Podcast appearances and mentions of Richard Schwartz

12/21/2025 - Hebrews 1:1-4 - First Things First - The Supremacy of Christ by Richard Schwartz

In this live episode, Tricia Eastman joins to discuss Seeding Consciousness: Plant Medicine, Ancestral Wisdom, Psychedelic Initiation. She explains why many Indigenous initiatory systems begin with consultation and careful assessment of the person, often using divination and lineage-based diagnostic methods before anyone enters ceremony. Eastman contrasts that with modern frameworks that can move fast, rely on short trainings, or treat the medicine as a stand-alone intervention. Early Themes: Ritual, Preparation, and the Loss of Container Eastman describes her background, including ancestral roots in Mexico and her later work at Crossroads Ibogaine in Mexico, where she supported early ibogaine work with veterans. She frames her broader work as cultural bridging that seeks respect rather than fetishization, and assimilation into modern context rather than appropriation. Early discussion focuses on: Why initiatory traditions emphasize purification, preparation, and long timelines Why consultation matters before any high-intensity medicine work How decades of training shaped traditional initiation roles Why people can get harmed when they treat medicine as plug and play Core Insights: Alchemy, Shadow, and Doing the Work A major throughline is Eastman's critique of the belief that a psychedelic alone will erase trauma. She argues that shadow work remains part of the human condition, and that healing is less about a one-time fix and more about building capacity for relationship with the unconscious. Using alchemical language, she describes "nigredo" as fuel for the creative process, not as something to eliminate forever. Key insights include: Psychedelics are tools, not saviors You cannot outsource responsibility to a pill, a modality, or a facilitator Progress requires practice, discipline, and honest engagement with what arises "Healing" often shows up as obstacles encountered while trying to live and create Later Discussion and Takeaways: Iboga, Ethics, and Biocultural Stewardship Joe and Tricia move into a practical and ethically complex discussion about iboga supply chains, demand pressure, and the risks of amplifying interest without matching it with harm reduction and reciprocity. Eastman emphasizes medical screening, responsible messaging, and supporting Indigenous-led stewardship efforts. She also warns that harm can come from both under-trained modern facilitators and irresponsible people claiming traditional legitimacy. Concrete takeaways include: Treat iboga and ibogaine as high-responsibility work that demands safety protocols Avoid casual marketing that encourages risky self-administration Support Indigenous-led biocultural stewardship and reciprocity efforts Give lineage carriers a meaningful seat at the table in modern policy and clinical conversations Frequently Asked Questions Who is Tricia Eastman? Tricia Eastman is an author, facilitator, and founder of Ancestral Heart. Her work focuses on cultural bridging, initiation frameworks, and Indigenous-led stewardship. What is Seeding Consciousness about? The book examines plant medicine through initiatory traditions, emphasizing consultation, ritual, preparation, and integration rather than reductionistic models. Why does Tricia Eastman critique modern psychedelic models? She argues that many models remove the ritual container and long-form preparation that reduce risk and support deeper integration. Is iboga or ibogaine safe? With the right oversite, yes. Eastman stresses that safety depends on cardiac screening, careful protocols, and experienced oversight. She warns against informal or self-guided use. How can people support reciprocity and stewardship? She encourages donating or supporting Indigenous-led biocultural stewardship initiatives like Ancestral Heart and aligning public messaging with harm reduction. Closing Thoughts This episode makes a clear case that Tricia Eastman Seeding Consciousness is not only a book about psychedelics, but a critique of how the field is developing. Eastman argues that a successful future depends on mature containers, serious safety culture, and respectful partnership with lineage carriers, especially as interest in iboga and ibogaine accelerates. Links https://www.ancestralheart.com https://www.innertraditions.com/author/tricia-eastman Transcript Joe Moore Hello, everybody. Welcome back. Joe Moore with you again from Psychedelics Today, joined today by Tricia Eastman. Tricia, you just wrote a book called Seeding Consciousness. We're going to get into that a bunch today, but how are you today? [00:00:16.07] - Tricia Eastman I'm so good. It's exciting to be live. A lot of the podcasts I do are offline, and so it's like we're being witnessed and feels like just can feel the energy behind It's great. [00:00:31.11] - Joe Moore It's fun. It's a totally different energy than maybe this will come out in four months. This is real, and there's people all over the world watching in real-time. And we'll get some comments. So folks, if you're listening, please leave us some comments. And we'd love to chat a little bit later about those. [00:00:49.23] - Tricia Eastman I'm going to join the chat so that I can see... Wait, I just want to make sure I'm able to see the comments, too. Do I hit join the chat? [00:01:01.17] - Joe Moore Sometimes you can, sometimes you can't. I can throw comments on the screen so we can see them together. [00:01:07.02] - Tricia Eastman Cool. [00:01:08.03] - Joe Moore Yeah. So it'll be fun. Give us comments, people. Please, please, please, please. Yeah, you're all good. So Tricia, I want to chat about your book. Tell us high level about your book, and then we're going to start digging into you. [00:01:22.10] - Tricia Eastman So Seeding Consciousness is the title, and I know it's a long subtitled Plant Medicine, Ancestral Wisdom, Psychedelic Initiation. And I felt like it was absolutely necessary for the times that we are in right now. When I was in Gabon in 2018, in one of my many initiations, as as an initiative, the Fung lineage of Buiti, which I've been practicing in for 11 years now, I was given the instructions. I was given the integration homework to write this book. And I would say I don't see that as this divine thing, like you were given the assignment. I think I was given the assignment because it's hard as F to write a book. I mean, it really tests you on so many levels. I mean, even just thinking about putting yourself out there from a legal perspective, and then also, does it make any sense? Will anyone buy it? And on Honestly, it's not me. It's really what I was given to write, but it's based on my experience working with several thousand people over the years. And really, the essence of it is that in our society, we've taken this reductionistic approach in psychedelics, where we've really taken out the ritual. [00:02:54.05] - Tricia Eastman Even now with the FDA trial for MDMA for PTSD. There's even conversations with a lot of companies that are moving forward, psychedelics, through the FDA process, through that pathway, that are talking about taking the therapy out. And the reality is that in these ancient initiatic traditions, they were very long, drawn out experiences with massive purification rituals, massive amounts of different types of practice in order to prepare oneself to meet the medicine. Different plants were taken, like vomatifs and different types of purification rituals were performed. And then you would go into this profound initiatic experience because the people that were working with you that were in, we call it the Nema, who gives initiations, had decades of training and experience doing these types of initiatic experiences. So if you compare that to the modern day framework, we have people that go online and get a certificate and start serving people medicine or do it in a context where maybe there isn't even an established container or facilitator whatsoever. And so really, the idea is, how can we take the essence of this ancient wisdom wisdom, like when you look at initiation, the first step is consultation, which is really going deep into the history of the individual using different types of techniques that are Indigenous technologies, such as different forms of divination, such as cowrie shell readings. [00:04:52.18] - Tricia Eastman And there's different types of specific divinations that are done in different branches of And before one individual would even go into any initiation, you need to understand the person and where they're coming from. So it's really about that breakdown of all of that, and how can we integrate elements of that into a more modern framework. [00:05:24.23] - Joe Moore Brilliant. All right. Well, thank you for that. And let's chat about you. You've got a really interesting past, very dynamic, could even call it multicultural. And you've got a lot of experience that informed this book. So how did this stuff come forward for you? [00:05:50.02] - Tricia Eastman I mean, I've never been the person to seek anything. My family on my mother's side is from Mexico, from Oaxaca, Trique, Mixtec, and Michica. And we had a long lineage of practice going back to my, at least I know from my great, great grandmother, practicing a blend of mestiza, shamanism, combining centerea and Catholicism together. So it's more of like a syncratic mestiza, mestiza being mixed tradition. And so I found it really interesting because later on, when my grandfather came to the United States, he ended up joining the military. And in being in the US, he didn't really have a place. He's very devout spiritual man, but he didn't have a place to practice this blended spiritual tradition. So the mystical aspect of it went behind. And as I started reconnecting to my ancestral lineage, this came forth that I was really starting to understand the mystical aspect of my ancestry. And interestingly, at the same time, was asked to work at Crossroads Abigain in Mexico. And it's so interesting to see that Mexico has been this melting pot and has been the place where Abigain has chosen to plant its roots, so to say, and has treated thousands of veterans. [00:07:36.28] - Tricia Eastman I got to be part of the group of facilitators back over 10 years ago. We treated the first Navy Seals with Abogaine, and that's really spurred a major interest in Abogaine. Now it's in every headline. I also got 10 I got initiated into the Fung lineage of Buiti and have really studied the traditional knowledge. I created a nonprofit back in 2019 called Ancestral Heart, which is really focused on Indigenous-led stewardship. Really, the book helps as a culmination of the decade of real-world experience of combining My husband, Dr. Joseph Barzulia. He's a psychologist. He's also a pretty well-known published researcher in Abigain and 5MEO-DMT, but also deeply spiritual and deeply in respect for the Indigenous traditions that have carried these medicines before us. So we've really been walking this complex path of world bridging between how we establish these relationships and how we bring some of these ancient knowledge systems back into the forefront, but not in a way of fetishizing them, but in a way of deeply respecting them and what we can learn, but from our own assimilation and context versus appropriation. So really, I think the body of my work is around that cultural bridging. [00:09:31.07] - Joe Moore That's brilliant. And yeah, there's some really fun stuff I learned in the book so far that I want to get into later. But next question is, who is your intended audience here? Because this is an interesting book that could hit a few categories, but I'm curious to hear from you. [00:09:49.02] - Tricia Eastman It's so funny because when I wrote the book, I wasn't thinking, oh, what's my marketing plan? What's my pitch? Who's my intended audience? Because it was my homework, and I knew I needed to write the book, and maybe that was problematic in the sense that I had to go to publishers and have a proposal. And then I had to create a formula in hindsight. And I would say the demographic of the book mirrors the demographic of where people are in the psychedelic space, which It's skewed slightly more male, although very female. I think sex isn't necessarily important when we're thinking about the level of trauma and the level of spiritual healing and this huge deficit that we have in mental health, which is really around our disconnection from our true selves, from our heart, from our souls, from this idea of of what Indigenous knowledge systems call us the sacred. It's really more of an attitude of care and presence. I'm sure we could give it a different name so that individuals don't necessarily have any guard up because we have so much negative conditioning related to the American history of religion, which a lot of people have rejected, and some have gone back to. [00:11:37.06] - Tricia Eastman But I think we need to separate it outside of that. I would say the demographic is really this group of I would say anywhere from 30 to 55 male females that are really in this space where maybe they're doing some of the wellness stuff. They're starting to figure some things out, but it's just not getting them there. And when something happens in life, for example, COVID-19 would be a really great example. It knocks them off course, and they just don't have the tools to find that connection. And I would say it even spans across people that do a lot of spiritual practice and maybe are interested in what psychedelics can do in addition to those practices. Because when we look at my view on psychedelics, is they fit within a whole spectrum of wellness and self-care and any lineage of spiritual practice, whether it's yoga or Sufism or Daoist tradition. But they aren't necessarily the thing that... I think there's an over focus on the actual substance itself and putting it on a pedestal that I think is problematic in our society because it goes back to our religious context in the West is primarily exoteric, meaning that we're seeking something outside of ourselves to fulfill ourselves. [00:13:30.29] - Tricia Eastman And so I think that when we look at psychedelic medicines as this exoteric thing versus when we look at initiatory traditions are about inward and direct experience. And all of these spiritual practices and all of these modalities are really designed to pull you back into yourself, into having a direct relationship with yourself and direct experience. And I feel like the minute that you are able to forge that connection, which takes practice and takes discipline, then you don't need to necessarily look at all these other tools outside of yourself. It's like one of my favorite analogies is the staff on the Titanic were moving the furniture around as it was sinking, thinking that they might save the boat from sinking by moving the furniture around. I think that's how we've been with a lot of ego-driven modalities that aren't actually going into the full unconscious, which is where we need to go to have these direct experiences. Sorry for the long answer, but it is for everybody, and it's not just about psychedelics. Anyone can take something from this doing any spiritual work. But we talk a lot about the Indigenous philosophy and how that ties in alongside with spiritual practice and more of this inner way of connecting with oneself and doing the work. [00:15:21.22] - Tricia Eastman And I think also really not sugar coating it in the sense that the psychedelics aren't going to save us. They're not going to cure PTSD. Nothing you take will. It's you that does the work. And if you don't do the work, you're not going to have an 87 % success rate with opioid use disorder or whatever it is, 60 something % for treatment-resistant depression or whatever. It's like you have to do the work. And so we can't keep putting the power in the modality reality or the pill. [00:16:03.18] - Joe Moore Yeah, that makes sense. So you did an interesting thing here with this book, and it was really highlighting aspects of the alchemical process. And people don't necessarily have exposure. They hear the words alchemy. I get my shoulders go up when I hear alchemizing, like transmutation. But it's a thing. And how do we then start communicating this from Jung? I found out an interesting thing recently as an ongoing student. Carl Jung didn't necessarily have access to all that many manuscripts. There's so many alchemical manuscripts available now compared to what he had. And as a result, our understanding of alchemy has really evolved. Western alchemy, European alchemy, everybody. Perhaps Kmetic, too. I don't know. You could speak to that more. I don't keep track of what's revealed in Egypt. So it's really interesting to present that in a forward way? How has it been received so far? Or were you nervous to present this in this way? [00:17:25.10] - Tricia Eastman I mean, honestly, I think the most important The important thing is that in working with several thousand people over the years, people think that taking the psychedelic and the trauma is going to go away. It's always there. I mean, we We archetypically will have the shadow as long as we need the shadow to learn. And so even if we go into a journey and we transcend it, it's still there. So I would say that the The feedback has been really incredible. I mean, the people that are reading... I mean, I think because I'm weaving so many different, complex and deep concepts into one book, it might be a little harder to market. And I think the biggest bummer was that I was really trying to be respectful to my elders and not say anything in the title about Iboga and Abigain, even though I talk a lot about it in the book, and it's such a hot topic, it's really starting to take off. But the people that have read it really consider it. They really do the work. They do the practices in the book, and I'm just getting really profound feedback. So that's exciting to me because really, ultimately, alchemy... [00:18:55.22] - Tricia Eastman Yeah, you're right. It gets used Used a lot in marketing lingo and sitting in the depth of the tar pit. For me, when I was in Gabon, I remember times where I really had to look at things that were so dark in my family history that I didn't even realize were mine until later connected to my lineage. And the dark darkness connected to that and just feeling that and then knowing really the truth of our being is that we aren't those things. We're in this process of changing and being, and so nothing is is fixed, but there is a alchemical essence in just learning to be with it. And so not always can we just be with something. And and have it change, but there are many times that we can actually just be with those parts of ourselves and be accepting, where it's not like you have to have this intellectualized process It's just like, first you have the negrado, then you tune into the albeda, and you receive the insights, and you journal about it, and da, da, da, da, da Action, Mars aspect of it, the rubeda of the process. It's not like that at all. [00:20:44.15] - Tricia Eastman It's really that the wisdom that comes from it because you're essentially digesting black goo, which is metaphoric to the oil that we use to power all of society that's pulled deep out of the Earth, and it becomes gold. It becomes... And really, the way I like to think of it is like, in life, we are here to create, and we are not here to heal ourselves. So if you go to psychedelic medicine and you want to heal yourself, you're going to be in for... You're just going to be stuck and burnt out because that's not what we're here to do as human beings, and you'll never run out of things to heal. But if you You think of the negrado in alchemy as gasoline in your car. Every time you go back in, it's like refilling your gas tank. And whatever you go back in for as you're moving in the journey, it's almost like that bit of negrado is like a lump of coal that's burning in the gas tank. And that gets you to the next point to which there's another thing related to the creative process. So it's like As you're going in that process, you're going to hit these speed bumps and these obstacles in the way. [00:22:07.29] - Tricia Eastman And those obstacles in the way, that's the healing. So if you just get in the car in the human vehicle and you drive and you continue to pull out the shadow material and face it, you're going to keep having the steam, but not just focus on it, having that intention, having that connection to moving forward in life. And I hate to use those words because they sound so growth and expansion oriented, which life isn't always. It's evolutionary and deevolutionary. It's always in spirals. But ultimately, you're in a creative process would be the best way to orient it. So I think when we look at alchemy from that standpoint, then it's productive. Effective. Otherwise, it sounds like some brand of truffle salt or something. [00:23:09.12] - Joe Moore Yeah, I think it's a... If people want to dig in, amazing. It's just a way to describe processes, and it's super informative if you want to go there, but it's not necessary for folks to do the work. And I like how you framed it quite a bit. So let's see. There is one bit, Tricia, that my ears really went up on this one point about a story about Actually, let me do a tangent for you real quick, and then we're going to come back to this story. So are you familiar with the tribe, the Dogon, in Africa? Of course. Yeah. So they're a group that looks as though they were involved in Jewish and/or Egyptian traditions, and then ended up on the far side of like, what, Western Africa, far away, and had their own evolution away from Egypt and the Middle East. Fascinating. Fascinating stories, fascinating astronomy, and much more. I don't know too much about the religion. I love their masks. But this drew an analogy for me, as you were describing that the Buiti often have stories about having lineage to pre-dynastic Egyptian culture. I guess we'll call it that for now, the Kometic culture. [00:24:44.23] - Joe Moore I had not heard that before. Shame on me because I haven't really read any books about Buiti as a religion or organization, or anything to this point. But I found that really interesting to know that now, at least I'm aware of two groups claiming lineage to that ancient world of magic. Can you speak about that at all for us? Yeah. [00:25:09.24] - Tricia Eastman So first off, there really aren't any books talking about that. Some of the things I've learned from elders that I've spoke with and asked in different lineages in Masoco and in Fong Buiti, there's a few things. One, We lived in many different eras. Even if you go into ancient texts of different religions, creation stories, and biblical stories, they talk about these great floods that wiped out the planet. One of the things that Atum talks about, who is one of my Buiti fathers who passed a couple years ago, is Is the understanding that before we were in these different areas, you had Mu or Lumaria, you had Atlantis, and then you had our current timeline. And the way that consciousness was within those timelines was very different and the way the Earth was. You had a whole another continent called Atlantis that many people, even Plato, talks about a very specific location of. And what happened, I believe during that time period, Africa, at least the Saharan band of the desert was much more lush, and it was a cultural melting pot. So if you think about, for example, the Pygmy tribes, which are in Equatorial Africa, they are the ones that introduced Iboga to the Buiti. [00:27:08.08] - Tricia Eastman If you look at the history of ancient Egypt, what I'm told is that the Pygmies lived in Pharaonic Egypt, all the way up until Pharaonic Egypt. And there was a village. And if you look on the map in Egypt, you see a town called Bawiti, B-A-W-I-T-I. And that is the village where they lived. And I have an interesting hypothesis that the God Bess, if you look at what he's wearing, it's the exact same to a T as what the Pygmies wear. And the inspiration for which a lot of the Buiti, because they use the same symbology, because each part of the outfit, whether it's the Mocingi, which is like this animal skin, or the different feathers, they use the parrot feather as a symbology of speech and communication, all of these things are codes within the ceremony that were passed along. And so when you look at Bess, he's wearing almost the exact same outfit that the Pygmies are wearing and very similar to if you see pictures of the ceremonies of Misoko or Gonde Misoko, which I would say is one of the branches of several branches, but that are closer to the original way of Buiti of the jungle, so closer to the way the Pygmies practice. [00:28:59.16] - Tricia Eastman So If you look at Bess, just to back my hypothesis. So you look at Neteru. Neteru were the... They called them the gods of Egypt, and they were all giant. And many say the word nature actually means nature, but they really represented the divine qualities of nature. There's best. Look at him. And a lot of the historians said he's the God of Harmeline and children and happiness. I think he's more than the God of Harmeline, and I think that the Pygmies worked with many different plants and medicines, and really the ultimate aspect of it was freedom. If you think about liberation, like the libation, number one, that's drunkiness. Number two, liberation, you of freeing the joyous child from within, our true nature of who we are. You look at every temple in Egypt, and you look at these giant statues, and then you have this tiny little pygmy God, and there's no other gods that are like Bess. He's one of a kind. He's in his own category. You've You've got giant Hathor, you've got giant Thoth, you've