Podcasts about Pilates

Is your Pilates studio stuck in a seasonal cycle of feast or famine? Do your classes fill up in January only to empty out by summer or the holidays? In this episode of The Pilates Business Podcast, host Seran Glanfield shares exactly how successful studio owners flatten the seasonal revenue curve and maintain steady income all year long—without resorting to frantic discounts or burnout-level hustle.Whether it's summer slowdowns or holiday no-shows, Seran explains how to plan ahead, align your marketing with seasonal rhythms, and keep clients engaged and coming back. From building retention systems to launching strategic promotions, this episode is packed with actionable insights that can help you create a more predictable, profitable Pilates business.This is a must-listen for any boutique fitness studio owner who wants to ditch reactive panic and start running their studio with CEO-level strategy. ✨Got a question for Seran? Add it here

Lesley Logan celebrates historic and personal wins in this week's FYF episode. From Kelsie Whitmore making MLB history to a community win from Nancy Lawrence, and a pre-tour packing victory of her own, this episode is a reminder that progress doesn't have to be flashy to be worth celebrating. Take this as your reminder to celebrate yourself.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How one woman landing an MLB spot flips the game forever.Why your wins spark a ripple effect that changes lives around you.How a packing hack turned into a total confidence booster on tour.Why believing in your magic is the ultimate mindset shift.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins - https://beitpod.com/questions@sportysteady on Kelsie Whitmore - https://beitpod.com/kelsiewhitmore If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/ Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:03  Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan 0:04  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hello, Be It babe. Welcome to the quick inspirational episode where it's just kind of fun. We're going to talk about something that inspired me on the internet. Hopefully get you talking. I'd love to hear your thoughts. I'm going to share wins of yours. You can send yours into the beitpod.com/questions yes, I know it says questions, whether you can put questions that you want us to answer on the Be It Pod or your wins, and that way we can celebrate your wins too, and then you get to hear them on a future episode. It's so fun. I just joined a membership group from another podcast that's a local podcast to us. And then when they said my name on the shout out, even they just said Lesley. All they said was Lesley, I was like, that's me. That was me. And like, it's just kind of nice to feel so seen, right? So we want to make you sure you feel seen. So beitpod.com/questions, to put your questions and or your wins, okay? So a win of mine and then we have a little affirmation, and then you're off to your weekend. Lesley Logan 1:32  Okay, so the thing that inspired me today, well, it actually inspired me obviously a little bit while ago, because it's happened already, but you're hearing it now. So get this. This is amazing. History made. The Oakland A's have officially called up pitcher/outfielder Kelsie Whitmore from the Oakland Ballers, making her the first woman everto join an MLB roster! From indie leagues to the big stage. This is a moment for the books. I don't even know. I didn't even look to see if she played. I'm gonna tell you this right now, because that's what society has told us. Like, okay, well, does she play? I don't give a I don't care she played. The fact that she is on a Oakland A's roster. To be like the first this is a May we have to celebrate this right? Like, I hope that they call her up. I hope she gets to play, and I hope people give her space and grace to make mistakes. Like these jerk offs who get to play all the time. Like, baseball kind of pisses me off, because you can have, like, the lowest batting average and still make millions of dollars. So like, you know, I don't care what her performance was, she's amazing. She's there. And like, may this mean that more women get pulled up onto the baseball field, because you know what, baseball, your games are really long. And even though I was raised on baseball, my grandfather was a professional baseball player. I just want to tell you, like, because defense can't score, we need to make things more interesting. I don't want you to gamify it. I want to see women and men being badasses on the field. That's what I want to see. All right. Anyways, from my lips to you know, MLBs here, right? I guess that's how it's going to go. Lesley Logan 2:57  Okay, so now let's do a win of yours, a win of yours. Okay, Nancy Lawrence, oh, my God, one of my favorite humans in the whole world. You guys have heard from her before, because she's been on our OPC members, but she's an eLevate. She's most important like she's also been a retreater with us in Cambodia. We are going to see her again this October. So my win this week, moving with this baby. So this baby means her daughter, Miranda, having my daughter go through eLevate five and learn so much from Lesley Logan's amazing experience. She's learning the exercises, cueing, and so much more. She's becoming the woman she is destined to be, and no longer a tired and frustrated corporate employee working for someone else. She is working on herself so one day she can work for herself. I mean, I think we should just celebrate Nancy another win in this. Another win that we're having here is that you working on yourself and you doing things that light your fire and that you doing things that make you feel so amazing has inspired her that she has this opportunity. And I that's one of the reasons why I love wins and why I want other people to hear people's wins. It's because it inspires other people in your life, this bubble of influence that we can have. So Miranda is winning because you are winning, Nancy, so thank you so much for celebrating wins with us. Lesley Logan 4:13  All right, a win of mine. Y'all this is my win. Okay, so here's the deal, Tami-Adrian, you guys know her from OPC, and she'll be on the Be It Pod, soon. She bought us this gift, which is like, a bunch of those, like packing kits. So it's like, the things that like space savers for packing, right? And it's like she gave us like, four or five of these things, and inside there's like four or five different types of bags that just like, help you save space. And I was like, oh, my God, I'm not an organized person. I have ADHD, so it means I make lists, but then don't use them, you know. But one of the things, we're about to go on tour, and one of the things that I struggle with on the tour, is that we, we quite have, it's cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to build these fans out, the ones you see a van life, at the van life, and they're like, look like so Instagram on glamping, they spend a fuck ton of money, okay, we are doing this ourselves, and yes, we're spending money, but, like, I don't have an extra 100k just to throw into my van. So we are building things out. We have an AC. We want to have shelves, obviously, in drawers for the clothes, but we don't have that quite yet. But what we do have are these packing things. And so what I'm so proud of my win is this. I have already taken those packs and I've put them in the in like outfits of like, okay, this is my workout outfits for this many days. Okay? This is my teaching outfits like this, this is my other things and the way, because we haven't the walls in the van yet, I can put these pouches in the holes of the van so that I don't have to go under the van to pull my suitcase out, which means it's gonna be even easier for me to do my workout every morning. I'm not gonna waste time and lose time trying to pull that out. I'll have my teaching workouts. They're already hung up. You probably have seen how I do that, so that's ready to go. And then I'll have my daily clothes. So I actually get dressed while on tour to go to dinner, because sometimes I'm just, like, shuffling in my pajamas. So I am just, this is my win is where, like, less than a week from tour, and my outfits, not just the ones I'm teaching in, but the ones no one will see, are organized thanks to these packages. And if, and if I never use them again, I will still call it a win. But I've, this is a freaking win. If you have ever, like, organized a drawer, I hope that you see this as you've did a win, you slay. If you organize a closet, you slay. Like, these are the wins that are happening all the time, right? They're happening all the time, and we're just like, nope, didn't get that million dollar deal. So with like, my life's failure. No, no, no. Good things are happening to you all the time. Lesley Logan 6:25  Okay, so let's go to your affirmation. It says you don't need to believe in magic. You are magic. You need to believe in yourself. That's your affirmation. So well, let's change how the words are. I don't need to believe in magic. I am magic. I need to believe in myself. I don't need to believe in magic. I am magic. I need to believe in myself. I hope that hits you in a good spot because it hits me in a good spot. I hope it hits you in a good spot because it hits me in a great spot, right. Like, I really, truly hope that this podcast doesn't just educate you and inform you what's going on. I hope it helps you see like you're doing a great job. I believe in you. I hope you do, too, after that and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 7:11  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 7:52  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 7:58  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 8:03  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 8:09  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 8:13  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The wonderful Keisha Brown joins me on the show today! Keisha is a Master Trainer for Club Pilates, and a Pilates teacher at several Club Pilates studios in Chicago. She shares her journey from watching Mari Winsor DVDs in the early 2000s to healing her body through movement, and now leading teacher trainings in the Midwest United States. She offers valuable advice and insights to what really makes a great teacher and how to improve your teaching. Tune in! I want to hear from you! Share your thoughts and follow the podcast on Instagram and Facebook @pilatesteachersmanual. Full show notes, episode transcription, and chapter markers can be found on the podcast website here: http://bit.ly/pilatesteachersmanual. Be sure to subscribe to the podcast for updates, and rate and review wherever you listen!  Episodes now available on YouTube: *https://bit.ly/YouTubePTM*Email pilatesteachersmanual@oliviabioni.com with your feedback.  Show Notes:   Check out what Keisha is up to on Instagram @kbrownfit and take class with her in Chicago at Club Pilates River North, West Loop, and South Loop locations! Support the podcast:   Get your copy of Pilates Teachers' Manual: The Book at https://book.oliviabioni.com/pilatesteachersmanual (and convert to a Kindle friendly file here: https://amazon.com/sendtokindle if you want)Visit https://shop.oliviabioni.com for podcast merch! Visit https://links.oliviabioni.com/affiliates to take advantage of some sweet savings!Episode Music:Workout Dance Day EDM by Diamond_Tunes, in compliance with Pixabay's Content License (https://pixabay.com/service/license-summary/)Listen/download: https://pixabay.com/music/dance-workout-dance-day-edm-123377/Support the show

Ep 47: this episode we learn about how strength training can help us to heal, from Rachel Robertson, a Mindful Movement Mentor, Kinesiologist, and founder of Return to Form. With years of expertise in human kinetics and functional anatomy, Rachel has dedicated her career to transforming movement into a source of strength, confidence, and self-expression.Rachel's approach fuses the science of kinesiology with the artistry of Pilates, empowering people to move with confidence and feel truly safe in their bodies. Her philosophy blends evidence-based practice with intuitive movement, redefining how we build resilience, facilitate healing, and cultivate long-term well-being.In this conversation, we'll explore how to rebuild trust in your body after injury. Rachel shares practical strategies for intentional movement and insights into the mind-body connection, We also hear the touching details of Rachel's own personal journey—how her experiences led her to help others heal and reclaim their confidence through movement. Whether you're recovering from injury, supporting someone on their healing path, or simply seeking a deeper understanding why strength training is so powerful, this episode covers shifting from fear and uncertainty to strength and confidence through mindful movement.Link to a free resource for listeners from Rachel below.The Store Cupboard Staple for this episode is mighty mung beans!ResourcesRachel's website and social links• Website: https://returntoform.ca/• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/returntoformkinesiology/• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ReturntoFormKinesiologyPilateshttps://tenochtitlan.omeka.net/exhibits/show/zongzi/mung-beanshttps://elifesciences.org/articles/85725https://medcraveonline.com/JHAAS/agronomic-historical-and-socio-economic-dimensions-of-mung-bean-vigna-radiata-l-wilczek.htmlhttps://phys.org/news/2023-06-unraveling-historic-journey-mung-bean.htmlhttps://www.britannica.com/plant/mung-beanhttps://insanelygoodrecipes.com/17-mung-bean-recipes/The Encylopaedia of Healing Foods by Dr Michael Murray, Dr Joseph Pizzorno with Lara Pizzorno MA, LMTMusic composed by cascreativearts, copyright Lyn Sharkey Nutrition. Lyn's website www.lynsharkeynutrition.ieFree Resource for ListenersTitle: Online Mat ClassesDescription: A mat Pilates playlist of workouts for building inner and outer strength.Link: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHLQU2Z6w_-C3FyRf7d9yi8wb3d5tdI5L&si=bBZcL2VJTtCwhVQa

