others. How it feels to be dismissed by our family members or to be tied up in the tension and struggle that exists in many families. The need to identify and change harmful traditions and practices that pass down through generations so we can redefine how to be in relationship with each other and correct the wrongs of our family’s past. The need to create space for friends, family, and community to confront beliefs and practices and give permission to do things differently. It’s an interesting conversation that examines a wide range of topics. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: Is this story about Jesus’ family in particular? Why and/or why not? What do you think is Jesus’ criticism of family? How has your family helped and/or hindered you in your ability to live out the will of God? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

On this week’s podcast, the female pastors of First United Methodist Church of San Diego kick off a new multi-episode conversation series that looks at the cost of discipleship for us today by investigating everything Jesus gave up doing the work he did. During this first episode, Rev. Trudy and Rev. Brittany talk about family and how Jesus risked losing his by expanding and redefining who we call mother, father, brother and sister. It’s inspired by Jesus’ words in Matthew 12:46-50. At first look, the scripture is one that may be confusion. But once you drill deeper, you can uncover truths that still ring true today, as discussed in this digital Bible Study: The broadening definition of family to better honor the Imago Dei, find the care and support you need, and see God’s spirit moving through others. How it feels to be dismissed by our family members or to be tied up in the tension and struggle that exists in many families. The need to identify and change harmful traditions and practices that pass down through generations so we can redefine how to be in relationship with each other and correct the wrongs of our family’s past. The need to create space for friends, family, and community to confront beliefs and practices and give permission to do things differently. It’s an interesting conversation that examines a wide range of topics. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: Is this story about Jesus’ family in particular? Why and/or why not? What do you think is Jesus’ criticism of family? How has your family helped and/or hindered you in your ability to live out the will of God? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

This week, Rev. Trudy and Rev. Hannah of First UMC of San Diego wrap up their current digital bible study conversation about the various forms of faith and how they may help us resolve heavy emotions that are running high for so many of us these days. Their focus in this conversation is weariness, as inspired by Matthew 11:16-19, 25-30. Ultimately asking: Have we made being a Christian too hard? The female pastors look closely at what actions truly make us a disciple of Christ, removing the unnecessary elements so you can be a Christian no matter where you’re at in life: love God, love your neighbor, and love yourself. They ask what sharing the yoke with Jesus means and looks like, as well as: How do we find rest without neglecting duties? How does distraction affect our energy? Is it more important to have learned knowledge or intuitive knowledge when it comes to knowing and experiencing God? It’s an interesting conversation that examines a wide range of topics. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: What distracts you from faith? Do you think the yoke of Jesus is easy? Why or why not? What would true spiritual rest look like for you? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

This week, Rev. Trudy and Rev. Hannah of First UMC of San Diego wrap up their current digital bible study conversation about the various forms of faith and how they may help us resolve heavy emotions that are running high for so many of us these days. Their focus in this conversation is weariness, as inspired by Matthew 11:16-19, 25-30. Ultimately asking: Have we made being a Christian too hard? The female pastors look closely at what actions truly make us a disciple of Christ, removing the unnecessary elements so you can be a Christian no matter where you’re at in life: love God, love your neighbor, and love yourself. They ask what sharing the yoke with Jesus means and looks like, as well as: How do we find rest without neglecting duties? How does distraction affect our energy? Is it more important to have learned knowledge or intuitive knowledge when it comes to knowing and experiencing God? It’s an interesting conversation that examines a wide range of topics. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: What distracts you from faith? Do you think the yoke of Jesus is easy? Why or why not? What would true spiritual rest look like for you? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

In this episode of Perspectives Pastors Podcast, Rev. Brittany and Rev. Hannah talk about the power of faith to bridge the gap between suspicion and healthy relationship. The digital Bible Study is based on the wisdom literature attributed King Solomon: Ecclesiastes 4:7-12, which includes the popular phrase: “Two is better than one.” The dynamic conversation covers a variety of important themes, including: How being in conversation and community with those different than you can help ease suspicions and lead to life-giving bonds. The misinterpretation and misuse of scripture to prohibit and exclude groups of people (as people do when they apply a romantic theme to Ecclesiastes 4). The importance of living in community instead of isolation and the communal nature of joy. How our modern-day approach to work has diverted greatly from the biblical understanding of work (which called humans to build relationship first and foremost!). How true security comes through relationships, not wealth. The importance of community when it comes to justice work. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: In what ways can isolation breed suspicion, distrust, and fear toward others? Can you think of a time when relationship quieted suspicion? How might faith communities foster connection across differences? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

In this episode of Perspectives Pastors Podcast, Rev. Brittany and Rev. Hannah talk about the power of faith to bridge the gap between suspicion and healthy relationship. The digital Bible Study is based on the wisdom literature attributed King Solomon: Ecclesiastes 4:7-12, which includes the popular phrase: “Two is better than one.” The dynamic conversation covers a variety of important themes, including: How being in conversation and community with those different than you can help ease suspicions and lead to life-giving bonds. The misinterpretation and misuse of scripture to prohibit and exclude groups of people (as people do when they apply a romantic theme to Ecclesiastes 4). The importance of living in community instead of isolation and the communal nature of joy. How our modern-day approach to work has diverted greatly from the biblical understanding of work (which called humans to build relationship first and foremost!). How true security comes through relationships, not wealth. The importance of community when it comes to justice work. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: In what ways can isolation breed suspicion, distrust, and fear toward others? Can you think of a time when relationship quieted suspicion? How might faith communities foster connection across differences? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