got giant Osiris, Isis, and then you've got little tiny Bess. And so I think it backs this hypothesis. [00:30:48.27] - Tricia Eastman And my understanding from practitioners of Dogon tradition is that they also believe that their ancestors came from Egypt, and they definitely have a lot of similarity in the teachings that I've seen and been exposed to just from here. I mean, you can... There's some more modern groups, and who's to know, really, the validity of all of it. But there are some, even on YouTube, where you can see there's some more modern Dogon temples that are talking in English or English translation about the teachings, and they definitely line up with Kamehdi teachings. And so my hypothesis around that is that the Dogon are probably most likely pygmy descendants as, And the pygmy were basically run out of Bawiti because there was jealousy with the priest, because there was competition, because all of the offerings that were being made in the temple, there was a lot of power, connected to each of the temples. And there was competitiveness even amongst the different temples, lining the Nile and all of that, of who was getting the most offerings and who was getting the most visits. And so the Pygmies essentially were run out, and they migrated, some of them migrated south to Gabon and Equatorial Africa. [00:32:43.07] - Tricia Eastman And then If you think about the physical changes that happened during these planetary catastrophes, which we know that there had been more than one based on many historical books. So that whole area went through a desertification process, and the Equatorial rainforest remained. So it's highly likely even that Iboga, at one point, grew in that region as well. [00:33:18.00] - Joe Moore Have you ever seen evidence of artwork depicting Iboga there in Egypt? [00:33:24.17] - Tricia Eastman There are several different death temples. I'm trying to remember the name of the exact one that I went to, but on the columns, it looked like Iboga trees that were carved into the columns. And I think what's interesting about this... So Seychet is the divine scribe, the scribe of Egyptian wisdom. And she was basically, essentially the sidekick of Thoth. Thoth was who brought a lot of the ancient wisdom and people like Pythagoras and many of the ancient philosophers in Roman times went and studied in a lot of these Thoth lineage mystery schools. When you look at the the river of the Nile on the east side, east is the energy liturgy of initiation. It's always like if you go into a sweat lodge or if you see an ancient temple, usually the doorway is facing the east. West is where the sun sets, and so that's the death. And what's interesting about that is that it was on the west side in the death temple that you would see these aboga plants. But also Seixat was the one who was the main goddess depicted in the hieroglyphs, and there was other hieroglyphs. I mean, if you look at the hieroglyphs of Seixat, it looks like she has a cannabis leaf above her head, and a lot of people have hypothesized that, that it's cannabis. [00:35:16.03] - Tricia Eastman Of course, historians argue about that. And then she's also carrying a little vessel that looks like it has some mushrooms in it. And obviously, she has blue Lotus. Why would she be carrying around blue Lotus and mushrooms? I don't know. It sounds like some initiation. [00:35:36.19] - Joe Moore Yeah, I love that. Well, thanks so much for going there with me. This photo of Seixet. There's some good animations, but everybody just go look at the temple carvings picturing this goddess. It's stunning. And obviously, cannabis. I think it's hard to argue not. I've seen all these like, mushroom, quote, unquote, mushroom things everywhere. I'm like, Yeah, maybe. But this is like, Yes, that's clear. [00:36:06.27] - Tricia Eastman And if you look at what she's wearing, it's the exact same outfit as Bess, which is classic Basically, how the medicine woman or medicine man or what you would call shaman, the outfit that the healers would wear, the shamans or the oracles, those of the auracular arts, different forms of divination would wear. So if you really follow that and you see, Oh, what's Isis wearing? What's Hathor wearing? What's Thoth wearing? You can tell she's very specifically the healer. And it's interesting because they call her the divine scribe. So she's actually downloading, my guess is she's taking plants and downloading from the primordial. [00:37:02.00] - Joe Moore Well, okay. Thanks for bringing that up. That was a lovely part of your book, was your... There's a big initiation sequence, and then you got to go to this place where you could learn many things. Could you speak to that a little bit? And I hope that's an okay one to bring up. [00:37:22.22] - Tricia Eastman Are you talking about the time that I was in initiation and I went to the different ashrams, the different realms in, like Yogananda calls them astral schools that you go and you just download? It seemed like astral schools, but it seemed like it was a Bwiti initiation, where you were in silence for three days, and then Yeah, that one. So there were several different... I mean, I've done seven official initiations, and then I've had many other initiatic experiences. And I would say this one was incredible. Incredibly profound because what it showed me first was that all of the masters of the planet, it was showing me everyone from Kurt Cobain to Bob Marley to Einstein, all the people that had some special connection to an intelligence that was otherworldly, that they were essentially going to the same place, like they were visiting the same place, and they would go. And so the first thing I noticed was that I recognized a lot of people, and current, I'm not going I don't want to say names of people, but I recognize people that are alive today that I would say are profound thinkers that were going to these places as well. [00:38:57.05] - Tricia Eastman And interestingly, then I was taken into one of the classrooms, and in the classroom, this one, specifically, it showed me that you could download any knowledge instantaneously That essentially, having a connection to that school allowed you to download music or understand very complex ideas ideas of mathematics or physics or science that would take people like lifetimes to understand. So it was essentially showing this. And a lot of people might discredit that, that that might be a specific... That we as humans can do that. Well, I'm not saying that it's not that. I don't I don't want to say that it's anything. But what I can say is that I have definitely noticed the level of access that I have within my consciousness. And also what I notice with the masters of Bwiti, specifically in terms of the level of intelligence that they're accessing and that it's different. It's got a different quality to it. And so it was a really profound teaching. And one of the things, too, that I've learned is I use it to help me learn specific things. I don't know if I can give a positive testimonial, but I am learning French. [00:40:55.00] - Tricia Eastman And I noticed when I was in Aspen at the Abigain meeting, and I was with Mubeiboual, who speaks French, I started saying things French that I didn't even realize that I knew to say. I've had these weird moments where I'm actually using this tool And I'm also using it. I have a Gabonese harp. I don't know if you can see it up on the shelf over there. But I also went and asked for some help with downloading some assistance in the harp, then we'll see how that goes. [00:41:38.17] - Joe Moore Yeah. So that's brilliant. I'm thinking of other precedent for that outside of this context, and I can think of a handful. So I love that, like savant syndrome. And then there's a classic text called Ars Notoria that helps accelerate learning, allegedly. And then there's a number of other really interesting things that can help us gain these bits of wisdom and knowledge. And it does feel a little bit like the Dogon. The story I get is the receiving messages from the dog star, and therefore have all sorts of advanced information that they shouldn't we call it. Yeah. Yeah, which is fascinating. We have that worldwide. I think there's plenty of really interesting stuff here. So what I appreciated, Tricia, about how you're structuring your book, or you did structure your book, is that it it seems at the same time, a memoir, on another hand, workbook, like here are some exercises. On the other hand, like here's some things you might try in session. I really appreciated that. It was like people try to get really complicated when we talk about things like IFS. I'm like, well, you don't necessarily have to. You could. Or is this just a human thing, a human way to look at working with our parts? [00:43:20.15] - Joe Moore I don't know. Do you have any thoughts about the way you were approaching this parts work in your book versus how complicated some people make it feel? [00:43:30.00] - Tricia Eastman Yeah. I find that this is just my personal opinion, and no way to discredit Richard Schwartz's work. But parts work has existed in shamanism since forever. When we really look at even in ancient Egypt, Issus, she put Osiris act together. That was the metaphorical story of soul retrieval, which is really the spiritual journey of us reclaiming these pieces of ourselves that we've been disconnected from a society level or individually. And within the context of parts work, it's very organic and it feels other worldly. It's not like there's ever a force where I'm in the process with someone. And a lot of times I would even go into the process with people because they weren't accustomed to how to work with Iboga or game, and so they would be stuck. And then the minute I was like, you know, Iboga, in the tradition, it's really about... It's like the game Marco Polo. It's call and response. And so you're really an active participant, and you're supposed to engage with the spirits. And so the minute that things would show up, it'd be more about like, oh, what do you see? What's coming up here? Asking questions about it, being curious. [00:45:17.07] - Tricia Eastman If you could engage with it, sometimes there's processes where you can't really engage with things at all. So everything that I'm talking about is It was organically shown up as an active engagement process that it wasn't like we were going in. There have been some where you can guide a little bit, but you never push. It might be something like, go to your house, and it being completely unattached. And if they can't go there, then obviously the psyche doesn't want to go there, but it's really an exercise to help them to connect to their soul. And then in contrast, IFS is like, let's work on these different parts and identify these different parts of ourselves. But then let's give them fixed titles, and let's continually in a non-altered state of consciousness, not when we're meditating, not when we're actively in a state where we have the plasticity to change the pathway in the unconscious mind, but we're working in the egoic mind, and we're talking to these parts of ourselves. That could be helpful in the day-to-day struggles. Let's say you have someone who has a lot of rumination or a very active mind to have something to do with that. [00:46:57.01] - Tricia Eastman But that's not going to be the end-all, be-all solution to their problem. It's only moving the deck chairs around on the Titanic because you're still working in the framework where, I'm sorry, the Titanic is still sinking, and it may or may not be enough. It may or may not produce a reliable outcome that could be connected with some level of true relief and true connection within oneself. And so I think that people just... I feel like they almost get a little too... And maybe it's because we're so isolated and lonely, it's like, Oh, now I've got parts. I'm not by myself. I've got my fire I've got my firefighter, and I've got my guardian, and all these things. And I definitely think that IFS is a really great initiator into the idea of engaging with parts of ourselves and how to talk to them. But I don't think it's... And I think doing a session here and there, for some people, can be incredibly helpful, but to all of a sudden incorporate it in like a dogma is toxic. It's dangerous. And that's what we have to be really careful of. [00:48:23.25] - Joe Moore So thank you for that. There's a complicated discussion happening at the Aspen meeting. I think I was only sitting maybe 30 feet away from you. Sorry, I didn't say hi. But the folks from Blessings of the Forest were there, and I got a chance to chat with a number of them and learn more about nuclear protocols, biopiracy, literal piracy, and smuggling, and the works. I'm curious. This is a really complicated question, and I'm sorry for a complicated question this far in. But it's like, as we talk about this stuff publicly and give it increased profile, we are de facto giving more juice and energy to black markets to pirate. We're adding fuel to this engine that we don't necessarily want to see. Cameroon has nothing left, pretty much. From what I'm told, people from Cameroon are coming in, stealing it from Cabona, bringing it back, and then shipping it out. And there's It's like a whole worldwide market for this stuff. I witnessed it. This stuff. Yeah, right? This is real. So the people, the Buiti, and certain Gabanese farmers, are now being pirated. And international demand does not care necessarily about Nagoya compliance. United States didn't sign Nagoya protocol for this biopiracy protection, but we're not the only violator of these ethics, right? [00:50:00.22] - Joe Moore It's everywhere. So how do we balance thinking about talking about IBOCA publicly, given that there's no clean way to get this stuff in the United States that is probably not pirated materials? And as far as I know, there's only one, quote unquote, Nagoya compliant place. I've heard stories that I haven't shared publicly yet, that there's other groups that are compliant, too. But it's a really interesting conversation, and I'm curious of your perspectives there. [00:50:34.04] - Tricia Eastman I mean, this is a very long, drawn-out question, so forgive me if I give you a long, drawn-out answer. [00:50:41.01] - Joe Moore Go for it. [00:50:41.26] - Tricia Eastman It's all good. So in reality, I do believe... You know the first Ebo, Abogaine, that was done in the country was experiments on eight Black prisoners at a hospital under the MK program. [00:51:01.16] - Joe Moore Pre-lutz off, we were doing Abogaine tests on people. [00:51:06.00] - Tricia Eastman Yeah, so pre-Lutz off. I have a hypothesis, although a lot of people would already know me. [00:51:12.07] - Joe Moore No, I didn't know that. Thank you for sharing that with me. [00:51:14.13] - Tricia Eastman That's great. I'll send you some stuff on that. But the Aboga wanted to be here. The Abogaine wanted to be here. I think it's a complex question because on one side of the coin, you have the spirit of plants, which are wild and crazy sometimes. And then you have the initiatory traditions, which create a scaffolding to essentially put the lightning in a bottle, so to say, so that it's less damaging. [00:51:51.13] - Joe Moore It's almost like a temple structure around it. [00:51:53.16] - Tricia Eastman I like that. Yeah. Put a temple structure around it because it's like, yeah, you can work with new nuclear energy, but you have to wear gloves, you have to do all these different safety precautions. I would say that that's why these traditions go hand in hand with the medicine. So some people might say that the agenda of Iboga and even Abogaine might be a different agenda than the Buiti. And ultimately, whether we are Indigenous or not, the Earth belongs to everyone. It's capitalism and the patriarchy that created all these borders and all these separations between people. And in reality, we still have to acknowledge what the essence of Buiti is, which is really the cause and effect relationship that we have with everything that we do. And so some people might use the term karma. And that is if you're in Abogaine clinic and you're putting a bunch of videos out online, and that's spurring a trend on TikTok, which we already know is a big thing where people are selling illegal market, iBoga, is Is any of that your responsibility? Yes. And if I was to sit down with a kogi kagaba, which are the mamus from Colombia, or if I were to sit down with a who said, Hey, let's do a divination, and let's ask some deep questions about this. [00:53:54.01] - Tricia Eastman It would look at things on a bigger perspective than just like, Oh, this person is completely responsible for this. But when we're talking about a medicine that is so intense, and when I was younger, when I first met the medicine, I first was introduced in 2013 was when I first found out about Abigain and Iboga. And in 2014, I lived with someone who lived with a 14th generation Misoko, maybe it was 10th generation Misoco in Costa Rica. And then he decided to just start serving people medicine. And he left this person paralyzed, one person that he treated for the rest of his life. And Aubrey Marcus, it was his business partner for On It, and he's publicly talked about this, about the story behind this. If you go into his older podcasts and blog posts and stuff, he talks about the situation. And the reality is that this medicine requires a massive amount of responsibility. It has crazy interactions, such as grapefruit juice, for example, and all kinds of other things. And so it's not just the responsibility towards the buiti, it's also the responsibility of, does me talking about this without really talking about the safety and the risks, encourage other people. [00:55:49.10] - Tricia Eastman One of the big problems, back in the day, I went to my first guita conference, Global Abogaine Therapy Alliance in 2016. And And then, ISEARs was debating because there was all these people buying Abogaine online and self-detoxing and literally either dying or ending up in the hospital. And they're like, should we release protocols and just give people instructions on how to do this themselves? And I was like, no, absolutely not. We need to really look at the fact that this is an initiatory tradition, that it's been practiced for thousands of that the minimum level at which a person is administering in Gabon is 10 years of training. The way that we've made up for those mistakes, or sorry, not mistakes, lack of training is that we've used medical oversight. Most of the medical oversight that we've received has been a result of mistakes that were made in the space. The first patient that MAPS treated, they killed them because they gave them way over the amount of what milligrams per kilogram of Abigain that you should give somebody. Every single mistake that was made, which a lot of them related to loss of life, became the global Abogane Therapy Safety Guidelines. [00:57:28.19] - Tricia Eastman And so we've already learned from our mistakes here. And so I think it's really important that we understand that there's that aspect, which is really the blood on our hands of if we're not responsible, if we're encouraging people to do this, and we're talking about it in a casual way on Instagram. Like, yeah, microdosing. Well, did you know there was a guy prosecuted this last year, personal trainer, who killed someone And from microdosing in Colorado, the event happened in 2020, but he just got sentenced early 2025. These are examples that we need to look at as a collective that we need. So that's one side of it. And then the other side of it is the reciprocity piece. And the reciprocity piece related to that is, again, the cause and effect. Is A Abogaine clinic talking about doing Abogaine and doing video testimonials, spurring the efforts that are actively being made in Gabon to protect the cultural lineage and to protect the medicine. The reality is every Abogaine clinic is booked out for... I heard the next year, I don't know if that's fact or fiction, but someone told me for a year, because because of all the stuff with all the celebrities that are now talking about it. [00:59:05.20] - Tricia Eastman And then on top of that, you have all these policy, all these different advocacy groups that are talking about it. Essentially, it's not going to be seven... It's going to be, I would say, seven to 10 years before something gets through the FDA. We haven't even done a phase one safety trial for any of the Abigain that's being commercialized. And even if there's some magic that happens within the Trump administration in the next two years that changes the rules to fast track it, it's not going to cut it down probably more than a year. So then you're looking at maybe six years minimum. That whole time, all that strain is being put on Gabon. And so if you're not supporting Gabon, what's happening is it's losing a battle because the movement is gaining momentum, and Gabon cannot keep up with that momentum. It's a tiny country the size of Colorado. So my belief is that anyone who's benefiting from all the hype around Iboga and Abogayne or personally benefited with healing within themselves should be giving back, either to Ancestral Heart, to Blessings of the Forest, to any group that is doing authentic Indigenous-led biocultural stewardship work. [01:00:45.21] - Joe Moore Thanks for that. It's important that we get into some detail here. I wish we had more time to go further on it. [01:00:54.17] - Tricia Eastman I'll do a quick joke. I know. I have a lot. [01:00:57.17] - Joe Moore Yes. Now do Mike Tyson. Kidding. Yeah. So what did we maybe miss that you want to make sure people hear about your book, any biocultural stuff that you want to get out there? You can go for a few more minutes, too, if you have a few things you want to say. [01:01:20.03] - Tricia Eastman I mean, really, thank you so much for this opportunity. Thank you for caring and being so passionate about the context related to Buiti, which I think is so important. I would just say that I've been working with this medicine for... I've known about it for 13 years, and I've been working with it for 11 years, and this is my life. I've devoted my life to this work, me and my husband, both. And there isn't anything greater of a blessing that it has brought in our life, but it also is it's a very saturnian energy, so it brings chaos. It brings the deepest challenges and forces you to face things that you need to face. But also on the other side of the coin, everything that I've devoted and given back in service to this work has exponentially brought blessing in my life. So again, I see the issue with people doing these shortened processes, whether it's in an Abigain clinic where you just don't have the ritualistic sacred aspects of an initiatic context and really the rituals that really help integrate and ground the medicine. But you still have this opportunity to continue to receive the blessings. [01:03:09.23] - Tricia Eastman And I really feel in our current psychedelic movement, we essentially have a Bugatti. These medicines are the most finely-tuned sports car that can do every... Even more than that, more like a spaceship. We have this incredible tool, but we're driving it in first gear. We don't even really know how to operate it. It's like, well, I guess you could say flight of the Navigator, but that was a self-driving thing, and I guess, psychedelics are self-driving. But I feel that we are discounting ourselves so greatly by not looking into our past of how these medicines were used. I really think the biggest piece around that is consulting the genuine lineage carriers like Buiti elders, like Mubu Bwal, who's the head of Maganga Manan Zembe, And giving them a seat at the head of the table, really, because there's so much I know in my tradition, about what we do to bring cardiac safety. And why is it that people aren't dying as much in Gabon as they're dying in Abigan clinics. [01:04:37.28] - Joe Moore Shots fired. All right. I like it. Thank you. Thank you for everything you've done here today, I think harm reduction is incredibly important. Let's stop people dying out there. Let's do some harm reduction language. I actually was able to sweet talk my way into getting a really cool EKG recently, which I thought really great about. If you can speak clinician, you can go a long way sometimes. [01:05:11.20] - Tricia Eastman Yeah. Oh, no, go ahead. Sorry. [01:05:15.17] - Joe Moore No, that's all. That's all. So harm reduction is important. How do we keep people safe? How do we keep healing people? And thank you for all your hard work. [01:05:27.22] - Tricia Eastman Thank you. I really appreciate it. We're all figuring it out. No one's perfect. So I'm not trying to fire any shots at anybody. I'm just like, Guys, please listen. We need to get in right relationship with the medicine. And we need to include these stakeholders. And on the other side of the coin, I just want to add that there's a lot of irresponsible, claimed traditional practitioners that are running retreat centers in Mexico and Costa Rica and other places that are also causing a lot of harm, too. So the medical monitoring is definitely, if you're going to do anything, Because these people don't have the training, the worst thing you could do is not have someone going in blind that doesn't have training and not have had an EKG and all that stuff. But we've got a long way to go, and I'm excited to help support in a productive way, all coming together. And that's what me and Joseph have been devoted to. [01:06:45.02] - Joe Moore Brilliant. Tricia Eastman, thank you so much. Everybody should go check out your book Seeding Consciousness out now. The audiobook's lovely, too. Thank you so much for being here. And until next time. [01:07:00.14] - Tricia Eastman Thank you.    

