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David and Sherie talk about self-worth, sexual addiction, betrayal trauma, depression, anxiety, and other therapy issues. Each podcast is a different topic of conversation with tools, guidance, and help for navigating these complex problems. Learn more at

David Thompson & Sherie Christensen


    • Apr 21, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
    • every other week NEW EPISODES
    • 28m AVG DURATION
    • 132 EPISODES


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    132 Overcoming intrusive, unwanted thoughts (4 of 4)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 21, 2025 20:14


    David & Sherie continue talking about our intrusive, unwanted thoughts and start with a really helpful exposure therapy exercise or visualization. We then finish talking about additional steps you can take to manage those intrusive thoughts even more.Don't Believe Everything You Think, by Joseph Nguyen: https://a.co/d/0hISYNnOvercoming Unwanted Intrusive Thoughts by Sally M. Winston PsyD, Martin N. Seif PhD: https://a.co/d/c7A6puk

    131 Overcoming intrusive, unwanted thoughts (3 of 4)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2025 21:37


    David & Sherie continue talking about our intrusive, unwanted thoughts and talk about different methods of helping overcome these thoughts, focusing on exposure therapy and what that means.Don't Believe Everything You Think, by Joseph Nguyen: https://a.co/d/0hISYNnOvercoming Unwanted Intrusive Thoughts by Sally M. Winston PsyD, Martin N. Seif PhD: https://a.co/d/c7A6puk

    130 Overcoming intrusive, unwanted thoughts (2 of 3)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 24, 2025 24:29


    David & Sherie continue talking about our intrusive, unwanted thoughts and talk about the 3 kinds of intrusive thoughts, common thought myths, and more about what we do about them. We referenced two books in the first episode:Don't Believe Everything You Think, by Joseph Nguyen: https://a.co/d/0hISYNnOvercoming Unwanted Intrusive Thoughts by Sally M. Winston PsyD, Martin N. Seif PhD: https://a.co/d/c7A6puk

    129 Overcoming intrusive, unwanted thoughts (1 of 3)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 10, 2025 21:35


    David & Sherie begin talking about something everyone struggles with to some extent - what to do with our intrusive, unwanted thoughts! What they mean, why they're there, and what we can begin to do about them. This is the first episode in a series because there's so much good information. We reference two books in this episode:Don't Believe Everything You Think, by Joseph Nguyen: https://a.co/d/0hISYNnOvercoming Unwanted Intrusive Thoughts by Sally M. Winston PsyD, Martin N. Seif PhD: https://a.co/d/c7A6puk

    128 How to increase Motivation! (2 of 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2025 32:44


    David & Sherie finish talking about motivation and why it's at the heart of a change process. Continue listening to learn how to increase or improve or act better on you motivation. Listen as we review the last 6 of 9 steps:4. Create Routines & Systems5. Remove Barriers & Make It Easy6. Use Rewards & Accountability7. Track Your Progress8. Accept That Motivation Fluctuates9. Focus on Identity, Not Just Goals

    127 How to increase Motivation! (1 of 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2025 26:07


    David & Sherie talk about motivation and why it's at the heart of a change process. How does one increase or improve or act better on their motivation? Listen as we review the first 3 of 9 steps:1. Set Clear, Achievable Goals2. Connect to Your Why3. Start Small & Take Action

    126 Finishing up about Internal Family Systems therapy or IFS (2 of 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2025 26:10


    David & Sherie finish talking about internal family systems or IFS. This will help you to know if it's going to help in your own healing and growth process and whether or not more information will get you where you want to be. If so, we recommend the following books: No Bad Parts: https://a.co/d/9ezT5RVInternal Family Systems Workbook: https://a.co/d/buzWoerAre you interested in worthing with us directly? Please reach out! Work with David or learn more about him here: https://www.discoverinnovo.com/Work with Sherie or learn more about her here: https://lakewoodfamilytherapy.com/sherie-adams-christensen/

    125 About Internal Family Systems therapy or IFS (1 of 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2025 19:14


    David & Sherie talk about internal family systems, started by Richard Schwartz. He attempted to help others work through their traumas and challenges and developed a way to do this that has since grown into an effective therapeutic method. Listen to this episode and see if it's interesting to you and might be something for you to look more into!Are you interested in worthing with us directly? Please reach out! Work with David or learn more about him here: https://www.discoverinnovo.com/Work with Sherie or learn more about her here: https://lakewoodfamilytherapy.com/sherie-adams-christensen/

    124 About other conditions that accompany or cause addiction (2 of 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 30, 2024 36:32


    David & Sherie finish talking about other conditions that are comorbid or run with addiction. We talk about ADHD and regulating impulse control and the effect that has on recovery, as well as autism, NPD, and obsessive compulsive personality disorder. Hopefully this helps you develop compassion for partners who struggle with these things.