In this recap of the conversation with Wendee Close, founder and CEO of Goals2Life, a personal development platform that helps people turn their dreams into achievable goals. Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell, dive into how burnout led Wendee to build a more values-aligned life and business, how planning can fuel purpose, and why taking bold, intentional action is the key to owning your next-level identity. If you've ever felt overwhelmed or stuck, this episode will help you get back on track one meaningful step at a time.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Tips for safely storing your Reformer in a humid garage.What Wendee asks herself daily to stay aligned and focused.How asking for help can connect you to the right people.A powerful mindset shift to embody your future self now.Why sleep is your secret weapon for clarity and creativity.Episode References/Links:Agency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniOPC Summer Tour - https://opc.me/tourOPC Summer Tour Calgary - Opc.me/CalgaryUK Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukCambodia October 2025 Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comContrology Reformer - https://beitpod.com/reformerSubmit your questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsGoals2Llife Website - https://www.Goals2Life.com If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/ Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  Don't beat yourself up. It's ask yourself very clearly, like, why haven't I done this? What has been in the way? Is this actually something I still want to do? Can I actually do it and then set new measurable goals, set new milestones and make it happen. Lesley Logan 0:14  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:53  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the purposeful convo I had with Wendee Close in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to listen to that one first, then come back and listen to this one, or listen to this one and see if you agree with what we liked about that one. It's your choice. That's what's really important about the Be It Till You See It podcast, you choose. You choose how you want to listen. Today is July 17th. Brad Crowell 1:22  You choose very closely. Lesley Logan 1:23  Yeah, I hope you like that, Wendee. I'm sure she hasn't heard that before. It's like, my mom's last name growing up was Friesen, and like, she was super tall, so they would always go, how is the weather up there? Is it Friesen? Right, like, wow. I know kids are clever and cruel. Anyways, that's, I don't know why that popped in my head. Welcome to ADHD. So today is July 17th 2025 and it's National Tattoo Day. It was also another day, but obviously I have to pick this one, tattooing, the art of inserting pigment under the dermis layer of the skin. Brad Crowell 2:00  In case you didn't know. Lesley Logan 2:01  To create a decorative, symbolic or pictorial design or just a sticker on your body, permanent sticker on your body. Brad Crowell 2:01  Permanent sticker on your body. Lesley Logan 2:06  How I like to think of it. And on National Tattoo Day, July 17th, we set time aside to learn more about the tattooing process. It's a societal importance and history. Okay, here we go.Brad Crowell 2:17  I didn't know that. I'm in on societal importance. Lesley Logan 2:20  You guys, in case you don't understand the process of picking which day, it really is like what title speaks to us, and then we learn about the day as we read about it with you on air, and that someday could become problematic, but we'll edit it out then I guess you'll never know. So if you don't have a tattoo, you likely, or you're likely, to know someone who does. And if you've asked them how they knew at the time when they were getting inked whether they would still want that design on their skin years or decades later, you may have just gotten a peculiar look instead of an explanation. There is a certainly a fraternal connection between people who bear tattoos, a connection that those without ink can never really understand. We asked one correspondent to try address this phenomenon. He said, tattoos began as a ceremony, and they're still kind of like that. Once you're in an artist's needle, it's like a little it's a little like a religious experience. It's like the aha moment people talk about having in a business life. It illuminates something you didn't see before. I don't understand any of that. That doesn't resonate with me in any. Brad Crowell 3:15  Yeah, me neither. Lesley Logan 3:16  So first of all, I overthought my first tattoo, way too much. Brad Crowell 3:20  I mean, took me 15 years to get my first tattoo, because of the same thing. Lesley Logan 3:25  15 years from when you're 18 or like?Brad Crowell 3:29  Yeah, yeah, I didn't get one. So I guess that's not true. I wanted to get a tattoo in my teens. My parents said no, but I started designing it in my teens. Lesley Logan 3:38  Okay, okay. Brad Crowell 3:39  And then I didn't actually get one until 30 years old.Lesley Logan 3:45  Yeah, I got my first one on a blind date.Brad Crowell 3:48  You got one on a blind date? Lesley Logan 3:50  Yeah, we wanted something to do. Brad Crowell 3:52  Wow. Lesley Logan 3:53  I know. Brad Crowell 3:53  This is the first time I'm hearing this story, y'all. Do tell. Lesley Logan 3:57  Anyways. Brad Crowell 3:58  How'd that go? Lesley Logan 3:59  I never saw that person again. And I covered up that tattoo after I left my ex with the cherry blossoms that we then added on to, and then I just got others. Because once you get the first one, you kind of start to just get other ones and.Brad Crowell 4:21  Well, the hurdle has been left, you know, like, you're, you're, there's this weird mental block of like, I don't know if I want to keep that thing on my body forever. And then after, after you get your first one, you realize no one actually gives a shit. And then also you're like yeah, you know.Lesley Logan 4:38  We speaking on podcast or proponents for tattoos? Brad Crowell 4:39  Yeah, I'm not. I'm not that worried about it either. Because here's the other thing, you can also change the tattoo or you can cover the tattoo or you can remove the tattoo.Lesley Logan 4:50  Or you can remove it. Keith Davidson removed all of his tattoos. He is a complete blank slate. Google it right now. Brad Crowell 4:55  No way. Lesley Logan 4:56  Google it right now, because I thought for sure, it's AI and people were saying it's AI, and he has done actual interviews about it, and he there's no way it's makeup. He has, he spent $200,000 getting them all removed. And I thought that's all it costs to cover remove his entire body. Brad Crowell 5:12  I mean, he had a he had. Lesley Logan 5:13  His whole head to toe, like he was so covered. So anyways, our neighbor is shout out to Brieanna, Viva Vanish skincare, she actually removes tattoos. So like, to me, you could just remove it, right? Or you could cover it up, but you, you, you do overthink the first ones, and then you kind of just get them, and they just become part of you. Also, I've gotten, like, my dream catcher, my dream catcher tattoo. It is really funny. When I got it. Remember this, Brad, I got the dream catcher tattoo. It takes up my whole fucking arm. We came back from Cambodia.Brad Crowell 5:48  Upper arm, shoulder down to elbow. Lesley Logan 5:49  Yeah, shoulder to my elbow. We come back from Cambodia and, like, literally, no one notices. Like, no one notices. And I'm starting to think that like it, people don't like it, you know, and all this stuff. And so I'm, like, starting to make this through my head, and then someone who I've never met in person, they only know me through social media. I was at an event, and they're like, oh my god, is that a new tattoo? And I said, it is. Thank you. I just got it, I just got it right. And other people are like, that's new. And I'm like, yeah, there are people who, like, have known me for years, and I'm like, they're like, well, you're just, like, a person with tattoos. You just have tattoos. So anyways, all I had to say is, you know, I saw a reel or a meme. It was just like, tattoos are just stickers for adults. And, like, we like pretty things.Brad Crowell 6:32  I'm in on that. And I was looking up the Pete Davidson thing still, and I found something really interesting. He did an interview with Variety, why he decided to remove all of his tattoos, and apparently he's not removed every single one, but he's removed the majority. He said, on deciding to remove his tattoos, I used to be a drug addict and I was a sad person, and I felt ugly and that I needed to be covered up, and I didn't. And I don't think there's anything wrong with tattoos, but mine, when I look at them, I remember a sad person that was very unsure, so just removing them and starting fresh, because that's what I think works best for me with my brain. When I look at them in the mirror, I don't want the reminder of, oh yeah, you were a fucking drug addict. Like, that's why you have a Sponge Bob smoking a joint on your back. So good for him. Lesley Logan 7:18  Oh, I love that. But see, that's the thing. You can just remove it. So, you know.Brad Crowell 7:22  I mean, it's a process, but it can be removed. It's money and time, yeah. Lesley Logan 7:26  You know what? There's a lot of things you could spend your money on. I, don't get something you don't want. But also like. You. Brad Crowell 7:33  I like, I mean there's definitely sentimentality around the tattoos that that I have, have put thought into them. It hasn't been just like, on a whim, but also, too, the more like, as you get after you get your first one, the second one, the decision to get it was, like, much faster than the first one. Lesley Logan 7:52  Well, I also just want to say, like, you don't have to get them, and it's also fine if you get them and don't over, like, don't overthink it so much because it, because you kind of make it perfect and, like, you're trying to get all perfect. And it's, it's, like, it's, there's no judgment either way, like, you're gonna, life will go on. Brad Crowell 8:10  Well, we are very big proponents of ink and tattoos. We think they're really fun and cool. Lesley Logan 8:15  If it's part of your personality, like, and also, like, I don't, I don't think I remember my parents saying, you like, oh, you're gonna be so judged. You'll never get a job, like, that has never happened to me one time, and I have tattoos all over my hands and like, no one notices. Brad Crowell 8:17  Yeah, yeah. Lesley Logan 8:17  You know. So most of them are for me anyways, because when I have to look at myself in the mirror all the time, and I have to, like, look at what I do, like, or on a camera live all the time, and I'm like, I just want something to look at that's not just my family. Just my face. Like, I'm so tired of looking at my own face, I would like to see something else. So that was really a lot of it for me. Anyways. Brad Crowell 8:50  Anyways. Lesley Logan 8:52  Back to this podcast (inaudible) coming up. So, today we actually kick off Agency Mini 11. That's happening right now. Brad Crowell 9:01  Right now. Right now. If you'd have no idea what that means, and you were like, I need in on this, go to prfit.biz/mini. That's profit without the O dot biz slash mini. Lesley Logan 9:10  It's for Pilates instructors and fitness instructors who want to improve their business and attract clients that actually want to teach and make the money they want to make. So that sounds like you. You do want to sign up for this because the next one with our calendar, if it's possible being Q1 of next year.Brad Crowell 9:25  Yeah, we're, we've been literally, like, tentatively looking at February. Lesley Logan 9:25  Yeah and it could be the end of February. Brad Crowell 9:30  So it's not, we're not doing another one, we're not doing another one this year. And, and honestly, it's a killer program. So, and it's also not expensive, you should definitely do it.Lesley Logan 9:40  62.50 sign up today. Three days. First couple days of replays. There you go. All right. Then we are now really in the countdown of our Summer Tour the van has.Brad Crowell 9:52  We leave next week. Lesley Logan 9:54  I know the van has a new look. We have a huge tour going on. We have so many cities that are sold out. So many people are we're so excited to see in person for the first time, some we were seeing in person for the third or fourth time. We can't even wait. It's powered by Balanced Body, which means we actually bring some of the Contrology equipment with us. You can try it out. We have amazing prizes from them to give out, we're bringing Bayon. So it's opc.me/tour and then you can see all the different cities. And some of these cities, you are easily drivable. We have people who are coming to two cities, so you can do that too. Also, if you're having a little FOMO that we're not coming to a city anywhere in driving distance near you. And I just want to remind you, we are driving for several thousands of miles so you can drive a few hundred. Brad Crowell 10:38  Yeah, you can, it's okay, come join us. Lesley Logan 10:38  But it's like, if that's not an option, the Calgary event is a virtual event. And so it's in-person, of course, but there's virtual seats that are available, and they're limited. So you can get those at opc.me/tour, just pick the Calgary event. And then we come back.Brad Crowell 10:48  That's, I just want to call that again, if you weren't listening, we have virtual tickets for the summer tour for two workshops. Lesley Logan 10:51  Yeah, we've never done that before. Brad Crowell 10:56  Go to opc.me/calgary. To go directly to where you find them. Opc.me/calgary. Cool.Lesley Logan 11:05  Yeah. And then we come back rest up, unpack, repack, because we're going from summer to Scotland's fall, and we are going to be in the UK. We'll be in Leeds and in Essex. Brad Crowell 11:17  Yeah, we're running out of seats over there, y'all. It's exciting.Lesley Logan 11:19  Yeah, oh yeah. It's, well, at the time we're recording every time someone buys, it's like, this is, this stock is low. It's like, low it is. So Leeds only has a couple spots. Essex, we are offering day passes there, but every time someone buys a two-day pass, we run out of two-day passes. That's how that goes. So because it's a week during the week, because it's not nice, like, you can go to a whole workshop day during the weeks, plus, like, a vacation during the week, so go to opc.me/uk, I've had a ton of people going come do a tour in the UK. I'm like, I am, you guys, I'm coming in September. And we have a ton of our workshops that are happening at these locations. You can even do both locations. There's only like one workshop that overlaps, so opc.me/uk and then we'll come back at a couple weeks later, we go to Chicago for P.O.T., and then we go to Cambodia on our retreat. And it's not too late for you to sign up for our retreat for Cambodia, because we just bought our plane tickets.Brad Crowell 12:11  We just bought our plane tickets, and also we just had another person sign up, you know, so there's still time, absolutely, it's not like, you know, the plane tickets aren't getting overly crazy right now, which is nice. So pop in, come join us. Go to crows nest retreats.com. It's going to be a pretty small group this time, so I'll tell you (inaudible). Lesley Logan 12:11  If you don't like big crowds, it's the time to come, because I can't promise you it'll be a small group every time. In fact, I know 2026 has a ton of people, so you're gonna want to do this one because we'll have more time together. It's a lot of fun, and you can always come a day early or stay a day late.Brad Crowell 12:47  Well, we would encourage you to stay a day late, because we actually have two events that we can't include, quote-unquote, in the retreat. I mean, those events include going to see an elephant sanctuary, yeah. And then the second event is a waterfall excursion. And the reality is they're both just like, like, longer events that we couldn't fit into the flow of the actual retreat. Lesley Logan 13:08  Full day events, and also, like, especially the waterfall, we have to have a smaller group weather permitting, you know, all that stuff. So that's why they're extra so and on the extra days, and we're going to do them before we leave, so you should come, crowsnestretreats.com. Okay, we have a ton to talk about with Wendee, but we have an audience question.Brad Crowell 13:26  We sure do. @BrendaHornung1990 on YouTube asks, can I put a reformer in our garage? I'm in the southeast. So does it, so it does get hot in the summer southeast, probably like Georgia or Florida? I think I'd be more worried about the humidity. Lesley Logan 13:46  Good job, Brad, good job. Brad Crowell 13:48  Unless you've got a Contrology Reformer, which won't, you don't have to worry about the humidity as much. Yeah, there's no wood that's going to warp, right? Lesley Logan 13:55  Correct, because that's the thing. So, so the thing so one, I don't know which Reformer you're looking at that makes a difference. Two, so if you get a Balanced Body Reformer, that's wood, like a studio reformer, you have to worry about humidity for the wood. However, their springs have a coating on them, so you don't have to worry about the springs resting, whereas the Contrology, it's aluminum. And so you don't know. Lesley Logan 14:21  Or an Allegro 2. Lesley Logan 14:22  Yeah, yeah, yeah, you could do that. Brad Crowell 14:22  Allegro 2 is also aluminum. Lesley Logan 14:22  Yeah, so, uh, is it aluminum? I thought it's fiberglass. No, no, it's metal, I know, but is it alluminum, I don't think it's, it's white. Brad Crowell 14:34  Yeah, it's, it's aluminum. It's definitely not, it's not fiberglass. Lesley Logan 14:37  Really? We should (inaudible).Brad Crowell 14:37  It's definitely not fiberglass.Lesley Logan 14:37  Anyway.Brad Crowell 14:37  100% not fiberglass. Lesley Logan 14:37  Well, Brad is gonna, Brad is gonna, it's a prefab. I know that it's like the way they make it, anyways, the Contrology. I have friends who have them in Hawaii.Brad Crowell 14:50  Powder-coated aluminum. Lesley Logan 14:51  Okay, there you go. Brad was paying attention on the tour, not me. Anyways.Brad Crowell 14:57  I've also picked them up. I know what they freaking are. Lesley Logan 14:59  Yeah. So the Contrology, my friend has in Hawaii, and the frame is great. Nothing goes on there. Doesn't even rust, but the springs, well, you have to clean the springs, right? So. Brad Crowell 15:12  That's right. Yeah. I forgot about that. That's great. It's exactly the same, like, environment with humidity.Lesley Logan 15:18  I so I worry more about humidity anywhere. And then when it comes to, just, like, the hotness, I mean, obviously it's gonna pin like, are you gonna want to lay on a hot Reformer bed? Because it's gonna like, like, it's like, sitting on your car when the car's hot.Brad Crowell 15:34  Well, here's the thing, you can actually regulate the temperature inside your garage. Lesley Logan 15:37  Yeah, if you can, yeah, then I would do that. Brad Crowell 15:39  In Cambodia, we have these wall units for, like, air air conditioning. Lesley Logan 15:44  Yeah, I love this idea. We're helping you out, Brenda, so get a wall unit, and then I probably. Brad Crowell 15:49  Yeah, they're called a they're called, there's a specific term for them. What are they called? They're not a window unit. They're a wall unit. Oh, they call it a split, mini split. Lesley Logan 16:03  A mini split. Brad Crowell 16:03  Mini split. So that way, what it does is it actually takes the big air conditioning part of it that, like, you know, is loud and noisy, and it actually is outside, yeah, but then the inside is just a little wall.Lesley Logan 16:15  They're amazing. They're so quiet. The other thing I would just say is, like, I've never experienced this thing. I've never had to purchase one in my life. But a dehumidifier is something you can also purchase. I saw one in Brad's uncle's basement. I was like, what is this thing? He said, a dehumidifier. I'm like, I only know about humidifiers. Clearly, that's where I've lived in the world. So you can have a dehumidifier, and then that would make your equipment last a long time as well. Brad Crowell 16:39  That's true. Lesley Logan 16:40  Just something to note that, like Naugahyde and your leather straps, you know, those things can be affected by the weather. So if, again, if it's hot, cold, like, you're just gonna want to find a way to stabilize the environment a little bit so that it, you can have it for years, because that's all I want to make sure, like, we didn't leave my Reformer around the heat. I think my extra Reformers out in the in the garage for, like, in the shed for like, a year, but it was in a box protected. And then we're like, we got to get that in. That's probably not so great for it. So. Brad Crowell 17:07  Yeah, just because the the Naugahyde will eventually become brittle. Lesley Logan 17:10  I think the leather straps would also become, they would dry out as well because, like, they stay healthy because of the oils of the skin. So anyway.Brad Crowell 17:18  I just also found out that a mini split is, it's called a mini split because it's heating and cooling. Brad Crowell 17:24  Oh, well, there you go. Brenda. Show us the pictures of your garage with your new Reformer in it. Brad Crowell 17:24  You're amazing. Lesley Logan 17:24  You guys. If you want to ask us any questions, they don't have to be about Pilates, they can be about anything. You'll, you just have to go to beitpod.com/questions. You can also send us your wins. We can celebrate you. And you can hear about your wins on a day that you need to because they always happen to land on the day. You're like, my life isn't working. And then you hear a win you had, and you're like, Oh my God, it was, I just forgot.Brad Crowell 17:47  Stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 17:49  All right. Welcome back. Let's talk about Wendee Close. Wendee is the founder and CEO of Goals2Life, a personal development platform designed to help individuals create and achieve meaningful goals through detailed planning and execution. It's quite a comprehensive platform. It's actually kind of amazing. After 27 years in the B2C industry, she pivoted into the tech world to build a purpose driven SaaS platform aimed at transforming how people bring their aspirations to life. SaaS stands for software as a service. So the like a SaaS platform would be like Gmail or Google Calendar. That's a SaaS platform. In this case, she's making a tool that is software that'll help you bring your aspirations to life for real, known for her resourcefulness and her get it done attitude, Wendee now helps ground people break through burnout and overwhelm by aligning their goals with their values. And I think for her, that was, like, legit, because she was like, doing she and her husband had started a business that could she do it? Yes. Was she really good at it? Yes. Did it light her fire? No. Should she have been doing it? No, right. But she did it for decades, right? And after all that time, and they really did well, she still was like, I kind of don't like what I'm doing, yeah. And so that's what caused the shift to start this platform, you know, effectively starting a second career after her kids have flown the coop. She they're empty nesters now. So, you know, she's, she's definitely tackling a huge project. Lesley Logan 19:30  Bird launcher. Brad Crowell 19:30  She's a bird launcher. Lesley Logan 19:32  Yeah, I like, I know I said on the podcast, if not, I said her face. I am, like, immensely impressed that she has taken on this project because, like, it's so, like, I had no idea what starting OPC like, how much effort it is to have a platform like OPC. Like it is the amount of work we have to do on a daily basis for OPC is the amount of people who work on that site to keep everything. So like, when she was, when she talks, she's like, oh my God, that is the biggest project in the world. Like, I was just like, sitting there, from the experience of it, and she doesn't even see it as difficult. I mean, like, of course there's difficult times, there's hard days, but she always is like, excited for the challenge. And like, she takes it in, and then she figures out who she has to talk to to make it happen. And so anyways, one thing she said that I love, and I think it is why she can do what she's doing and take on this mountain of an amazing business, is when the vision is clear, you become it. So she is like, even though the project is still being built out and it works. She has tons of clients and tons of customers and tons of companies that work with it, but it was something that she's continuing to build and perfect and do. She isn't waiting for it to be ready to go out there and talk about it. She's talking about it because she's it.Brad Crowell 20:54  She's been talking about it, I mean, you know, before it was even ready to go. She understood what she was building, who it was going to help, and was out there sharing it with the world.Lesley Logan 21:04  I mean, if you haven't listened the episode, you have to, because it's truly a Be It Till You See It like it is, she is not waiting for the project to be ready for someone to deem the project ready for anything like that. She's like, I'm going to go out there, I'm going to talk about it and the questions I get and the things people need are going to help me make it even better. And that's what we are always trying to tell people to do inside of Agency as well. She said, when you believe in what you're doing, it becomes, it becomes easy to show up and say, this is who I am and this is what I'm doing. The vision is so strong, you live it. And I think, like, a lot of us, are sitting in the place where she was before in that B2C thing. Maybe you're not B2C but, like, was she good at it? Yes. Can she do it? Yes. It didn't light her up. And so I think a lot of people are struggling with, like, preaching, preaching out loud and and boasting about the thing they're doing because it's not the thing they really want to be doing. So they're not as excited. She is so excited about this. Every time I talk to her, I'm like, excited about what I do. Like, somehow, like, it reminds me this is why I do what I do.Brad Crowell 22:06  She lights everybody on fire. You know, I bet you, too, that all the things that she learned with her first business on, she managed a team. She, you know, worked with clients. She, you know, understood how to do every aspect of that business. There's like a direct translation for what she's doing now, even though it's a different project and a different product and a different goal, the skills she learned from the first one are absolutely setting her up to excel at this in What? What? So much faster, so much faster.Lesley Logan 22:42  Well, and also, like, every single even if the thing you want to do is something you were never trained to do, every skill that you've acquired along your journey is transferable. It's all. Brad Crowell 22:51  Story of my life. Lesley Logan 22:52  Yeah, it's really all so transferable. And there, most of the jobs that I well, the job that I currently have, there's, like, not like a degree in it. So, yeah, like, I think, like, we're all like, where's the checklist to go check? There isn't one. So get your vision clear and then talk about it. Don't be afraid to talk about it, because, just because people question it or and they might not be as excited as you, their questions help you deliver what you do better. You know? When we first started about OPC versus how we talk about it now, very different based on the questions we got from the way we talk about it, you know, like, so.Brad Crowell 23:28  Class starts at six. I think we even said that. I'm sure it was, like, new class on Tuesday. I really loved when she was talking about clarity and resourcefulness and her reminder about it, specifically around asking for help, right? She has no qualms to reach out to people and ask for help. She is very excited about what it is that she's doing, and because she knows what she's building, it gives her enthusiasm, right, and courage. And then when she goes and she asks someone for help, even if they say no, it doesn't matter. It doesn't deflate her enthusiasm. But because she has that, she can ask for help in a way that is compelling people actually want to help her. She said, every single day, I'm like, I don't know how to do the thing that I'm gonna do today. But what do I want to do? I want to impact lives. So she has a bigger goal. Like, for example, the conversation you were having was about going live on Instagram. She's like, I'm not a techie, you know, social media user, but I'm willing to learn this thing, even if I fail at it, if I fall flat on my face. Because if I can go live with someone today, and it's got to further my actual goal, which is impacting people's lives. And she said she just, she encourages everyone to just be, learn to be as resourceful as you can. Right? And she said, if you're honest and transparent about where you are and what you're trying to do, others will help you do it.Lesley Logan 25:03  Yeah, they will. They because they get excited. Because you're excited. People want to be part of the party. People want to be part of, that is how, for better or worse, people get involved in organizations like you know, they want it. I read the book Careless, careless people about Facebook and, oh, guys, it's a book worth, and if I could get her on, I would, but she's not doing any touring right now, but it's she talks about why she got involved with Facebook and why she was pushing for it to be around the world, because she want, she want to be part of the vision of connecting people, yeah, and helping people have all these and I know that's like the worst example, but also like getting so excited about your thing that people get excited to be part of your life, because they'll want to connect with the right people too, whether or not they can help you, like, Oh, I know, so and so. And then they're so excited about what you're doing when they talk about this to their friend, there's a trust transference, and all of a sudden you have the connections you need, you know. So no one gets to get their goals all done by themselves. It just doesn't happen that way. You want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.Brad Crowell 26:10  Well, yes, very enthusiastically delivered there. Oh, you mean that old thing. Okay, dad. That's hilarious. All right, well, if you are looking for some, Be It Action Items, stick around, because we're going to dig into those when we come back. Brad Crowell 26:33  Okay, finally, let's dig into those Be It Action Items that we had with our conversation with Wendee Close. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo? I'm gonna go first, because she actually went down all four like, right away, which is pretty awesome.Lesley Logan 26:53  Whenever anyone does that, I'm like, oh, you took the assignment to the next level.Brad Crowell 26:58  She did. She did. She said, hey, here's what's bold, own your next level identity, right? She encourages you to ask, what would my future self do right now, today, in this instance, and then take that action from your future you, right? And she said, that's super bold, you know, like, know where you're going, know what you're trying to do, and then you know, if you're faced with a tough decision, would you, would you choose yourself make decision A or decision B, right? And then she said, executable, take small intentional steps every single day, small intentional steps, right? Breaking down big goals into micro movements. And then ask, what's one step that I can take today, right now, and then go do that step. In fact, that's like half of what Goals2Life is is literally the execution element of it, because what they help you do is map out your goals and then figure out how to do them, actually, how to bring them to life, right? Lesley Logan 27:56  Yeah. You just, that's where the name came from. Brad Crowell 28:00  Goals2Life. That's where the name came from. Intrinsic. Align your goals with your purpose. Align your goals with purpose. She said, What? Ask yourself, why does this even matter to me? Like, if you have a goal of, let's say, doing a 5k race, you know. Why does this matter to you? Why you know do the seven layers of why you know, what is it that you're actually trying to do here? And then, when your goals are tied to your values, your commitment will deepen. So you need to understand what your values are. And then we need to find goals that are going to tie it all together. So, intrinsic. Align your goals with your purpose, targeted, set clear, measurable milestones, replace vague hopes with tangible outcomes. Ask yourself, how will I measure the progress? We would suggest deadlines. Deadlines actually give yourself by this time I will do this thing, you know, or by this time I will, I will have this finished or this piece, piece of it accomplished. Because then it gives you targets. Lesley Logan 29:06  I just talked to Agency members about this. I said, if with, like, you know, we're halfway through the year, right? And it's like, if you reflect on your goals, you wanted to have done this year, what you want to have done by now, and you're like, oh my God, I didn't hit the name. It's like, well, it's, don't beat yourself up, it's ask yourself very clearly, like, why haven't I done this? What has been in the way? Is this actually something I still want to do? Can I actually do it and then set new measurable goals, set new milestones and make it happen? You know? So I believe in those I love a deadline. Brad Crowell 29:35  Love a deadline. Yeah. What about you?Lesley Logan 29:37  Okay, so she said, and this goes back to what I was just saying, so I'll just translate. If something's a priority, if it's a goal, it needs to be on your calendar. And that's where a lot of people make mistakes. They're like, Oh, I'm gonna do this thing, but they don't even set aside time, like in my calendar. If you look at my calendar, it'll say, write this thing, do this thing, call this person. It is in my calendar. So there's not like, Oh, here's my three things I wanna get done today. And. I have a wide open day. No, every single work day is like it's full because I have now, of course, I can move things, if something comes up or whatever, but then it gets moved because if it's in your calendar, you'll reschedule it. So that's what's really important. She said, if it's not in your calendar, it's not a priority. And she didn't mention time blocking. I'm big fan of time blocking. I actually talk a lot about how we teach Agency members how to time block so that they actually move the needle forward in their business. She also said this is really important. She said she was talking about her burnout. She said no amount of movement, water, nutrition or meditation can make up for the lack of sleep, so sleep should be right there at the very top. And I think that is the most important thing. It's something I always talk about. When you come on a retreat to Cambodia, we actually like put your dream schedule together, and the first thing you actually put in there is when do you go to bed, and when do you wake up? It's your dream schedule. It's not your current sleep schedule. It's like what you desire to have as a sleep schedule. And it's the most one of the most important things to do is work towards that, because you cannot, like, biohack your way out of sleep you didn't get. Maybe one day, maybe two days, but you can't do it 365 days. Not gonna happen.Brad Crowell 31:16  Wendee and I definitely connected on that, because both of us just didn't leave ourselves sleep time or permission to sleep. And so, you know, definitely impacted me through college for sure, you know. And even today, you know, it's still a decision to make sure that that is a priority, But yeah, I love it. I mean, you know, Wendee is one of the most magnetic people that you'll ever met. Like when she walks into a room, you know it, whether she meant you to know it or not, you know it. And her enthusiasm for and her vision for her business, for Goals2Life, is contagious. And, you know, I think the product is, it's really amazing, and helping people actually move forward, instead of feeling stuck. And, you know, I'm excited, so y'all should go check it out. Goals2Life. The number two, Goals2Life.com, we'll put that link in the show notes, for sure, yeah. But yeah, if you haven't gone back yet, go listen to Wendee. She's amazing. Yeah, go listen to why we love her so much. Lesley Logan 32:25  Okay, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 32:25  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 32:25  Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. How are you going to use these tips in your life? We want to what your favorite takeaways are. We want to also know your questions and your wins. So beitpod.com/questions, I know that's confusing, because if you have a win, you're going to the questions, but I promise you, both columns are there. It's very easy to figure out and share this episode or Wendee's episode with a friend who needs to hear it, because that is how this podcast not only continues to grow, but also helps people be it till they see it. The more people around you that are doing that, the easier it is for you to be till you see it. It's really hard to be around a bunch of Eeyores, guys. So send them. Send them Wendee's. Send them Wendee's episode. And you know what to do. Brad Crowell 33:04  Time to be a Piglet, not not an Eeyore. Lesley Logan 33:06  Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 33:08  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 33:10  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 33:52  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 33:57  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 34:02  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 34:09  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 34:12  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Lesley Logan 34:26  Oh my God. What if we got merch that like, Be It Till You See It is like being like, I don't know. Brad Crowell 34:32  I don't know if Piglet's the right character, but. Lesley Logan 34:33  I don't know. I don't know if it is either. But I feel like we need to figure that out. Like we need we need visual. We need visuals of what a be it till you see it and a versus a, not be it till you see it is. We need visuals.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

If you've been thinking about joining us this November in Costa Rica, I made this short video to walk you through what the retreat actually looks and feels like — from where we're staying to what each day includes. This experience was created with you in mind — women navigating the beautiful, complex chapter of midlife. Women who are ready to carve out space for joy, rest, and deeper connection — not just with others, but with themselves. You don't need to come with a friend. You don't need to know anyone ahead of time. You just have to be open to saying yes — and we'll take care of the rest. This isn't just a vacation. It's a reset. A chance to slow down, breathe deeply, and remember what happiness feels like — in a place that's safe, beautiful, and full of possibility.

This week marks a podcast first, as I open up about my personal journey through the first trimester of pregnancy. Join me as I candidly discuss the lead up and the moment I found out I was expecting, to the symptoms and emotions that followed, I'm sharing it all. I talk candidly about what's surprised me the most, the exciting milestones, the challenges I've faced, and the tips and tricks that helped me manage the early months. I am so excited and grateful to be sharing this journey with you!// MORE FROM BRYONY // Get your free 7-day trial of Pilates by Bryony here. Visit pilatesbybryony.com and shop our products here. Follow me on Instagram @bryonydeery @pilatesbybryony. Watch Beyond the Mat on YouTube. Produced by Dear Media. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

I greet you in Jesus' precious name! It is Thursday morning, the 17th of July, 2025, and this is your friend, Angus Buchan, with a thought for today. We start in the Gospel of John 18:36. Jesus answering Pontius Pilate said: “…My kingdom is not from here.” Then we go to the Gospel of Luke 12:15: “Take heed”, Jesus says, ”and beware of covetousness, for one's life does not consist in the abundance of the things he possesses.”To covet something is to want something that is not yours, and something that you probably don't need but you just want it. My dear friends, I have seen it so many times. We don't need half of the stuff that we have in our homes, do we? I am talking to myself as well. You know, there are things that we love, there are things that we really want but we don't need them, and that is a big danger.Do you remember the story of the man that worked so hard all his life. He scraped, he scrimped, he lived “on the smell of an oil rag” as they say. He worked so hard but it came at the expense of his family, it came at the expense of relationships, he became unpopular. He wasn't very well loved. He saved it up and bought gold, and he bought lots of gold. In fact, he had a suitcase full of gold bars. And then he died and he went to Heaven, and he took that suitcase with him and when he got to Heaven, the Lord asked Him, “What have you got in that suitcase?” He said, “I have got my possessions, the things that I have coveted all my life and I have brought them with me.” The Lord took him outside. He said, “Do you see the streets here in Heaven are paved with gold? It is worthless.”Oh my friend today, please start to focus on eternal things. I am talking about relationships with your loved ones. Work on those things. Don't work on things that rust and moth will destroy, things which have no eternal benefit. That's what Jesus said to Pilate. He said, “This is not My kingdom. My kingdom is in Heaven.”Jesus bless you and have a wonderful day,Goodbye.

Today on Can't Be Contained, I am absolutely thrilled to be joined by Moira Kucaba! Moira is a powerhouse coach, speaker, entrepreneur, and all-around inspiration. From her courageous journey through addiction and recovery to becoming one of the top Beachbody coaches in the world, Moira's story is one of grit, soul, and deep trust in the power of intuition. In this episode, Moira and I dive straight into what it means to live a life that truly can't be contained listening to those “whispers” from within, making bold leaps (even when everyone around you thinks you're crazy), and building a business that feels aligned with your purpose. Moira offers a behind-the-scenes look at her evolution from driven Maryland athlete to hitting rock bottom in addiction, only to rise again and create next-level success on her own terms. We'll chat about the pivots and rebirths that come with entrepreneurship—from pulling away from a thriving Pilates business, to going all-in as a network marketing leader, to wholeheartedly embracing what's next. Moira shares her “High Vibe Method” for manifesting and executing your dream life, emphasizing the daily rituals, deep self-inquiry, and unwavering belief required to grow, lead, and serve at the highest level. Here's just a glimpse of what we'll explore together: ➤ Listening to your intuition and acting on those big, scary whispers ➤ The inside story of addiction, recovery, and radical self-reinvention ➤ Balancing the “boss babe” hustle with the femininity of ease and alignment ➤ Why becoming delusionally devoted to your vision is the heart of real success ➤ Moira's signature daily practices for vision, inquiry, embodiment, and execution Whether you're navigating a big life transition, dreaming of something more, or building your own version of unstoppable success, Moira's vulnerability and wisdom will light a fire under you. Join us as we go deep into the mindset, strategy, and soulful trust it takes to shape a life and career that is wildly, unapologetically yours. Tune in it's time to embrace the impossible dreams, trust yourself beyond logic, and finally live a life that can't be contained! Learn How to Grow Your Income, Impact and Freedom by Becoming a Certified Breathwork Facilitator: https://do.pausebreathwork.com/breathwork-training About Can't Be Contained Can't Be Contained' is the unscripted, unedited – fully uncontained journal entries & real-life experiences of those who follow their bliss & intuitive hits, the freedom seekers, the sacred rebels – the ones who are here to disrupt what preceded us & create what is ahead of us. Subscribe now to stay tuned for every episode!   For full show notes, resources, and links: https://www.samanthaskelly.com/episode-347-moira-kucaba-from-rock-bottom-to-multi-millionnaire/ The Pause Breathwork App is the #1 app to clear stress using your breath. Download the app here: https://pause.live/Pause-Breathwork-App

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In this episode, Dr. Adam McAtee, PT, DPT shares five essential lessons learned throughout his Pilates career, emphasizing the importance of uncertainty, the inevitability of criticism, the significance of building relationships with clients, the value of supportive environments, and the need to embrace one's unique teaching style. These insights aim to guide both new and seasoned instructors in their professional journeys.Click here to get 50% OFF LIFETIME access to the Building Strength & Muscle in Pilates Course (1 time purchase for lifetime access)⁠Click here⁠ for a 2-week free trail of the Anatomy & Biomechanics Club.⁠⁠Click here⁠⁠ for a 2-week free trail of the Pilates Club.⁠Click here⁠ to follow Adam on Instagram.

