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Multiple media outlets captured images of Maxwell jogging on the prison's 400-meter outdoor track at FCI Tallahassee. One photo series from November shows her in grey sweats doing laps in the recreation yard, behind barbed wire and perimeter fencing.    In early 2024, she was reported to have taken part in a prison-organised half-marathon event—running 52 laps around the track to cover the 13.1-mile distance—with other inmates, while also participating in yoga and Pilates classes hosted by the facility.The jogging routine has also become a part of wider discussions about the conditions at FCI Tallahassee and Maxwell's treatment while incarcerated. Reports have noted that the prison offers a relatively broad recreation program for its low-security status, including fitness options, arts, and language classes, which Maxwell reportedly uses.to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-epstein-chronicles--5003294/support.

Lesley Logan calls out the performance review bias that measures women by their “likability” instead of their impact—and why that needs to end. This week's episode is a fiery reminder that your work deserves recognition, not personality notes. Lesley unpacks how bias shows up in feedback, how leaders can fix it, and why celebrating your wins out loud is a powerful self-advocacy.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Data showing high-performing women get more personality critiques than men.Why unconscious bias impacts women's growth and confidence in their roles.How leaders can create fair and constructive performance review systems.Why sharing your personal wins helps shift culture and visibility.How Lesley reframed “bragging” as a radical act of self-respect.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsThe Female Quotient® - https://www.instagram.com/p/DGvdCr2NVoL If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday.Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:44  Hi, Be It babe. How are you? We're almost there. We're almost to the holiday and then the chaos, and I'm gonna go on winter tour. We're almost there. We're not there yet. We got an extra week before that one holiday comes up, and I think that's great. And if you don't live in the States then you are just doing great. Lesley Logan 1:07  All right, it's the FYF episode. So this is where it's short, sweet. Get you thinking about ways you could be it till you see it. I get to riff on some things. We get to know each other better. Send your wins in to beitpod.com/questions. Send in a question as well, we answer those on the recap. Those happen on Thursdays. Interviews happen on Tuesdays. I'm fucking loving the interviews that are coming up, and we have a really great one coming up that's gonna lead into our habit series. So hope you're subscribed to the channel so you never miss an episode from us. Lesley Logan 1:29  Okay, this was an interesting thing. I don't know if it inspired me or pissed me off, so we're gonna remind ourselves together. So it says around 76% of high performing women reported, reportedly received negative feedback from their managers, compared to just 2% of high performing men. Oh yeah, this one pissed me off. This comes from data collected from 23,000 employees across 250 organizations, by the way, so not a small, not a small thing. Why is this happening? Unconscious bias leads managers, male or female, to typically evaluate women during performance reviews on their personality rather than the work they contribute. Are they easy to work with? Do they get along with everyone? Are they likable or collaborative? Doesn't it, I just want to, I just want to be fucking pissed. I'm pissed off, right? So like no one's asking if a guy is likable, which, by the way, like often they smell, or things like that, like no one's asking. They're valued on the work that they do, but it's always been this way, and we have to figure out how to change this. I think it comes from like, raising girls to be quiet, stop doing that. We need to raise them to brag, you know, and like, we need to raise like we need to raise them not to be like, oh, you know, make sure, no, tell people how you feel. You know, it's important. So I think this is an interesting thing. I don't know how we solve this problem, but if you are a leader who gives reviews, maybe make sure that, if you're telling women that their person, like their personality, has some issues, make sure you do with men too, or don't do with either of them, right? These areas of feedback don't necessarily touch on women's performance, which hurts both the employee and the employer. That's right. The employee, remember, is a high performer, she's going to be looking for concrete ways to grow and progress in her career. If she's receiving feedback on how nice she is. Well, she might not, she might start looking for work elsewhere. Managers, keep it constructive and hold on to top talent. This is so true. If you've got these high achieving women working for you, but you're busy working on things that they need to change about themselves. They're going to go somewhere else who wants them, right? And you're also not helping them better themselves for the work that they're doing for you. So I love it. I agree. We need to consider how we are, the expectations on women, because they are doing so much. I'm not I'm not trying to shit on the men, because, like, there are some really great men out there, but I do think that we are missing out on some good stuff, and we're not treating people in a way that allows everybody to win. And there is a way, like, there's no pie, right? So if, if you're going to do performance reviews around likeability. You got to do it for everybody. If you're just going to do it on performance, you got to do it for everybody like you can't have that bias, and if you do have that bias, it's probably a good time to get that checked out. And maybe you need to change your review process. And if it's happening to you, at your review process, get inspired by these other ladies and find work somewhere else where you can be challenged because you're fucking amazing, right? And start celebrating your wins in front of them, right? That might help them. I think sometimes it's really easy to go, oh, you know, like to downplay the things that you did. Lesley Logan 4:33  So okay, let's start bragging about you guys. We have Charlotte Coker. She said, I finally launched my website after several months of working on it. Little by little, I'm very proud of myself for doing something so outside my comfort zone, my home studio, feels like it's really rocking and rolling. Yay, yay, Charlotte. It is really rocking and rolling. You are doing a lot, I know, like it's really easy to go, Oh my gosh, I expect to be done by now. But like, little by little. I mean, the thing is, is you actually, nothing happens overnight, like websites, especially, they take time. So I'm super proud of you. I think you're doing great work, and I am so excited that you are kicking off your home studio before it is even ready. That is being it till you see it full and on. And so way to go. Thank you for sharing that with us. You guys need to share your wins at beitpod.com/questions. Lesley Logan 5:23  Okay, my win. Okay. I think if you've been listening to podcast for a long time, you know, I've been on a hobby hunt. I think I have found my hobby, and it's not getting my nails done. I am so excited. We had guests come on to talk about tarot, and I was so obsessed with her, and she sent me a deck, and I'm not really sure if her episodes out yet or not, so we'll save more information on that later. But ever since then, then I, like, found this book that helps me study tarot, and I can do it with writing. But then I found another book that's a little bit different, the same they all have, they all say the same things, but in a different way, which helps me, like, repeat what I'm learning. And then I found an app. It's like the Duolingo. They call the Duolingo for tarot, and I'm gonna reach out and see if they want to do ads, because I'm kind of obsessed with it. Every single day I I do this, and it's not easy, right? Like, it's definitely something I feel like I'm gonna have a better grasp on the more I practice out loud. This is kind of the ones I like, I have to, like, read out loud and do it out loud. But at any rate, I'm super excited because I was a I was a little like, should I call it a hobby? I've only been, like, playing it, but now we're like, four months, and I do it daily, and I really love it, and it is a great way for me as a person who's like, I want a journal. I want to have some more self-reflection time. It helps me helps have some self-reflection. So I can't wait for you to hear the episode, because you're gonna hear someone who's never delved into tarot, like interview this person, and now you'll know I'm, like, a hobbyist right now, and (inaudible) to do readings for people, just maybe for myself. But I am just like feeling really excited that I think I have a hobby that I like, want to stick with, and I have been trying to find a hobby for years, and I'm feeling joy around it, and that's my win. Okay, what's yours? Send it into the Be It Pod. Lesley Logan 7:09  Here is your affirmation for the weekend. I deserve information and I deserve moments of silence, too. I deserve information and I deserve moments of silence, too. I deserve information and I deserve moments of silence, too. You guys, as an introvert who likes people, I love my moments of silence as much as I love seeing you and getting your information. So that affirmation really feels like it's very representative. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 7:44  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 8:27  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 8:31  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 8:36  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 8:43  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 8:46  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Community: The Hidden Engine Behind Every Successful Cash PT Clinic In this episode, Doc Danny Matta shares the single theme that stood out after spending a full week embedded inside four different cash-based and boutique rehab businesses in Washington, D.C.: community. He breaks down why community involvement is the ultimate competitive advantage, how it fuels long-term growth, and why you can't fake it—or skip it—if you want a thriving practice. Quick Ask If this episode challenges the way you think about growing your practice, share it with another clinician who needs to hear it—and tag @dannymattaPT so he can reshare it. Episode Summary Documentation burden solved: AI scribes like Clair eliminate notes so you stay present with patients. The D.C. trip: Danny spent full days inside four thriving clinics, observing their operations, patients, and culture. One takeaway: Every successful clinic shared the same backbone—deep community involvement. Community is earned: You can't fake participation; you must show up consistently and authentically. Clinician examples: Pilates studios, running groups, boutique fitness hubs—all thriving because owners live inside the communities they serve. Your niche = your tribe: If you're not plugged into your niche's world, someone else will be. Give more than you take: Communities reward contributors, not extractors. Lessons & Takeaways Community drives retention: Patients stick when they feel connected—not just treated. You must participate: Go to races, gyms, events, tournaments; be where your niche actually lives. You can't fake interest: If you hate running, don't try to be a running PT—hire someone who loves it. Your presence builds reputation: When people see you consistently, trust builds effortlessly. Local involvement compounds: Over years, you become a recognizable part of your city's health ecosystem. Mindset & Motivation Play the long game: Community isn't built in 30 days—it's built through years of showing up. Pick what you enjoy: Your energy is higher and your authenticity obvious when you actually like the niche you serve. Give first, receive later: The tribe takes care of contributors. Local roots matter: Even if you grew up moving around (like Danny), you can build community intentionally. Community is a moat: No amount of marketing can replace genuine involvement. Pro Tips for Clinic Owners Use an AI scribe: Tools like Clair free up hours so you can deepen relationships, not write notes. Engage where your niche lives: Join their gyms, events, groups, classes—don't just "network." Participate. Host or join local events: Run groups, wellness fairs, meetups, workshops, boutique fitness partnerships. Be a connector: Bring other local business owners together—become the hub. Hire for gaps: If you don't love a niche, hire clinicians who genuinely do. Notable Quotes "You can't fake community. People know when you're genuinely involved versus when you're just showing up for patients." "If you pour into your community, your community will take care of you." "Some of these clinics are like local celebrities in their niche—because they've earned it." "Pick the community you enjoy. You'll never stick with something you secretly hate." Action Items Identify one niche you naturally enjoy being around. Join three of their events or classes this month. Start conversations—not pitches—with people in your niche community. Partner with one local gym, coach, or instructor. Evaluate your schedule and offload notes with Clair so you can spend more time engaging locally. Programs Mentioned PT Biz Part-Time to Full-Time 5-Day Challenge (Free): Get crystal clear on how to replace your income and go full time. Join here. Resources & Links PT Biz Website Free 5-Day Challenge MeetClair AI — Free 7-day trial About the Host: Doc Danny Matta — physical therapist, entrepreneur, founder of PT Biz and Athlete's Potential. He's helped over 1,000 clinicians start, grow, and scale successful cash practices and is committed to developing leaders who build meaningful, community-rooted businesses.

