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This week we're excited to have Ben Virgo, founder of Christian Heritage London join Jesse and Izzy in the studio! Ben has incredible passion and knowledge for how Christianity has played it's part in the UK's (and particularly London's) history. He also know more about slang than you do. Connect with Ben on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/christianheritagelondonFOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM: www.instagram.com/thewayukFOLLOW US ON TIK TOK: www.tiktok.com/@thewayukWant to know more? Find a church that has things happening for young people. Visit https://achurchnearyou.com/youth[In partnership with CofE Digital Projects]╔═╦╗╔╦╗╔═╦═╦╦╦╦╗╔═╗║╚╣║║║╚╣╚╣╔╣╔╣║╚╣═╣╠╗║╚╝║║╠╗║╚╣║║║║║═╣╚═╩══╩═╩═╩═╩╝╚╩═╩═╝
Episode Notes Story about John Newton, author of the Hymn, Amazing Grace. Newton's adopted niece, Elizabeth, known as Betsy, was committed to the notorious Royal Bethlem Hospital in London, also known as 'bedlam'. Ian Ashby tells the story of what happened. This story is one of many you will hear on the Christian Heritage Tours run by Ben Virgo in London.
God has done so many wonderful things through is people over the centuries. There are powerful lessons to learn. Ben Virgo leads tours through London that highlight the great works of people God has used. He’s a fountain of joyous stories and important insights. Recommended Resources: Ben's Ministry William Wilberforce: His Unpublished Spiritual Journals by Michael McMullen (2021) The Air We Breathe: How We All Came to Believe in Freedom, Kindness, Progress, and Equality by Glen Scrivener (2022)
You're gonna love this full episode with Ben Virgo of Christian Heritage London as he shares stories of a few of the great heroes of the faith such as John Wesley and William Wilberforce. Ben emphasizes how many of these men were ordinary folks with ordinary struggles just like you and I, yet they changed the world! The faith of these heroes hinged on Christ and the resounding announcement of the Gospel that it is Christ who finished the work through His resurrection. It is that victorious and eternal life that we are promised, our own grit and grind notwithstanding. If you've ever had THOUGHTS such as: I must try harder! I'm not enough. I don't measure up to the next guy. I don't have what it takes. I must persist! It's all about my technique. I must strengthen my resolve. then you might ask God to reveal to your spirit and penetrate your heart with the knowledge and understanding that He has done the work and you can rest in Him and Him alone. Ben is the Director of Christian Heritage London-an organization devoted to telling the stories of how the gospel has changed the world in London, how it continues to change the world in London, that it might change the world again! He gives tours through London and the British Museum, hosts the Christian Heritage London podcast, runs the George Whitefield, Jonathan Edwards, and William Wilberforce Twitter pages and is a dynamic speaker. He lives in the Projects in East London where he and his family have planted a church among Bangladeshi Muslims. Connect With Ben Website: www.christianheritagelondon.org Twitter: www.twitter.com/rememberLondon Facebook: www.facebook.com/christianheritagelondon Email: ben@christianheritagelondon.org Podcast: Christian Heritage London *CHOOSE 2 THINK: Find Peace, Joy, Hope, Health & Freedom Every Day! Your 365-day DEVOTIONAL. Peek Inside Here. https://amzn.to/3rG35tI CONNECT WITH VICTORIA: *CHOOSE 2 THINK DEVOTIONAL: https://amzn.to/3rG35tI WEBSITE: https://www.choose2think.co (yep, that's .co!) EMAIL: choose2think@gmail.com CHOOSE 2 THINK COACHING: https://www.victoriadwalker.com/coaching.html CHOOSE 2 THINK ACADEMY ONLINE COURSES: https://www.victoriadwalker.com/online-courses.html CHOOSE 2 THINK CHANNEL ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz8Z2B9TtXvWn0RKelVY5DQ?sub_confirmation=1 CHOOSE 2 THINK INSPIRATIONAL PODCAST FACEBOOK COMMUNITY: https://www.facebook.com/groups/choose2think PINTEREST: https://www.pinterest.com/Choose2Think/_created/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/victoriadwalker/ *As an Amazon Associate, I receive small commissions from your purchase PLEASE CONSIDER A SMALL MONTHLY DONATION OF $0.99 TO SPONSOR THIS SHOW! WE WILL LOVE YOU FOR IT! :) Simply click LISTENER'S SUPPORT TAB ON ANCHOR --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/victoria-walker/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/victoria-walker/support
The city of London has been incredibly influential in the shaping of the world. Our friend Ben Virgo lives in and loves the city of London where he runs a ministry called Christian Heritage London . Through their work they highlight the influential Christian leaders that God has used through the ages both in and through the city of London. One of the ways Ben brings people into contact with great figures of the past is by taking guests on walks through the city, highlighting the locations of their lives and ministries. It was on one of these walks where Nathan met Ben.In this episode, Ben challenges us to consider those that have gone before us, to glean from their example, and consider how we can invite Jesus into our own circumstances and cities that we might see transformation take place.You can connect with Ben on FaceBook, Twitter and Instagram through his ministry and on their website at Christian Heritage London. Additionally, Ben hosts a podcast you can find by following this link. As always you can find us at TheBestViewInTown.com or send us an email by clicking the link here.With this episode focusing on reaching back to our history to help us move forward, here are a few articles from Nathan's blog #TheBestViewInTown that may be of interest to you.1. To Remember is to Reconnect2. He's On Every Page Of Your Story3. Those Who Dug The WellOn this Episode:Guest: Ben VirgoHost: Producer: Nathan Wesley SmithCohost: Justin Porter
Sinful Saints Revealed. How is that for the title of our show today? It sounds like a bad headline from a trashy newspaper found in the check out line in a second rate grocery store. Sinful Saints Revealed. Really?Did you know that the word “saint” means many different things depending on who you are talking to? Roman Catholic and Orthodox traditions have a formal understanding of saints, including canonization established first in the 10th Century. It may surprise many that sinlessness is not a requirement for sainthood in any tradition. With the advent of the Protestant Reformation in the 16th Century, the whole notion of Saints was turned on its head. Anyone who is truly a Christian is considered a saint. If this sounds confusing, it really doesn’t have to be. In his first letter, the Apostle Peter tells us, “You yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood” (1 Peter 2:5). Sing praises to the Lord, O you his saints, and give thanks to his holy name. (Psalm 30:4)To avoid digressing down this ages-old theological side road, we can all admit that no matter what words are used to describe Christians: Christian Leaders, Clergy, and or other public figures in Christendom, we can have a tendency to fall into hero-worship or to villainize them. Both lack the honesty characterized in Biblical Revelation, where Saints are sinners, and both sides are glaringly revealed.Today we will look at a couple of people who might be considered in the informal subjective lineup of Protestant Fathers. It is easy to make them bigger than life, forget their frailties, and feel insignificant by comparison. But their stories are excellent and worthy of knowing to motivate us to be encouraged by the saints and reminded why they needed a Savior too.Our storyteller today is one of my favorites from the other side of the pond.Welcome back to Church Hurts And, Englishman, Londoner, Pastor, Scholar, and Tour Guide from heaven, Ben Virgo.ChurchHurtsAnd.org
Sinful Saints Revealed. How is that for the title of our show today? It sounds like a bad headline from a trashy newspaper found in the check out line in a second rate grocery store. Sinful Saints Revealed. Really?Did you know that the word “saint” means many different things depending on who you are talking to? Roman Catholic and Orthodox traditions have a formal understanding of saints, including canonization established first in the 10th Century. It may surprise many that sinlessness is not a requirement for sainthood in any tradition. With the advent of the Protestant Reformation in the 16th Century, the whole notion of Saints was turned on its head. Anyone who is truly a Christian is considered a saint. If this sounds confusing, it really doesn’t have to be. In his first letter, the Apostle Peter tells us, “You yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood” (1 Peter 2:5). Sing praises to the Lord, O you his saints, and give thanks to his holy name. (Psalm 30:4)To avoid digressing down this ages-old theological side road, we can all admit that no matter what words are used to describe Christians: Christian Leaders, Clergy, and or other public figures in Christendom, we can have a tendency to fall into hero-worship or to villainize them. Both lack the honesty characterized in Biblical Revelation, where Saints are sinners, and both sides are glaringly revealed.Today we will look at a couple of people who might be considered in the informal subjective lineup of Protestant Fathers. It is easy to make them bigger than life, forget their frailties, and feel insignificant by comparison. But their stories are excellent and worthy of knowing to motivate us to be encouraged by the saints and reminded why they needed a Savior too.Our storyteller today is one of my favorites from the other side of the pond.Welcome back to Church Hurts And, Englishman, Londoner, Pastor, Scholar, and Tour Guide from heaven, Ben Virgo.ChurchHurtsAnd.org
When the virus called Corona hit Southern California’s shores, I was determined to practice the spiritual principles I have learned in recent years. Believing that God is in charge of every molecule under heaven, I had good reason not to get all stressed out. The equation added civil unrest and political monologues, destroying joy and fellowship on Facebook and social media. I consciously tried not to get caught up in what seemed like so much folly in the dialogue.Disengaging is simply not in my DNA, so I focussed my attention on learning more about the history and background to provide meaningful context to the authentic human history we are living. My mental meanderings ended up taking me to a place I wasn’t expecting, and a time I wasn’t expecting, and through a location, I prefer to avoid, Washington, D.C.Follow my thinking here. We are a nation founded mostly by English malcontents or Christian refugees or adventurous, restless pioneers, depending on what version of the story you want to tell. Yet when my overly visual mind travels to Washington, D.C., my senses are assaulted not by Christian symbols or architecture at all. In fact, there is nothing uniquely British about the city either. Then I remembered this signature American city was designed by a Frenchman, Pierre Charles L’Enfant, who preferred to be called Peter. Now don’t get me wrong, just because he has a fancy French name doesn’t mean he wasn’t a patriot. He was with General Washington at Valley Forge as part of the Continental Army. No other credentials are needed. Few dispute his dominant influence on the design of our capital city. He also was commissioned by General Lafayette to do a portrait of George Washington and became good friends with Alexander Hamilton.What visual images are coming to your mind as I bring up Washington, D.C.? Certain buildings? You know architectural design 101 you were taught in 7th grade. Come on. Doric, Ionic, and Corinthian. Ringing a bell.To see if this mental meandering can take us anywhere, I’ve invited back to Church Hurts And a London Tour guide. I know it sounds weird, but his specialty is the classics, so welcome back to Church Hurts And Englishman Ben Virgo.
When the virus called Corona hit Southern California’s shores, I was determined to practice the spiritual principles I have learned in recent years. Believing that God is in charge of every molecule under heaven, I had good reason not to get all stressed out. The equation added civil unrest and political monologues, destroying joy and fellowship on Facebook and social media. I consciously tried not to get caught up in what seemed like so much folly in the dialogue.Disengaging is simply not in my DNA, so I focussed my attention on learning more about the history and background to provide meaningful context to the authentic human history we are living. My mental meanderings ended up taking me to a place I wasn’t expecting, and a time I wasn’t expecting, and through a location, I prefer to avoid, Washington, D.C.Follow my thinking here. We are a nation founded mostly by English malcontents or Christian refugees or adventurous, restless pioneers, depending on what version of the story you want to tell. Yet when my overly visual mind travels to Washington, D.C., my senses are assaulted not by Christian symbols or architecture at all. In fact, there is nothing uniquely British about the city either. Then I remembered this signature American city was designed by a Frenchman, Pierre Charles L’Enfant, who preferred to be called Peter. Now don’t get me wrong, just because he has a fancy French name doesn’t mean he wasn’t a patriot. He was with General Washington at Valley Forge as part of the Continental Army. No other credentials are needed. Few dispute his dominant influence on the design of our capital city. He also was commissioned by General Lafayette to do a portrait of George Washington and became good friends with Alexander Hamilton.What visual images are coming to your mind as I bring up Washington, D.C.? Certain buildings? You know architectural design 101 you were taught in 7th grade. Come on. Doric, Ionic, and Corinthian. Ringing a bell.To see if this mental meandering can take us anywhere, I’ve invited back to Church Hurts And a London Tour guide. I know it sounds weird, but his specialty is the classics, so welcome back to Church Hurts And Englishman Ben Virgo.
Before we go, I’d just like to take a moment to say a word about perspective. Ben Virgo on the Christian Heritage Tour gave me a perspective of London I simply never would have had if I hadn’t gone on that tour. It wasn’t all new information to me, I knew some of it, but it sure was different seeing it, matching places to events and people. I hope you’ve gotten a bit of that tour in the past few minutes and maybe had your perspective adjusted a bit too.Many years ago I had a similar perspective-changing Tour given by Ray Bakke in Chicago. I was living in the city at the time, but just a few hours with Ray changed what I saw every day. Really? The street means that much and that happened there? Wow.When you get next to experts your perspective is likely to get threatened. If they really know their stuff, like Ben knows his stuff, you will see things differently, maybe hear things differently, and perhaps even feel things differently. When the plaque on the old building you walk by says, “Within a few feet of this place John Rogers, John Bradford, John Philpot and other servants of God suffered death by fire for the faith of Christ 1555, 1556, 1557” it gives one reason to pause. “Just tell me you don’t believe something and I won’t burn you to death.” What do you believe in strongly enough not to give in to that?Yet almost invariably with perspective growth, comes nuance. Nuance is very underrated. Life is so much easier with black and white perspectives. Good-Bad. Righteous. Sinner.Surely I may be wrong, but I suspect some of our propensity to wanting things that way is because it is easier. This king is good. That queen was bad. Royalty is all bad. Presbyterians are good. Catholics are bad. Churches are filled with hypocrites. You get the point. Or do you? Life, people, and churches aren’t easy to put in a box with “All” connected very successfully. It’s a mixed bag. We are a mixed bag. Churches are a mixed bag. Add time to the equation and it gets even messier. Someone who was really bad can end up being really good and someone really good can end up being a scoundrel.You know how I can prove that. Look in the mirror. See that person. All good? Nope. All bad? Nope. We need a lot more nuance.I came not to call the righteous, but sinners. Nuance. You bet. And that’s what we mean by AND. Leonard Ravenhill from Leeds in Yorkshire England once said:"Jesus did not come into the world to make bad men good. He came into the world to make dead men live!” Now that’s nuance and that is Worth a Thought.churchhurtsand.org
Before we go, I’d just like to take a moment to say a word about perspective. Ben Virgo on the Christian Heritage Tour gave me a perspective of London I simply never would have had if I hadn’t gone on that tour. It wasn’t all new information to me, I knew some of it, but it sure was different seeing it, matching places to events and people. I hope you’ve gotten a bit of that tour in the past few minutes and maybe had your perspective adjusted a bit too.Many years ago I had a similar perspective-changing Tour given by Ray Bakke in Chicago. I was living in the city at the time, but just a few hours with Ray changed what I saw every day. Really? The street means that much and that happened there? Wow.When you get next to experts your perspective is likely to get threatened. If they really know their stuff, like Ben knows his stuff, you will see things differently, maybe hear things differently, and perhaps even feel things differently. When the plaque on the old building you walk by says, “Within a few feet of this place John Rogers, John Bradford, John Philpot and other servants of God suffered death by fire for the faith of Christ 1555, 1556, 1557” it gives one reason to pause. “Just tell me you don’t believe something and I won’t burn you to death.” What do you believe in strongly enough not to give in to that?Yet almost invariably with perspective growth, comes nuance. Nuance is very underrated. Life is so much easier with black and white perspectives. Good-Bad. Righteous. Sinner.Surely I may be wrong, but I suspect some of our propensity to wanting things that way is because it is easier. This king is good. That queen was bad. Royalty is all bad. Presbyterians are good. Catholics are bad. Churches are filled with hypocrites. You get the point. Or do you? Life, people, and churches aren’t easy to put in a box with “All” connected very successfully. It’s a mixed bag. We are a mixed bag. Churches are a mixed bag. Add time to the equation and it gets even messier. Someone who was really bad can end up being really good and someone really good can end up being a scoundrel.You know how I can prove that. Look in the mirror. See that person. All good? Nope. All bad? Nope. We need a lot more nuance.I came not to call the righteous, but sinners. Nuance. You bet. And that’s what we mean by AND. Leonard Ravenhill from Leeds in Yorkshire England once said:"Jesus did not come into the world to make bad men good. He came into the world to make dead men live!” Now that’s nuance and that is Worth a Thought.churchhurtsand.org
PART 1. I was disappointed when my hostess in London informed me she had set up a tour for us to go on. I’m not a tour-going kind of tourist and I was sure no tour was going to show me to the kind of places I’d want to see. “But it is the Christian Heritage Tour” she explained, a bit hurt by my obvious lack of enthusiasm. I bit my lip, not wanting to appear any more unappreciative than I already had. So now I’m going to get some sappy tour of Church architecture by a typical Anglican who will explain away the empty churches with some cultural psycho babble. Surely the guide won’t know much about the truly great preachers of London I would want to know about. As I sat on the steps of St. Paul’s Cathedral, best know to this American mind for the wedding of Charles and Diana in 1981, little was I prepared for the bouncing smiling tour guide to be another act of God’s humor upon me. Ben Virgo was his name. Surprisingly he was not a stayed traditional Anglican at all and proceeded to take us on a walking tour of London which turned the day into one of the most meaningful and memorable days of my life.I’d like to keep telling you about it, but let me cut to the chase. In a way I had never understood, Ben helped me see how much of key moments in history can be tied back to London and even to specific places in London. So in the midst of all the questions and unrest lately here in the US, I figured I’d test out Ben’s theory. What can we learn about racial issues from London? What about disease and pandemics? What about God and Church and Hurts?So with no further adieu, Ben Virgo, Welcome to Church Hurts And from the other side of the pond.churchhurtsand.org
PART 1. I was disappointed when my hostess in London informed me she had set up a tour for us to go on. I’m not a tour-going kind of tourist and I was sure no tour was going to show me to the kind of places I’d want to see. “But it is the Christian Heritage Tour” she explained, a bit hurt by my obvious lack of enthusiasm. I bit my lip, not wanting to appear any more unappreciative than I already had. So now I’m going to get some sappy tour of Church architecture by a typical Anglican who will explain away the empty churches with some cultural psycho babble. Surely the guide won’t know much about the truly great preachers of London I would want to know about. As I sat on the steps of St. Paul’s Cathedral, best know to this American mind for the wedding of Charles and Diana in 1981, little was I prepared for the bouncing smiling tour guide to be another act of God’s humor upon me. Ben Virgo was his name. Surprisingly he was not a stayed traditional Anglican at all and proceeded to take us on a walking tour of London which turned the day into one of the most meaningful and memorable days of my life.I’d like to keep telling you about it, but let me cut to the chase. In a way I had never understood, Ben helped me see how much of key moments in history can be tied back to London and even to specific places in London. So in the midst of all the questions and unrest lately here in the US, I figured I’d test out Ben’s theory. What can we learn about racial issues from London? What about disease and pandemics? What about God and Church and Hurts?So with no further adieu, Ben Virgo, Welcome to Church Hurts And from the other side of the pond.churchhurtsand.org
We return to you with yet another brilliant guest on Ordinary this week. We’re talking to Ben Virgo, director of Christian Heritage London. If you want to find out more about what they do, you can search their website christianheritagelondon.org. Ben is engaged in Christian history, particularly in the great characters and events that took […]
Ben Virgo unpacks the history of London through eyes of the Church and many famous missionaries.
1) Ukraine - https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/03/in-ukraines-presidential-elections-life-is-imitating-netflix/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47763176 2) Theybies and Childism - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AlKRfy66Tw&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR0OhtIVtv0Uauwllz-ZeW375DJZGcfA1DQtNeRQkOSkdjLYkk9a3wFQ72s:25 https://www.spectator.com.au/2019/03/mother-sister-brother-produce-a-baby/?fbclid=IwAR1oPIHKsLlFxyZOlnURC_7qq6elrFUYIkCWwSrq-YfdSbFegDQUK2EMsl8 https://www.christianpost.com/news/crucifix-removed-from-montreal-city-council-to-reaffirm-secular-character.html https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/court-orders-christian-to-pay-55000-to-trans-politician-for-calling-him-biological-male 3) Moral Maze – Puritanism –- https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0003jj5 https://www.thenational.scot/news/17538407.bbc-question-time-defends-lgbt-morality-debate/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0003mp9/question-time-2019-28032019 Coeercice and Controlling behaviour - https://twitter.com/scotgov/status/1112655845525995520?s=12 5) New Zealand - https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/03/is-new-zealand-really-such-a-tolerant-country/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_content=The%20best%20of%20Coffee%20House%3A%2030%20March&utm_campaign=Best_of_Coffee_House 6) Unplanned - https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/watch-trailer-released-for-unplanned-movie-about-abby-johnsons-pro-life-con?utm_content=buffer3397e&utm_medium=WCDM%2BBuffer&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=WCDM&fbclid=IwAR1kc2QVFi3vINN5x-XGJoQ7ZgkWjBDvdzgK0BTjQLTz3fTcpyslOAAqHxc 7) Restriction on science – - https://quillette.com/2019/04/01/activists-must-stop-harassing-scientists/ Pseudo Science - https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/03/lying-with-science-a-guide-to-myth-debunking/ 8) Melvin Bragg – Unbelievable – https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable/Episodes/Unbelievable-Why-William-Tyndale-s-Bible-changed-the-world-Melvyn-Bragg-and-Ben-Virgo?fbclid=IwAR1gG6Qfm2TMYv5kcR2IEIwV3nsY396Ettlqtur1P6O41RhIfVW9x4CeW7o 9) Difference between Americans and British – the Cure - https://twitter.com/stormhuntley/status/1112344763049615361?s=12 “Road unsafe when this sign is under water” (US sign). Robin Aitken – The Noble Liar – “ our ruling elite in Britain– the politicians, lawyers, academics and media people – view the current state of affairs as a positive thing;”we have banished superstition”, they say, rejoicing at the thought; but there remains a sceptical minority who look at the society brought into being by this type of thinking and see little to admire. The liberal hegemony has created an unhappy society which doesn’t really know what it believes in. And whether you are a supporter of the current orthodoxy or not, here is one thing you can rely on: it is not permanent. The qualities that make Christianity a force to be reckoned with– the truth that wins human hearts and compels belief – will not change, and will go on winning converts to its banner. In the coming years, who is to say whether the old beliefs will not triumph again over the arid fictions of our current noble lie?”
Renowned British broadcaster Melvyn Bragg joins Justin to talk about why, as a non-believer, he holds the Bible in such high regard. His recent book 'William Tyndale: A Very Brief History’ traces the life and legacy of the reformer William Tyndale whose English translation of the Bible laid the foundation for the King James Version. Ben Virgo of Christian Heritage London joins the conversation to explore the ways in which Tyndale’s work changed the English language, challenged the church and renewed the gospel in England. At the end of the show Sarah Yardley and Andy Bannister give a preview of the apologetics track at CreationFest in August 2019. For Alister McGrath & Bret Weinstein Live in London https://shop.premier.org.uk/collections/events/products/religion-useful-fiction-or-ultimate-truth-live-debate For Unbelievable? The Conference 2019 http://www.premierchristianradio.com/unbelievableconference For William Tyndale: A Very Brief History: https://www.amazon.co.uk/William-Tyndale-Brief-History-Histories/dp/0281077134 For Christian Heritage London: https://www.christianheritagelondon.org Get signed copies of Unbelievable? the book and audiobook: www.unbelievablebook.co.uk For more faith debates visit http://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable Join the conversation: Facebook and Twitter Get the MP3 Podcast of Unbelievable? Via RSS or Via Itunes
Sometimes we have the great privilege of having conversations with leaders on the other side of the world. This week we do. Director of Christian Heritage London, Ben Virgo, joins us this week as we chat about the Reformation and the impact the gospel had on the culture. Ben recently edited a new book called Freedom… The post Episode 083: The Gospel and Reformation appeared first on indoubt.
Ben Virgo of Christian Heritage London spoke to Glen Scrivener about their new book ‘The Freedom Movement‘, an evangelistic book on the reformation.Support the show
Jay Smith has led a Christian ministry engaging face to face with Muslims in London for over 20 years using polemics and apologetics. As he leaves the UK to undertake an international role Beth Grove will be leading the work in London through the newly established Pfander Centre for Apologetics. They talk about the joys and challenges of reaching Muslims in the UK, those they have seen convert, why the nature of the debates have changed and the new arguments critiquing the historicity of Mecca, Mohammed and the Koran. At the end of the show Ben Virgo of Christian Heritage London drops in to talk about the amazing history of London’s landmarks and the Christian figures who lived and worked there. For Pfander Centre for Apologetics http://www.pfander.uk For the documentary Up the Ladder in Hyde Park http://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable/Episodes/Unbelievable-Up-the-Ladder-in-Hyde-Park-Muslims-Christians-in-debate For Jay’s 2014 debate with Shabir Ally http://www.pfander.uk/videos/the-classical-debates-which-is-the-word-of-god-the-bible-or-the-quran-jay-smith-vs-dr-shabir-ally/ For Christian Heritage London http://www.christianheritagelondon.org/ For Unbelievable? Live in the USA on Sat 27 Aug http://www.truthmattersministries.com/events/unbelievable-live/ Order Unbelievable? The Conference 2016 DVD/MP3CD http://www.premier.org.uk/Shop For more faith debates visit http://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable Join the conversation: Facebook and Twitter Get the MP3 Podcast of Unbelievable? Via RSS or Via Itunes