In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I'm talking all about the spine, not just as a mover or stabilizer, but as one of the body's most important protectors.  You'll hear why I believe spinal mobility is one of the most underrated keys to vitality, healing, and nervous system regulation. I break down how improving segmental movement in the spine can have cascading effects throughout the body, impacting everything from organ function and cerebrospinal fluid flow to emotional well-being and autonomic balance.I also share why so many clients “fail” traditional rehab and end up finding relief through approaches like Pilates or chiropractic care—and how that's often a reflection of what standard treatment is missing.Make sure you tune in to learn why spine mobility might be the most underrated tool in your treatment plan.Resources Mentioned In This EpisodeEpisode 28: The Power Of The Trigeminal NerveEpisode 70: How The Trigeminal Nerve Could Supercharge Your PracticeEpisode 41: 3 Powerful NervesPolestar Pilates Courses - Check Them Out HereSign Up For The Neural Manipulation 1 Barral Institute Course (Please tell them Anna Hartman sent you!)Get the book Trauma: An Osteopathic Approach by Jean-Pierre BarralGet my Regen Session: Reset Your Nervous System HEREMovement Video: Spinal Roll DownMovement Video: DaVinci RollingMovement Video: RagdollMovement Video: Quadruped Segmental Spine MobilityLearn the LTAP™ In-Person in one of my upcoming coursesConsidering the viscera as a source of musculoskeletal pain and dysfunction is a great way to ensure a more true whole body approach to care, however it can be a bit overwhelming on where to start, which is exactly why I created the Visceral Referral Cheat Sheet. This FREE download will help you to learn the most common visceral referral patterns affecting the musculoskeletal system. Download it at www.unrealresultspod.com=================================================Watch the podcast on YouTube and subscribe!Join the MovementREV email list to stay up to date on the Unreal Results Podcast and MovementREV education. Be social and follow me:Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube

What if your brain fog, cramps, or sleep issues aren't random—but your cells calling out for minerals? In this episode, I sit down with Caroline Alan, co-founder of BEAM Minerals, to explore why mineral depletion is one of the most overlooked causes of fatigue, brain fog, hormonal imbalance, and more. We dive into how humic and fulvic minerals support cellular energy, detox, and hydration—and why our modern world quietly strips them away. We also discuss how a few drops of plant-based minerals helped her recover from years of chronic symptoms, burnout, and gut issues—and together, we unpack how to gently restore your body's ecosystem using nature's original medicine. Caroline Alan is the co-founder of BEAM Minerals and a passionate advocate for cellular health through plant-based mineral replenishment. Caroline blends personal experience with deep research to empower people to reconnect with nature and nourish their bodies at the root level. Thank You to Our Sponsors: Cymbiotika: Bo to https://partners.cymbiotika.com/MONASHARMA for 20% off your first order Pendulum: Go to https://pendulumlife.com/ and use code MONA for 20% off all Pendulum membership first orders IFit: iFIT delivers interactive, science-backed workouts from world-class trainers for use at home, in the gym, or on the go. Whether you're doing cardio, lifting weights, or Pilates, every workout adapts to your needs and goals. It's fitness, informed by science and made personal. Learn more at https://www.ifit.com/. 12 tips: Small shifts, big energy—feel clearer, brighter, and more like you. Download my 12 wellness tips with Dr. Mark Hyman: monasharma.com/12tips Stress Quiz: The way you react to stress isn't random—it's rooted in your biology and lived experience. Discover your unique stress type + get a personalized healing plan to help you feel more calm, clear, and resilient. Take the quiz now: monasharma.com/quiz Learn more about Mona Sharma: Download Your FREE Guide - 12 Wellness Tips to Unlock Your Best Health Now: Ready to reclaim your vitality? Download Mona's 12 Wellness Tips and take actionable steps to transform your health, energy, and mindset. Get started now at https://monasharma.com/12tips. Visit Mona's website: https://monasharma.com – Unlock powerful tools and wisdom rooted in wellness to elevate your health, energy, and clarity. Mona blends ancient healing practices with modern science to help you achieve lasting transformation. Follow Mona on Instagram: Stay connected with Mona for daily inspiration, holistic health tips, and personal growth. Join the conversation on Instagram at https://instagram.com/monasharma. Learn more about Caroline Alan: Website: https://beamminerals.com Instagram: @carolinealan.official Instagram: @beamminerals

I was first introduced to Cecile Simmons from her essay on being an expert on wellness misinformation and yet falling down a rabbit hole of social media fueled wellness trends even as she knew she was being duped. After that I was hooked (relatable!). We talk about the upsetting relationship between wellness, misinformation/disinformation and politics. In a world filled with conflicting information and the political agendas that shape wellness, the need for a balanced approach to health that prioritizes genuine well-being over societal pressures is even more needed.Cecile's book Ctrl Delete Hate is out now - get it HEREFind Cecile Simmons work HERE and HEREI've written about ‘eating a lot' here Guacamole FulfillmentAnd how not all poor mental health is ‘bad' - enjoy!Curious about exercise? HATE exercise? Please check out my offerings…You can still jump into the Summer Series ! Grab it now and get consistent, safe, fun (!) movement on YOUR schedule all summer long.I also teach beginner strength and stability via Kettlebells and Pilates as well as several restorative classes and workshops including Anti-Anxiety Cardio and Fascia Release™ all of which are designed to gently shift our bodies into balance without the ableist, fat shaming ‘sweat is fat crying' mentality that infects so much of mainstream fitness. I also do virtual one-to-one sessions, just me and you moving together, relieving your pain, or talking about your needs and goals.I hope you can find something here that supports you.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Wellness and Misinformation02:50 The Intersection of Wellness and Political Ideologies05:44 Understanding Misinformation vs. Disinformation08:45 The Impact of Social Media on Wellness Trends11:55 The Dangers of Tracking and Optimization14:54 The Role of Community in Wellness17:46 Monetization in the Wellness Industry20:40 The Crisis of Dietary Confusion23:35 The Influence of the Pandemic on Health Trends26:41 The Rise of Extreme Diets29:38 The Political Nature of Dietary Choices32:45 The Backlash Against Contraceptive Pills35:37 The Need for Equitable Health Solutions37:56 The Impact of Hormonal Birth Control on Women's Health40:48 Navigating Misinformation in Health and Wellness42:36 Cultural Perspectives on Food and Health46:01 The Influence of Misinformation on Dietary Choices50:37 The Role of Community in Wellness56:52 Men's Health and the Manosphere01:06:11 Political Agendas in Wellness Trends Get full access to After Class with Cadence at cadencedubusbrooklynstrength.substack.com/subscribe

You have heard about AI everywhere, and now it is being used within EMR services. If you feel unsure about this topic or you want to learn more, then definitely play this episode and join us for the conversation! In this podcast episode, Catharine from Jane App and I discuss how Jane App incorporates AI into their EMR, including some general best practice guidelines about how you can use to use Jane's AI Script services ethically and safely in your practice.  MEET CATHARINE Catharine Martin is the Privacy and Compliance Manager at Jane App, where she plays a key leadership role in shaping and overseeing the company's privacy and regulatory strategies. With a strong background in data protection and compliance, she works closely with healthcare practitioners to ensure their practices meet evolving privacy requirements while also finding practical ways to reduce administrative burden. Beyond her work at Jane, Catharine is also a dedicated Pilates instructor, bringing the same focus and discipline to her teaching as she does to her professional work. Learn more about Catharine on her LinkedIn profile.  In this episode:  Working with Jane App  AI Scribe AI in client diagnostics  It is all up to you  Jane's appearance in The Globe and Mail  Working with Jane App Catharine, 20 years ago, after giving birth, had a radical and unexpected medical event that left her in a brief coma, experiencing multiple organ failure.  However, due to her incredible doctors, her strength, and a lot of luck, she survived and kept all her organs, without needing any transplants, and went on to make a full recovery.  How did this bring her to work for Jane App? After what Catharine went through, she felt so drawn to Jane App's vision to “Help the helpers”, that she started working for the company to further their mission.  AI Scribe Jane App offers an AI scribe feature. It essentially charts notes from your sessions with clients in your own voice.  Jane secured a third-party vendor who is known for their robust privacy practices, which are all compliant with the required ethical laws and privacy legislation, to help them integrate the AI tool.  AI in client diagnostics ‘As part of using Jane's AI Scribe, therapy notes are included, but not diagnostic suggestions. As in, diagnostic suggestions are not coming from any AI-powered tool. Diagnostic suggestions are coming from a human, providing care to another human.' - Catharine Martin  Even though Jane App makes use of AI in some of their service offerings, they are critical of making sure that it is being used ethically and appropriately, and only for admin-related tasks.  The care suggestions and client diagnostics will still only come from you, the client's therapist, based on your sessions together. It is all up to you With your Jane App subscription, when it comes to AI, it is all up to you. You don't have to make sure of it, even though it is being offered to you.  You can easily opt in or out of using it within your Jane App subscription, hassle-free.  Also, consider the risk of any tool that you use when you are weighing up whether to use it or not.  Jane's appearance in The Globe and Mail Jane App made great headlines in one of The Globe and Mail's articles for reaching a $1.8-billion valuation.  Jane App is looking to adopt AI on a grand scale by continuing to explore its benefits ethically to help more helpers.  Connect with me: Instagram Website  Resources mentioned and useful links: Ep 169: Rachel Brennan: Keeping Connection in an Online Group Practice | EP 169  Learn more about the tools and deals that I love and use for my Canadian private practice Sign up for my free e-course on How to Start an Online Canadian Private Practice Jane App (use code FEARLESS for one month free) Get some help and freebies on your website with WordPress!  Learn more about Catharine on her LinkedIn profile Rate, review, and subscribe to this podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon, and TuneIn

We're taking you on a wellness journey to Mykonos, Greece for a weeklong retreat with Thrive Retreats and shining a light on the world of retreat travel. This was SO MUCH more than a wellness retreat for fitness, it took self-care into all areas of life for one of the best vacations possible. This weeklong retreat was at the most beautiful boutique fitness resort and perfectly paired workouts, nights out, boat days, spa treatments, beach clubs, and plenty of time to explore this fun island of Mykonos.Thrive Retreats Mykonos took place at the absolutely stunning Charisma Hotel & Wellness Suites - I would recommend staying here for anyone coming with or without the retreat! The outdoor gym overlooking the ocean, poolside reformer, plunge pool suites, gourmet breakfasts and service is top tier.We revamped our 9-day Greece Itinerary with an expanded stay in Mykonos!If you are traveling to Mykonos and the other islands and mainland, check out our curated list of Greece things to do in our Viator Shop for more good recommendations like the boat tour, and Greek food tours.For an easy transfer service, send a text 24/7 on what's app +30 6951 34 34 34Do not forget to bring sunscreen and mosquito repellent - you will need it in the summertime!Search for a great flight deal to Mykonos on Thrifty Traveler Premium's daily flight deals (points & cash) emailed directly to you! Use our promo code TS10 to get $10 off your first year subscription.—---------------------------------------Shop: Trip Itineraries ⁠& ⁠Amazon Storefront ⁠Connect: ⁠YouTube⁠, ⁠TikTok⁠, and ⁠Instagram⁠⁠ ⁠and contact us at travelsquadpodcast@gmail.com to submit a question of the week or inquire about guest interviews and advertising. Submit a question of the week or inquire about guest interviews and advertising.