Lesley and Brad recap key insights from physical therapist Dr. Jen Fraboni (@docjenfit), co-host of The Optimal Body Podcast. Known for helping people move with less pain and more confidence, Dr. Jen redefines pain as an “alarm,” not a stop sign—your body's way of asking for better care and awareness. Lesley and Brad unpack her practical strategies for building stability before flexibility, tuning in before you train, and aging with strength and ease.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Lesley's pain-as-alarm concept to daily self-check habits.Brad overcomes foot pain by staying active instead of stopping.How Lesley's yoga experience illustrated “stability before flexibility” The importance of reflection and consistency when pain shows up unexpectedly.How building strength supports graceful aging and confidence in movement.Episode References/Links:OPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tour0Pilates Journal Expo - https://xxll.co/pilatesjournalCambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.com/waitlistAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsDr. Jen Fraboni's Website - https://jen.healthThe Optimal Body Podcast - https://www.docjenfit.com/podcastDr. Jen Fraboni's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/docjenfitEpisode 589: Brad Bizjack - https://beitpod.com/ep589 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  When we feel pain, really doing some sort of, creating some sort of, like, okay, hold on, what's my sleep like, what's my intake like, what's my fuel like, have I been consistent? You know, just do some reflection. Lesley Logan 0:12  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:51  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the empowering convo I had with Jen Fraboni in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, you've missed out on an incredible interview with DocJenFit. That's her Instagram handle or her handle everywhere. So many of you love her, know her, and this was a really cool, I thought, very vulnerable convo as well. She shared a lot about going on her life, how she handles things. I love when people are like, just a human and so it's gonna be really good. So I can't wait to recap it, but before we do that, today is November 20th 2025, and we have two days to celebrate. And to be honest, there was like seven, so we could have chosen. There was a few that I was like, well, I don't use less, so we can't use use less day, because I'm so not participating. But there's a couple others, but we're going to focus on two of them. One is the Great American Smokeout. The American Cancer Society sponsors a Great American Smokeout on the third Thursday of November annually, challenging smokers to give up cigarettes for 24 hours. If you or a loved one smoke cigarettes, consider joining the movement and take the first step towards quitting cigarettes forever. How? Let's both try to do something tough for a day. I'll give up either coffee, sugar, social media. Brad Crowell 2:10  You're you are allowed to pitch this to them. Lesley Logan 2:13  Oh, this is how you're gonna pitch it. Brad Crowell 2:14  Yeah. This is how you're gonna pitch this to them. Lesley Logan 2:15  This is how you're gonna pitch it. So you're gonna, you, if you're a non-smoker, if you're a smoker, then you can tell another smoker, you guys could do it together. But if you're a non-smoker, asking a smoker, then you're gonna say, I'm gonna give up something they know. You're gonna have a hard time giving up for 24 hours. Brad Crowell 2:30  Like, maybe it's Instagram, maybe it's chocolate, could be sugar.Lesley Logan 2:35  Coffee, you know something like that and you give up smoking, think of it as a reset, not a rule. So.Brad Crowell 2:43  And that's what you can also tell them, It's a reset, not a rule. Lesley Logan 2:45  Well, Brad, can we, like, let's how hard, can we talk about it? Brad Crowell 2:50  We can certainly talk about it. Lesley Logan 2:51  Okay, you quit smoking. Brad Crowell 2:53  I did quit smoking. Lesley Logan 2:54  If he had been a smoker when we met, it would have not we would not be married 10 years. Brad Crowell 2:58  It's true. Lesley Logan 2:59  Because we would not have gone on a date. Brad Crowell 3:00  Yeah. I mean, it's. Lesley Logan 3:02  My grandfather was a smoker. Brad Crowell 3:04  It doesn't smell good. Lesley Logan 3:05  Yeah. So I have had two grandfathers who are massive smokers, one who lost a lung to smoking, and another one who had multiple heart problems, and the heart doctor refused to operate on him unless he quit smoking. So I, like, this is a big like, personal thing, because I lost family members to smoking. But I know it's not easy. So Brad.Brad Crowell 3:26  Yeah, I mean, I've told this story before, so it was the decision to smoke or to quit smoking was, for me, it was made emotionally, which is what made it easy. The decision to stop, to stay with that initial decision was actually quite challenging, you know, because of the addiction, because of nicotine, but because I wanted to sing more than I wanted to smoke, that was the emotional decision. It was like, oh my god, this is a very I just have to stop, like, I can't, I can't be on stage and not be able to sing. So that I think that was hard, because I had to hit a wall in order for that decision to become emotional and then for it to actually happen in my life. But okay, great. That's step one. Then step two is consistently not smoking when I used to smoke. So in the car with the window down, or I don't remember, you know, walking out of my apartment complex, there was a there was, like, part of my routine, you know, and doing those things, like continuing to do life, you're going to run back into those instances where you used to do the habit and would always make me think, this is what I would normally pull out a cigarette. And so that was, that was a constant battle for, honestly, for just a few weeks. Lesley Logan 4:56  Well, it's interesting, because so in a couple of weeks, we have a habit series starting and in one of the episodes, I talked about how to unravel a habit. And for smoking, like all we can be completely honest, there is an addictive element to it, in that they made it addictive. So you have a habit, you smoke when you're in traffic. My old roommate, she would she when she quit smoking was the hardest thing, because she's like, Lesley, I'm in traffic for 45 minutes, and I used to just sit there and smoke, and now I am not. So she had lollipops and teas and coffees because she needed something to do in the car. She actually had, like, the patches like, well, that helps you quit. So she's like, I don't even have the craving to smoke. I have the habit. So I will talk about how to unravel a habit in that series in December, so make sure you're paying attention. Okay, the other day, this is really important to Brad and I that we wanted to bring it up. (inaudible)Brad Crowell 5:47  Second thing we wanted to remember today. Lesley Logan 5:50  Yes. So it's Transgender Day of Remembrance. For generations, the transgender population has suffered various forms of abuse and even death for or murder, so we'll call it that, for challenging the views, notions and stereotypes around male and female identity. Every year, we set aside today as Transgender Day of Remembrance. This holiday is meant to honor, commemorate and memorialize those who face discrimination and stigma on a daily basis across this nation. This holiday is also meant to advocate for transgenders people's rights, as well as focus on the persistent struggles they face in their everyday lives and how others can share their love, support and hope. If you listen to this podcast and you have a fucking problem with transgenders, I am just going to be on, I need you to explore why. These are just people. They're just people, and they've been around forever. And I bring it, I bring it up in one of the FYF is coming up about like, how in the indigenous cultures, they actually have people, they already had words for this. This is something. It's actually a fucking cool thing. Like you have the ability to see the world the way they see it through both lenses. It's a powerful thing. And I fucking clearly I'm pissed about it, but I get so annoyed. We flew on a plane the other day, and no one has a problem using a toilet on a plane, but all of a sudden they have a fucking problem of sharing a bathroom with another person of a different gender, and it's like, what are we talking about here? You just shared a bathroom. So I don't understand when they make neutral bathrooms, how people get pissed about that. I also just listened to this one thing. If I could find the reel I'll send it to the team to link it. If you don't see the link below, it's because I couldn't find it. But this person is is explaining how it's sort of the safety of women to in the bathrooms, of why they want people using the bathrooms of their own, like birth certificate, right? And this one person is a trans man. He goes, so what you're actually saying is that men are a danger to women and you don't want them in their bathrooms. So that's the problem. We should solve that problem. We shouldn't be policing genitals. So I just get really upset because it's just bothersome to me. Why do we why do we care so much we have healthcare issues in this country. We have poverty issue. We have children who don't have enough food. Brad Crowell 8:06  We have food issues, yeah. Lesley Logan 8:07  The higher percentage of people. Brad Crowell 8:09  We have water issues. Did you know, I don't remember what the number is, but like, (inaudible) I think, I think it was Jackson, Mississippi, like, they don't have running water in in, like, many parts of the city. I don't know what the the numbers are, but like, that was a thing in a couple years ago. Lesley Logan 8:24  Yes, no, there's a higher percentage of people who are listening to this show that know someone who's homeless, who is a pover in poverty, who has food. What do you call it? Like a food uncertainty? Then then know of someone who's transgendered and so why? Like, what are we doing? So I'm just pissed about it. I'm just over it. I'm over people being so uptight and like that they're a threat to who you are. You know, it goes to that whole thing where it's like, if you don't like abortions, don't get one. If you don't like gay marriage, if somebody of your same sex asks you to marry them, don't say yes. Like, you don't have to do any of these things. You don't have to be trans like this is I just get annoyed. I'm pissed. Anyways, so today is the day to remember the people who have been fighting to exist as they feel like they should exist, and we should do what we can to honor those people. And if you don't know anyone, maybe consider looking at a community service organization in your area that you could donate to if you are listening from Las Vegas, when you buy food from the Bronze Cafe, their proceeds, part of their proceeds go to the LGBTQ community for mental health. So it's really, really cool. We use their restaurant for all of our retreats here in Las Vegas. We can help support that.Brad Crowell 9:37  And they have a second location at the.Lesley Logan 9:43  Oh Brad's so excited. Brad Crowell 9:45  The conservation preserve, the Springs Preserve here, which has has a massive cactus garden. So go to the cactus garden. Go eat lunch, and you'll be also helping support (inaudible) the transgender community here.Lesley Logan 9:58  Yeah, when you come visit Las Vegas, you should go to Springs Preserves, and then you can go to Bronze Cafe. Okay, cool stuff coming up now. So here we go. Brad Crowell 10:06  All right, so here's what we got coming up on the docket, actually, next week, or Yyeah, literally, in a few days, is the Black Friday Cyber Monday coming up for you've probably already been inundated with everything that's been crazy, but for us, we're going to do it actually, during the old school Black Friday Cyber, Cyber Monday is even new. Black Friday, so it's the 26th to the first of December for OPC only, y'all so check your email for more details, starting yesterday. So just go check your emails if you haven't already, we've got an offer for you with OPC.Lesley Logan 10:37  If you didn't get an email, it's because you have not signed up for our emails, or you unsubscribed from us, and we don't take that personally. You could just resubscribe. But yeah, the dates will be November 26th December 1st. Brad Crowell 10:47  If you're wondering what it is and you didn't get the email, just DM us and we can send you the right place.Lesley Logan 10:52  We're really excited about this sale, and it's the one time of the year we do it, so take advantage. Don't ask us on December 2nd for it. It's not how it works. It's actually a lot of work. Brad Crowell 11:01  Speaking of December, we're gonna be on the road again for our winter tour for OPC, and the actual dates we're gonna get, it's like starting on the seventh or sixth.Lesley Logan 11:11  No, it's like the fifth, I think it's the fifth in Colorado Springs, and it ends on. Brad Crowell 11:15  Oh, yeah, we gotta drive there, though, so we leave.Lesley Logan 11:18  We leave earlier than it starts. We come home the day that it ends so but it's like, it's like, December 5th through the January 6th or January 7th. Brad Crowell 11:28  And we do come home the day that ends. Lesley Logan 11:30  I, yeah, I know that we sound like when it comes to this tour that we're like, not organized. The last time we recorded, we had no idea where we're going. And now we do, and it's huge. The whole tour is listed, 23 cities. Brad Crowell 11:42  Yeah, 23. Lesley Logan 11:43  Colorado Springs. Brad Crowell 11:45  23 public events. Lesley Logan 11:46  St Louis.Brad Crowell 11:47  Yeah, the fifth, the first the first event is on December 5 in Colorado Springs, then we go to Fayetteville.Lesley Logan 11:54  Oh, Fayetteville. Oh, I'm so sorry. How could I skip Arkansas. Brad Crowell 11:57  Then St Louis on the 7th. Lesley Logan 11:58  Then St Louis, then Detroit, then Columbus. Brad Crowell 12:01  No, then Lexington. Lesley Logan 12:03  I'm going to Lexington. Brad Crowell 12:04  You're going to Lexington.Lesley Logan 12:04  Oh, I am going to Lexington, but I'm going in that order.Brad Crowell 12:06  Then you're going to Columbus, then you're going to Detroit.Lesley Logan 12:09  What? How does the map work? Am I going like zigzag?Brad Crowell 12:14  Believe it or not, they're almost in line. Yeah, they're, they are.Brad Crowell 12:18  I don't understand the middle. I'm so sorry. Okay, then we go to Pittsburgh. Lesley Logan 12:22  Okay, Pittsburgh. Then we go to. Brad Crowell 12:25  Rochester Lesley Logan 12:26  RochesterBrad Crowell 12:27  New York Lesley Logan 12:27  Oh, yeah, we're going to, do you say Rochester or you go Rochester. How do you say it? Brad Crowell 12:31  RochesterLesley Logan 12:32  RochesterBrad Crowell 12:33  Rochester, New York. And then we go to Boston, Cape Cod, Hartford, Connecticut. That's a new one for us. Hershey, Pennsylvania. We're coming back Rehoboth Beach. Lesley Logan 12:42  That's a new one for us. Brad Crowell 12:43  That's new, to Delaware, that'll be just after Christmas, and then we have Washington, DC, Virginia Beach, Charlotte, North Carolina. That's new for us. We've got Delray. This is Florida. We're gonna be hoofing it from North Carolina all the way down to Delray, Florida. This is new.Lesley Logan 12:59  Christmas Eve, Del Rey. Brad Crowell 13:01  Nope, New Year's Eve Del Rey. On a roll, here.Lesley Logan 13:07  You guys Del Rey is near Fort Lauderdale, Hollywood, Florida, correct? Brad Crowell 13:11  Yeah. It's just north of Fort Lauderdale, I think. Lesley Logan 13:14  So our Miami stop has moved up a little bit because most of you are driving from that area anyway, so you're welcome. And then we do New Year's Day with our Pilates crew that's in Tampa.Brad Crowell 13:26  Yes. Lesley Logan 13:26  And then we go to Pensacola. Brad Crowell 13:28  Yes. Then New Orleans. Lesley Logan 13:30  New Orleans, and then Houston. Brad Crowell 13:31  Then, Houston. Lesley Logan 13:32  Houston. We haven't been to Houston in years.Brad Crowell 13:34  Yeah, it's been quite a few years for us to be in Houston. That'll be on January 4th and then fifth in Austin, and then Phoenix, we're coming to you on the seventh.Lesley Logan 13:42  Yeah. So get your tickets at opc.me/events, by the way. Brad Crowell 13:46  Nope, opc.me/tour, opc.me/tour. Lesley Logan 13:50  There's two links. Okay, sorry, opc.me/tour is where you get your tickets. And at the time we're recording this, we're over 57% sold out. By the time you're hearing this, it's going to be way closer to sold out, because literally, nine events only have one spot right now in them. So go to opc.me/tour. Bring your friends. Also in December, we didn't do a Profitable Pilates Black Friday, Cyber Monday this year, because we want you to focus on, so save the date, December 26th or the 31st that will be on the Profitable Pilates newsletter list. So you have to be on that one. So for the Pilates instructors studio owners who want business flights, we're gonna have some special deal on Agency. We've never done it before. So make sure you're watching your inbox for that if you don't get those emails, just DM us and the team will help you out. Brad Crowell 14:36  By the way, we're 55% sold out. Lesley Logan 14:39  Oh, I know, but we're. Brad Crowell 14:40  I just checked. Lesley Logan 14:41  I know, but it hasn't been updated in 48 hours, so.Brad Crowell 14:44  Maybe even more, so it might be closer to 60. Good stuff.Lesley Logan 14:48  Yeah, I think so. And then after our tour, we come home for one day, kick off, eLevate, get our roots done, get our nails done by (inaudible), and then we go to Huntington Beach. Teach for the Pilates Journal Expo. This is a really cool two-day event, huge lineup of teachers. I don't I it's like a fucking party. So you should just go to xxll.co/pilatesjournal. So just two Xs guys, xxll.co/pilatesjournal. And then if you aren't already on the waitlist, you'll want to be on the waitlist because also, in January, we're going to open up the early bird registration for our Pilates retreat in Cambodia. This we just came back from. Brad Crowell 15:28  Y'all it is going to be amazing. Lesley Logan 15:30  I'm making so many mistakes, because we just got back and it was the coolest retreat of life. No offense to the people we've been on retreats with before, you were amazing.Brad Crowell 15:37  Incredible retreat. Lesley Logan 15:38  But like, if you have ever thought, oh, my god, they must get bored of this. We don't. We had the best fucking time. It was like we I just loved it. So I can't wait to take you,Brad Crowell 15:48  Yeah, and I think, I think this year is going to be sorry, next year, So 2026, is going to be even better. And I know we've had a lot of interest already, but one of the things we're going to do differently, in January, we're going to have a call for everyone who's curious about this, the retreat, all the questions. We're going to have a couple of our past retreaters join us live, and we're going to have them just answer those questions. You can ask them directly. They can share with you their experience, you know, the process of getting there, like, did they feel safe? What kind of food was it? What kind of activities did they enjoy? All the things that you might be curious about. And I'm telling you, it is gonna next year, is gonna sell quickly. So, get yourself on the waitlist. Go to crowsnestretreats.com and we can't wait to see it all there.Lesley Logan 16:34  Every group is got its own, different vibe. This group, we were like, rapping in the in the bus on the way to like, no one took a nap. Usually people are napping. We were like, half a native. So anyways, crowsnestretreats.com, crowsnestretreats.com/waitlist get you on the waitlist. Okay, in February, that is when our Agency Mini is happening. That is our three day event. I don't know if we're doing a second one next year. We're going to try, but you know, we'll see. So you're going back to Agency Mini, you want to get on the waitlist for that if you want to make sure you don't miss the early bird discount, prfit.biz/mini holy fucking molly, there's a lot of events coming up. So Poland and Brussels, that is in March, you guys. And I mean, a lot of questions about, are you doing anything in Europe? Anything? This is it. We're going, we're like, literally not getting on a plane until March, and I don't have plans to get on a plane after March until Cambodia. So if you want to see me, you need to check out the Poland Controlology Pilates conference. xxll.co/poland and or Brussels, xxll.co/brussels, two events, different workshops to both events, you can you're welcome to come to both. Karen Frischmann is actually collabing on that with me and the host studios, so you get two amazing teachers for the price of a weekend. And it's pretty kind of it's pretty awesome. So different workshops, plus there's a day of privates and semi private classes. So you can also jump in and enjoy some workouts with us. You don't want to miss it, because I don't know when we're coming back. Okay? And then we're gonna leave that. Brad and I are gonna do a vacation. Brad Crowell 18:08  What? Weird. Lesley Logan 18:09  About nine, 10 days vacation in Europe, and then April after our vacation, we wrap up in April at P.O.T. London, and now it's official. Now if you've been hearing me say, I'm not allowed to tell you, I don't know if we're allowed to tell you, we can tell you I signed a contract. I don't I don't I don't know if there's a link out yet, but I'm sure there is. So just look at like, P.O.T. London from Balanced Body, and you'll find it. All right, oh my gosh, okay, should we let's get to this audience question, and we got to get to this amazing recap episode.Brad Crowell 18:34  All right, so the audience question this week was from @audreyphipps1726, on YouTube. She, this is for the Pilates equipment for beginners video. She said, hey, what size is that Try Me Stability Ball. I would love to find one. Lesley Logan 18:50  Yeah, so the triad ball that's.Brad Crowell 18:53  I was wondering. Lesley Logan 18:54  Audrey, it took me a second. I was like, try me. I'd have to Google this, because sometimes people go, hey, what do you think of this item? And I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about, but I realize it's my accent. It's the triad ball, and I don't actually know the dimensions. It's a purple ball that you don't want to fill all the way up. It's smaller than a I guess it'd be like, volleyball size when it's filled up, but you want it to be a little squishy. And where did I get it. I think I went on Balanced Body. Let's see.Brad Crowell 19:24  The OPTP triad ball nine and a half inches. Lesley Logan 19:27  Is it purple? Brad Crowell 19:28  Um, yeah, it's purple. Lesley Logan 19:30  Yeah, the OPTP. Brad Crowell 19:32  Yeah. OPTP triad ball nine and a half inches. Lesley Logan 19:35  You can get it at like, Target. Brad Crowell 19:37  Yeah, even at Walmart. Lesley Logan 19:38  I'm not shopping at Target these days, but you can get on OPTP's website, they have a bunch. They have a huge website, lots of amazing stuff on TP actually, you'll kind of like, it's good products, good stuff. So if you have a question, you can text us at +13109055534, or submit it to beitpod.com/questions. You can also leave a win. And I love getting your wins, because I love helping people see like there's a celebration in everything. You know there's a reason to celebrate the whole every if you just watch the news and open up your phone, it fucking sucks. So you got to have a place where you know it's going to be some good news, and you might hear your win on a day you need to remind yourself that you had a fucking win.Brad Crowell 20:17  Yeah, that's true. Yeah, you are 100% right. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 20:23  Okay, welcome back. Let's talk about Dr. Jen Fraboni. Dr. Jen Fraboni, also known as Doc Jen Fit, is a physical therapist passionate about helping people move more with less pain and more confidence. She is the founder of Jen.Health, a platform and app designed to make strength, mobility and recovery accessible for everyone. Alongside her husband, she cohosts The Optimal Body Podcast. Her work has also been featured nationally, including on Good Morning America and NBC, where she shared simple strategies to ease back pain during the pandemic. So we well, it was just a great conversation, by the way, nobody knows this, but I get to watch the the full interview call, right? And. Lesley Logan 21:06  You watch it? Brad Crowell 21:07  Yeah, watch every single one of them. That's how I do prep. Oh, I thought you just listened, nope, 100% of the time watching the interview. So the beginning of it was really fun because you were saying that, basically you were like, oh my gosh, this is how my day is gonna go today. I'm so excited to start today with this interview.Lesley Logan 21:26  Well, because, because it was a Zoom call with Jen Fraboni. And I was like, it's Jen Fraboni. And then it was then she showed up, like, Oh my God. Like, I was like, I mean, I guess I could have looked up.Brad Crowell 21:39  Doc Jen Fit. Lesley Logan 21:40  I mean, I knew I was interviewing her at some point, but I just my brain didn't like keep her, keep her last name associated with her Instagram handle, but yeah, how fun is that? I don't know, maybe the team left in the outtakes. Yeah, it was so good. Brad Crowell 21:53  Yeah. So you know what, what the two of you were digging into. I thought it was just really great talking about paying because I I related a lot to that, especially this past year, I've actually had a lot of pain with my my foot. So anyway, you know. Lesley Logan 22:08  But well, that goes into, like, something like, what I liked that she addressed about pain was that, like, most of the time it's just an alarm. Especially if you didn't get an accident, like, and sometimes your pain is like, you're just sitting there, and all of a sudden something hurts in your body, and you're like, ah, this hurts. And I'm like, just sitting there, like, what are you talking about? So in that case, if it wasn't, like, you know, you fell down the stairs, you tripped across the street, you were in a car accident, if you have pain, it is your body going, Hey, hi. You're not taking good care of me, right? It's like, just trying to get your attention. And I just like, if we think of that as what it is, as opposed to, I have to stop doing everything that was associated with that, because this is what happens, right? People come to Pilates once a week. The goal is three to four times. Week four is better. That's the goal, right? But I have someone who'll come once a week, and they go, they'll see me the next week. Oh, last last week. My back hurt, so we need to be conscious of that. And it's like so there are six other days, plus the 23 hours of the day. I didn't see you. What did you do? How are you taking care of yourself? I'm not saying the Pilates doesn't didn't hurt you. What I am saying is more likely than not, it wasn't the Pilates, but the Pilates is the unique thing about your day, right? So it's, it's similar to, I have some stomach digestive issues, and I would go, Oh, I think I got gluten, or I must have had some dairy. When I found out that I'm also allergic to oats. And every fucking day I was having oat milk, right?. And I wasn't associating, like, any of the other boring food I was having all of the time, I was coming up with, like, this unique thing that could have happened, so I really like that.Brad Crowell 23:53  We were just with our friend, and the next day he was like, I think I got glutened yesterday. It must have been that meal that we ate, you know? And I said, you know, I'm I'm also not feeling 100% and then I thought about the restaurant, which is we've eaten at 100 times. And I was like, what did we do differently? And he had the spiciest Margarita I think I've ever tasted, and I was loading on the hot sauce. I was like, You know what, man, I wonder. I mean, look, it's possible that you got glutened but they were, they specifically came out and told us that they made this gluten free. So I'd be surprised. Maybe there was some leftover, something (inadible) but also, like, the two of us ate something that was pretty off the path. I like to eat spicy stuff, but, like, we ate a lot of it.Lesley Logan 24:39  His his his Margarita was almost undrinkable. Lesley Logan 24:42  It was crazy. You diluted it twice.Lesley Logan 24:44  And you know, I like a spicy mar I was like, I I think that was gonna provide a colonic, to be completely honest, anyways. But I just think, like, she gave some really great stuff, like she talked about her own personal experience, like she's got some back pain, and she's like, Oh, I've been sleeping less, I'm breastfeeding, I'm sitting more, and I'm not moving my body. So what can I do to be more conscious about the things that I need to give myself?Brad Crowell 25:06  Yeah, I think, I think, with the, with the the idea that people coming into class and saying, Oh, well, last week, I was in pain afterwards, you know, the what she mentioned, which I thought was really obvious but needed to be heard. She said, you know, if you're in the gym lifting and you like, tweak your back, obviously you're going to say, well, I shouldn't do that again. No, no problem, of course. But that was probably not that was the moment that things were stressed to the point of ouch. But that wasn't the only moment. There are definitely other things leading up to that exact moment of when, when your body is, like, we're done trying to hold it together here, now you're in pain. And she said, so, so there's other movements that you're probably doing in your life that are, it's cumulative, right? It's, it's, it's adding up over time, and then bam, maybe the moment that it happened was in a class when you're probably doing something particular that you wouldn't be normally doing, like doing a headstand, or whatever it might be, you know, being on one leg, you know, the, the, but, that's probably not where it started. Lesley Logan 26:16  I think we could all agree in this moment where we're not in pain, right? I hurt my knee doing a deadlift. When I hired my trainer, I said, Yeah, I've been dead lifting a lot lighter because it doesn't bother my knee. But the actual thing that's bothering my knee is the fact that I had weak inner thighs and hamstrings compared to my quads, and then the way my gait is on that leg, that's why my knee hurt. It just so happened that I felt the pain doing the deadlift. The deadlift is actually not the problem my form and my deadlift is not the problem. It is an in-balance and muscles on that leg. And so what can we be doing to make sure that we're taking, like, consistent care of ourselves, and then when we hear, when we feel pain, really doing some sort of creating, some sort of like, okay, hold on, what's my sleep like, what's my intake like, what's my fuel like, have I been consistent? So if you are someone who, like, doesn't work out for a week, and then goes and works out hard, like, I got to get in it, just so, you know, you're going to be in some pain afterwards because you didn't have consistency going into it. So, you know, just do some reflection before you go, oh, that's a problem.Brad Crowell 27:20  Speak about reflection, which, which is, this is pretty funny for, for if you have people coming in and saying, well, last time I did this, I hurt. Lesley Logan 27:29  Or if you are that person. Brad Crowell 27:30  Yeah or if you are that person, do you wake up and hurt like, should this? Does that mean you shouldn't sleep like? You know what I mean, the logic doesn't apply here. I just heard like. Lesley Logan 27:43  So this has nothing to do with that, but it's just my brain thing. Okay?. So this person goes, like, this, like, thing I saw. This person goes, I need to go on a vacation. And this other person goes, did you just come back from a vacation? And then it's like, you should just say, Did you have lunch yesterday? And they're like, yeah, that does that mean you need lunch today? Right? Like, yeah, like, you're if you're.Brad Crowell 28:06  Like, obviously, you're not gonna say, Well, I guess I shouldn't sleep because, because maybe you just slept on your shoulder, weird, or whatever. And also, too, it doesn't (inaudible) it also doesn't mean that your shoulder is broken or jacked up. It means you stressed it improperly for an extended period of time. Maybe you were sleeping on it weird, right? And how, like, you know, you know how that is, you know how that that feeling is. It could be your ankle or something where it takes a couple of hours for it to work itself out. And what's happening there, which I which I thought was interesting. She talks about how pain. It's a signal from the brain saying something is not 100% correct here. Something is not 100% correct here. Just a reminder. A reminder, a reminder.Lesley Logan 28:50  It's like, when you hit the button and the community goes, er, and you're like, let me hit that again, it goes, er, and you're like, I don't know why I'm expecting something different. Brad Crowell 28:58  Yeah, well, and here's how this, here's how this relates to what I loved. She said. She said, the more we don't use it, we lose it, right? You use it or lose it. You've heard that phrase a million times. But she said the thing that was that frustrates her the most is when she her clients come to her and say, the doctor told me I'm not allowed to do this anymore, right? The thing, whatever the thing is, and this is what related to me because, you know, a couple months, Well, geez, in February of this year, it's now, you know, November, I started to feel pain in my foot, in the top of my foot, it was like this pulling pain. It felt like fascia or nerves. I couldn't decide. I still can't decide. And for a long, long time, I just stopped things. I just stopped doing, you know, like, the pointing of my toe, stopped it. All the stuff that you do in yoga class, stopped it. I was like, I need some time off. Well, I gave up the time off, and it didn't fix it, right? So, then what? Then what it was the next thing we do? Started going to the chiropractor. Chiropractor couldn't figure out what's going on, right there. She's like, Hey, you're you're aligned. What are you talking about, right? So, you know, then I was like, must be these other things. So I'm starting to massage myself. I'm doing all this stuff. And then a couple, like, two months ago, I just decided, You know what, I'm just gonna get warm and I'm gonna keep using my foot. I'm just gonna keep using it. Because, you know, one of the things that she said is especially being pregnant a second time, she leaned into, you know, doing her workouts, when her body was was starting to, like, freak out, but her body was going through a major change, and she said, you know, maybe she modified the exercise, but she always felt better after doing her workout, despite being told, you know, you know, her body, you know, sending a signal. And I think, I think that we have to be careful with this. You know, same for me, I have to actually be careful with this. It's not no pain, no gain, yeah, it's not real. I don't agree with that. It's also, you know, there are, there are moments where your body is is trying to warn you on something, but you need to be able to decide for what that is and and understand, right? Is it like pain to the point of like damage, or are we talking that, that signal of warning, you know, that's like, Oh, you have to be cautious, right? Lesley Logan 31:12  Yeah. Well, it makes it so this morning, I was doing my first Pilates practice on the Reformer in three weeks. And I did not I was like, man, I got my Spine Corrector, and I was like, this not feel awesome. It didn't hurt. It just was like, right? And then I got in the Reformer, and the first overhead kind of was like, but then the second one felt better and the third one felt better. So it's not, it is no no pain, no gain. But is you, if you have a consistent practice of any kind of movement. When you start going, you know, if your body is telling you, this is not a good day or, Oh, hold on, this is opening up. I'm warming up to it. And so when I was doing tendon stretch on the Reformer, normally, I do a single leg tendon stretch. And I did tendon stretch. I did three, and I was like, I in no way feel safe, to lift a leg off. I'm gonna do four more and get off. I got to headstand. I did all the things but the actual headstand, because I have a consistent enough practice in my body, I could tell that I'm going to feel better when it's over, but I'm not pushing myself to do something it shouldn't do. And that just comes with time. It just comes with listening to your body. So, you gotta do that.Brad Crowell 32:20  Yeah, I mean, you know, she said something that I also thought was interesting, that we never, that I never thought about before. She said, clearly, the outside of our bodies change, our faces sag, or we get wrinkles, things, lalala, why would we never, why would we expect that there are no internal changes as well, right? And she was talking about, you know, joint degeneration, and, you know, all those kinds of things which are natural and they happen, you know, discs in your back, compression, all that kind of stuff. But the only way to age gracefully, despite your body deteriorating is strength. Is strong muscles, right? And so we still should be we need to be prioritizing that in our lives now so that we can be moving with ease as we age.Lesley Logan 33:11  Yeah, no, it's so and that's just it, you guys, you will never stop having to sleep enough drink, enough water and strengthen your muscles like that you're, so sorry, guaranteed in life until we no longer get to live on this beautiful planet. So, there you go.Brad Crowell 33:28  Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into those Be It Action Items that we got from Dr. Jen Fit. Brad Crowell 33:35  All right, welcome back. Let's dig into these Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items. Can we take away from your conversation with Dr. Jen Fraboni? She explicitly advised against relying on passive stretching as a primary solution for pain, even though it can feel good and relaxing, she said it's better to create stability, that is the fundamental requirement for the body to feel safe. So you were talking about the off balance muscles that you had, which is why your lifting was feeling pain, because you were unstable. Your one muscles, your one set of muscles, were stronger than the other set of muscles. She said, when you create stability, it creates a sense of safety. And she recommends focusing on active stretching, isometric holds and strengthening exercises. She highlighted Pilates as a modality that is great at creating stability and teaching the body safety, especially in the initial phases of pain recovery. So yay for Pilates. That's fantastic. What about you? Go ahead, go ahead.Lesley Logan 34:37  I was gonna say, like today, we were in yoga, and my left hamstring just would not open up. And the reality is my left hip just feeling unstable. That's why we're headed to the chiropractor after this. And it's like, I cannot open up this hamstring when my pelvis is out. And so I just really like, that was such a that's such a takeaway for me. I love that Be It Action Item. So be mindful of the passive stretching, my loves. Just be mindful. I love, this is great, t only way that we start to know how to move forward is if we tune in first. So it's really, this is this kind of goes back to, like a Brad BizJack's episode, actually, and that and that, maybe he didn't say it in this episode, but he has said it in something that I've heard of him before, which is, but go listen to that episode anyways, he's like, you would never, you would never just like, go get in the car and drive somewhere without having, like, a destination in mind. Unlike most people, don't check in with how they feel before they like move their body. They just start moving their body like they're not tuning in. So before you set a goal, before you do things, you have to kind of go inward first, so that you know where you're putting your compass, where you're putting your directions, where you're moving forward to. So otherwise you're like, oh, maybe I should do if you don't tune in first, you're gonna be the person who's like, oh, the hot new thing is Jiu Jitsu, and I'm doing Jiu Jitsu, and then that new hot thing is this box thing on a trampoline, like you're not going to actually be able to look at a movement modality and go, oh, that's what my body needs. You'll just be like, going hopping from one thing to the next expecting a quick fix. So I did love that one. And then she really, she advised onto every day to take five deep, long, slow breaths, mouth closed, and focus on taking breath into the sides of your rib cage. OPC members know this. Brad Crowell 36:24  Diaphragmatic breathing. Lesley Logan 36:26  And avoid breathing into your shoulders, neck or chest. Otherwise you're gonna feel stressed. But if you take these deep breaths, you often will see that the pain starts to diminish. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 36:35  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 36:36  I really hope this was helpful, especially if pain is part of your daily life, it is really hard to be it till you see it in that kind of state. And so hopefully this gave you some tips, gave you some ideas, gave you some permission and share it with a friend who needs to hear it, especially one who's like this topic is like, what they're needing right now. It's, I don't know, there's just so much permission in this episode. Until next time, Be It Till You see it. Brad Crowell 36:55  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 36:57  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 37:39  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 37:44  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 37:49  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 37:56  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 37:59  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Lesley Logan 38:11  I don't know if we're doing a second one next year. We're gonna try, but you know, we'll see. Brad Crowell 38:16  You are just making up the URLs here. Lesley Logan 38:19  I'm not. Lesley Logan 38:19  Yeah, crowsnestretreats.com. Just go to crowsnestretreats.com. Lesley Logan 38:23  You gave me the waitlist one. Brad Crowell 38:25  No. Lesley Logan 38:25  Yeah, not on this sheet, but in life.Brad Crowell 38:28  Okay, because of 404. So I'll have the team fix that right now. Lesley Logan 38:31  Fix that, please, because I gave it to somebody else last week on Instagram, because you gave that to me. Okay.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode Patricia Robinson from Pilates Vita, London, breaks down how she built a boutique, premium-priced Pilates studio serving VIP clients in Kensington.Find Patricia here:https://www.pilatesvita.com/Mentioned in this episode:Get our help to grow your teamThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: AdBarker - https://adbarker.com/privacy

On this week's episode, I'm catching up on all your favourite topics from fitness and Pilates advice to supplements, productivity and mindset. I share my go-to skincare products, one of the most underrated wellness tools I swear by, how I create my content, and my favourite glow-up tips. Plus, I give more information about our Black Friday deal. Thank you for being the most amazing community and I hope you love this episode!// MORE FROM BRYONY // Use BEYOND30 to get a free 30-days on the Pilates By Bryony app here.Visit pilatesbybryony.com and shop our products here. Follow me on Instagram @bryonydeery @pilatesbybryony. Watch Beyond the Mat on YouTube. Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

John's girlfriend started having him go to pilates a couple of weeks ago to try it out. So far, he's keeping with it and going a couple times a week. How's he doing? Will he continue? We got a check-in this morning.

Friday Headlines: Third Coalition leader ousted from top job this week, neo-Nazi leader reportedly charged over alleged harassment of federal MP, coroner to hand down findings into Australia’s first Christian terror attack today, Anthony Albanese touches down in South Africa for G20 summit, and an Aussie surprise as the world’s coolest streets are named. Deep Dive: After 13 long years of schooling, thousands of kids across the country are packing their bags for destinations across Australia – and now the world – to celebrate Schoolies. While many will likely party too hard and head home with some regrets, or worse, there’s a growing trend among teenagers to swap getting wasted for wellness. In this episode of The Briefing, Sacha Barbour Gatt speaks to the founder of Red Frogs, Andy Gourley, about how kids are celebrating in 2025 and how much that’s changed since he started his work at leavers events more than 25 years ago. Further listening from headlines:The Coalition killing season has arrivedVote #1 neo-Nazis Follow The Briefing: TikTok: @thebriefingpodInstagram: @thebriefingpodcast YouTube: @TheBriefingPodcastFacebook: @LiSTNR Newsroom See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Pilate wrote on the cross, “Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews.” Did Jesus ever claim to be king of the Jews? Let's find out together as we read John 18:29-38 and Psalm 103.

Welcome to episode 77 of Rapaport's Reality! Starring Kebe & Michael Rapaport. This is the reality television podcast that the whole reality world has been waiting for. The Rapaport's are here to discuss: Kebe's shoulder Real Housewives Pilates Bodies Gia Giudice is Special on Special Forces Traitors Off Camera Not Going To BravoCon2025 Real Housewives of New Jersey makeup Wife Swap Traitors Trailer Reveal This episode is not to be missed! An iHeartPodcasts Show Stand Up Comedy Tickets on sale at: MichaelRapaportComedy.com Produced by DBPodcasts.comFollow @dbpodcasts, @rapaportsreality, @michaelrapaport on Instagram & X Subscribe to Rapaport's Reality Feeds: iHeartRadio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/867-rapaports-reality-with-keb-171162927/ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rapaports-reality-with-kebe-michael-rapaport/id1744160673 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3a9ArixCtWRhfpfo1Tz7MR Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/rapaports-reality-with-kebe-michael-rapaport/PC:1001087456 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/a776919e-ad8c-4b4b-90c6-f28e41fe1d40/rapaports-reality-with-kebe-michael-rapaportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, I sit down with Emma Stallworthy, the inspiring founder behind Your Reformer.  Her story begins with a deeply personal fertility journey that led her to reevaluate how she moved, how she managed stress, and ultimately how she cared for her body. Through Pilates—specifically reformer Pilates—she found physical healing, nervous system balance, and a sense of calm that became life-changing. That experience not only transformed her health, but also sparked the idea for a more accessible, at-home Pilates solution grounded in real emotional connection and everyday life needs.  As we talk, Emma shares how the practice supported her through pregnancy, postpartum recovery, anxiety, back pain, major life transitions, and the hectic realities of parenting and entrepreneurship.   She also reveals how she and her husband grew the business from an idea into a global brand—tackling logistics, e-commerce, manufacturing, B2B expansion, and launching in the U.S. market. What comes through most is her passion for movement, her belief in carving out time for self-care, and her commitment to helping people live healthier, more balanced lives—no matter their season of life.  Key Highlights * How infertility, IVF, anxiety, and burnout led Emma to reformer Pilates—and how the practice helped her regulate her nervous system and finally conceive.  * Why reformer Pilates supports a wide range of people—from beginners to athletes, from those with injuries to those navigating postpartum recovery, back pain, mobility challenges, or stressful careers.  * The moment Emma realized there was a massive demand for at-home Pilates during lockdown, and how that insight shaped the Your Reformer concept.  * The evolution of the business: logistics, e-commerce learning curves, expansion into B2B, launching internationally, and their "Kaizen" philosophy of continuous 1% improvements.  * How Your Reformer supports beginners with orientation classes, health-professional-led programs, and a robust on-demand library that meets people in every stage of life.  If you've ever struggled to find balance, movement, or a moment of calm in your day, this conversation will resonate deeply. Emma's story is powerful, relatable, and full of insight—whether you're navigating fertility challenges, juggling parenting, looking to stay active as you age, or simply wanting to improve your mental and physical well-being. Join me, Ramon Vela, as we explore how Your Reformer is helping people reclaim their health, their calm, and their confidence—one deliberate, mindful movement at a time. Tune in on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen. For more on Your Reformer, visit: https://yourreformer.com/ If you enjoyed this episode, please leave The Story of a Brand Show a rating and review.  Plus, don't forget to follow us on Apple and Spotify.  Your support helps us bring you more content like this! * Today's Sponsors:   Color More Lines: https://www.colormorelines.com/get-started Color More Lines is a team of ex-Amazonians and e-commerce operators who help brands grow faster on Amazon and Walmart. With a performance-based pricing model and flexible contracts, they've generated triple-digit year-over-year growth for established sellers with annual revenue over $5 million.   Use code "STORY OF A BRAND" and receive a complimentary market opportunity assessment of your e-commerce brand and marketplace positioning.