Robert Falconer is best known for his extensive involvement with Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapy as a practitioner, teacher, and writer. For the past decade or more Bob Falconer has devoted himself full-time to IFS work. In that time he has attended all levels of IFS training offered, and has been at many workshops and events with Richard Schwartz both as assistant and participant. In addition to studying with many of the other senior IFS trainers, He also co-authored a book with Richard Schwartz entitled, Many Minds, One Self. His other books include The Others Within Us, When You're Going Through Hell ...Keep Going, and just recently released this month, Spirit. His focus is now on the study of spiritual presence experiences.His new book is OUT NOW!https://robertfalconer.us/spirit-book/Chris Hancock is a licensed clinical social worker, therapist, and founder of Therapy Outside the Box. Through a variety of holistic and integrative approaches rooted in connection, clinical and personal experience, Chris incorporates more spiritual practices into his counseling work blending dynamic, relational, intuitive, energetic, transpersonal Internal Family Systems, quasi-shamanic, modern mystical, creative and practical approaches. Chris helps awakening souls discover all parts of Self, heal & release what doesn't serve, transform breakdowns into breakthroughs, and embody greater wholeness, purpose, vitality, authenticity and awakened empowerment.Learn more about Chris:therapyoutsidethebox.comIG @therapyoutsidethebox--Get in touch: robinsmithshow@gmail.comCall the hotline: +1 (301) 458-0883Follow Robin on Insight Timer: https://insighttimer.com/robinsmithBecome a supporter on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/therobinsmithshowGot a question? We'd love to hear from you!