Rev. Trudy and Rev. Brittany are back in the First United Methodist Church of San Diego video studio, this time discussing anxiety and how it can be lessened through “restorative faith.” The digital Bible study kicks off with the reading of Matthew 6:25-34 – the familiar passage that urges us to “stop worrying about tomorrow, because tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.” With anxiety running high throughout today’s society, this scripture can bring comfort to those who find themselves anxious. But, as Rev. Trudy points out, there’s also potential for the scripture to be misused and misquoted, shaming people for their mental health struggles and making them question their level of faith because of the worries that still exist in their life. The two women dive deep in their discussion, talking about their own battles with anxiety, the illusion of control, materialism, consumerism, and questioning of scripture when taken at face value. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: What in your life is causing you anxiety in the moment? How does the surrounding culture create and exacerbate anxiety? What is the difference between our desire for the kingdom of God than our desire for clothing? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

Rev. Trudy and Rev. Brittany are back in the First United Methodist Church of San Diego video studio, this time discussing anxiety and how it can be lessened through “restorative faith.” The digital Bible study kicks off with the reading of Matthew 6:25-34 – the familiar passage that urges us to “stop worrying about tomorrow, because tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.” With anxiety running high throughout today’s society, this scripture can bring comfort to those who find themselves anxious. But, as Rev. Trudy points out, there’s also potential for the scripture to be misused and misquoted, shaming people for their mental health struggles and making them question their level of faith because of the worries that still exist in their life. The two women dive deep in their discussion, talking about their own battles with anxiety, the illusion of control, materialism, consumerism, and questioning of scripture when taken at face value. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: What in your life is causing you anxiety in the moment? How does the surrounding culture create and exacerbate anxiety? What is the difference between our desire for the kingdom of God than our desire for clothing? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

In today’s Perspectives Pastors Podcast, Rev. Trudy and Rev. Brittany kick off a new multi-episode discussion that looks closely at our faith, asking “what good is it?” – connecting truths and experiences from Biblical times to the high running emotions, anxiety, and suspicion that many are feeling today. Up first, the female pastors look at faith through the lens of fear by turning to Matthew 10:23-27, a passage where Jesus sends off his disciples to spread his teachings, warning them that they will be met with hostility and resistance but all they need to take with them is their faith in God. It’s a bold call that is hard for us to embrace and understand. But, as the reverends discuss, it’s necessary today if we are going to live out God’s command to carry out justice. Through their Bible study and discussion, they debate whether the disciples were more courageous than we are today, explain the concept of holy courage, address the fears that we face today, and ultimately ask: How do we act when life gets tough? You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: Does fear motivate you to retreat or to take action? Does faith motivate you to overcome your fear? How and Why? Has following Jesus caused a sword to sever some relationships? What emotion is evoked when you hear “take up the cross”? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

In today’s Perspectives Pastors Podcast, Rev. Trudy and Rev. Brittany kick off a new multi-episode discussion that looks closely at our faith, asking “what good is it?” – connecting truths and experiences from Biblical times to the high running emotions, anxiety, and suspicion that many are feeling today. Up first, the female pastors look at faith through the lens of fear by turning to Matthew 10:23-27, a passage where Jesus sends off his disciples to spread his teachings, warning them that they will be met with hostility and resistance but all they need to take with them is their faith in God. It’s a bold call that is hard for us to embrace and understand. But, as the reverends discuss, it’s necessary today if we are going to live out God’s command to carry out justice. Through their Bible study and discussion, they debate whether the disciples were more courageous than we are today, explain the concept of holy courage, address the fears that we face today, and ultimately ask: How do we act when life gets tough? You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: Does fear motivate you to retreat or to take action? Does faith motivate you to overcome your fear? How and Why? Has following Jesus caused a sword to sever some relationships? What emotion is evoked when you hear “take up the cross”? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

Rev. Brittany and Rev. Hannah are back to take another look at the Holy Spirit, this time from the angle of “the Spirit of truth” as inspired by Jesus’ bold words in John 16:12-15. They’re words that are a gift to the disciples as he prepares to depart from his ministry on Earth. But, as the two female pastors point out, it’s not the warm and fuzzy gift that we would all like to receive. Through the digital Bible study, the reverends dive deep into meaning behind Jesus’ words, highlighting the relevant ancient Greek words and the timeline of the Gospel of John for additional context. They also discuss: Separation anxiety and how it can lead to decision paralysis Communal responsibilities of Christianity Our natural inclination of being creatures of habit and how that can interfere with our Christian calling Stepping out in faith to do the hard things How “too much to bear” isn’t the same as “too much to hear” and how that applies to answer the Spirit’s call You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: What kinds of truths about ourselves, God, and the world do we typically find hard to bear? How do cultural, historical, emotional, and psychological factors affect our capacity to hear the truth? How should the church approach the challenge that people may not yet be ready to hear certain truths? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