What happens when entrepreneur burnout leads to a complete shift in how you work and who you serve? In this episode, Lesley Logan talks with personal development expert and Goals2Life founder Wendee Close about her startup journey, building a purpose-driven platform, and why slowing down can actually speed up your success. If you're feeling stretched thin or stuck in your business, this conversation will help you reset your goals, reclaim your time through time blocking, and prioritize well-being — starting with sleep.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:What led Wendee to build a purpose-driven platform from scratch.Goals2Life's impact in helping people avoid burnout and regret.How Wendee's leverages AI in helping students build habits that stick.How time blocking can help protect your energy and prevent burnout.How asking what your future self would do can guide your daily decisions.Episode References/Links:Goals2Life Website - https://www.goals2life.comGoals2Life on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/goals.2.life/Goals2Life on Facebook - https://beitpod.com/goals2lifefbWendee on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@WendeeCloseBook: Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert - https://a.co/d/8xm2XNRGuest Bio:Wendee Close is dedicated to empowering students with the life skills they need to set and achieve meaningful goals. Through her Goals2Life framework, she helps young people break down big ambitions into small, actionable steps that lead to success. With a personal development and goal planning background, Wendee provides tools and guidance to help students stay motivated, build confidence, and turn their dreams into reality. Wendee Close is a recognized leader in personal development and goal planning, specializing in helping students build habits that drive success. As the founder of Goals2Life, she teaches young people how to transform overwhelming aspirations into structured, achievable steps. With years of experience in coaching and mentorship, Wendee understands the challenges students face—procrastination, uncertainty, and lack of motivation—and provides clear, actionable strategies to help them thrive in school and beyond. Whether preparing for college, a future career, or personal milestones, Wendee equips students with the mindset and tools to take control of their future. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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You have to take care of yourself. Because if you just focused on, oh my gosh, I love what I do, I'm going to work, work, work. That's great. But guess what? You're not going to show up as the best version of you.Lesley Logan 0:12  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:51  All right, Be It babe. I'm gonna get into this interview as quickly as possible, because our guest today is one of my favorite humans in the world. Everytime I get off a call with her, I am more motivated to do the thing I already was motivated to do. So this podcast is honest, it's authentic. It's got great tips and it's gonna help you be it till you see it. So here is Wendee Close from Goals2Life. Lesley Logan 1:13  Be It babe, get ready. This conversation is gonna be the caffeine you forgot to get yourself this morning. I promise you. Wendee Close is our guest today, and the two of us, we get together, it's like, so you are, you can slow the speed down if you're someone who speeds up the podcast. Wendee Close, girl, I love you. Can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at? Wendee Close 1:35  Oh my gosh. Okay. Well, first off, my name is Wendee Close. Like she said, I am the CEO and founder of Goals2Life, and I rock at execution and getting shit done. I am the GSD girl. Definitely want to bring it to people where they could actually say, I want this, and they just don't know how to actually implement it. And I'm your girl for that.Lesley Logan 1:53  You so are. Here's the thing, like I was looking through, you know, Be It babe, we have, like, a form that people fill out. And it's really funny, because I, whenever it's a friend of mine, I'm like, just fill out the logistics, like email address, I know you, but like, my team's like, we do need the bio, Lesley, we do need these things. I'm like, ah (inaudible). But one of the things that I love that you wrote in this form, you actually talked about being it till you see it as a CEO of Goals2Life. And I, I would love for you to share that with people, because I couldn't agree more when I met you, when I met you, Goals2Life was an idea. You were busy doing the things, but it wasn't a thing yet. But to me, I was like, I felt like, oh my god, this woman is the CEO of the biggest, coolest, most amazing, successful company, and then I find out, like, the next day, when I'm talking with you, you are in the process of it. So you are a Be It babe, example, tell everyone what you did. Wendee Close 2:51  Oh, I, 100% okay. So for me, I lived 27 years in a B2C world, and that's like, you know, working directly with the consumer I decided, you know, here I was not in alignment with my calling. So I'm like, okay, I have now been put into a direction that now is in alignment with my purpose. So it's very clear when you have vision and you're like, okay, this is the vision of what I'm supposed to do, the gifts that I have, I'm perfectly in alignment, it, and when the vision is so clear, you you become it. So I knew I had to create a SaaS platform, which is a software service, a huge platform to solve a world problem. It's like, it's not, it's so much bigger than me. And so I have to believe so much in the calling and the purpose and my gifts and my capacity to know when I walk into the room, it's already happened. It's already happening like I already know it's not if, it's just when, and it's going in because the conviction is so strong, because you're filling a need and a void that is so needed, and you know you have the right solution, and you know you're the right person. You just show up because that's who you are, and that is what you are doing and what will be done in the perfect time. So you know, when you believe in what you're doing and when you're in alignment, it's just so easy to show up and say this is who I am, this is what I'm doing. These are the lives I am changing. This is what I'm going to do. And I'm not just doing it here and now I'm going to do it across the world. So it's just taking it in and sometimes living it way bigger than you are, because the vision is so strong and you believe it, so you live it. Lesley Logan 4:28  Yeah, I, I agree with that. Like I and loves, you don't need to know what a SaaS or a B2C is, to know that, like, all this stuff, like, to take everything she just said because I think what I, what I want to highlight is, like, you are very successful for 25 years in doing what you're doing. Like, honestly, you could have just like retired. You could have just like part time. Wendee Close 4:49  Yeah, my husband reminds me that all the time, let's just take a risk and let's just go live decide when he wants to leave a legacy in a whole different direction. You know it is, it can make you sick if you are out of alignment with who you are. And until you could really find your purpose and use your God given gifts, it can be a struggle, and you may have this emptiness or feeling of unfulfillment. And so until you can actually get clarity on what that is, and then start crafting a plan and start moving into action and when you start acting on the things that you know and you're in alignment, you start having this overwhelming sense of joy and there's not a day of working, you know, when people say, you know, what's the saying of when you, when you love, what you do, you're never, never work or whatever, truly like, I get up and straight, straight up, you guys, I'm in a startup, and this is launching a software startup. This is not easy. This story to be tell. I cannot wait. Lesley Logan 5:44  It's like obstacle after obstacle, like green light, yellow light, red.Wendee Close 5:50  I will tell you I wake up every day with so much joy of the opportunity to be called to do something so great, and to actually be able to impact lives and make a difference. I do not, no matter how many hours, no matter what the struggle, no matter what the difficulty is. When you are in alignment and you have vision and you know you can help other people, there's not, it doesn't feel like work, like it really doesn't even, no matter how hard it is, unless you know it's hard.Lesley Logan 6:17  Yeah, oh, it's, I agree with you, like, you know, before we hit record, I was like, I refuse to work more than eight hours a day. Wendee Close 6:23  Yeah. You just told me that. Lesley Logan 6:24  My work day is technically scheduled to be around seven, sometimes six. And the reason is, is, like, it's gonna go an extra hour. I'm gonna, like, I'm gonna wrap things up before I, like, sit down and I'm like, okay, what's going on for tomorrow? That doesn't mean I don't love what I do. It just means that, like, I also know that I have to live a full life, to show up every day to be the thing for you, for everyone that I'm helping. But I wake up every day like so excited. I do not hit snooze, I get in a cold punch, I get my walk in. I cannot wait to do the things that I'm doing, and I agree with you. Like, if you are out of alignment, you do almost get sick, you get frustrated, you start lashing out. You know, I guess, like, the question I have because, like, I we, I am in a tech business, which I would never have thought, like, I didn't. I was like, I'm a Pilates instructor and I hear my husband go, oh, we have a tech platform. And I was like, I'm like, we do? It's beautiful. It's so good. Lesley Logan 7:17  Hold on, does anyone notice what colors I'm wearing? Lesley Logan 7:20  Oh, my God, she is wearing OPC color. She's got the OPC hot coral. She's got the OPC turk- she is OPC. So I, I think, like, I think some people get caught up in the part that we're in right now, which is, like, we're in it. We're building something we didn't know. And you're kind of learning as you build a plane. How did you get yourself to trust that you'd figure it out? Because, like, you go from having the goal of a Goals2Life is, and by the way, her B2C was not like, also in tech guys, so this is, like, a whole, I just want to say, like, like it was, this is a 180 from what she was doing. How did you go from like, it's okay that I don't know what I don't know, I'm gonna do it anyways. Like, how did you wrap your head that you'd figure it out?Wendee Close 8:09  I, well, I would just tell everyone, just learn to be as resourceful as you can. And I was not afraid of asking a lot of questions and being vulnerable to the people that I know had the answers, because people really do want to help you, and there's a lot of people out there that if you come and you just being honest and very transparent about where you are and what you're trying to do and that you don't know, they will help you. And so I have made some incredible relationships and found some phenomenal mentors on this journey asking. And then I am just extremely resourceful, and I have confidence to say, you know, there's a lot every day I wake up every single day I'm like, I don't know how to do this. I don't know how to do that. Like today, I'm doing a live with Brooke Riley, and we are going in because I don't know how to go live. You guys. I don't. And guess what? What do I want to do? I wake every day, up every day figuring out how I can reach more people, to impact more people's lives. So guess what Wendee needs to do? I need to get out of my comfort zone. I need to learn how to go live, how I can get in front of more people. Do I want to do it? Not really. But guess what? I do want to impact lives. So guess what Wendee's going to learn? We're going to go live and we're going to learn how I'm going to go live through Goals2Life. I built a plan. She's going to teach me, and we're going to teach other people, but that's like everyday, I don't know what I'm doing. I'm going to get online and say, I don't know what I'm doing. So you all can watch me not know what I'm doing, but we will learn together, and people will be more vested in what you're doing when you show up that way.Lesley Logan 9:37  I agree. I, thank you for, and also thank you for being vulnerable and you, you and Brad are like people in my life who like you're not afraid to ask people for help or ask people for connection or ask and I didn't grow up like with that. And so I'm always so surprised when I see people do it. But then what it does is it gives me permission to do it too. And so I find myself doing it more, and I'm like, okay, and I don't even have to feel guilty for asking for that, because they are doing it. If they didn't want to do it, they wouldn't do it. And if they don't do it, it's not that they don't want to do it. They might have forgotten. So let's just, hey, are you still going to do that thing? No problem if you're not. Like, you guys have, the two of you, thank God for you. Like, it's a contagious behavior that you have that I needed. So let's talk a bit about Goals2Life. Because, like, you are creating this platform. It is huge. It is robust. It is for the biggest impact of all these people. Why and what do you want people to do with it? Wendee Close 10:36  Oh my gosh. Well, the big why is I want people to live a life of wholeness. We want to help people trade that burnout, that fatigue, for fulfillment and the overwhelm for outcome, by helping them bring their goals to life, but the biggest thing is, in every area of their life. We don't want one person focused on one area and looking back and regretting and understanding that they compromised other areas, just like, Lesley, how you're saying you're going to do an eight hour a day. You have to do that self-care. You have to take care of yourself. Because if you just focused on, oh my gosh, I love what I do, I'm going to work, work, work. That's great. But guess what? You're not going to show up as the best version of you. Something's going to give, and you will get the burnout if you don't take care of yourself. So it's really bringing awareness to people, understanding that we are so multifaceted, and we have to take care of each area, like if you neglect your finances, your relationships, your spiritual connections, your anything like I, mental health, like, you could literally, okay, let's just talk right here. We could be the best Pilates person ever, and have your body so strong, and here you are, but mentally, you're a hot mess. So health is not health, like, that's great. But guess what? If you're not taking care of your mind and having peace in your mind and reducing that stress or anxiety that you might be feeling, then you're really not feeling as if you are truly at peace and in harmony with what you're supposed to. So, yes, first thing first, Goals2Life is to help people, because they, they, everybody, I don't care if you're 10 years old or 90, everybody wants something. They desire something. They need to do something, or they dream of doing something, right? So now it's like, okay, what do they do with that? Most people just spiral it in their head. We empower people to allow them to understand the next step is to actually get it written down. And how do we help them create a plan? Because without a plan, they're just wandering around with a no direction. Have no clarity. They're stressed because they don't know what direction they're going. And then once they write the plan, we have an easy tool and a resource through our system to help them implement and execute the plan so what they can actually achieve the life they want. And that's what we want. People deserve to live the life they want. They just need to know how to do it. And we want to empower them through Goals2Life, to live the life that they really deeply desire. And people just don't know how.Lesley Logan 12:59  Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's true. I mean, like, I think people get so caught up in the how. And there's all these coaches out there, very brilliant people who are like, oh, don't get, don't get stuck on the how, just figure out the why and the what. And it's like, yes. And also, like, people do need to help with that first next step, because if they don't know the first next step, they will just get stuck in this house. So I really love that you've like, created this platform that really helps people, like, create a plan.Wendee Close 13:27  A detailed plan. Sadly, I know people don't want to live in the details. And right now, we're working with a university here in Southern California, University of Irvine UCI.Lesley Logan 13:35  Cool.Wendee Close 13:36  And I have their I have their computer science department, their graduate students working on our platform right now, and you know, we're talking about AI. So AI is built into the system to guide you. We do have over 60,000 data points, so we have recipes for success. You want to feel this way? We'll tell you the strategies and actions. You don't even have to think, but we want people to think. So, we're like, how much do you want AI influencing a life plan for people? And it's interesting, because AI is such a big topic right now, where you know to commit to something, to really commit to change, you do need to know your why, but you have to be vested into the work of creating and thinking about what, what you are willing to do, what you're willing to sacrifice. And you can't let AI do that, and AI can't do the actions for you either. You have to do the work and yeah, so it was interesting a fine line of how much you bring AI into this process, because if you make it too easy, they're not going to end up executing. Sometimes you have to do the work to be more committed.Lesley Logan 14:34  Yeah, I think you have to have some skin in the game, like, there has to be some investment. It's the same reason, like, you know, I got I did a lot for my business, listening to podcasts for free when I didn't have money to invest in coaching, but at some point, I was not willing to take the risk money-wise in my business with these ideas I was hearing on podcasts, until I invested in a like, you have to have some skin in the game so that you actually can do the work. I agree. My girlfriend, Monica, does my photos. She's been on the podcast before. She is like, are you using chatGPT to give you a pep talk in the morning? I was like, no, what are you talking about? Wendee Close 15:10  I haven't heard of that. Okay. That's a new, that's a new, thank you for sharing. Lesley Logan 15:13  She sent me screenshots. And it is like, Monica, you are the best. I mean, like, it is so great. I was like, okay, I clearly need to get up in the morning and say, good morning. Here's what I got going on today. Give me my pep talk. Like, not because I need it, but like, there is something nice about someone else going, you got this. Like, I think that that's really cool. I want to go.Wendee Close 15:33  I love that, by the way, thank you (inaudible) We could all use some motivation, right? Lesley Logan 15:40  Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, I don't know, some of us listen to music, like, we've had, like podcast guests on before. Like, their Be It Action Item was like, pick up your fave what's your song that's gonna be your Be It song and play it every morning. And that one resonated for me a little bit. But there's something about like, I don't know someone like, like, cheering me on as I get ready in the day, like, I kind of need it, but I, I want to go to like you are so good, and like one of the most generous humans I've ever met is you okay? So you are, like the picture next to the definition of the word generosity with love, all of that. So how do you make sure you don't get lost in the impact you're trying to make in the and being the owner of this business, EE CEO, the wife, the mom, all the things that you do, like, how do you prioritize Wendee? How does that happen? Wendee Close 16:25  Oh, wow, that's, that's great. You know, I was thinking about that because I love human connection, and I love people so much. And sometimes, you know, I know that I give at a 10. Like, you know, some people are like, are you a bucket? Like, where do you go? Because not everybody's at a 10. Some people are at a two, and you can't have those expectations that they want to love on you the same way, but they do love you. They just don't have the capacity to love it that way. So I have to say when I'm doing it, it has to make me feel good like when I'm giving and loving I have to be filling my bucket. The minute I'm start doing things that are not serving me well. I need to set my boundaries and realize, am I doing this because, why am I doing this? Is it because it's actually filling me up, and if it is filling me up, then I will continue to do it, but if it's starting to I'm starting to question if it's taking away and not serving me well, I need to step away. And I think having those evaluations just because it's a behavior or something that I'm used to doing, I have to check myself, time, because time is so valuable, right? But I do know that for me, having I'm not a surface person in any way, shape or form, having meaningful conversations with people where we actually are challenging and supporting each other is really what fills me up. A lot of time with my husband, where we have time to pray and be together and connect and start our day off that way. I do start my day off with a playlist. We have Goals2Life playlists for every goal, type two on Spotify. So I am a music girl, but I do listen to podcasts. So Lesley, keep them coming if you're listening to them, you know, share them with me, because I do. But I think, believe it or not, as much as people think I'm such an extrovert. I'm actually really much of a needing to be quiet and still, so I do a lot of time in the sauna, reflecting and journaling. Also, that's how I take care of myself. I love my infrared sauna. I love to start my morning in there and just secluding myself with myself, and just having peace in the morning and taking care of my thoughts and my body.Lesley Logan 18:19  Yeah, I agree. Like, I know, I know there's a lot of people like, have, like, I have a lot in the morning. I have all this going on. I'm not a morning person. I'm gonna tell you, like, if you that's fine if you could prioritize another time of your day to give to you and your body. But if you're still not, then you gotta figure out how to do it in the morning, because there's something really amazing about, you talk about your cup being, your buckets, like, at a 10. I can tell the difference when I have, like, not done, not have to do my whole routine, because I travel a lot. You travel a lot. Like, I'm not gonna I don't have my sauna with me, my sauna blanket, or my cold plunge in my hotel. Wendee Close 18:53  I know, you're like, dang, when you come home and you're like, whoo. Lesley Logan 18:56  I know, but, but I still like, I'm like, okay, well, I can still do a morning walk, or I can still do a morning meditation. There's there has to be something that is selfishly for me to fill up so that I can show up and be the gregarious introvert you all know me as. That's what Brad calls me, I say high-functioning.Wendee Close 19:16  I agree. And I mean, it's and it's in disguise. People probably are always so shocked when you or I may say that I mean as much as I love and I get that sometime it just drains me too. So I just need to get that quiet time and just be alone and still so I can go and be there for people when I'm out next. Lesley Logan 19:34  Yeah. What are you, like, okay, your particular goal, Goals2Life, building this whole thing out, like, it has different stages, has different processes. It's like ongoing, it's years long, you know, like, I think a lot of people, when they set a goal, it's like something that can often be done in a year, but like, this project that you've taken on, like, I've known you for a few years now, and, you know, like, how what do you say to yourself? What do you like? How do you set yourself? I know it's we know we talked about alignment, and this is thing is in you, but it is hard, like I have for okay, I'm going to talk about myself for a second. OPC is turning eight this year, seven or eight this year, and, and if you had told me in, you know, 2017 when I started everything, that it was going to take me until 2025 for things to, like, fall into place. I don't know that I would have started like. I don't think I would have been like. I think I've been like. That is a long time. I don't know that I have the energy and stamina and money.Wendee Close 20:38  Yeah it's definitely (inaudible).Lesley Logan 20:41  And like money to continue to pour into a business to make it fulfill its dreams. So how do you do that? Because, I mean, like this, it's not like, this thing is free, and you're just like, you know.Wendee Close 20:53  Yeah, building a tech company is probably one of the most expensive front end. Like our first business, we had a really low overhead, and were able to bring profit in really quick to, like, grow it, you know. But this is a whole different thing, because you build before you get and what you're building is not something that is low cost. So, you know, especially when you're building it as robust as we are, and it's so layered. Yes, I mean, it is a complete faith project for me, I will have to, and it's not faith, of like, oh yeah, it's not a business, it's a massive business. But it's like, I am 1,000% clear that I am, I am the person, and I have been given the gifts and capacity to bring this out to the world, and I am. There's no turning back for me. So like, when I make a decision, I am going to give it my all, and I trust that God's gonna, like, open the doors and in His perfect time, I know it's not, it's not if this is going to impact lives worldwide. I am 1,000% confident, and let's just, quote me on this, I just don't know when, but it will happen. And it's like, really giving me constantly being around people like you, Lesley, that we just keep cheering each other on, or maybe our chatGPT also cheering us on, and our friends just giving words of encouragement, saying, girl, I get you, like I'm there, like we got this, like, just having each other's back and having people on your journey that are there to just truly support you. But yes, this