12/14/2025 - Colossians 1:15-20 - First Things First: The Preeminence of Christ by Richard Schwartz

This week, Thomas is joined once again by the founder of Internal Family Systems, Dr. Richard Schwartz, for a deep exploration of how we can integrate collective trauma work into our daily lives, relationships, and communities.Combining wisdom from psychology and spiritual traditions, they discuss fresh insights on creating a holistic healing framework for modern times that expands our traditional understanding of therapy and healing by addressing deeply ingrained ancestral and collective wounds.They also explore the power of accessing the core Self to help us release individual and inherited burdens, and how this process of unburdening can accelerate our collective evolution and influence the greater health of humanity.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:

Richard Schwartz and Cece Sykes, who—along with Martha Sweezy— have recently co-authored a book on Internal Family Systems for Addictions. Richard is the Founder of the Internal Family Systems (IFS) Model, a pioneering approach to psychotherapy which can be used to treat a wide range of problems, including eating disorders, self harm, addiction, and trauma. Cece is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and IFS Senior Trainer with over thirty years of clinical experience working with individuals, couples and families, specialising in working with the effects of trauma and addiction. In this lively and wide-ranging discussion, we cover: — A basic intro to the IFS Model — The root causes of addiction from an IFS lens — Why IFS offers a highly effective treatment modality for addictive processes — Best practices for using IFS when treating addiction and also important things to avoid. And more. You can learn more about Cece's work at www.cecesykeslcsw.com and find out information about Dr Schwartz's upcoming IFS trainings by visiting www.ifs-institute.com. --- Cece Sykes, LCSW, ACSW; IFS Senior Trainer, US and international. Contributed to Levels 1 and 2 IFS training manuals and teaches L1 as well as L2 Trauma and Addiction. Cece has over thirty years of clinical experience working with individuals, couples and families, specializing in work with the effects of trauma and addiction. Her chapter on compassionate approaches to addictive process appears in IFS: Innovations and Elaborations, 2016, Routledge. Cece also has special interests in spiritual practices intersecting with therapy and in the impact of psychotherapy upon the life of the therapist and she lectures, consults and leads workshops on all of these topics. Cece lives and works in the city of Chicago. Richard Schwartz, PhD., began his career as a systemic family therapist and an academic. Grounded in systems thinking, Dr. Schwartz developed Internal Family Systems (IFS) in response to clients' descriptions of various parts within themselves. He focused on the relationships among these parts and noticed that there were systemic patterns to the way they were organized across clients. He also found that when the clients' parts felt safe and were allowed to relax, the clients would experience spontaneously the qualities of confidence, openness, and compassion that Dr. Schwartz came to call the Self. He found that when in that state of Self, clients would know how to heal their parts. A featured speaker for national professional organizations, Dr. Schwartz has published many books and over fifty articles about IFS. Learn more at: www.ifs-institute.com. --- 3 Books Cece Recommends Every Therapist Should Read: — Drug use for grown-ups: Chasing liberty in the land of fear - Dr. Carl L. Hart - https://amzn.to/41YvsCJ — Unbroken Brain, A Revolutionary New Way of Understanding Addiction - Szalavitz, Maia - https://amzn.to/3oVEBgu — No Bad Parts; Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with IFS. Sounds- Richard Schwartz - https://amzn.to/3NuwDFu 3 Books Richard Recommends Every Therapist Should Read: — Internal Family Systems Therapy for Addictions - Cece Sykes, Martha Sweezy, Richard C. Schwartz - https://amzn.to/3Hyyqpc — Internal Family Systems Therapy: Second Edition - Richard Schwartz - https://amzn.to/44sagX9 — Introduction to Internal Family Systems- Richard Schwartz - https://amzn.to/3HBfgiC

Two of my favorite teachers started collaborating with one another to help us to individually, and collectively, release our burdens, heal, and deepen connection: Internal Family Systems (IFS) founder Richard Schwartz and group facilitator Thomas Hübl. Today, they share their process, helpful exercises and tools, and more from their new book, Releasing Our Burdens. For links to my previous episodes with Dick and Thomas, and all the show notes, head to my Substack.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

11/30/2025 - John 1:1-18 - First Things First - The Incarnation by Richard Schwartz

Book summary of No Bad Parts written by Richard Schwartz, it's an introduction to Internal Family Systems model aka IFS Therapy. Learn the skills to Regulate your Emotions, join the membership: https://courses.therapyinanutshell.com/membership Looking for affordable online counseling? My sponsor, BetterHelp, connects you to a licensed professional from the comfort of your own home. Try it now for 10% off your first month: https://betterhelp.com/therapyinanutshell Learn more in one of my in-depth mental health courses: https://courses.therapyinanutshell.com Support my mission on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/therapyinanutshell Sign up for my newsletter: https://www.therapyinanutshell.com Check out my favorite self-help books: https://kit.co/TherapyinaNutshell/best-self-help-books  Therapy in a Nutshell and the information provided by Emma McAdam are solely intended for informational and entertainment purposes and are not a substitute for advice, diagnosis, or treatment regarding medical or mental health conditions. Although Emma McAdam is a licensed marriage and family therapist, the views expressed on this site or any related content should not be taken for medical or psychiatric advice. Always consult your physician before making any decisions related to your physical or mental health. In therapy I use a combination of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, Systems Theory, positive psychology, and a bio-psycho-social approach to treating mental illness and other challenges we all face in life. The ideas from my videos are frequently adapted from multiple sources. Many of them come from Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, especially the work of Steven Hayes, Jason Luoma, and Russ Harris. The sections on stress and the mind-body connection derive from the work of Stephen Porges (the Polyvagal theory), Peter Levine (Somatic Experiencing) Francine Shapiro (EMDR), and Bessel Van Der Kolk. I also rely heavily on the work of the Arbinger Institute for my overall understanding of our ability to choose our life's direction. And deeper than all of that, the Gospel of Jesus Christ orients my personal worldview and sense of security, peace, hope, and love https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/comeuntochrist/believe If you are in crisis, please contact the National Suicide Prevention Hotline at https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org or 1-800-273-TALK (8255) or your local emergency services. Copyright Therapy in a Nutshell, LLC

How can joy and curiosity help us navigate the most difficult times in our lives?This week, Thomas is joined once again by Dr. MaryCatherine McDonald, a trauma researcher, life coach, and author, to explore how curiosity and imagination are some of our most important and most trainable tools when we're facing relational conflicts, traumatic experiences, grief and loss, and anxiety inducing news cycles. It might seem counterintuitive, but these resources give us much needed perspective, help us foster deeper, more genuine connections, and bring awareness to inner patterns that aren't serving us.Thomas and Dr. McDonald also discuss the deeply relational nature of trauma, the need for collective awareness and witnessing to bring about healing, breaking cycles, and the complex nature of evil.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:

In this heartfelt episode, Tina Tower explores the very real experience of self-doubt as a business owner. Drawing from over two decades in business and personal moments of vulnerability, she shares tangible strategies for recognizing, managing, and overcoming self-doubt at every stage of your entrepreneurial journey. Key Topics Covered Self-Doubt Is Part of the Entrepreneurial Ride Tina Tower normalizes self-doubt, sharing personal stories from her own journey, including reaching 100 members in Her Empire Builder and facing challenges after her son's accident. How Self-Doubt Shows Up Procrastination, endlessly tweaking but never launching, underpricing offers, avoiding visibility, and seeking constant validation—all signs of self-doubt. Real-Life Solutions and Mindset Tools Naming your self-doubt Using journaling prompts: What would I do if I fully believed in myself? What is the actual fear behind my hesitation? Where have I succeeded before, and what did it take? Reframing failure as part of the messy middle and essential to growth The Power of Community and Support Letting yourself be supported by others, especially in tough times Building cheerleader circles and masterminds for external perspective Managing Comparison and Keeping Focus Advice on running your own race and putting blinders on to avoid comparison-itis Confidence Is Built by Action Confidence doesn't come before success—it grows from repeatedly showing up and taking micro steps Protecting Your Energy The importance of morning routines, listening to inspiring content, reducing social media usage, and staying connected to your purpose Celebrating Small Wins The value of keeping a "proof file" of positive feedback to revisit during low-confidence moments Knowing When to Rest Recognizing the difference between true self-doubt and just needing to recharge As you step back into your day, remember that self-doubt is simply part of building something meaningful—not a stop sign. Keep taking those small, brave steps, lean on your people when you need to, and celebrate every win along the way. You're doing better than you think, and your confidence will keep growing each time you show up. Resources Mentioned: Books: "No Bad Parts" by Richard Schwartz; "Self Help" by Gabby Bernstein; "Epic Retirement" and "Prime Time" by Beck Wilson App: Opal (social media blocker) https://www.opal.so/ Where to find Tina: Her Empire Builder: https://www.herempirebuilder.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tina_tower/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@herempirebuilder