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We delve into the trial of Jesus Christ before Pontius Pilate and Herod. We explore the parallels between Jesus and the Passover lamb, examining how He fulfills the role of the perfect sacrifice. The episode covers key events such as Jesus' silence before His accusers, the crowd's choice of Barabbas over Jesus, and Pilate's attempts to release Jesus. The narrative includes the brutal scourging of Jesus, His mocking by soldiers, and the crowd's demand for His crucifixion. Support the showRead along with us in the Bible Brief App! Try the Bible Brief book for an offline experience!Get your free Bible Timeline with the 10 Steps: Timeline LinkSupport the show: Tap here to become a monthly supporter!Review the show: Tap here!Want to go deeper?...Download the Bible Brief App!iPhone: App Store LinkAndroid: Play Store LinkWant a physical book? Check out "Bible Brief" by our founder!Amazon: Amazon LinkWebsite: biblebrief.orgInstagram: @biblelitTwitter: @bible_litFacebook: @biblelitEmail the Show: biblebrief@biblelit.org Want to learn the Bible languages (Greek & Hebrew)? Check out ou...

Welcome to Perimenopause WTF!, brought to you by ⁠Perry⁠—the #1 perimenopause app and safe space for connection, support, and new friendships during the menopause transition. You're not crazy, and you're not alone!  Download the free Perry App on ⁠Apple⁠ or ⁠Android⁠ and join our live expert talks, receive evidence-based education, connect with other women, and simplify your perimenopause journey.Today's episode is titled “Prevention is Power: Protecting Bone Health in Perimenopause”. Rebekah Rotstein & Dr. Jennifer Han focus on the holistic and practical strategies for bone health during perimenopause, shifting the conversation from doom-and-gloom to actionable steps. The discussion highlights the critical role of community and support in managing an osteopenia or osteoporosis diagnosis, the importance of movement, resistance training, and essential nutrients like calcium and Vitamin D (stressing the difficulty of getting enough from diet alone), and the benefit of complementary therapies (like acupuncture and yoga) alongside traditional medical treatments.

If you want consistent sales in your wellness business in January–March, now is the time to lay the foundation.In this episode, I'm sharing the exact mistake I made as a Pilates and nutrition coach that cost me high-ticket clients  and what I'd do differently to avoid the typical new year income dip.Whether you offer 1:1 sessions, group programmes, or digital products, this will help you build a sales strategy rooted in connection, clarity, and ease Here's what we cover:Why “wait and see” doesn't work for high-ticket wellness offersThe key difference between low-cost vs premium visibilityWhat to focus on now: opt-ins, nurture rhythm, and aligned offersWhy quick cash offers won't create long-term stabilityFree resources for you Learn the 3 Shifts that Make (or break) your digital business and sales - here 3 quiet reasons why your offer is not selling (and it's not the algorithm) here Join the ALIGNED & IN DEMAND community and receive weekly insights for soul-led wellbeing practitioners growing income, impact, and freedom without burnout Stay Connected with Me: Website: www.isawelly.com Instagram: @isawelly Email: admin@isawelly.com Join the Community: Subscribe: Don't miss an episode—subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Share the Love: If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a five-star review and share it with friends and family.

This is the part where Jesus gets interrogated by Pilate. It's this weird little story that hinges on questions. Are you the king of the Jews? What is truth? Are you the king of the Jews? Pilate wants to know if Jesus is going to lead a violent overthrow of the government. He wants to know if Jesus is a threat and eventually doesn't see him as a threat. But in reality, Jesus is a threat. Not to overthrow the government by violence - but he's a threat to violence itself. He doesn't play by those rules - he says his kingdom is from someplace else. What is truth? Jesus' answer? Silence. He seems to be saying, I am the truth. You're looking at it. Truth is Jesus. It isn't a weapon to be used. It isn't something we possess - it's something we belong to. Jesus is the truth and everything he embodied. His way, his love, his grace, his mercy, his forgiveness. Jesus offers a whole different way of life for anyone who will listen. This is something I think the world is ready for and in desperate need of. A new way of living - the question is, are we willing to live into it? Speaker: Aaron Vis Scripture: John 18:28-38 http://bible.com/events/49523153

In this episode, Sarah talks with Chelsea Stewart, owner and founder of HAVN Hot Pilates, a boutique studio based in the Denver area. Chelsea has spent over 15 years cultivating her expertise in Pilates, strength training, and body mechanics and she brings that depth to every aspect of her studio.Chelsea shares her wellness journey: how she discovered her passion for movement, what led her to build a Pilates and strength studio, and why she chose to make it a hot experience. She breaks down the HAVN method, which fuses contemporary mat Pilates with weight-based strength work, all practiced in a heated room to maximize both cardiovascular and muscular engagement. Listeners hear Chelsea's philosophy around her “Core Four” values: Excellence, Expertise, Embodiment, and Engagement. Through those pillars, HAVN is more than a workout it's a space where people can push physical boundaries while also cultivating mental and emotional growth.Chelsea also reflects on building her coaching team, her role as both an instructor and business owner, and how she designs classes that feel both efficient and deeply intentional. The conversation also touches on how heated Pilates amplifies the mind-body connection. Chelsea explains that the heat isn't just for sweat: it intensifies awareness and encourages a deeper focus on breath, alignment, and strength. More than anything, Chelsea's story is about creating a community. HAVN is a place for people to feel strong, challenged, and supported a sanctuary where physical and mental resilience are built in tandem.

Lesley sits down with Dr. Jen Fraboni, PT, DPT—better known as DocJenFit—to change how you think about pain. Instead of seeing it as a problem, Jen reveals how pain is your body's protective alarm asking for attention, not avoidance. Together, they unpack how stress, sleep, movement, and breath all shape what you feel day to day—and how small shifts can help you feel safer and stronger. Whether you're postpartum, navigating chronic aches, or simply tired of “powering through,” this episode will help you move with confidence and compassion for your body.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How to recognize pain as a helpful body signal, not a threat.How stress, sleep, and nutrition influence your daily pain levels.Why MRI or scan results don't always predict how you feel.How postpartum movement and breath restore stability and confidence.Why building strength creates long-term safety better than stretching alone.Episode References/Links:Dr. Jen Fraboni's Website - https://jen.healthDr. Jen Fraboni's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/docjenfitDr. Jen Fraboni's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCknKMzugCaPXD4AI6rq3wiQDr. Jen Fraboni's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@docjenfitTiny Habits by BJ Fogg - https://a.co/d/56xwXLNGuest Bio:Dr. Jen Fraboni, PT, DPT, is an internationally-renown physical therapist who specializes in helping people overcome chronic pain and maximize physical performance. As the founder of the new platform and app, “Jen.Health,” she brings a unique, whole body approach to strength, mobility and pain-free living. In 2019, Jen was named one of the top 50 most influential healthcare professionals. Jen's easily accessible approach has garnered her more than half a million followers on social media and millions of views of her health and fitness videos. Jen has been featured in Shape Magazine, Self Magazine, Men's Fitness and Muscle and Fitness and in 2020, graced the cover of Oxygen Magazine. During the pandemic, she helped ease back pain with her feature on Good Morning America and NBC. 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We're neglecting something. We need to add something in. And yet, when we have pain, we automatically think something is wrong, something is bad, which, sometimes, sure, but most of the time it's just an alarm, especially you didn't get an accident, nothing happened immediately. This is just another signal to the brain that, hey, we're neglecting something in the body.Lesley Logan 0:29  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:12  All right, Be It babe. This is gonna be an epic episode. Really, truly, so excited to have this amazing woman on. I got so excited about all the education information she was giving us. I didn't give her a proper bio, and you'll get one on Thursday, for sure. But just know that Docjenfit is our guest today, and she has been named one of the top 50 healthcare professionals in the US. Like she's amazing, she's wonderful, and she has a really great, amazing outlook on how we can look at pain in our bodies. And when it comes to being it till you see it, there's just so many factors, right? We can give you all the strategies and all the meditations and all the journals in the world, but like, if you feel pain in your body, it could literally be the thing that holds you back. And I can't have that. We can't have that around here. So Docjenfit is going to educate us and give us some inspiration and some options in our life and ways to think about pain that I think you're going to change your life and help you be it till you see it. So here she is. Lesley Logan 1:59  Be It babe. This is this is going to be fun. This is a more like a dream come true. This is a little bit of fan girling, because in the world that I lived in in Los Angeles, I got to see this woman, kind of from afar, sometimes right next to me in work at the same places, and she is just like, just the person who's been so authentically themselves, helping people in the best way, in a different avenue than I do in the fitness world, but just in a way that I so respect and so admire, and watching her grow year after year has been absolutely wonderful and awe inspiring. Jen Fraboni, Docjenfit, holy fucking molly. Thanks for being here. Dr. Jen Fraboni 2:33  Thank you so much for having me.Lesley Logan 2:36  Okay, in case people have no idea who you are. Can't can't believe it, but it could be true. Can you tell everyone what you rock at? Dr. Jen Fraboni 2:42  Yeah, I am a physical therapist. My handle is Docjenfit across the board. So Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, all the places. And I help empower people to move in a different way in their bodies than they might not have known, to hopefully find ways that they could relieve pain and move better, move more efficiently.Lesley Logan 3:05  Yeah, because I think, like, similarly, I'll meet a lot of people, they'll come in and they'll have pain, and there's certain things that they want to do. And as a Pilates instructor, as much as knowledge as I have, there's some things like way outside my scope. But also I think sometimes pain becomes something that really holds us back. And I watch people sometimes, like, hold on to the pain or have a story around it. And it can be hard to watch that, because you're like, you have so much potential, you have so much stuff you could do in this world, but the pain is holding you back. Can you chat about, like, what when people have pain in their body? Like, what have you seen it negatively do and affecting their lives and like what they're capable of?Dr. Jen Fraboni 3:44  Pain is hard, because what should be thought as a good alert system within our body, just like anything else, our stomach grumbles when we're hungry. We yawn when we're tired. You know, our body is constantly giving us signals that something needs to change. We're neglecting something. We need to add something in. And yet, when we have pain, we automatically think something is wrong, something is bad, which sometimes, sure, but most of the time it's just an alarm, especially you didn't get an accident, nothing happened immediately. This is just another signal to the brain that, hey, we're neglecting something in the body, and it's not necessarily bad, but I'm protecting you in case it turns into bad. So if we can start to see it more as that protective mechanism, rather than, oh my gosh, something is damaged. Something is horrible. I have broken like, you know, my spine is popping. Whatever things that we say in our mind about when we feel it, if we could just say, oh, that is a that's a protective mechanism so that it doesn't become bad, and then we start acting upon it and moving into it. I think the number one thing that pops up for people is is that it is horrible. It's bad. I need to stop moving, I need to stop doing whatever I just did. That's going to damage it. I'm creating more damage if I feel the pain. You know, all these stories that we continue to tell ourselves, and sometimes it has nothing to do with the tissue. Yes, the tissue is involved, but there are neuro tags that our brain creates based on little things that pop up within our body, and when we're stressed, when we don't drink enough water, we're not sleeping enough we're not putting good nutrients within our body. And we're constantly kind of in this cycle of either under eating or under fueling, not getting enough nutrients, not I'm constantly going for takeout or processed food because I just don't have time, you know, all these different things that start to happen, and then our lives can create or increase those symptoms and increase those signals to the brain, and we start living in that pain, and we feel it a little bit more amplified. So it's not even always the tissue. But you know, I think the number one thing that happens is that we we fear that we're creating more damage anytime we move and feel pain.Lesley Logan 6:09  Okay, this is, there's so many different things in there, but like that is really enlightening to me. It makes because, okay, so in 2013, 2013, 2014 that's in 2014, 2014 I fractured my tibial plateau running. Yeah, I just retired from being sponsored. I told my sponsor, like, I'm done. Like I actually, I got slower in there. Somehow I got happy. I can't run that hard anymore. Can't do it. And then, of course, I'm like, didn't understand the depth of a curb thing, and I hyper-extended my knee, awful, terrible. And I'm really lucky it was a non surgical situation. And your whole your my brain went through all the fears, like, am I gonna walk again? Am I gonna run again? Is it gonna affect it? Like you're the whole thing goes crazy. And I was just like, having to go this battle of like, you actually are gonna walk again, like you're, this is so, like, you're just off your leg for eight weeks. Like, out of everything that's going on, like this battle with my brain, and I was working with a really amazing trainer, and, you know, I was able to put body weight back in that leg. He was giving me some squats and some things, all fine, all released from the doctor, all able to do and I would go, anytime it was new, I go, oh, that hurts. Oh, that hurts. And he finally said to me, is it hard or does it hurt? And I think it goes to your point with pain, sometimes we also just confuse, like, is my brain actually saying I'm in pain, or am I coming up against a challenge that I feel uncomfortable with? And it turned out that, like, No, it wasn't actually pain. It was just uncomfortable and it was hard, and I hadn't had to deal with hard workouts in a while like I had. Dr. Jen Fraboni 7:45  And it's scary. It's scary coming back in and you're, you don't want to do something where you're like, Well, I don't want this to be my life. So I'm, I'm afraid.Lesley Logan 7:55  Yeah, yeah. And then like, you know, I think about some of the clients I have where they would come back and they would go, Oh, we did after Pilates, this hurt. And I was like, Okay, I'm looking at the exercise we did, and I have to go, Okay, can you tell me what you did before Pilates, what you did after Pilates? Oh, I was organizing my garage. I'm like, do you think perhaps maybe it might have been the garage, but, you know, I think, so then people go to your point, they're like, I can't do that again, versus, like, what is it telling me? What do I need to do? What imbalances do we might have? Okay, so then I guess my question is, like, how do we how do we do that? How do we explore like, in ourselves or with with those of us who, because some people who are listening, have friends or family who are like, constantly in pain or something constantly hurts. Like, when are we indulging it too much, and when are we like not listening to it? I guess it could be on either (inaudible).Dr. Jen Fraboni 8:45  Yes, that's a really great question, because it's so true. Sometimes we have those pain responses and we're like, kick it down the road. Kick it down the road, whatever, both of them. We got to listen to all of it. That's the whole point, right? It's a signal from our body, so we don't want to ignore it, but we don't want to fear it. So that's where we have to say, okay, my body's trying to tell me something. What is it that I'm neglecting? Let's start at just the base of everything, right? If I am not moving much in general, I have been super stressed. I'm I go to work, I sit in a car for an hour. I sit at my desk, I come home, I have so many a million responsibilities to take care of. I have kids that need me. I'm lifting, I'm grocery shopping, so I'm still lifting and moving and picking up kids or doing whatever, but I'm not actively training my body for any of those things, and now I'm doing it in a state of stress. So all of that combined is just a recipe for your body to be overdone, overdoing it. And once our our brains start like those signals can only take so much, and usually they're filtering it out. There's not enough, you know, just like outside noise, like, there's not enough to take in all of the noises all around. So your brain filters a lot of things out, a lot of unnecessary things. When things become when your brain's like, this is getting to a point where something has to change or else this is going to be bad. That's when it can no longer filter it out. And so all of a sudden we start to get that pain response that's like, normally would be resting right down here. We wouldn't really be paying attention to it. It wouldn't really be a big deal. But all of a sudden you bend down, you pick up that pencil, and your back feels like it just broke. It just went out. It wasn't the bending down and picking up the pencil, it was all these little things along the way that we were not paying attention to until your brain was finally like, Nope, you got to listen. This is this is not okay anymore. And maybe it didn't come with a disc herniation. However, we know that a disc herniation can be there prior as well, and there are studies that show all the way to 20s, all the way into your 20s, you can see disc degeneration on an MRI. You can see disc herniations on MRIs, and it increases as we increase with age. So up to 80s, you're going to see like, I mean, gosh, I wish I had the stats with me right now. But I think in your 60s, you could see up to 80% of people have disc degeneration and no pain. Lesley Logan 11:21  Whoa. Dr. Jen Fraboni 11:23  So it's crazy the numbers, but we have to realize, just like the outside of my body is going to change, my face is going to start to sag my I'm going to start to get wrinkles, changes are going to happen externally. Why would we not expect changes to happen internally? Lesley Logan 11:37  Yeah, yeah. Dr. Jen Fraboni 11:39  Like that that's a part of the process. So we're going to have different changes on an MRI. That's fine, and maybe it's part of your story. Maybe it's part of your pain journey, but it might be have been there prior to pain. So we can't just blame an MRI. We can't just blame an image when we don't know if that's new. We don't know if that's always been there, but what we can now start to do is say, Okay, what have I been neglecting? Am I super stressed? Am I not sleeping? Have I not been moving? Am I not am I maybe going to the gym, going hard, but I'm taking zero time for recovery? Am I always pushing to failure? Because that's what I hear I need to do now that I'm getting older, and I need a strength train, and I need to push my body to failure. But am I doing that every single time I go to the gym? Am I hearing, oh, I'm supposed to be doing these HIIT workouts in high intensity, because that's good for my bone health. But have I not progressed and eased my body into it? So all of these things, we have to start to take into account. Where have I what have I been neglecting? What am I not doing enough of that I can just at least start with the baseline level and say, Okay, thank you brain for alerting me that something needs to change. Thank you brain for telling me that enough is enough, and this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but what can I be doing that I'm neglecting and I can put myself on plenty examples as well. So, for example, my my second pregnancy, I felt all the things in my pelvis, lots of different changes with the hormones and different sensations that would pop up. I don't necessarily like to call it pain, but different sensations that my body was telling me about. And each of those experiences, I could then say, oh, I should not work out today. I should not lift that would be bad. And I did the opposite. And every time I moved in, not into the pain, but into opening up my hips more or loading in a different way. I still lifted weight, but I lifted differently. Maybe I'm not doing a barbell deadlift and going as heavy as I can, but I'm doing a controlled, a controlled deadlift with both legs and a wider stance so that I can open up through my hips and my pelvis a little bit more, and really use my breath to drive up and create that stability in my pelvis that I feel like I'm missing and I'm really needing. Maybe I can add some targeted lunges or step downs that really help to build support in my pelvis and my glutes so that I'm really supporting my body. Maybe I could do some different core things to really add in that stability that I know my body is going into more laxity, because I have a lot more relaxing within my body as I'm as I'm pregnant, and every single time I did movement instead of stopping, I felt better afterwards. Lesley Logan 14:35  Yeah, yeah. I mean, I believe I've never had children, but like, I have also, like, been so tight in my upper back because we do tours, and we're driving the van for the last tour was 36 days. And, you know, yes, I have a (inaudible), yes, we do all the things. Yes, I move my body, but you just, there's only so much you can do after 36 days of you know that? And I absolutely was, like, I should not have signed up for that workout. I probably shouldn't have done my Pilates, and I found myself every with every rolling like a ball, and every seal my thoracic spine just opening up, and it's like, oh, now I'm feel so much better. But it's true. It's like you might have to take a different approach, or you might have to and and we should and this is where that all or nothing mindset, I think, is affecting everybody. Like, it affects not just the way we deal with pain, but like, the way we get into workouts, the way we see if a workout is good or not. Like, it's not about doing what you did yesterday when you're pain free, but maybe going in slow or having a longer warm up, or being more intentional with your breath and then seeing how it's going. But I think it's, I mean, this is your life's mission. How do you get people to listen to their body?Dr. Jen Fraboni 15:44  I know it's hard. The first key is, let's not, let's not be afraid of pain. I mean, I think that that goes for everyone. Let's not be afraid of the MRI either, because we're going to have internal changes on on the body, and that's okay. My husband and I even just did a podcast yesterday on the straightening of the cervical spine, because everyone is afraid. Sometimes you'll go into an office and they'll do an x ray, they'll say, Oh, your your neck is straight. That's why you're getting neck pain. But we have so many studies that show people who have straight spines have no pain. So again, could it be a part of your story? Sure, is it the whole thing? No, because if there's someone out there who has a straight neck and no pain, that doesn't mean that you have a straight neck and pain, right, like that we have to be looking at things can be correlated. It doesn't mean it's the cause. Lesley Logan 16:34  Yeah, yeah. Dr. Jen Fraboni 16:36  And that's what I really want people to hear people who have disc herniations will show up on an MRI and not have pain. People who have osteoarthritis, 43% of people can have osteoarthritis on an MRI and have no pain. So again, not saying, not not discounting that that's a part of your body journey, but it's possible to be in that percentage of people who don't have pain. How do you get there? That's what we want to be focusing on. How do I get there? Right?Lesley Logan 17:03  Yeah. Oh, I love this. It's like, it's like, okay, so you, you, you might be someone with osteoporosis and pain, but the two of them might not actually be connected. It could be. But also, what if we take a moment to think about like, I have osteoporosis, but I also can explore other avenues that could reduce the pain? Dr. Jen Fraboni 17:20  Yes, yes, and it takes a mindset, a mind a mind shift. Lesley Logan 17:30  Yeah, mindset shift got it. Yes, no, it's okay. We'll do this together.Dr. Jen Fraboni 17:35  It takes shifting that mindset of what you're telling yourself and what is wrong and what is bad into saying, okay, what can I explore because of this? What can I do because of this? And that's where, okay, we have to say, if I'm rounding down to the floor and getting pain, what can I be doing that's different? Can, am I sitting a lot? Again, I can do myself as another example. Right now, actually, I am experiencing radiating symptoms into my right glute. So that means I'm I am feeling like a line of pain down into my glutes, sometimes a little further. So I know that's likely coming from my back. A nerve is sending some lightning signals into my glute. Now, I am fully exclusively breastfeeding right now, which means that I am sitting in positions a lot throughout the day where I'm rounded and on, like cuddling into my little babe as I'm breastfeeding, not always in the most ideal position, but kind of sitting like a little shrimp. And so majority of the day, I'm like that. And a lot of times for work, I am sitting at the computer and working. I try to get up, I try to take breaks, I do all the things, but I know that I'm neglecting some things. And so even the other the two days ago, when it really started, I would get out of bed and almost like it felt like my leg didn't want to hold me up. So it felt like it wasn't just nerve related, but it was now starting to affect how my muscles were responding as well. And so it can feel really scary, like, oh my gosh, just stepping out of bed, I'm going to collapse onto the floor, or I'm feeling as I'm rounding and picking up my son, I'm getting a lot of pain. That's bad. I should not deadlift, I should not bend my spine. I should not, you know, we could start telling ourselves, because this pattern equals pain, I shouldn't do this. Instead, I'm saying, Okay, what have I been neglecting? Now I'm spending a lot more time in extension. So if I'm on my phone, I'm going to lay on my couch and it prop my elbows and look at my phone that way. So I'm putting my spine in the opposite position that it's typically in throughout the day, and I'm spending time relaxing there and breathing there. I'm spending time opening up my hip flexors, opening up my rib cage, opening up tension relaxing through my front of my body, since I know that I'm spending a lot of time in that shrimp position. But on top of that, I have to create stability in a new way so my body feels safe. So I'm also adding in a lot of core stabilization. I'm adding in a lot of hip stability through my warm ups, and then I'm lifting, and I'm not shying away, because I'm listening and I'm modifying if I need to, but I'm lifting, and, and I still feel it a little bit today, but not as bad. And we also have to know that some things take time. There's no one magic fix. There's no one give me the one exercise for my for my disc herniation. I can't tell you that. It depends on what your body needs. What have you been neglecting? Are you neglecting your hip mobility? Are you neglecting your upper back mobility? Are you breathing from your rib cage? Are you stabilizing through your core? Are you, you know, can we move a little bit different in an exercise so that you can feel a little bit different? Can we change the range of motion? Can we change the load? There's so many aspects that we could be changing for you, it's hard to say what each individual needs. And at the same time, I just don't stop moving. The more that we stop moving, the more that your body's going to feel, because the one thing that helps us to feel better is getting fluids to move. Is getting our lymphatic system moving, is getting, you know, our even our blood going up to our brain, things. We want oxygen. We want things moving in our body so that we start to feel something different. Another thing I'm super neglecting is sleep. I know that's a huge, big thing for me. I'm staying up late so I could pump before I go to bed. Sometimes my son still wakes up. I wake up early. I'm burning at both ends from not sleeping enough. That's a huge contributor to pain. So we have to take into account other stressors in our life, and some things we can change. Some things are harder, but we have to get really honest with ourselves and say, what is it that I'm not doing that I could be doing for my body in general?Lesley Logan 22:13  Yeah, so Jen, I love this because, like, first of all, I appreciate you sharing your stories, because I always what I get a lot, especially since and I think it's because people can say it and I don't. I can't really argue. I don't have children. You have two kids, one of them whom you're nursing. And like, the thing that I always say is, like, if you like, have a newborn, like, you obviously have to take care of the newborn. But also, like, none of us are good to anyone sick or in pain like zero. I truly believe that self-care is an act of self-love. I will die on this hill. And I really don't think you can love others as as generously as you want if you don't love yourself that way. And so, but also, you're in a very different season in your motherhood journey, where you are breastfeeding, and so I guess, like for the moms listening, or the people who are like really trying, who put so many other people's lives before themselves, like, how do you do that? Because I know you have the mom guilt. They gave it to you when you had the kids. So like, how do you how? Like, yes, it's your job, but also, like, you're a human being. How do you keep that all going?Dr. Jen Fraboni 23:17  So I'm very fortunate to have support. We have support. I could be on this podcast, because we have support, right? So my husband and I can work during the day, and we have people watching our children, and so we're very grateful for that. I have to acknowledge that, right? And within that time period, I take 30 minutes out of where I would be working to work out. 30 minutes. It doesn't have to be a lot of time when we do it efficiently and we learn what we need for our individual body. I also, because I talked about the sleep thing, and that's lacking for me, my accountability and motivation not very high right now, to show up for myself, and I know that for myself right now. So the number one thing I I'm doing right now is I met someone actually on a mom app called Peanut and she comes and works out with me before she goes and picks up her after her work day, and before she picks up her son from daycare, and we work out together. And I know she's coming at the same time almost every day, and she is like, if she's showing up, I'm obviously showing up, and we're doing that 30 minute workout together, and I have that accountability to get off my butt and do it, because I can just, Oh, I'll eat a little bit more, I'll work a little bit more, I'll do a little you know, I can make up all the excuses because I'm tired and I get it, I'm in it, like, I don't want to do it either, but I do want to do it because it's going to make me feel so much better after. So I think understanding what is it that you need. We know, I think we know by now that motivation isn't the thing that's going to get us to move, right? We know this, but what is the thing that's going to get you to move? Is that the accountability? I've also told myself I need to be moving a little bit more. So my accountability also is, I am posting every morning that I'm taking a walk. And I asked other people who wants to join me take a walk, I'm going to post every morning that I'm taking a walk. That's my accountability. If I don't post. You know, I didn't walk, and so I'm I'm showing up on stories and just saying, got my morning walk in 10 to 15 minutes. It doesn't have to be long, right? I throw my kids in a stroller and I go for a walk. So what is it that we can be doing that creates that, that deeper accountability? Again, it doesn't have to be a long time, even if you're like, I don't have 30 minutes. Okay, do you have five to 10 minutes. Can you use your your kid and do a couple lunges and squats with them? Trust me, kids love to be used as weights. It's super fun for them. What is the thing that we could be doing? I do my mobility on the floor in the playroom when they're moving around. So there's always a time. Yeah, it's just, how are we creating that space within our life to to commit? Lesley Logan 26:05  Yeah, I You're so right during the pandemic. I studied with BJ Fogg and his team, his the author of Tiny Habits and Stanford science, like behavioral sciences on habits like be the person, right? And he literally said, motivation is the friend you want to go to a party, but you never have them pick you up at the airport. It's unreliable, and then and it's like, just when you think about that, whenever I hear people I don't have enough motivation. I'm like, like, motivation is what you need to, like, push them up a hill real quick, but like, you can't. It's not the thing. And so the other thing that I know from Habits is how we talk to ourselves about something actually, is why where the brain starts to look for opportunities. So I, because I because I know how good I'll feel right and I know what that's gonna do. My brain is like, oh, oh, I could go. I could do this movement here. I have 30 extra minutes I could do. I'm like, seeking out little increments in a busy season, because my brain knows you're gonna get a dopamine hit if you do this here. But if, whenever you think about the things you should be doing in a negative way, oh, I should be moving more. I should be exercising more, and you put all this shit on yourself and this pressure, it stresses your brain. Your brain goes, oh, working out, moving my body, that causes stress, shame, guilt. I don't like to feel that. So you actually don't look for those things. We have to actually trick our brain into seeing opportunities for movement. And so I love that you shared all these different ways, and also what you're using right now, because it's going to be different from for all of us, depending on where our seasons are, depending if you're traveling or not, but it doesn't I am so with you. It does not have to be an hour chunk at one time, like that is a luxury a lot of people don't have, and you might have it one day a week, but not other days a week. And I'm just a big fan of, like, someone always asked me, like, how often should I do Pilates? And I'm like, I'd rather do four 15-minute sessions in a week than one one-hour like, I just would. It's just going to have way more benefits. So I appreciate you talking about the different minutes, and also, like what you're doing right now in your seasons, because it, it does help people start to think, Oh, I could do that, oh I could do 15 minutes. Oh I could pick my kid up, or I could go for a walk with a friend. I have a neighbor who would walk with me every morning, if I would, if I would get up a little later, and I'm like, this is too hot for me right now. So, so. But you know what? If that's if you are someone who needs someone, you're not sure so you can rely on someone, I promise you, get a dog teach him for two weeks to go for a walk in the morning, they will wake you up. They're, my dog knows what time it is. He knows it's time for a walk. So. Dr. Jen Fraboni 26:06  I love that. Lesley Logan 26:41  Okay, so you know this is an incredible journey that you are going on, and what you've been and the gifts that you've been giving people like you've been doing this a really long time. What are you excited about right now? Like, where are you taking this? Where are you taking, like, your education, helping people with their pain?Dr. Jen Fraboni 28:50  You know, my number one thing is to provide ways right now as to okay, if this hurts, how can we do it different? So the number one thing people always tell me when they go through my courses and my plans and everything is that the way UQ lit up, something in my brain that told me I can do it, something different, and I felt completely different, no knee pain, no back pain, because I did, you know, and so doing some of these common things a little bit more uncommon, A little bit different than maybe what you've been told or what you've seen or what you've done in the past can make a huge impact, so that you continue to move forward and you feel better within your body. I think I've grown because people know me as mobility. People know me as but the problem with that is that people believe that stretching and just passive stretching, and it's so not and so sometimes, you know, I even have family members here. Like the other day, my niece is like, going for cheer right now, and she said, Oh, this area within my inner thigh, so, like her groin area was hurting and I was doing a lot of stretching, and I'm like, why are you stretching it? Don't stretch it. Not bad. I don't wanna say it's bad, but it's not gonna be helpful when she needs to be active in her sport in order to get back to what she wants to do. And so a lot of times, we need either active stretching or we need isometric hold. We need strengthening. We need stability within the body. Again, remember that when we have pain, our body wants to feel safe. So a lot of times, stretching though it can feel good, it can feel relaxing, it can help to temporarily reduce pain symptoms. A lot of times, it's not the thing that's going to help the body to feel secure and safe moving forward. And so what we need is great stability. Pilates is great at creating stability. Pilates is great at teaching the body some safety. So a lot of times in those initial phases, especially getting more stability, more isometric holds, more higher reps, lower weight, that kind of thing is going to be better in in the very beginning stages, when we're feeling that pain and creating that safety for the body, before we start loading more, or before we start doing it, or before we start doing really aggressive stretches. I don't even know. I think I went off on a tangent.Lesley Logan 31:15  It's okay, you're clear. I asked what you're excited about right now, and that's it.Dr. Jen Fraboni 31:20  Yes, yes. Continuing to educate people on on a different way to move their body and hopefully get out of pain. I just, I want to stick with pain, and some people tell me that's limiting and and I, I know, but so many people experience pain, and if I could just teach people how to listen to their body a little differently and not fear pain, I that that would be such a gift.Lesley Logan 31:40  I mean, it's really funny what people like to say, like, they like to say, oh, you can't, can't just do that, or that's really limiting, or whatever it is. Like, you know, this particular week that we're recording this, like, I gotta be in my bonnet because somebody, like, said, like, oh, like, someone just commented negatively on one of my Pilates instructors who works for me, and about their their body. Well, I can see that Pilates is really working. Pilate is really working for your for your body, and to something nasty, right? And I got so pissed about it. And then, like, and then I was like, while we're on the topic, there's also no such thing as Pilates arms, right? Like, there's just that's like, if you, like, I don't even want to say, have arms and do Pilates, because there you could do Pilates without arms. Like, you don't even have to have arms. So it's like, not a thing, right? Like, and so and so, it's like, it goes to where this tangent is going from my brain. It's like, people like to put things in boxes and then, and then, that's what it is for. That's what it does. And like, as, if you focusing on pain is so limiting. When pain is like, it is such a, like, I'm like, we could go to so many places, because there's people who like, literally, like, I have a family member in my life every day, something is in pain. I'm like, you are using pain to keep yourself from experiencing life, you know? And then there's also the other spectrum, where it's like, people who won't listen to it at all. You're like, I just want you to like, we don't do, yeah, I can see, like, you shouldn't do that anymore, so, but I so, I think it's really interesting how we people want to put boxes around things. And there, I don't say they're being a boxer, and I do think that, like, we know a lot more about stuff. Like, it used to be like, Oh, if that hurts, don't do anything, as if that's, you know, and I would watch clients whose doctors, like, you can't do anything with that. And I'm like, Okay, so now your foot has changed. Like, now that we haven't used it anymore, it's no longer, like, you have hammer toes now it's doing this thing. It's sickling. Like, can we go back to the doctor and ask for some other things we can do? Because, like, even though that's my scope, like, that foot is not helping. Now your hip's going weaker, and now your back is having problems. So I think we know a lot more now, and I'm really excited for what you're doing, because it does, it does give people a little bit more opportunities to change things before it gets to be something that can't be changed anymore. Am I right like?Dr. Jen Fraboni 33:55  I hope so that's the number one thing that boils my blood is whenever I would have a client come back and said, Oh, my doctor told me not to do that anymore, or not to do this anymore. And it's like, well, the more we don't use it, we lose it. So if, if you want to become fragile, if you want to, you know, age and be in more pain, then that's an option, but I hope that's not what you want, you know. And when it comes to joint health, the if your joints start to go which they are, that's part of aging, right? We're going to start to lose cartilage. They're going to start to wear and tear. That's, I hate that word, but it's true. I mean, we're, we're, they're going to change. It's part of aging. The only thing that is going to support you as those changes are happening, is muscle and being strong and having range of motion and mobility within your body. Yeah, if you don't have the mobility to move into those areas anymore, they're going to get stiffer and tighter. If you don't have the muscle strength to support it, your joints don't have any more room or cushion to support them themselves. So. What's going to happen? You're going to be in more pain, and you're not going to be able to do more things. If we stop moving and to our full ranges of motion, if we stop strengthening throughout our range of motion and and putting that tension across the tendons and the muscles and loading the joints, then we're going to end up in more pain.Lesley Logan 35:23  Yeah, yeah, yeah, you are. And this is not to knock, like, what some of the doctors say, because, like, I also think they're in a practice and they're operating on some interesting information. But I definitely would laugh when someone come and go, I'm not allowed to flex or extend my spine. And I'm like, how did you drive here today? Like, how did we how do we get here? And I just want you to notice that while you take your shoes off right now, you're in flexion. So can I, can I maybe get some permission to move you in a safe way, in those positions so that we can keep them? Yeah, I think that's that's like, thank goodness for you and the work that you're doing, and you do it in a way that actually makes people excited to think about their bodies. And I think that's so beautiful, because it's really hard to do in a world where people want a quick fix, they want the five in five days how do I get out of this? And it's like, Well, you probably didn't get into it. And I just really want to highlight, like, your your focus on like, what are all the other things we could be listening to, you know? And I think that that is something that, as you know, majority of the listeners on this show are women, and there's a few good men, but especially as women, especially as women, like we, tend to it starts with the sleep, and then it starts with the fueling of the food, and then it starts with lack of water. And then, you know, all of us, it's like it's a slow thing, and it's like there are some things we could actually maybe take a look at and be a little bit more priority based on those, even if we don't have time, and see how that affects the rest of our bodies. Dr. Jen Fraboni 36:41  1,000% Lesley Logan 36:43  Yeah, I really want to, like, talk to you for hours, but we're gonna take a brief break, and we're gonna find out how people can find you, follow you and work with you. Lesley Logan 36:49  All right, Docjenfit, where do you hang out? Where is your favorite place for people to connect with you, work with you. Do you have any programs that they can look into if they're interested in this?Dr. Jen Fraboni 37:00  Yeah. I mean the number one place, I check my DMs all the time. It's me, so docjenfit on Instagram is my number one place I hang out. I do upload Tiktok as well, but I don't check Tiktok, so don't try to reach out to me there. YouTube, I do look at comments there, so I get back to everyone there, but I feel like my community is on Instagram, and that's where I started. That's where everything is. So connect with me there if you have any questions, and I have Jen Health. So jen.health, there's no dot com or anything, or also look up the app Jen Health. And if you ever wanted to find something rather than scrolling my Instagram, you can go sign up on Jen Health. It's completely free to sign up. And we have a Discover tab where you can literally type in knee pain or knee and stairs or like low back pain or bending, or whatever it is that you want to and there's going to be something that pops up that can help you. Those are essentially my Instagram searchable. So all my recent posts always get uploaded there, and you can search freely as needed. We also have programs on there so that you're not just looking for a quick fix within those couple exercises that may or may not help, but you're the programs I created, because I'm not individually with you, but my low back plan, (inaudible) plan, is all about like, Okay, let's take a look at the entire system here and how it all can work into helping to improve and reduce low back pain. We're talking mobility stability from the ground up. We're talking strengthening progressively into the body and really building in key areas that are often neglected in five to 15 minutes a day. I'm not trying to take you away from your other workouts or your other life responsibilities, I'm trying to just sprinkle things in little by little, so that you are starting to introduce something different that you might have been neglecting in your body. I love all that that's so helpful. Lesley Logan 37:00  And I think it's really cool, because when people can take some ownership and explore and like also understand, I think the more we understand our body, the easier it is for us to actually like, communicate about what's going on with it, and also advocate for ourselves. If you do need to go see a doctor and they do tell you things, you can go you can advocate for or against or get a second opinion. You can have a lot more authority of yourself when those things do come up. So you're just so wonderful. Thank you for that. Okay, you have given us a lot already, but bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it, what do you have for us?Dr. Jen Fraboni 38:14  Everyday take a breath in to the sides of your rib cage, like not, not into your shoulders, not into your neck, not into your chest. Take a breath and think of closing your mouth, taking your breath, as if your breath is pulling back into your nasal cavity and expanding across your ribs. Sometimes I like to just take my hands on my rib cage, take five deep, long, slow breaths there. You're going to see how pain just starts to diminish. Stress starts to diminish. Things start to feel better within your body. And the only way that we start to know how to move forward is if we tune in first.Lesley Logan 40:00  Oh, my goodness. I love that. I love that so much. That's literally how I like people to breathe when they're in my classes. I just feel like I'm like, Ah, so much validation. I'm obsessed with you. Can you come around the world with me? Anyways, you're just, thank you so much, Jen, just for being you and what you do in this world, and also just being so authentic about how you're on this journey as a human being, so that everyone can also be on that journey with you, but also so that people can be empowered. I'm really, really grateful for you and all these amazing tips. Lesley Logan 40:28  Be It babes, how are going to use these tips in your life? I highly recommend following Docjenfit on Instagram. Make sure you tell her. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it, you know that friend who's always got something going on like just share it with them, because maybe they just need to hear from a different person that it doesn't have to always be what it is, doesn't have to be limiting. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 40:48  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 41:30  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 41:36  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 41:40  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 41:47  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 41:51  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Join Kristin Coverly as she explores the health benefits of gratitude, practices to incorporate into your daily life, and chats with guests Allison Denney and Ann and Lynn Teachworth about their gratitude practices. Gain information and tools you can immediately apply to your personal and professional lives! Resources: ABMP Education Center: https://www.abmp.com/learn/ ABMP CE Socials Event: https://www.abmp.com/ce-socials What is Gratitude and Why Is It So Important?: https://positivepsychology.com/gratitude-appreciation/ The Neuroscience of Gratitude & Its Effects on the Brain: https://positivepsychology.com/neuroscience-of-gratitude/ The Effects of Gratitude Interventions: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10393216/ Health benefits of gratitude: https://www.uclahealth.org/news/article/health-benefits-gratitude 11 Best Gratitude Apps to Increase Your Wellbeing: https://positivepsychology.com/gratitude-apps/ Host: Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of professional education at ABMP. She loves creating continuing education courses, events, and resources to support massage therapists and bodyworkers as they enhance their lives and practices. Contact her at ce@abmp.com. Guests: Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and certified YouTuber. You can find her massage tutorials at YouTube.com/RebelMassage. She is also passionate about creating products that are kind, simple, and productive for therapists to use in their practices. Her products, along with access to her blog and CE opportunities, can be found at rebelmassage.com.  Ann and Lynn Teachworth of Trunamics integrate structural, functional, and energetic concepts to help good therapists be great. Ann is director of education at Inspirit School of Healing Arts. She integrates manual therapy, energetic modalities, the Franklin Method, yoga, breathwork, meditation, and mindfulness to help people understand and experience their design and function more fully. Lynn has been a licensed massage therapist for over 25 years, and he specializes in pain, sports injuries, and sports performance. One of only a few therapists in the world with advanced training in structural bodywork, biomechanics, movement, and energy medicine, he is able to address a wide variety of acute and chronic injuries. Learn more at www.trunamics.com. Sponsor: Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                      Website: anatomytrains.com                        Email: info@anatomytrains.com             Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains                       Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA   