is hard. Like, this is the story. I mean, I had yesterday and the day before, two really, really amazing, inspiring humans that are almost like mentors to me. They're like, Wendee, this is your story. This story that is, it's not going to break you, like, it's going to refine you to the person that you need to be so you can do what you're being called to do, like, this is hard, really freaking you want to cry sometimes, but you're still joyful, and your heart was like, this is so hard.Lesley Logan 22:42  Yeah, yeah, it I feel you like it is, it's, it's so hard. But also, everything is hard. You know, I once heard like I read, I've quoted this book before, because it's that good. Y'all have to read, it's called Big Magic, and she quotes a guy whose name I'm not remembering, but she quotes a guy, and it's Elizabeth Gilbert's book, and it's from years ago, like probably 2017, 2016, from years ago. And she quotes a guy who says life is a shit sandwich, and you just got to choose a shit that you can chew. Like it's got bread, some great stuff, some shit in the middle, some other great dressing and some bread. Like, just know that everything, every idea you have, every broad project you have, every goal you have, there's gonna be some shit in the middle that you're gonna have to chew up and tolerate and do, and it's hard. And so when I read that, I was like, oh, so it's not, this isn't just hard for me. Like, everyone has a hard everyone's going through it, and so I guess that should make you even feel good, because you're like, okay, I'm on the right path. I'm in the muck.Wendee Close 23:52  Well, no, truly, I mean, and it's just also being really intentional what you feed your brain. Like, I know that what we listen to, who we put around our lives, like even from the music to the if I don't really watch much TV, I don't have time, but like everything, I have to be very careful with what I'm listening to and who's around me, because it impacts and so I have to have things that are moving me in a forward direction and not spiraling me back. So because every you need to show up in a way like right now, I just went on a 40 day reset of resetting my hormones, resetting my metabolism and just getting my brain and everything in perfect alignment to have clarity so I could show up as a best version of me to do the work that I'm being you know, you can't be out drinking every night and eating whatever you want and feeling like crap and trying to show up as you gotta walk the walk, and you gotta yep and say, like, if I'm the one being called to do this, I need to take care of myself so I could show up this way and have the have what you need, because it's a lot of grit. It's a lot of grit. And it's like, I remember, okay, so there was a guy I helped his startup he ended up actually selling for, like, I think, two or $3 billion I mean, there's a big difference between two and three, but hey, in the billions, anyway. So I, when I talked to him, and I still talked to him, he said, are you sure you want to do this? You cannot do this for someone else. This will be the hardest thing you're going to do. And I'm warning you that if you think that you're being inspired by someone else to do it. It has to be so deeply in you, and you have to be so passionate about it, because this will probably be the one of the hardest things, and you have to have so much grit and so much hustle to make this happen. And I'm like, nope, it's in me. And I remember seeing him. I went to Utah to see my daughter, and I went and I went and met him at his office. I'm like, okay, I'm feeling it. This is hard, but I'm still happy. I'm still like, yeah, I'll take the challenge. This is going to be so much fun to do. Yeah. Lesley Logan 25:54  Thank you for sharing that. I think, I thank him for, like, telling you that. I think, like, you know, some people can hear that and think, why would this person try to talk you out of it? But I think, like, it's almost like you gotta talk yourself, like it's, it's you, it's important to know what you're up against so that you can make the best decision for not just you, but your family, those you love, all the things, because they're part of it too, even if they're not on the payroll, like they're in the journey, you know they're sharing you with, with this goal. Wendee Close 26:25  Oh, I, just sharing like I'm empty nester right now, no, kids. I'm some bird launcher. Let's think positive, right? I launched my babies out into the world, and so it's me and my hubby. Lesley Logan 26:33  I, okay, hold on, you're a bird launcher. Yes, we should start changing that, because empty nester sounds like, oh my God, are you okay? But a bird launcher.Wendee Close 26:41  I'm like, hell. I did a great job with these babes. Lesley Logan 26:45  Also, don't we want them to go off and fly? All these kids are coming back to the nest, and I think that that's not so good.Wendee Close 26:51  No, thank you. No, thank you. But yeah, so, you know, it's just all perspective, but it's interesting, because, you know, time blocking is important, setting boundaries is important because I don't want my husband to feel you know, I need to prioritize, because it's now the two of us. It's our time to be together and prioritize and enjoy one another, create experiences, and then also, here I am doing a startup. So bless his heart, but yes, no making sure that I am prior, he's feeling like a priority as we have launched our babes, and it's the two of us at home. He's not feeling second fiddle. So, you know, time blocking those things, it was interesting. Okay, so I, one thing you didn't ask, well, you kind of did, but I didn't say it, um, how I do things is, if it's not on your calendar, it's not going to happen. And you guys know, like with Lesley, she's really good about making sure things are on our calendar, and she has people helping. And same here. If something is a priority to you, if it's a goal, it needs to be on your calendar. If it's not on your calendar, it's not a priority to you. So you've got to look at your calendar and make sure that you see not heavily weighted in one area, that you see that there's different things on there that you are actually prioritizing beside one thing, because something will get. So I will tell you this morning, before I came in, I made sure I'm having a date night with my son on April 1st with my mom. I have a date night to celebrate my reset with my husband this I'm going to an amazing restaurant with him on Thursday and Saturday, so you know, and I'm just booking like, what's important? I need to, if it's important that I do a date night with my husband, that we celebrate our progress, that we I gotta get it on the calendar, that I see my son, that I see my mom, like the people that matter, that, you know, you make time for it. Even time blocking I want to move this project along, time blocking time to work on it. So time blocking is huge for me, and setting aside evening like sleep routines and morning routines and all sorts of things. Lesley Logan 28:41  Yeah, it's, I mean, and that's, we have a fun way that we, like teach you how to put their, like, work schedule together. Because a lot of people we work with, they go, they kind of only get paid if they're working. Now, if you do the math the way we teach you, then you're getting paid for your time off too, and the time that you're working on your business, all that stuff. But all that being said, the way we do it there's like, your priorities have to go in first, and your sleep is the first one. Like, it has to be in there. You have to put that in because if you are fitting sleep in between everything else, you can only go so long doing that. And once you hit 40, good luck, ladies, good luck. Your body will literally hate you back. Like, you'll be like, okay, you didn't treat me well. So here we go. This is what we get. So I couldn't agree more. I think, like, you know it's been said, like, show me your calendar. I can show you what your, what your priorities are. And also, like, it's okay. Like, I had a coach whose coach told her, if you get three things done in a day every day, let's just do it, like, five days a week. That's 15 things that you got done times four. I can't do that math in my 60 things, 60 things in a month. That's a lot of things, you know, but we're all trying to, like, you know, do all 60 things in a day, and then we wonder why we're exhausted and tired, and it's not that we're not moving the needle forward because. Can't have that many plates going this doesn't work like that. So I love that you talked about time blocking and priorities, and also appreciate you sharing, like, what that looks like. Because I think sometimes we think like, oh, it must be like during the day seven hours. It's like, no, you can have dedicated quality time at dinner at a really amazing place you've never been to have a shared experience. Bones flipped off like, you know, enjoy each other and that can't that actually can be enough, you know, so that you guys have something to look forward to, but also something to talk about other people.Wendee Close 30:29  Yes. I mean, it's so important, whether it be a relational setting aside time to work on the things that will, you know, help, help you in each area. Can I just say something really, Lesley brought up a really important thing when I mentioned sleep. So one of the big reasons why I shifted is I had a major burnout. And believe it or not, there was out of alignment, was one part of it, but the other one was me lack of sleep. I thought that I was Wonder Woman. I had the capacity to do all things. I'm Mmiss Energizer Bunny. I didn't need sleep. I thought it was a weird human that didn't need sleep, but I did all the perfect things, like, if you were to name like, what is all the things in every area of their life that you do and I was doing it all, but what wasn't I doing? I wasn't sleeping enough. And so what happened? I got massive burnout, and that had to do because I wasn't sleeping. So now, like, sleep is one of the biggest priorities for me. So I will just let you know. Like, yes, when you say that and it sounds weird, like, oh, but you think this is better, and you're doing all these other things if sleep should be right up there at the very top.Lesley Logan 31:25  Yeah, it's thank you for I mean, like, Brad is also Brad thought he could, like, go without sleep. He's like, I'll sleep when I'm dead. You know. Wendee Close 31:33  Oh yes, that's what my husband said. Lesley Logan 31:34  Yeah and no, no, as a very young kid, he ended up like, you know, at the doctors with them going, you gotta sleep, dude. Like, you have to, you have to sleep, you know, so, so it's, I know, it feels like a waste. It's like, literally, when your body repairs, so no amount of Pilates, water, protein, nutrition, no, you cannot.Wendee Close 31:34  Meditation, any of it. Yeah.Lesley Logan 31:55  No, you cannot out nutrition. Like, and you don't, I don't know, and I will say, like, I'm not someone who says you have to have eight hours. Like, eight hours. Like, there's actual studies that show some people can do six. Some people need nine. Women tend to need more than men. But also, like, I have found that seven hours is really good for me. I can run off six and a half, but I'm gonna have to get some a little over seven in there. Seven and a half not a problem. More than that, unless I'm sleep deprived. It's too much for me. I actually wake up groggy. So, you have to test that for yourself. And by the way, there are like you can use Goals2Life to figure that out. You can make a plan and go, okay, how am I going to figure out how much sleep I need? I know my friend Kareen thought like she needed to sleep until 10, and when she actually work with a sleep person, they're like, no. If you fall asleep when you're tired and you wake up, you technically go to bed around 10, and you wake up at five, naturally, like you at 5 a.m. she's like, I'm a morning person. I had no idea.Wendee Close 32:48  I know I'm building your whole circadian rhythm. It's amazing, you guys. But when in the time blocking of setting your nighttime routines and adding like your bedtime to your calendars is and even your eating times and all this anyways, so Goals2Life does have calendar integration with, like, Outlook and Gmail or Google Calendar, so it really helps. So your goal plan is in complete alignment. But yeah, when people are like, oh, it's a priority, but they're not putting it on their calendar, I'm like, no, it's really not. It's not really your goal. How bad do you want it? You're not making time for it. You're filling it with, like, unproductive things that aren't moving the needle forward.Lesley Logan 33:20  Yeah, yeah, I agree. Wendee, I lit, I literally could talk to you forever. We'll have to, we'll have do this again when we'll do another check in, see how all this is going. We're gonna take a brief break and then find out how people can find you, follow you and Goals2Life with you. Wendee Close 33:33  Sounds good. Lesley Logan 33:34  All right, Wendee, where? Where do they need to go? Where do you hang out? Where are the links? Where are we going?Wendee Close 33:40  Okay, all right. So you can go to Goals2Life.com and that's with the 2 so like, we're bringing your goals to life. So, goals2life.com and there is a sign up page right there where you could sign up for Goals2Life. Right now, we have a 30-day free trial to check into the system. We have community. We have a lot of amazing things. You can also follow us on Instagram or Facebook and our YouTube channel. Very inspired. Lesley has inspired me, okay, another person who is helping me, inspire me to have a YouTube channel, and it's under Wendee Close. So follow the journey of me actually bringing my goals to life, live. And you know, hey on the go. So that's what we'll be doing. And I hope that you guys can all join the Goals2Life movement of actually implementing and executing and achieving your goals. Lesley Logan 34:25  I hope you all do. I think it's really cool. It's nice to have a tool to help you, like you can have all the ideas and all the advice, but like, sometimes we do need a tool, just like my friend Monica is using chatGPT as a tool to pep talk her in the morning, like we it's you don't have to be a superhuman who, like, somehow remembers all these things. You've given us so much already, to be completely honest. But I really want to hear your bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us, babe?Wendee Close 34:52  Okay, all right. So for bold, I want people to own their next level identity, so within Goals2Life they can create that identity through our goal pathways and align it to who they want to become. So I want people to ask themselves, what would my future self do today and actually do it in action. Because we're all about action. Make it executable. The E is executable. We're all about execution. So take small, intentional steps daily. So we'll, in Goals2Life we'll help you break the big goals into micro movements. And so I'm going to ask you to ask yourself, what is one step that I can take today and actually take it? Take the action, and then the I is intrinsic? So align your goals with purpose, as I've talked about a lot, like aligning what you want with a purpose, and make sure it's in alignment with your values and principles. So in Goals2Life, we want you to set goals that will actually matter. So we're going to ask you to ask yourself, why does this matter to me what I want to do? You need to know why it matters to you so you're deeply rooted into the commitment of actually fulfilling what you committed to through your goal. And then the T is target. So set clear, measurable milestones that you can have a target on and in Goals2Life we will turn, , your vague hopes or your ideas into actual, tangible outcomes. And we want you to ask yourself, how will I measure the progress? And in Goals2Life we can help you measure your progress so you can celebrate and actually achieve. Lesley Logan 36:18  I love, at the Be It Pod we celebrate every Friday, and we should be celebrating all the time. We celebrate on Fridays, just in case you didn't take time. I truly love those. I think that, like, I feel like you almost defined the Be It Action Items in a way, it's like, perfect that you know, in a way that, like, I always hope people understand, like, why this podcast exists is just to help you take the next step to be the person you want to be, as if you're already that person, and that's you, literally, Wendee, are a shining example of that, but also what you're creating is like literally the tools people need to do it. So thank you for being you. Thank you for Goals2Life. My Be It Pod listener, what are you gonna do? Be It babe, what are you gonna do? How are you using these tips in your life? What was your favorite takeaway? Make sure you tag Goals2Life. Tag Wendee Close. Tag the Be It Pod. We want to celebrate with you. We want to be part of your journey. We want to know how this is going and send this to a friend who needs to hear it. Because sometimes it's like your friends need to hear it from a different, a different setting, a different, the same words from a different set of voices to help them get out of the rut, take the next step, get into alignment. So thank you, Wendee, for being you and a dear friend. Wendee Close 37:23  One other thing, you are a Goal Expert in Goal Select. So, you guys, we promote people as fabulous as Lesley, and we have experts across the nation. She is our Pilates expert. And she is amazing, as you guys all know, and so she is a huge part of the movement in the physical goal set. So thank you, Lesley, for for believing in Goals2Life and being part of our community and being an expert, also.Lesley Logan 37:47  I'm, it's an honor. I'm so excited. I can't wait to see where we go with this together, like, and that's the coolest thing about like, people like you and myself and Brad and all these other people who we all get to we all get to do this together. You know, even though we're apart, we're like our but our ships can, like, you know, tag on and tug through and like, we can do this together. And that's, that's you, too, as you listen, Be It babe, like you have your friends, if they are growing then you all get to grow together. And that's where things get to be really, really fun. So, everyone, you know what to do. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 38:12  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 39:03  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 39:09  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 39:13  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 39:20  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 39:23  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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Kate is joined by the incredibly beautiful Juliana from Boho Beautiful—yogi, creator, truth-teller, and rebel soul—for a heart expansive, deeply inspiring conversation on what it really means to live an unscripted life.They go beyond the pretty Instagram version of freedom and explore the raw, courageous truth of walking away from the conventional path… and choosing alignment, authenticity, and soul over the perception of safety. Together, we dive into: What it took for Juliana and her partner to leave everything behind and create an expansive lifeThe spiritual initiations that come when you break the rules and trust your own path The power of trusting yourself when the world doesn't understand your choicesWhat's actually waiting for you on the other side of the scriptThis conversation is a love letter to the woman who knows she was made for something different. Who's ready to say no to the life she should live… and yes to the one her soul is starving for.A glimpse into possibilities, even when you're married with kids - you can still live an unscripted life!! The Immersion - April 25- May 2, 2026 https://www.theunscriptdwoman.com/the-immersionTo book a Free Call to explore working with Kate - click the link below: https://calendly.com/expanded-love/exploration-call-cloneAbout the Guest:Juliana Spicoluk is a globally recognized yoga and wellness teacher, author, and visionary co-founder of Boho Beautiful—a conscious lifestyle brand and digital movement that has touched the lives of millions around the world. With over 3 million subscribers on YouTube and over half a billion video views, Juliana has redefined what it means to bring spiritual practice into the modern world, offering a unique blend of yoga, meditation, Pilates, and mindful living that resonates deeply with a global audience. Her journey began after a career-ending injury shifted her path from being an Olympic-level rhythmic gymnast to a lifelong exploration of healing, self-inquiry, and inner transformation. Holding her yoga teacher training certifications from many yoga schools in India and Costa Rica, as well as spending a large amount of time studying mindful meditation practices in Nepal and Tibet, Juliana channels her experiences into content that merges physical movement with deep spiritual intention. Through Boho Beautiful's viral videos, best-selling books, transformational programs, and philanthropic work—including a 52-city charity yoga tour—she has built not just a brand, but a mission-driven platform dedicated to elevating consciousness, empowering others to return to their truth, and living with grace, compassion, and purpose. Alongside all of this, Juliana is also a devoted mother to two children, a role that continually deepens her spiritual practice and fuels her passion for creating a more conscious, loving world.Connect with Juliana:YouTube: @bohobeautifulInstagram: @bohobeautifullifeBoho Beautiful App: https://bohobeautiful.tv/Website: www.bohobeautiful.life

A client has a recently placed stent in their left anterior descending branch of the coronary artery. The therapist isn't clear about safety. What to do—get permission to work? Or get information to work safely? (You get two guesses, and one of them doesn't count.) This episode explores a helpful communication to establish client safety—and an example to us all!   Resources:  I Have a Client Who: Femoral Artery Stent (episode 77) I Have a Client Who: Cardiac Catheter (episode 297) I Have a Client Who: TAVR (episode 465) A Doctor's Note is Not Good Enough (and what is better) online self-paced CE class Helping Clients with Complex Conditions (no date). Available at: https://www.abmp.com/massage-and-bodywork-magazine/helping-clients-complex-conditions (Accessed: 13 June 2025).   Host Bio:                    Ruth Werner is a former massage therapist, a writer, and an NCBTMB-approved continuing education provider. She wrote A Massage Therapist's Guide to Pathology, now in its seventh edition, which is used in massage schools worldwide. Werner is also a long-time Massage & Bodywork columnist, most notably of the Pathology Perspectives column. Werner is also ABMP's partner on Pocket Pathology, a web-based app and quick reference program that puts key information for nearly 200 common pathologies at your fingertips. Werner's books are available at www.booksofdiscovery.com. And more information about her is available at www.ruthwerner.com.      About our Sponsors:    Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com    PMNT: www.pmnt.org   MassageBook: www.massagebook.com   Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                      Website: anatomytrains.com                        Email: info@anatomytrains.com             Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains                       Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA    Precision Neuromuscular Therapy seminars (www.pnmt.org) have been teaching high-quality seminars for more than 20 years. Doug Nelson and the PNMT teaching staff help you to practice with the confidence and creativity that comes from deep understanding, rather than the adherence to one treatment approach or technique.   Find our seminar schedule at pnmt.org/seminar-schedule with over 60 weekends of seminars across the country.   Or meet us online in the PNMT Portal, our online gateway with access to over 500 videos, 37 NCBTMB CEs, our Discovery Series webinars, one-on-one mentoring, and much, much more! All for the low yearly cost of $167.50. Learn more at pnmt.thinkific.com/courses/pnmtportal!    Follow us on social media: @precisionnmt on Instagram or at Precision Neuromuscular Therapy Seminars on Facebook.   MassageBook is offering listeners $50 off when they sign up with coupon code ABMP50. Start your free 30-day trial today and transform your practice with tools designed to increase bookings and streamline client management.   Connect with MassageBook:   Visit their website: MassageBook   Follow MassageBook on Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn  

In this inspiring episode of the Female Empowered Podcast, host Christa Gurka welcomes Erin Canada, the founder of Paradise Pilates in North Carolina. Erin shares how her personal experience with chronic back pain and a love for Pilates led her to launch not one, but three successful studio locations in just 13 months.This conversation dives deep into the transition from instructor to business owner, highlighting the importance of strong systems, hiring the right team, and understanding your business numbers. Erin opens up about her learning curve, the role mentorship played in her journey, and how she created a studio environment that's clean, calming, and client-focused.If you're a wellness professional dreaming of growth—or simply want a peek behind the curtain of rapid studio expansion—this episode is filled with real-life lessons and motivation to take bold, intentional steps forward.Key Takeaways:Erin opened 3 Pilates studios in just over a yearShe focused on aesthetic consistency and creating a welcoming atmosphereSystems and automation helped support rapid growthBusiness mentorship helped her shift from service provider to CEOA supportive team and clear financial insights are essential for scalingCalls to Action:→ Follow Paradise Pilates on Instagram: @paradisepilatesti → Interested in mentorship like Erin? Learn more at: christagurka.com/mentorship → Stay connected with Christa on Instagram: @ChristaGurka → Subscribe to Female Empowered and leave a review if you enjoyed this episodeErin's story proves that big results are possible when you combine passion, strategy, and a willingness to learn.