Feeling disconnected or stuck? In this short teaching from Thomas, you'll learn how to tap into an embodied awareness of your inner light and channel the higher consciousness of your soul to unlock creativity, innovation, and direction for your future. This deep session offers guidance on refining your inner world to listen for the subtle stream of future insights, bringing needed updates and making you more open to previously unseen potential paths.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:

This week, Thomas sits down with Dr. Richard Schwartz, the founder of Internal Family Systems, for an in-depth discussion on the power of healing in groups, intergenerational and ancestral trauma healing, and the relationship between therapy and spirituality—all topics that are featured in their forthcoming book; Releasing Our Burdens: A Guide to Healing Individual, Ancestral, and Collective Trauma.Thomas and Dr. Schwartz dive deep into the phenomena of ancestral and collective "legacy burdens", which are traumas from our shared past that unconsciously drive our current behavior and societal conflicts. They share therapeutic and spiritual strategies for addressing these inherited wounds, and discuss the urgent need for what Thomas calls a “collective healing architecture” to mend social fragmentation and revitalize our democratic systems.They also share insights on the importance of our interconnection with the natural world and the need for safe spaces to access “Self Energy,” where the profound impacts of individual parts work can amplify collective healing.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:

11/16/2025 - Ezekiel 37:1-14 - Can These Bones Live? by Richard Schwartz

**SPECIAL ENCORE PRESENTATION** Richard “Dick” Schwartz earned his PhD in marriage and family therapy from Purdue University. He coauthored the most widely used family therapy text in the United States, Family Therapy: Concepts and Methods, and is the creator of the Internal Family Systems Model, which he developed in response to clients' descriptions of various “parts” within themselves. With Sounds True, Dick has written a new book titled No Bad Parts: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with the Internal Family Systems Model. In this episode of Insights at the Edge, Tami Simon talks to Dick about the transformation that occurs when we welcome every part of who we are. He explains that even our most destructive parts have protective intentions, put in place to shield us from unprocessed pain, and details his method for accessing and mending these inner wounds. They also discuss the myth of the “mono mind,” and why the mind is naturally multiple; how “exiled” trauma can manifest as bodily pain; connecting with our core Self and letting it lead us in our healing; and how the language of “parts” can be useful in our relationship dynamics. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Listeners of Insights At The Edge get 10% off their first month at www.betterhelp.com/soundstrue.

**SPECIAL ENCORE PRESENTATION** Richard “Dick” Schwartz earned his PhD in marriage and family therapy from Purdue University. He coauthored the most widely used family therapy text in the United States, Family Therapy: Concepts and Methods, and is the creator of the Internal Family Systems Model, which he developed in response to clients' descriptions of various “parts” within themselves. With Sounds True, Dick has written a new book titled No Bad Parts: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with the Internal Family Systems Model. In this episode of Insights at the Edge, Tami Simon talks to Dick about the transformation that occurs when we welcome every part of who we are. He explains that even our most destructive parts have protective intentions, put in place to shield us from unprocessed pain, and details his method for accessing and mending these inner wounds. They also discuss the myth of the “mono mind,” and why the mind is naturally multiple; how “exiled” trauma can manifest as bodily pain; connecting with our core Self and letting it lead us in our healing; and how the language of “parts” can be useful in our relationship dynamics. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Listeners of Insights At The Edge get 10% off their first month at www.betterhelp.com/soundstrue.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Send us a textIn this powerful conclusion to the Shadow Into Light series, host Andrea Atherton takes you deep into the sacred process of healing your shadow through the lens of Internal Family Systems (IFS) and Jungian psychology. Discover how the parts of yourself you once rejected, the jealous one, the controller, the avoider, are not your enemies but wounded protectors longing for compassion. Andrea explores how IFS provides a roadmap for integrating these parts into conscious wholeness, offering a bridge between Carl Jung's wisdom of shadow integration and Dr. Richard Schwartz's transformative IFS model.Through storytelling, Andrea brings to life a couple's journey from reactivity to reconnection. You'll witness how two partners learned to pause, unblend from their protectors, and speak from their Higher Selves, turning conflict into an opportunity for healing. This episode dives into the roles of protectors, managers, and exiles, showing how love deepens when both people learn to witness and soothe each other's inner worlds. With poetic warmth and psychological depth, Andrea invites listeners to see relationships as sacred mirrors where the shadow can be integrated, not feared.Join Andrea as she guides you toward Self-led intimacy, where love becomes less about perfection and more about presence. Whether you're a therapist, couple, or spiritual seeker, this episode will illuminate how embracing your shadow creates emotional safety, lasting connection, and true inner freedom. 30-minute Consultation with Andrea https://www.andreaatherton.com/booking-calendarAndrea Atherton Websitehttps://www.andreaatherton.com/Love Anarchy Websitehttps://www.andreaatherton.com/podcasthttps://loveanarchypodcast.buzzsprout.comLove Anarchy Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/loveanarchypodcast/Andrea Atherton Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/andreaatherton-17/

Dr. Angele Close is back on the podcast! Today, we're diving deeper into letting go of mom shame and how to build a new relationship within ourselves so we can release that guilt and stress and show up in a more loving, kind, open-hearted way.You'll learn:Why the myths and expectations of society are like swimming in a fishbowlWhat it feels like to be in Self energyHow something as simple as placing your hand over your heart can soothe you in times of stress4 ways to tap into your SelfDr. Angele's story of how she became less reactive with her sonToday's episode is part 2 of my conversation with Dr. Angele Close. If you missed last week's episode, be sure to go back and check it out here. You can also find links to my previous episodes on the Internal Family Systems model (IFS) at the end of the show notes.---------------------------------------Dr. Angele uses the Internal Family Systems model in her therapy and coaching in order to help moms unburden themselves from trauma, guilt, stress, burnout, overwhelm, and that mental load that you're carrying in your head. She then teaches them how to relate to the stressors of parenting in a different way so that they can feel more joyful, calm, present, and able to actually enjoy the experience of raising kids. Turning Myths into EmpowermentIn last week's episode, we talked a lot about the myths of motherhood, including the Good Mom myth.There is so much about mom culture in our society that is toxic. The messaging all around us is sending messages that we basically have to be Supermom, or else we're failing. Dr. Angele says, “It's oppressive. It's life limiting…The liberation comes in the awareness of it.” When it comes to these myths, we have to ask ourselves, “What am I believing? What are the parts of me that have come to believe some of this stuff?”When you understand the answers to these questions, you can actually design your own experience of motherhood. It is an opportunity for awakening and empowerment. Dr. Angele says, “I think becoming a mother is a gateway for us to become our true, authentic self. That's the invitation. That's the true power.” Self Energy and Being Self-Led“Self” was conceptualized by Dr. Richard Schwartz, who created IFS. It's that place inside yourself that is just you. He talks about an energy of being coherent and connected. Your body, heart, and mind are all in the same place.Dr. Angele thinks of it as our soul energy. She says, “It's the energy within yourself which every human has. And it's not changed or tarnished by anything that you've been through or that's happened to you.”One example Dr. Angele shared was the image of the sky. Your Self energy is the sun, and your parts are the clouds. Even on a cloudy, overcast day, the sun is always there. Working with Your Parts - the Manager and the FirefighterUnfortunately, we're not living fully in Self energy every day. That's not realistic when we live in a complex world that often feels unsafe or stressful. That's when our “parts” take the wheel. These other parts come in to help us navigate and cope and live in the real world. They're a bit like our armor, our protection. When we can drop that armor and unburden our parts, we become more aware and conscious to choose our beliefs and energy.The Manager and the Firefighter are two of our Self-protective parts, and they come up a lot with moms. You might also discover parts that are a caregiver, critic, or coach. I've even named some of mine: iPad girl and Wild Child. Have a little fun with...

11/2/2025 - Isaiah 40:27-31 - Why Do You Complain, Jacob? by Richard Schwartz

10/26/2025 - Luke 5:27-32 - What Jesus Didn't Come to Do by Richard Schwartz

10/12/2025 - 1 Kings 19:1-18 - What Are You Doing Here? by Richard Schwartz

Today's episode features Ralph De La Rosa. Ralph was the author of three books, including Outshining Trauma: A New Vision of Radical Compassion (foreword by Richard Schwartz). He was a psychotherapist in private practice and a longtime meditation teacher known for his radically honest and humorous approach. His work was featured in GQ, CNN, NY Post, Tricycle, Mindful Magazine, and beyond.Perhaps most crucial is that Ralph walked the path of outshining trauma alongside the people he worked with. He was a survivor of PTSD, heroin addiction, Borderline Personality Disorder, ADHD, and liver failure. Walking through these matters with the help of profound therapists and mentors became an empowerment no school could have offered. It was simply part of his path to offer back what he had been shown.Ralph mentored personally with Richard Schwartz, founder of the Internal Family Systems model of psychotherapy, known for its efficacy in healing trauma. He also completed an invite-only advanced teacher training with Jack Kornfield.He began practicing meditation in 1996 and trained in a spectrum of yogic and healing traditions, including devotional Hinduism and Tibetan Buddhism. Ralph began teaching Buddhist-inspired meditation in 2008. He identified as a practitioner and teacher of human spirituality, offering a highly specialized hybrid of IFS and Buddhism to guide students on a direct path of conscious evolution and self-discovery.As a therapist, Ralph was a summa cum laude graduate of Fordham University. He spent his earliest days working in NYC's clinical foster care system where he trained in multiple modalities of trauma-focused therapy. He maintained a small roster of therapy clients for the love of witnessing transformation up close.Ralph was also an intersectional activist, musician, wannabe acrobat, and outdoor enthusiast, who made his home in Seattle, WA. His teachings and writings continue to inspire and support people navigating trauma and transformation.Some of the topics we covered in this episode include:A beginning guided meditationWhat drew Ralph to IFSOverlaps with ACT and IFSThe value of living with an open heartAnd Ralph guides me through some experiential IFS work—————————————————————————Outshining Trauma: https://a.co/d/cQ8kREn—————————————————————————Thank you all for checking out the episode! Here are some ways to help support Mentally Flexible:Sign up for PsychFlex through the Mentally Flexible link! PsychFlex.com/MentallyFlexibleYou can help cover some of the costs of running the podcast by donating a cup of coffee! www.buymeacoffee.com/mentallyflexiblePlease subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. It only takes 30 seconds and plays an important role in being able to get new guests.https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mentally-flexible/id1539933988Follow the show on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mentallyflexible/Check out my song “Glimpse at Truth” that you hear in the intro/outro of every episode: https://tomparkes.bandcamp.com/track/glimpse-at-truthCheck out my new album, Holding Space! https://open.spotify.com/album/0iOcjZQhmAhYtjjq3CTpwQ?si=nemiLnELTsGGExjfy8B6iw

10/5/2025 - Joshua 7:1-26 - Why Have You Fallen on Your Face? by Richard Schwartz