    123 About other conditions that accompany or cause addiction (1 of 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 16, 2024 20:35


    David & Sherie talk about other things to be aware of when considering addiction recovery and how those things impact the process. Depression, for example, is important to recognize and understand when trying to work through recovery. Anxiety, ADHD, autism, and other mood and personality disorders are also considered. We also talk about dopamine and how the brain works when in addiction.

    122 About steps to recovery for the betrayed partner, finishing up

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2024 27:22


    David & Sherie finish talking about steps to recovery for the betrayed partner and will finish up with the final 5 steps: know your values, learning, responding, not reacting, self-evaluation, and demonstrating empathy. Listen to learn more and make your recovery as good as it could be!

    121 About steps to recovery for the betrayed partner, continued

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2024 23:54


    David & Sherie continue talking about the steps of recovery for the betrayed partner including forgiveness, understanding addiction, getting support, and committing to doing your own work.

    120 About updated steps to recovery for the betrayed partner or spouse

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 4, 2024 23:15


    David & Sherie talk about the updated steps to recovery for the betrayed partner, or the actual things they should be doing in a recovery process. There is a lot to do that helps, so use this as a roadmap for what to do when something happens or there is a recent discovery. And the more closely you follow these steps, the better! We cover taking time and space, having boundaries, and focusing on creating purpose from the pain in this episode.

    119 About steps to recovery for the addict - finishing up

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 21, 2024 29:18


    David & Sherie continue talking about steps to recovery for the addict including understanding addiction yourself, working through past trauma, and holding boundaries in toxic relationships. All of these are vital to recovery!

    118 About steps to recovery for the addict - new and improved!

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 7, 2024 21:46


    David & Sherie cover the steps to recovery for the addict, with additions to our original episodes when we first started. Several additional steps like understanding addiction, processing past trauma and creating boundaries are now included.

    117 About the letting go technique (2 of 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 23, 2024 16:25


    David & Sherie finish talking about the letting go technique that will help with working through negative past experiences along with helping with stress and even triggers.

    116 About the letting go technique (1 of 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 9, 2024 15:34


    David & Sherie talk about a wondering technique for letting go of strong, negative emotions. It's a step-by-step guide that you can do on your own with a few minutes that will have a profound effect on how you feel. It comes from David Hawkins book Letting Go, which we highly recommend. Part one of two.

    115 About a marriage contract and why it matters

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 26, 2024 21:25


    David & Sherie talk about why many relationships need a marriage contract, especially after infidelity and disclosure. We will talk about how to do it and what to cover so you can create your own.

    114 About 3 things that every relationship needs to be healthy and happy

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 12, 2024 22:17


    David & Sherie talk about 3 simple (not necessarily easy!) things that every healthy and happy relationship need to have and do: be loving, communicate clearly, and hold boundaries until there's problem solving.

    113 About building healthy relationships (2 of 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 29, 2024 23:11


    David & Sherie continue talking about what healthy couples do to have good relationships, and cover 5 things specifically that we can, including turning towards bids for connection, flipping your internal script, ritualize cherishing, learn to fight smarter, and making time together.

    112 About building healthy relationships (1 of 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 15, 2024 19:14


    David & Sherie talk about trust as the foundation and begin a conversation about some of the healthier ways to show up in our relationships.

    111 About the progression of sexual addiction (2 of 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2024 22:51


    David & Sherie finish answering a question about how addiction progresses and how it survives, and how we might see this differently in ways that can help them and the relationshp move forward.

    110 About the progression of sexual addiction (1 of 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 17, 2024 24:34


    David & Sherie address an issue a listener enquired about - how porn or addiction progresses and if we would speak to that. We begin to explore this issue and agree that it does progress, but there's a lot of nuance. Part 1 of 2.

    109 About the Four Horseman of the Apocalypse for Marriage by John Gottman

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 3, 2024 23:27


    David & Sherie talk about the four things that really hurt relationships: criticism, contempt, defensiveness and stonewalling. Learn more about what those things are, how they show up, and why we want to avoid them!

    108 About finishing up our series on grieving and mourning in healthy, more effective ways

    Play Episode Listen Later May 20, 2024 28:20


    David & Sherie finish talked about mourning and grieving by talking about healthy and unhealthy depression and acceptance, the final two stages in the traditional process of denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and finally acceptance.

    107 More on grieving and mourning in healthy ways

    Play Episode Listen Later May 6, 2024 26:12


    David & Sherie continue talking about grieving in healthy ways, covering anger and bargaining. We will continue to talk about depression and acceptance in future episodes!

    106 About Grieving and handling loss

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 22, 2024 26:48


    David & Sherie begin talking about grieving and how to do it well, or how to release and move through it sooner or more effectively. This will begin a series of episodes following the well know DABDA model of grieving: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance.

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    105 About BPO or Borderline Personality Disorder (2 of 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2024 30:59


    David & Sherie finish talking about borderline and what to do to help and encourage someone struggling with it.