Rev. Brittany and Rev. Hannah are back to take another look at the Holy Spirit, this time from the angle of “the Spirit of truth” as inspired by Jesus’ bold words in John 16:12-15. They’re words that are a gift to the disciples as he prepares to depart from his ministry on Earth. But, as the two female pastors point out, it’s not the warm and fuzzy gift that we would all like to receive. Through the digital Bible study, the reverends dive deep into meaning behind Jesus’ words, highlighting the relevant ancient Greek words and the timeline of the Gospel of John for additional context. They also discuss: Separation anxiety and how it can lead to decision paralysis Communal responsibilities of Christianity Our natural inclination of being creatures of habit and how that can interfere with our Christian calling Stepping out in faith to do the hard things How “too much to bear” isn’t the same as “too much to hear” and how that applies to answer the Spirit’s call You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: What kinds of truths about ourselves, God, and the world do we typically find hard to bear? How do cultural, historical, emotional, and psychological factors affect our capacity to hear the truth? How should the church approach the challenge that people may not yet be ready to hear certain truths? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

In this week’s digital Bible study, Rev. Hannah and Rev. Brittany of First UMC of San Diego do a deep dive into Pentecost and the Holy Spirit, inspired by Acts 2. While many Christians identify the Holy Spirit with fire, these two female pastors lean into the wind imagery of the passage, looking at what happens when the “Winds” speak. It’s a Perspectives Pastors Podcast conversation that goes both wide and deep, analyzing: Why we often question when new ways of life are introduced at church and other deeply established institutions. How the Holy Spirit can be seen as the great equalizer – falling upon all peoples and embolden them to do something new and different. Questioning why “-isms” such as ageism, ableism, racism, classism, and capitalism still exists if God’s love knows no bounds through the Holy Spirit. How we perceive sin as being personal immorality instead of misaligned relationships. There is so much to explore about Pentecost and the Holy Spirit! While this episode covers a lot – it really is just the beginning of the topic. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: How have you encountered the Holy Spirit in your life or community? Can you share an experience where being part of a group made you feel connected or inspired? How is community strengthened by diversity? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

In this week’s digital Bible study, Rev. Hannah and Rev. Brittany of First UMC of San Diego do a deep dive into Pentecost and the Holy Spirit, inspired by Acts 2. While many Christians identify the Holy Spirit with fire, these two female pastors lean into the wind imagery of the passage, looking at what happens when the “Winds” speak. It’s a Perspectives Pastors Podcast conversation that goes both wide and deep, analyzing: Why we often question when new ways of life are introduced at church and other deeply established institutions. How the Holy Spirit can be seen as the great equalizer – falling upon all peoples and embolden them to do something new and different. Questioning why “-isms” such as ageism, ableism, racism, classism, and capitalism still exists if God’s love knows no bounds through the Holy Spirit. How we perceive sin as being personal immorality instead of misaligned relationships. There is so much to explore about Pentecost and the Holy Spirit! While this episode covers a lot – it really is just the beginning of the topic. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: How have you encountered the Holy Spirit in your life or community? Can you share an experience where being part of a group made you feel connected or inspired? How is community strengthened by diversity? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

Rev. Trudy and Rev. Brittany are back in the video studio to wrap up multi-episode discussion on “Hope for Planet Earth” – this time focusing on the need to act by asking “how can we help?” It’s a multi-faceted conversation that brings in all aspects of the Holy Trinity as it relates to creation care and action. They start by focusing on creation itself, looking to Psalm 19:1-4a where it describes creation speaking and hearing God’s word. Then they move to Mark 16:19-20 and Jesus’ Ascension to talk about His ministry and what the disciples were called to do after he leaves earth. They then wrap up by discussing the Holy Spirit, who comes alongside us with prompting to act. But that prompting to act is easier said than done. We want to do everything all at once – ignoring nature’s beautiful examples of how to build boundaries – which leaves us paralyzed and unable to act. So, how do we overcome that fear? There is so much to explore in these two scriptures. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: Where are you reluctant to go with the gospel you know? How much of the gospel you know impacts creation? What would you rather talk about than do? Or do than talk about? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

Rev. Trudy and Rev. Brittany are back in the video studio to wrap up multi-episode discussion on “Hope for Planet Earth” – this time focusing on the need to act by asking “how can we help?” It’s a multi-faceted conversation that brings in all aspects of the Holy Trinity as it relates to creation care and action. They start by focusing on creation itself, looking to Psalm 19:1-4a where it describes creation speaking and hearing God’s word. Then they move to Mark 16:19-20 and Jesus’ Ascension to talk about His ministry and what the disciples were called to do after he leaves earth. They then wrap up by discussing the Holy Spirit, who comes alongside us with prompting to act. But that prompting to act is easier said than done. We want to do everything all at once – ignoring nature’s beautiful examples of how to build boundaries – which leaves us paralyzed and unable to act. So, how do we overcome that fear? There is so much to explore in these two scriptures. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: Where are you reluctant to go with the gospel you know? How much of the gospel you know impacts creation? What would you rather talk about than do? Or do than talk about? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