Send us a textIn this powerful continuation of the Shadow Into Light series, host Andrea Atherton invites listeners into the heart of love's most hidden terrain — the shadow parts we carry into relationships. Building on the foundation of Episode One, Andrea weaves together the wisdom of Carl Jung's shadow and Dr. Richard Schwartz's Internal Family Systems model to illuminate how these disowned parts of ourselves show up in partnership. Far from being simply “bad behaviors,” these parts are protective, reactive, and deeply human, often surfacing as jealousy, criticism, withdrawal, or defensiveness.Through relatable examples and heartfelt reflections, Andrea reveals how these shadow parts collide in what she calls the shadow dance — the repeating cycles of conflict and projection that so many couples find themselves locked into. Listeners will discover how unresolved wounds from the past can magnify small moments into painful ruptures, and why arguments with a partner often feel more intense than the situation at hand. With compassion and clarity, Andrea shows that these patterns aren't signs of failure, but opportunities for self-discovery and growth.Ultimately, this episode is an invitation to see love not only as a mirror of our light, but also as a container for healing our shadows. Andrea guides listeners toward gentle practices for noticing when a “part” is activated and reminds us that every conflict is an opening to bring compassion where there was once blame. Episode 221 offers hope that by learning to meet our shadows with tenderness, we can shift from disconnection to deeper intimacy, transforming the shadow dance into a path of conscious love.30-minute Consultation with Andrea https://www.andreaatherton.com/booking-calendarAndrea Atherton Websitehttps://www.andreaatherton.com/Love Anarchy Websitehttps://www.andreaatherton.com/podcasthttps://loveanarchypodcast.buzzsprout.comLove Anarchy Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/loveanarchypodcast/Andrea Atherton Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/andreaatherton-17/

In this episode, we explore the more mystical, spiritual, and hard-to-pin-down ideas sprinkled throughout No Bad Parts. From talk of the Self as an eternal essence to the almost magical way parts seem to heal, we unpack the “woo-woo” elements of the book — the ones that made us pause, smile, or scratch our heads. Join us as we wrestle with what feels profound, what feels out-there, and how even the woo might hold wisdom. Buy the book No Bad Parts: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with the Internal Family Systems by Richard Schwartz Join the library and get a FREE I.F.S. Coaching session. Join now and we will send you the link to book. Cancel anytime. https://www.thewholenessnetwork.com/membership Watch the video version in the wholeness library. Explore The Wholeness Library App FREE! Apple: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wholeness-library/id1545002697 ⁠ Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.thewholenessnetwork.thewholenessnetwork On the web https://www.thewholenessnetwork.com/⁠ Follow us ⁠https://www.instagram.com/thewholenessnetwork/⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/thewholenessnetwork⁠ Leave us a message! tel:646-883-3350 Information is intended for entertainment only Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chalene and Mechelle are currently in IFS coaching training and we invited our practice group partner Julie Davis to join us for a conversation about parts work and the wisdom of Richard Schwartz's No Bad Parts. We share real experiences, challenges, and “aha” moments from both studying and practicing IFS together. Connect with Julie Instagram http://thisisbluebook.com Bluebooktutoring.com Buy the book No Bad Parts: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with the Internal Family Systems by Richard Schwartz Check out the other books we discussed. Running on Empty The Tao of Fully Feeling Watch the video version in the wholeness library. Explore The Wholeness Library App FREE! Apple: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wholeness-library/id1545002697 ⁠ Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.thewholenessnetwork.thewholenessnetwork On the web https://www.thewholenessnetwork.com/⁠ Follow us ⁠https://www.instagram.com/thewholenessnetwork/⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/thewholenessnetwork⁠ Leave us a message! tel:646-883-3350 Information is intended for entertainment only Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feeling lost on the creative journey? Download our 7 step Creative Career Path Handbooklet for FREE by signing up to our newsletter: http://andyjpizza.substack.com --- If you're a creative type, you probably don't quite fit into the systems you were born into. This can be VERY DIFFICULT. There's a lot of pressure for folks like us to beat ourselves up into a shape that fits society. In this episode, I want to share the number 1 thing that changed my life as a creative person, and resources that can help you adopt this shift too!! SHOW NOTES:Right Side Out Seriesandyjpizza.com/rso No Bad Parts by Richard Schwartz, PhDhttps://ifs-institute.com/nobadparts Good Inside by Dr. Beckyhttps://www.goodinside.com/book/Simulacra and Simulationhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation Producer / Editor: Sophie Miller http://sophiemiller.coAudio Editing / Sound Design: Conner Jones http://pendingbeautiful.coSoundtrack / Theme Song: Yoni Wolf / WHY? http://whywithaquestionmark.com SPONSORS:SQUARESPACEHead to https://www.squarespace.com/PEPTALK to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code PEPTALK Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Send us a textIn this first episode of the Shadow Into Light series, host Andrea Atherton invites you into the world of shadow work and parts healing. Drawing on Carl Jung's timeless teachings and the transformative model of Internal Family Systems (IFS) developed by Dr. Richard Schwartz, Andrea unpacks what it truly means to explore the hidden aspects of ourselves. These are the parts we often exile — the jealousy, shame, anger, or fear — yet they hold the keys to our wholeness and deeper connection.We'll explore how Jung described the shadow as the unconscious repository of everything we suppress, and how IFS offers us a compassionate roadmap for meeting those parts with curiosity and care. Rather than battling or suppressing them, we learn to listen — to understand the role each part plays in protecting us and how they long to be welcomed home. By shifting our relationship with these inner dynamics, we open the door to profound healing and authenticity.This episode is an invitation to pause, reflect, and begin noticing the parts of yourself that arise in your daily life and relationships. Andrea guides you with reflection prompts and practical insights to help you take the first step into this journey. Because when we begin to embrace our shadows, we step closer to the truth of who we are — and create the foundation for love that is whole, honest, and deeply alive.30-minute Consultation with Andrea https://www.andreaatherton.com/booking-calendarAndrea Atherton Websitehttps://www.andreaatherton.com/Love Anarchy Websitehttps://www.andreaatherton.com/podcasthttps://loveanarchypodcast.buzzsprout.comLove Anarchy Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/loveanarchypodcast/Andrea Atherton Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/andreaatherton-17/

We explore the surprising compatibility of Internal Family Systems with a Thomistic understanding of the human person. The modern pioneer of parts work, Richard Schwartz, originator of IFS harmonizes with the medieval angelic doctor of the Church, St. Thomas Aquinas. Join Thomistic philosopher Dr. Anthony Flood, Catholic psychologist Dr. Eric Gudan and me, Dr. Peter, as we discuss how the goodness of IFS can be modified and grounded in the excellence of a Thomistic anthropology.   For the full video experience with all our visuals, gestures, and graphics, and for conversation and sharing in the comments section, check us out on our YouTube channel here:  www.youtube.com/@InteriorIntegration4Catholics

Robert Falconer is best known for his extensive involvement with Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapy as a practitioner, teacher, and writer. For the past decade or more Bob Falconer has devoted himself full-time to IFS work. In that time he has attended all levels of IFS training offered, and has been at many workshops and events with Richard Schwartz both as assistant and participant. In addition to studying with many of the other senior IFS trainers, He also co-authored a book with Richard Schwartz entitled, Many Minds, One Self. His other books include The Others Within Us and When You're Going Through Hell ...Keep Going. His focus is now on the study of spiritual presence experiences.Jerry Marzinsky BA M.Ed. is a retired licensed psychotherapist with over 40 years of experience working with and studying the thought processes of psychotic and criminally insane patients in some of the most volatile psychiatric institutions in the nation. Jerry is a commercial pilot, certified SCUBA diver and long distance motorcyclist. He has held the positions of 2nd Lt. in the Arizona Civil Air Patrol and Assistant Scout Master. He was awarded the state of Arizona's meritorious service award and the Pima College Apple award of teaching Abnormal Psychology. His formal academic training comprises a B.A. in Psychology from Temple University, a Master's Degree in Counseling from the University of Georgia, and two years of study in a Ph.D. Psychology program. He is the co-author of An Amazing Journey Into The Psychotic Mind - Breaking The Spell Of the Ivory Tower and currently has a private practice in Arizona.Learn more about Bob and his work:https://robertfalconer.us/When You're Going Through Hell ...Keep Going: Trauma, Healing, Spirit, and Internal Family Systemshttps://amz.run/98NoThe Others Within Us: Internal Family Systems, Porous Mind, and Spirit Possessionhttps://amz.run/98NnMany Minds, One Self: Evidence for a Radical Shift in Paradigmhttps://amz.run/98NvLearn more about Jerry and his work:https://www.jerrymarzinsky.com/https://www.causisminstitute.com/about/causism/https://www.amazon.com/Causism-Discover-Emotional-Health-Well-Being/dp/0646959409https://www.amazon.com/Energy-Over-Mind-Control-Method-ebook/dp/B0080GUMJUSeptember Breathwork Challenge!Every day of September, we will do this 10 minute morning routine (asynchronously)Breathe with Sandy - 10 Minute Morning Breathwork Routinehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb9YxCC5WBwMaryland Renaissance FestivalLET MERRIMENT ABOUND WITH ENTERTAINMENT, FEASTING AND CRAFTS FOR ALL! Visit https://rennfest.com/ and get your tickets today.Light the NightLLS is on a mission to cure blood cancers and improve quality of life for the nearly 1.7 million people in the U.S. living with or in remission from blood cancer.Help Team Zavadowski reach our fundraising goal! Thank you for your generous donations:https://pages.lls.org/ltn/fdk/Montcomd25/rsmith--Get in touch: robinsmithshow@gmail.comCall the hotline: +1 (301) 458-0883Follow Robin on Insight Timer: https://insGot a question? We'd love to hear from you!

9/14/2025 - Exodus 14:5-25 - Why Do You Cry to Me? by Richard Schwartz

How do we break free from old programming and step into conscious leadership?In this episode of the Leadership Launchpad Podcast, hosts Susan Hobson and Tracey Allen are joined by TedX speaker and best selling author Matt Zemon, who shares why he believes that psychedelics are catalysts, not cures; opening the door to healing trauma, quieting shame and guilt, unlocking creativity, curiosity, courage, empowerment, adaptability and remembering our interconnectedness.We explore how integration and neuroplasticity create lasting change, why most leadership training fails without depth, and how leaders can adapt in an era of AI and disruption.From challenging workaholism and striving to embracing presence, balance, and wholeness, this conversation explores how conscious leadership expands our awareness, and helps us live fulfilling lives by catalyzing our potential. ✨ If you're a high achiever, entrepreneur, or corporate  leader seeking to lead with clarity and alignment, this dialogue is for you.Watch our previous discussion with Matt - Maximizing Impact with Richard Schwartz, Wesley Eugene, Zach Mercurio, Matt Zemon, and David Irvinehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPXX_2XAT8g&feature=youtu.beThe SHOCKING Truth About Psychedelics for Everyone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6090H5BNbA