    104 About BPO or Borderline Personality Disorder (1 of 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 25, 2024 27:29


    David & Sherie start to talk about another important relationship dynamic that might include borderline personality disorder, referred to simply as borderline. What does it look like, what's behind it, and eventually, what can we do with it?

    103 About the equation for sobriety (2 of 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 11, 2024 32:29


    David & Sherie finish talking about the equation for sobriety by finishing the final items: sobriety = self-worth + overcoming addiction enabling patterns + motivation + tools + accountability + consequences. Discover what's missing in order to better establish and maintain sobriety in your life!

    102 About the equation for sobriety (1 of 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2024 19:32


    David & Sherie talk about what the actual equation is for sobriety and more about each item. Sobriety = self-worth + overcoming addiction enabling patterns + motivation + tools + accountability + consequences. We begin to go into each one of these to help you discover what's missing for you if you're not sober!

    101 About establishing and maintaining sobriety (1 of 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 12, 2024 23:31


    David & Sherie begin talking about sobriety and what it is, and how it's the beginning of the recovery process. We talk about what it is and what it isn't, what white knuckling is and begin a conversation on how to get sober long-term.

    100 About creating a marriage contract

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 29, 2024 20:00


    David & Sherie talk about creating a marriage contract that helps guide the relationship and teaches both partners about the needs of their spouse. Good for rebuilding as well as starting at the beginning!

    99 About levels of trust and safety

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 15, 2024 31:25


    David & Sherie talk about how trust and safety in the relationship isn't all or nothing, and this can actually hinder recovery, reconciliation and healing. What are the different levels and how can we think about this? This episode will help with this concept.

    98 About our final tools for coming out of victimhood

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 2024 25:53


    David & Sherie finish talking about steps to come out of victimhood including personal safety versus relationship safety and finding ultimate meaning from hard things that have happened in the relationship.

    97 About specific steps to overcome victimhood

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 18, 2023 20:21


    David & Sherie talk about specific steps to take in order to come out of victimhood and into a healthier, better place. This includes having empathy and differentiating between unwilling and unable and other helpful tools. This is part 1 of 2 to finish our series on victimhood.

    96 About how to start coming out of victimhood by making meaning from suffering

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2023 23:49


    David & Sherie start to talk about how to make meaning out of meaning and how to use this to move from victim to survivor to creator. We also recommend the book The Choice by Edith Eger and how to create positive meaning from negative experiences.

    95 About why victimhood is not where you want to be (2 of 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 20, 2023 20:52


    David & Sherie continue talking about the negatives of being in a victim stance or remaining in victimhood. We will then follow up on what to do about it!

    94 About why victimhood is not where you want to be (1 of 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 6, 2023 22:24


    David & Sherie talk about the downsides of being in victimhood and why it's not what it's cracked up to be. This is the first part of two episodes.

    93 About defining victimhood and what characterizes it

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 23, 2023 26:21


    David & Sherie talk about what victimhood is and how to know if you or someone else might be in it, or what characteristics define being in a victim stance. This comes before we talk about why it can be so dangerous to growth.

    92 About beginning a conversation on victimhood

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 9, 2023 26:03


    David and Sherie begin a conversation about victimhood, and how to avoid being in victimhood despite being a legitimate victim of betrayal or other situation.

    91 About finishing NPD and how to manage using BIFF and other techniques

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 25, 2023 30:22


    David & Sherie review some ways to deal with being in a relationship with someone who is NPD using BIFF (brief, informative, friendly, and firm) and other techniques.

    90 About patterns in the NPD cyle

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 11, 2023 19:07


    David & Sherie talk about aspects of the NPD cycle, or how they engage with other people. This will help you to recognize even more if you're caught in these patterns.

    89 About dealing with Narcissism, what to do now?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 28, 2023 38:26


    David & Sherie talk now about how to deal with people who struggle with narcissism and how to try to manage through challenging relationships.

    88 About Narcissistic personality disorder Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 14, 2023 28:54


    David & Sherie continue talking about narcissism and different classifications or manifestations of it and what it means in relationships.

    87 About Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2023 23:39


    David & Sherie start to explore what narcissism is and how to spot it. This is the first in a series where we explore not only what it is but how to deal with someone who is a narcissist.

    86 About our final parenting episode

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 17, 2023 21:49


    David & Sherie finish talking about parenting as we've spent some time on different ways to help parent your children and this is the final principles we want to share.

    85 About more on parenting principles

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 3, 2023 20:26


    David & Sherie continue talking about important parenting principles that will make a difference if you implement them!

    84 About parenting and important considerations for children

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 19, 2023 17:45


    David & Sherie continue talking about parenting and how best to parent with confidence to help your children receive what they need.

    83 About more parenting advice and help

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 5, 2023 29:44


    David and Sherie continue talking about parenting and consistency and other helpful concepts.

    82 About parenting and overcoming our weaknesses

    Play Episode Listen Later May 22, 2023 36:12


    David and Sherie talk about parenting and how to overcome our weaknesses as we have children and learn how to best approach this important and challenging aspect of life and growth.

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