Rev. Hannah and Rev. Brittany are back in the video studio to pick back up multi-episode discussion on “Hope for Planet Earth” – this time asking: “How can we recognize?” The two female pastors dig into text from Job 12:7-10 during this investigative digital Bible study, offering deep insights into how we can gain insight into God by being in relationship with the animals, plants, and rest of creation that surround us. It’s an interesting take that challenges the belief that humans are the superior species. They then Luke 24:28-31, part of the road to Emmaus story that takes place after Jesus’ resurrection, offering an important reminder of how often we get so consumed by our daily routines that we fail to recognize how God is in our midst. There is so much to explore in these two scriptures. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: How do you recognize God's presence in the natural world? And what lessons or wisdom do you learn from creation about God's work in us? What was your spiritual a-ha moment that you recognized God at work? How can we cultivate a posture of recognition in a culture that often prioritizes noise, distraction, or control? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

Rev. Hannah and Rev. Brittany are back in the video studio to pick back up multi-episode discussion on “Hope for Planet Earth” – this time asking: “How can we recognize?” The two female pastors dig into text from Job 12:7-10 during this investigative digital Bible study, offering deep insights into how we can gain insight into God by being in relationship with the animals, plants, and rest of creation that surround us. It’s an interesting take that challenges the belief that humans are the superior species. They then Luke 24:28-31, part of the road to Emmaus story that takes place after Jesus’ resurrection, offering an important reminder of how often we get so consumed by our daily routines that we fail to recognize how God is in our midst. There is so much to explore in these two scriptures. You can keep the conversation going by joining our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or heading over to our Patreon channel to discuss the following questions with others: How do you recognize God's presence in the natural world? And what lessons or wisdom do you learn from creation about God's work in us? What was your spiritual a-ha moment that you recognized God at work? How can we cultivate a posture of recognition in a culture that often prioritizes noise, distraction, or control? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

This week is an extra special episode, featuring all three female pastors of First United Methodist Church of San Diego: Rev. Trudy D. Robinson, Rev. Dr. Hannah Ka, and Rev. Brittany Juliette Hanlin. In honor of the 9 confirmands joining our church on May 18, they’re answering these questions of faith that are common among the younger generations: What does following Jesus actually look like in real life for you? How do I stay true to my faith in school or with friends who don’t believe? How should Christians treat people who believe differently? How do we treat other Christians who believe differently than we do? How do I know my purpose? It’s a great conversation for anyone, young or old, but especially those who are starting to grow in their faith or getting ready to become a member of their faith community – or even more mature Christians who have friends and family that are in the beginning phases of their spiritual journey. We invite you to discuss these same questions with your friends and family. If you’d like to discuss the questions with others in our faith community, we invite you to join our in-person Convergence discussion group or our online Patreon community. Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

This week is an extra special episode, featuring all three female pastors of First United Methodist Church of San Diego: Rev. Trudy D. Robinson, Rev. Dr. Hannah Ka, and Rev. Brittany Juliette Hanlin. In honor of the 9 confirmands joining our church on May 18, they’re answering these questions of faith that are common among the younger generations: What does following Jesus actually look like in real life for you? How do I stay true to my faith in school or with friends who don’t believe? How should Christians treat people who believe differently? How do we treat other Christians who believe differently than we do? How do I know my purpose? It’s a great conversation for anyone, young or old, but especially those who are starting to grow in their faith or getting ready to become a member of their faith community – or even more mature Christians who have friends and family that are in the beginning phases of their spiritual journey. We invite you to discuss these same questions with your friends and family. If you’d like to discuss the questions with others in our faith community, we invite you to join our in-person Convergence discussion group or our online Patreon community. Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

In this episode of Perspectives Pastors Podcast, Rev. Brittany and Rev. Hannah continue the conversation on “Hope for Planet Earth” by asking the question “How can we know?”. Through the digital Bible study, they look toward Psalm 104:24-25 and John 21:1-6 for wisdom on God’s creation and how Jesus’ resurrection can offer us hope and reassurance in uncertain times. We all tend to get caught up in daily stress and often lose sight of God and the importance of creation. How can we combat this? The female pastors offer interesting insights including: How to re-ground ourselves in nature. The interdependence of all creation in the circle of life. The wisdom we can gain by studying the ocean. How nature teaches us about the healthiness of creating boundaries. The proof of God’s existence through nature and creation. It’s an interesting discussion and there is more wisdom to be uncovered through continued conversation! If you’d like to continue exploring the themes of these scriptures with others, we invite you to join our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or our online Patreon community where you can connect with other spiritual seekers to discuss these questions: What does the wisdom of God look like? How have you experienced the wisdom of God in nature? How do you know when you encounter the Divine, especially when you’re struggling? What does the wisdom of God sound like in your heart? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