What if the most powerful thing you could do for your life—and your goals—was to simply start trusting yourself? In this episode, I'm joined by Lesley Logan, a speaker, entrepreneur, and founder of Online Pilates Classes, who brings so much wisdom to the table when it comes to building confidence, tuning into your intuition, and redefining self-care on your own terms. While Lesley is known for her work in the Pilates world, this conversation goes far beyond movement. We talk about what it means to quiet the noise, let go of hustle culture, and create a life that's led by intention—not pressure.

Brian brings us an interesting client who came in preparing to get a hip replacement. Follow along as Brian lays out his assessment, movement drills and what he learned. Following the presentation, Nora and Brian discuss other cases to illustrate how to assess, understand and design hip centric programs for clients with very different symptoms. This is a great example of how to use anatomy and critical reasoning to create positive change!Moving Conversations LIVE in Southern California!  September 13 – 14, 2025 Blue Moon Pilates 24194 Alicia Parkway, Mission Viejo, CA Course include: Movement for Low Back Conditions, Training Upper Body Stability and Pilates and Osteoporosis Register through Blue Moon Pilates at: https://bluemoonpilates.com/workshops We look forward to seeing you there!   Moving Conversation Socials    Brian's Book on Low Back Pain and Conditions:  Back Exercise; Stabilize, Mobilize and Reduce Pain  https://a.co/d/8IUb7L6    Email: movingconvos@gmail.com  IG: @movingconvos  FB: Moving Conversations    Brian  IG: @fit4lifedc  FB: https://www.facebook.com/brianrichey/     Nora  IG: nora.s.john.7  FB: https://www.facebook.com/nora.s.john.7 

Back pain is one of the most common physical challenges people face—yet it's often misunderstood, misdiagnosed, and mismanaged. In this eye-opening episode, Katie Crane breaks down the myths, fears, and practical strategies surrounding back pain in the Pilates studio. With over 80% of people likely to experience back pain at some point in their lives, Katie explores how labels and diagnoses can sometimes do more harm than good. She shares her insights into how Pilates instructors can shift their approach to support healing—by meeting clients with empathy, education, and movement experiences that restore confidence and connection to the body. What You'll Learn in This Episode:

Jesus is delivered into the judgment of Rome, where Pilate realizes Jesus is not guilty, but is willing to condemn Him for the sake of the Jews. We consider this false judgment in our time together.

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In this power-packed episode of The Pilates Business Podcast, host Seran Glanfield dives deep into the five essential traits that distinguish thriving, confident studio owners from those stuck in a cycle of burnout and overwhelm. These aren't surface-level tips—they're the mindset shifts and leadership qualities that drive sustainable growth, financial freedom, and a more balanced life in your Pilates studio or boutique fitness business.Whether you're tired of juggling a million roles or wondering what it really takes to grow a team and scale without chaos, this episode offers a roadmap for transformation. If you've ever felt stuck, overworked, or unsure how to lead effectively—this one's for you.You'll learn:The leadership shift that changes everythingWhy “hustle” isn't the answer (and what to do instead)How to build a team that runs with your visionThe emotional skill most studio owners overlookHow to lean into your strengths (and get help where you need it)This is the kind of insight Seran teaches inside her Thrive program, and it just might be the missing link you've been searching for.Learn more at www.springthree.com/thriveGot a question for Seran? Add it here

Aswe study Luke 23, a good way to recall the events of this chapter is to rememberthat Jesus had seven encounters or conversations with at least seven people orgroups. There was Pilate (vv. 1-25); King Herod (vv. 7-12); Simon the Cyrenian(v. 26); the Jerusalem women (vv. 27-31); the two criminals (vv. 32-43); HisFather (vv.44-49); and Joseph of Arimathea. Whenwe arrive at Luke 23:27-31 Jesus has already gone through terrible beatings andsuffering. At this point, on the way to Golgotha, He is not able to carry Hiscross and Simon of Cyrene is carrying it for Him.  It is now that He has a word for the women ofJerusalem.  Lukeinforms us that “a great multitude of the people followed Him” (v. 27). Publicexecutions drew crowds of spectators, and one involving Jesus would especiallyattract attention. Add to this the fact that Jerusalem was crowded withpilgrims, possibly over a million people could have been in the city at thetime of Passover, so it is not difficult to believe that a "greatmultitude" was following the condemned Man to Calvary. Inthat crowd was a group of women who openly wept and lamented as theysympathized with Jesus and contemplated the terrible spiritual condition oftheir nation. It has been pointed out by Bible commentators, that as far as theGospel records are concerned, no woman was ever an enemy of Jesus. Nor wasJesus ever the enemy of womankind. His example, His teachings, and most of all,His redemption have done much to dignify and elevate women.  Ifyou remember, the news of His birth was shared with a Jewish maiden, His deathwas witnessed by grieving women, and the good news of His resurrection wasannounced first to a woman who had been demon-possessed. Jesusappreciated their sympathy and used it to teach them and us an important lesson(vv. 28-31). While they were weeping over the injustice of one man's death, Jesuswas looking ahead and grieving over the terrible destruction of the entirenation, a judgment that was wholly justified. Jesus had told His disciplesabout this judgment in Luke 19:41-44: “Now as He drew near, He saw the cityand wept over it, saying, "If you had known, even you, especially in thisyour day, the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden fromyour eyes. For days will come upon you when your enemies will build anembankment around you, surround you and close you in on every side, and levelyou, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave inyou one stone upon another, because you did not know the time of yourvisitation."  Jesuslooking ahead, even on His way to the cross, knew it would be the women andchildren who would suffer the most, a fact supported by history. Just fortyyears later in 70AD, when Titus and the Romans army surrounded Jerusalem, they attemptedto starve the Jews into submission. It has been noted by historians that hungrymen, defending their city, took food from their suffering wives and childrenand even killed and ate their own flesh and blood to keep enough strength tofight. It was a terrible terrible time of judgment that Jesus was speaking of. Thenation of Israel was like a "green tree" during the years when Jesuswas on earth. It was a time of blessing and opportunity, and it should havebeen a time of fruitfulness. But the nation rejected Him and became like a"dry tree," fit only for the fire. Jesus often would have gatheredHis people together, but they would not (Matthew 23:37-39). In condemning Him,they only condemned themselves. Wemight paraphrase His words: "If the Roman authorities do this to One whois innocent, what will they do to you who are guilty? When the day of judgmentarrives, can there be any escape for you?" Myfriend, Jesus has also warned us of another day of judgment coming. Will you beprepared? Godbless!

Psalm 10:1 ESV 1 Why, O Lord, do you stand far away?  Why do you hide yourself in times of trouble? PSALM 73:3-5 NI 3 For I envied the arrogant     when I saw the prosperity of the wicked. 4 They have no struggles;     their bodies are healthy and strong. 5 They are free from common human burdens;     they are not plagued by human ills.   PSALM 73:13 NIV 13 Surely in vain I have kept my heart pure     and have washed my hands in innocence.   JOB 21:7-9 NIV 7 Why do the wicked live on,     growing old and increasing in power? 8 They see their children established around them,     their offspring before their eyes. 9 Their homes are safe and free from fear;     the rod of God is not on them.   ECCLESIASTES 8:14 NIV 14 There is something else meaningless that occurs on earth: the righteous who get what the wicked deserve, and the wicked who get what the righteous deserve. This too, I say, is meaningless.  The reason we can't make sense of evil and suffering and brokenness in the world, is because we were never meant to.   GENESIS 2:15 ESV 15 The Lord God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to work it and keep it.   LUKE 13:1-5 NIV 1 Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. 2 Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? 3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. 4 Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.”   "Don't settle for simplistic answers to complex problems."   LUKE 13:4-5 ESV 4 Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them: do you think that they were worse offenders than all the others who lived in Jerusalem? 5 No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.”   "Don't waste your life!"   JOHN 9:1-3 ESV 1 As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 And his disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” 3 Jesus answered, “It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him.   “She is grateful for her dad's size and his fists, which she has never understood until now. She knows what fists are for now." -CHARLOTTE MCCONAGHY, Wild Dark Shore

In this powerful episode of the Six Weeks to Fitness podcast, I sit down with Leslie Hocker—a globally recognized entrepreneur, speaker, coach, and wellness expert with decades of experience across personal development, skincare, healthy longevity, and network marketing. Leslie's story is nothing short of extraordinary. From becoming one of the youngest female executives in the petroleum industry, to launching Houston's first Pilates studio, to helping build a $200 million skincare business in just two years—Leslie is the definition of reinvention and resilience. And at 70 years young, she's not slowing down anytime soon. Key Takeaways from This Interview: 1. Longevity Isn't Luck—It's a Lifestyle Leslie's mother is 101 years old, completely medication-free, and still lives independently. How? Because in her 70s, she started working out with a personal trainer. That decision, Leslie says, is what helped her mom stay strong and lucid well into her 100s. It also inspired Leslie to get serious about her own health habits—starting with squats. “Squats are my best friend now,” she says, “because I want to be healthy at 100 too.” 2. The Real Wealth Is Health Leslie's journey into wellness began when a billionaire mentor told her and other six- and seven-figure earners: “If you don't have your health, it doesn't matter how much money you make.” That message hit home—and it sparked a lifelong passion for fitness, nutrition, and skincare. 3. Skincare That Works—And Sells Leslie is the force behind a revolutionary plant-based skincare line that includes a natural alternative to Botox and fillers. The topical treatment, which she uses daily, retrains facial muscles to lift and plump without injections. The results? A 100-million-dollar product launch in year one—and 200 million in year two. 4. Why Most People Fail at Business—and How to Succeed Leslie keeps it real: success doesn't happen overnight. “You're not going to make $10,000/month in 90 days unless you've already been doing the work for 20 years,” she says. But with mentorship, consistency, and compounding effort, you can create a business that pays you while you sleep. 5. Reinvention Is the Secret to Longevity—In Life and Business Whether it was pivoting from oil executive to Pilates pioneer, or jumping into the wellness world with zero experience, Leslie has always believed that “life is a participation sport.” Her philosophy? There's no finish line. We all have a next level—physically, financially, emotionally—and we should chase it with energy and purpose. 6. Real Transformation Starts with Real Products and Real People From helping an 80-year-old earn an all-expense-paid trip and car bonus, to coaching a 21-year-old student earning thousands monthly online, Leslie's approach is inclusive, grounded, and practical. Who Should Listen? - Women over 40 looking for natural ways to look and feel younger - Aspiring entrepreneurs who want to earn additional income on their own terms - Caregivers supporting aging parents and seeking realistic longevity strategies - Anyone tired of burnout and ready for reinvention

* You can get the sermon note sheet at: http://family-bible-church.org/2025Messages/25Jul13.pdf * We have spent the past five messages examining the 22nd chapter of Luke. * As a reminder, Luke stated from the beginning that he was writing this account in order "that you may know the certainty of those things in which you were instructed." He declared that he had performed personal research into the affairs of Christ including interviewing those who were eye witnesses. These things which was writing about changed his life. He went from Luke the physician to Luke the evangelist! * As we have examined chapter 22, you can see that the theme of the chapter has been the betrayal of Christ. * Last week, we saw the culmination of the betrayal by Judas Iscariot. Today, we see the step next of this betrayal with that of the Jewish leaders. * Today, we examine the "judicial process" by which Jesus was tried and condemned. But contained within these mock trials are two proclamations which are extreme importance - one by Jesus and one by Pilate. * This message was presented by Bob Corbin on July 13, 2025 at Family Bible Church in Martinez, Georgia.

Jesusis finally condemned by Pilate and sent to be crucified on Golgotha. Accordingto John's Gospel, Jesus is forced to bear His cross. “And He, bearingHis cross, went out to a place called the Place of a Skull, which is called inHebrew, Golgotha" (John 19:16-18). (By the way, Johnis the only Gospel that does not mention Simon of Cyrene by name.) Matthew'sGospel tells it this way: “Now asthey came out, they found a man of Cyrene, Simon by name. " (Matthew 27:31-33). Mark'sGospel gives us some additional information about Simon of Cyrene. “And whenthey had mocked Him, they took the purple off Him, put His own clothes on Him,and led Him out to crucify Him. Then they compelled a certain man, Simon aCyrenian, the father of Alexander and Rufus, as he was coming out of thecountry and passing by, to bear His cross. And they brought Him to the placeGolgotha, which is translated, Place of a Skull” (Mark 15:20-22) Historyalso gives us some information about the country of Cyrene where Simon wasfrom: Jews began migrating to Cyrene as early as the 3rd century BCE, primarilyunder Ptolemy I's policy to strengthen Cyrenaica, with further migrationsoccurring during the Roman period. The reasons for migration included politicalstrategies (Ptolemaic resettlement), economic opportunities (Cyrene'sprosperity and trade), religious connections (ties to Jerusalem), and, in laterperiods, escape from persecution or instability in other regions. By the timeof Simon of Cyrene in the 1st century CE, the Jewish community in Cyrene waswell-established, influential, and closely linked to Jerusalem, as evidenced bytheir synagogue and presence at major Jewish festivals. Cyrene was located inpresent day Libya next to Egypt. Itwas a part of the prisoner's humiliation that he carry his own cross to theplace of execution, so when Jesus left Pilate's hall, He was carrying eitherthe cross or the crossbeam (John 19:17). Apparently, He was unable to go on,for the soldiers had to "draft" Simon of Cyrene to carry the crossfor Him. (This was a legal Roman procedure. See Matt. 5:41.) When you considerall that Jesus had endured since His arrest in the Garden, it is not difficultto imagine Him falling under the load. But there is something more involved:carrying the cross was a sign of guilt, and our Lord was not guilty! Thousandsof Jews came to Jerusalem from other nations to celebrate the feasts (Acts2:5-11), and Simon was among them. He had traveled over 800 miles from Africato celebrate Passover, and now he was being humiliated on a most holy day! Whatwould he say to his family when he got home? But might have looked to Simon like a catastrophe turned out to be awonderful opportunity, for it brought him in contact with Jesus Christ. Simonprobably had come into the city of Jerusalem to attend the 9 a.m. prayermeeting in the temple, but got caught up in the crowd following Jesus to Hiscrucifixion. But God's providence place him in the right place at exactly theright time. It was then that the soldiers “compelled” him to carry the cross ofJesus.  Wehave good reason to believe that Simon was converted because of this encounterwith Jesus. Mark identified him as "the father of Alexander andRufus" (Mark 15:21), two men that Mark assumed his Roman readers wouldknow. A Christian named Rufus was greeted by Paul in Romans 16:13, and it ispossible that he was the son of Simon of Cyrene. Apparently Simon and his twosons became well-known Christians who were held in honor in the church. BeforeSimon met Jesus, he had religion and devotion; but after he met Jesus, he hadreality and salvation. He did both a physical and spiritual "aboutface" that morning, and it transformed his life. God can still useunexpected and difficult situations, even humiliating situations, to bringpeople to the Savior. What is your story?

– “Can we keep one?” Mitzi barked, poked her nose through the fence, and sniffed her wooers. Suzanne Cottrell, a member of the Taste Life Twice Writers and NC Writers' Network, lives with her husband in rural Granville County, NC. An outdoor enthusiast and retired teacher, she enjoys reading, writing, knitting, hiking, Pilates, and belly dancing. Her prose has appeared in numerous journals and anthologies, including the Personal Story Publishing Project, Inwood Indiana Press, Quillkeepers Press, and Parks and Points. She's the author of three poetry chapbooks: Gifts of the Seasons, Autumn and Winter; Gifts of the Seasons, Spring and Summer; and Scarred Resilience; and Nature Calls Outside My Window, A Collection of Poems and Stories. www.suzanneswords.com

In this episode of SparX, Mukesh Bansal explores the fast-growing world of Pilates with Rishabh Telang, Business Head at CULT, and Kavitha Srinivasan, one of India's foremost Pilates educators. Together, they dive into how this century-old practice is becoming a modern-day fitness essential.Rishabh shares why CULT is going all-in on Pilates, the incredible reception from users, and how the brand plans to scale from a single studio to 100+ across India. Kavitha breaks down the science and history of Pilates.They discuss how Pilates improves posture, builds deep core strength, prevents injury, and helps people move better for life. Whether you're a gym-goer, a fitness beginner, or someone struggling with back pain or burnout, this conversation will make you rethink how you train.A refreshing take on movement, longevity, and India's evolving fitness culture.

Up tothis point Jesus had three unfair trials before the Jews; before Annas, thefather-in-law of the high priest Caiaphas, and also Caiaphas at his house, andthen before the Sanhedrin. Now, in the early morning hours between six and nineo'clock on Friday morning, Jesus is taken before Pilate. Pilate has his firsttrial with Jesus and finds no fault in Him after questioning Him personally inthe Praetorium. Pilate sent Jesus to King Herod Antipas where Jesus is againquestioned, mock and ridiculed. Jesus is silent and does not respond to Herod whothen sends Him back to Pilate (v. 11). Inthese verses, 13-25, Pilate proves to be a coward. It is interesting to note thatmany Christian sources describe Pilate as “the model of a coward” who knew thecrucifixion was wrong but acted out of fear of political repercussions, such aslosing favor with Emperor Tiberius or inciting a riot. C.S. Lewis is referencedin these sources, suggesting Pilate represents “men without chests”—peopleunwilling to pursue truth, leading to cowardice and injustice. The fact thatHerod backed Pilate's decision would not have impressed the Jews very much,because they despised Herod almost as much as they despised the Romans. WhenJesus is returned to Pilate he again meets with the Jewish leaders andannounced for the second time that he did not find Jesus guilty of the chargesthey had made against Him (vv. 13-15). Since it was customary at Passover forthe governor to release a prisoner, Pilate offered the Jews a compromise: hewould chastise Jesus and let Him go. He had another prisoner on hand, Barabbas,but Pilate was sure the Jews would not want him to be released. After all,Barabbas was a robber (John 18:40), a murderer, and an insurrectionist (Luke23:19). He may have been a leader of the Jewish Zealots who at that time wasworking for the overthrow of Rome. Severaltimes Luke notes that it is the chief priest and rulers of the people that aredemanding that Christ is guilty and should be crucified. We must not think thatthe general populace of the city was gathered before Pilate and crying out forthe blood of Jesus, though a curious crowd no doubt gathered. It was primarilythe official religious leaders of the nation, the chief priests in particular(Luke 23:23), who shouted Pilate down and told him to crucify Jesus. To saythat the same people who cried "Hosanna!" on Palm Sunday ended upcrying "Crucify Him!" on Good Friday is not completely accurate. Finally,after vacillating back and forth and at least three times proclaiming Jesus tobe innocence, Pilate realized that his mishandling of the situation had almostcaused a riot, and a Jewish uprising was the last thing he wanted duringPassover. So, he called for water and washed his hands before the crowd,affirming his innocence (Matt. 27:24-25). Pilate proves to be a compromiser anda coward, who was "willing to content the people" (Mark 15:15).Barabbas was released and Jesus was condemned to die on a Roman cross. Pilatewas a complex character. He openly said that Jesus was innocent, yet hepermitted Him to be beaten and condemned Him to die. He carefully questionedJesus and even trembled at His answers, but the truth of the Word did not makea difference in his decisions. He wanted to be popular and not right; he wasmore concerned about reputation than he was character. What a sad state to bein! We must be careful that we don't follow in his footsteps.  Itwould also be good for us to remember what Jesus said in Mark 8:35-38, “Forwhoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life forMy sake and the gospel's will save it. For what will it profit a man if hegains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give inexchange for his soul? For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in thisadulterous and sinful generation, of him the Son of Man also will be ashamedwhen He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels." 