9/7/2025 - 1 Corinthians 12:12-26 - Members of One Body by Richard Schwartz

In this episode, we dive into Richard Schwartz's book No Bad Parts, which introduces the principles of Internal Family Systems (IFS) and its transformative view that every part of us — even the ones we'd rather get rid of — has value and purpose. We talk through the core ideas of the book, our reactions, and how this perspective can change the way we relate to ourselves and others. Whether you're new to IFS or already exploring your inner world, this conversation will give you insights and maybe even a little self-compassion. Buy the book No Bad Parts: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with the Internal Family Systems by Richard Schwartz Join the library in September 2025 and get a FREE I.F.S. Coaching session. Join now and we will send you the link to book. Cancel anytime. https://www.thewholenessnetwork.com/membership Watch the video version in the wholeness library. Explore The Wholeness Library App FREE! Apple: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wholeness-library/id1545002697 ⁠ Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.thewholenessnetwork.thewholenessnetwork On the web https://www.thewholenessnetwork.com/⁠ Follow us ⁠https://www.instagram.com/thewholenessnetwork/⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/thewholenessnetwork⁠ Leave us a message! tel:646-883-3350 Information is intended for entertainment only Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Is your drive to achieve, please, or protect coming from a wounded part of you, rather than your true Self? Josh Trent welcomes Richard Schwartz, Creator of Internal Family Systems, to the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast, episode 767, to reveal why there are no “bad parts” within us, how trauma freezes pieces of our psyche in the past, and how to free yourself from legacy burdens passed down through generations. In This Episode, Richard C. Schwartz Uncovers: [01:10] What Is Parts Work? The definition of parts work. Why all parts of ourselves are valuable. How trauma freezes us in the past. Why we try to escape our parts to avoid feeling their pain. The role of exile and protector parts. How the firefighter parts try to get us away from our feelings to protect us. Resources: Richard C. Schwartz [07:45] The Difference Between Your Part and Your Self How each of us has an essence that is the Self. Why children take on different roles within their families to protect themselves. How we can heal the critic part. [13:40] Parts Work Isn't Inner Child Work Why thinking and feeling create different results. Why inner child work is not the same as parts work. How becoming the primary caretaker of our younger parts frees our partner from doing that for us. Resources: No Bad Parts by Dr. Richard Schwartz [17:20] Passive Vs. Active Parts Work How spiritual traditions teach how to observe our parts from a passive place. Why we're naturally inclined to listen to our parts as if they were our children. How 80% people who participate in plant medicine ceremonies tend to do the parts work after. The 8 C's of leadership. Resources: Michael Mithoefer MD [22:10] There Are No Bad Parts How Carl Jung impacted Richard's work. Why Carl Jung wasn't an active leader. How Richard used to believe some parts were bad. Why working with murderers and sex offenders showed him that there were no bad parts. How he had to work on a part of himself to turn judgment into compassion. Resources: Fritzi Horstman (Compassion Prison Project) [29:35] You Can't Save Your Parents How Josh healed a part of himself that needed to control others. Why some children feel the urge to save their parents. How we can show our younger self when they're stuck with our parents. Resources: 748 If Talk Therapy Worked, You'd Feel Better: New MDMA Therapy Breakthrough | Mike Zeller [32:30] Healing a Legacy Burden (Practical Exercise) Practical demonstration of how we can talk to our younger parts. Why Josh's younger part believed sex was bad and shameful. How legacy burdens are passed down from generation to generation. Why Josh learned from his dad what sex was.   [50:45] Are You a High Achiever? It Could Be Your Wound... Why we need to continue to have conversations with the parts we're healing. How Richard worked on his achiever part. Why we can turn our protector parts into parts that serve us. How 90% of all businesses and buildings built come from men trying to prove themselves to their fathers. Why healthy growth comes from the self. The importance of self-leadership in the evolution of the world. Resources: 503 Paul Levy | Wetiko: Break Free From Collective Mass Psychosis [59:55] The Rise of IFS Therapy Why Richard is asking for guidance from God. How he developed IFS while working in psychiatry. Why we can have entities attach to us that are not our parts. How he's trying to bring IFS to the culture. Resources: The Others Within Us by Robert Falconer [01:04:50] Evil Entities Don't Lie The difference between an entity and a part. Why evil entities don't lie. How psychedelics open the door for entities to attach to us. Resources: How to Achieve Inner Peace & Healing | Dr. Richard Schwartz on The Huberman Lab Podcast 692 Paul Chek | Spirit Gym: How To Find The Truth of Your Soul + Live Your Dream [01:08:10] Parts vs. Self How Richard's guides keep him humble about the work he's brought to the world. Why practitioners who don't have humility have the need for approval and praise. How some parts can imitate the true self. Why the self has a desire to bring healing without any agenda. How psychedelics, combined with IFS, bring back the self. [01:13:15] The Future of IFS Why it takes up to 7 years to become an IFS trainer. How many people nowadays teach an incomplete version of IFS. Why IFS brings light to the world. Resources: The Internal Family Systems Workbook by Richard Schwartz Leave Wellness + Wisdom a Review on Apple Podcasts

8/24/2025 - Exodus 4:1-9 - What Is That in Your Hand? by Richard Schwartz

In today's episode, I chat with David Hoffman, a lawyer, mediator, and a founding member of Boston Law Collaborative. David was named "Lawyer of the Year" in Boston, and he even teaches at Harvard! I love how he's using IFS to help people with conflict. We talk about how IFS has shifted his focus from getting people to settle, to helping them make Self-led choices. We discuss: How does a lawyer and mediator bring the language of parts into a legal setting? What is the "reasonable reason" behind "unreasonable behavior" in conflict? How can we make decisions from a place of "Self-led" wisdom rather than from our "gladiator parts?" How can simply naming a part change the dynamic of a conversation? David shares an example of how saying "there's a greedy part" shifted a negotiation for the better. How does the IFS model help us understand ambivalence and the "negotiation within" that happens before we even enter a conflict? "There's something we can do here to enable people to manage their conflicts more successfully and to be less fearful and less hateful in the world." —David Hoffman I absolutely loved getting to know David and I'm so glad he's bringing the IFS model to a new audience. He's also offering a new six-week IFS training for lawyers and mediators this fall through the IFS Institute with guest appearances by Dick Schwartz, Mke Elkin, and Fatimah Finney. Episode Sponsor: This episode is sponsored by the Internal Family Systems institute. Join renowned attorney and mediator David Hoffman for a six-week live workshop starting this October. Explore how the IFS model can support lawyers, mediators, and conflict professionals to lead with more clarity, compassion, and Self — with special guest appearances by Dick Schwartz, Mike Elkin, and Fatimah Finney, this program offers practical tools for navigating client engagement, negotiation, and ethical decision-making. Space is limited and live attendance is required. Learn more and register now at ifs-institute.com. About David Hoffman David Hoffman, a mediator, arbitrator, and founding member of Boston Law Collaborative, has been a leading voice in bringing the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model to the legal community since 2010. He holds Level One IFS training and has co-presented with IFS founder Dr. Richard Schwartz. A plenary speaker at the 2022 IFSI Conference, his work has been featured in the Harvard Negotiation Law Review, where he authored a seminal article on "Mediation, Multiple Minds, and Managing the Negotiation Within." In addition to his private practice, he serves as the John H. Watson, Jr. Lecturer on Law at Harvard Law School, where he integrates the IFS model into his courses. About The One Inside: Check out The One Inside Substack community to access all episodes, exclusive extended interviews, replays of live events, meditations, and more.  Find The One Inside Self-Led merch at The One Inside store Watch video clips from select episodes on  The One Inside on YouTube Follow Tammy on Instagram @ifstammy and on Facebook at The One Inside with Tammy Sollenberger. Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside. He's a writer and IFS Level 2 practitioner who helps therapists create with clarity and confidence. Are you new to IFS or want a simple way to get to know yourself? Tammy's book, "The One Inside: Thirty Days to your Authentic Self" is a PERFECT place to start.  Sign up for Tammy's email list and get a free "Get to know a Should part of you" meditation on her website Tammy is grateful for Jack Reardon who created music for the podcast.  To learn more about sponsorship opportunties on The One Inside Podcast, email Tammy  

8/17/2025 - Hebrews 10:19-25 - The Call to Community by Richard Schwartz

8/10/2025 - Genesis 18:1-15 - Is Anything Too Hard for the Lord? by Richard Schwartz

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In today's episode of 'Advice My Friends Ignored,' Audrey explores the well-known therapeutic model of Internal Family Systems (IFS). IFS was created by Dr. Richard Schwartz, who suggests that we are comprised of three main parts: Exiles, Firefighters, and Managers. In this episode, Audrey explores each of these parts, examining how they manifest in our lives, what shapes them, and how to take the first steps toward healing these parts.Whether you're familiar with IFS and looking for a refresher or are completely new to IFS, this episode is for you.

Years ago, I was talking to a client about what it truly means to be a Calm Mama. And she realized that the absence of yelling ≠ calm. There is something deeper that we're working toward. An inner wisdom, inner peace, and knowing that you can handle anything that comes along. There might be a lot of chaos around you, but inside you are calm and steady.Today, we begin a new 3-part series on Internal Family Systems (IFS) - a therapeutic model created by Richard Schwartz. One of the central concepts is that everything you need for deep healing and wisdom are already within you.You'll Learn:The 4 parts of Internal Family Systems and how they go togetherHow we get stuck in past pain and traumaExamples of burdens you might be carrying from childhood (and how I'm working through some of my own)How to befriend your core SelfListen to find out how IFS works and how you can use it to move into Self-led energy and feel more peace.-------------------------------------------Why Does Your Peace Matter?We talk about this a lot on the podcast, but in case you're new to my world (or need a quick refresher), there are a lot of reasons that being calm matters as a parent. The big picture is about raising our children in emotionally healthy families so that they grow up to be emotionally healthy adults.This looks like:Letting our kids experience their negative emotionsBeing able to witness their emotional pain without getting upset about their big feelings or behaviorsCommunicating to your kid that they are going to be okayLetting your child know that they are safe and loved, no matter what is happeningWhen we try to prevent our kids from experiencing or expressing negative emotion by over-protecting, over-planning, over-organizing, or bypassing that emotion, we're actually creating little micro wounds in our kids. They are learning to shut down their own feelings, which is not what we want.In order to be able to do the things our kids need for emotional health, we often need to reparent ourselves and heal our own emotional wounds. Maybe there were times when you were told that you weren't good enough, or that you didn't matter, or that the way you felt didn't matter. In order to feel truly at peace, we have to believe that we are loved, safe, worthy, and that we're going to be okay, too.This is much easier said than done. So, how do we get to that place of deep, legit calm? 4 Parts of the Internal Family SystemFeelings drive behavior. And when we don't know what to do with our feelings, we act them out in behaviors or strategies that we think will protect us from pain or help us deal with pain when it comes up.When we're acting from our wounded parts, we act in ways that might hurt us or others. The goal is to act from our whole, healed, healthy parts - the Self. The Self is an embodied sense of who you are at your core - without any pain or wounds. We all come into this world pure and filled with joy, ready to experience all the things in life that come. At our core, what we want to feel is peace.But then the world steps in. We experience all kinds of discomfort, and if we don't get to express and process it, it can get stuck within us. Internal Family Systems (IFS) is an approach to healing that identifies the wounded parts of you, as well as the whole, not wounded parts of you. And it helps you to build a relationship between your core Self and those wounded parts so that they can heal, have a sense of wholeness and become what we call “unburdened”.Imagine your internal family as your core Self, plus the other parts of you that are related to your Self and your pain (aka burden). There are...

What if the key to healing is understanding the different parts of yourself? Sabrina Zohar is joined by Dr. Richard Schwartz, the creator of Internal Family Systems (IFS), to explore how IFS therapy can lead to profound emotional healing. In this video, Sabrina shares her own healing journey, confronting her inner critic, navigating trauma, and embracing personal growth. Together, they reveal how understanding and healing your inner parts can help you find true inner peace and self-compassion. Get Introduction to Internal Family Systems by Dr. Richard Schwartz Stuck After the Podcast? Master Implementation in 8 Weeks with Sabrina's Foundation Course HERE! If you've ever felt like you're too much, not enough, or always chasing validation in dating or relationships, the Self Love Course gives you the tools to rebuild your worth from the inside out HERE! Do you feel like your emotions run the show and react in ways you can't control? Join the Nervous System 101: Navigating the Unknowns In Early Dating from Sabrina and Masha Kay HERE! Struggling with a breakup? Join the Make It Make Sense: Getting Through a Breakup course from Sabrina and Britt Frank HERE! Get Ad free HERE! Want to work with Sabrina? HERE! Get merch for The Sabrina Zohar Show HERE! Don't forget to follow Sabrina and The Sabrina Zohar Show on Instagram and Sabrina on TikTok! Video now available on YOUTUBE! Please support our sponsors! Go to Leesa.com for their July 4th Extended Sale PLUS get an extra $50 off with promo code SABRINA, exclusive for my listeners. Disclaimer: The Sabrina Zohar Show, formerly known as Do The Work, is not affiliated with A.Z & associates LLC in any capacity.

Today we open a field of inquiry and healing around women's mental health, reclaiming wholeness, and reshaping the way we understand treatment, addiction, and embodiment.Our guest is Dr. Stacy Cohen, a double board-certified psychiatrist, addiction specialist, and founder of The Moment Health, a revolutionary holistic health and wellness clinic that integrates science, soul, and social impact.What drew me to Dr. Cohen's work is not only her clinical depth, but her fiercely compassionate, woman-centered lens, a lens that acknowledges that mental health and also addiction looks different in women, that healing must honor biology and story, and that reclaiming joy, clarity, and inner coherence is a personal, political, and spiritual act.As someone who has walked this path of healing myself, I know the power of what happens when we shift from symptom management to soul-based medicine.This conversation is not merely about treatment, it is about remembering what wholeness feels like, and choosing it again.Episode highlights:[02:00] What “fragmentation” looks like in traditional psychiatry[04:00] How The Moment Health was born[05:45] Building a collaborative care team rooted in interdependence[08:00] Why addiction and mental health look different in women[10:00] The clinical blind spot around hormones, perimenopause, and gynecological factors[13:30] Cultural differences in how menopause is experienced[16:00] Psychedelics and the danger of one-size-fits-all thinking[20:00] Embracing the middle passage: Stillness as power[23:00] The importance of interconnection between women and men[26:30] Why Dr. Cohen brought ketamine therapy into her practice[29:30] Addiction psychiatry, recovery culture, and psychedelics[33:30] Healing trauma and reinterpreting AA for female empowerment[36:00] Embracing the lioness: Anger, motherhood, and power[38:00] Returning to ancestral ways of raising children[41:00] The power of play, embodiment, and creative self-expression[43:30] Embracing duality: Complexity and simplicity in healing[44:00] Repainting the system: A new vision for women's mental health[48:00] Practical first steps for reclaiming your mental health[49:30] Honoring postmenopausal women and the second springResources mentioned:Dr Stacy Cohenhttps://www.stacycohenmd.com/The Moment Healthhttps://www.themomenthealth.com/who-we-areThe Middle Passage by James HollisAmazon: https://www.amazon.com/Middle-Passage-From-Misery-Meaning/dp/0919123600Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/66679.The_Middle_PassageInternal Family Systems (IFS) – Richard SchwartzIFS Institute official site: https://ifs-institute.comIntro video on YouTube by Richard Schwartz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99NF6K8vN00Gateway Sciences / Gateway ClinicGateway Sciences: https://gatewaysciences.comGateway Clinic page: https://gatewaysciences.com/clinicSOCIAL MEDIALinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/the-moment-by-dr-stacy-cohenInstagram https://www.instagram.com/themomenthealth/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/themomenthealth/