Thinking about hiring a marketing agency for your boutique fitness or wellness business? In this episode, Christa Gurka shares exactly what you need to know before you spend a single dollar on paid ads.Christa breaks down the essential marketing metrics and strategies every studio owner should understand — from CPC, CPA, and CAC to lifetime value (LTV) and conversion rates — so you can make informed decisions and avoid wasting money.Whether you run a Pilates studio, yoga studio, or private-pay PT clinic, this episode will help you become confident in your marketing conversations, know what red flags to watch for, and understand how to measure real results from your ad spend.

Send Jackie A Message!What does it actually take to build a seven-figure coaching business? In this episode, Jackie Murphy pulls back the curtain on the 10 core business philosophies that guided every major decision in scaling her coaching business to $1.5 million in revenue—without burning out.This isn't about tactics or quick wins. It's about the foundational beliefs that shape how you build, how you scale, and how you create a business that serves your life instead of consuming it.You'll learn:Why returning to foundations (like going back to the ballet barre) is what you do when you're stuckHow marketing became the #1 skill that unlocked everythingWhy sales is service—and the client conversation that changed everythingHow to make decisions using both data and intuitionWhy boring, predictable businesses make more money than chaotic onesThe year Jackie focused on ONE thing and doubled her revenueThe baseboard story that teaches the power of tiny tweaksHow building with intention from day one creates long-term sustainabilityWhy problems scale but strategies scale too—and what that means for your businessListen now if you're ready to build a business that's profitable AND sustainableKey Takeaways✅ Foundations aren't a one-time thing—return to them when you're stuck. Check your messaging, offer, and framework before creating something new.✅ Marketing is the #1 skill that unlocks everything else. If people don't know you exist, your expertise doesn't matter.✅ Sales is service when you believe in your work. Helping someone say yes to transformation is your responsibility, not manipulation.✅ Use data AND intuition—data tells you what happened, intuition guides what to do next.✅ Boring businesses make money—predictable, repeatable systems create freedom and profitability.✅ Stop outsourcing your confidence—you already know more than you think. Trust your expertise.✅ Momentum comes from focus—pick ONE priority and go all in. That's how revenue doubles.✅ Tiny tweaks create massive results—like cleaning baseboards, find the small thing holding everything back.✅ How you build now is how you'll experience it later—build with intention and sustainability from day one.✅ Problems scale, strategies scale—fix root problems deeply instead of trying to outrun them with more effort.About Jackie MurphyJackie Murphy is a business coach specializing in helping yoga, Pilates, barre, and boutique fitness studio owners transition from teacher mindset to CEO leadership. She runs the Studio CEO Program and Grow Mastermind, hosts the Studio CEO podcast, and operates Run Like Clockwork as an Asana/ClickUp expert and project management consultant. Jackie has built her coaching business to $1.5 million in revenue by focusing on sustainable growth, systems, and strategic marketing.Work with Jackie Murphy Say Hi on Instagram @studioceoofficial Level up your Marketing Skills in the Free Marketing Training:https://www.jackiegmurphy.com/3-marketing-mistakes Learn more about The Studio CEO Program: https://www.jackiegmurphy.com/studioceo

AI isn't just writing your emails anymore—it's reading your hormones and mapping your risk. In this episode, endocrinologist and longevity doctor Dr. Fady Hannah-Shmouni talks about full-body MRIs, cancer blood tests, muscle-driven longevity, HRT, and an at-home cortisol test called ELI. We explore where AI, wearables, and testing truly help women, and where they fuel anxiety, waste money, and dull intuition. We also get real about supplements, bad actors in wellness, and what actually matters if you want to stay strong and functional at 80+. Listen if you want a grounded roadmap for using data, testing, and hormone support to extend your healthspan—not just add more noise to your wellness life. WE TALK ABOUT:  06:00 - Why the future of prevention is continuous data, not yearly check-ups 09:15 - From bulky wearables to ingestibles and toilet sensors: where tracking is headed 13:25 - The $10 trillion wellness economy, influencer noise, and why most women feel lost 18:22 - The truth about supplements: Risks, contaminants, and the few "non-negotiables" 22:30 - Why you don't need 20 biohacks to live longer 28:00 - Tumor-cell blood tests, full-body MRI, and how to think about false positives 35:00 - Sick-care vs wellness: Why women are pushed into the wellness economy 38:05 - How ELI works: Instant saliva cortisol, AI, and a new "Fitbit for your stress" 44:15 - CRP, inflammation, and why a low score is a longevity superpower 48:10 - Muscle as a longevity organ and why women can't "Pilates only" forever 52:10 - Perimenopause, andropause, lost productivity, and why this decade is a wake-up call 57:30 - HRT and dementia/heart disease risk: What the newer evidence suggests SPONSORS: Join me in Costa Rica for Optimize Her, a 5-night luxury women's retreat in Costa Rica with yoga, healing rituals, and biohacking workshops—only 12 spots available. Feeling bloated, tired, or hormonally off? Try BiOptimizers — supplements that actually absorb and work for women's health. Get 15% off with code BIOHACKINGBRITTANY. RESOURCES: Free gift: Download my hormone-balancing, fertility-boosting chocolate recipe. Explore my luxury retreats and wellness events for women. Shop my faves: Check out my Amazon storefront for wellness essentials. ELI Health website and Instagram Dr. Fady Hannah-Shmouni's Instagram LET'S CONNECT: Instagram, TikTok, Facebook Shop my favorite health products Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube Music

In this episode of HALO Talks, host Pete Moore sits down with long-time friend and industry veteran Tom Muller, owner of Elevate Fitness in Syracuse, NY. With roots that stretch back to the Gold's Gym days, Tom shares his journey through decades of shifting trends, club expansions, and the pivotal decision to rebrand and tech-enable his business for the modern member experience. From innovative fitness programming and thriving tennis and swim programs to the impact of major local investments like Micron and Amazon, Tom reveals the strategies that have kept Elevate thriving in a stable, but fiercely competitive market.  Tom has always focused on building strong programming for his clubs. Under his guidance, both locations have developed powerful personal training programs and dynamic group exercise offerings. Group X classes, including yoga and Pilates, are a highlight, and Tom even launched a dedicated Pilates studio for reformer sessions. As fitness trends changed, he also transitioned away from spinning classes, transforming that area into a personal training studio and expanding turf areas. Whether you're a fitness entrepreneur, club owner, or just passionate about the HALO sector, you'll find plenty of actionable insights in what Tom has gone through. Stay tuned for a deep dive into leadership, community, and the evolving future of fitness in Upstate New York! Regarding keeping clubs relevant Muller states, "I think we've done a decent job of keeping our capex up, staying relevant, and having the clubs new. I mean they're built in the 70's! And I don't think when you walked in you probably didn't think you were going back in the 70's." Key themes discussed Club evolution and facility repurposing. Strength training's resurgence in fitness trends. Member-focused tech and software upgrades. Layered memberships and revenue strategies. Impact of local economic developments (Micron, Amazon.) Tennis and swim programming excellence. Real estate ownership and long-term club investment. A Few Key Takeaways:  1. Club Evolution & Adaptability: Tom shares his story from Gold's Gym to Elevate and explains how adapting the club's facilities (converting tennis and racquetball courts to new amenities, etc) has been key to staying current with industry trends and maintaining relevance in the community. 2. Focus on Programming & Membership Layers: A strong emphasis is placed on diverse programming: Personal training, Group X classes, Pilates, yoga, and more. Tom also highlights the move to layered memberships, allowing for upselling and greater value for members, especially through services like recovery centers. 3. Leveraging Technology: Switching to an integrated platform like Zenoti streamlined operations, combined all member-facing tech under one roof, and has allowed Tom and his team to better track member behavior, manage layered memberships, offer targeted promotions, and drive revenue more efficiently. 4. Real Estate Ownership as a Strategic Advantage: Owning the club real estate provides flexibility for ongoing capital improvements. Muller underscores how continuous investment in capex helps keep the clubs up-to-date and competitive, especially crucial in a stable but slowly evolving market like Syracuse. 5: Strength in Tennis, Swimming, and Community Roots: Tom mentioned that tennis and swim programming are extremely stable parts of the business, with strong staff and high-quality instruction leading to waiting lists despite competition. Tom's approach is to "grow where you're planted," mastering the local market and building deep community ties rather than spreading too thin or constantly pursuing greener pastures. Resources:  Tom Muller: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-muller-elevate-fitness    Elevate Fitness: https://www.elevatesyracuse.com  Integrity Square: https://www.integritysq.com Prospect Wizard: https://www.theprospectwizard.com Promotion Vault: https://www.promotionvault.com HigherDose: https://www.higherdose.com