In this episode of Perspectives Pastors Podcast, Rev. Brittany and Rev. Hannah continue the conversation on “Hope for Planet Earth” by asking the question “How can we know?”. Through the digital Bible study, they look toward Psalm 104:24-25 and John 21:1-6 for wisdom on God’s creation and how Jesus’ resurrection can offer us hope and reassurance in uncertain times. We all tend to get caught up in daily stress and often lose sight of God and the importance of creation. How can we combat this? The female pastors offer interesting insights including: How to re-ground ourselves in nature. The interdependence of all creation in the circle of life. The wisdom we can gain by studying the ocean. How nature teaches us about the healthiness of creating boundaries. The proof of God’s existence through nature and creation. It’s an interesting discussion and there is more wisdom to be uncovered through continued conversation! If you’d like to continue exploring the themes of these scriptures with others, we invite you to join our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or our online Patreon community where you can connect with other spiritual seekers to discuss these questions: What does the wisdom of God look like? How have you experienced the wisdom of God in nature? How do you know when you encounter the Divine, especially when you’re struggling? What does the wisdom of God sound like in your heart? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

On this week’s episode of Perspectives Pastors Podcast, Rev. Trudy and Rev. Hannah look toward Romans and the Gospel of John to ask: “Hope for planet Earth … how can we believe?” The two female pastors take us on a journey through this digital Bible study, exploring the deeper meanings behind Paul’s letter to the Romans, the reason why Thomas is depicted as a doubter, and the need for more integration in our spiritual life between the physical and spiritual, connecting our mind, heart, and sensory skills to impact how we believe. Through Paul’s letter to the Romans, we begin to see all the ways we haven’t honored God, including neglecting to care for God’s creation. It’s a passage that’s full of doom and gloom and ends with the pointed question: “Who will save us?” And when looking at the passage of John where Thomas states he needs to physically touch Jesus’ wounds to fully believe They look toward John to see if they can find some hope and grace. It’s the story of Jesus revealing his resurrected self to the disciples and doubting Thomas stating he needed to touch the wounds to believe. Through the discussion, they also take a moment to deconstruct some of Romans that has been historically been used to explain homosexuality as a sin. But the team explains why that interpretation isn't historically and culturally accurate, and provides a more progressive lens to how to interpret Paul's statements in Romans. It’s a deep, philosophical discussion that uncovers a lot for discussion. If you’d like to continue the conversation with others, we invite you to join our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or our online Patreon community where you can connect with other spiritual seekers to discuss these questions: How do you value creation? How do you experience spiritual realities? What do your actions say about your beliefs? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

On this week’s episode of Perspectives Pastors Podcast, Rev. Trudy and Rev. Hannah look toward Romans and the Gospel of John to ask: “Hope for planet Earth … how can we believe?” The two female pastors take us on a journey through this digital Bible study, exploring the deeper meanings behind Paul’s letter to the Romans, the reason why Thomas is depicted as a doubter, and the need for more integration in our spiritual life between the physical and spiritual, connecting our mind, heart, and sensory skills to impact how we believe. Through Paul’s letter to the Romans, we begin to see all the ways we haven’t honored God, including neglecting to care for God’s creation. It’s a passage that’s full of doom and gloom and ends with the pointed question: “Who will save us?” And when looking at the passage of John where Thomas states he needs to physically touch Jesus’ wounds to fully believe They look toward John to see if they can find some hope and grace. It’s the story of Jesus revealing his resurrected self to the disciples and doubting Thomas stating he needed to touch the wounds to believe. Through the discussion, they also take a moment to deconstruct some of Romans that has been historically been used to explain homosexuality as a sin. But the team explains why that interpretation isn't historically and culturally accurate, and provides a more progressive lens to how to interpret Paul's statements in Romans. It’s a deep, philosophical discussion that uncovers a lot for discussion. If you’d like to continue the conversation with others, we invite you to join our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or our online Patreon community where you can connect with other spiritual seekers to discuss these questions: How do you value creation? How do you experience spiritual realities? What do your actions say about your beliefs? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

Rev. Trudy & Rev. Brittany ushering in a new conversation series: Hope for Planet Earth. This multi-episode series pairs Old Testament scripture speaking about the world, the creation, the state of the earth, with the stories of the resurrected Christ appearing to the disciples to see how they dance around the idea of hope. This first conversation, they’re asking: Are we too far gone? They look toward at Isaiah 24:4-6 and Mark 16:1-4 – two scriptures that evoke a sense of fear, which many of us currently feel when seeing the state of the world when it comes to the environment and climate change. It’s a challenging conversation and digital Bible Study that includes: The need to look at climate change at the micro and macro level The mindfulness needed in our everyday actions so we can help replenish the planet How to proceed in the darkest of days to honor scriptural mandates the best way we know how What the scripture says about creation care and environmentalism The connection between environmental justice, social justice, and the Gospel If you’d like to continue the conversation with others, we invite you to join our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or our online Patreon community where you can connect with other spiritual seekers to discuss these questions: How important is hope? Is there an inherent value in doing the right thing, even if it’s ineffective? What terrifies you into paralysis? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

Rev. Trudy & Rev. Brittany ushering in a new conversation series: Hope for Planet Earth. This multi-episode series pairs Old Testament scripture speaking about the world, the creation, the state of the earth, with the stories of the resurrected Christ appearing to the disciples to see how they dance around the idea of hope. This first conversation, they’re asking: Are we too far gone? They look toward at Isaiah 24:4-6 and Mark 16:1-4 – two scriptures that evoke a sense of fear, which many of us currently feel when seeing the state of the world when it comes to the environment and climate change. It’s a challenging conversation and digital Bible Study that includes: The need to look at climate change at the micro and macro level The mindfulness needed in our everyday actions so we can help replenish the planet How to proceed in the darkest of days to honor scriptural mandates the best way we know how What the scripture says about creation care and environmentalism The connection between environmental justice, social justice, and the Gospel If you’d like to continue the conversation with others, we invite you to join our weekly in-person Convergence discussion group or our online Patreon community where you can connect with other spiritual seekers to discuss these questions: How important is hope? Is there an inherent value in doing the right thing, even if it’s ineffective? What terrifies you into paralysis? Our Patreon community is open to all – no matter where you align in your spiritual beliefs. It’s free to join and connect over the weekly episode questions. There are also two additional membership levels that allow you to unlock additional content. Check it out at https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd!

Join Rev. Brittany and Rev. Hannah as they wrap up the multi-episode conversation on The Stories That Save Us, which has highlighted some favorite stories from the Gospel. This week, the female pastors of the First United Methodist Church of San Diego are focusing on The Story of Forgiveness, leaning into John 8:2-11, the story of the woman caught in the sin of adultery. The pastors speculate the public stoning was a scheme to trap Jesus in a theological battle. After all, why only accuse the woman and not the man? Unfortunately, that trap makes the unnamed woman the front and center of the story, making her an immoral scapegoat to publicly catch Jesus. And it’s been used by Christians for centuries as justification to put others down. But Jesus gives us the blueprint on how to navigate public shaming and judgment of others through verbal and non-verbal engagement and de-escalation. Listen in as the pastors discuss how to navigate sin, condemnation, and forgiveness in a way that’s life giving and can lead us and others toward a new future with a clean slate. We invite you to continue the conversation with friends and family, joining our in-person Convergence discussion group, or visiting our Patreon community where you can unlock more content and inspiration while engaging in online discussion. Here are some questions for you to ponder, as you continue to explore The Story of Forgiveness: If you placed yourself in the story, who would you be or where would you be? Have you ever experienced or extended forgiveness that felt undeserved? What does this story teach us about the nature of God’s forgiveness? We’ll be taking a short break next week as we celebrate Easter (The Story of Hope!) but will be back with a new conversation series on Sunday, April 27.

Join Rev. Brittany and Rev. Hannah as they wrap up the multi-episode conversation on The Stories That Save Us, which has highlighted some favorite stories from the Gospel. This week, the female pastors of the First United Methodist Church of San Diego are focusing on The Story of Forgiveness, leaning into John 8:2-11, the story of the woman caught in the sin of adultery. The pastors speculate the public stoning was a scheme to trap Jesus in a theological battle. After all, why only accuse the woman and not the man? Unfortunately, that trap makes the unnamed woman the front and center of the story, making her an immoral scapegoat to publicly catch Jesus. And it’s been used by Christians for centuries as justification to put others down. But Jesus gives us the blueprint on how to navigate public shaming and judgment of others through verbal and non-verbal engagement and de-escalation. Listen in as the pastors discuss how to navigate sin, condemnation, and forgiveness in a way that’s life giving and can lead us and others toward a new future with a clean slate. We invite you to continue the conversation with friends and family, joining our in-person Convergence discussion group, or visiting our Patreon community where you can unlock more content and inspiration while engaging in online discussion. Here are some questions for you to ponder, as you continue to explore The Story of Forgiveness: If you placed yourself in the story, who would you be or where would you be? Have you ever experienced or extended forgiveness that felt undeserved? What does this story teach us about the nature of God’s forgiveness? We’ll be taking a short break next week as we celebrate Easter (The Story of Hope!) but will be back with a new conversation series on Sunday, April 27.

This week, the female pastors of First United Methodist Church of San Diego look at the well-known story of the prodigal son from Luke 15:11-32 (also known as the forgotten son) who returns home after dishonoring his father, family, and cultural practices. Rev. Hannah views the parable as a story of repentance. But Rev. Trudy brings forth commentary from Dr. Amy Jill Levine that points in another direction. Regardless of how you view the son, the female pastors agree that the highlight of the story is the unequivocal love brought forth by the father, and a demonstration of undeserving grace. Some Christians try to rename the story “the loving father story” but when you look closely at all three of the primary characters – there are major flaws and brokenness in them all: the resentment of the older brother, the flippancy and extravagance of the younger brother, and the aloofness of the father. And we leave with the story unresolved – much like the struggles in our own lives, providing us an invitation to figure out how to end our story and estrangements. We invite you to continue the conversation with friends and family, joining our in-person Convergence discussion group, or visiting our Patreon community where you can unlock more content and inspiration while engaging in online discussion. Here are some questions for you to ponder, as you continue to explore The Story of Love: What do you think about this parable, if interpreted as a story where all the characters are flawed? What expressions of love do you see in this story? Where do you find the hope of faith in this story? During this season of Lent, we have additional spiritual growth opportunities to help you explore The Stories that Save Us: Free Journal: Finding Your Stories of Faith – continue investigating each week’s scripture with guided prompts that help you uncover your personal faith stories. Book Study: Wholehearted Faith – Join the FUMCSD pastors in reading the stories of Rachel Held Evans as she wrestled with faith. Then join or host a watch party to hear Revs. Trudy, Hannah, and Brittany’s thoughts and hear the thoughts of those around you. Community Gathering: The Stories That Save Us – Live in San Diego? Join us in person to reflect on your Lent experience.