Internal Family Systems, for which Dr. Dick Schwartz is the legendary founder, is undoubtedly the most powerful form of therapy I have ever encountered. Instead of just talking about this type of therapy, you'll get to witness it in action: demonstrating the efficacy and intricacy of the process in real time. Coming on the heels of the hardest month of my life, this session was nothing short of life changing. We also got to discuss a recent evolution of his model which now includes the recognition of the presence of dark entities, what Schwartz calls “unattached burdens” which are not “parts” of the self, but something quite other entirely.  For anyone who is interested in therapy, to heal past wounds, or simply to access your fullest potential of SELF, this is an extremely important podcast. | Dr. Richard Schwartz |Website: https://ifs-institute.com/Instagram @internalfamilysystems/  YouTube @InternalFamilySystems  X @IFS_Model  Facebook @InternalFamilySystemsThis episode is sponsored by►Metal Mark Golden Collectable Art |  https://mtlmrk.com/►Hone Health | https://shorturl.at/JvhAJ►Korrect Fuel | ⁠https://korrectlife.com/⁠| Aubrey Marcus |Website | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/2GesYqi ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/2BlfCEO ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/2F4nBZk ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X |  ⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/2BlGBAdAd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe to the Aubrey Marcus newsletter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.aubreymarcus.com/pages/email⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠To partner with the Aubrey Marcus Podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe to the Aubrey Marcus podcast:iTunes | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://apple.co/2lMZRCn ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://spoti.fi/2EaELZO ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Stitcher | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/2G8ccJt ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠IHeartRadio | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ihr.fm/3CiV4x3 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Is there just one “you”? This evocative question lies at at the heart of Dr. Richard Schwartz's groundbreaking work as both a therapist, and a researcher.Over 40 years he's pushed back against conventionChallenging what so many of us have been taught to believe - That we have a single identity.And to feel fear or shame when we can't control the inner voices that don't match the ideal of who we think we should be. Rather than accept this well adopted theory of the “mono-mind.”Dr. Schwartz developed the Internal Family Systems model (IFS) in response to clients' descriptions of various parts within themselves, which has been transforming psychology for decades and is outlined in his profound bestselling book, No Bad PartsHe says:“All of us are born with many sub-minds - or parts,” “These parts are not imaginary or symbolic. They are individuals who exist as an internal family within us - and the key to health and happiness is to honor, understand, and love every part.”Today, we will take an experiential dive into IFS - As Dick shares more of his story, how he came to this approach, the role of curiosity and love in healing,and ultimately will offer a glimpse of what's possible when we engage in parts work as he generously agreed to conduct an IFS therapy session with me in real time. What unfolded turned out to be extraordinary experience. One that left me changed.The session itself increased my belief in Dick's hopeful and inspiring sentiment:“When we learn to love all our parts, we can learn to love all people - and that will contribute to healing the world.”For more on Dick Schwartz, his books, IFS, and a directory of IFS trained therapists please visit ifs-institute.comEnjoying the show? Please rate it wherever you listen to your podcasts!Did you find this conversation inspiring? Here are other conversations we think you'll love:On Honoring the Soul (pt. 1) | Parker J. PalmerOn Heartbreak, Healing, and Transformation | Sara Avant StoverThanks for listening!Support the show

Honoring the life of a longtime friend of the Be Here Network, Ralph De La Rosa, this special episode explores Ralph's wisdom on moving through trauma via the heart of compassion. If you'd like to honor Ralph De La Rosa's legacy by supporting his family, a GoFundMe has been created to help with the significant and unexpected expenses following his passing - Honoring Ralph's Life: Support their familyIn this conversation with Jackie Dobrinska from June 2024, Ralph shares his wisdom on the topics of:The nourishment that daily spiritual practice brought to Ralph's healing journeyRalph's difficulties with mental health, bullying, neurodivergence, and gender non-conformityHow spiritual bypassing can distract from real healing and disconnect us from realityThe myth of constant happiness and why true bliss involves emotional depthCultivating self-compassion to transform trauma, fear, and emotional heartbreakHealing from the inside out by embracing pain as a teacher and guideA 20-minute guided meditation/compassion practice led by RalphRalph's transformative rehab experience and introduction to Buddhist teachingsDeveloping an embodied sense of self-love, safety, and inner affectionExploring subjective perception and rewriting our personal and collective narrativesUsing curiosity as a stepping stone when we are struggling to get to compassionHealing trauma by reconnecting with the inner child (with therapeutic support)Acknowledging our defense mechanisms and communicating with the parts of ourselves that are stuck in survival modeLetting go of past emotional residue and rebuilding trust in the heart's wisdomUnderstanding the difference between real love/compassion and codependent patterns/poor boundariesToday's episode is sponsored by Reunion & Dharma Seed:Mindrolling is brought to you by Reunion. Reunion is offering $250 off any stay to the Love, Serve, Remember community. Simply use the code “BeHere250” when booking. Disconnect from the world so you can reconnect with yourself at Reunion. Hotel | www.reunionhotelandwellness.com Retreats | www.reunionexperience.orgJoin Krishna Das, the most well-known voice of Bhakti chanting (Kirtan) in the West, and David Nichtern - a senior Buddhist teacher, founder of Dharma Moon, guitarist in Krishna Das' band, and producer of several of his albums - for a warm and engaging conversation about these two paths, their shared roots, and how they intersect in contemporary spiritual practice. Learn more about this FREE online gathering - THE HEART & MIND OF PRACTICE: BUDDHISM & BHAKTIAbout Ralph De La Rosa:Ralph De La Rosa (he/they) was a teacher of human spirituality, an internationally published author and a trauma-focused psychotherapist. Ralph worked in private practice and was a seasoned meditation teacher known for his radically open and humorous teaching style. He was personally mentored by Richard Schwartz, founder and developer of Internal Family Systems. Check out Ralph's book, Outshining Trauma, which focuses on trauma and radical self-compassion. Learn more about Ralph on his website.“We're all holding traumas. We've all been bruised by life in large or small ways. What that is, is an invitation to find and open the heart of compassion, the heart of loving kindness that already exists within you. It's right there.” – Ralph De La RosaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Have you ever found yourself asking, “Why do I keep doing this?” If so, this episode is for you. Gabby is joined by three powerful voices in trauma healing and personal growth: Dr. Gabor Maté, Dr. Nicole LePera, and Dr. Richard Schwartz. They offer profound insights into the deeper reasons behind our struggles—and how to heal.Show notes:Order my new book, Self Help: This Is Your Chance to Change Your Life and get 3 free audio practices. Order Self Help.Recommended gabby coaching practice for this episode: ‘Self Help Anxious Parts Check-in' in the Self Help section. Not a member? Try it out for free here.If you feel you need additional support, please consult this list of safety, recovery and mental health resources. Disclaimer: This podcast is intended to educate, inspire, and support you on your personal journey towards inner peace. I am not a psychologist or a medical doctor and do not offer any professional health or medical advice. If you are suffering from any psychological or medical conditions, please seek help from a qualified health professional.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Make peace with the difficult parts of your personality.   Dr. Richard Schwartz is a contemporary psychotherapist, PhD in marriage and family therapy. He founded the Internal Family Systems Model (IFS) therapy system and has authored many books, most recently: The Internal Family Systems Workbook.    In this episode we talk about: What Internal Family Systems (IFS) is The relationship between buddhism and IFS How to make peace with our parts without a therapist in the room  Dan volunteers as a guinea pig to show what it's like to work with your parts The definition of love The link between IFS and psychedelics   Related Episodes: How (and Why) to Hug Your Inner Dragons | Richard Schwartz How to Get Out of Your Head | Willa Blythe Baker Kryptonite for the Inner Critic | Kristin Neff Self-Compassion Ain't Always Soft | Kristin Neff The Voice in Your Head | Ethan Kross The Science Of Burnout — And How To Recharge From Stress | Kristin Neff and Christopher Germer The Science of Emotion Regulation: How It Impacts Health, Performance, and Relationships. | Ethan Kross Lessons From the World's Longest Scientific Study of Happiness | Dr. Robert Waldinger The Art of Growing Up, Jerry Colonna The Art and Science of the World's Gooiest Cliche | Barbara Fredrickson   Sign up for Dan's newsletter here Follow Dan on social: Instagram, TikTok Ten Percent Happier online bookstore Subscribe to our YouTube Channel Our favorite playlists on: Anxiety, Sleep, Relationships, Most Popular Episodes   Additional Resources:  The Internal Family Systems Workbook is part of the new Sounds True Inner Workbooks series, which currently includes The Nervous System Workbook by Deb Dana and The Healing Anxiety Workbook by Sheryl Lisa Finn, with more titles planned.

My guest is Dr. Richard Schwartz, Ph.D., therapist, author, and founder of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy. We discuss how IFS views the mind as a collection of parts, each shaped by different life experiences—both good and bad, including trauma. To demonstrate how IFS works, Dr. Schwartz guides Dr. Huberman and you, the listener, through an example IFS session. We also explore how IFS and body awareness can help break harmful thought and behavior patterns, promote emotional healing, and build healthier relationships. Read the full episode show notes at hubermanlab.com. Thank you to our sponsors AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/huberman David Protein: https://davidprotein.com/huberman Wealthfront**: https://wealthfront.com/huberman Function: https://functionhealth.com/huberman This experience may not be representative of the experience of other clients of Wealthfront, and there is no guarantee that all clients will have similar experiences. Cash Account is offered by Wealthfront Brokerage LLC, Member FINRA/SIPC. The Annual Percentage Yield (“APY”) on cash deposits as of December 27,‬ 2024, is representative, subject to change, and requires no minimum. Funds in the Cash Account are swept to partner banks where they earn the variable‭ APY. Promo terms and FDIC coverage conditions apply. Same-day withdrawal or instant payment transfers may be limited by destination institutions, daily transaction caps, and by participating entities such as Wells Fargo, the RTP® Network, and FedNow® Service. New Cash Account deposits are subject to a 2-4 day holding period before becoming available for transfer. Timestamps 00:00:00 Dr. Richard Schwartz 00:02:11 Internal Family Systems (IFS), Self & Parts 00:07:23 Sponsors: BetterHelp & David Protein 00:09:44 Trauma & Parts: Exiles, Roles, Critic, Managers, Firefighters 00:15:32 Frustration & Anger, Surrender & Perspective 00:19:35 Feelings, Curiosity & Self-Exploration, Protecting Other Parts 00:29:35 Exploration of Inner Frustration, Judgement, Firefighters, Protectors 00:40:04 Titanium Teddy Bear, The Self & Curiosity, Tool: The 8 C's & Self 00:46:41 Sponsors: AG1 & Wealthfront 00:49:24 IFS Therapy, Self-Exploration 00:53:47 Role Confusion, Conflict, Self & Clarity; Legacy Burdens 01:00:26 Cognitive vs Somatic Feelings; Tools: Localize Body Feeling, Curiosity 01:04:11 IFS & Psychedelics, Ketamine, Big Self, Journal Retractions 01:11:18 Early Morning, Breathwork, Exiles & Healing 01:13:53 Sponsor: Function 01:15:41 Shame, Racism, Protectors & Carrying Burden, Compassion 01:21:29 Unhealthy Romantic Relationships, Child-Parent Relationship 01:27:06 Therapist, Self-Exploration, Protectors & Introduction to Self 01:31:08 Tool: Questions for a Self-Exploration of Internal Protectors 01:39:30 Writing, Forming New Relationships with Parts, Leading with Self 01:42:51 Protectors, Managers, Firefighters, Suicidal & Addiction Behaviors 01:48:37 Overworking, Fear, Mortality 01:54:35 Technology & Distraction, Exiles, Worthlessness 01:58:58 Psychiatry, Medicine, New Ideas 02:02:58 Culture & Expanding Problems, Activism & Self 02:10:39 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow & Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Protocols Book, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter Disclaimer & Disclosures