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Theresa Goh is an award-winning Paralympic swimmer from Singapore. Though Paralympic glory slipped through her fingers in 2008, her grit and love of swimming brought her to the champions' podium in 2016, when she won her first Paralympic medal. This podcast is a production of Rebel Girls. It's based on the book series Good Night Stories for Rebel Girls. This story was produced by Deborah Goldstein with sound design and mixing by Reel Audiobooks. It was written by Alexis Stratton and edited by Abby Sher. Fact-checking by Joe Rhatigan. Narration by Vera Tan. Original theme music was composed and performed by Elettra Bargiacchi. Thank you to the whole Rebel Girls team who make this podcast possible. Stay rebel!

Today on #TheBIGShowTV, we are joined by Thenuga Vijakumar and Theresa Goh, President and member of the board of Cat Welfare Society. We'll be discussing the legalisation of cat ownership in HDBs, abuse cases and what they see in the future welfare of Singapore's cats. Connect with us on Instagram: @kiss92fm @Glennn @angeliqueteo @thefdsg  Producer: @shalinisusan97 @ashleylimwmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today on #TheBIGShowTV, we are joined by Thenuga Vijakumar and Theresa Goh, President and member of the board of Cat Welfare Society. We'll be discussing the legalisation of cat ownership in HDBs, abuse cases and what they see in the future welfare of Singapore's cats. Connect with us on Instagram: @kiss92fm @Glennn @angeliqueteo @thefdsg  Producer: @shalinisusan97 @ashleylimwmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Malaysia's 2022 budget touches on a few interesting structural changes. Ibrahim Sani speaks with Theresa Goh, Tax Executive Director of Deloitte to understand more.

On this episode of Sports Talk Sunday, Marc Lim and James Walton join me to: 1. Preview the Euro 2020 results from the matches that happened last night/this morning. 2. Christian Eriksen incident 3. Where are the goals going to come from for the Lions? We look at some interesting stats. 4. Time to send our footballers abroad? In the 2nd hour, former Paralympics medalist Theresa Goh is in the hot seat talking about her life and sports. Amazing interview, really enjoyed talking to her.

The Future of Work, Now podcast focuses on how we work and connect has fundamentally changed. It will highlight the people and businesses that are leading with values, changing the way we work, and bettering our community. The podcast comprises four seasons where business leaders, members of the community, and thought-provoking guests will discuss key themes such as Business as a Platform for Change, Future of Work, Technology in Hyperspeed, and the Digital Imperative. Our first guest, Paralympian and all-round national icon Theresa Goh, speaks on accessibility inclusion and the work she's put in to be where she is today.

A swimmer and paralympian, Theresa Goh holds many world records under her name and for Singapore. In the 2016 Summer Paralympics, Goh won a bronze medal in the 100m breaststroke final, her first medal since her debut in 2004. She overcame many challenges in her journey to become a paralympian. This is her story.

Today the Perikatan Nasional government presented Budget 2021, the much-anticipated plan for dealing with the on-going Covid-19 public health crisis and a global recession that has all but obliterated large sectors of the economy. Has it lived up to expectation? Melisa Idris, Sharaad Kuttan and Ibrahim Sani speaks to Theresa Goh, Tax Partner, Deloitte Malaysia and Datuk Shamsuddin Bardan, Executive Director, Malaysian Employers Federation.

This conversation takes us to Singapore to talk with Theresa Goh. Theresa is a Paralympic swimmer and, most of all, a trailblazer. Born with congenital spina bifida, Theresa does not have use of her legs, but that didn't stop her from becoming an internationally acclaimed athlete. She was the first female Singaporean swimmer to qualify for the Paralympics, and holds the world records for the SB4 50 meters and 200 meters breaststroke events. On top of that, Theresa was the first openly queer athlete in Singaporean history. Recently retired, Theresa continues to advocate for athletes with disabilities and she represents Athlete Ally as a pro ambassador. Follow Theresa: Instagram: @wheelie_wonka Twitter: @theresagoh_ Follow Athlete Ally: Website: https://www.athleteally.org Instagram: @athleteally Twitter: @AthleteAlly Facebook: @AthleteAlly The Straits Times articles on Theresa: 'It Feels like the Right Time': Paaralypic Swimmer Theresa Goh Opens up about Her Sexuality Swimming: Theresa Goh, unicorn of the water, hangs up her goggles Also Discussed in this episode: Bak Kut Teh, Theresa's favorite dish --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/socialsport/support

Coronavirus lockdowns have meant the Olympics are postponed, small gyms face threat of permanent closures, professional athletes are training in isolation and a plethora of home workouts are offered online. Could the way we have continued to do sports through a pandemic help the industry become more inclusive in the future? In this episode Petrina and Laurindo check in with Moses James from Innervate Fitness, Paralympic medalist Theresa Goh, rising junior tennis star Michelle Yeo and fitness buff/actor Dwayne Lau. TRANSCRIPT Laurindo Garcia: [00:00:00] Welcome to another episode of Inclusively. In this series, we are asking the question, how has the pandemic changed people's lives and what lessons have we learned that could make a quick pandemic world more inclusive? I mean, host Laurindo Garcia. Petrina Kow: [00:00:13] And I'm Petrina Kow. Welcome, everybody. Well, today's theme is all about sports and fitness. How has this whole circuit breaker affected your ability to do sport and keep fit? You know, as a ex national swimmer, Laurindo. Wow. Let me tell you. I think so. It's so so far as you've known me. I've been the most unathletic both. And, you know, right. Laurindo Garcia: [00:00:40] That's not true. That's not true. You're the one. You're one of the very few people has been very consistent with putting Instagram fitness workouts on in the time that I've known you. Petrina Kow: [00:00:50] So you see, this is the problem, Laurindo. Because every time you do actually see a pose for me is the only time I exercise. So if you count the number of posts, that's the number or type of I've actually exercised and I have a very fraught relationship with them, with sport only because, you know, I think in my youth I overdid it to that point where it wasn't I don't think it was in my blood to be a national, you know, athlete really. I very much wanted to be singing and dancing on stage, which is why I think when I when I decided to take a different path, sports, at least fitness for me took a real backseat because like I always viewed exercise as some sort of punishment. You know, it was a very emotional thing. Like every time I had to put on a swimsuit, it was like, you know, like my body just goes into, like a thing and, you know. But then I kind of took that fitness for granted a lot. From my twenties to my thirties are now in my 40s when I'm feeling everything break down and I'm starting up again. I really kind of wished I didn't have that two year, two decade long sort of hiatus where I did nothing to keep my body in shape, writes it today. And I think, you know, I've been seeing so many people sort of work out on together. And I myself have been taking weekly sort of Zoom yoga classes. So I'm I'm really interested to find out from our company today how they've been all sort of like, you know, doing like those professional sports and athletes. And how is it really affected them? And so today on our panel, we have Moses. James, I think you might find him familiar because we interviewed him for our first episode. He's a co-founder of Innervate Fitness, a fitness social