This week, the female pastors of First United Methodist Church of San Diego look at the well-known story of the prodigal son from Luke 15:11-32 (also known as the forgotten son) who returns home after dishonoring his father, family, and cultural practices. Rev. Hannah views the parable as a story of repentance. But Rev. Trudy brings forth commentary from Dr. Amy Jill Levine that points in another direction. Regardless of how you view the son, the female pastors agree that the highlight of the story is the unequivocal love brought forth by the father, and a demonstration of undeserving grace. Some Christians try to rename the story “the loving father story” but when you look closely at all three of the primary characters – there are major flaws and brokenness in them all: the resentment of the older brother, the flippancy and extravagance of the younger brother, and the aloofness of the father. And we leave with the story unresolved – much like the struggles in our own lives, providing us an invitation to figure out how to end our story and estrangements. We invite you to continue the conversation with friends and family, joining our in-person Convergence discussion group, or visiting our Patreon community where you can unlock more content and inspiration while engaging in online discussion. Here are some questions for you to ponder, as you continue to explore The Story of Love: What do you think about this parable, if interpreted as a story where all the characters are flawed? What expressions of love do you see in this story? Where do you find the hope of faith in this story? During this season of Lent, we have additional spiritual growth opportunities to help you explore The Stories that Save Us: Free Journal: Finding Your Stories of Faith – continue investigating each week’s scripture with guided prompts that help you uncover your personal faith stories. Book Study: Wholehearted Faith – Join the FUMCSD pastors in reading the stories of Rachel Held Evans as she wrestled with faith. Then join or host a watch party to hear Revs. Trudy, Hannah, and Brittany’s thoughts and hear the thoughts of those around you. Community Gathering: The Stories That Save Us – Live in San Diego? Join us in person to reflect on your Lent experience.

During this week’s Perspectives Pastors Podcast, Rev. Hannah and Rev. Brittany focus on the Story of Tranquility, as inspired by Matthew 8:23-27, the story of Jesus calming the storm – giving orders to the winds and the lake. It’s part of the multi-episode conversation the female pastors of First United Methodist Church have been having about The Stories That Save Us. Through this digital Bible study, the two reverends give their perspective on how they would act if they were in the storm with Jesus and explain what they think this miracle story represents. They discuss: How crossing the lake was an allegory for the early Christian church and that by answering the call to be Christian, you may face more frequent storms. The communal experience of life’s storms and how they affect individuals throughout a community at different levels. How we can foster a culture of tranquility within our communities. We invite you to continue the conversation with friends and family, joining our in-person Convergence discussion group, or visiting our Patreon community where you can unlock more content and inspiration while engaging in online discussion. Here are some questions for you to ponder, as you continue to explore The Story of Tranquility: What are the aspects, signs, and expressions of tranquility? How does a community find peace during a storm? What is the relationship between faith and fear? During this season of Lent, we have additional spiritual growth opportunities to help you explore The Stories that Save Us: Free Journal: Finding Your Stories of Faith – continue investigating each week’s scripture with guided prompts that help you uncover your personal faith stories. Book Study: Wholehearted Faith – Join the FUMCSD pastors in reading the stories of Rachel Held Evans as she wrestled with faith. Then join or host a watch party to hear Revs. Trudy, Hannah, and Brittany’s thoughts and hear the thoughts of those around you. Community Gathering: The Stories That Save Us – Live in San Diego? Join us in person to reflect on your Lent experience.

During this week’s Perspectives Pastors Podcast, Rev. Hannah and Rev. Brittany focus on the Story of Tranquility, as inspired by Matthew 8:23-27, the story of Jesus calming the storm – giving orders to the winds and the lake. It’s part of the multi-episode conversation the female pastors of First United Methodist Church have been having about The Stories That Save Us. Through this digital Bible study, the two reverends give their perspective on how they would act if they were in the storm with Jesus and explain what they think this miracle story represents. They discuss: How crossing the lake was an allegory for the early Christian church and that by answering the call to be Christian, you may face more frequent storms. The communal experience of life’s storms and how they affect individuals throughout a community at different levels. How we can foster a culture of tranquility within our communities. We invite you to continue the conversation with friends and family, joining our in-person Convergence discussion group, or visiting our Patreon community where you can unlock more content and inspiration while engaging in online discussion. Here are some questions for you to ponder, as you continue to explore The Story of Tranquility: What are the aspects, signs, and expressions of tranquility? How does a community find peace during a storm? What is the relationship between faith and fear? During this season of Lent, we have additional spiritual growth opportunities to help you explore The Stories that Save Us: Free Journal: Finding Your Stories of Faith – continue investigating each week’s scripture with guided prompts that help you uncover your personal faith stories. Book Study: Wholehearted Faith – Join the FUMCSD pastors in reading the stories of Rachel Held Evans as she wrestled with faith. Then join or host a watch party to hear Revs. Trudy, Hannah, and Brittany’s thoughts and hear the thoughts of those around you. Community Gathering: The Stories That Save Us – Live in San Diego? Join us in person to reflect on your Lent experience.