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In this Fuck Yeah Friday episode, Lesley Logan reminds us to pause and acknowledge our growth. She shares the story of record-breaking astronaut Sunita Williams, celebrates a huge community win from Heather Ingram, and talks about intentionally taking time to rest before a busy tour. It's your reminder that wins, big or small, deserve to be honored.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:47  Hello, you guys. Happy Fuck Yeah Friday. Welcome. How are you? This is where we do a quick, quick episode celebrating your wins. You might, you might hear your win, and it's going to be later than you sent it, so it'll be a reminder of a win you had, and you get to hear a win of mine, and hopefully that helps you see that there's like, wins happening all the time, and then some inspiration and affirmation. Lesley Logan 1:06  So okay, so I saved this back when everyone was, like, up in a tizzy about the all those rich women who went to space, and of course, there were some people who went on there who are actual scientists and have done some amazing things in this world to, like, change things. So we don't discount that there were some epic things going on there, but I remember it happening around the same time that Sunita Williams came back from she was there for 286 days. Okay, so we're gonna talk about her. I'm just gonna read the actual thing. The actual post. This is from Female Quotient, and I'll put the link in the show notes. But she was supposed to go to space for like, eight days, and ended up there for nine months. And so I remember this happened. I'm like, what if she, like, parked and just like, long term parking. Like, you went away for eight days, so you have, like, what a dog set up for eight days, but now you're gone for nine months. Like, just, can you imagine all the things? Like, do you have? All the things you need? I'm just hopefully, I don't know if she has a cycle. I'm just, like, a little worried about that. Anyways. So meet and welcome home, obviously, she's been home for a bit, but let's just talk about her, because we need to, she did not get enough press, and we have to, let's do that, Be It babes together. Sunita Williams, record-breaking astronaut, pilot and trailblazer, who returned to Earth after 286 in space with fellow astronaut, Butch Wilmore. One of the most experienced spacewalkers in the world, she holds the record for the most spacewalks by a woman. Williams, originally from Ohio, was a U.S. Navy helicopter pilot who logged 3000 flight hours and 30 different aircrafts before becoming a NASA astronaut. Fast forward eight years, and she took her first space flight aboard the ISS. Her career accomplishments are out of this world and growing. Spent 608 plus days in space, ran the Boston Marathon in space on a treadmill, oh, my God, completed nine spacewalks totaling over 60 hours, was the first person to pilot a spacecraft using only touch screen controls., was the first woman to command the International Space Station twice, among the first astronauts chosen for NASA's Artemis missions, aiming to bring humans to the moon. More Fun Facts, during her most recent mission, because of her high speed, 28,000 kilometer per hour and low gravity, Sunita technically experienced time slower than us on Earth. She grew space lettuce, helping NASA study space food production, because the ISS orbits Earth every 90 minutes, she witnessed 16 sunrises and 16 sunsets per day. Oh, my God, so Sunita Williams shows us that strength, curiousity and resilience can really take you places. Sunita, thanks for being a badass. Thank you for your 286 days on, you know, up there and like, what an inconvenience. And also, like, for just like, I mean, not being scared to do, like, some crazy stuff, like, you're just, we need more. Like, that's the news I want to hear. Why didn't I hear that? Why do I have to hear about like, Katy Perry going to space like, I don't really care. Anyways, that's just me. Lesley Logan 3:48  Okay, now it's time for one of your wins. Heather Ingram. I had an opportunity to sub a bunch of hours at a studio this week, and had two new clients in my studio as well. I had some moments of awe at how more comfortable, confident and knowledgeable I am as an instructor, and I said to myself, self, you're a great instructor. Will there always be more to learn and apply? Absolutely. But after pursuing this passion the past seven years of teaching, I'm so much more confident, and I'm attracting a great client tribe, and I'm more in tune with listening to my gut and being in practice versus perfection with clients my self practice and my business. Thanks to all the communities in Agency, eLevate, OPC, I feel grateful to know what it feels like to be firing a little bit more on all cylinders, and some days will always just be hard, but everything feels a bit better. Plus, the sun has been out in Seattle for eight days straight, so maybe that's it, too. Heather Ingram, yes, girl, yes. Oh my God. I love it so much. I love it so much. I think that's like, a huge that's such a big win. I'm just going to leave it with one win from you all just because I just want to let that all sink in. Like, how many times have you been like, investing in learning, investing in growing, investing in time and energy and understanding something? And how many of those times you sit back and go, whoa. Look what I, look how far I've come. Like, how often have you looked in the rear view mirror, like, what a badass am I? I'm like, celebrate before you hit that next peak. Like, Heather, your win, I think truly is one of the biggest wins we could have. Like, I think sometimes we think, oh, I don't have a big win because I haven't been to space yet. But like, understanding, acknowledging and celebrating like that you're doing a badass job. That is, like, probably one of the biggest wins ever. And I'm so, so stoked for you. So thank you for sharing that. Lesley Logan 5:23  All right, now it's time for one of my wins. So, you guys, I'm currently in Los Angeles visiting friends, and that's my win. I'm about to go on a big tour, our summer tour, and you'll hear more about that in the future episodes. But I have had, like, I've tried many different things on, like, oh, let's do a vacation at the end of the tour. Let's try to do some days off in the tour. And we are doing that. But most of the people are like, oh, I couldn't go on vacation before something, because, like, I have that thing on my mind. Let me just tell you, yes, the tour is on my mind, and yes, there is promo happening about it. But also I like, gotta be honest, I'm so excited to take some well-rested spa time before I go on tour. So I'm going on a spa day with some girlfriends. I'm seeing some friends I haven't seen in a long time, because we don't go to go to L.A. as often as possible, as we used to, like, just seemed like things were easier when you couldn't travel anywhere else, but where you could drive. Like, we went to L.A. almost monthly. And so here we are, like, like, I don't know when the last time we were there, so I'm just super, super excited, and that's my win. So if you plan some time off for yourself, you need to pat yourself on the back. Give yourself a high five. You just had a win. Lesley Logan 6:28  All right. Affirmation, affirmation. Be good to yourself. Be good to yourself. Be good to yourself. Are you being good to yourself? Like, what? Yes, be good to yourself. You're a badass, you're amazing. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 6:46  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 7:27  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 7:33  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 7:38  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 7:43  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 7:47  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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Jacoby Landry, the new owner of Lafayette's oldest indoor shopping center, Northgate Mall, shares his vision to bring hope, commerce, and fresh energy to North Lafayette. Jacoby's energy and can-do attitude is a beacon of light for a community waiting to see how he will transform the mall into "The Hub." Jacoby, owner of JL Construction and Pont Breaux Plaza in Breaux Bridge, is the first local owner of Northgate Mall in years. Originally developed by Isan Fontenot, Dr. Daniel Voorheis and Joseph Angelle who opened it in August 1969, Jacoby paid $2.8 million for the property. His journey started under the wing of his grandfather, a framer, and his father, who ran dirt construction, trucking businesses, and in the oil field industry. “My entrepreneurial skills came from my dad. He's always been a business owner.” After studying engineering at UL Lafayette, Jacoby discovered his love for business and numbers, opening a tax office in his early twenties. Real estate soon became his passion, with his first major commercial property purchased from cousin Dominick Williams (formerly Dominick Davis of LSU and the Houston Texans). “There's nothing that I didn't try,” Jacoby shared, reflecting on his entrepreneurial spirit. In 2016, Jacoby earned his residential contractor's license, followed by obtaining his commercial license a year later. “I went from building custom homes to developing my own lots and building spec homes and selling them.” His interest in North Lafayette grew when he purchased seven acres on Louisiana Avenue at Butcher Switch Road in 2020 with plans for a med spa and gym. Facing zoning challenges, Jacoby joined LEDA's Elevate North Lafayette program, where he connected with Monte Anderson, a Dallas-based developer. Monte's advice led Jacoby to consider revitalizing existing properties, prompting Jacoby to set his sights on Northgate Mall. "I was always infatuated with the I-10 and I-49 crossing. I just always had it in my mind that it (development) was going to come to the North one day." “Before I started the program, I had goals of doing something bigger, but they really pushed me to actually go do it. They gave me the courage and knowledge to do it.” Once Jacoby walked the property, he couldn't sleep at night thinking about its potential. “Ever since the day I walked on the property, I couldn't sleep at night, thinking about it. I think I want to do it.” Despite initial nerves, Jacoby embraced the risk, saying, “I'm a risk taker. I could do this.” Jacoby Landry at the Northgate Mall in June 2025. Photo by Brad Kemp, Acadiana Advocate. Jacoby is rebranding Northgate Mall as “The Hub,” inspired by Lafayette's nickname, Hub City, and the I-10/I-49 cloverleaf, which will be reflected in its new logo. The redevelopment will focus on mixed-use commerce, green spaces, and lighting to ensure safety and create a welcoming atmosphere. “I want to change the whole theme of the mall. I want to have trees, green space, make it nice, have a lot of lighting and make it feel safe.” Contrary to negative perceptions, Jacoby says, “Statistically, there's no crime at the mall. There's more crime in other places. The mall's been dead for so long, there's nothing to steal.” Jacoby's vision includes a grocery store, children's entertainment options, and a health club and spa in the former Planet Fitness space in partnership with his sister, Rachel McCorvey of BeLuxxe Health and Wellness Center. “Our whole motto is to add ten years to your life.” The facility will feature a nutritionist, weight management services, Botox, IV drips, sauna, hot tub, salt room, cold plunge, a health bar, and two indoor pickleball courts. Pilates and boxing fitness will also be offered, bringing Red's Health Club-like amenities to North Lafayette on a smaller, community-focused scale. Jacoby emphasized his commitment to supporting current tenants, saying, “They've been a blessing… I came to introduce myself to ...

The producers have taken over! Nah! We love these guys and thought that while we are off, you should give them a little listen too! You can hear them on Nova 8pm Sundays and they also have their own podcast too! Jess and Chae are unhinged in the best possible way. This week, they confess to mortifying moments they’ll never live down, including a Pilates class incident. Dive into what makes someone “cool” with help from Gen Z Producer Oli, and reveal the bizarre things they do when no one’s watching (like Chae’s chipmunk singing debut... Iconic!) Plus, they break down why a true crime podcast theme song made them want to call the police and someone spent over $6,000 on takeaway burritos! You can find the Jess and Chae podcast here and on your fav podcast app - Leave them 5 stars and a review and follow them on TikTok @jessandchaeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this recap episode, Lesley and Brad explore the foundational role of our feet in overall body health. Reflecting on Lesley's conversation with board-certified chiropractor and co-founder of Gait Happens, Dr. Jenifer Perez, they unpack the surprising impact foot function has on posture, mobility, and even mental health. You'll learn why toe strength matters, how modern shoes may be hurting you, and simple, effective steps to reclaim your foot health from the ground up.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:The connection between foot function and whole-body movement.How toe strength directly affects your risk of falling.The hidden impact of modern footwear on foot dysfunction.How foot pain can lead to emotional and cognitive decline.How to shop more intentionally for shoes that actually support you.Episode References/Links:eLevate Workout and Q&A - https://lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlistAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniOPC Summer Tour - https://opc.me/tourUK Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukCambodia October 2025 Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comSubmit your questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsGait Happens Affiliate Link - https://gaithappens.com?ref=mwe4ndk (Code: "LESLEY") If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:59  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the grounding convo I had with Dr. Jenifer Perez in our last episode. If you haven't yet watched that episode, listen to that episode. You, your feet are missing out, and that means your whole body is missing out. Brad Crowell 0:59  Gait Happens. Lesley Logan 1:10  I am so excited that this is finally in your ears, you guys. I can't even, I've been waiting for this to come out. Anyways, they're really, really amazing. But before you get into your feet, today is July 10th 2025 and it's Global Energy Independence Day. We observe Global Energy Independence Day on July 10th yearly. It aims to raise awareness about the importance of alternative fuels. We are currently using fossil fuels as our sources, and they need replacing. Fossil fuels are non renewable and require a very long time, millions of years to form. They also are a source of pollution. On this day, on this day, we raise awareness against fossil fuels and focus on finding alternative sources that are renewable and relatively non-polluting source of energy. Michael D. Antonovich, a member of the L.A. County Board of Supervisors. Brad Crowell 2:16  Antonovich. Lesley Logan 2:17  Antonovich. Brad Crowell 2:18  Antonovich. Lesley Logan 2:18  Well, I think you could have done either way. Yeah. L.A. County Board of Supervisors started this day in 2006. Brad Crowell 2:25  Good for him. Lesley Logan 2:25  I know. And so we should all so do you know? Just like, just look at what you can, you know, obviously, some don't come at me. I know some of you live in places where you can't have electric car because it's going to be negative 30 and, you know, whatever, and that's hard. But like, what can't what what renewable resources can you use? You know, like, what can you switch out? Or how, like, what can you reduce or what can you be more thoughtful of? Maybe, instead of driving to work every day, you carpool with people, you know, just like things like that, because, like our friends, we've talked about them before, they take each other's kids to school. So instead of two cars going to the same school from the same neighborhood every day, they have one. Brad Crowell 3:05  Yeah, I love that. I mean, also too, you know what the grid taking more abuse because things are getting hotter and colder, it's important to have energy independence, even for your house. Yeah. How do we do that? You know how my parents used to do it? Firewood, you know? I mean, that's creating smoke when they're burning it. But I don't think there's that. I don't think there's a a full way out of non-pollution, because batteries take, you know, an effort to mine and make, but, but like, you know, fossil fuels also take energy to mine and make, mine and form and stuff like that. to Lesley Logan 3:34  People had to come out but, like, oh, well, what about the bat the electric car battery, and how long it takes. And it's like, okay, but the ozone layer, like the ozone layer, guys? Brad Crowell 3:46  Yeah. I mean, there's still a lot of issue with getting the materials to make the batteries themselves. But, you know, I think that there's, it's inevitable we need to transition away from what we've been doing for the past 100 years that has actually damaged our planet. Lesley Logan 4:00  And also, fight with the cities to make sure they have public transportation that is easier to use, because, like, if you could take a train or a bus rather than co-drive your car. Yeah, yeah. I'm not saying that you don't, like, we don't have electric cars, but what I am saying is, like, we also don't drive every day. You know, like we there's a certain thing that we what can we be thoughtful about? You know, like, how can we be thoughtful? We talked about this other day, about, like, the plants that you plant, like, are they native plants so that they don't need as much water, like, all these different things, so that, you know, you could just, we can keep this fucking world somewhat livable. Brad Crowell 4:36  Keep this world. Global Energy Independence Day is today, July 10th.Lesley Logan 4:41  All right. Brad Crowell 4:42  Yesterday, we hosted the eLevate workout. So if you missed it, the replay is available on the website. It's a workout that you could take for free. The reason that we hosted that workout is so that we could also answer questions that you actually might have about Lesley's mentorship program. It's a nine month program. It's called eLevate. It's specifically for Pilates teachers to help them tie everything together when it comes to this Pilates method that we have inherited here from from our dear Joe Pilates guy. Lesley Logan 5:10  Our dear Joe. Brad Crowell 5:11  Our dear Joe. The reality is that the way that marketing has taken the world by storm when it comes to Pilates is that most people just think Pilates is one of the many pieces of equipment that are involved in the system of Pilates, and they just don't know all of the other pieces. And often what happens in our training is that there's a major focus on one or two pieces of equipment, and people don't see the bigger picture. And so during eLevate, it allows you the opportunity to dive in on the Cadillac, the chairs, the barrels, and then, of course, also the Reformer and the mat. But you know, it brings it all together. Lesley Logan 5:47  It and it's even if you've like, I want to highlight it brings it all together. Even if you've learned all these things, are you using them as a system? Brad Crowell 5:54  Sure. Lesley Logan 5:54  Because that's something that, like, I think, is the most mind-blowing part of it all for the eLevators is to, like, see how all these exercises work together. And it's not like I'm doing Reformer Pilates, I'm doing Tower Pilates, I'm doing Wunda Chair Pilates. You're doing Pilates. Brad Crowell 6:09  I only do Toe Corrector Pilates, people, okay.Lesley Logan 6:11  Well, on this episode, I think we can be okay with that. All right. Next week, July 17th, Agency Mini is back. This is for Pilates instructors and studio owners who run their own business or want to run their own business, not for the Pilates employees, love you, but you there's not. Brad Crowell 6:29  Well, you can come in and join us. There's no reason you can't do that, but you're going to feel frustrated because you don't have control to adjust the things that we're going to be discussing.Lesley Logan 6:39  Yeah, or you can come because, you know you want to be doing that. Brad Crowell 6:42  That's right. I was gonna I was gonna argue it's still valuable, because maybe that's what you want to do in the future, is open up your own space, or have a home studio, or take some clients on the side, where you are in control of what you're charging. Lesley Logan 6:53  It's also okay to love being an employee like we love (inaudible). Brad Crowell 6:55  Totally is, 100%. Lesley Logan 6:57  So in Agency Mini, it's three days. We'll have a live webinar. We'll have a day where you do your homework, you can choose to use the Lesley on Demand tool. And then we'll have an office hours day complete with breath work. And there is two days of replay. So even if you are busy the 17th and 19th of 17th through 19th of July, you'll have two extra days for those replays. Brad Crowell 6:57  Three. 21st and 22nd of replays. Lesley Logan 7:17  Look how generous you are. That clearly was not something I said. So anyways, you guys, look at that. And if you go to prfit.biz/mini you can sign up. It's 62.50 right now. But there's ways to get coaching call with us. Even though you're not an Agency member, there's a lot of different little extra goodies in there.Brad Crowell 7:29  Yeah, I mean, 62.50 the value of the overall value is 980 bucks, y'all, we're set we're offering it to you for 62.50, so go to prfit.biz that's profit without the O dot biz slash mini.Lesley Logan 7:48  And then in a couple weeks, we leave for summer tour.Brad Crowell 7:51  I'm so excited this, y'all, Lesley and I have had a mission to make the van hospitable in more extreme weather, and we've been able to pull it off. We finally got an air conditioner heater inside of the van. So that. Lesley Logan 8:05  Yeah, because we had a fan before for last summer tour. And let me just tell you, if it's 100 degrees out and the fan is just sucking out hot air, it's not really cold.Brad Crowell 8:15  It's not bringing in any cold air. It's bringing in what's outside. So, in this case, we actually now have an AC unit and heater, so when we're in the cold, we can kick it on. When we're in the heat, we can kick it on. And so that's been really, really exciting. And we're gonna kick those tires, as it were, on this tour. It's 4500 miles. We're gonna be gone for 25 days, and we're gonna be doing our very first international tour, y'all, we're going up into Canada. We're going to hit three cities up in Canada. We're going to hit another 13 cities in the United States, and we can't wait to meet you in person. We're going to take Bayon with us. You get to hang with him, and he's just so fun. So go to opc.me/tour that's opc.me/tour.Lesley Logan 8:58  And there's a virtual option on this tour as well. So if you can't go to this in person, there are two workshops that are virtually we will be doing hybrid. And so we invite you, if you're filling the FOMO, to sign up for those. Brad Crowell 9:09  And if you're trying to figure out where they are, they're in Calgary. Okay, so when you go to opc.me/tour, click on the Calgary stop in there, you'll see there's two workshops. They're going to be those virtual workshops. Good point. Love that. It is the first time we've ever offered that available to everybody. So that's, that's a big deal. So check that out. All right. Next up, we are going to be in the U.K.Lesley Logan 9:10  We're still touring. It's just a different tour, instead of the OPC Summer Tour, it's the U.K. Mullet Tour, and it's business in the front and Pilates in the back. So there's business, like life-type workshop in the morning and then Pilate workshops in the daytime, plus a class if you are there's two locations. You can go to Leeds or Essex or both. There's only one workshop that crosses over and you want to go to opc.me/uk there are day passes for the Essex stop, because that is during the week. Yep, we're doing a workshop on a Tuesday and a Wednesday, because sometimes that's the best day. And then we have the weekend, the Saturday, Sunday options are at the Leeds location and that that only has a couple spots left. So opc.me/uk to get your spots for that.Brad Crowell 10:10  And then finally, come join us in Cambodia. We'll be there in October. It's going to be just an amazing trip. We're really, really looking forward to it. It's going to be one of those, like, markers in your life, where you get to look back on and go, remember when it's going to be one of those, like, literally, we have people who have gone on this trip, and then they've talked about it so much when they got home that they came back with their friends the next year. It's happened three times now over the years. Lesley Logan 10:38  Three times. Brad Crowell 10:38  Three different times we've had repeat visitors, because it's just one of those trips that is mind-blowing. So, crowsnestretreats.com. Come do Pilates. Come eat amazing food. Meet awesome people and actually take a break from life. Take a retreat. Take a retreat. Come join us. All right, before we get into this great gait conversation that we have with Jenifer Perez, trying to be cute there, we had a question, and it was from @MailSandyMurali from YouTube asks, "Can you talk about flat cervical neck or herniation in cervical areas and the effect of exercises such as jackknife?Lesley Logan 11:16  Okay, so the Jackknife exercise is one of many exercises and Pilates that you go overhead. And so if you have stuff going on with your neck, like herniation, you don't, it's not for you. Brad Crowell 11:27  Not allowed. Don't do it. Lesley Logan 11:28  No. So if you have a flat neck, and there's no pain or contraindications, like you just have, like a military spine, yeah, it's just like Brad. Brad Crowell 11:37  Brad has this. Lesley Logan 11:38  You, you can do overhead exercises, that being said, they're going to be much harder, because we've got to be able to flex your thoracic spine and stand on those shoulders so you, so Jackknife does not it no overhead exercise should be weight on your neck at all. It's not like a shoulder stand in yoga, like there's no and actually there's no weight on your neck there you're using blankets, if you do it correctly, to be up on your shoulders, but there's no weight on your neck. You are on your shoulders. But typically, if you have a herniation of the neck, have to be mindful of the things you're doing with your shoulders, and especially the weight you're putting there, because it's very easy for you to strain that, right? So, so if you have a flat cervical neck, and there's no issues, no conjugations, we just have to really build up your shoulder stability. You can stand on that. But if you have anything going on, fusions, herniation, stenosis, things like that, with your neck, guess what you get to do, so many other exercises, so many. Brad Crowell 12:33  499 other exercises.Lesley Logan 12:35  Yeah, yeah, double. Brad Crowell 12:36  Well, any of them that are not going upside down in the back. Lesley Logan 12:39  Well, and also, Jackknife is a flex like a dynamic exercise, where you flex your spine, and then you stand on your shoulders, and then you guide everything down with your core, and then you work the legs away. So double straight leg stretch is great for you. Elephant is great for you. Up stretch up stretch combo is going to be good for you if you can get to extension. But up stretch for sure. So, like, there's just so many so don't ever, ever let overhead exercises like being outside of your practice make you go, oh, I'll never be advanced. No, an advanced practitioner means that even beginner exercises are hard for you, so just omit those things that are overhead and replace them. Like if you're doing OPC classes, you'd replace Jackknife with an exercise that was challenging for you. Boom, there you go.Brad Crowell 13:19  I dig it. Well, that's a that's a really helpful explanation, and thanks for writing in your question. If you have a question, please join us by going to beitpod.com/questions, beitpod.com/questions and you can submit a question there, or you can submit a win. If you listen to the pod, you're very familiar with our Friday episodes, where we get to celebrate you. This is the easiest way for you to send that in. Send in your questions beitpod.com/questions. Yeah, let's do it, people, let's get to it. Brad Crowell 13:49  Stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into this really helpful conversation that Lesley had with Dr. Jenifer Perez. All about the feet. Brad Crowell 13:57  Okay, now let's talk about Dr. Jenifer Perez. Dr. Perez is a is a doctor of chiropractics and a lower extremity specialist, as well as the co-founder and vice president of Gait Happens G-A-I-T gait as in, how you walk. A platform dedicated to helping people understand, strengthen and reclaim their foot health. Though initially uninterested in feet, her perspective shifted after discovering the critical role they play in overall biomechanics. Today, she empowers people through evidence-based tools and exercises that address common issues like foot pain, plantar fasciitis and bunions. Her mission is to help people move better, starting from the ground up.Lesley Logan 14:39  Yeah, I mean so many things I like that she said, I actually still follow them and like, do their tips, and I am a big fan of their toe spacers. And we do have an affiliate link, and we do have discounts for you. So make sure you go into the show notes. I think the code is Lesley, if I'm not mistaken, just L-E-S-L-E-Y but you'll have our links in there. Get the tools you need. I like the little to spreaders, I like, like little TheraBands for my toes, which is really, really fun. So anyways, one of the things that I love that she said is our feet are our foundation, and how they interact with the ground has a huge influence on the rest of our body. I would say it is the influence on the rest of our body, right, like how your feet hit the ground, how your how you roll through your whole foot, or don't right, if you roll at the side of your foot, or if you're avoiding your big toe because it hurts or it aches, or, you know, anything like that, like that kind of stuff affects how your body is moving through the world. And she said modern footwear is a major contributor to foot dysfunction. And we talked a lot about modern footwear, and like, Brad, save its handles and, and just like, you know, I've been really interested in this. I was buying some new weight training shoes, and I was quite specific. And, like, look at the weight training she was like, okay, how do I get ones that have a wide toe box for my foot? How do I get ones that don't that I can, like, really feel my feet on the ground that, you know, like, I, I really happen to, like, the ones I'm using. It's almost like I'm not wearing shoes, which is really nice, but they're not, they're not like Vibrams or whatever, but they're really, really great. So I just think that, like, we need to be more conscientious of the shoes that we're buying and how we're doing this is affecting our whole body. And she said, because your body can only move in the range of motion that's allowed if you're working with shoes that don't let you roll through your feet because they're really stiff, or you're working, you know, you're walking around in heels, they have a time and a place my loves, but like, it affects how your whole body moves, and that's why your back can hurt, or your hips can hurt, or things like that. And she said there's a ton of small things you can do to add to your foot health each day. So you guys, like, right here, while you're listening to this pod like you can actually massage your foot, like you could have, we have a noboso ball that is in Brad's office, and we just both toss it on the floor. We're watching TV, and we, like, roll our feet on this ball, because it's so good for spreading the bone, spreading the toes, things like that. So you gotta give your feet a little love. That's what she said. Brad Crowell 16:56  Yeah, I was listening, when I was listening to the interview, what struck me was the progression that we make inadvertently a negative progression, so I guess it's a regression in our foot health when we try to solve the problem by putting them into comfy shoes, right? So we put it into a shoe that we're like, oh, feels so much better, and then that only lasts for so long, and then we need to find a better solution, or another solution. And then now we have a softer shoe, or we have, you know, whatever, and it just keeps getting worse and worse and worse. And she said, at one point, we have to break that cycle. And how do we break the cycle? You can do it with Pilates, y'all. You can also work with them if it's really a bad thing, like if you got a lot going on there, and they'll, they'll be able to help you start to figure that out. But you know, she said, I love my Birkenstocks. I'm a big fan. And she said, there's a couple of really amazing things. They let you spread your toes wide and all that kind of stuff, she said, but they're also a very stiff shoe, and so you're not bending your foot, you know, during your walk, as you're walking the way that you ultimately want to be doing. And so while it certainly, it's not like a it's not a bad shoe. It's also, if you're only wearing Berks all day, everyday, you're not actually helping yourself either, right? So, you know it's, it was just interesting to hear her say that. Lesley Logan 18:10  So, just so you know, Dr. Jenifer Perez, Brad, walks on the treadmill at the gym without shoes on which I don't know is any better for his foot health, but.Brad Crowell 18:20  I do not walk on the treadmill with no shoes on. No.Lesley Logan 18:23  I caught you, yes, oh, yes you did. Brad Crowell 18:27  Yeah, maybe, maybe I had socks. Okay, if you're, so, so, one thing she also talked about, which I thought was really helpful, is she said, if you're in pain and you're not active, other things are going to shut down, right? And she said being unable to walk or participate in activities you enjoy due to foot pain can also lead to mental and emotional decline. She said at the end of the day, foot pain, it affects every part of you, and it does hold us back. She highlighted research that indicated that where there's a connection between cognitive ability and mobility, your brain actually, like is affected by this, right? She also talked about toe strength is one of the biggest indicators of a fall risk, which this was, I mean, now that she said it, it's, it's so freaking logical, right? Because the toes of these tiny, little itty bitty thingies, the ankle and the knees and the hips are way stronger muscles around it, but those tiny, little bitty toes, why do we have them propulsion for movement and balance, right? And if the toes are weak, then you're not going to be able to stay balanced. It's much easier to fall like, soon as she said it, I was like, oh, duh, that makes total sense, right? So keeping your toes, your foot, healthy and strong, is going to help you as you age, because maybe you don't have that slip and fall, right? Because maybe it wasn't a slip and fall. Maybe you just don't have any foot strength, toe strength. Right? She also noted that research has looked at strength of how your toes are strong and what they're actually, like, doing. The big toe, obviously, is stronger than the pinky toe, right? Lesley Logan 20:07  The goal of it. Brad Crowell 20:07  Correct. It should be stronger than the pinky toe. She said, when it comes to strength, the big toe should be able to press with about 10% of your body weight and about 7% for the other toes, right? Also, she said our bodies, like, are amazing, and that they can compensate, which is, it's when we start compensating, when we're not evenly using the strength of our toes, when we start to compensate, that's when things start to get jacked up, right? Like, think about it, if you're always walking on the one side of your foot, and you're not using your feet, your toes equally when you're walking forward, eventually there, you know, those that the outside of your foot, or the inside of your foot is going to be, you know, off balance from the rest of it, and it's going to start to affect where, where it gets picked up by other things. I've experienced, plantar fasciitis. I also know I literally walk on the outside of my feet. I literally used to stand on the outside of my feet when I was working in restaurants, because my feet were in pain, and it was like less painful to stand on the outside of my feet. Lesley Logan 21:10  You can, you can, maybe you should walk on the inside of your feet to balance that out. Brad Crowell 21:14  Well, actually, because I have a high arch, that's exactly what I need to do. It's very typical to see people with high arches walk more towards the outside of their feet. I didn't know that. I didn't realize. I didn't learn that until recently, until I started watching some videos from Gait Happens, actually.Lesley Logan 21:31  I know they have abundance of videos. They're very helpful. Very, very helpful. Brad Crowell 21:36  Yeah. So you know, now it's been fascinating. It's been something I've been really thinking about consciously, and she she actually talked about that, too. I'm sure that's actually one of our Be It Action Items, it is, literally. So stick around. We're gonna dig into that. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 21:50  All right. So finally, let's get into these Be It Action Items that you covered with Dr. Jenifer Perez from Gait Happens. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with her? As I just mentioned, we did dig into this in the Be It items here, she said, go barefoot, just for five minutes. Okay? And while you're barefoot, obviously you're taking your shoes off. She said, start to feel, you know, your toes, and try to do it on a different texture, maybe, if it's always on a rug, try walking on a tile floor or concrete or linoleum or something like that, right? Go outside. Walk on the grass. Let your feet move and feel. Lesley Logan 22:31  Because when you walk on grass, grasses, even though they cut it level, like currently, while we're recording this, they're mowing our lawn, and it will look level. And then you walk out there, and it's like, oh, very uneven. Actually, very uneven. Brad Crowell 22:43  But she talked about how when you're walking, just feel each toe, feel what you're doing with your foot. We don't consciously think about it. When we're using our feet, we just flop them down, because I don't know we've been walking for our entire life, so you know, but we're not consciously aware of how we're doing it. So think about it for five minutes. Actually, focus on it for five minutes. That's free, easy and, and like, I mean, it's actually very enlightening, because I started to notice, oh, wow, I, I almost, I'm actually hardly using my big toe, which is where, which should be used more, right? Crazy stuff. What about you?Lesley Logan 23:21  Well, I already slayed this one. And she, actually a couple of times. She also challenged the next time you buy a pair of shoes, buy a pair that may look a little different than you're used to. So for example, your it should the shape of the shoe should look like your foot. Okay, so, like, ideally, what people are, if you look on Instagram, what people are trying to do is, like, put your foot on the shoe, like on a running shoe, your big toe should be able to be straight ahead, because if your shoe is pulling this big toe or pinching your toes into, I'm covering the mic, sorry, guys, pinching your toes into a little triangle, duh, your foot hurts. Duh, you have back pain, all that stuff. It's not good for your feet. Brad Crowell 23:58  Yeah, dress shoes definitely don't give you much room in there, right? Lesley Logan 24:02  I've never I'm only wearing really beautiful tennis shoes now, but, um, I, we got hiking boots recently. I also was looking I was like, oh, I like this. I'm like, oh, that's gonna be too narrow. Oh, I don't, that's gonna be, that's not the shape of my toe box. I got these ones. They're wide, they're a little. They're like the all they could be, like, freaking Uggs how wide they are. But my whole toe box fits, and my toes aren't scrunched. And I really like it. And I like those toe spacers I was talking about that they had. I love I know it's a good running shoe and weight training shoe, if I can wear my toe spacers in them, because there's room for my toes to be spread out in that spacer and there's room for my foot. And I love it.Brad Crowell 24:38  You know, another tip she talked about when it comes to shoes. First off, they have, like, a list of shoes on their website, so go check that out and be like, I'm shopping for this type of shoes. See what they recommend. But also, she said, if you're never like, like, like, look what is the Vibrams, Vibrams that are the toe shoes? Right? Lesley Logan 24:57  Yeah, yeah, they're so not sexy. Brad Crowell 24:59  Yeah, whatever, not the point. The point is that they are clearly giving you your foot shape, you know, the room to be its own shape, instead of jamming it into something small. But imagine if you've never worn something like that before, you know, it's going to take time for your body to adjust and accept that. So you might get those thinking this is going to be the thing that's going to help me, and it might help you eventually, but start small. She's like, wear them for a few minutes. Then, you know, wear something else. Wear them again. Wear them again, and get used to it. Because I remember when we bought our initial hiking shoes years ago, and it was the first time I ever had like, they weren't trail running shoes. Were they? Yeah, they were trail running shoes, and they were basically, like, huge, open inside shoe. There was very little support, and as wide. And I never worn a shoe like that, and it took me weeks to, like, be able to wear them all day. Lesley Logan 25:51  Oh, yeah, the ones we got for our honeymoon. Yeah, I think, yeah, you definitely want to start small. Start for a few minutes. Get used to it. I mean, like, same goes if you're actually working on your gait, like they're doing like, I switched my running pattern for a long time. I went from being a heel striker to, I forget what they call it, but anyways, a four-foot runner, and it just takes time. You can't, I can't, I couldn't go run six miles, even though I'm used to running six miles because new muscles had to be used, there's a new pattern, so be nice to yourself, and all or nothing mentality gets you nowhere. Brad Crowell 26:26  Well, all and you're not wrong on that, and good for you. I mean, learning how to run, it seems so, it seems so weird to say that, but like it's important. It is so important, just like learning how to walk and actually use our feet properly. So anyway, y'all, we actually have a link for you if you're interested in having Gait Happens work with you on your walk, your feet like any issues. If you have a bunion or you have plantar fasciitis and you're feeling stuck in life, check out the link in the show notes. We also have a coupon code there for you. And so make sure you're dropping that in. It'll allow them to know A. that we sent you, and B. it should hook you up. Yeah, it should hook you up. Lesley Logan 27:07  And when you let them know we sent you, it helps. Brad Crowell 27:10  10% off your purchase. Lesley Logan 27:11  Yeah, it supports the pod. It lets them know that they, you know, they you came from here. And so they go, oh, wow, I should go back and tell more things about the feet. You guys. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 27:21  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 27:23  Thank you so much for joining us today. How are you going to walk these tips into your life? Brad Crowell 27:28  Ooh.Lesley Logan 27:28  Ooh, I want to know. Gait Happens wants to know. So make sure you tag us when you share this episode with a friend. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 27:37  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 27:39  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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We're halfway through the year - how's your energy? How's your burnout? Whether you're running a company or running after your kids, today's episode is for anyone performing at a high level and trying to hold it all together.   We're talking about what true wellness looks like when your schedule is packed, your sleep is low, and the pressure is high. From micro-movements to balance training, executive burnout to bedtime hacks, we share what actually works for building long-term strength and clarity. Because wellness isn't just a workout - it's how you show up in every moment.   Resources mentioned: LizHilliard.com    Some key takeaways from this episode : Wellness starts at the top. If leaders prioritize their health, their teams will too. Model the behavior. Culture shift begins with boundaries, rest, and movement. You can't pour from an empty tank. Sleep hygiene isn't optional - it's your foundation. We're sharing how we actually wind down (and what gets in the way). Movement doesn't have to be an hour. Walk the stairs. Do 30 squats. Meditate for five minutes. “Snack-sized” wellness moments can still make a big impact.  