This week on the Mind Movement Health podcast, Kate Boyle talks with Xeba Zareie founder of Preme, about her recovery from severe gut issues and the science behind her prebiotic, electrolyte and gut-repair products. They explain the difference between prebiotics and probiotics, the importance of FODMAP-friendly fibers, and why magnesium and trace minerals matter for digestion and mood. The episode offers practical steps to support gut health: increase plant diversity and fiber gradually, consider targeted supplements like magnesium glycinate and hyaluronic acid for gut repair, get tested if you bloat easily, and support detoxification with hydration, sweating and liver-supportive practices.   Connect with Xeba Zareie: When founder Xeba Zareie struggled with persistent gut illness, the usual solutions—antibiotics and store-bought probiotics—only made her worse. She finally found relief through Functional Medicine, using a low-FODMAP diet and targeted prebiotic fiber. But that experience revealed a larger problem: most people can't afford out-of-pocket Functional Medicine care, and most “gut-friendly” brands aren't actually IBS-friendly, often contain added probiotics, and frankly… taste bad. Determined to create both indulgence and alternative-medicine-level support for the growing number of people with gut issues, Xeba founded Preme—a premium gut-health brand offering noticeable, science-backed medicinal nutrition you actually crave. What began in her Dallas kitchen has grown into a targeted line of gut-focused staples: two prebiotic electrolyte drink mixes and an unflavored prebiotic fiber powder, all designed for even the most sensitive stomachs. Rooted in a lifelong healing journey and crafted with clinical insight, Preme brings body-and-soul support to everyday wellness. It's gut care that's tasty, approachable, and made with Functional Medicine-doctor-prescribed prebiotic fibers and premium ingredients. Because gut health shouldn't be a luxury, it should be trusted support, finally within reach. Website: https://premefoods.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drinkpreme/   Struggling to make your health feel easy? If you've been confused by conflicting nutrition advice… unsure how to train for your body… or feeling like your energy is running on empty, this is your turning point. I'm hosting the Metabolism Makeover Masterclass, designed to make everything finally make sense. No more guessing. No more overwhelm. Just clear, practical steps to optimise your energy, nutrition, and movement so you can thrive through your 30s, 40s and beyond. Ready to make health feel simple again? Join me on Friday 28th of November for a power hour at 1.30pm-2.30pm AEDT. Can't make it live? That's ok, everyone that signs up will receive the replay. Check it out and join us here.   Restore and Align Pilates Retreat March 20–22, 2026 | Torquay, Victoria Ready to go on retreat? Join us for a truly rejuvenating weekend by the sea at the Restore and Align Pilates Retreat—a carefully curated experience designed to help you realign, restore, and reconnect with yourself.   Set in the beautiful coastal town of Torquay, Victoria this local retreat combines energising and restorative Pilates sessions, nourishing food, gentle beach walks, and soulful connection. Whether you're looking to deepen your Pilates practice, take time to rest, or simply recharge in nature, this three-day retreat offers the perfect space to pause and reset—inside and out.   You'll enjoy: Daily Pilates to support strength, flexibility, and alignment Wholesome, seasonal meals to nourish and energise Guided beach walks and mindful moments by the ocean A welcoming, supportive community of like-minded souls   And more…   Come home feeling grounded, refreshed, and reconnected. Your body will thank you and so will your soul. Limited places available so book your spot now and begin your journey to restore and align. To check it out and book your place, click here.   Connect with Kate: Website: MindMovementHealth.com.au Facebook: facebook.com/MindMovementHealth Instagram: instagram.com/MindMovementHealth Haven't subscribed to the podcast yet? Be sure to subscribe and leave us a review at: Apple Podcasts    

The sacroiliac or SI joint connects the ilium to the sacrum and the lower body to the spine. When it is hyper mobile it can cause discomfort in the low back, hip and leg. In this episode we discuss two case studies and strategies for helping clients manage this complex condition.Moving Conversation Socials     Brian's Book on Low Back Pain and Conditions:   Back Exercise; Stabilize, Mobilize and Reduce Pain   https://a.co/d/8IUb7L6     Email: movingconvos@gmail.com  IG: @movingconvos  FB: Moving Conversations     Brian   IG: @fit4lifedc   FB: https://www.facebook.com/brianrichey/      Nora   IG: nora.s.john.7   FB: https://www.facebook.com/nora.s.john.7 

This episode is a masterclass in resilience, the courage to question narratives (even about yourself), and what it means to keep moving when everything falls apart. Amber Joliat built a thriving wellness empire in Toronto—teaching movement, yoga, and Pilates to thousands, creating community in multiple studios across the city. Then, in June 2020, it all burned down in 72 hours. She had been 'cancelled'. In this raw and revelatory conversation, Amber shares what happened when she became the target of a coordinated cancel campaign during the height of pandemic-era social justice movements. From public accusations to media takedowns, she lost her business, her community, and nearly her sense of self. But the story doesn't end there. This episode traces Amber's journey from childhood grief and the healing power of movement, through entrepreneurial success and devastating loss, to a diagnosis that forced yet another reckoning. Essential listening for anyone who has endured a pivot that was not of their choosing and continues to seek out their inner courage to navigate the challenges as they come. Links + Resources Full show notes Shop: 30% off Rise + Shine: Guided Path to Heart-Led Living and Leadership  

Join the Co+Creation Design Club: https://www.diydesignmybiz.com/clubToday I'm chatting with Chloe & Vickie of The Movement Perspective, two clever Pilates‑studio owners and coaches who recently created a standout Instagram carousel that blew the roof off their reach. We dig into how the idea came about, how they designed it (with a little help from me), what roadblocks they faced and the exciting results that followed.Key Takeaways:How they transformed raw membership‑statistic data into a visually compelling carousel The importance of brand colours, font hierarchy, arrows, movement and design elements in making slides work, not just “look nice”How combining strategy (know your audience) + design (make it scroll‑stop) + CTA/coaching content = meaningful resultsThe results: ~28,500 views, 89% non‑followers reached, 394 profile visits, 71 new followers from one carousel postWhy templates, brand asset libraries and on‑brand visuals save massive time and increase consistency (especially for busy business owners)The value of ongoing support, feedback and community in the ClubTimestamps:Intro 0:00Interview 2:06Wrap up 26:25Vickie and Chloe are the co-founders of The Movement Perspective and the powerhouse duo behind the Studio Mastery™ Method; a six-month mastermind helping female boutique Pilates studio owners add $10K+ in monthly revenue, fill their classes on repeat, and finally pay themselves without burning out. After building their own 7-figure studio, Breathe Pilates Studio, they now teach others how to do the same.. with simple systems, smart strategy, and a whole lot of fun. Follow Vickie and Chloe on @the.movement.perspectiveWatch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/GdxJI8YKFTARead on the Blog: https://whitedeer.com.au/ep240/WORK WITH JACQUI:// DIY Design My Biz: The best course for business owners DIYing their own brand and graphics in Canva. Learn more: https://whitedeer.com.au/diy-dmb// The Co+Creation Design Club: Design WITH the help of a professional designer in this high-touch coaching space: https://whitedeer.com.au/designclub// Design Studio: If you're after fully done-for-you design services my studio team can help! https://whitedeer.com.au/designstudio

As Jesus walks to the garden where he will spend his final moments with the disciples, he continues to divulge the relationship between the persons of the Trinity. The Spirit comes from the Father and submits to the Son. The Son commands the Spirit but submits to the Father. And the Father has authority over the Son and the Spirit while still honoring both as equal in divinity. Jesus prays for His present disciples as well as those who will believe in the future, asking that they might know the Father's love and that they might be protected from the evil one. Finally, Jesus is captured and sent to trial before the Jews and before Pilate.John 15:26-27 – 1:11 . John 16 - 1:28 . John 17 - 7:34 . John 18 - 11:47 . Isaiah 41 - 20:11 .  :::Christian Standard Bible translation.All music written and produced by John Burgess Ross.Co-produced by Bobby Brown, Katelyn Pridgen, Eric Williamson & the Christian Standard Biblefacebook.com/commuterbibleinstagram.com/commuter_bibletwitter.com/CommuterPodpatreon.com/commuterbibleadmin@commuterbible.org

In this episode of The Pilates Business Podcast, host Seran Glanfield sits down with Julian Barnes, CEO and Co-Founder of BFS, to unpack the brand-new BFS Pilates Industry Report—the most comprehensive data set on profitable boutique studios to date. Together, they dive into what truly separates high-performing Pilates studios from the rest, including how smaller spaces, premium pricing, and dedicated management drive consistent growth and strong margins.Whether you're wondering how your numbers stack up or what it actually takes to build a million-dollar Pilates business, this conversation offers data-driven insights and validation that success isn't about size—it's about strategy, systems, and smart operations.You'll learn:Why Pilates studios are leading the boutique fitness industry in profitability and revenueHow the Find–Enroll–Retain (FER) framework fuels steady growthThe #1 factor that consistently drives higher total revenue (hint: it's not working harder!)Why referrals still outperform ads for lead generationAnd how independent, owner-led studios are thriving—without franchise backingIf you're ready to transform your studio into a data-driven, profit-optimized business, this is a must-listen.Got a question for Seran? Add it here

“Here is your King.” With those words, Pilate meant to mock. John wants us to wake up. We walk through John 19 to see how the crown of thorns, the purple robe, and that trilingual inscription turn a scene of humiliation into a coronation. The crowd's cry—“We have no king but Caesar”—isn't just ancient history; it's a mirror. We love Jesus the miracle worker, but do we follow Jesus the King when his commands cut against comfort, pride, and preference?We explore why the cross functions as a throne and why “It is finished” announces more than relief—it declares a real transaction where the debt of sin is paid in full. Aramaic, Latin, and Greek broadcast his kingship across religion, government, and culture, confronting the modern urge to compartmentalize faith. If Jesus rules reality, he must rule our calendar, our bank account, our relationships, and even the hidden habits we excuse. Gratitude without obedience is admiration without allegiance.You'll hear a candid story about rescue at sea that spotlights the difference between being saved by someone and being ruled by someone. From there, we get practical: four steps for moving from selective surrender to a life shaped by the King—identify what you've held back, confess with honesty, submit control instead of relying on willpower, and practice steady obedience that forms new desires over time. Perfection isn't the standard; surrender is. If he is not King of all, he is not our King at all.If this message challenged you, share it with a friend, subscribe for more teaching, and leave a review to help others find the show. What's one area you'll surrender to Jesus this week?

In this episode, Frank Sohn talks with Hiren Shah, founder of B2B-Matrix, about how small and mid-sized manufacturers and distributors are modernizing their sales processes through AI-driven CPQ, CRM, and ERP integration. Hiren, a former SAP America consultant turned Salesforce expert, shares his perspective on the future of Configure-Price-Quote (CPQ), Revenue Cloud, and AI in sales automation. He explains B2B-Matrix's three-phase Salesforce AI project, where automation is already reducing clicks, quote times, and approval delays—and how the final phase will connect directly to ERP and internet data. You'll also hear his insights on: When and why companies should migrate from Salesforce CPQ to Revenue Cloud Advanced (RCA) The "death of middleware" and how modern APIs enable seamless CRM-CPQ-ERP integration The top three customer priorities today: AI, master data cleanup, and faster transaction velocity Why CPQ customers typically replace systems every eight years How B2B-Matrix white-labels its services for larger consulting firms and delivers sub-$100K CPQ projects for SMBs Beyond business, Hiren also shares his personal passion for Pilates and Hot Yoga, a balance that keeps him focused as he leads digital transformation projects for manufacturers across North America. Whether you're interested in Salesforce Revenue Cloud, CPQ modernization, AI in sales, or integration strategy, this episode offers practical, real-world insights from someone who's bridging enterprise architecture, business process design, and cloud innovation.

Jesus' first interview with Pilate crystalizes His universal and transcendent Lordship-- irregardless of appearances.

In this FYF episode, Lesley Logan celebrates what happens when preparation meets opportunity—and how readiness creates freedom when life speeds up. From a pianist who mastered the wrong concerto onstage to community wins that prove preparation meets courage, this week's stories are all about trusting your instincts and believing you've got what it takes. Lesley also shares how being proactive in your goals can help you find freedom and peace when life speeds up.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How a pianist's quick pivot became a lesson in confidence. Why following your gut leads to better results than overthinking.Community wins that celebrate small victories and authentic effort.How Lesley's year-ahead planning turned stress into calm momentum.The power of gratitude to silence self-judgment and refocus your energy.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsMaria João Pires - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFbS8MuqD3W If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Hey, Be It babe. How are you? Happy Friday. Happy November 14th. Now we're midway through the month, just like that. You know, a few weeks ago, I told you about the 13th month, and I'm just telling you right now, the more I think about how, like, we used to run the calendar off of 28 days in the moon cycle. Like, doesn't it just make sense? Every FYF, I'm like, oh, look at that. Now it's halfway through. Like, yeah, kind of, right? So I'm just saying, like, the more I do this and, like, wait, especially this month, because we end on the Friday was the seventh of 14th. It's just like, like, easy math. And I'm like, yeah, it should just end on the 28th then we start a new month. But anyways, we're, you know, not on that calendar. And I would love to vote that in, but the whole world has to, I guess. So, anyways, this is the episodes where we share some inspiration. Share wins of yours. Share a win of mine. Realize that we are doing a freaking great job, or doing better than we thought. And a little affirmation to kick your weekend off. And if you haven't yet listened to the interview and recap this week, go do it just right below this. You can start with the recap first, Brad and I have a lot of fun bantering, then we answer a question of yours, then we talk about what we liked. And if you are like, oh, that's interesting, I want to hear it from the horse's mouth, you can listen to the interview, and I highly recommend it, because we have some really cool guests. Lesley Logan 1:59  Okay, so I this came across my feed, and this is what I, okay, I don't play instruments. I did play for share like tenor sax. I had a retainer and braces when I learned and then when I took them out, I couldn't play anymore, and so I just stopped playing. It's not funny, but at any rate, since I have been a musician, I have prepared music I have, like had to memorize, and so I know the effort, but this is how the reel goes. And there's a link in the show notes you can, like, go watch it. Okay? When they told you it's Mozart's Piano Concerto number 20 instead of number 23. So she had one minute of the orchestra playing before she had to step in and play the piano, okay? And so here's the thing. The caption says it's probably every music's worst nightmare. Imagine you're sitting here sitting on stage, ready to play your concerto, and the orchestra begins to perform a completely different piece. That's exactly what happened to the great Maria João Pires, or Pires in 1999 when she stepped in to replace another pianist on short notice. In a formidable tour de force performance, Pire's charge changed course and miraculously didn't miss a beat of Mozart's Piano Concerto Number 20 and not 20, 20 not 23 like she had been expecting. This stood out to me, because as a recovering perfectionist and overachiever like I imagine how much time she probably, like, prepped herself for the piece that she has to play, because it's not like they have the music in front of you guys. They just play like they are supposed to just play like it's coming out of them, and there's no music in front of them. And you know, she had one minute to, like, just feel her feelings, and then step in and be it till she sees it. And it is just so beautiful, because imagine, had she found out before the concert started, then she probably could have told herself a million different things and like, even, like, freak herself out a different way, because she didn't have that opportunity. She had to, like, be it till she sees it as, like the other performance, and she didn't miss a beat. And it's worth watching, just to go through the emotions with her and realize, like, this is what you're watching someone step into their power and believe in themselves in such an awesome way. And ladies, we can do this right? We can do these things. And I think we're like, Oh, my God. I like, prepare for my meeting to be on this date, and then something happens, and the meeting doesn't happen, then you're like, oh, but I'm ready for it. I'm frustrated. My love, like, your you will be more authentic the moment it happens. You might be too prepared. You might like, so I would just say, like, anytime an opportunity comes up, you're like, Oh, I'm not ready for this. What if you were? What if you were ready? She was. It's beautiful. I'm like, obsessed with it. I've watched it several times. I'm so into it. Lesley Logan 4:56  All right. Time for wins of yours. Got really fired up. Okay, these are from Instagram. Thanks for sending it in. You can send your wins in to beitpod.com/questions and you can send longer wins in because Instagram does, like, make them super short. So again, like, the longer ones that I've read in the past, you can send those into beitpod.com/questions plus any questions you want me to answer, like, it's a great way to get answers out of me. So, lynneconnolly36 says, covered six back to back classes this week, 5 am wake and clients love them. Holy freaking moly. Lynn, you are a badass, getting up at 5am and then covering six back to back classes. Oh, you are phenomenal. You like, I don't even know how you did it, but way to go. And, of course, the clients love them, because you're authentically you, and you're amazing. Way to go. Lesley Logan 5:39  hli_pilates great private session yesterday. Thank you. Body feels so much better. It is a win when our bodies feel better. I love that you're celebrating that, hli, I just absolutely love it, because it's so easy for us to focus on when our bodies don't feel good, and that you're celebrating your body feels better today is humongous. Way to be it till you see it. julia_reddout, I subbed a level two class in the studio where I take classes. They loved it, and it made my day.Lesley Logan 6:06  Yeah, because those are your people. You know them. You know what they need. You know, I'm so proud of you. I'm so happy for you. What a win, guys. Thank you for sending these in. I just I want more women to share things that they are doing, because the dudes certainly do it. And I was raised like, don't brag, be humble and you want to know something, it didn't get me anywhere. In fact, the more people knew what I was capable of, the more opportunities came to my place. Fun story, I have been teaching for a long time. There was an the big conference that was going on. It was 2019 I think it might have been 28 might have been 2018, 2018, fall of 2018 and I was doing a photo shoot at a big conference, and this woman who hires teachers for another conference saw me, and she had hired me for the next year's conference of her, but her company does, and she'd hired me for some business coaching stuff that I'd applied for, and she saw me doing some exercises on the equipment. She's like, oh, do you teach? Can you teach some classes? And of course, I was like, fuck. Of course, I teach. What the fuck? But then I was like, Oh, she doesn't know who I as a me, as a teacher. She's only seen my application for the business things. I'm not doing a good enough job making sure people know what I do and know what I'm good at. So we gotta start bragging more, babes, and that's why we have to start making Fridays at least Fridays, but if not every day, a day where you celebrate what you fucking slay, what you did, and if it was I just actually did my full schedule and didn't cancel anything, that's a fucking win. In high school, there was a sign that said every class every day, and I'm telling you that wasn't always what happened in my life, but every time I did every class in a day, I was like, Yes, I did it. I know that surprises you as recovering perfectionist, that I would cut classes, but I really thought High School was, like, beneath me, and I just couldn't wait to get out. And I was like, I've got a 4.2 like, this is not gonna take it away from me. I probably could leave. So anyways, that's my rebellious stage. Okay, I gotta share a win of mine, a win of mine. Lesley Logan 8:04  Here we go. So here's what I'm super proud of. Last year, around this time, I was cramming to get everything done before we left for winter tour, and I got sick, and we had to, like, look at everything that didn't get done yet and go, Okay, which of these things can we not do? And for the first time ever, we missed YouTube releases. We did because I could not possibly film YouTube and podcasts and classes for OPC, and so the podcast and class of OPC won and YouTube lost. And from that moment, I had my team, and I had to, like, look at the next year and change how we got things done, so that I was well ahead of schedule, that by the middle of November, I would be done filming things, not just for the end of this year, but the beginning of next year, so that we are not scrambling in case I get sick in the fall, right? And so I'm proud to say that right now, the newsletters through beginning of next year are written, classes are recorded, and podcast recaps are almost done, but we're not scrambling. I don't feel like I'm in a rush, and I'm really excited to go on tour, knowing that when I come back, like, I'm just back in my regular schedule and not like scrambling. So my win is, is that a year ago, I had a vision, and always that was the year before, that was a different was, like, similar vision, but we just keep getting better at it. And why can't I have a win on something that was already a win? Because I'm just getting better at it. And you reflect, you refine, and you continue. And that's how it goes. You're not ever gonna do anything perfectly the first time. And thank God, because then you go, Oh, I didn't like that part actually, I'm glad I didn't do that. So I'm just saying, My win is I'm ahead. I'm on track. I did what I said I wanted to do, and I, you know, I started this project a year ago. So slay the year. What a win for the year, not just the week, okay, but I like those small wins. I like the small wins. Lesley Logan 10:04  Okay. Your affirmation over the weekend. I practice gratitude for all that I have and all that is yet to come. I practice gratitude for all that I have and all that is yet to come. Do you have a gratitude practice? Do you know what the easiest thing is to do? Take a piece of paper and just write down. I'm grateful for the air around me. I'm grateful that I'm listening to this podcast right now. I'm grateful that I got up this morning. All of a sudden, you'll start behind gratitude for other things. It's kind of fun. It's kind of unique. I know some people poo poo a gratitude, but like my therapist said to me, gratitude and judgment can't live in the same space, and that changed everything for me. So whenever I feel judgey about myself, I just start listing off things I'm grateful for. Sometimes, like, I'm grateful that my bed is made. I'm grateful I took a shower today. I'm grateful that last week I got my nails done when I had some time, right? Like, those are wins. They gave me gratitude as well. All right, babe, you know what to do. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 10:59  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 11:40  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 11:45  Lesley Logan It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team@desenho.coSpeaker 1 11:50  our theme music is by Ali at Apex. Production Music and our branding by designer and artist Gianfranco ciofe.Lesley Logan 11:57  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 12:01  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Brad and David close out another week Yesterday was a repeat interview The Big Blue Bash at Mar-a-Lago Golf Talk Article by Vicki Sykes ------------------ Mark 15:6-21 (ESV) Pilate Delivers Jesus to Be Crucified 6 Now at the feast he used to release for them one prisoner for whom they asked. 7 And among the rebels in prison, who had committed murder in the insurrection, there was a man called Barabbas. 8 And the crowd came up and began to ask Pilate to do as he usually did for them. 9 And he answered them, saying, “Do you want me to release for you the King of the Jews?” 10 For he perceived that it was out of envy that the chief priests had delivered him up. 11 But the chief priests stirred up the crowd to have him release for them Barabbas instead. 12 And Pilate again said to them, “Then what shall I do with the man you call the King of the Jews?” 13 And they cried out again, “Crucify him.” 14 And Pilate said to them, “Why? What evil has he done?” But they shouted all the more, “Crucify him.” 15 So Pilate, wishing to satisfy the crowd, released for them Barabbas, and having scourged Jesus, he delivered him to be crucified. Jesus Is Mocked 16 And the soldiers led him away inside the palace (that is, the governor's headquarters), and they called together the whole battalion. 17 And they clothed him in a purple cloak, and twisting together a crown of thorns, they put it on him. 18 And they began to salute him, “Hail, King of the Jews!” 19 And they were striking his head with a reed and spitting on him and kneeling down in homage to him. 20 And when they had mocked him, they stripped him of the purple cloak and put his own clothes on him. And they led him out to crucify him. The Crucifixion 21 And they compelled a passerby, Simon of Cyrene, who was coming in from the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to carry his cross. __________________ 5 Core Values of SWAT 1. God's Word 2. Prayer 3. Evangelism 4. Discipleship 5. Community ------------------ https://swatradio.com/ SWAT - Spiritual Warriors Advancing Truth Call us Toll-Free at: +1-844-777-7928 Email Us a Question: ask@swatradio.com FIND A SWAT MEETING Brown Family YMCA 170 Landrum Lane Ponte Vedra Beach, FL 32082 Wed. 6:30-7:30 am IHOP 3250 Hodges Blvd Jacksonville, FL 32224 Wed. Night 7-8 pm Salem Centre 7235 Bonneval Rd Jacksonville, FL Wed. 12:00-1:00 pm Jumping Jax House of Food 10131 San Jose Blvd #12 Jacksonville, FL Thursday 6:30-7:30 am The Village Inn 900 Ponce De Leon Blvd St. Augustine, FL Friday 9:00-10:30 am Woodmen Valley Chapel - Woodmen Heights Campus 8292 Woodman Valley View Colorado Springs CO 80908 Thursdays 8-9:15 pm

Ask Me A Question For Next Week's Episode!Included in this week's episode: Personal story with the politicization of fitness and it's affects on my community today. Brief history of fitness and politics. Modern politics and fitness in the military and presidents. The socioeconomic and class division of fitness and politics. Pilates. Fitness in America today is highly individualized. Fitness in liberalism and conservatism inappropriately integrates morality, religion and political beliefs into fitness and food. The nuances of extremist political conclusions of food and fitness. Food as a human right around the world and in America. Political impacts on your fitness in government like the EPA, FDA, healthcare, federal standards and more. Final message: whatever your government is willing to do to the least of the society or those abroad, they will do to you. Full stop. The government will no hesitate to withhold food from it's civilians just like it does on the global setting. The beliefs and standards you hold for individualized fitness and food is where the government will stop. If you believe it's a personal issues, then your government will not help you. Ask more of the system you pay for. You are most similar to someone on SNAP than you are to a representative. We are all one moment away from needing a subsidy to help us live. Remember, most importantly, the government officials and law makers and the wealthiest of those in our country exist because of subsidy that YOU pay for. Demand more from your government. They are already used to providing it. 

Mike Aquilina explores the complex figure of Pontius Pilate and offering thought-provoking questions that invite deeper courage, truthfulness, and fidelity to Christ in daily life. The post VEC3 – Pontius Pilate – Villains of the Early Church with Mike Aquilina – Discerning Hearts Podcast appeared first on Discerning Hearts Catholic Podcasts.