In this episode of Perspectives Pastors Podcast, the female pastors of the First United Methodist Church of San Diego continue their exploration of The Stories That Save Us – some of the favorite stories of the gospels. Today’s conversation is about The Story of Cooperation – inspired by the story of feeding of the multitude, the only miracle story that appears in all four gospels. Rev. Trudy and Rev. Hannah look at the version that appears in the Gospel of John 6:1-14 (CEB) and the disciples’ initial dismissal of available contributions, stating the available food won’t be nearly enough to feed the crowd. But through Jesus’ love, leadership, and compassion, the assembled community bands together in cooperation to feed each other – an action that goes against our selfish nature. Through this digital Bible study, the two female pastors discuss: The potential impact of a community-centered life The purpose of the miracle stories and how to interpret them when you have a scientific mindset The role of prophets as Divine perspective of human events We invite you to continue the conversation with friends and family, joining our in-person Convergence discussion group, or visiting our Patreon community where you can unlock more content and inspiration while engaging in online discussion. Here are some questions for you to ponder, as you continue to explore The Story of Cooperation: What do you think about the miracle stories in the Gospels? What is the difference between sharing a meal and feeding the thousands? What is the most impactful experience of cooperation that you’ve witnessed? During this season of Lent, we have additional spiritual growth opportunities to help you explore The Stories that Save Us: Free Journal: Finding Your Stories of Faith – continue investigating each week’s scripture with guided prompts that help you uncover your personal faith stories. Book Study: Wholehearted Faith – Join the FUMCSD pastors in reading the stories of Rachel Held Evans as she wrestled with faith. Then join or host a watch party to hear Revs. Trudy, Hannah, and Brittany’s thoughts and hear the thoughts of those around you. Community Gathering: The Stories That Save Us – Live in San Diego? Join us in person to reflect on your Lent experience.

In this episode of Perspectives Pastors Podcast, the female pastors of the First United Methodist Church of San Diego continue their exploration of The Stories That Save Us – some of the favorite stories of the gospels. Today’s conversation is about The Story of Cooperation – inspired by the story of feeding of the multitude, the only miracle story that appears in all four gospels. Rev. Trudy and Rev. Hannah look at the version that appears in the Gospel of John 6:1-14 (CEB) and the disciples’ initial dismissal of available contributions, stating the available food won’t be nearly enough to feed the crowd. But through Jesus’ love, leadership, and compassion, the assembled community bands together in cooperation to feed each other – an action that goes against our selfish nature. Through this digital Bible study, the two female pastors discuss: The potential impact of a community-centered life The purpose of the miracle stories and how to interpret them when you have a scientific mindset The role of prophets as Divine perspective of human events We invite you to continue the conversation with friends and family, joining our in-person Convergence discussion group, or visiting our Patreon community where you can unlock more content and inspiration while engaging in online discussion. Here are some questions for you to ponder, as you continue to explore The Story of Cooperation: What do you think about the miracle stories in the Gospels? What is the difference between sharing a meal and feeding the thousands? What is the most impactful experience of cooperation that you’ve witnessed? During this season of Lent, we have additional spiritual growth opportunities to help you explore The Stories that Save Us: Free Journal: Finding Your Stories of Faith – continue investigating each week’s scripture with guided prompts that help you uncover your personal faith stories. Book Study: Wholehearted Faith – Join the FUMCSD pastors in reading the stories of Rachel Held Evans as she wrestled with faith. Then join or host a watch party to hear Revs. Trudy, Hannah, and Brittany’s thoughts and hear the thoughts of those around you. Community Gathering: The Stories That Save Us – Live in San Diego? Join us in person to reflect on your Lent experience.

In this episode of Perspectives Pastors Podcast, Rev. Trudy and Rev. Brittany dive into Mark 2:1-12 – the story of the four men who bring a paralytic to Jesus … by lowering him through a roof. It’s a bold move that requires physical strength, courage, and strategic thinking. And the result is healing and a release from condemnation. It’s a story of advocacy that the female pastors believe everyone can apply to their faith stories today. to our spiritual stories today. They look at the story from multiple angles, talking about: Societal beliefs on disease, sin, healing, and forgiveness. The true meaning of advocacy. How advocacy can bring about healing and miracle work today. We invite you to continue the conversation with friends and family, joining our in-person Convergence discussion group, or visiting our Patreon community where you can unlock more content and inspiration while engaging in online discussion (head over to patreon.com/fumcsd to learn more!). Here are some questions for you to ponder, as you continue to explore The Story of Advocates: What does it cost to be an advocate? For whom are you willing to be an advocate? Why does the healing of some people make others angry? During this season of Lent, we have additional spiritual growth opportunities to help you explore The Stories that Save Us: Free Journal: Finding Your Stories of Faith – continue investigating each week’s scripture with guided prompts that help you uncover your personal faith stories. Book Study: Wholehearted Faith – Join the FUMCSD pastors in reading the stories of Rachel Held Evans as she wrestled with faith. Then join or host a watch party to hear Revs. Trudy, Hannah, and Brittany’s thoughts and hear the thoughts of those around you. Community Gathering: The Stories That Save Us – Live in San Diego? Join us in person to reflect on your Lent experience.