Kendell was born in Dominica, West Indies and came to Birmingham from St. Croix in 1999 to attend Samford University. While at Samford, Kendell was a member of the track and field team and earned a Bachelor's in Education with a concentration in Exercise Science. He then attended The University of Alabama in Birmingham (UAB) and received his Doctorate in Physical Therapy in 2007. Kendell founded M3 Endeavors, a performance venture in 2015 and in 2018 expanded the company to include physical therapy and Pilates. M3 Performance and Physical Therapy now operates across a few platforms in the Birmingham area.  He has a passion for evaluating movement in those who desire to live active lives and developing programs to improve their skill and performance.  When not in the clinic you can find him spending time with family on the golf course or developing new recipes in the kitchen.

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Foot health expert and co-founder of Gait Happens, Dr. Jennifer Perez unpack the misunderstood world of feet. From bunions and plantar fasciitis to toe strength and footwear myths, Dr. Jen breaks down how your feet impact your entire body and what you can do—starting today—to reconnect and restore their natural strength. Expect actionable advice, surprising insights, and some myth-busting around the shoes you might be wearing right now. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why Dr. Jen shifted her focus to feet after her own injuries.How foot pain can derail confidence and daily life.Exercises to activate toe strength and rebuild foot control.What plantar fasciitis and bunions actually are—and how to treat them.Why most shoes are harming your feet and how to choose better ones.The role of toe spacers, barefoot training, and natural gait.What “less shoe” really means and how it helps prevent injury.Episode References/Links:Gait Happens Website - https://gaithappens.com/Gait Happens Referral Link - https://gaithappens.com?ref=mwe4ndk (use code: LESLEY)Jen Perez's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/gaithappensGait Happens YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@gait_happensGuest Bio:Dr. Jennifer Perez is a board-certified chiropractor and co-founder of Gait Happens, an education-focused platform helping people rethink foot health from the ground up. With advanced training in biomechanics and years of hands-on experience, she focuses on improving foot strength, mobility, and overall movement to keep people doing what they love—without pain or limitations. In her Lafayette, Colorado practice, Dr. Perez works with everyone from high-level athletes to everyday movers. Through Gait Happens, she also supports clients around the world with virtual consults and programs designed to get to the root of common foot issues like plantar fasciitis and bunions—without jumping straight to orthotics or surgery. Known for her real-world, movement-first approach, Dr. Perez is also a trusted voice in the health and fitness space. 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And not just, you know, when you think about like your skin health and things like that, but truly, from a biomechanics perspective, our feet are our foundation, and how they interact with the ground is really important and has a huge influence on the rest of our body.Lesley Logan 0:19  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:02  All right, Be It babe. This conversation, this is about your feet. We got to talk about them. We got to talk about them because I don't want your dreams in this life, the things you want to do to ever be held back by pain. And a lot of pain that we have in our bodies is actually coming from what's going on in our feet. And the guest we have today is one of the most amazing experts on feet, like just truly, truly amazing Dr. Jenifer Perez from Gait Happens. She is going to nerd out with us. And if you're not watching this, I do recommend that, after the end of listening to it, that if you are interested in seeing what she's showing, you want to go to our Be It Pod YouTube channel and see the video, because she's showing the muscles of the feet. We talk about bunions, we talk about plantar fasciitis. We talk about even this, like, how to choose shoes. And I know this can be a little off the beaten path, because you're like, what about the journals? You guys, you got to take care of your feet. You have to, if it's between journaling and doing a foot exercise, maybe do a minute of foot exercise and a minute of journaling, because it's important that you know yourself inside and out, but that you're taking care of your feet, because they are going to take you everywhere you want to go, every place you want to be it until you see it. So here is Dr. Jen Perez from Gait Happens. Lesley Logan 2:11  All right, Be It babe. So this, today's guest is someone I've been kind of hunting down, kind of stalking in the best way, exploring all their things, nerding out, and I'm really excited, mostly personally, because I've been so interested in my own feet and and just like trying to not have the bunions that I feel like are inevitable happening to my feet. But, at any rate, Dr. Jen Perez from Gait Happens is our guest today. And Dr. Jen Perez, can you tell everyone who you are and why you rock at feet so much?Dr. Jenifer Perez 2:42  Absolutely, I love that you're so excited. I mean, this is, this is what I do. It is foot education, essentially, what it all boils down. And it's kind of funny, you know, not to dive too deep into my story, but I didn't like, I hated feet growing up.Lesley Logan 2:54  I'm so glad you're telling us, because I'm like, are you really into feet? Dr. Jenifer Perez 2:57  I know I like, I was like, feet are gross. I want nothing to do with feet like and then halfway through chiro school, I attended a seminar, we're trying to learn how to tape shoulders, and the instructor kept talking about feet. And essentially, what ended up happening is she kind of pulled the curtain back on how important our feet are. And not just, you know, when you think about like your skin health and things like that, but truly from a biomechanics perspective, our feet are our foundation, and how they interact with the ground is really important and has a huge influence on the rest of our body. And as soon as I kind of really started to think about feet from this perspective, I got really excited, because it's something that is not talked about enough, which is why I love having conversations like this, so kind of how I ended up in the foot world, I guess. Lesley Logan 3:46  I think that's really great, because I was gonna, like I, part of me was thinking, like, you must have seen some weird looking feet. I'm a Pilates instructor. I've seen some weird feet, and when I see them, I kind of inquired, like, what's your life been? How long have you had this? Because I don't, you know, like in Pilates, they don't go deep on any one thing. You can, you can niche out and everything. But like, you know, I'm really obsessed with Joseph Pilates had a ton of foot stuff. He had the toe corrector and the foot corrector. And, like, it's really kind of cool to see people like yourself and other people doing stuff that, like the toe corrector does, and so it's like, it's nice to know that, like, you know, in the 40s, he was doing these things. But we don't go into nuances. When I'm like, seeing arches have fallen, then I see like, you know, 70 year old people who had arches fall now their ankle bones are, like, humongous. And I'm like, oh my God, we have to know more about our feet. And I, like, one of the things I hear people, hold people back from, like, things they want to do is pain. You know, as a Pilates instructor, I work with a lot of people, when they're in pain, they don't go on trips, you know, and that's like a luxury, anyways, but it also holds people back from just even attempting taking on jobs or moving or trying new things. And so kind of wanted to dig into like, you know, What? What? How important are feet? And do they really hold us back or is that like a story we're telling ourselves?Dr. Jenifer Perez 5:01  No, you're, you're absolutely right. And of course, my population is biased, because they're coming to me with pain, typically. But those stories that you all mentioned are stories I hear every single day. Someone saying, you know, I had this trip to Europe planned, and I canceled it because I can't walk, you know, more than 100 steps a day, and that's going to require me to walk thousands of steps a day. Or someone who is they have they can't walk to the mailbox at the end of their driveway, and or they're terrified to even shower barefoot because their feet hurt so bad. I mean truly, foot pain, like we said, you're on your feet all day long, and so when your feet hurt, it really does hold you back. And that kind of comes in a spectrum of different severities and different kinds of pain and different pathologies, but at the end of the day, it does hold us back. And that's what I'm trying to help people do, is kind of retake their foot health and really strengthen their feet so that they're not holding them back anymore.Lesley Logan 5:59  Yeah. I mean, like, my, my dad's 72 and like, I yesterday, were at the gym together, and I watched him, like, navigate his leg over a bench. And I, part of me, was like, oh, I don't want to do that. And part was like, no, get that leg over that bench. Like, as long as he can lift his leg high enough to go over a bench sideways, he's holding the barbell. Like, we're good. But like, I think, you know, I, he lives in a senior living center, and I watch people like, their life declined so fast because they're not as active. But if you are in pain and you're not active, like other things, shut down, you know, like, and we can talk about, like the calves are like the second heart, right? So if you're not taking steps, you're not pumping the blood back up, and you're not taking steps because your feet hurt, like other things just go wrong.Dr. Jenifer Perez 6:42  Well, and it's and to your point, it's also, it's not just the physical right, it's our mental and emotional health as well. Because if you can't walk, if you can't do the activities that you love, then we start to see mental decline with that as well. And it's really fascinating. There's more and more research coming out around cognitive ability, which is also fascinating in itself but, fall risk alone, fall risk, one of the biggest indicators of fall risk is toe strength. They used to think it was, you know, the bigger muscles, like the glutes and the hamstrings and things like that. And when they did a comparative analysis, the two biggest indicators of fall risk were blood pressure and toe strength. Lesley Logan 7:18  This is insane to me. I love because I always like, say, like, say, like, like, Pilates helps you fall better. And there is some truth to that. Like, we help with, like, you know, hip muscles and core strength. And you're like, you understand, move your legs with your center, but it is your, the toe strength is something that's so interesting and like, so let's talk about, like, maybe we should just get into it. Like, I kind of, is it like our big toe only? Is it all 10 toes? What if you lose a toe? What? How do we strengthen our toes? Dr. Jenifer Perez 7:48  Yeah, let's jump in. So that research in particular looked at all 10 toes. So it looked at big toes and outer toes, and it found a significant difference in fall risk based on both. So the good news about that is, we have 10 toes. So let's say there is a toe amputation or, you know, some kind of accident or injury, you know, we have 10 so we can (inaudible) strength, right? Our bodies are amazing adapters. But in the average person, we are looking for strong toes. We actually have kind of a reference range around that we even measure toe strength in our office. Lesley Logan 8:24  Oh, my God, I have to come visit you. I just want to know if they're good. Dr. Jenifer Perez 8:28  Right? Everyone's favorite part of their appointment, because everyone starts like clenching their fists and sweating in the chair, trying so hard. But we're looking for about 10% of our body weight out of the big toe and about 7% of our body weight out of the outer four toes. So the big toes, (inaudible) is supposed to be stronger. It also has, for those watching, you can see my fancy foot model. So it also has a thicker bone. It has reinforcements. It even has two sesamoid bones which increase the lever arm, which basically makes it better for propulsion, similar to what our kneecap does. And so all of this is designed to make us really, really strong. But we have four layers of built-in muscles inside our feet. And I love using this foot model with my patients because.Lesley Logan 9:18  Oh my gosh. You guys. This is the most. I've never seen a foot model like this. This is insane. I've never seen one like this. I know that the feet have, like, all the the feet have the most amount of joints and muscles, correct, like, that's, it's in your feet, yes.Dr. Jenifer Perez 9:31  So lots of joints and muscles, (inaudible) both the most. But a quarter of our bones are in our, a quarter of our bones in our entire body are in our feet. And we have 33 joints in our feet. They're designed to move and be flexible. And it's, it's really, really incredible and intricate, but I use this foot model to show and for those that are listening, it's a model that shows the four layers of muscles to really give you a visual of how much muscle is in our feet. And how much we truly can strengthen that?Lesley Logan 10:03  Yeah, I, okay. So the reason you came up is because I was doing a lot of research on Joseph Pilates' accessories, because I'm doing his big accessory deck of flash cards. And my listeners know we've been talking about this a long time. I've been doing this. And so, like, there's all these, like, little toys and tools that he used to use, and one was marbles, and one was towels. And the marbles he would have you pick up a marble with your big toe, and then your second toe, and then your third, and your fourth and your fifth. And when I was doing the research, I could not pick up a marble with five different toes. I could do it with like two toes at a time, or these three toes over here. And I am proud to say when I was when I was actually having to film it, I was like, oh, one, and I did all five. I'm so proud of my feet. Like, over six months, I've, like, improved the dexterity of that. The towels is so hard, because I can scrunch it, but I couldn't flick it out. And, yes, I couldn't, I couldn't unravel the towel. And I'm like, what is going on? But so it's like, like, part like, the bottom part of my foot was strong, but maybe the top part of my foot wasn't so strong. So I have, like, so do you strengthen your toes? I don't think it's just by squeezing them, because I'm afraid, am I wrong about giving people hammer toes? Like, I don't want to do.Dr. Jenifer Perez 11:11  Such a good question. It's such a good question. Let's dive in a little bit, because this is one, one area where Joseph Pilates was so far ahead of the curve. But we have also learned a lot since his work, right? Yeah. Lesley Logan 11:28  Thank God. Thank God, we've learned more. It's been a while. Dr. Jenifer Perez 11:31  I love like using towel scrunches or marble pickups if we need to start somewhere, and that's what's going to do it for you, then do it. It's better than not doing anything, but in general, I tend to avoid those exercises. And the reason is because of hammertoes, you were totally right on the right track. So essentially, we have four sets of muscles that flex and extend our toes. So hammertoes is when the toes start to lift and curl over time. And if they stay in that position, they can become rigid and arthritic and really, really painful. They also were associated in that same study with an increase in fall risk as well, as well as bunions. And so what we want to do is activate the muscles, but with the toes in a long and flat and wide position. So, an alternative, something that you can do right now, if you're barefoot, is if you just lift up all 10 toes and then spread them out as wide as you can. And even if it feels like they're not listening to you, just keep telling them to spread and then reach them out long and wide and try to bring them back down to the ground. Hold that engagement, hold that press, and you should start to feel the arch underneath your foot start to activate. That's the muscle that's right here that I already took off my model.Lesley Logan 12:51  And it can activate even if you like, have flat feet, because I have people always who like to fight me on this, like, I have flat feet, it won't lift. And I'm like, I think the muscle still activates, guys.Dr. Jenifer Perez 13:03  Yes, yes, exactly. We can dive in to foot shape in a second, too. But the last piece of that exercise is, if you want to add a little bit more, just barely lift your heels like enough for a credit card. Lesley Logan 13:09  Oh, that I haven't done. The spreading of the flick the lifting the toes, I love to teach. The spreading them out. I even try to get people to do one toe at a time, which, by the way, I can do it reverse pinky toe to big toe, but not big, for whatever reason, it's like big toe and then all four. But, so, okay, that's, I've not done the heel lift, okay.Dr. Jenifer Perez 13:32  Yeah, I think you can do to improve dexterity, improve activation of the muscles, rebuild the connection between our brain and our feet, because that's a big piece of it is because we don't use our feet. Many people, our feet are stuffed into cushy socks and cushy shoes and ignored all day long. They even have indoor shoes that they're wearing. Lesley Logan 13:52  Yes, yes.Dr. Jenifer Perez 13:52  Our feet are ignored. Just even rebuilding that connection can be really important. But when I'm dealing with patients in pain, one of my big things, especially when it comes to trying to encourage them to walk and move past their barriers, is engaging the muscles in a way that we actually use in locomotion. And in the gait cycle, we activate the muscles of our feet in order to push off and move forward. That's why I really like that long press lift the heels, because that's exactly how we use those muscles in the walking gait cycle.Lesley Logan 14:26  Yeah, okay, love, love, I'm gonna send you, my friend has a, I take a Pilates session with a friend. He's an amazing teacher, and he's got a client he's been with for 10 years. The guy will not take his shoes off. He does yoga in shoes. His Pilates in shoes. He's like, if I take my shoes off, my feet hurt. I have plantar fasciitis and I, if I take them off, my feet hurt. And I was just like, you know, I think, I think they hurt because you don't take them off. I'm just, just something that, like, maybe you should.Dr. Jenifer Perez 14:55  Yeah, I mean that really like the first kind of knock on the door, but you're totally right. It is typical. Because people have felt pain. So then they get into orthotics or cushier shoes, shoes that really are designed to do the work for you, because it alleviates the pain. But then the golden rule of the musculoskeletal system is use it or lose it. So the longer that we're now in these shoes and these orthotics that are doing the work for us that may have been good in the short term, but in the long term, our feet start to atrophy more, and we become reliant on them, and then we need a more aggressive orthotic and a cushier shoe, and it just becomes this cycle that we have to eventually break. Lesley Logan 15:34  Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Everyone, please re-listen to that. So a yoga teacher, he's like, the two worst inventions were shoes and chairs and, like, you know, they and I'm excited for Brad to listen to this, because he, he, he's been wearing Birkenstocks in the house because he was having, like, plantar fasciitis pain. But if he wear these Birkenstocks, he won't have it and I think that's fine. He's really good at spreading his toes. Like, this is not a knock on him. But I do get concerned, like, are we just like, not forcing the feet to do the job that they're supposed to do, even if they are Birkenstocks. And, you know, there's lots of information about they can be amazing, but I just sometimes worry, like, are we not giving his feet the opportunity to be strong on their own? Dr. Jenifer Perez 16:15  Yeah, yeah, I would give Birkenstocks a B minus, for me, like, they're great because they're, they're a decently low stack height, so not, they're not really cushiony. They have a beautiful wide toe box so it allows your toes to spread, but they're very rigid, and they do have that arch support. So it kind of depends on what our goals are. If we do have an active diagnosis, active diagnosis, like plantar fasciitis, they can be helpful in alleviating that pain. But, again, on the flip side of that, we want to start strengthening our feet, because plantar fasciitis, you okay if I dive into plantar fasciitis? Lesley Logan 16:55  I want you to do that because and then we're gonna get to bunions because of my own personal interest. Dr. Jenifer Perez 16:59  Those are kind of the two that like, everybody (inaudible). Lesley Logan 16:54  I think everyone's heard of. I think we can definitely, yeah, we don't have to go into, like Morton's neuroma, unless we have time. Dr. Jenifer Perez 17:01  Plantar Fasciitis is and fasciitis means more of an inflammatory response. So we're talking about like short term acute pain. The kind of umbrella term is plantar fasciopathy, something going wrong with the plantar fascia. But essentially, the plantar fascia is best friends with this muscle right here, called our flexor digitorum brevis. Lesley Logan 17:20  Okay. Dr. Jenifer Perez 17:21  That muscle is one of the two muscles that presses our toes down, flexor digitorum brevis is the one that presses our toes down flat. Flexor digitorum longus is the one that curls our toes. Lesley Logan 17:32  Got it. Dr. Jenifer Perez 17:32  Right. Going back to our conversation before, when we lengthen the toes and press them, FDB is the one we're activating. The reason this matters with the plantar fascia is because when we go to push off, when we go to take a step and we push off of our foot, FDB is actually what gives us the elasticity to push off of. It's like the trampoline that we're pushing off of. But it has to be strong in order to do that. It has to be able to be, have tension. If it doesn't, we have to get tension from somewhere else. We get it from our next door neighbor, the plantar fascia. Every step we take, rather than using a strong FDB to push off of we're using the plantar fascia, and it becomes more and more irritated while we're on our feet, and then it kind of does this, like stiffening and recoil when we're off our feet, and the second we go to stand up again, that's when it's like, there's the pain again. So when it comes to plantar fascio, when it comes to plantar fasciopathy, the number one thing I'm looking at is strength, and how do we create a stable foot at push off.Lesley Logan 18:37  Yeah, okay. Thank you for that. I think that is really key, and it makes me that like one, because you start to watch people like, I don't watch people in the airports anymore because it's just too much. The posture, the head, head to the side, the heads hanging off of the bodies, like the hip over I'm like, I can't I cannot. They're not paying me. I can't do it. And my husband's just like, look at how that person's walking. Like, look at how that one foot, I'm like, babe, they're not asking for our help, yeah, put some blinders on. But he's like, what's (inaudible) I'm like, they don't, they can't, they no longer can roll through their foot. They're no longer, they're now they're kind of like, and that is going to limit you. That's going to affect falling, first of all, because it's not how you're supposed to walk. It's also going to affect knees, hips, back, like, it just a whole chain, right? I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but I always think of the feet is like, the shocks of the car and also the tires of the car, because, like, if they're off, then the whole body is off, right? Dr. Jenifer Perez 19:25  That's actually an analogy we use all the time, is even with, like, performance athletes, right? Like, if you compare an athlete to a car, you can have the best performance car, sports car in the world, but if the tires don't work, it's not going anywhere, you know. Yeah. Lesley Logan 19:40  Yeah, yeah, okay, let's talk bunions. You know, I obviously things have gotten wildly different, you know, like it used to be, don't get a bunion surgery, you'll never walk again. And now, like, people are getting bunion surgery and they are successful. But like, do we is everyone who gets a bunion, like, destined for surgery? Can you change that? Can you fix it? What do we got? Dr. Jenifer Perez 20:00  Yeah, great questions. So first of all, for those that don't know what a bunion is, bunion is when we have a deviation of the first metatarsal, so the long bone that's behind the big toe starts to deviate outwards, and then the toe starts to deviate towards the other toes, and it creates this angle of what we call the first ray, which is the big toe and the first metatarsal, and then as this drifts outwards, we start to see a bump develop on the inside of that joint. Now that bump is not it's not arthritis, it's not a growth of the bone. It's actually the head of the metatarsal sticking out sideways. And so it's truly a joint dislocation that then we are walking on all day long. So when it comes to bunions, they come in different grades. So we have a mild, a moderate or a severe bunion. Mild to moderate bunions can absolutely be helped with conservative care. Conservative care being things like toe spacers, things like strengthening exercises, adjusting your shoes, working on building strength and stability. When we get past that moderate mark, that's when we start to have that discussion of, is surgery going to help? And there's also lots of different kinds of surgery out there. I'm in favor of never get a fusion unless you have to, because especially at the big toe, we have to be able to bend the big toe in order to walk, run, move, and if we can't, we're going to go somewhere else. And then, like you said, that is going to affect that whole chain. So that's kind of the brief thing of bunions. What else do you want to dive in? Lesley Logan 21:28  Okay, so this is fascinating. So okay, I have a wide toe box, right? Like, we'll just get personal. I'm just, I think it's better to have an example. So a wide toe box always have, I have my father's feet, like, really, really narrow heels, super high arches, wide toe box, and I had a big space between my big toe, my four, my other four toes that no longer exists. My toe is now over, right? I use those amazing toe spacers. I do want to know if I'm supposed to put something in those little slits. So I use those. I'm like, kind of obsessed with them, because with them on, I can actually point my big toe when I don't have them on my big toe doesn't really point, like it go, it's straight, but it doesn't really like point with the foot. It's very fascinating to me when it's when it's in alignment, it's like doing a great job, which is probably what's, what has, what's happened. But because of all the footwork that I do, I mean, like I have, I do footwork on my Reformer with no padding, I have no pain. I do a lot of foot corrector, toe corrector, tons of stuff to really, like, keep my feet strong. But I am not like, I don't know. Maybe I'm like, expecting something that shouldn't happen. I'm not seeing a reduction of my bunion, nor is my big toe staying where it needs to be without the spacers. So is it just time? Is it daily homework? Like, what? What are people with bunions who have a minor to moderate supposed to do?Dr. Jenifer Perez 22:43  Yes, I love it. So couple of things there. So let's talk about you first, and then I'll talk about a different presentation, because there's kind of two different presentations of bunions and one would be kind of more the like, like you said, the high arch, more rigid foot type. There's another kind of bunion that happens in a more flexible low arch, flat foot, foot type. And so number one, when we're talking about bunions, it starts to be an instability in that joint. So although we can strengthen, although we can improve function and decrease pain, it's not always going to stay there. So even Dr. Conley, my business partner, she has a pretty significant bunion on her right foot. She wears her toe spacers all day long, every day, and if she doesn't, she doesn't get pain, not right away. If she didn't consistently, she probably would over the course of few weeks or a month. But if she doesn't, you can definitely see that bunion popping out more. So she uses them as a guide, because of that laxity that's developed in that joint. So it kind of depends on how far along that spectrum we are as to whether the big toe will stay there or not, because it can in definitely the more mild cases, but it just depends. Now talking about, kind of one piece of the puzzle that might be missing with everything that you mentioned, is with the more stiff foot presentation. So you're more high arch foot type. One of the really important jobs of our foot, like we said, there's 33 joints, it has to be able to move and dissociate and unlock. And sometimes what people with high arches have a hard time with, is pronation. We live in this more supinated position. The arch is higher up. And now when the foot comes down to the ground, since we can't move through the mid foot, which has all of these that are designed to twist, if I can't move through there because it's locked down, I'm going to move excessively through my forefoot, so we're basically making up for that motion in the forefoot, which can lead to that instability and that bunion. This is the same presentation as Dr. Conley, by the way.Lesley Logan 24:51  Oh, well, I mean, I'm in good company. But that makes a lot of sense, because, you know, I like, I've had to work really hard when I point my feet to not, is it like, like, supinate? Is it like? What do you mean? You, like, I like, I want to make sure that my don't have like, flippers. I have like, two feet. So I'm like, I'm pointing my feet, but the pinky toes are not coming towards each other. It's a really, it's a really big thing that I have to work on, because my ankles are so hyper mobile, so that, that makes a lot of sense, and got it. So I need to stretch. I need to actually let my arch stretch out.  Dr. Jenifer Perez 25:23  Let your feet relax. And it's also, it's kind of a learned response too. Like you said, if you have hypermobile ankles, sometimes what we'll do is we'll try to make up for finding stability with our feet, and then we just never let them relax. So the conversation used to always be like around pronation and like, pronation is the devil, but really, I see a pretty good 50-50, split of people who need strength and control of pronation versus people who need to learn how to relax their feet again and start to pronate. Lesley Logan 25:24  Yeah. Okay, super fun. So you mentioned there's another, there's another type of bunion, though. Dr. Jenifer Perez 25:34  So, basically, exactly the opposite. Okay, so now think about your more flat foot, foot type, more flexible foot type. What happens here is, because we don't have good control of the mid foot, we start to spill over into uncontrolled pronation. Again, pronation isn't the devil we just need to be able to control it. So now, when I spill over into uncontrolled pronation, you see how my forefoot starts to deviate, this way? Lesley Logan 26:21  Yes, yes. I had a client who that's how his foot, he had callus. It was so bad. It was like. Dr. Jenifer Perez 26:26  Like a callous on the inside of the big toe. Sometimes they'll even have it on the inside of the joint where it is, too. Those are called pinch calluses. And the reason they get them is because when the forefoot starts to deviate with that uncontrolled pronation. Now, when they go to push off, they're pushing off across the big toe, so they get a callus on the side of the toe, and that pushes their toe over towards the other toes, which can contribute to a bunion. The one thing we haven't mentioned across the board is absolutely footwear. Footwear 100% contributing to this as well, because your body can only move in the range of motion that's allowed. And if we are in footwear that has a triangular shaped toe, then it is bringing your toe towards the other toes. There's no way your toe can sit in alignment if it's in a shoe with a pointed toe box. Lesley Logan 27:16  Yeah, I know I've had to, like, change all of my shoes. I keep my my high heels for my wedding that I'll never put on ever again. I don't think my feet would even fit in them at this point, but I like, keep them for just like the look of it. But like, I am a tennis shoe. Like, if I if I can't wear tennis shoes, we are really in trouble. I have one pair of, like, really wide toe box clogs, and I'm like, okay, if I have to wear dressy shoes, we will put these on and. Dr. Jenifer Perez 27:39  Well, I mean, there's also, like, more and more and more options coming out. So like at our website, Gait Happens, we have a whole list of footwear that has a wide toe box, but for example, so for those again, watching so, I mean, you look at more of like a traditional flat even, and you have this absolutely pointed toe box. Imagine your big toe in this position. Your big toe is supposed to be here.Lesley Logan 28:02  Because it's straight up, and it's going literally across the middle of your foot.Dr. Jenifer Perez 28:04  Right? And now we're going to bend on that joint, yes, imagine a door that's hung crooked, and then we just decide to open it 10,000 times a day. Lesley Logan 28:05  Right. Dr. Jenifer Perez 28:13  So it just is basically, really harming that joint. But there's options out there that you can have a shoe that's similar, but with a wide toe box. I mean, same thing with looking at, like, more of your daily tennis shoes or your running shoes, right? Like, there's options that have a wide toe box out there. I also have, like, I got these (inaudible) loafers that I am loving, and I could not find them this morning, I'm so upset. Lesley Logan 28:41  Someone stole them from you. They're so good. Okay. We all have to go, like, scour your website before you buy new shoes, because that is, that is the thing. Like, my feet do not have pain. You don't have any issues. But if I put on a pair of shoes where it's going to put my toe in the wrong spot, then I am going to have pain. Like, that's when I have it. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, you know? I mean, like footwear. So basically, we're outsourcing the natural gait of our body to a footwear, which is then affecting how our rest of our day goes, but then also how our bodies feel in the future.Dr. Jenifer Perez 29:15  Yeah, absolutely. I mean, our bodies conform to shapes. We've seen that with foot binding in history, we've seen that with the whale bone corsets. We've seen that with the neck elongation, our body will conform to a shape if you put it in that shape, and it is not any different when it comes to the foot. Lesley Logan 29:33  Yeah, yeah. Okay. So, so how often should we be paying attention to our feet? Like, is this something we're supposed to do? Because, you know, people, everyone has, I don't have enough time. They barely have enough time to work out, like, how how often should they do foot exercises? How should they be thinking about their feet? What do we got?Dr. Jenifer Perez 29:49  So as much as you can give me, I mean, I'm very realistic, right? If you're having pain, then spend more time on this, because it really does impact your life. But if we're just talking about the average person looking for prevention and longevity, then how about we just start with going barefoot a little bit like let your feet be feet. Go barefoot around the house. Let's get rid of the house shoes. Let's maybe go walk on a few different surfaces outside when it's warm enough and not snowing, like it is here, you know. So just let your feet be feet, and then you can do stuff like adding toe spacers. If you're concerned about the spacing between your toes. We like the toe spacers that we have because you can wear them while you're moving around.Lesley Logan 30:31  They're, they're amazing. I actually will just say, like, I wear them just to walk around my house. And I thought maybe they won't stay in because like, of how they are. No, they stay. I also wear them doing yoga. I wear them doing Pilates. I don't have to have socks with them on. Like, you know, sometimes I have to adjust it a little bit. But, like, it's actually, they're really amazing, and they fit in almost all my shoes. And when they don't fit, I'm like, hmm, maybe these shoes, maybe these shoes need to go get donated.Dr. Jenifer Perez 30:56  Yeah. So, I mean, just simple tips to honestly, like, if you're going to be doing a ton of walking, maybe you just roll your foot out on a ball afterwards, give it a little bit of love. Maybe add a little bit of foot activation before a workout. If you know you're going to be doing, like single leg workout or things like that, there's, there's a ton of small things that you could do to add foot health into your day, and part of it is just the awareness. Go walk around your hallway after listening to this or wherever you are, and actually think about reaching your toes long and engaging your toes with each step, and see how different that is from how you've been walking for the last 10 years.Lesley Logan 31:32  Yeah, you know, this fascinates me, because I will sometimes see, okay, like, you know, people wear flip flops at the airport and they're like, pinky toe doesn't touch the ground. And I was like, isn't it supposed to touch the ground? Like, were they born like that? Did they like change their body like, what happened? Why is their pinky toe not on the ground? Dr. Jenifer Perez 31:50  To your point, I can't look at a lot of people in the airport anymore, but I do celebrate with people when I see them in shoes that I do approve of, because it's so far and few between. So I'm like, hey, nice Altras. And they're like, that was weird.Lesley Logan 32:04  I, you know what? I love that we just had an amazing guest on who was talking about, like, your bubble of influence. And like, like, just giving a stranger a compliment is, like, affecting your bubble of influence. And like, you are doing that within what your influence wants to be. So I, I'm, I'm all in on that. This is so fascinating. I think, you know, I just, I think a lot of times people think about the way our media has trained us is like, think about your abs, or the abs that will like, the muscles that will tone your, the exercise will tone your core, these will tone your arms. And I'm always just like, because I get asked these all the time, and I tell my publicist, I'm like, I gotta talk about, like, their, are their feet aligning like it does, like their hips, we have so many things to talk about before they even do the sit up like, there's just like, and it's not that I'm a nitpicky person. I'm not. I'm kind of like, safe, ugly movement is fine, you know, as long as it's not dangerous. But we're so obsessed with like, from the waist up that we're not really focusing on like, really where some of the root problems are and where we have a lot of control, which is like our foot choices, our shoe choices, like walking around our house barefoot, giving our feet some love.Dr. Jenifer Perez 33:07  Yeah, I think it all comes down to what are your goals? Right? Are your goals to live fast, die hard, whatever, right? If you if your goal is, I want a six pack and I want to enjoy my life for whatever that looks like. Great. If your goal is I want to go climb Machu Picchu, or I want to be able to run into my 70s and 80s, then we need to have a conversation that looks very different around supporting that longevity and that movement potential. Lesley Logan 33:35  Yeah, yeah, you're amazing. Okay. I mean, I could talk to you for hours, but we're gonna take a brief break and find out how people can find you, follow you, work with you and your Be It Action Items. Dr. Jenifer Perez 33:51  Perfect. Lesley Logan 33:45  All right. Dr. Jen Perez, where do you hang out? Where can people like, if people, I know you're in a place that snows, but like, can people work with you who don't live near you? Like, what? What do you have? Dr. Jenifer Perez 33:54  So, great question. So first of all, we have lots of free resources. So our Instagram account is Gait Happens, G-A-I-T Happens. And we have thousands of videos on there. We also are expanding our YouTube as well. So Gait Happens on YouTube, lots of free videos, lots of things to check out there. If you're wanting a more personalized approach. So for those that are worldwide, we, our team does virtual consultations. I don't personally do virtual consultations anymore, but we have a whole team of practitioners that do. We also have DIY programs, like a 12-week Fit Feet program. If you'd rather just get a program that you do on your own, but if you do want to come work with me, I am in Colorado. I'm in Kinetic Chiropractic is my clinic in Lafayette, Colorado, and I have people fly in all the time, and then we can do follow up appointments virtually, but we do that first appointment together. Lesley Logan 34:46  That's so cool. I have to see if that's on the way to Aurora, because that's where, that's my next trip into Colorado. So okay, I mean, I feel like you've given us a lot, but I just want to like for our people who are like, okay, what's my first next step? No pun intended. Bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it it till they see it, what do you have for us?Dr. Jenifer Perez 35:08  I love it. I have two kind of challenges, I would say. One that can be immediate and one that's for the next time you buy shoes. So, the immediate challenge is go barefoot for five minutes. That's it doesn't require any equipment. Just take your shoes off. And if you're not already going barefoot, and if you're already going barefoot, then I challenge you to go barefoot for five minutes on new textures. So if you're already going barefoot at home, go outside, go walk in the grass, go walk over some stones, let your feet start to discover texture and movement over surfaces again. And if you're not going barefoot, then start by going on those soft surfaces for five minutes, let your feet move and feel. So that's my, my number one. You can do this right after this. And then my number two is the next time that you buy a pair of shoes, I challenge you to not only buy a pair of shoes that may look a little different than you're used to because they have a nice, beautiful, wide toe box that lets your foot move, but I challenge you to buy something that's a little less shoe, and what I mean by that is less aggressive, so less stiff, less arch support, less cushion, less shoe than you think that you need just step it down a little bit, because that's going to challenge your feet to do a little bit more of the work.Lesley Logan 36:33  Yes, I'm in on all of this. I love this so much. Dr. Jen Perez from Gait Happens, thank you. This was a dream interview I wanted to do since I've stumbled upon you and all that you're doing. And I just think it's really amazing. And I know for a fact, if you're an OPC member, you guys, come on. You have to, you have to go check this out. It's gonna be part of your like, we always, I always say, like, your feet are connected to your seat. Like, that's, you know, and it's you know, that's really is. And people challenge. I've had people literally tell me I was doing the Toe Corrector with rubber bands. I was just showing people like, you don't have to buy fancy things. You can just use rubber bands. Here's what I'm doing, and it connects to the seat. And I had trainers of the wazoo going, that's not how your like, glutes work. And I was like, okay, I don't know how you study for anatomy, and that's fine, but I'm gonna tell you right now you obviously haven't done it, because if you do the exercises correctly, you can't help but feel your butt work like the outer hips work, the hand, everything is like turning on so they are connected, maybe not directly, because your feet are not touching your seat.Dr. Jenifer Perez 37:29  Absolutely. I actually have a fun party trick that I will do with trainers when I'm working with trainers, and I have them lay on their stomach and extend their leg behind them with their their knee bent, and then you down on their thigh. And what this is doing is it's a muscle test for your hips. So it's like, if you're, you've got strong hips that should be nice and strong. So I have them do that barefoot. And it's usually like, okay, great. That was awesome. You were able to not let me press down. And then I take my other hand and I squish their toes together, and I press down, and it goes because you you can't when your toes are squished together, it affects the whole chain. Now, can I explain that neurologically? No, I cannot, but I can tell you that it works every time I do it.Lesley Logan 38:13  Yeah, I think, you know, I think we'll get the neuro I mean, it's just going to take time for us, especially in this western society where everything's kind of siloed to like, see how it all connects, you know, but it is connected. And if you can feel it, then, like, we don't actually need the science right now to prove that what you're feeling is true. So someday, someday, well, you are doing the Lord's work. I really think so. And thank you so much for being here with us today. Everyone, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Are you gonna go buy a new pair of shoes with this in mind? Are you going to go walk around barefoot? Please tag Gait Happens. Tag the Be It Pod and share this with a friend, especially your friends who are complaining about your feet. You know who those people are? They tell you all the time. So make sure the ones that take their shoes off at the club, which is a little not okay, please don't do that. I live in Las Vegas, and I'll see people walking barefoot. I'm like, I don't think you want to do that here. That's, don't do it there. Anyways, until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 39:10  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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