What if beauty wasn't vanity but a radical form of self-respect? In this recap, Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell revisit their inspiring conversation with aesthetic nurse and rejuvenation expert Rachel Varga, exploring what it truly means to age with confidence. From skincare and collagen to breathwork and mindset, they unpack how honoring your appearance can deepen—not diminish—your self-worth. Tune in to learn why self-care is never selfish and how real confidence shines from the inside out.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How reframing skincare as self-care redefines beauty and confidence.Why genuine confidence changes how you show up in life.How rejuvenation aligns how you feel with how you look.The role of protein, creatine, and collagen in healthy aging.How breathwork lowers cortisol and slows signs of aging.Episode References/Links:World Kindness Movement - https://www.theworldkindnessmovement.orgOPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tourPilates Journal Expo - https://xxll.co/pilatesjournalCambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandXContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsXFlash Cards - https://opc.me/flashcardsSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsLL on School of Radiance - https://beitpod.com/lesleyonachelsodSchool of Radiance Website - https://www.theschoolofradiance.com (Code: LesleyLogan15 for 15% off one-on-one sessions, tutorial, and membership)Amy Cuddy's TED Talk - https://youtu.be/Ks-_Mh1QhMc100 Acts of Love by Kim Hamer - https://a.co/d/0HLOjhO If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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It's an action. It's something that you're doing so that you can show up as your whole self and give the world the version of you that will make an impact. That cannot be bad. Lesley Logan 0:24  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:09  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the rejuvenating convo I have with Rachel Varga in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode, you need to do it, because she's amazing, and we've been using her tips, and some of them are extremely effective. I other ones I just haven't tried yet. I'm really impressed. But today, before we get into Rachel's amazing tips for your rejuvenating means, like skin all that kind of stuff, today is November 13th and it is World Kindness Day. Brad Crowell 1:40  Yes, it is. Lesley Logan 1:07  Damn it. That's what my papa Jake would say, celebrating like, meaning like we're gonna do it like that kind of damn it, okay. Celebrated internationally, this holiday was formed in 1998 to promote kindness throughout the world, and it's observed annually on November 13th as part of World Kindness Movement. It's observed in many countries, including the United States, Canada, Japan, Australia and the UAE. World Kindness Day presents us with the opportunity to reflect upon one of the most important unifying human principles. Oh, just period. On a day devoted to the positive potential of both large and small, acts of kindness try to promote and diffuse this crucial quality that brings people of every kind together.Brad Crowell 2:17  Yeah, so the World Kindness Movement. Lesley Logan 2:25  Tell us more. Brad, Brad Crowell 2:26  the world Kindness Movement is an organization, and they so well the world kindness movement.org if you're interested in reading more. I found it really intriguing that this is even a day, but I like the idea. I just think it's important that we are being conscious of this sharing kindness generally, because I think that in our extreme split political environment and belief in science and reality versus non science and non reality, it actually creates a lot of frustration. It really creates a lot of frustration for me, and this is a good reminder to that we still have to treat people who, you know, we definitely disagree with. We still have to treat them as humans, as people, even if we don't think what they're doing or thinking or saying makes sense, they're still humans, and we still have to treat them with kindness, regardless.Lesley Logan 3:18  You know, what's interesting about this is like we used to when we lived in LA, many of our neighbors were homeless, right? Like where we lived, and it's so easy. I watch people like they turn their head away from homeless people like they just don't even look at them, but then they wonder why they're not treating the area like with respect. It's like we don't feel like we're human. You know, you're not looking them in the eye. There are simple acts of kindness you can do every day. In fact, Kim Scott wrote a book, 100 Acts of Love, which you can put kindness in there. There are things you can do for people. Obviously, that book was written for people going through a loss, but there are things you can do. And it's really funny, art, art. My dad is like, he like acts like he hates talking to people. But then we go to the gym, which is through a casino, and he talks to everybody. He knows the name of every security guard. He knows every he knows the name of every parking attendant, right? He we now know the names of several dealers at the casino. And you know what I think makes them their day is that we just like, say hi. They're not they're staying there, waiting for someone to come to their booth or whatever, and we're like, morning, good morning. It just makes people feel seen. Like even just acknowledging people with an eye contact and a wave makes people feel seen. And I think that if we did more of that, the world will be a better place. So I think. Maslow hierarchy of needs is really real. Maslow's hierarchy, hierarchy of needs. It's a hard word for me tonight. And we judge people based on like, Oh my God. I can't believe they did that. But if they don't know where their food or meal or health care is coming from, of course they did that. You are in the Enlightened level because. You have some privileges to your life, and I'm not saying that to make you feel bad about yourself, but it is, we have to stop judging people who have less than us. We have to have more kindness. I I'm in. Okay, you take us through the first half of this list. It's long. Brad Crowell 5:13  All right, we're gonna move real quick through our upcoming events and travel y'all so come join us, if you, if we're gonna be near you. Okay, in November this no, this month we are going to do.Lesley Logan 5:22  Right now the month we're in. Brad Crowell 5:24  Thanks. This month we're gonna go, we're gonna have a Black Friday, Cyber Monday sale for OPC only. Okay, for OPC only. It's gonna be the 26th through December 1st. So check your email for more information. We're gonna send you an email on the 19th. Lesley Logan 5:35  We're not gonna tell you what it is, you just have to find out. Brad Crowell 5:37  So that's six days from now. Then next is winter tour. We are actually going to be on the road in December, and we've already made the announcements go to opc.me/tour for tickets, all the things.Lesley Logan 5:50  Days are already sold out, so you got to get in there quick. Brad Crowell 5:53  Yep. Okay. So next is while we're not doing a Black Friday, Cyber Monday sale in for Profitable Pilates at the end of December, we are going to have a sneak peek option offer for you to join Agency. We haven't really made this announcement anywhere except for the pod, so you are the enlightened ones. As we were talking about, we're giving you a heads up if you've ever considered joining Agency, but you weren't quite sure if it was for you. We got we're going to do just a short month where you can, like, figure it out, see if it's your jam, and join us. Lesley Logan 6:24  Well, it's a full month, but it's a short commitment.Brad Crowell 6:27  Short commitment. I mean, it'll be a month. So anyway, it'll be the end of December, December 26th through the 31st and then in January, Les?Lesley Logan 6:35  I'll be the Pilates journal Expo in Huntington Beach. It's the first one that they're doing in the US. And I've got a world premiere of a workshop that they were like, we love that people really want to, just like, ask you questions. And don't worry, there's an actual workshop to it, but it's a space where you can ask me questions. And so you want to go to xxll.co/pilatesjournal to get your tickets to that. Then also, in January, we're going to open up the early bird discount for our retreat for 2026 and many of you asked about it, you need to be on the waitlist if you want the discount. If you want to pay full price, don't get on the waitlist. It's fine. Go to crowsnestretreats.com and February, Agency Mini is happening. It is you want to get on the waitlist for that as well. Different waitlist link. It's prfit.biz/mini. What is Agency Mini? It's like three days of us digging into your business and on like a problem. So you can see what it's like to coach with us. That's for Pilates instructors and studio owners and anyone who's like in that service-based industry. And then in March, we are going to Poland, and we're going to Brussels with Karen Frischmann. There are different workshops at each they are on different days, because we cannot be in two places at once. So if you are interested in Poland, it's gonna be the one that happens before Brussels. And I can't remember the dates of it, but it's xxll.co/poland it's like the third weekend in March, and then the last weekend of March is Brussels. Not only we there with Karen Frischmann, we're gonna be there with Ignacio, whose last name I can't remember at this moment, but he's amazing, and the most beautiful eyes and the most incredible kind instructor. xxll.co/brussels and then in April, P.O.T London will be there with Claire Sparrow and some amazing other people. You're not gonna want to miss it. So there's your links they're in the show notes. Brad Crowell 8:20  Ignacio Rodriguez. Lesley Logan 8:22  Oh, Ignacio Rodriguez, yes, well, anyways, he is a special soul. I mean. Brad Crowell 8:26  He's from Spain, yeah. Lesley Logan 8:27  I know he's like, a Pilates Buddha. Brad Crowell 8:29  Yes, he's awesome. Lesley Logan 8:31  That's what I like. Whenever I was around him, I just was like, oh my God, he's the calmest person. Like his energy is so calm you cannot be anything but that around him, he doesn't listen to this podcast. So he wouldn't hear the compliment. Okay, before we get into Rachel's episode, who, what is our question this week?Brad Crowell 8:50  Okay this week, with a question on YouTube from @BodyFlexZone, all about the OPC Flashcard Deck series, they asked, Hey, could you possibly include the exo chair and the springboard in your flashcards?Lesley Logan 9:07  So BodyFlexZone, I'm sorry to tell you the news, but this is exciting too, so don't turn it off. We're not going to do that.Brad Crowell 9:15  No. Lesley Logan 9:16  No. Brad Crowell 9:17  Here's why. Lesley Logan 9:18  Here's why. They're included already. How do I explain this? The I write the cards as a classically trained instructor with classical equipment. They are edited by a contemporary trained instructor who has contemporary equipment, including she is has an exo chair and was trained on a springboard, and the measurements for how to use the hooks on your springboard exist in the Cadillac deck now.Brad Crowell 9:46  So, so while we are not creating a special deck for the exo chair or a special deck for the springboard, if you get the Chairs Deck, the exo chair information would be applicable. It's applicable. You know the information of the Chairs Deck is applicable to the exo chair. And in the same vein, the Cadillac Tower Deck is applicable. It includes information about springboard informationLesley Logan 10:09  Correct, because some springboards have pushed through bars, some springboards don't. There are cards that will say it's pro like they're marked that they might not be available on a tower, which means they're definitely not available on a springboard and so. But also, there's a card in each deck on how to use the deck, and it explains, if you have an Exo chair, like how to it doesn't say exo chair specifically. It's like, if your chair has four hooks, here's how to think about it. So both decks are very useful. And if you get those decks, if you ever have access to a full Cadillac or tower, you have a bunch of cards you get to use. You don't have to take a special training for it, because you've already been trained. So you can get our flash cards at opc.me/flashcards. All six decks are out. Oh, you might want to go to the website during the Black Friday, Cyber Monday. Brad Crowell 10:56  For those of you who were unable to hear what she said, you might want to go to the website during the Black Friday, Cyber Monday sale. Just a heads up.Lesley Logan 11:03  Don't miss it, because if you ask us later, no, we're not the we're only doing it for five days.Brad Crowell 11:09  Hey, send in your questions to the pod. Go to beitpod.com/questions where you can leave a win or a question, or you can also text us at 310-905-5534. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into this really interesting conversation we have with Rachel Varga, all about rejuvenation. Brad Crowell 11:27  Welcome back. Let's talk about Rachel Varga. Okay. Rachel is a registered nurse and an aesthetic specialist who's been in the field of non surgical rejuvenation since 2011. She's published research on eye and jawline rejuvenation, teaches doctors and nurses internationally, and now blends her expertise with biohacking to help people age well. Rachel is the founder of the School of Radiance, and also hosts the School of Radiance podcast, where she shares how skincare, lifestyle and self-care can create lasting beauty from the inside out.Lesley Logan 12:01  Yeah, I've been on her pod. You should go listen to our episodes together there, and if you like it, then you have another podcast to listen to. She's, it's, I really enjoy this because, okay, I have been wanting to have someone, an expert like this, on for a while, but I didn't want it to be a vanity, like, I didn't want people to be like, Oh, it's so vain, you know, like so many people are like, I don't know, raw milking it. So they're not going to want to talk about Botox or things like that. And I well, you know, some people get granola and they're like, I gotta not do anything to my body. But also, if something's really, like she said, if something is really bothering you, like specific lines or scars or jowls, addressing it is beneficial, because oftentimes if you feel you look better, you feel better, and if you feel better, you actually just look better, like if you actually feel good about yourself, you walk around taller, you engage with people in a different way. And so it's kind of like a chicken or the egg thing, and I appreciate her approach. If you listen to the episode, it's not like, everyone needs Botox. There's always something wrong with you. No, it's like, okay, what are some of the things you can do that are non surgical, that actually do work? I, I have, I will say you're going to want to listen to her second episode, which we're not going to talk about today, but we talk about a lot of things that are like, a waste of your money and waste your time. She's very, very intelligent and doesn't waste her time. But I do think that what she talked about is people are not viewing rejuvenation as being vain anymore. They're actually seen as a form of self-care. And I do think there's a balance of what can we do as part of our self-care routine that makes us feel better about how we look, so we feel better about how we look.Brad Crowell 13:46  Yeah. That's what I was gonna say, hardcore.Lesley Logan 13:51  Well, I don't know, like, here's the thing, I really appreciate, I forget which actress it was, what's that beautiful woman? Not Diane Lane is beautiful, but she also did one of the Fast and the Furious. She's like a dame, gray hair actress.Brad Crowell 14:06  There were 10 or 11 Fast and the Furious movies. Lesley Logan 14:09  I know the more of the recent of them, and she is like, she also was in like a beautiful bathing suit in the tabloids. And I was like, I want to look like her when I'm when I'm 80. I can't think of it. Everyone's yelling at her in their car right now, but you know who I'm talking about. She talked about how, like, she said, don't like, she's letting wrinkles happen. And I also would like to let those things happen. And there are some things that just bother me, and I don't want them to, and they become a distraction for me, being it till I see it. So I do think that if like how you look is affecting how you're operating your day. It is, there is a point where you do need to actually address, like, what is going on here, because it's becoming an obstacle. I'll look it up while you say what you loved. Brad Crowell 14:52  Yeah. So one thing I thought was important was this conversation of. Lesley Logan 14:58  Helen Mirren. Brad Crowell 14:59  That was really fast. And I'm very impressed. Brad Crowell 15:01  Do you know what I looked up? I said, older actress, stunning, fast and the furious. She's on top of the searches.Brad Crowell 15:12  I went to IMDb and I started with Fast and the Furious. I was like, there's so many actors. Lesley Logan 15:17  You gotta go with my, my way.Brad Crowell 15:23  Yeah, I just, I just thought I wanted to comment about what you had said about what your topic was, that we beat ourselves up over this idea that we're gonna like focusing on how we look is somehow wrong, and I, and I think that.Lesley Logan 15:39  But then also, everything your entire life is based on how you look. You know, like we're told not to focus on how we look. However, especially if you were raised as a woman in the church, how you look could make your brother stumble, so you better figure that out. But then also, you better be sexy for your husband, or he's gonna wander. And then, oh, if you look too old, you're not going to get the job, because they don't want an older woman, like, like, so there's all this stuff about how we're not supposed to care how we look, but actually, everything is about how we look. And if you're a dude, you just get fucking hotter as you get older. And it's really annoying.Brad Crowell 16:14  Well, I love that you took all the words right out of my mouth. So here's what I was going to say, is that I think it's important to that it when we are holding ourselves to this idea that feeling like we want to care about how we look is wrong, somehow. What she mentioned was confidence, and I liked that because I thought, Hey, why do we buy a nice shirt or buy some, you know, dress shoes, you know, for the office, because we like the way that we look in those and it gives us this idea that we got it together. And I don't know why we would think that it's okay to buy a nice blouse or blazer or shoes but not do the same thing for our face or our skincare or our weight or our working out, or whatever.Lesley Logan 17:14  The food we eat or the yeah, yeah, yeah, the things that we do to make ourselves feel good. I agree. I think that makes a lot of sense.Brad Crowell 17:22  Yeah. So, you know, anyway, my point is that it is I think it's okay. I think it's okay. Lesley Logan 17:31  I, here's the thing, I really have come to a place where it's like, if the thing that you do for yourself doesn't affect anyone else negatively, it's none of my fucking business.Brad Crowell 17:43  Okay, here's, here's, let's actually start with, because I'm logical, let's actually start with the definition of vanity. Lesley Logan 17:50  Okay, let's do that. Brad Crowell 17:52  Excessive pride. Well, excessive pride in or admiration of one's own appearance or achievements. Excessive pride, right?Lesley Logan 18:01  So walking around telling everyone I'm so fucking stunning.Brad Crowell 18:02  I'm so amazing. Look how awesome I am. Look how beautiful I am, right? That is vanity, but giving a shit about how you look is not vanity, right? That we've conflated this idea and we beat ourselves up. Lesley Logan 18:17  Brad, you're fucking brilliant. It's like the word selfish, like, how self-care has become selfish care, like the fact that you'd spend any extra amount of time thinking about yourself instead of your children, the people you work for, the people you do things for the people you love. Like, that's selfish. This is amazing. And I do love this because, okay, Amy Cuddy, whose TED Talk is where the title of this podcast came from, and if anyone knows her, I would love that interview. But she talked about how she does study about the power stance, the Wonder Woman stance, when you do it for five minutes, you actually appear and feel more confident in an interview. They did a literal scientific study, and they had people not stand in a power stance and sit slumped for five minutes, bad posture. And then go in, and then they ask them, how confident you feel. They ask the interviewers, how confident did they seem? Did they appear? You figuring out what rejuvenation and as a form of self-care that works for you, which is very different, that works for me, very different than anyone else, that is like staying in the power stance. It's an action. It's something that you're doing so that you can show up as your whole self and give the world like the version of you that that will make an impact. Yeah, that cannot be bad. I'm in. Brad Crowell 18:37  Yeah. And I think that, you know, when we have confidence, obviously it allows us to deliver our, you know, purpose in life better. It makes us enjoy what we're doing more. It definitely just changes the way we show up in our community and the way that we see ourselves. Right? So, you know, and the world sees that too. You know, when we put effort into ourselves, we show the world that we are valuable because we value ourselves. And I think that is also important, is that we that that belief in yourself, right, the knowledge that you are worthy, even though it seems internal, it is very visible to other people. When you know that you belong there to do the thing you know, or you believe you belong there, to do the thing other people perceive that they pick up on that. Lesley Logan 20:25  Well, yeah, and also, like, and just, I'm gonna tell you one of your points, she we're talking about this. We're talking about rejuvenation, way that looks natural and feels good, that builds confidence. We're not talking about like, go overdo it. We know the people who look like they're overdone, you know, like, you know, we're not talking about getting a new face like the Kardashian mom. We're talking about like, just like, and it's we're not talking about doing Botox or or surgery. It can be as simple as, like, massaging your face, or the type that money you spend on the moisturizer that makes you feel good, like, these are, we're talking non surgical approaches.Brad Crowell 21:03  Yeah, yeah. So, you know, I think when you are that, because we think that self-care equals vanity, that's where we're going wrong. But when we, when we can separate the two and understand that vanity is excessive. You know, celebration of your beauty or your achievements, that is obtuse, that is annoying, that is like, you don't want to listen, you don't want to be around somebody like that. We all know people like that. (inaudible)Lesley Logan 21:31  There's the song you're so vain, you probably think the song is about you. That is a definition.Brad Crowell 21:43  But when you care about yourself, you know it's okay to to put yourself first and make that part of your self-care routine and you know. Lesley Logan 21:53  Well, I also think you're I'm not (inaudible) you up. I'm so sorry. This is our ADHD problem. I think if something is keeping you from showing up and making the impact in your world, and it has to do with your looks. It is not vain or selfish to do something about it, if it's if, if that thing is keeping you from actually showing up as your whole self to make the impact you so desire to make, the world is missing out. Brad Crowell 22:18  Yeah. Actually, a great example would be braces, or Invisalign, or, you know, even, like surgical, surgery, surgery on your teeth. Like it comes across as, like a crazy expense sometimes, but, you know, night and day difference we, we've had, I've had a really close friend of mine growing up who had surgery in his 20s, and he smiles now, you know. And I remember seeing the difference in him because he never he was no longer judging himself, you know, (inaudible).Lesley Logan 22:19  I watched something where this girl, every time she'd smile, she or laugh out loud, put her hand in front of her mouth, because she doesn't want people to see her teeth and and then, through this one organization, they fixed them. And no one would say that she's being fucking vain. No one would. And because we're now.Brad Crowell 23:12  I mean that was surgery, that was surgery. This subject, we're not necessarily talking about it, but like Invisalign, or braces (inaudible).Lesley Logan 23:18  If it's going to make you smile a little brighter, going back to World Kindness Day and making people feel seen, I would hate for someone to not get the joy from your smile. When people smile at me, I'm like, Oh, hi. Like it just brightens your day, like it snaps you out of the whirlwind that's in your mind. And I just, I was really excited to have her on because I thought it was a really honest conversation about about inner beauty and what we what would make us feel good. And I just don't think there's anything wrong. And I think it's really important you hear this, there is nothing wrong with doing things for yourself that make you feel beautiful. And if you were ever told that focusing on what makes you feel beautiful is wrong. There's some deconstruction and some, I really, when we took my eyelashes, my fake eyelashes off, it was really hard for me. It was extremely hard. I didn't look the same anymore. I had to do a lot of self-talk, but I went to Sephora, literally the next day, I was like, you have to help me. I look like a molten like a mole rat. And that is an actual thing that exists. And yes, I did look like a mole rat, if you look it up, but I she taught me, okay, the best makeup starts with the best skincare for you, she said to me, and that's what Rachel's also talked about, the non surgical approaches. And then the second thing is, by that girl teaching me a couple tricks with makeup, I could show up and do my tour as my whole self in a non-distracted way. Because I was like, Oh, my God, people are gonna be staring at me. Talk about the braces and the weird things. I have no eyelashes. That is not what people are used to seeing. Okay? So, so I just think that, like, I if it's okay, I believe it, because I felt it. I've been there. I've been there when you're like, Oh my God, my face is numb from the dentist. Like, I don't even want to see me. If things like that are keeping you from showing up on a daily basis, you owe it to yourself and the people that you can impact on this world to find some way to fill that natural confidence by taking care of yourself. So that's what I think.Brad Crowell 25:24  All right, awesome. Well, I think we've, we've talked through that pretty exhaustively. Lesley Logan 25:28  I feel good about it. Brad Crowell 25:29  Yeah, stick around. We'll be right back. We have some more tips from Rachel and the Be It Action Items. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 25:36  Welcome back. Finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Rachel Varga? She said, Hey, high protein and creatine, right? High protein intake, one gram to one and a half grams of protein per pound of body weight. Now, you probably heard Lesley mention this a lot. She definitely is on board with this. She said. Lesley Logan 26:00  It's so hard. Just be kind to yourself. Brad Crowell 26:02  It's hard, but, but, you know, there's, there are ways, and actually, a lot of it had to do with changing the food that we're eating. For example, I had a high protein bagel today, you know. And you know, it was, I don't even know what it was, a lot of protein for a bagel. And so they're, you know, eggs, and all those extra beans.Lesley Logan 26:18  I, we're not sponsored by them. But hi, Owyn, they have a 32 gram protein shake, and it's only what you need. There's nothing weird about it, I'm sure. Like, look, the biohackers would not like that we're talking about processed food, but it takes time to switch your diet around. And if you're trying to do this, it does take time. So pick a meal a day and kind of work your way towards her. But I wanted to say, I fucking love that her, Be It Action Items have nothing to do with like, going to a med spa. Brad Crowell 26:45  Right, to do beauty stuff or whatever. Yeah, I mean, because it's just like your your your Sephora experience, she said the best way to fix your eyelashes is your skincare, right? So the in this case, she's Rachel's talking about high protein and creatine, because when you she started lifting heavy and focusing on high protein, it gave her more inner power activation, and that was great for her skin, right, So that's, that's, that's.Lesley Logan 27:14  And there's tons, ladies who are listening, we have a lot of perimenopausal women. There's a ton of research on doubling up on that creatine.Brad Crowell 27:20  Yeah. And she also talked about collagen, because collagen will also help your skin. If you're watching YouTube, you can laugh along with me.Lesley Logan 27:31  I've been doing collagen since, like, religiously, since 2016 because in 2015 I did a test, and the guy's like, you have no collagen. And then a year later I did the test, he's like, okay, so you you're off the charts in collagen. And I was like, is that a bad thing? Should I, like, slow it down? And he's like, I think you could be okay. And I have not slowed it down.Brad Crowell 27:48  So we've got a call to action for you here if you want to go to theschoolofradiance.com theschoolofradiance.com, you can use a promo code, LesleyLogan15, L-E-S-L-E-Y Logan15 for 15% off one of her membership. She said there's also a free 30-minute biohacking lesson you can get on there that has a checklist, her skincare checklist, and it's available on her site. Lesley Logan 28:11  And also, like, depending on where you live, the seasons change your skincare routine has to as well. Brad Crowell 28:16  Yeah. What about you? Lesley Logan 28:18  Okay, another interesting non-meds related, Be It Action Item, which is just why I love her, right? Like you don't like, it doesn't have to always be like, get this moisturizer. She recommended breath work, specifically during exercise, to keep cortisol down and remain in a parasympathetic rest and digest state, which helps slow aging and collagen loss. So this is what I love, because in the like, people are gonna try to sell you stuff all the time, and this is fucking free. So breathe in for four seconds, hold it for four seconds, exhale for four seconds, and do that four to five times, by the way, it's called Box breathing as well. And she explains that elevated cortisol results in a drop in estrogen. When estrogen falls, collagen, elastin fall too. So you want to breathe, because it's going to help slow your aging down, and that costs $0.Brad Crowell 29:14  Yeah, she said, you two were specifically talking about lifting in the gym. And she said the guys will try to spike their cortisol. And she said, I don't want to do that. Lesley Logan 29:23  Yeah, also, and I know there's and I being a woman today, it's like, what are we listening to? Look, keeping your cortisol down is always going to be a good thing, especially if you're in perimenopause or post it'll help your sleep, which is going to help you age better. But also, when you're doing Pilates, this is something that people struggle with. You got to breathe in and out through your nose, because that keeps you cool. It keeps you calm, it keeps you grounded, keeps that cortisol down, which helps you age slower. I love this. She's coming back because I was like, Oh my God, I didn't even get to all the tools. Like, do I need to buy this? Do you buy this? Do I need to buy this? And she is going to change her life with that. I'll let you know when the episode's coming out, of course, but until next time, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 30:08  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 30:08  Share this with a friend who needs to hear it, leave us a review. Tell Rachel Varga how these tips and tools helped you. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 30:13  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 30:13  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Let us know what you thought of this episode and any other comments you may have. This episode I'm speaking with Roz Van Auker, wife of Ken Van Auker and one of the founders of Balanced Body. The story begins with an unexpected twist of fate and the touch of skilled craftsmanship. Imagine Ken with hands expertly shaping the first Pilates machine, with Roz, his wife, orchestrating logistics while nurturing a young family. This episode invites you to witness the evolution of a humble family business into a global leader, with over 400 employees championing Pilates education worldwide through initiatives like Pilates on Tour. Roz and Ken embody the harmonious blend of family and business, weaving a tapestry of support and inclusivity that extends beyond blood relations to a vibrant community of Pilates professionals.Community is the heart that beats within Balanced Body, and this episode uncovers how the company stands as a connector in both personal and professional spheres. We explore the value of instilling generosity and community service in younger generations, fostering a culture where giving back becomes second nature. Discover how Balanced Body's dedication to building a supportive network has created unexpected avenues for growth, transforming the simple act of connecting studio owners and teachers into a business philosophy steeped in meaningful relationships and shared success.Listeners are invited to a nostalgic journey through the joys of hospitality, where simple gestures like hosting a dinner can spark genuine connections. Reflecting on the enduring marriage of Roz and Ken, the episode shares insights into the magic of understanding and mutual support that fuels family unity and business success. With laughter, shared experiences, and a supportive community, we reveal how these elements intertwine to craft a fulfilling life and a resilient family business. Join us in celebrating the power of family, community, and the joy of giving back, as we share stories that inspire and unite.To learn more about Balanced Body, visit the website: https://www.pilates.com/To learn more about the Capital Region Family Business Center visit our website HERE

Reading Luke 23:18-25 where Pilate tries to convince the people that Jesus is innocent, but he unjustly turns Jesus over to the people to be crucified anyway. Visit wwutt.com for all our videos!