enterprise who offers cross cross fit to senior citizens and people with physical disabilities. And so he is coming, coming to join us. And we'll also be joined by two rising young national sports stars, Michelle Yeo, who has represented Singapore for the Junior Federation Cup under 16. And we'll also be speaking to Dwayne Lau, who was our artisan residents for this episode. Hello. Welcome, Dwayne. Laurindo Garcia: [00:02:54] And our panel would not be complete without national swimmer and Paralympic medalist two years ago. Also be joining us as well and giving her perspective on sports in the time of Covid as well. Welcome Theresa. Right. So shall we dive in? I'm going to go to you, Moses. It's great to have you back on the show. You you Innervate. Fitness had the honour of being featured in our very first episode of this podcast. We're so proud to to have led this whole series with your story. How are you doing? Moses James: [00:03:26] I'm doing OK. Hanging in there. You know, we're really happy that we get to be a part of this initiative. That being because it is doing. Yeah, I think it's been an interesting couple of months for for us. But all this going on. Laurindo Garcia: [00:03:42] I can imagine so where we left off with the last time we spoke to you. You were telling us about how things were looking great for Innervate. I mean, you are you are you are getting a lot of great traction where there are offering of classes for Senior Citizens your Silvers program and also your adaptive programs as well for adaptive sports, among your other offerings for. For other people who you want to keep fit right. And that was the beginning of the year. Right. And so how have things changed for you? Moses James: [00:04:14] So, I mean, on top of the work that we do with senior citizens and persons with disabilities, we also work very closely with the youth at risk. And every year we have a annual fitness charity fundraiser called Operation Broken Wing. And it was scheduled to be executed in February. And I see so in January, were busy planning for it. It took quite a bit of effort to get this thing done. It's like a 500 to 600 people kind of event over the last six years that we've run it we raised. I think close to 800000. This is a very grassroots kind of initiative. So this is quite cool. But once this thing came about, then we had to make a difficult decision to stop and. Was pointed to the end of the year, and then when the circuit breaker kicked in, that order kind of went out the window. So aside from the regular programs that you're running with adaptives and silvers, this big event was also something that kind of took a hit and it really changed our runway for the rest of the year. Laurindo Garcia: [00:05:24] So just to be clear, is it that Operation Broken Wing for this year is still postponed or was it canceled or what's the status with that event? Moses James: [00:05:32] So. So right right now we are planning to hopefully run a small version of it in person and maybe a virtual element to be added on as well. So that's that's the current plan. But we do know, based on how the guidelines are with the regular classes and stuff. It was a mad scramble to kind of launch equipment out on members, you know, and get them up to speed on how to use it and get ourselves familiar with it as well. So I guess that's the biggest, biggest change. Laurindo Garcia: [00:06:10] A lot of the gym owners that I've been speaking to have done similar things. They've quickly switched and offering online classes or work, be it live or recorded, started renting out their equipment for their empty gyms that, you know, it's really heartbreaking to hear about. I've got some rented equipment at the back here myself. And so I can just imagine what that was like having to scramble at the last minute. And you've been doing that since April. And they had announced what the relaxation of the circuit breaker would look like. And they said that gyms would be in a phase, too. So how was that news received at your end? I mean, and how how has going online been of benefit to the company to Innervate, if at all? Moses James: [00:07:02] So for the first part, you got to phase two and when gyms will be open. I think when they announced it, you know, the circuit breaker is going to kick in in that period, that couple of these things kept changing. The rules kept changing. And so it's very tiring to try and stay ahead of it. And when they announced that they were going to extend the circuit breaker. And then subsequently when they announced like phase one, phase two, I think for us, like my partner and I, we kind of came to terms with the fact that hey this uncertainty is huge and there's really only so much planning that's actually going to be effective. I mean, we don't really know. So it's not feasible to to make too detailed a plan. This is going to wear you out. So right now, our stance is okay, face to be doing a wind. It is. But we do know when it happens. These are a few things that we kind of want to do. Will it get people back? Based on what the guidelines are. Facilitate the return of the equipment and then. The question that you asked about how we've had to adapt to it. The online classes that we've been doing, we've been working hard to add value to it because everybody's giving classes online and you can offer your classes for free even, which is what we're doing for now. But the value and making sure that it's something that's sustainable and meaningful for people. It takes a bit of effort. So we've made some headway with that. And we're looking to continue that even after phase two, because we anticipate that there'll be some people who will prefer to continue looking up from home for whatever reasons. So we want to make that a useful experience for them. So that's taken up a lot of our headspace as well. Laurindo Garcia: [00:08:53] I can just imagine the amount of uncertainty you're having to deal with right now at the beginning of circuit breaker. And now it's still something you just it just doesn't make sense to be planning out. But it sounds like you are managing to keep your head above water. Thank you. Do stay on the line with us because we are gonna continue the conversation. I want to welcome Theresa go to the conversation right now. Hi, Theresa. How are you? Theresa Goh: [00:09:18] Hi, Laurindo. I'm doing well. Laurindo Garcia: [00:09:21] Good so. So last time we connected. It's been a little while. But I think that the last time you were in the news was when you announced your your retirement from sports. That was at the end of last year. Was that right? Theresa Goh: [00:09:35] Yeah, I think I retired September, October around there. And then I had a couple of months to myself before I started job searching. And I think I was talking to my friends a couple of these maybe last week or something. And I was just saying how I feel like it was really good timing because I managed to get a job I. Walking for maybe a month or a couple weeks, and then that was really the start of everything. Everything. And then and then now I've been pretty much mostly working from home. So I feel like then the normal for me is working from home, which is I feel like it's gonna be a struggle going back to work. I'm going to be like today. Today. I have to go to work today. Yeah. I think I've been I've been I still been talking to a lot of my friends who either qualified for the Olympic or Paralympic Games or are in the midst of qualifying. And I think they've been. Everything's been on hold. So they've had their own struggles with that, having to move. As with many things, they have to move things online and just digitise everything. So and when the team has to monitor all the workouts. It's all done over Zoom or Skype or whatever. Yeah. I think everybody's just have to they've had to really adapt really quickly because, you know, like, what was this? It is really uncertain. And I think it's expected because of the situation that we we would all like clear a clear kind of road to go out, off, you know, and to know when we can get out of here. But because of this, they kind of unraveling situation, how uncontrollable it is. I think it's so hard to just be able to get a clear answer, which is the root of all the frustration, you know, when you don't know. It's it's hard. Yeah. Laurindo Garcia: [00:11:52] I mean, this year was meant to be an Olympic year. Right. And, you know, I'm sure you've got many friends who were in training still as well. And, you know, we could see that that was the big cliffhanger question a couple of months back, you know, would Tokyo continue or not? It's such a big buildup and people have been training for years up until this point. And so when they finally made the decision, while everybody knew it was the wise thing to do from a public health perspective, there's also there's also an emotional element as well. I mean, what were some of the things that you're hearing about from your friends when you don't need to name any names? But you know what? What was kind of like the. Theresa Goh: [00:12:35] General. Laurindo Garcia: [00:12:35] Vibe? Theresa Goh: [00:12:36] Yeah. Yeah. I mean, frustration is definitely one of the main thing with it applies to everybody. I think when you have a plan and then you are not allowed to carry. True. It is frustrating as hell. And I think it's the same for all of us, everybody, you know, for Tokyo, even though I had no plans to go compete. But I was planning to go and watch. So I had tickets, accommodation. And so even that is has to be postponed and arranged differently because I have to go. I'm not going this year, you know, and I think for a lot of my friends, it's just. Because we're athletes I feel like there's a lot of I like to see the athlete mindset. So they didn't really dwell on it too long. They knew that change was made is done. There's nothing you can do about it. And time really waits for nobody. You can't say it. Times stop. Possibly. You know, there's no there's no there's no way. And so we just kind of roll with the punches a bit and deal with things as they come along.And I think for a lot of my friends, that's the way they're dealing with it, just, you know, dealing with things as they come in. And when they finally announced the dates for the new OGPG games, I think that give some relief because at least there's some something look forward to. But, you know, I think under that, there's always still that. What if by then there's still no clear picture, then what will we do? You know, I think this does that worry. But we put that aside, you know, just kind of what we want with whatever we have right now. I love that. Petrina Kow: [00:14:23] Thanks for saying that, Theresa, about the athlete's mindset, because I think, you know what? What really struck me as especially when I was training was, you know, we we think of it as so much of a physical feat. Right. But then I think all athletes know that is so much more of a mind and a mind game in a way, for, you know, this for a lot of the top athletes and what really sets apart. Right. Big, big champions or whatever. And, you know, and I'm speaking to Ashley, Isabelle's mom, when I was inviting her on the show. And she was also expressing frustration that, you know, in the school system, we have prioritize the academics over sports. Right. But, you know, these were the first thing to go and it's not coming back. And when we we're coming back to school, it's to prioritize the ones who are taking exams. Right, because they have to. And I totally understand the mindset. But yet, at the same time, it does really signal to our population where we put our emphasis, you know, and then we're saying sports can wait, you know? And I mean, I get it there. Everybody has their, you know, sort of like priority is right and where it kind of hits them. But I really appreciate it. You sort of mentioning that, you know, sports is in so many ways is is a mental game. So thanks for that Theresa. Do hang on. We have lots more to chat with about it. But now I'd like to bring on a young lady who who have I've known since she was very, very young and I haven't seen her in a while. And I'm so happy to see how she's progressed and really have grown in her sport. She is ranked number one in 2017 and 18 for her age group. She's represented Singapore in the Junior Federation Cup and tennis. And I think she is actually pursuing this in a full time basis. So she's going around the world training with different professional sort of teams. But obviously, all that has had to take a stop. So everyone say welcome and hello to Michelle. Hi, Michelle. Michelle Yeo: [00:16:28] Hello Petrina Kow: [00:16:28] So I've always known that you've been playing tennis since you were a very very young girl. And you were very powerful. And I think it runs in your in the genes because her mom was the national tennis player as well. But when did this whole sort of like taking it really seriously and go full time happen for you? Maybe you could fill us in on your journey a little bit. Michelle Yeo: [00:16:50] I think I really started to consider this full time tennis path when I was in secondary later part of the year. So that would be in 2018. So in the later part, I was still in school and at the start of last year I decided to go full time. So I moved to China. And in order to pursue tennis while studying online at the same time. Petrina Kow: [00:17:16] Wow. And. And what about like, you know, sort of going to Sec 1 and, you know, playing tennis? Did you kind of go, okay? I think I want to take this seriously, because in many ways, most other kids were just sort of to school and do sport at the same time. But what made you sort of go I won this. Michelle Yeo: [00:17:35] When I was in Primary 6, starting from Primary 6. I said travelling around the region to play a lot of tournaments and that continue into sank one. And I found that, you know, I was not I was struggling to balance both stay in school and study while still going in and going up to play tournament. So. My thought processes like if I'm staying in school, I'm not a great tennis player, but also I'm not a good students. So I decided to go full time to see where this would take me. Petrina Kow: [00:18:03] Yeah. And how has that journey been so far? It's been almost two or three years, right? Michelle Yeo: [00:18:07] This year. The second year. So last year t was great as training a lot. I was playing a lot of tournaments. But this year, at the start of this year, the virus came around. And I've just been. I haven't been on the court in two months has just been very frustrating. Petrina Kow: [00:18:23] Yeah. Gosh, I can imagine. So how have you adapted your training or have you been in touch with your tennis coaches and what have they been telling you to do? Michelle Yeo: [00:18:34] So most of my coaches are in China, so I communicate with them through WeChat. So I would train outside and I would take videos of myself and send it to them and ask, oh, am I doing this right? I've lately I've been working more technical since I'm just at home, so that would be my shadow swings. Not so much like hitting live balls since there's no tennis court to play on. Petrina Kow: [00:18:59] I was just thinking because Laurindo's husband actually showed me a video of him playing tennis into like hitting tennis balls into a curtain. That that could be a new thing, you know, indoor tennis. But also I was thinking about tennis in general as a sport and how the two tennis players are so separated by this massive fence. But are naturally social distancing anyway. So maybe tennis is one of those sports that, hey, guys, maybe we can do this. What do you think? Michelle Yeo: [00:19:33] I think is good. I think we could do that potentially. But there will also be some people who you want to socialize when you go out with your friend. Right. So after you play tennis and you'll be like, hey, let's sit down here and talk for a while. So there's like, you know, Petrina Kow: [00:19:48] That's what that's where the tennis shield, like the you know, the face shields. Come on. Michelle Yeo: [00:19:53] Yeah. Maybe. Petrina Kow: [00:19:55] See, it almost looks like a you know, one of those. What, the obasans used to wear right when they go out and they shield themselves from the sun. It looks the same. So it's cool. You guys will be used to it. Oh, that's so wonderful to hear. So are you are you feeling like. Okay, so your plan was to go full time? You bet. You know, it's based overseas, but now this has happened. What have you learned about this whole process? And what what are you sort of like working to kind of maybe improve? Michelle Yeo: [00:20:28] I feel like this whole experience has helped improve my mental because I have every day I wake up and there's no tournament to prepare for this. I'm not going to go into court, but I start to get a bit I have to do fitness. I still have to work on my technique enough to still communicate with my coaches. So I feel that this is more is it is telling me mentally, more than physically. Petrina Kow: [00:20:54] Yeah. And I mean, I suppose, you know, when you get to travel again and get back to training, maybe this this period would have taught you some very, very valuable lessons. I mean, I suppose we're still in the process, so we don't really know what that might be yet. But it's really great that you're having these, you know, these realizations at such an early age. You know, you sound so mature for your kids. Fifteen. Michelle Yeo: [00:21:19] Yeah Petrina Kow: [00:21:19] That's amazing. Thank you so much for sharing your story, Michelle. And I really wish and hope that for your sake, you will get back in the court again at some some kind of court soon or be able to handle balls and hit them around somewhere. Hang on. We'll be chatting with you very shortly. And next, I'd like to invite a girlfriend whom usually I get to see, you know, donning a wig. And I tell you, this guy has many wigs. Okay. And you might have seen him on YouTube doing many, many parody videos. But one of the reasons I decided to get you on this episode, Dwayne, is because I think amongst the artists or the arts community, you have been such a beacon and such an inspiration to all of us in your fitness journey. I think, you know, sometimes amongst us, we kind of kid and joke about your hashtags, right? Hashtag, keep perspiring. Hashtag keep inspiring. But when we post those sweaty selfies, we have very I at least for me, I have you very much in mind. And I think you have singlehandedly, you know, like made Coach Jake synonymous with all the, you know, performers in Singapore. And he's like the coach to the artists. Right. But tell us maybe about your fitness journey, because it was quite a dramatic shift for you, right, some years back when you decided to start this? Dwayne Lau: [00:22:46] Yeah, I've I've never been a sports person at all since young. And in fact, I was I was a fat kid. I signed up for basketball when I was in Primary 3. And after the first session, they made us run around the school. I just. I can not, I want to quit. And sadly, I didn't have very good teachers or coaches that would encourage me to do so. So I just never went into that realm. So along the way, along the way, I think I became an a little bit unhealthy. So about four years ago, I went for a medical checkup and it's one of those compulsory medical checkups in the army. And they said, hey, you need to do something about your weight and your health because you stand a very high risk of heart disease. And I was like, oh, no, I don't what do. I mean. I've been I've been trying you know, I go online, I see YouTube videos, I follow them, I do HIIT exercises. I did this thing called T25. But if you don't have anybody to be accountable to is just yourself. And the YouTube video that doesn't know that you exist, you know that it stops after a while. So finally I thought, OK, yeah I, I really need to do something about it. And I went online and I was looking for a coaches and I found this particular coaches names, Coach Jake, and he was a mutual friend. So I asked my friend, hey, is this guy reliable? Is he just in for the money or what? You know, is he good? So I had a chat with him online and I met up with him and he was telling me, you know, what are your goals? I said, I basically need to be healthy. And of course, I want to lose weight. And I'm I'm an actor. And the industry saw the aesthetics. And the physicality is also important because sometimes if you're too big or, you know you're too heavy, it's very hard to take on certain roles. And you might I always was getting cast as the father as the old man because I was big. So I somehow now I look much older than myself. And it was a bit frustrating saw there was there was a point. I said, okay, like maybe I'll just be a fat actor, you know, it's okay. But I think for me what was most important was a health that I needed to arrest that problem. And I thought, okay, I'll go with this. And cause Jake told me something very important. He said, I'm not here to get you fit and point. I'm here to help you in your health. You know, I'm not here about the aesthetics. The aesthetics will come. So don't hunger for best ethics, hunger for for consistency. And things will flow. And I thought that was very wise was because then I won't keep looking in the mirror. You know, I was just doing it. And it's been four years and I am still with Coach Jake. And he put me on different programs, including diet programs as well. And I saw I mean, my body was changing. I mean, I lost weight. I built muscles in areas I didn't know. I have muscles. And I was working out very consistently and I became a lot healthier. I fell sick less. I've seen a doctor very, very little in these four years. And I'm I'm really happy for that. And I mean, I'm keeping it consistent because it is it is a journey. I mean, you know, there's new goals that you have to to keep setting for yourself. So you don't. You don't at all. Petrina Kow: [00:25:46] Yeah. And I mean, how is it actually direct, directly affected your work? So now that you have had this level of fitness and you look different. Like how how have you seen the way you've been casted maybe or even just in your own performance? Dwayne Lau: [00:26:00] Right. I think it has given me a lot of stamina in terms of choreography and musicals. So recently that was last year we went to Shanghai for this musical called the Liao Jai Rocks. And it was it was shown on YouTube a few weeks ago by the theater practice. And it's a very intensive musical. The choreography is crazy, is like doing HIIT and singing at the same time. So when when we were cast for the show, the director told us, you guys need to condition your bodies before you come in for rehearsals. And we're like. What are we doing? Why do we need to condition our body before rehearsals starts? And I think I went in a little bit apprehensive, but I was like, okay, like, yeah, can I get four years of, like, constant hit all the time and all. How bad can it be? And I'm quite glad that it wasn't too difficult because I wasn't like finding myself. I did find myself panting. My core actors, though, some of them need a bit more time to get conditioned because we would do a whole chorus with full choreography. I would be okay. They would be. I'd like a hashtag. Coach Jake. Yeah. So it has really helped me. Yeah. It has given me a lot more confidence about myself also. And in terms of my physicality as well, you know, I don't feel so heavy. I don't feel so cumbersome. I'm a lot more agile. So it definitely has helped me in terms of my my movement and my physical space, my mental speeds as well. A lot more confident and a lot more alert. So that helps in the reception of the choreography and the steps. Petrina Kow: [00:27:36] And I guess, you know, later on you'll you'll understand why I asked him to come here, because I think only he could have performed this ridiculous song, which he adapted, you know, lyrics to from other musicals. And he is literally swinging Kettleback Kettlebells and doing burpees as he is dancing and singing. Okay. Only Dwayne Lau can do this because after watching it, I was just panting in my living room, having done nothing. Right. But thank you so much for sharing your passion with us. You know, I have hired Coach Jake for myself. I have worked out with you online. It is intense people, but it is such a wonderfully warm community of people who have come together to really sort of share their love for just sort of, you know, keeping each other accountable and fit. And I think more than anything is just your your positivity and your enthusiasm. That is really infectious, Dwayne. That is that is so wonderful. So do stay on the line. We're gonna be chatting with you again. But, yeah, over to you. Laurindo, we can talk about this. We're not throw it open to the floor now, so to speak. So we've got some interesting questions to pose to you guys. Laurindo Garcia: [00:28:49] Yeah, that's right. I mean, we we we live in extraordinary times, right? We're seeing the sports industry, the sports sector do things that we thought they would never do before. I mean, first of all, the the the the thing that nobody saw coming was just the closure of a lot of professional sports. You know, the football, basketball, all these things shut down earlier on in the year. And I know many people were crying as a result of all of these announcements. But then as the pandemic has evolved and progressed and now we're seeing new things, you know, Petrina and I were talking before we started the the today's episode and talking about how the NBA are now in residence at Disneyland. I mean, among all things like, you know, the way I see this is that, you know, professional sports are trying to find a way to keep the show going. It's it's almost theatrical. But to those spectators, right. They're gonna be living in isolation, just like the football teams in Europe are also just playing to stadiums with nobody there. Right. Is that what would you what do you read about Petrina? Petrina Kow: [00:29:55] Yeah. And, you know, even for in in Japan. Like baseball fans now can text and send cheers and jeers via an app. So there they're actually like. So they'll bill they'll like put it around these loudspeakers into the stadium to recreate the feeling of being playing to a spectator as those that knew him or like. And it's coming out of speakers in an empty stadium. So it keeps that atmosphere alive because so much of spectator sports is the fans. Is the atmosphere as a sounds and all of that. Right. So I don't know what you guys think about that and how, you know you know, how do we see perhaps if if this was a way forward? How do we see sports adapting? I mean, I think the only thing I have questions about is maybe swimming because like, how do you bring Zoom into the water. Laurindo Garcia: [00:30:53] From all of these things? We'd love to hear from you. What new opportunities do you see with all of these innovations? I mean, surely with with things going online, with the greater use of technology, then surely there are groups who have not been able to participate before, are now suddenly included. Theresa, what do you what do you think? Theresa Goh: [00:31:13] I definitely think when one of the first things that I realized quite quickly when everything started going online was that there were certain events I felt like would suddenly go to, you know, previously they were held that maybe like upstairs and there was no order access to it physically. So when it moved online, suddenly I didn't have to do anything but click, go into a room, you know. So in that aspect, I felt like the access was so different that it was suddenly accessible to me. But of course, that's less only from my point of view. I had difficulty's physically accessing the space. There's still a kind of access points, like whether they have captions, whether they have sign language, you know, this kind of stuff which I don't need excessively. I said accessibility wise. But there are people who do. And in the original kind of space, there would still have not been like sign language interpreter. So nothing has changed, you know, for some people. I feel like when it comes to sport, a lot of times we were. A lot of us are not just a sport, but in general we're really comfortable the way we were. And then pretty used to human contact, physical contact, and then, you know, like having to be able to physically move your athlete and show them the right stance to be. I think we were all kind of taking that for granted. And then now we have to do it online. We have to learn how to use our words. And then I think that that kind of I hope makes better coaches. Being able to communicate better with people. I think I hope that helps that this kind of forces people to get out of their comfort zones to be better to improve. Yeah, I think I kind of look at it as a. From a positive point of view. Cause just as so much negativity, I just can't take on anymore. So this does my my way of looking at it is how positive things occur also. And to also look at the end of hopefully the end of the rainbow and being able to see good things come out of it. It's a terrible time. Let's let's all be honest. Like is not is not a good thing we're going through. But there's still ways to look at it positively. Petrina Kow: [00:33:47] Yeah. I mean, Michelle, for you in in in tennis, I know it's very much, you know, you against your opponent, but at the same time, it's very much a spectator sport as well. So have you felt I mean, do you find that, you know, do you play better when you have people there cheering and rooting for you or do you actually not need an audience? Michelle Yeo: [00:34:07] Personally, I don't really pay much attention to the audience. So if there's a crowd there, there's no crowd there. I feel like I play the same. So that's like it does affect me. But from this from the Covid 19, I feel that a lot of things have went online and it's not as easy like as I say, it is nice, easy to come. I feel like it's I mean, it's not as easy as I thought it would be to communicate my thoughts. Like earlier in the second break, I had injured myself, so I had to call my physio and she was like she didn't really know what was happening with my wrist because she would if I go to her, she would carry out some tests. And you know what? What happens? But I had to do the test by myself because she couldn't be here physically to tell. Check out my wrist. Yeah. Petrina Kow: [00:35:00] Yeah. And you be like, I can turn my wrist. Two degrees. Right. But my fourth finger. And I'll go up. Michelle Yeo: [00:35:08] Yeah, something like that. Petrina Kow: [00:35:11] Oh, my goodness. Yeah, I know. I'm very, very, very looking forward to a massage. That's all I can say to the point that I actually bought myself one of those massage guns was how desperate I was. So I highly recommended, by the way. What do you reckon, Moses? I mean, what are some of your thoughts on that? Moses James: [00:35:29] Like, I think that all of this has forced people to find ways to stay connected online. I guess that's the only thing that can be done immediately. So because of this as well, it's kind of given us a little bit more access like Theresa said. But to to beneficiaries and people that we normally wouldn't have had a chance to work with or explore working with because we are constrained by the physical resources we have left. Can we go down. How many people do we have to send to a place to teach? We were like with some senior activity centres as well. And so we're looking with these organisations like how can we use technology to bring that fitness for these people even though we can't go to them physically? And I mean, it's kind of been shared already, but making that human connection now without being able to physically be present someone is extremely challenging. You know what it's like being able to give a tactile cue to an athlete or to assess what's wrong with them in person. Like that's so much easier to do and we don't really have that now. So I agree with these. I share about how it's kind of forced us to rethink exactly how we're going about doing our craft. And it's it's a good and a bad thing because inherently certain groups do not benefit from this. Like we've had classes. And we do it all the time as well, that we've got classes where we have hearing and visually impaired individuals in the same group and and on. Zoom, when you have this like it's been bumpy trying to conduct a class for everyone when their class puts someone who is visually impaired, who's who doesn't know that the camera, even though is facing them, they don't know that it's not perfectly very wanted to be at the same time with them verbally explaining something like my hearing. But he has no idea what's going on. So we're frantically trying to sign or type to him. So that's been a bit bumpy as well. I guess it's a limitation of what we're doing now. And the other thing that I think is a good thing that has come out of all this, everybody coming together online, is that it reinforces now. Now everyone has like a shared struggle is very obvious. And so it kind of reinforces to our community, at least, they're like, hey, look, this is a safe space for you to open up if you're not feeling too good. You know, the narrative about constant positivity sometimes can be a bit contrived, feels a bit forced. It's like you need to be positive. Pressure's on you. You have to portray a happy image to everybody all the time. And I think because this affecting everyone, like we have had a unique chance now to. When we hold our Zoom socials and like the aunties and uncles and the young kids and adaptive athletes all come together and just talk. They get a chance to kind of feel safe in knowing that, hey, if I don't feel too good or I'm kind of gone, I have a community here. I have access to someone who is willing to try and help me out, even if I'm doing too well themselves. So I guess there's been one benefit of all that's happened. Yeah. Petrina Kow: [00:38:52] Yeah. Thanks for that. I mean, I, I think it's so wonderful that you are able to pull these different communities together in the one space and then have them kind of meet this maybe, you know, in a physical space, they would not normally have had a chance to bump up against each other. So usually before we close, we have one question that we'd like to pose to all our guests. We'll start with you, Dwayne. If you had a magic wand and I know you have many, honey. What would you change about the way, you know, our society is arranged at the moment? And if you could, you know, make maybe it's sports or anything else really more inclusive. What would you do with that? Dwayne Lau: [00:39:38] Yes, I. I think I. Being a fat kid. I think it's necessary to be able to help educate us, inspire bigger sized children who may not be very sporty. So I think if fat kids can know, hey, don't worry, let's let's have fun. This particular sport, you know, I wouldn't call it a syllabus, but something that can inspire them because I think there's Tough Club, so it feels as though when you're a fat kid, you're doomed for a fat lifestyle unless. And it's always an inspiring story that causes them to change. You know, are a lot of like bodybuilders now who used to be fat kids. But I feel that if that inspiration can come at a very early age in primary schools, something that can inspire them. A program. Take away the Tough Club, the shaming, you know, it's something that can. Hey, this is something you can do. If we can come up with that. I think the world will be a better place. There'll be lesser shaming. There'll be people with more confidence. You know, people will be more confident by themselves about their bodies and about their energies. So that's what I'd like to change if I had the power. Petrina Kow: [00:40:44] I think you are in some ways doing that already. Dwayne, so thank you for that. Michelle, how about you? If you had a little magic wand, what would you do with that? Michelle Yeo: [00:40:52] There's a lot of things I would do that. But I feel like over the past few years, the tennis community has been getting more and more inclusive. This this was done through team events like into schools and team tennis leagues. But I feel like what would help the tennis community become more inclusive would be maybe organising more charity events and volunteer work. Personally, I have taken part in a few, too. I think I believe two years back I took part in a tour, a volunteer charity work for one of the four WTA that was organised by WTA. And so in this event, we are introducing younger kids to the tennis. So I through this, I found it is very rewarding. And another example, when I my friends and I, when we were in China, we also took part in the coaches conference. So these are some examples of the charity work. But I feel like we could do more as a team in this community. We could hold more to charity and volunteer and opportunities for the tennis community to not only make the tennis community community bigger, but it can also help us bond and become closer. Laurindo Garcia: [00:42:14] I love that, Michelle. I think more sports for good, tennis for good is definitely something that could really empower and include more people who are generally don't have the opportunities to do this. I think that's a great segue way to you, Moses. You've been in the business of trying to do more opportunities, more events to enable youth at risk, seniors and also people with disabilities over the years. And so kind of moving moving that for, you know, if you had that magic wand, then what would be one thing that you would do to make these port sector more inclusive? Moses James: [00:42:51] I think if I had that magic, one thing I do is weave it and somehow get everybody on the same page. All the key stakeholders, like from governing bodies to the, you know, gyms, private sectors, to the end users, to people who are working in charities and looking for programs like. This is a good chance right now what has happened. I mean, yeah, there's a lot of advocacy coming up. People are speaking out for the fitness industry, trying to get it up and running in. Everyone's coming together now. And if everybody's on the same page about inclusion and all the good they want to do and how we're going to get it done without having to, you know, slide your own agenda again. I that's that's going to make a huge difference. That's what I'd use that magic wand for. Laurindo Garcia: [00:43:40] So getting more alignment and making sure that we're all on the same page and that there's clarity in it being a party as we move forward. Thank you for that, Moses. How about you, Theresa? How would you use your magic wand? Theresa Goh: [00:43:53] I think I'm pretty much on the same page with the with Moses. And I think if we all had a clearer vision to work towards without hidden agendas, I think that would be really helpful. No diversion. I think for me, it would just be on kind of my own selfish point of view because I used to be a Paralympian. I think just being able to see better equality on that stand would be something I would. I'm looking forward to. I think I've seen a lot of progress over the past number of years and in being able to see people take disabled athletes seriously and taking our craft seriously. Not kind of seeing us as a second hand Olympic Games. I think that would. Well, that would be ideal. Anything. For this. It boils down to the very, very basic essence of seeing a disabled person as a person. And then you build from there, because I think a lot of times that is the from that foundation of how you view a person with disability. Yeah. Laurindo Garcia: [00:45:23] So changing mindsets is what I heard as what. Theresa Goh: [00:45:27] Mind sets and other things, Laurindo Garcia: [00:45:29] Mindsets and also elevating the craft. Right. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Ok. Thank you so much for all of those ideas. And we're putting that out into the universe and hopefully ah ah ah. Our wishes and our magic wands will, will come through. We're in the homestretch. In a minute, Dwayne, you'll be taking us out with a song. Now I know there's a story behind the song that you'll be offering us today. What is that story? Please, please tell us more. Dwayne Lau: [00:45:57] Well, I was commissioned by the Esplanade Flipside committee to write a show for this this program. And it was called. So I wrote the show and it's called Hashtag Goals. And it's about basically achieving your goals in life. And if you don't have a goal, basically you don't the vision. You can't do anything. So you have to set goals. And I wanted the show to be about my fitness journey. So I thought, okay, I need I need to have, like, a key song about. About working out. And I need to show kids that I have become fit. Oh, yes. You know. So how can I do this? And I have to show kids that I am also a performer. Musical theatre performer. That I can sing. I can dance can. And I can bloody well thought. I'm like a quadruple threat. So I thought, OK, maybe I I'll find a song. So I thought, you know, I chose a song. You Can't Stop The Beat by Hairspray. So, you know, and I thought, OK, can't stop the beat. That's quite nice because, you know, don't stop. won't stop. Keep going. And it's about it's about consistency and continuity. Right. And so I thought, OK. So I rewrote the lyrics to Can't Stop The Beat. And basically the entire song is a song where I do HIIT. So I'm doing Swinging Kettle Bells. I'm doing burpees. I'm doing crunches. I'm doing Chase The Rabbit. I'm doing a Russian Twist, Jumping Jacks, the works. And it's accompanied by Julian Wong. So it was quite fun to write. I wrote it was like, okay, no problem, I can do this. When I started choreographing for it. Right. And there was a choreographer for this thing, so I was like, oh my gosh, I really need to practice this so that when I'm performing it, I don't wanna die because I have to sound perfect right. So every day I did it as a workout, you know, like my normal routine. I would literally it will be HIIT because the song is four minutes. So it's literally one one HIIT routine. If you do Tabata, it's four minutes. Right. So is it really Tabata. So you're singing see at the same time. So I managed to do it and it was really fun because the audience's faces were like, what was going on? Is he singing his prerecorded? And I was like. No it's live. Because you would see me drenched. And I think, though think I was more worried about was my microphone getting spoiled and they wouldn't be able to hear me properly because the microphone would soak you my sweat. So I told the technicians, you know, you guys need to wrap it up so that it doesn't get soaked by my sweat. And I really want to do this because it was a journey about inspiring people I wanted to like. I think Petrina, I mentioned earlier the hashtag that I use is: keep inspiring. And I think it's very important that we in whatever we do, we inspire people because people have inspired me in my life. And that's why I do what I do. And if I can't inspire other people, then there's no point in life, basically, you know, because you don't live for yourself. So I wrote I, I wrote this song, and I hope you guys enjoy it and you are inspired to keep on going well, wherever endeavours you have. Don't stop the beat. Petrina Kow: [00:48:48] I have to say, Dwayne, you could probably, you know, do a very successful online, like aerobics class, you know, where you just teach people this exact routine and call it, you know, wanna to be a quadruple threat? And, you know, everybody that sing, dance, act and swing kettlebell at the same time. I'll tell you. I'll sign up for that. Once again, Laurindo Garcia: [00:49:12] A musical HIIT Petrina Kow: [00:49:12] A big big. And you can put up a show at the same time. Right. Once again, a big, big thank you to all our guests today. Moses James from Innervate Fitness. We have Michelle Yeo, Theresa Goh and Dwayne Lau. Thank you all for coming here. And for more information on our guests and their work. Make sure to check out the Inclusively website for details. Follow us on Apple podcast, Spotify, YouTube, and you'll be notified when new episodes are out. You can listen to us as you work out, right? Please, of course, remember to like this podcast and submit a review, if you haven't. Your feedback will really help us to improve. And you're most welcome. Laurindo Garcia: [00:49:51] And that's our show for today. So until next time, I'm Laurindo Garcia. Petrina Kow: [00:49:55] And I'm Petrina Kow thanks for listening.

#GameOfTwoHalves Episode 50: National swimmer Theresa Goh retires, and a Singapore football renaissance? Time: 13:55 mins Synopsis: A Game of Two Halves is The Straits Times' weekly sports podcast that is out every Tuesday. In this 50th episode, Bernard Lim is joined by national swimmer Theresa Goh, ST sports journalists David Lee and Nicole Chia, as they talk about Goh's career and her legacy in and outside the pool, and what sparked the national football team's recent fine results in the World Cup Qualifiers. Produced by: David Lee, Ernest Luis & Money FM's Bernard Lim Edited by: Penelope Lee & Money FM's Olivia Quay Dear readers, We are conducting consumer research to find out what types of content you like. Please click on the link below to participate in a short survey which will help us serve you better. Respondents stand a chance to win $100 shopping vouchers and get invited to participate in consumer interviews. Link: https://sph.au1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_4MwYEyWCtmRKUHH Subscribe, like and rate #GameoOfTwoHalves podcast on: Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2PwZCYU Apple Podcasts: http://str.sg/o8MK Google Podcasts: http://str.sg/oXeS Website: http://str.sg/stpodcasts Feedback to: podcast@sph.com.sg

#GameOfTwoHalves Episode 50: National swimmer Theresa Goh retires, and a Singapore football renaissance? Time: 13:55 mins Synopsis: A Game of Two Halves is The Straits Times' weekly sports podcast that is out every Tuesday. In this 50th episode, Bernard Lim is joined by national swimmer Theresa Goh, ST sports journalists David Lee and Nicole Chia, as they talk about Goh's career and her legacy in and outside the pool, and what sparked the national football team's recent fine results in the World Cup Qualifiers. Produced by: David Lee, Ernest Luis & Money FM's Bernard Lim Edited by: Penelope Lee & Money FM's Olivia Quay Dear readers, We are conducting consumer research to find out what types of content you like. Please click on the link below to participate in a short survey which will help us serve you better. Respondents stand a chance to win $100 shopping vouchers and get invited to participate in consumer interviews. Link: https://sph.au1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_4MwYEyWCtmRKUHH Subscribe, like and rate #GameoOfTwoHalves podcast on: Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2PwZCYU Apple Podcasts: http://str.sg/o8MK Google Podcasts: http://str.sg/oXeS Website: http://str.sg/stpodcasts Feedback to: podcast@sph.com.sg See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We are also celebrating the 50th episode of The Straits Times sports' podcast - Game Of Two Halves - with ST sports correspondent David Lee, ST sports journalist Nicole Chia, and national swimmer Theresa Goh, who announced her retirement earlier today.

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Theresa Goh is the first female Singaporean swimmer to qualify for the Paralympics. Vanessa and Udhara met the world-record breaker to talk about her childhood, how athletes compete over milliseconds to win races, being an openly gay public figure, and why accessibility should be a given in any space. Theresa Goh is an ambassador for Singapore's LGBT non-profit, Pink Dot, a group for everyone, straight and gay, who support the belief that everyone deserves the freedom to love. If you loved this episode, check out our other episodes on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our show and please leave us a review.   A Life Less Ordinary is produced by Nomads Bazaar and sponsored by Audio-Technica, who create high quality content creation tools.

Synopsis: Singapore may have the new National Stadium in Kallang, but it is widely acknowledged that Farrer Park has provided for decades, the real sporting soul of Singapore sports, breeding future champions and local legends, right into the current day and age with world beaters in para-athletes Yip Pin Xiu and Theresa Goh.  There are now plans for the eventual transformation of the Farrer Park fields - a hallowed ground for sports from the 1930s through to the 1980s - into a residential area.  The land is leased to national sports agency Sport Singapore, and The Straits Times understands that SportSG has to return it to the state by the middle of 2020. str.sg/oqrk We catch up with Yip, Goh and former swimming icon Ang Peng Siong in this recording at Farrer Park itself, as they share memories, thoughts on sporting heritage and why this simple-looking area has bred champions. They also talk about an online petition to save Farrer Park. str.sg/opsg Link to petition: goo.gl/bTxUCd Produced by: Jonathan Roberts & Ernest Luis Feedback to: podcast@sph.com.sg Download ST & BT podcasts for offline listening: http://str.sg/stbtpodcasts On website: http://str.sg/stpodcasts On Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2PwZCYU On iTunes: https://apple.co/2Lu4rPP On Google podcasts: http://str.sg/googlestbt See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Synopsis: Singapore may have the new National Stadium in Kallang, but it is widely acknowledged that Farrer Park has provided for decades, the real sporting soul of Singapore sports, breeding future champions and local legends, right into the current day and age with world beaters in para-athletes Yip Pin Xiu and Theresa Goh.  There are now plans for the eventual transformation of the Farrer Park fields - a hallowed ground for sports from the 1930s through to the 1980s - into a residential area.  The land is leased to national sports agency Sport Singapore, and The Straits Times understands that SportSG has to return it to the state by the middle of 2020. str.sg/oqrk We catch up with Yip, Goh and former swimming icon Ang Peng Siong in this recording at Farrer Park itself, as they share memories, thoughts on sporting heritage and why this simple-looking area has bred champions. They also talk about an online petition to save Farrer Park. str.sg/opsg Link to petition: goo.gl/bTxUCd Produced by: Jonathan Roberts & Ernest Luis Feedback to: podcast@sph.com.sg Download ST & BT podcasts for offline listening: http://str.sg/stbtpodcasts On website: http://str.sg/stpodcasts On Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2PwZCYU On iTunes: https://apple.co/2Lu4rPP On Google podcasts: http://str.sg/googlestbt

The inaugural Human Dignity Festival was held in Hong Kong in 2017 and was founded by Bess Hepworth from Planet Ally. In this podcast, Jules talks to Bess Hepworth, Petter Wallenberg from Rainbow Riots and Para Olympian, Theresa Goh about their activism work in the LGBTQ+ community. Bess established the Human Dignity Festival because she wanted to “create spaces of grace for hearts and minds to change.” Her goal was to bring all of the intersections together and open people’s eyes to “human rights issues that are about us all.” Bess united multi-faceted human rights communities and global activists to talk about allyship. The festival was attended by many human rights defenders ranging from people in the LGBTQ+ space, to refugees, migrants, human trafficking victims and their allies. Petter Wallenberg, is an activist and musician who is committed to stopping discrimination against LGBTQ+ people globally and promoting equality and freedom. He spoke to Jules about his amazing work with Rainbow Riots where he creates wonderful music and travels around the world recording vocals, often in places where is it is dangerous to be LGBTQ+. He discusses Queer cultural identity and there being a shared experience in being different. He talks about stereotypes and “understanding the struggle.” He shares his story about growing up and being gay in Sweden as a teen during the AIDS crisis, thus facing a lot of homophobia. The heart of Petter’s work with Rainbow Riots is based on creativity which he feels is a universal language. Theresa Goh is a Singaporean Para Olympic medalist and an LGBTQ+ activist. She talks about being gay in Singapore and how it is illegal for men to be gay, however, lesbians are not even recognized. She decided to speak out about her LGBTQ+ status after winning the Olympic medal in 2016, to help raise awareness of issues in the community.  She shares her amazing experiences as a Para Olympian and her positivity is infectious. Theresa is a role model and an inspirational person with a wonderful sense of humour. The next Human Dignity Festival, to be held in Hong Kong will be coinciding with International Day of Tolerance on November 16, 2018.  https://www.humandignityfestival.org/ Planet Ally: https://www.planetally.org/                                                        Rainbow Riots: http://rainbowriots.org/                                               Theresa Goh: https://www.facebook.com/theresagohruisi/ Please visit my Patreon page if you would like to sponsor the production of Hong Kong Confidential Podcast. I have many great rewards to offer my supporters. Thanks for taking the time to check out the page https://www.patreon.com/hongkongconfidential?alert=2 Email: jules@hongkongconfidential.net Webpage: www.hongkongconfidential.net Network: https://www.auscastnetwork.com/home/hong-kong-confidential Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hongkongconfidential/ Twitter: www.twitter.com/juleshannaford/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hongkongconfidential/ Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, YouTube and anywhere you find your podcasts. Sponsored by Teresa’s Turkish Towels https://hkturkish.com/   Support the show.

She's a four times Paralympian, a Paralympic Bronze medalist in the SB4 100m breaststroke in Rio 2016, and a world record holder in the SB4 50m and 200m breaststroke but amidst all the achievements she has achieved, Theresa Goh is a super down-to-earth person. We talked about the good parts about being an elite athlete and the ugly bits where the public don't usually get to see. She's an inspiration to me before the interview and after hearing her story first-hand, I look up to her even more now. Watch our conversation and follow TG on her social media platforms! Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/theresagohruisi/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wheelie_wonka/