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Trigger Warning: This episode contains conversations about verbal abuse, family dysfunction, and childhood trauma. Please listen with care. Healing relationships damaged by alcohol—where do you even begin? In this candid, hope-filled episode, Coach Soraya and Coach Zoe sit down with Sherri and Kevin to give listeners a front-row peek at how The Path works—and the breakthroughs that happen inside each day. Sherri shares her journey of leaving a verbally abusive marriage, breaking the after-work wine habit, and facing the truth about a new partner who encourages drinking. Kevin opens up about separation, sober dating, and the power of “playing it forward” when cravings strike, while also learning to reconnect with his inner child and rebuild self-trust. With gentle guidance and science-backed tools, both guests experience moments of clarity and hope, showing how compassion and curiosity make healing relationships damaged by alcohol possible. In Sherri's Session: How verbal abuse led to a reliance on alcohol to cope Realizing that "feeling good" while drinking is not the same as true happiness Finding the courage to say "no" to drinking and a toxic relationship Understanding that a negative feeling makes you want to drink Taking the first step in healing relationships damaged by alcohol And more topics… In Kevin's Session: Finding renewed confidence to quit after a purposeful "data point" Using your past experiences as a "reference library" to move forward Confronting childhood trauma and its connection to self-soothing with alcohol Earning your own trust back and holding space for little you Discussing the process of healing relationships damaged by alcohol And more… Soraya Odishoo is a compassionate Certified This Naked Mind Coach and certified Kula Yoga instructor, combining somatic healing and therapeutic models to support her clients' journeys to recovery. With a deep commitment to working with individuals who feel disconnected from their true selves, Soraya specializes in helping people break free from addictions to substances or behaviors that no longer serve them. Her heart-centered, trauma-informed approach is rooted in collaboration and trust, with a focus on accessibility for BIPOC and LGBTQIA++ communities. Soraya's passion lies in guiding others back to their personal power, allowing them to find peace, purpose, and lasting healing. Learn more about Coach Soraya: https://thisnakedmind.com/coach/soraya-arjan-odishoo-alpc/ Zoe Ewart is a Certified Naked Mind Senior Coach who brings her experience and understanding to help with the tricky parts of life's big changes. Her coaching gives you an enjoyable, light-hearted, and safe environment to effortlessly take back control of alcohol so you can feel better physically, mentally, and spiritually. Zoe taught Pilates for 15 years. She has four adult children and more animals than the Ark ever had. Learn more about Coach Zoe: ⁠https://thisnakedmind.com/coach/zoe-ewart/⁠ Episode links: nakedmindpath.com Ready to take the next step on your journey?  Visit https://learn.thisnakedmind.com/podcast-resources for free resources, programs, and more. Until next week, stay curious! Quince: For your next trip, treat yourself to the luxe upgrades you deserve from Quince. Go to Quince.com/naked for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Hungryroot: Get 40% off your first box + a free item for life at Hungryroot.com/nakedmind with code nakedmind Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial and start selling today at Shopify.com/mind Cozy Earth: Black Friday came early at Cozy Earth! Stack my code NAKEDMIND with their sitewide sale for up to 40% off.

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In this illuminating conversation of Be It Till You See It, aesthetic nurse and biohacker Rachel Varga joins Lesley Logan to discuss how to achieve lasting radiance by aligning health, mindset, and beauty. She shares how lowering inflammation, managing stress, and purifying your environment can help you look and feel your best—proving that confidence and feeling at peace are the real anti-aging secrets.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Rachel's nursing career evolved into a holistic approach to beauty and biohacking.The science behind lowering inflammation to boost vitality and radiance.Why redefining vanity as self-respect empowers confidence and self-care.Everyday habits that support graceful aging through stress management and sleep.How cultivating peace and integrity supports inner and outer radiance.Episode References/Links:The School of Radiance Website - theschoolofradiance.comPromo Code: LesleyLogan15 for 15% off one-on-one sessions, tutorial, and membershipSchool of Radiance Podcast - https://www.theschoolofradiance.com/podcastsInstagram: @RachelVargaOfficial - https://www.instagram.com/rachelvargaofficialGuest Bio:Rachel Varga, BSN, RN, CANS, is a Double Board Certified Aesthetic Nurse Specialist. Since 2011, Rachel has been offering medical aesthetic rejuvenation in the specialty of Oculoplastics and is known for providing a natural and healthy-looking transformation and educating through her show "The School of Radiance" podcast. She has performed over 20,000 rejuvenation procedures and is also a trainer for other practitioners on rejuvenation procedures including medical grade skin care, laser skin rejuvenation, injectables including neuromodulators and dermal fillers, and slowing aging in general. Rachel is passionate about delivering the highest standard of care, with a focus on what the patient's specific rejuvenation goals are, and a tailored approach to suit their needs, values, and lifestyle. She has published multiple research articles on rejuvenation protocols for the eyelids, jawline, and overall skin health transformation. Rachel is known for her gentle touch, natural-looking results, and making her patients feel comfortable, and at ease with her caring bedside manner that originated in pediatric nursing before beginning her career in medical aesthetics in 2011. She will guide you in creating your customized rejuvenation plan and skincare routine to achieve your goals through one-on-one sessions, expert 7-week seasonal skincare tutorials, and year-long membership for the deeper layers of being beautifully radiant at TheSchoolofRadiance.com. Rachel Varga is one of the first to blend Western approaches to skin care and rejuvenation, functional insights, and biohacking optimization strategies. 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And the more radiant we are, the more high vibe we are, the more we can get what we desire out of life, in both our personal and professional lives, and be great people, because our bodies are operating properly.Lesley Logan 0:32  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:11  Hi, Be It babe. Okay, this is gonna be a really fun conversation. I wanted to have this conversation for a while, and it's really like, I'm intrigued by all this, right? I want to, I want to actually look and feel good for as long as possible, but not in like, a crazy, like, change how I look dramatic way, but like, as in a no, this is like, I want to look like me. And so when I met our guest today, because I was on her amazing podcast, Rachel Varga, she's the host of the School of Radiance, and I was like, oh, I vibe with this person. I really like what they're saying. It's intelligent. It's from a place of research and science and methodologies, and she is so knowledgeable about biohacking and things we can do when it comes to med spas and what we're doing with to support ourselves and how we feel and how we look, and then we go on a wide range of topics. We don't hit everything I want to talk about, so I'm going to have to do this again. But I really think you're going to, one, learn a ton and have a lot of permission get granted, because maybe it's not something you have to do to you, maybe it's something you would get to do around you, or maybe it's about changing something in your environment, right? So now I'm going to let Rachel Varga give you all of her amazing wisdom. Lesley Logan 2:26  All right, Be It babe, this conversation is one I've been really wanting to have, but it had to be with a special person, and so I've been waiting the 500 plus episodes to find the person who we can have a conversation about radiance and how we how our how we can age the way we want to, and look good doing it without feeling like we're being vain or going too far. And so Rachel Varga is our guest today. Rachel, can you tell, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at? Rachel Varga 2:51  Yes, Lesley, so great to be here, and we had a fantastic interview on my show recently, the School of Radiance podcast. And, so technically, I'm a nurse, and I've been an esthetics nurse since 2011 so I've been in the game for the rejuvenation side of things for a while. Been in that game, published research papers. You can look my name up on PubMed, Rachel Varga, you'll see my eye rejuvenation papers, jawline rejuvenation papers. And then I also teach other doctors and nurses internationally how to do rejuvenation from the non surgical side of things that like injectables. And I know we're going to talk a little bit about that, what we can do that's cleaner options, what's actually going to work and give us the results that we desire. And so I love to teach, and I love to talk about what we can actually do at home. So on this podcast, we'll talk about the lifestyle side of things, and kind of delineate what we can do at home and then what's available in the clinic. But I take this approach of longer lasting beauty through biohacking, because when we reduce inflammation and toxins on all fronts, we then set our body up for success, for being our most radiant versions. And the more radiant we are, the more high vibe we are, the more we can get what we desire out of life, in both our personal and professional lives, and be great people, because our bodies are operating properly.Lesley Logan 4:23  I love this because I love that you can they it's almost like a there's a few different prongs. So if you're someone who's like, I don't want to do surgery, I don't want to do the injectables like people start to look like cat ladies at some point. And I'm sure that's not all injectables do that. I'm sure there's a point which one could stop. But the idea that we there's things we could do at home, it sounds why wouldn't you, like, Why? Why wouldn't you want to do something at home? So before we get into that, though, I do want to kind of know, like, did you always want to get into esthetics? Was this something that you could wear, like, interested as a kid? Like, were you doing makeup? Like, how? Like, what was the journey that got you here?Rachel Varga 4:59  Yeah. Okay, well, practically speaking, my mom's an RN, and I saw how hard she worked, but I also saw that it was a great job. It's a great way to be in that nurturing, supportive, healthy role in the family. It's like something happens to the kiddos, like you know what's going on, or your partner or yourself. It's just great knowledge to have from a nursing perspective for yourself and those you love. My father's are carpenter and so I always had this eye for, oh, that bumper is a little not so straight, or that picture is a little canted. So I had this eye for symmetry and proportions from that, and then also the health side of things. But I saw my mother really struggle as a night nurse. And she did night nursing, so shift work, it's just brutal in extended care for her pretty well entire career, she got breast cancer. She was, at one point, weighed 220 pounds. So she was the type of woman, great woman over gave, did the shift work. So I learned early in my career that I didn't want to be that kind of nurse. And did Pediatric Nursing, pediatric ICU care for a couple years. And during that time in my nursing education, I'd had a few rejuvenation procedures myself too, both surgically and non surgically, and to myself, the aftercare information like the pre post care wasn't great, and for me, going through nursing training, I was obviously watching all the vlogs online. There aren't really a lot of professionals actually talking about this stuff, and I think it's kind of interesting, and people want to know how to get the most out of what they're investing in in the clinic, and, of course, at home, and how to recover before and after non surgical or non surgical rejuvenation options. And thought I wanted to be a doctor. So did all the med school prerequisites, chem, Organic Chem, biochem. And while I was doing prerequisites and applying to med school, which I did for one year, I got a job as an esthetics nurse, did my injectable training, started in ocular plastics in 2011 and just loved the field. I loved the pace. The hours were great, and I would get access to anything and everything. Then something happened. I met my good friend Dave Asprey. Actually helped get his face ready for superhuman so when you look at that book cover, that's my work. Oh, what's this biohacking stuff? This is pretty cool. Started to do some of it myself, cold plunging, intermittent fasting, more protein, adding antioxidants, amino acids, all sorts of great stuff that's in the biohacking world, red light therapy. And then I was in two car crashes. I had to really lean into the biohacking and recovery side of things and supplementation so that I wasn't hurting all the time, and so that I would recover faster. And partner has been a pro athlete as well, so very in tune with the athletic recovery side of things too. Then something interesting happened. The better I cared for myself from an inflammation perspective, I didn't need as much rejuvenation. Scars were fading after just a couple of days post breakout, instead of for months, and I'd have to laser that redness away. I didn't need to do neuromodulators every three months, I would actually go anywhere from like, a year to a year and a half in between.Lesley Logan 8:45  For the people who are like, what's a neuromodulator,Rachel Varga 8:49  The brand names that you probably know about are Botox, Xeomin, Dysport, Nuceiva, Jeuveau. There's always new ones growing up. So the technical term for those is neuromodulators. And then I also started to notice, oh, wow, I'm not burning in the sun in 10 minutes anymore. These deoxidants, this reducing inflammation, is actually allowing me to go outside and enjoy my life more. And I as a researcher, put together a paper for the biohacking community a couple years ago. What are some of the biohacks that actually can support slowing aging in sort of like a methodical framework, kind of way, because there's so many bright, shiny objects in the in the biohacking and wellness space, like, what actually should we start with?Lesley Logan 9:42  This is insane. So this journey that you went on, like, first of all, you met the person. Like, yeah, you were like, you just met them. And then you needed what they had. Like, thank goodness you met them, because you put, who knows how long would have taken you to stumble upon biohacking in that way. And then it got you to see how it worked on the things that you already do. I can it's interesting to me because, like, I think some people in your field would be like, what is the need for me if I could just biohack my way to blemish-free skin that can be out in the sun, you know what I mean. But obviously, like, there's, there's kind of a place for everything. You know, there's also like, what works for you and what helps with what you need. And so I love the idea for those at home who are like, well, what are some like, what are like? Maybe they could Google what an antioxidant is. But like, what are some things that they should be thinking about when it comes to inflammation and things that can affect how they look? Because I think sometimes people go, Oh, I'm just older. And we were taught like, Oh, you're 40, so now you're 50. Like, these things happen. But from what I understand in biohacking, you can actually do a whole lot. It's not about the age, it's kind of about what you're eating and what you're doing.Rachel Varga 10:54  Yeah, you could actually test instead of guess what your biological age is. And I do this usually about once a year, and my biological age, last time I tested it was nine years younger than my chronological age. So doing something right. Lesley Logan 11:11  I love that. Rachel Varga 11:14  When I started to speak on the anti aging, the functional, integrative and wellness sides of things, being an aesthetic nurse, like a traditionally trained nurse, and then in the specialty of aesthetic medicine, I was kind of the odd one out, a little bit misunderstood, especially in the rare community that I'm in, people didn't really get it. It's more like a California and Florida kind of thing, where people in there, in those states in particular, really big into anti aging medicine, and so that was a bit tough for me. But you know what, some of us were just pioneers in the space. And Dave is more of a disruptor, and I'm more of like an encourager. If I can do it, you can do it too. Lesley Logan 11:59  Yeah. And I think, like, you know, the I, what a great place where you can go, okay, here are your options. We can do these things, and here's how often you'd have to do them, and we can absolutely do them, or we can do this thing, and then this is how often, or you could also do this at home. And then it would make whatever we're doing here would support that, or it would reduce your need for that, is that what I'm hearing, like, the biohacking, like, really supports what you do?Rachel Varga 12:26  Bingo. So for me to speak on things, because I am a traditionally trained RN, I have to be able to speak on things that are published in the literature. There wasn't really anything, and I knew this worked. I would see it in my before and after photos. See, you know, 70 to 90 year olds looking fantastic, and they barely need anything. They were aging better. So the jawline paper that I wrote, I basically put in that paper an algorithm for rejuvenation, starting with skin care, then getting into maybe at home peels and at home dermarolling, doing some in-clinic lasers for reds, browns and collagen, you know, resurfacing pore size, polishing the skin, and then the non surgical injectables. So say you guys all probably hear the word Botox, so neuromodulators and fillers and then surgery. So to start from a space of least invasive, you know, do some things, see if you're happy with those results, you might not need the surgery, but surgery definitely does have a place, coming from ocular plastic surgery for the eyelids. And so I wrote a paper on that, basically an algorithm do least invasive to most invasive, and then the Oxidative Stress Status and Its Impacts on Skin Aging paper that was more like a framework of what's the lifestyle stuff that we can do to actually clean up and purify our environment by purifying our air, water, lighting, electromagnetics, testing, instead of guessing the foods that we're eating and then getting into detoxing. And when you do all those things, you should actually be able to get better results from your treatments. And if you go on message boards for people that have issues after injectables or lasers, chances are there was a degree of autoimmune conditions running in the background, or their toxic bucket was really full. They had rejuvenation bucket tipped over, and they had a manifestation of some underlying things that were happening. And then also, during the process of writing those papers, I came across some data. This is why it's not a nice to do. It's a need to do, to look after yourself, that autoimmune conditions, or, more precisely, deaths of unknown causes, which I reached back to the source of you know, what does this category actually mean, autoimmune condition or someone passing away before diagnosis, it actually doubled in 2019 compared to the data six years earlier in Canada, this is Canadian information, and then it doubled again in 2021. So autoimmune stuff for skin is like, eczema, psoriasis, those are typically the skin stuff that we see. Lesley Logan 15:25  It's interesting that you brought that up because it is like, I think people are like, there's so many people with autoimmune it's like, well, now that we know what to test for. The thing about tests, that's the thing, when we it was all, there, it has probably been there for a really long time. The doubling in such a short period of time is scary, but also it, you know, if the tests weren't right arranging or the doctors don't know to test for these things. But I love that you brought that. I like how you bring that up. It's like if you had stuff run in the background, if you were already inflamed, and then you do something that can add to that, like, it is just like the needle that broke the haystack. And so then the things get the blame when it's a whole host of things that are going on. And so I think this is really cool. You know it's and I don't want to be ignorant, so I think it's really, to me, what I find interesting is that, like, I would never have associated a biohacker with someone who would also be doing any of these treatments. Like I would, you know what I mean? Like, I think people think you're either nothing goes in your body except for these things, or you're, like, whatever, It's a free rein, I can do whatever I want. And so to find someone who sits in the middle, I actually think it gives people a lot more permission. And I actually one of the things I want to talk with you about is, like, just permission, like, I think a lot of people feel bad or feel embarrassed or feel like they shouldn't talk about that they want to make any changes to how they look, because we do live in a place now where, thankfully, people are more accepting and people have been taught to not hate their bodies like we should love our bodies. In fact, your body is listening to you. So part of biohacking would actually be to not talk about the things you don't like about your body because your body's listening. But how can we think about like is it vain for us to want to want to change things on our face, or to want to look a little younger, to want to look a little fresher? Is that? Is that a bad thing? Like, should we not be wanting to change these things? We just be happy with how we look?Rachel Varga 17:11  I think that there's a similarity here with this concept of imposter syndrome. Everyone who starts to do something new is like, Oh my gosh. I don't know of like, Can I do this? Am I gonna get laughed at? I think it's that's just as common as the shadow side of beauty, which is, is this vain? Am I doing something that's selfish to care for myself? One of the reframes that I love to talk about is self-care, self-love. I get so many sweet downloads when I'm doing my skincare, I'm blow drying my hair, I'm doing my beautification, my makeup, putting on a cute outfit, looking at myself in the mirror, it's like, Oh, wow. I had three hours of sleep last night. How the heck do I look this good? Well, there's some biohacks that I did to hack a bad sleep and why I had a bad sleep, which is hilarious. So we can definitely talk about that. But the vanity component is essentially the shadow side of beauty and radiance at its core. So I love to investigate the psychological, the energetic things behind everything as well, because everything is energy. And we're seeing a shift now, though. In about 2018, a number of my clients started to ask me, Rachel, what can I do for healthier skin I want to improve my skin health. So I really started to notice the shift. And then now fast forward to the year that we are in now, every med spa, well, the ones that are, you know, up with the current times, are doing things like NAD infusions, they're offering weight loss, they're offering hormone support, and all of these different things that we're now seeing a really exciting time in the med spa industry, the functional space, integrative and biohacking space, coming together. It's almost like this bifurcation point a couple years ago, but I did see the writings on the wall back in about 2018 that this was going to happen, and now this is what the most notable med spas in the world are doing, is they're incorporating all these things because people want to go to a one-stop shop and not necessarily just look at rejuvenation as being vain, but a form of self-care. They're doing other things as well that they're investing time and energy in, or they might have a health spending account that makes them feel better, because when you feel better, you look better, and when you look better, you feel better. So what I like to suggest, if someone is really grappling with, okay, money's tight or I feel vain about doing this, feel like that money should go to my kids or whatever. But if something's bothering you for a while, say, for example, lines between the brows, or lines to the forehead, or hooded upper eyelids, lower eye bags, melasma, pigmentation, red acne scars, large pores, acne scarring, losing sharpness to the jaw, lines, jowls, fullness to the neck, the list goes on. But if something is really bothering you and you're looking at yourself in the mirror, be like, I really love to do something about that, because it's the one thing that kind of bugs me. I think that the benefit of knowing that, hey, there are some really great health non surgical, or surgical things that we can do to actually support those things. But my angle is, okay, what's the least toxic thing that we can do to give the best results? What is going to give the most long term benefits? So that's why sometimes surgery, like eyelid surgery, is one of the most common surgeries performed to remove excess eyelid tissue. That's actually probably even going to cost less money than trying to do all these other non surgical things, and you have a longer result. So it just depends on everybody's situation. But the vanity thing is something I think every single person grapples with, if they're completely honest with themselves, and then they do it. They do their rejuvenation, they bump up their at home skincare routine, they purify their environment, like, Oh, I feel better. I'm gonna keep doing this, because it's something I do for myself, kind of like getting your (inaudible) you always feel so much better after you have, you know, fresh highlights or whatever. Lesley Logan 21:36  Yeah, yeah. Well, I think, like, there's a difference between doing something because you think it's going to get you people's reaction from people, and doing something for yourself. You know, I think if you are do making changes to yourself, because for other people, that would be a problem, but if you're doing it for yourself, like you said, you don't like the way your pores are. I have my mom, she has talked about the eyelid surgery, and I saw her recently in person. I was like, Oh, poor thing. I don't know. Can you see? Get like, you know, like, and that's not a vain thing. It's also like a necessity, necessity thing, but also like in being it till you see it, some of these things are taking up so much brain space that they're holding us back from coming out and showing people who we are like, if you're not putting yourself out there because you have a scar or you have you don't like the way something looks, that that does bother me, because it does mean that the world is missing out on what your gift is. You know, there are people that you're the only person who can do what you do, and if you're hiding yourself for whatever reason, then that is a bummer, because those people miss out on it and they end up getting swindled by somebody else. So I, I'm of the place, like, if it's for you and it's going to help you show up as the best version of yourself, like, you know, you really do have to look, look into that. But I also love your approach of, like, what's the least invasive, least toxic, most long lasting. And I think if we, I think if we go with that approach, as opposed to quick fixes, then we all, and that goes for everything, not just even for the things you do with your face.Rachel Varga 23:11  100% Oh, you touched on so many beautiful things. So we're gonna back this, because there's some nuggets here for everybody. What happens when you go into the wild, you know, if you're, if you're anything like me, you're working from home, you're going to the gym, you're going to the grocery store, going to church, you know, some work in social events, but that's kind of what the lifestyle looks like. But when we and sometimes I want speeches, and that's super fun, I get all glammed up when you go out into the wild and you see two kinds of people, you see the one person that I just have my hair and, like, a cute little dancer's button I got my workout outfit on. You would love it. It's, like, very Pilates appropriate. Lesley Logan 23:56  I saw it when you (inaudible) I was like, that's so cute. I need a little shawl for my my one my jumpsuit.Rachel Varga 24:02  Oh and I love my body, and I work hard. I lift weights, work on the flexibility, stability, cardio, strength, all those things. I feel fantastic because it brings me in my body as well. W e're very grounding at the end of the day, when you see that individual that they got a little bit of makeup on, they brush their hair, they don something cute, even if it's a little bun, and they have a smile, and they're bright, and they're connecting. Compared to the other person that's just schlepping it. They got their PJ pants on or their sweat pants, they're not put together at all, and they just look like they legitimately rolled out of bed. It's like, okay, something's going on with that person. Oh, this person's really showing up for themselves. They're, you know, putting effort into their appearance. What that actually communicates when you show the world that you're valuable because you value yourself, that's powerful. And if you're showing the world that you just rolled out of bed, your life's a mess, people aren't actually going to value you in the same way. I know that sounds really brutal, but you will be more valued in your relationships. In the professional space, you'll have better relationships. You'll probably be able to make more money, because there's also research to show that people actually who care for themselves the way that they look, earn higher income. But the cool part here that you touched on for you know, reactions for other people is it for yourself. I've seen that where ladies have come to me and their boyfriends in the waiting room and they say, I want to get my lips done. And their lips are already like fantasy lips, if you know what I mean. And I just say to them, no, that's gonna go. If I do anymore, it's gonna really put your lips out of the ideal ratios that actually creates beautiful lips. So you're not a candidate for this treatment. Obviously, there's some body dysmorphia that can have too. However, when we do rejuvenation in a way that looks natural, feels good for us. You know, the body's just like, yes, I want to do this. But thinking about it for a while, it helps to build confidence. Something very interesting about confidence, actually, is that the more confident we are, the better able we're going to be in showing up and building our community. And community is a deep survival need. We're not meant to go through life on our own. We're not meant to over give. We're meant to be supported and receive from those around us, and obviously have it be reciprocated. But the there's the value component, there's the confidence component, there's the community component as well. So there's a lot of really beautiful things actually, about beauty and what it does to our lives.Lesley Logan 27:00  Yeah, and I do, I find it's like, so I used to work at a studio when I lived in L.A., I'd have to, like, leave the house and obviously, how I run and how I shop at the gym, different things, but anything before 7 a.m. that's what different. But when I would go to my studio, I would get dressed to work, go to work, I would teach the whole thing. When I started working from home, I noticed like, oh, I'm not in front of the camera today, so I would just kind of like, still be in the same clothes I did my walk and my workout in, and I was like, starting to slowly feel down about myself and having to give myself more pep talks. And I was doing my fake eyelashes, and they kept getting bigger and wrong, and I kept giving them feedback. And I was like, I don't really like how this is looking. So then I got rid of the fake eyelashes, and now I'm like, well, now I'm a bald eagle, and now I think I'm over at and and I was like, hold on. I also could learn how to do makeup for my natural lashes, and I could get dressed each day, like, how would if I got dressed each day? And what I realized is, by using the clothes in my closet and getting dressed and having a routine of putting my makeup on and and things like that. All those things actually made me feel better. So that whole little haze that, like cloud that was kind of like following around, kind of like an oppression commercial. I don't know if you havethem in Canada, but we have them here, where they're, like, trying to sell you like this cloud that just like hovers over this girl as she walks around, the cloud's gone. I was like, oh, over time, I slowly became used to not doing these things that felt like a waste of time or like not a big deal who's seeing me, and the more I actually spent time with myself. It's not to go back to the vanity topic, It's not vain. It actually just made it easier for me to show up as myself and put myself out there. Because I wasn't going, Oh God, my hair is a mess. Like, like, I, like, got ready for the day, just like, as if I went out into the world to go to work. And so I would say, like, it's really easy for us to go, oh, the world expects us to look a certain way. And really, I actually think the world is quite obsessed with people who are confidently walking in front of them, people who are confidently walking in a room like it. Actually, I'm always amazed, like the people who are famous or infamous and things like that, like some of them, I would never consider like a natural form of beauty, but people are excited about them because they're so calm they walk in, they have their head held high. And so I think if we just go back to like, what are you doing for yourself to help you show up to be the person you want to be, like, those things can't be wrong.Rachel Varga 29:25  Very well said, the, I love this show so much. I love connecting with you, Lesley, I think you're fantastic. You're hitting the nail on the head of, like, really deep topics around beauty and rejuvenation and not enough people are kind of talking about this stuff, the concept of feeling down and self-talk. Let's break that down for a second. A lot of us say, Oh, my fine lines and wrinkles, or, you know, my elevens, or my acne scars, or from an injury perspective, because a lot of you listening are ahletic and sometimes injuries can happen when you're doing new things and pushing your limits and building your strength and your resilience and your readiness and adaptability and all those good things. So instead of saying my whiplash, I detach from it, and I don't say my I say, oh, you know, I'm experiencing this or, Oh, I have a blemish, but I'm not reinforcing it into my identity, because a lot of people have these things that they reinforce into their identity, and then it's like, stuck in their field, if you will. Now we're gonna go just a little bit woo.Lesley Logan 30:39  Oh, you know, we used to only be a one woo show, and considering where the world is right now, Brad and I have gone two woos. We're woo woo in it.Rachel Varga 30:50  Yeah, very much grounded in the 3d science, I published papers. I just the other day, was teaching 60 doctors in Vancouver. Super fun. I just can't help but notice this group of patients that I observed in my career. This is why I talk about radiance, men and women aged 60 to 90 that had never done any rejuvenation. They would come to see me, either on a video call like this, or in the clinic, and I would look at them and be like, Wow, you look fantastic. Like, yeah, you know a couple of things like, bother me. I'd love to do something about it, but it was just how they carried themselves. So I started to kind of unpack this. What is this? What is this that I'm noticing it's like this inner glow, this inner vibration, and what are the components in their life that are contributing to that, which you can ground to the key determinants of health, which are recognized globally as being important factors to determining how healthy you're probably going to be depending on the environment around you. They had a certain vibe to them. Their skin shown differently. Their voice was different. They were very present. They had a family life, they had a spiritual practice. They had hobbies, they had a community. So I coined this radiance, and then I started to dive into some Ayurvedic texts, and came across the definition of radiance, which I think is one of the best definitions of that word that I've ever come across. It's the electromagnetic projection of all of your body systems. The radiant body is the 10th body, and then we have our body, mind, spirit, energy. There's some other bodies in there, but the radiant body is basically that electromagnetic projection of you and a reflection of how all your operating systems are running into the world. And when you begin to hone and cultivate this radiant energy, it's kind of like you become a queen, and you enter a room and everybody notices you for all the right reasons, you become a magnet. And with that, when you step into that very powerful, radiant, queen, feminine and (inaudible) energy, you also repel vibes of certain people that aren't going to be in your highest it's like you're a magnet, but you're also very attractive.Lesley Logan 33:22  Yeah, just like magnets also repel the other side. Rachel Varga 33:25  Exactly. Yes. So magnetic to the right people, the right situations, the right opportunities, and telling yourself (inaudible) oh, you know, there's great things coming just around the corner that are better than I even imagined. And I say that all the time, and it happens all the time. So this becomes you. You become like this force. And one of the most cool things about this as a woman is you get respected, and you are revered by men, not just idolized for looking a certain way, but actually respected and revered, and this is getting into some of the more powerful layers of beauty and radiance. And what you mentioned with your self talk, you probably felt some guilt and shame, right? And those are the lowest vibrations we can possibly sit in. The highest ones are peace love, joy, then there's pre enlightenment, then there's enlightenment. So peace, love, joy, channel your inner (inaudible) that is actually setting the stage for all of your cells and inner machinery and operating systems and field, the human biofield, is an emerging body of science to shine brighter, to slow aging, to feel better, to look better.Lesley Logan 34:47  I love this, and I really do believe in it, because there was years ago I listened to a podcast where they said your cells are listening to you, and how you talk about yourself is what you produce. So if you, going back to your like, my scars, my this, it's so important that you do, you don't hold on to those things, because the body is listening and like they actually did some scientific studies, multiple ones. One of them was they took these people, they blindfolded them, they set them in a chair. They were in a room where they could hear a fire burning, right? And they could hear this hot and they could hear like this, when you put, like, water goes right, that whole thing. And they're like, okay, we're gonna take this (inaudible) and we're gonna brand you, right? And these people are like, Oh my God, they're telling, they're describing what the branding mark is going to be. All these things. I don't even know how they clear this, because it sounds like trauma and torture and all the things, however they did it. And what they would do is they would like make the sound, and then they touch the person with a pen, a pen, and the person develop the welt in the shape of the description of what the branding was going to be. Right? Like, now, whether it lasts or not, wasn't part of the thing, but like they the body was like, so prepared for what it was told it was going to become. And another doctor was trying to figure out if it was a scraping of the knee or the drain of the knee that actually was healing these knee issues. So of course, he has to take three groups of people, one where nothing happens, one where they scrape and one where they drain, and then compare the three and the people who had nothing they were just put into they were put under anesthesia. They played, they played a video of a knee surgery happening so that they would hear in their subconscious they were sent to do all the same post surgical protocol as everyone else. They had the same results as the people who had had surgery, because they told themselves, I had surgery, my knee is fixed, and their body did these things. And so I became so conscious of like, what are we actually talking to ourselves about? Because before we go into all the things we could do to change our bodies, before we go into the biohacking foods, and then what type of treatments we could do, how you're talking to yourself, is literally free. It's a, it's a, it's a free thing you can change. It costs nothing.Rachel Varga 37:01  when you think of a monk, what are they doing all the time? Lesley Logan 37:03  Oh, we get to see them in Cambodia all the time. They are meditating and they're praying. They give blessings. That's what they're doing, just sitting there meditating.Rachel Varga 37:15  And you said something very profound, giving. Lesley Logan 37:19  Blessings. Rachel Varga 37:23  Who you are, depending on what really your reason is for being here. For mine, it's really to activate and initiate men and women around me to be their best versions. I'm very clear on that. So for me and my presence, that's how I serve. That's how I offer. It's how can we be in this state where we engage with others and we brighten their day, we say something kind to them, the way that we move through life is like an offering and a blessing. We first need to fill our cup first, though, that's very important. One of the things that you can channel next time you're in your Pilates or a heavy lifting situation, I do this all the time at the gym. I actually do breath work because for activity as women, especially if you're around that pre perimenopausal, perimenopausal, menopausal and postmenopausal, the body's going through transmissions, and what breaks down collagen and elastin quickly is elevated cortisol, which results in a drop of estrogen. When estrogen falls, collagen, elastin, fall too the more at peace you are, the more in that parasympathetic state you are, the less you're in the sympathetic state with high cortisol, adrenaline, you're going to age slower. You're going to have a slowness of the collagen elastic breakdown. And you could actually just do things to stimulate it, right? Like good skincare, sunscreen on the high real estate areas, mineral only at home, dermarolling, in clinic, lasers to get that collagen back up. Consuming collagen is also great. 10 to 12 grams a day is what's in the literature to actually create those visible skin changes in a month. But what I do when I work out is something hilarious, and I actually did bench press with the bodybuilder gym (inaudible) crew at the gym. I was included. They respect me. They revere me. They see my dedication and hard work. So, you know, I was right there with them get it spotted and encouraged, and here I am elevating their presence as well. But when I work out, and I was actually sharing this with one of the bodybuilders, because they'll do like smelling salts to get them in the sympathetic state, which could be good for the masculine, but for the feminine, we don't want that. We want to keep that cortisol down, what I do, actually, between sets of working out, is go right into parasympathetic breathing. Breathe in for four seconds, hold it for four seconds, exhale for four seconds. And you can do this, do like four to five cycles of that. You can drop into that at any point during the day when you get some news of a task that you need to do. I run like 13 businesses. So there's always, you know, these kind of small fires, and I have to figure out, like, who to delegate what I need to do, blah, blah, blah. But there's always something. So no matter what, I just always drop into that. Have those dates, have that honey, so I have that glycogen. Take those adaptogens to support the adrenals. Do the self care. But the biggest thing, I think, for beauty and slowing aging is, what do you think creates peace?Lesley Logan 41:05  What do I think creates peace? In someone's life?Rachel Varga 41:07  Yeah, what do you think creates peace in someone's life? Lesley Logan 41:10  Oh, my gosh. Well, I don't, to be honest, my mind is (inaudible) a few places. One, good sleep, that helps with peace. Two, not taking things personally, that could take, I think that could cover a lot of things. Maybe the whole four agreements would create peace and then self love.Rachel Varga 41:29  That's beautiful. What actually builds our confidence when you make a decision and we're happy with those decisions that we're making, or making them out of integrity. People who make really bad decisions, they have to live with guilt and shame, and they have terrible sleep. They're tossing and turning, and they got night sweats. All sorts of stuff goes on in someone's nervous system when they constantly have that guilt and shame, operating in the background. Ask for forgiveness, but move towards operating in integrity in every single thing that you do, you will have more peace because you're making better decisions. I wouldn't I can't picture a monk acting out of integrity, right? That's like against their code. So to have that, I just think it's gorgeous. Not taking things personally is also great. So you're recognizing that not everybody is taking as good care of you. You might have different values or lifestyles or what's important to you. So not taking things personally and just kind of witnessing that everyone's on their own journey, and just let go, but just have that knowing that the decisions you're making are out of integrity, and self love is such a beautiful component to that as well because you're telling your body when you're doing your skincare in the am and pm, you're washing your face, you're putting great things on that aren't toxic, and you're doing a lot of the personal development stuff as well, to be the best human that you can be, to be the best woman partner that success in your career, and just be a light in the world and think that and bring beauty. Literally, I've done this. I've just had a terrible day, something's going on, and I put on a cute outfit, do my hair and makeup, and I go engage with someone. They're like, Wow, you look so pretty today. It was like, it brightens my day. My beauty brightened their day. And then send and receive. I give them a compliment of something that I see is beautiful in them, too.Lesley Logan 43:35  Yeah, oh my gosh. You know, so many good things. And there was like five, five other things I wanted to get to in today's episodes. We're just gonna have to have you back. We're just gonna have to have you back because I was like, really hoping we could talk about, like, is Gua Sha really working? What are the things I should be doing? So we're just gonna have to do this again, and we're gonna take a brief break and find out how people can find you, follow you, work with you. And you already gave us some good stuff, but some Be It Action Items. Lesley Logan 43:58  All right, Rachel, where do they hang out? Where do you hang out? Where can people like stalk you in the best way, get more information, work with you, talk with you, where can we send them?Rachel Varga 44:08  Absolutely, I hang out on Instagram. I love to engage with those who are you? They say yes to themselves. They know they're worth it, and they're curious about some of the different options I share a ton of very entertaining education, like, I shared some sleep stuff like, why (inaudible) sleeps because I took creatine too late after my workout. But how did I hack that not so great sleep? I took a little bit more in the next day because it fires up your ATP, anyways, funny stuff like that. As a biohacker and also in the med spa space is over @RachelVargaOfficial, that's my Instagram handle. And then the podcast, really great show, the School of Radiance podcast. And then theschoolofradiance.com is my website, where you can book a one-on-one. You can join my seasonal skin tutorials, where I actually show you how to do Gua Sha, do your skincare, your makeup, your dermarolling peels, retinols, what rejuvenation is great to do that time of year, so basic and advanced stuff over six weeks, great. Not a YouTube tutorial. It's way better. Lesley Logan 45:13  I'm already in. I'm like, hold on, I need to. Rachel Varga 45:15  Super fun, super fun, right? And then the membership is more of that high level. How do we actually activate this radiance and stuff so we can enjoy our lives better and make more money in the process? Those are the two key metrics you're gonna get benefits from.Lesley Logan 45:30  Amazing. You guys, we have a promo code for you in the show notes and everything, so make sure that you check that out. I already have an appointment booked because I am really excited. And it's, again, not because of it's like, oh, I'm trying to be vain. I'm trying to be something that the world wants. No, it's so that when I look in the mirror, I feel awesome about myself, and I can show up more and more and do all the things. And so I'm just so grateful that our paths crossed. You have given us a lot of great tips. Ladies, get on the creatine. Okay, it's really amazing. There's tons of research. Oh yeah, muscles also, just like, apparently, tons of work on the Alzheimer space, which I'm very excited about. Thank God I've been doing creatine for years. But bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps our listeners can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Rachel Varga 46:16  Yeah, the skincare checklist, actually, over at theschoolofradiance.com when you sign up for my newsletter, I have a free 30 minute biohacking lesson too, and use promo code LesleyLogan15 for 15% off of your one-on-one here with m. Creatine, creatine, creatine, yes, high protein, one gram to 1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight, huge when I started to lift heavy and do those two things, and keep up with the flexibility, mobility that just gave me more inner power, activation, if you will, great for the skin too, and caring for yourself, not just your skincare, not just your rejuvenation, but purifying your environment, air, water, lighting, electromagnetics, eating the right food, then detoxing is a key part, but it's what we do every single day.Lesley Logan 47:07  I love that you brought those things up, because I do a lot of people go on detox all the time, but they don't fix their don't check their water problem. When I lived in L.A., all the water stuff said the pipes were great. Everything is great. You guys, I had arsenic and cadmium in my system. So how, right? So we had to, like, we lived in a 500 square foot apartment and had, like, a $5,000 water system put in, and yes, I took it with me when we moved. But I think it's really important so that you all can support things. Right? These are things you can do at home, with your for yourself and in your environment to help you feel really good. So I am obsessed with these tips. I really am obsessed with you. I can't wait for more conversations together and how people are going to use these tips in your life. You guys, let us know. Tag Rachel Varga, tag the Be It Pod. Share this with the friend who needs to hear it. Sometimes we have friends who are actually overly picking on themselves, and maybe I actually think the words that we talked about here today can really support that and help them understand like, you know what is needed, what is necessary, what is helpful, and then also, if you're starting to feel a little bit out of it yourself, like I, I'm gonna tell you right now, it's really okay to care about how you want to put your hair or how you want to dress, because those things actually help us show up more in the world. And we're we are allowed to take up space. So Rachel, thank you so, so much. And until next time everyone, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 48:23  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 49:06  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 49:10  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 49:15  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 49:22  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 49:25  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

What benefits can you actually expect in your first year of strength training? Amy Hudson and Dr. James Fisher continue their conversation on the benefits of strength training. In today's episode, they unpack the real, research-backed adaptations that happen within the first one to 12 months of training. They break down what you can expect to feel after a few weeks, what continues to improve month by month, and why sticking with it pays off far beyond muscle and strength. Amy starts by explaining that exercise isn't something you do once and tick off your list. It's a habit that keeps giving back the longer you stick with it. Every session is like a small deposit that compounds into a stronger, healthier you. Dr. Fisher says strength training is an investment in yourself. You're not just building muscle, you're buying more energy, confidence, and independence for your future self. The time you put in now will pay you back in ways that go far beyond the gym. For Amy, a good personal trainer will remind you that the first few weeks aren't about lifting heavy, they're about teaching your body to move better.  Your coordination improves, your posture feels stronger, and your confidence starts to grow. Those early wins are what keep you coming back. Dr. Fisher explains what happens within the first four weeks of strength training. Your muscles learn to work together better, your flexibility starts improving, and your blood pressure can even begin to drop. You may not see big physical changes yet, but your body is already rewiring itself for better performance. Dr. Fisher says that after about eight weeks, you might notice your shirts fitting a little tighter around the arms or shoulders. That's your muscles growing and taking shape.  Dr. Fisher shares that after eight weeks of training, your body activates a powerful cleanup process called autophagy. Old or damaged cells are cleared away and replaced with healthier ones. It's like your body is renovating itself from the inside out. Dr. Fisher explains that when we don't move or train, damaged cells hang around longer than they should. But when we strength train, we help the body recycle old cells and build new, healthy ones. You're literally helping your body stay young and resilient from the inside. Research shows that after 11 weeks of strength training, anxiety symptoms go down in both healthy people and those struggling with clinical anxiety. It's proof that lifting weights isn't just for your muscles, it's for your mind too. Amy adds that most people don't realize how deeply exercise helps with anxiety. It's not just the happy feeling right after a workout, it's the long-term changes happening in your brain chemistry. You're training your body to handle stress better and find calm more easily. Learn why most people fall in and out of their workout routines. The biggest benefits only come when you make working out part of your life, not a phase. T That's why working with a strength coach is important. When motivation fades, your trainer keeps you grounded, reminding you why you started.  Dr. Fisher compares strength training to saving for retirement. You don't put money away once and expect to retire rich; you invest steadily over time. Every workout you do is like another deposit toward a stronger, healthier future. Dr. Fisher says one of his favorite milestones happens around 13 weeks. That's when people start hearing compliments like "you look different" or "what have you been doing." Those moments make all the early effort worth it because now the change isn't just internal, it's visible. When someone notices and says you look stronger, you naturally want to keep going. It's that social boost that turns exercise into something you genuinely enjoy. By the 16-week mark, your body becomes more sensitive to insulin. For some people, that means reversing type 2 diabetes completely. You're giving your body the ability to balance blood sugar naturally, just by staying consistent with your workouts. Understand that strength training doesn't have to take hours a day or feel overwhelming. Even short, focused workouts can completely change how you look and feel in just a few months. Dr. Fisher highlights that after about six months, your body starts burning more calories even at rest. Your metabolism naturally speeds up, and you're using more energy just by living your normal life. You're literally becoming a more efficient version of yourself. Dr. Fisher explains that consistent strength training can make your biological age younger than your actual age. You're not just feeling younger, your cells are acting younger too.  Dr. Fisher breaks down research that compared strength training to yoga and Pilates.  Amy says the first six to twelve months of training are where the magic happens. That's when you see big shifts in strength, energy, and even mood. Once you start feeling those changes, it's hard to imagine ever going back. According to Dr. Fisher, strength training should become as normal as brushing your teeth. You don't do it for a few months and stop; you do it because it keeps you healthy and balanced every single day. It becomes part of who you are. Amy closes by saying that no matter your age or starting point, it's never too late to begin. The progress might start quietly, but it builds faster than you think. Every workout is a reminder that you're taking care of the only body you'll ever have. During that first year, there will be days you doubt yourself, but having a personal trainer or a strength coach in your corner keeps you grounded. You start realizing you're capable of so much more than you thought.     Mentioned in This Episode: The Exercise Coach - Get 2 Free Sessions! Submit your questions at StrengthChangesEverything.com     This podcast and blog are provided to you for entertainment and informational purposes only. By accessing either, you agree that neither constitute medical advice nor should they be substituted for professional medical advice or care. Use of this podcast or blog to treat any medical condition is strictly prohibited. Consult your physician for any medical condition you may be having. In no event will any podcast or blog hosts, guests, or contributors, Exercise Coach USA, LLC, Gymbot LLC, any subsidiaries or affiliates of same, or any of their respective directors, officers, employees, or agents, be responsible for any injury, loss, or damage to you or others due to any podcast or blog content.

Who is Pilate and how does his story add to the trial of Jesus?

On this episode of Coaching Call, Sifu Rafael welcomes Lesley Logan, a globally recognized Pilates expert and co-founder of OnlinePilatesClasses.com. Lesley has transformed the lives of thousands through her innovative approach to Pilates, combining physical mastery with mindfulness and self-empowerment. Certified by the National Pilates Certification Program, she brings decades of experience teaching students and training instructors around the world. In this conversation, Lesley shares how movement is more than exercise—it's a path to self-discovery, resilience, and lasting well-being.Coaching Call is a transformative podcast hosted by Sifu Rafael, master instructor, executive coach, and founder of Speaking Prowess. The show dives into powerful conversations that inspire personal and professional growth, focusing on communication, leadership, and self-improvement. Each week, Sifu Rafael welcomes leaders and experts from all walks of life to share insights that help listeners build confidence, achieve goals, and create meaningful change.Sifu Rafael is a master instructor and the founder of Speaking Prowess, where he combines expertise in communication and leadership to help individuals unlock their full potential. As a professional speaker, solutions expert, and executive coach, he guides clients toward their goals with clarity, purpose, and strategic insight. His mission is to make effective communication accessible to all, empowering personal and professional growth.This episode is brought to you by Sifu's Mind Body Method, a 90-day lifestyle transformation that blends movement, mindset, nutrition, hydration, fasting, journaling, and faith. Learn more at www.sifurafael.com/smbmWatch this and all episodes on YouTube and subscribe at https://www.youtube.com/@sifurafaeltv?sub_confirmation=1

This week we're diving into the wellness stories everyone's talking about, from the call for cancer warnings on bacon and ham to the surprising science behind how one longer walk a day can transform heart health. We explore what the latest evidence really says about processed meat and nitrites, why fibre-rich foods like kiwi fruit could be your simplest gut-health fix, and how shared joy and connection might even help you live longer. Plus, we look at the rise of infrared Pilates, the “hot” trend promising better mobility and recovery, and ask whether the science really stacks up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Savanna and Tyler go off on the biggest skincare myths in this jam-packed episode. From "natural is better" to "SPF ruins makeup," they're not holding back. Expect skincare truth bombs, some hilarious detours (yes, we're talking juicy glutes and scary Pilates instructors), and all the sass you love.Shop here now: https://www.savannaboda.com

Reading Luke 23:1-12 where Jesus is brought before Pilate and Herod to be questioned, and the two rulers became friends in doing the same evil. Visit wwutt.com for all our videos!

Cooler temps have Jase missing Phil and imagining exactly what he'd be saying about all the missed weather reports. Jase points out how people have always craved the same three things—sex, money, and power. Al and Zach connect the dots from the ancient kings of Israel to the modern world's obsession with the same idols. The guys dive into how Jesus turned the entire system upside down, conquering not through wealth or force but through sacrifice, proving that real power comes from surrender, not control. In this episode: Deuteronomy 17, verses 6–7, 14–20; 1 Samuel 8, verses 1–22; 1 Samuel 16, verse 7; Daniel 2; Luke 17, verses 20–21; Luke 21, verses 5–6, 12, 20; Luke 22, verse 53; Luke 23, verses 1–25; John 18, verse 36; John 19, verse 8; Matthew 27, verse 24; Matthew 3, verse 10; Luke 24, verse 7; Mark 9, verse 1 “Unashamed” Episode 1203 is sponsored by: Stand firm for values that matter. Join the fight & give today at https://www.frc.org/unashamed https://andrewandtodd.com or call 888-888-1172 — These guys are the real deal. Get trusted mortgage guidance and expertise from someone who shares your values! https://meetfabric.com/unashamed — Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to help protect their family. Get an extra 25 cents back for every gallon on your first tank of gas when you download the FREE Upside App and use promo code UNASHAMED! https://www.puretalk.com/unashamed — Get PureTalk for just $25 a month. Make the switch today! http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ — Sign up now for free, and join the Unashamed hosts every Friday for Unashamed Academy Powered by Hillsdale College Chapters: 00:00-05:50 Jase calls out the weatherman 05:51-16:34 God's criteria for Israel's king 16:35-23:24 Israel chooses evil kings over & over 23:25-27:32 Jesus & Barabbas have the same name 27:33-39:16 Evil creates strange bedfellows 39:17-45:48 Pilate's wife dreams of Jesus 45:49-56:49 Jesus leaves Pilate & Herod's households shaken Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices