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Jerry returns for an update and starts with audio from BT and Sal about what BT wore when he interviewed Rick Pitino. BT was then called ‘gullible' by Sal and Pete Hoffman. Melissa Start and Cris Collinsworth were talking about the cut on Jayden Daniels' face. Rex Ryan said the Chargers had a bye week having to play the Texans and DeMeco Ryans referenced it after the game. Joe Mixon referenced it when he was smoking cigars after the game.

We watched a lot of bad football this season in the NFL. There were a lot of really bad teams. Betting and fantasy keep us interested in teams and games that are terrible. The poor level of play even spilled into Wild Card weekend. There are a lot of things that contribute to ‘crappier football'. Boomer thinks they're adding another game and teams will have 2 bye weeks and Netflix will be in the mix for the regular season. We then wondered if CBS Sports Network would cut away if one of us was choking on the air. Aly, our makeup artist, has Norovirus and Gio's concerned he is now going to get it. A caller wonders what we thought of the saxophone-only national anthem at the Eagles game. We talked about violinist Itzhak Perlman. Al has a very strange way of saying his name. Jerry returns for an update and starts with audio from BT and Sal about what BT wore when he interviewed Rick Pitino. BT was then called ‘gullible' by Sal and Pete Hoffman. Melissa Start and Cris Collinsworth were talking about the cut on Jayden Daniels' face. Rex Ryan said the Chargers had a bye week having to play the Texans and DeMeco Ryans referenced it after the game. Joe Mixon referenced it when he was smoking cigars after the game. In the final segment of the hour, this is a big game for Sam Darnold's career and wallet.

Hour 1 Wild Card weekend is over and there were a lot of disappointing games. The most disappointing performance from an individual was Justin Herbert and the Steelers were the most disappointing team performance. The Steelers looked ‘leader-less' according to Boomer. The Ravens/Bills is going to be a great matchup of 2 MVP candidates in their prime. In the Packers/Eagles game, cameras caught AJ Brown reading a motivational book while sitting on the bench. That was him sending a message that they were barely using him. He had one catch for 10 yards. Jerry is here for his first update of the day and starts with the sounds of the Commanders beating the Bucs. We heard the Baker Mayfield fumble and the game winning FG. AJ Brown talked about the book he was reading on the sideline. Jordan Love was asked about his struggles, including 3 INTs. Josh Allen had an incredible TD throw on 4th and one. Mike Tomlin talked about the Steelers performance. In the final segment of the hour, the Jets interviewed the Maryland head coach and Boomer had no idea that was happening and doesn't think it's a realistic choice for the Jets. The Jets seem to be waiting for someone still coaching in the playoffs. We talked about the Rooney Rule and whether it works or not. Hour 2 We talked briefly about colleges and universities having a ton of money to pay athletes and yet they are still looking for alumni to donate. Boomer got a letter from Maryland looking for money. We talked about the draft and Boomer doesn't think Shedeur Sanders will agree to go to the Titans or the Browns. That would set him up to be drafted by the Giants to play with Malik Nabers. The dream scenario for Deion would be for him to coach the Raiders and for them to draft Shedeur. There are reports Tom Brady really wants Ben Johnson for the Raiders, but there is no QB there right now. Jerry returns for an update and starts with the sounds of Bucs radio as the Commanders kick the game winning FG. Baker Mayfield had a terrible fumble and Todd Bowles was asked about it. The Eagles beat the Packers but it wasn't pretty and Saquon talked about that. Jalen Hurts was asked about AJ Brown reading a book on the sideline. Boomer wonders how we each ‘find our flow'. George Pickens was asked after the Steelers' loss if he's optimistic going forward and he said, ‘uh, nah'. Kevin O'Connell is preparing to play as if they're playing in Los Angeles. The Patriots hired Mike Vrabel. In the final segment of the hour, former Ranger Sean Avery told the story of playing in a men's hockey league and having to knock a guy off his skates after he was bragging about his fourth goal of the game. He was banned from men's hockey in the state of California. We talked about traffic now that congestion pricing has been put into place. Boomer said businesses seem to be hurting because of it. Hour 3 We watched a lot of bad football this season in the NFL. There were a lot of really bad teams. Betting and fantasy keep us interested in teams and games that are terrible. The poor level of play even spilled into Wild Card weekend. There are a lot of things that contribute to ‘crappier football'. Boomer thinks they're adding another game and teams will have 2 bye weeks and Netflix will be in the mix for the regular season. We then wondered if CBS Sports Network would cut away if one of us was choking on the air. Aly, our makeup artist, has Norovirus and Gio's concerned he is now going to get it. A caller wonders what we thought of the saxophone-only national anthem at the Eagles game. We talked about violinist Itzhak Perlman. Al has a very strange way of saying his name. Jerry returns for an update and starts with audio from BT and Sal about what BT wore when he interviewed Rick Pitino. BT was then called ‘gullible' by Sal and Pete Hoffman. Melissa Start and Cris Collinsworth were talking about the cut on Jayden Daniels' face. Rex Ryan said the Chargers had a bye week having to play the Texans and DeMeco Ryans refe ...

BT are moving all analogue home phone services to their One Digital Voice system and they're looking for blind and partially sighted people to help make the switch as smooth and accessible as possible. If you take part , you'll also receive a £50 Amazon voucher as a thank you. RNIB Connect Radio's Allan Russell spoke to Vicky Hicks, Head of Engagement, for BT's Digital Voice Programme to find out more. If you, or someone you know, would like to get involved, email digital.voice.comms@bt.com #RNIBConnect Image Shows RNIB Logo

(03:00): Brandene i Los Angeles fortsætter. Medvirkende: Sara Gerlach Madsen, journalist bosat i Los Angeles. (17:00): "Klimahysteri af værste skuffe" får nordjysk landmand til at demonstrere med sin traktor i Aalborg. Medvirkende: Thorbjørn Carlo Thomsen, kvægbonde fra Sindal, som skal ud at demonstrere i Aalborg. (31:00): Jotam Confino kritiserer Politikens dækning af hans retssag. Medvirkende: Jotam Confino, mellemøstkorrespondent for BT. (45:00): DBU Jylland siger nej til kønsanbefalinger. Medvirkende: Nicklas Degn, sportsjournalist på RADIO IIII. Værter: Kasper Harboe & Mathias HarboeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Asian markets track Wall Street losses after blockbuster US jobs report; New Russian oil sanctions send oil prices up and Asian refiners scrambling; Chinese trade surplus soars to US$1 trillion on pre-Trump exports. Synopsis: Market Focus Daily is a closing bell roundup by The Business Times that looks at the day’s market movements and news from Singapore and the region. Written and hosted by: Emily Liu (emilyliu@sph.com.sg) Recording engineer: Chai Pei Chieh Produced and edited by: Claressa Monteiro Produced by: BT Podcasts, The Business Times, SPH Media --- Follow Market Focus Daily and rate us on: Channel: bt.sg/btmktfocus Amazon: bt.sg/mfam Apple Podcasts: bt.sg/mfap Spotify: bt.sg/mfsp YouTube Music: bt.sg/mfyt Website: bt.sg/mktfocus Feedback to: btpodcasts@sph.com.sg Do note: This podcast is meant to provide general information only. SPH Media accepts no liability for loss arising from any reliance on the podcast or use of third party’s products and services. Please consult professional advisors for independent advice. Discover more BT podcast series: BT Money Hacks at: bt.sg/btmoneyhacks BT Correspondents at: bt.sg/btcobt BT Podcasts at: bt.sg/podcasts BT Branded Podcasts at: bt.sg/brpod BT Lens On: bt.sg/btlensonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

US sanctions on Russian oil producers, California wildfires, and significant updates from Asia-Pacific nations. Singapore faces heavy rainfall due to the monsoon surge. Synopsis: A round up of global headlines to start your day by The Business Times. Written by: Howie Lim / Claressa Monteiro (claremb@sph.com.sg) Produced and edited by: Claressa Monteiro Produced by: BT Podcasts, The Business Times, SPH Media --- Follow Lens On Daily and rate us on: Channel: bt.sg/btlenson Amazon: bt.sg/lensam Apple Podcasts: bt.sg/lensap Spotify: bt.sg/lenssp YouTube Music: bt.sg/lensyt Website: bt.sg/lenson Feedback to: btpodcasts@sph.com.sg Do note: This podcast is meant to provide general information only. SPH Media accepts no liability for loss arising from any reliance on the podcast or use of third party’s products and services. Please consult professional advisors for independent advice. Discover more BT podcast series: BT Mark To Market at: bt.sg/btmark2mkt WealthBT at: bt.sg/btpropertybt PropertyBT at: bt.sg/btmktfocus BT Money Hacks at: bt.sg/btmoneyhacks BT Market Focus at: bt.sg/btmktfocus BT Podcasts at: bt.sg/podcasts BT Branded Podcasts at: bt.sg/brpod BT Lens On: bt.sg/btlenson See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Digital trading platforms have transformed investing. And with the online brokerages and share trading platforms sector heating up, how will we know we’re picking the right one and not just falling for anything? Correspondent Howie Lim speaks to Philip Waters, head of Asia Pacific and Emerging Markets at OANDA to find out. Synopsis: Every Monday, The Business Times breaks down useful financial tips. Highlights: 01:13 How 2024 played out and what to expect in 2025 04:02 The election which impacts all 09:04 Navigating the crowded online space 12:05 The advice people just won’t take! --- Send us your questions, thoughts, story ideas, and feedback to btpodcasts@sph.com.sg. --- Written and hosted by: Howie Lim (howielim@sph.com.sg) With Philip Waters, head of Asia Pacific and Emerging Markets, OANDA Edited by: Howie Lim & Claressa Monteiro Produced by: Howie Lim Engineered by: Chai Pei Chieh A podcast by BT Podcasts, The Business Times, SPH Media --- Follow BT Money Hacks podcasts every Monday: Channel: bt.sg/btmoneyhacks Amazon: bt.sg/mham Apple Podcasts: bt.sg/oeXe Spotify: bt.sg/oeGN YouTube Music: bt.sg/mhyt Website: bt.sg/moneyhacks Do note: This podcast is meant to provide general information only. SPH Media accepts no liability for loss arising from any reliance on the podcast or use of third party’s products and services. Please consult professional advisors for independent advice. Discover more BT podcast series: BT Correspondents: bt.sg/btcobt BT Market Focus at: bt.sg/btmktfocus BT Podcasts at: bt.sg/pcOM BT Branded Podcasts at: bt.sg/brpod BT Lens On: bt.sg/btlensonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Digital trading platforms have transformed investing. And with the online brokerages and share trading platforms sector heating up, how will we know we’re picking the right one and not just falling for anything? Correspondent Howie Lim speaks to Philip Waters, head of Asia Pacific and Emerging Markets at OANDA to find out. Synopsis: Every Monday, The Business Times breaks down useful financial tips. Highlights: 01:13 How 2024 played out and what to expect in 2025 04:02 The election which impacts all 09:04 Navigating the crowded online space 12:05 The advice people just won’t take! --- Send us your questions, thoughts, story ideas, and feedback to btpodcasts@sph.com.sg. --- Written and hosted by: Howie Lim (howielim@sph.com.sg) With Philip Waters, head of Asia Pacific and Emerging Markets, OANDA Edited by: Howie Lim & Claressa Monteiro Produced by: Howie Lim Engineered by: Chai Pei Chieh A podcast by BT Podcasts, The Business Times, SPH Media --- Follow BT Money Hacks podcasts every Monday: Channel: bt.sg/btmoneyhacks Amazon: bt.sg/mham Apple Podcasts: bt.sg/oeXe Spotify: bt.sg/oeGN YouTube Music: bt.sg/mhyt Website: bt.sg/moneyhacks Do note: This podcast is meant to provide general information only. SPH Media accepts no liability for loss arising from any reliance on the podcast or use of third party’s products and services. Please consult professional advisors for independent advice. Discover more BT podcast series: BT Correspondents: bt.sg/btcobt BT Market Focus at: bt.sg/btmktfocus BT Podcasts at: bt.sg/pcOM BT Branded Podcasts at: bt.sg/brpod BT Lens On: bt.sg/btlensonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

 - Ô nhiễm không khí Hà Nội và một số tỉnh thành phía Bắc đã liên tục được cảnh báo những ngày gần đây. Để khắc phục tình trạng này, tại chuyên đề giám sát tối cao của Quốc hội trong năm 2025 về việc: “Thực hiện chính sách, pháp luật về bảo vệ môi trường kể từ khi Luật Bảo vệ môi trường năm 2020 có hiệu lực thi hành", Ủy ban Thường vụ quốc hội đề nghị sau giám sát phải xử lý dứt điểm các điểm nóng về môi trường tại các địa phương. Theo dự kiến chương trình, thời gian giám sát tại địa phương dự kiến từ cuối tháng 6 đến trước ngày 31-7. Đoàn giám sát sẽ tổ chức 4 đoàn công tác giám sát trực tiếp tại 15 địa phương, trong đó có Hà Nội. Theo Thứ trưởng Bộ Tài nguyên và Môi trường Lê Công Thành, về vấn đề ô nhiễm không khí ở Hà Nội, Chính phủ và UBND TP Hà Nội đã có giải pháp, nhưng vấn đề là cần được giám sát như thế nào. Chủ đề : hà nội, ô nhiễm, không khí

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On this week's show we cover the Home Theater announcements that we found interesting. It's not an exhaustive list of what was shown but things we wanted to share with you. We also read your email and take a look at the week's news. News: Disney to Merge Hulu + Live TV With Fubo, Taking on YouTube TV and Ending Venu Lawsuit RadioShack Returns To U.S. As Product Brand Roku tallies 90 million streaming households at start of 2025 Other: Samsung and Google's Eclipsa Audio is here to take on Dolby Atmos CES 2025 Up until now, CES has primarily showcased laptops, gaming, TVs, and smart home technology, excelling in these traditional areas. However, this year's event has shifted its focus to include some emerging, trendier categories. We are seeing AI announcements across the board and numerous innovative concepts aimed at making augmented reality more accessible. On this week's show we cover the Home Theater announcements that we found interesting. It's not an exhaustive list of what was shown but things we wanted to share with you. Next week, since we record before CES closes, we'll look at products that won awards as well as any announcements you may have found interesting as shared with us. RCA introduces two new NEXTGEN TV models in 55" and 65" sizes -  The 65” RCA NEXTGEN TV up to 1500 nits of peak brightness, 664-zone Mini-LED QLED, suggested retail price of $949.99.  The 55” RCA NEXTGEN TV up to 1500 nits of peak brightness, 240-zone Mini-LED QLED suggested retail price of $699.99.  New for 2025 is the attractive RCA ANTD8E, an amplified, multi-directional indoor antenna covered in a high-tech fabric with a diamond shape design. Equipped with SMARTBOOST advanced technology and dual-stage amplification and built-in 4G/LTE/5G filter to improve reception, the ANTD8E can be positioned on its included stand or mounted on a wall and includes nine feet of coaxial cable to connect to the TV at a suggested retail price of $59.99. A full line-up of RCA Outdoor Televisions is also planned in a range of screen sizes and price points, with a “spirit of wilderness” and Mossy Oak camouflage design. Built with a sleek, modern design in a weatherproof and durable dust-free case, RCA Outdoor TVs are designed to work in extreme temperatures – from minus 22 degrees to 122 degrees Fahrenheit. Our Outdoor RCA line includes an exceptionally bright 2000 nit display for crystal-clear viewing even in bright sunlight. Full Press Release RCA Outdoor TV  43-inch ($3,999, suggested retail price), 55-inch ($4,999, suggested retail price)  65-inch ($5,999, suggested retail price) 75-inch ($7,999, suggested retail price). Google Home hubs now work locally with Matter This week, Google announced the integration of Home Runtime into its Google Home hubs, allowing for full local control of Matter devices. With this update, Google Nest hubs, speakers, Chromecasts, Google TV devices running Android 14, and certain LG TVs can now connect to and manage Matter devices locally. This change enhances reliability, privacy, and reduces latency for users controlling their devices at home. Notably, even without internet access, Google Assistant will still be able to operate functions like turning on lights, marking a significant shift from the platform's previous reliance on cloud connectivity. Google Blog Post TCL's 2025 mini-LED TVs for 2025 The Super High Energy mini-LED chip may increase brightness by 53% TCL has made enhancements to its mini-LED backlight design that will result in less blooming or “halo” artifacts where light areas seep into dark areas – a 67% reduction, according to the company. 50- to 98-inch screen sizes, coming to the US in early 2025 Pricing for TCL's QM6K Series is as follows: 50-inch: $749.99  55-inch: $799.99  65-inch $999.99 75-inch: $1,299.99  85-inch: $1,999.99 98-inch: $3,499.99 The 65, 75 and 85-inch QM6K models are available now for preorder at TCL's website. More information from TCL LG G5, C5 and M5 OLED TV LG also announced AI-based features that seek to improve picture, audio and the overall user experience. LG is officially unveiling the LG G5 OLED, the C5 OLED and M5 OLED along with lots of AI upgrades, Here's what we know so far. The G5 will be available in the following sizes: 48, 55, 65, 77, 83 and 97 inches. The M5 is essentially a G5 with wireless connectivity. All of the TV's inputs are located on a separate box (dubbed the Zero Connect Box on the LG M4) which then wirelessly transmits audio and video to the M5's OLED display. The C4 will be available in 42-, 48-, 55-, 65-, 77- and 83-inch models. Full Press Release HDMI 2.2 Announced HDMI 2.2 has been announced at CES 2025. The new specification comes with 96Gbps bandwidth — double what you get with HDMI 2.1. It will be available in a new Ultra96 HDMI Cable. It features next-gen HDMI Fixed Rate Link tech to provide “optimal audio and video.” More impressively, it enables 4K resolution with up to 480 frames per second (fps), and up to 12K at 120 fps. Full Press Release HISENSE MARKS NEW ERA OF DISPLAY INNOVATION WITH ITS FIRST CONSUMER MICROLED AT CES 2025 Hisense unveiled the 136MX MicroLED, the brand's first consumer-ready MicroLED display. This launch marks a pivotal milestone in making cutting-edge display technology more accessible to households, catering to the growing demand for larger, more immersive screens without compromising durability or long-term performance. By eliminating traditional backlight limitations, 136MX delivers precise contrast, lifelike colors, and a viewing experience that sets a new standard for the industry. By combining MicroLED display technology with its R&D expertise, Hisense is once again redefining the possibilities of home entertainment. Powered by Hisense's flagship Hi-View AI Engine X chipset, the 136MX optimizes every frame with its AI-based algorithms, enabling precise color conversion, dynamic 3D color management, and rich display details. Black nanocrystals further enhance performance by reducing reflectivity to ensure exceptional clarity even in well-lit spaces. With brightness levels reaching up to 10,000 nits and a color gamut covering 95% of the BT.2020 color space, Hisense's 136MX delivers vivid, true-to-life colors, setting a new benchmark for home entertainment displays. Full Press Release Technics launched the EAH-AZ100 Wireless Noise Cancelling Earbuds Reference Class True Wireless Earbuds with Dolby Atmos and noise cancelling, The AZ100 earbuds feature, reference-quality high-resolution audio; advanced, industry-leading noise cancellation; and improved JustMyVoice™ technology to keep calls clear. Connects to 3 devices simultaneously. Launching in sleek Silver and Black with its signature stylish ergonomic design, Technics EAH-AZ100 Earbuds will be available for purchase online at Technics.com and at trusted retailers starting today, January 7, with a suggested retail price of $299.99. More info TiVo OS Will Be Launching in the U.S. Market With Sharp TiVo announced that it will be entering the U.S. television market with Sharp Home Electronics Company of America. The Sharp Smart TV Powered by TiVo will be the first television in the series to be made available to American consumers, as soon as February 2025. Boasting a beautiful Ultra High Definition and High Dynamic Range 55” QLED screen, plus Dolby Atmos®, and 3 HDMI ports, it will be a smart TV that reinforces Sharp's reputation for quality. In Europe, TiVo last year launched a range of Sharp models in the UK starting at the equivalent of $372 USD. Sharp's consumer website currently lists four TiVo-powered TV models/screen sizes (43 inches, 50 inches, 55 inches and 70 inches). Sharp also offers TVs powered by other platforms, including operating systems from Roku and Google. Nothing Earth Shattering in the way of Hardware from Sony Sony's press conference did not showcase exciting new hardware announcements. Instead, the emphasis was primarily on the entertainment aspect of their business. Valerion Unveils VisionMaster Max Valerion debuted their VisionMaster MAX, a cinematic-grade home theater projector. Its Kickstarter project raised over $10.7 million and became the highest-funded projector in crowdfunding history.  Featuring the OpticFlex Lens System for customizable viewing. The specifications include: 3000 ISO lumens, a 15,000:1 contrast ratio, and a 110% Rec. 2020 color gamut. The VisionMaster MAX promises stunning image quality and a theater-like experience, projecting up to 300 inches. Enhanced with Dolby Vision, IMAX Enhanced, and other advanced features, this flagship model sets a new standard for home entertainment technology. Additionally, its innovative external lens offers increased versatility, further enhancing the viewing experience. The VisionMaster Series is now available for global pre-order on Valerion's website, with deliveries starting February 2025. VisionMaster Max $3,999 USD, VisionMaster Pro2 & Pro $2,499 USD, and VisionMaster Plus2 & Plus $1,499 USD Samsung Brings Samsung Vision AI to Its Widest Lineup Yet Samsung is ushering in a new era of AI-driven screen technology, with Samsung Vision AI features now integrated across its most comprehensive lineup ever — including Neo QLED, OLED and QLED, and The Frame models. This expansion underscores Samsung's commitment to bringing intelligent, adaptive screens to more users, redefining what's possible in home entertainment and smart living. At the forefront of this innovation is the Neo QLED 8K QN990F, Samsung's most advanced TV to date, designed to deliver unparalleled performance, sleek design and smarter AI-driven experiences. Powered by the latest NQ8 AI Gen3 Processor, the TV leverages a suite of on-device AI features to enhance picture quality, sound clarity and overall viewing experience: 8K AI Upscaling Pro: Elevates lower-resolution content up to stunning 8K quality, ensuring incredible detail and clarity in every frame. Auto HDR Remastering Pro: Analyzes content frame by frame, applying scene-adaptive color expansion for lifelike visuals and vibrant colors, even in dark scenes. Adaptive Sound Pro: Uses AI to separate and optimize sound components like speech, music and sound effects, delivering clear, balanced audio. Color Booster Pro: Enriches color expression with AI-driven scene analysis and enhanced  image processing for each frame. AI Mode: Adaptively optimizes picture and sound leveraging AI-based content recognition  and TV area analysis for an optimal viewing experience in any setting. Samsung also unveiled The Premiere 5, the industry's first interactive triple-laser ultra-short-throw (UST) projector. Designed to redefine home entertainment, The Premiere 5 introduces an interactive touch feature, allowing users to engage directly with the screen. This innovation seamlessly combines high-quality projection with versatile functionality, featuring Samsung LightWARP technology to project images onto everyday objects for creative and immersive experiences. No Specs are available as this may be one of those items that never sees the light of day. Full Press Release  Displace TV: The World's First Truly Wireless 4K TVs with All-in-One Entertainment and Productivity Hubs Displace is bringing all-in-one entertainment and productivity hubs that go beyond the traditional TV experience. Both models offer a sleek, cable-free design, and revolutionary new features powered by Displace OS, an all-new AI Agent-driven operating system that will redefine how Displace users interact with their TVs and perform tasks easier than ever before. These next-generation 4K TVs are powered by two long-lasting, rechargeable Li-ion batteries, ensuring a truly wireless experience that eliminates the clutter of cords and cables. Consumers can either mount the TV on a wall in just 10 seconds without tools or drilling or place it on a table using the all-new concealed push-to-pop legs. All the Displace TV screens are OLED. Displace Pro and Basic are both offered in 55-inch and 27-inch models. Exclusively during CES, all Displace models will be available for pre-order for $1,000 off the original price. During CES, Pro models can be ordered in 55-inch for $4,999 or 27-inch for $2,999, while the Basic models will be available in 55-inch for $2,499 or 27-inch for $1,499. All models are available for pre-order with shipping expected to begin March 28, 2025. Full Press Release 

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It's time for a new episode of “Shootin' The Shiznit.” Brian Tramel and Lance LeVine bring you the Cool Kids Countdown: “The WTF News Desk.” Lance and BT bring you an insider's perspective to the bizarre happenings in the squared circle and the octagon. From outlandish storylines to mind-bending maneuvers, The WTF News Desk is your go-to source for all things unconventional in the fight world. Check out our LINK OF ALL LINKS to watch the show and listen to our podcasts! https://linktr.ee/STSPOD Do you want these shows as soon as they are recorded? Join Patreon!! Subscribe now ! https://www.patreon.com/shootintheshiznit Vitality Chiropractic in Jonesboro and Newport, Arkansas, is a trusted haven for individuals seeking comprehensive chiropractic care. With a dedicated team of professionals, they prioritize spinal health and overall well-being. If you're looking for personalized and effective chiropractic services, reach out to them at (870) 523-2225 to experience their commitment to enhancing your health and vitality. Meal prep in Northeast Arkansas! 15% Off with our code STSPODCLUB at bare870.com. That's 15% off and use our code STSPODCLUB Go to bare870.com Trust Bare for your meal prep needs in Northeast Arkansas. Eat Better. Live Better. Paypal LINK ! https://py.pl/15aeX0 Link of all links: https://linktr.ee/STSPOD Search “Cool Kids Wrestling & MMA Talk” on Facebook to join us ! Search “Shooting The Shiznit” to LIKE the STSPOD FB page !! Follow Lance LeVine on Twitter: @chocolatierLL Sponsored by Spunklube is the perfect blend of water and silicone. It is an all purpose personal lubricant that can be used for any occasion. You will love the natural feeling and look of it. It is safe for sensitive skin. Go to spunklube DOT com and tell them shootin the shiznit sent you ! Follow them on Twitter @SpunkLube Have you used the UBER Eats app? If not, you can download it & get $7 off your first order by using this code: eats-briant24790ue Did you love this week's episode?? Was it worth a $1 ? $2? $100?? Donate to STS by using the Cash app and sending $$$$ to: $BTSTS In partnership with Championship Wrestling on CW30! Every Saturday at Noon on YouTube. Follow them on Twitter: @cw30wrestling Do you wanna be a pro wrestler ? Go to championshipwrestlingmemphis.com and apply for classes that start soon !! LIVE MEMPHIS WRESTLING: EVENTS: https://tinyurl.com/Upcoming-Live-Events

Asian markets drift lower as US jobs data looms; Singapore’s STI tumbles 1.7% with bank shares falling; Ultraman toymaker Bloks surges after blockbuster Hong Kong IPO; TSMC’s sales beat estimates in a boost for AI’s outlook in 2025. Synopsis: Market Focus Daily is a closing bell roundup by The Business Times that looks at the day’s market movements and news from Singapore and the region. Written and hosted by: Emily Liu (emilyliu@sph.com.sg) Recording engineer: Chai Pei Chieh Produced and edited by: Claressa Monteiro Produced by: BT Podcasts, The Business Times, SPH Media --- Follow Market Focus Daily and rate us on: Channel: bt.sg/btmktfocus Amazon: bt.sg/mfam Apple Podcasts: bt.sg/mfap Spotify: bt.sg/mfsp YouTube Music: bt.sg/mfyt Website: bt.sg/mktfocus Feedback to: btpodcasts@sph.com.sg Do note: This podcast is meant to provide general information only. SPH Media accepts no liability for loss arising from any reliance on the podcast or use of third party’s products and services. Please consult professional advisors for independent advice. Discover more BT podcast series: BT Money Hacks at: bt.sg/btmoneyhacks BT Correspondents at: bt.sg/btcobt BT Podcasts at: bt.sg/podcasts BT Branded Podcasts at: bt.sg/brpod BT Lens On: bt.sg/btlensonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Trump's sentencing, Los Angeles wildfires, anti-Semitic attacks in Sydney, Johor's economic growth and heightened security in Singapore. Synopsis: A round up of global headlines to start your day by The Business Times. Written by: Howie Lim / Claressa Monteiro (claremb@sph.com.sg) Produced and edited by: Claressa Monteiro Produced by: BT Podcasts, The Business Times, SPH Media --- Follow Lens On Daily and rate us on: Channel: bt.sg/btlenson Amazon: bt.sg/lensam Apple Podcasts: bt.sg/lensap Spotify: bt.sg/lenssp YouTube Music: bt.sg/lensyt Website: bt.sg/lenson Feedback to: btpodcasts@sph.com.sg Do note: This podcast is meant to provide general information only. SPH Media accepts no liability for loss arising from any reliance on the podcast or use of third party’s products and services. Please consult professional advisors for independent advice. Discover more BT podcast series: BT Mark To Market at: bt.sg/btmark2mkt WealthBT at: bt.sg/btpropertybt PropertyBT at: bt.sg/btmktfocus BT Money Hacks at: bt.sg/btmoneyhacks BT Market Focus at: bt.sg/btmktfocus BT Podcasts at: bt.sg/podcasts BT Branded Podcasts at: bt.sg/brpod BT Lens On: bt.sg/btlenson See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

BT chooses which WWE Superstar he will be dressing up as. Hoff get's seconds.

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On this week's episode of Deep & Lonely on the Houndsman XP Podcast Network, join host Bryce Matthews as he makes his way over to the PKC Black & Tan Days event in Monticello, IN. Bryce is joined by Billy Anderson and Cavin Collins to discuss why they choose to hunt Black & Tan Coonhounds and what made one of them switch over to the Treeing Walker Coonhound after years of devotion to the B&T breed. The three have a great time catching up with each other and cover everything from registry rules to stubborn cliques within breeds. As you sit back and enjoy this episode ask yourself one question……IS IT GOOD TO YA?!?Release Date: 06-16-23 ►Get Your Houndsman XP Info, Gear & More Here!www.HoundsmanXP.com►Become a Patron of Houndsman XP! Check out our Tailgate Talks.|

 - Với chính sách tiền tệ và tỷ giá ổn định, hợp lý, Việt Nam đã kiểm soát được lạm phát ở mức dưới 4% suốt một thập kỷ. Năm 2025, lạm phát trung bình sẽ tiếp tục được kiểm soát, tuy nhiên, nhiều dự báo cho thấy, giá cả hàng hóa vẫn trong xu hướng đi lên, có thể gia tăng áp lực lên lạm phát. Đây là thông tin đáng chú ý tại Hội thảo Diễn biến thị trường, giá cả ở Việt Nam năm 2024 và dự báo 2025 do Học viện Tài chính phối hợp với Cục Quản lý giá, Bộ Tài chính tổ chức sáng nay (9/1) tại Hà Nội. Chủ đề : chủ quan, lạm phát

- Sáng nay (9/1), Bộ Tư lệnh Vùng 3 Hải quân tổ chức gặp mặt, tiễn đoàn công tác và phóng viên các cơ quan báo chí chuẩn bị lên đường thăm và chúc Tết nhân dân, cán bộ, chiến sĩ trên đảo Cồn Cỏ, tỉnh Quảng Trị và đảo Lý Sơn, tỉnh Quảng Ngãi. Chủ đề : quà tết, đến đảo

 - Tối 9/1, tại xã Pa Tần, huyện Sìn Hồ, tỉnh Lai Châu, Bộ Tư lệnh Bộ đội Biên phòng phối hợp với Tỉnh ủy, UBND tỉnh Lai Châu tổ chức Chương trình “Xuân Biên phòng ấm lòng Dân bản” năm 2025. Chủ tịch nước Lương Cường dự và phát biểu tại chương trình. Cùng dự có Đại tướng Phan Văn Giang, Ủy viên Bộ chính trị, Bộ trưởng Bộ Quốc phòng; Phó Thủ tướng Chính phủ Hồ Đức Phớc cùng lãnh đạo các ban, bộ, ngành, đoàn thể Trung ương và tỉnh Lai Châu. Chủ đề : chủ tịch nước, lương cường

- Ô nhiễm không khí Hà Nội và một số tỉnh thành phía Bắc đã liên tục được cảnh báo những ngày gần đây. Để khắc phục tình trạng này, tại chuyên đề giám sát tối cao của Quốc hội trong năm 2025 về "Việc thực hiện chính sách, pháp luật về bảo vệ môi trường kể từ khi Luật Bảo vệ môi trường năm 2020 có hiệu lực thi hành", Ủy ban Thường vụ quốc hội đề nghị sau giám sát phải xử lý dứt điểm các điểm nóng về môi trường tại các địa phương. Theo dự kiến chương trình, thời gian giám sát tại địa phương dự kiến từ cuối tháng 6 đến trước ngày 31-7. Đoàn giám sát sẽ tổ chức 4 đoàn công tác giám sát trực tiếp tại 15 địa phương, gồm 5 thành phố: Hà Nội, TP HCM, Đà Nẵng, Cần Thơ, Hải Phòng và 10 tỉnh: Bình Dương, Long An, Trà Vinh, Thái Nguyên, Quảng Ninh, Bắc Ninh, Thanh Hóa, Quảng Ngãi, Bình Thuận, Lâm Đồng. Theo Thứ trưởng Bộ Tài nguyên và Môi trường Lê Công Thành, về vấn đề ô nhiễm không khí ở Hà Nội, Chính phủ và UBND TP Hà Nội cũng đã có giải pháp, nhưng đây là vấn đề cần được giám sát. Chủ đề : ô nhiễm, không khí

Trump's interest in Greenland, global bond market volatility, Taiwan-China tensions, Indonesia-Qatar housing agreement and Singapore's new workplace discrimination bill. Synopsis: A round up of global headlines to start your day by The Business Times. Written by: Howie Lim / Claressa Monteiro (claremb@sph.com.sg) Recording engineer: Joann Chai Pei Chieh Produced and edited by: Claressa Monteiro Produced by: BT Podcasts, The Business Times, SPH Media --- Follow Lens On Daily and rate us on: Channel: bt.sg/btlenson Amazon: bt.sg/lensam Apple Podcasts: bt.sg/lensap Spotify: bt.sg/lenssp YouTube Music: bt.sg/lensyt Website: bt.sg/lenson Feedback to: btpodcasts@sph.com.sg Do note: This podcast is meant to provide general information only. SPH Media accepts no liability for loss arising from any reliance on the podcast or use of third party’s products and services. Please consult professional advisors for independent advice. Discover more BT podcast series: BT Mark To Market at: bt.sg/btmark2mkt WealthBT at: bt.sg/btpropertybt PropertyBT at: bt.sg/btmktfocus BT Money Hacks at: bt.sg/btmoneyhacks BT Market Focus at: bt.sg/btmktfocus BT Podcasts at: bt.sg/podcasts BT Branded Podcasts at: bt.sg/brpod BT Lens On: bt.sg/btlenson See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Asian markets drop as trades fret over US inflation, rates outlook; Pound tumbles to one-year low; China announces record issuance in Hong Kong to prop up currency; Chinese consumer inflation falls for fourth straight month; Hyundai Motor Group to invest record 24.3 trillion won in South Korea this year. Synopsis: Market Focus Daily is a closing bell roundup by The Business Times that looks at the day’s market movements and news from Singapore and the region. Written and hosted by: Emily Liu (emilyliu@sph.com.sg) Recording engineer: Chai Pei Chieh Produced and edited by: Claressa Monteiro Produced by: BT Podcasts, The Business Times, SPH Media --- Follow Market Focus Daily and rate us on: Channel: bt.sg/btmktfocus Amazon: bt.sg/mfam Apple Podcasts: bt.sg/mfap Spotify: bt.sg/mfsp YouTube Music: bt.sg/mfyt Website: bt.sg/mktfocus Feedback to: btpodcasts@sph.com.sg Do note: This podcast is meant to provide general information only. SPH Media accepts no liability for loss arising from any reliance on the podcast or use of third party’s products and services. Please consult professional advisors for independent advice. Discover more BT podcast series: BT Money Hacks at: bt.sg/btmoneyhacks BT Correspondents at: bt.sg/btcobt BT Podcasts at: bt.sg/podcasts BT Branded Podcasts at: bt.sg/brpod BT Lens On: bt.sg/btlensonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

"5 Minute Time Limit" is a dynamic wrestling podcast where each guest—whether they're wrestlers, industry insiders, or fans—gets exactly 5 minutes to share their thoughts, stories, or hot takes. The strict time limit keeps conversations fast-paced, intense, and to the point, creating an exciting atmosphere where every second counts. Whether it's discussing major wrestling events, feuds, or behind-the-scenes stories, guests have to make their impact before the clock runs out. The format pushes for high-energy, no-fluff discussions, making it a must-listen for wrestling fans who crave concise, insightful commentary. On the second episode BT was joined by Jammie War, Neil Taylor, fan voicemail, Stacy Jane, Duchess of New Jersey and Lance LeVine. Check out our LINK OF ALL LINKS to watch the show and listen to our podcasts! https://linktr.ee/STSPOD Do you want these shows as soon as they are recorded? Join Patreon!!  Subscribe now ! https://www.patreon.com/shootintheshiznit Vitality Chiropractic in Jonesboro and Newport, Arkansas, is a trusted haven for individuals seeking comprehensive chiropractic care. With a dedicated team of professionals, they prioritize spinal health and overall well-being. If you're looking for personalized and effective chiropractic services, reach out to them at (870) 523-2225 to experience their commitment to enhancing your health and vitality. Meal prep in Northeast Arkansas! 15% Off with our code STSPODCLUB at bare870.com. That's 15% off and use our code STSPODCLUB Go to bare870.com Trust Bare for your meal prep needs in Northeast Arkansas. Eat Better. Live Better. Paypal LINK ! https://py.pl/15aeX0 Link of all links: https://linktr.ee/STSPOD Search “Cool Kids Wrestling & MMA Talk” on Facebook to join us ! Search “Shooting The Shiznit” to LIKE the STSPOD FB page !! Follow Lance LeVine on Twitter: @chocolatierLL Sponsored by Spunklube is the perfect blend of water and silicone. It is an all purpose personal lubricant that can be used for any occasion. You will love the natural feeling and look of it. It is safe for sensitive skin. Go to spunklube DOT com and tell them shootin the shiznit sent you ! Follow them on Twitter @SpunkLube Have you used the UBER Eats app? If not, you can download it & get $7 off your first order by using this code: eats-briant24790ue Did you love this week's episode?? Was it worth a $1 ? $2? $100?? Donate to STS by using the Cash app and sending $$$$ to: $BTSTS In partnership with Championship Wrestling on CW30! Every Saturday at Noon on YouTube. Follow them on Twitter: @cw30wrestling Do you wanna be a pro wrestler ? Go to championshipwrestlingmemphis.com and apply for classes that start soon !! LIVE MEMPHIS WRESTLING: EVENTS: https://tinyurl.com/Upcoming-Live-Events

Over 1,000 students from across the island of Ireland will flood through the doors of the RDS in Dublin to participate in the 61st Young Scientist & Technology Exhibition, which represents the 25th year that BT Ireland has stewarded the exhibition. The participants will begin their unforgettable BTYSTE experience this morning, setting up their projects and preparing for the first round of judging, which will be carried out by 85 leading experts from Ireland's science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) academic and industry sectors. The first round of judging will be completed after the official opening of the exhibition this afternoon by President of Ireland, Michael D. Higgins. A supporter of the BTYSTE for many years, President Higgins' address to students and their teachers this afternoon will be particularly momentous as it will be his last in office. Throughout President Higgins' terms in office, his championing of the exhibition has inspired many young people to explore their passion for STEM by entering the BTYSTE. The opening ceremony will be streamed live from 2pm on the BTYSTE website and on Facebook Live. The 2025 BT Ireland Executive Leaders Forum As the RDS Dublin fills up with many young people seeking to change the world for the better, BT Ireland, in partnership with Business in the Community Ireland (BITC) and the American Chamber (AmCham), will hold an exclusive Executive Leaders Forum for business leaders this morning. This year's forum will focus on the importance of collaboration for expanding Ireland's STEM pipeline. Broadcaster Áine Kerr will MC today's Forum, and speakers will include Managing Director of BT Ireland, Shay Walsh, as well as 2024 BTYSTE winner Seán O'Sullivan, who will talk about the importance of fostering STEM interest from an early age. Companies represented at the event's panels include IDA Ireland, American Chamber, Analog Devices, NOW Group, Fidelity Ireland, and ServiceNow. Speaking ahead of the first day of the exhibition today, Mari Cahalane, Head of the BTYSTE said: "This year marks 25 years since BT Ireland became custodian of the Young Scientist & Technology Exhibition and is an extremely special occasion for me as I have been privileged be part of the organisational proceedings on behalf of BT Ireland since then. Since its inception in the 1960s, the exhibition epitomises BT Ireland's purpose, 'connect for good', setting many of the brightest young minds that this country has ever seen on the path to change the world, and we could not be prouder to help evolve this incredible event in the last twenty-five years. "BT Ireland's team of almost 180 volunteers will be ensuring that the participants and their teachers will enjoy a BTYSTE experience this year that they will never forget. I would like to thank them for all their hard work, and to our esteemed guest, President Higgins, for his unwavering support over the years, helping us and all involved keep the BTYSTE prominently on the national agenda each year." The BTYSTE opens to the public from Thursday, January 09 to Saturday, January 11, with a full programme of fantastic events and special acts for everyone to enjoy, including all student projects being on display throughout. Additionally, over 60 brilliant stands from the exhibition's partners, including the Department of Education,Analog Devices, Amgen, RTE, Stripe, BT, Re-turn, Permanent TSB, will be on display in the RDS. Tickets to the BTYSTE can be purchased at https://ticketing.btyoungscientist.com or at the venue. Visitors can plan their visit to the RDS in advance by downloading the?free?BT Young Scientist & Technology Exhibition app, available on Android and Apple devices. Full of helpful information, the app includes an exhibition map, a search tool for student projects and exhibitors, a schedule of events, as well as links to the BTYSTE social networks for live updates throughout the event. For more information on the exhibition, please visit th...

If you're going to have a spiritually potent life, you have to learn how to hear from God. In this 1 Question deep-dive, BT shares his method for hearing from God: a daily repetition of scripture, prayer, and making space to listen. It takes persistence and perseverance, but when you learn how to hear from God for yourself, your aggressive life will hit new strides.  - Create your own custom Bible reading plan at bibleplan.org. - Read scripture along with Brian on the free spiritual fitness app, Crossroads Anywhere. - For an easy introduction to spending time with God, try Brian's new 60-day devotional for men.

The team dives deep into the eerie mysteries surrounding Death Valley. From the restless spirit of rock star Gram Parsons haunting Joshua Tree to the strange disappearance of a German family in the unforgiving desert, each story reveals layers of intrigue and speculation. Adding to the mystery is the elusive Yucca Man, a Bigfoot-like creature reportedly seen by military personnel near secretive bases. Together, Brandon, BT, and Lindsy connect these strange tales, exploring the idea that the Mojave Desert is a hotbed for paranormal activity, hidden energies, and possibly even dimensional portals. Whether you're a skeptic or a believer, this episode will make you question what really lies within the vast, desolate landscape of Death Valley.https://join.unrefinedpodcast.comFor recovery assistance :Gram Parson's daughter's Ranch=> https://hickorywindranch.com/Timestamps:00:11 - Introduction to Death Valley mysteries00:28 - Hosts discuss the eerie allure of the Mojave Desert00:58 - Introducing the Death Valley Germans, Gram Parsons, and Yucca Man03:25 - Story of Gram Parsons and his connection to Joshua Tree05:52 - Strange events surrounding Parsons' death and desert cremation08:12 - Hauntings at Joshua Tree Inn's Room 810:33 - Discussion of hauntings and paranormal sightings in Joshua Tree12:53 - Theories on paranormal recordings and “stacked time”15:19 - Introducing the mystery of the Death Valley Germans17:42 - Background of the missing German family20:09 - Theories on why the family vanished in the desert22:22 - Exploring connections to nearby military bases24:47 - Speculations about cults, cartels, and missing remains26:49 - Creepy theories surrounding missing persons in Death Valley29:08 - Introduction to Yucca Man and strange desert creatures31:25 - Eyewitness accounts of giant, hairy creatures with glowing eyes33:52 - Indigenous legends of mysterious beings in the Mojave36:10 - Connections between Bigfoot sightings and Edwards Air Force Base38:25 - “Old Blue Eyes” and military personnel encounters with Yucca Man40:51 - Theories about Bigfoot and portals in the Mojave Desert43:15 - Speculations on Bigfoot as supernatural or ancient beings45:39 - Biblical worldview on paranormal desert entities48:06 - Exploring Death Valley as a paranormal “hotspot”50:32 - Outro and ways for listeners to connect with the Unrefined Podcast

Israel sẽ rút quân khỏi Lebanon theo từng giai đoạn, phù hợp với nghị quyết của Hội đồng Bảo an Liên hợp quốc năm 2006, chấm dứt cuộc xung đột lớn cuối cùng của họ sau hơn một năm giao tranh. Tại Gaza, trong khi các cuộc đàm phán ngừng bắn đang diễn ra và Hamas đề nghị thả 34 con tin thì ở Bờ Tây, ba người Israel đã bị bắn chết trong vụ tấn công xe bus. Cùng lúc, các cuộc không kích của Israel ở Gaza khiến hàng chục người thiệt mạng, làm trầm trọng thêm cuộc khủng hoảng nhân đạo tại đây.

- Trong điều kiện nắng nóng, sóng gió trên biển, nhưng mỗi ngày các đại biểu của Đoàn công tác các tỉnh phía Nam, doanh nghiệp và báo chí trên tàu 526, Bộ Tư lệnh vùng 5 Hải quân ra chúc tết quân và dân tại các đảo Tây Nam của Tổ quốc vẫn được phục vụ 4 bữa ăn (sáng, trưa, chiều và bữa ăn phụ đêm) với những món ăn chế biến đa dạng, đủ chất, thực đơn các bữa trong ngày không trùng nhau. Đó là nhờ công sức và bàn tay khéo léo của tổ phục vụ trên tàu. Chủ đề : Chuyện bếp núc, tàu Hải quân 526

Hour 4- Sal Licata is deciding what to have BT and Hoff dress up as.

From ‘Unkillable' (Subscribe Here): The Jets get the win against the Dolphins to mercifully bring their season to an end, however with the Patriots firing Head Coach Jerod Mayo, the Jets likely have missed out on their top coaching target in Mike Vrabel and BT is here to break it all down, take comments and questions from the viewers, and much more! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

TT Zelenskyy: các đảm bảo an ninh của Kyiv chỉ có hiệu quả nếu Mỹ cung cấp; Nổ súng trên xe buýt, 3 người chết ở Bờ Tây, Israel; Người Afghanistan đến Philippines để xin thị thực định cư Mỹ; Cơ quan Hàn Quốc nhờ cảnh sát giúp tổng thống Yoon; Philippines theo dõi ‘con tàu quái vật' của Trung Quốc

- Bộ Tài chính Syria hôm qua (5/1) cho biết, chính phủ nước này sẽ tăng lương cho nhiều nhân viên khu vực công lên 400% vào tháng tới, sau khi hoàn tất tái cấu trúc hành chính các cơ quan chính phủ, nhằm tăng hiệu quả và trách nhiệm giải trình. Chủ đề : Syria, Tăng lương, Khu vực công

Solid US economic performance and Fed rate cuts provide a strong underpinning for the markets, despite the risks posed by Trump 2.0. BT senior correspondent Ben Paul offers views on how to invest in 2025. Synopsis: Listen to senior correspondent Ben Paul's analysis and insight on market trends and corporate issues in Singapore in this podcast series based on his weekly column in The Business Times. Highlights of the podcast: 02:40 US economic resilience is still surprising forecasters 04:12 Analysts’ target prices point to further gains for S&P 500 08:21 Trump’s victory sparked a rally, so why the nervousness? 12:46 Bet on Singapore banks, Reits, value-unlocking plays --- Send your questions, thoughts, story ideas, and feedback to btpodcasts@sph.com.sg. --- Written and hosted by: Ben Paul (benpaul@sph.com.sg) Edited by: Howie Lim & Claressa Monteiro Produced by: Ben Paul & Howie Lim Engineered by: Chai Pei Chieh A podcast by BT Podcasts, The Business Times, SPH Media --- Follow BT Correspondents: Channel: bt.sg/btcobt Amazon: bt.sg/btcoam Apple Podcasts: bt.sg/btcoap Spotify: bt.sg/btcosp YouTube Music: bt.sg/btcoyt Website: bt.sg/btcorresp Do note: This podcast is meant to provide general information only. SPH Media accepts no liability for loss arising from any reliance on the podcast or use of third party’s products and services. Please consult professional advisors for independent advice. --- Discover more BT podcast series: BT Money Hacks: bt.sg/btmoneyhacks BT Podcasts: bt.sg/pcOM BT Market Focus: bt.sg/btmktfocus BT Branded Podcasts: bt.sg/brpod BT Lens On: bt.sg/btlensonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

- Nhiều chuyên gia kinh tế lạc quan về tăng trưởng GDP của Việt Nam trong năm 2025.- Bộ Tài chính tiếp tục tháo gỡ khó khăn để thị trường trái phiếu doanh nghiệp phục hồi.- Thị trường chứng khoán giao dịch kém tích cực, VN-Index mất tới hơn 15 điểm chỉ trong một phiên giao dịch. Chủ đề : chuyên gia kinh tế, tăng trưởng GDP của Việt Nam, năm 2025

Ông Biden trao tặng Huân chương Tự do Tổng thống cho bà Hillary Clinton và 18 cá nhân khác; Tân lãnh đạo Syria kêu gọi Hoa Kỳ dỡ bỏ lệnh trừng phạt trong chuyến thăm Doha; Moscow: Ukraine mở cuộc tấn công mới ở khu vực Kursk; Người Palestine bị lực lượng Israel bắn chết ở Bờ Tây

Happy New Year! We are officially in the year 2025. I can say that we had a very good 2024 and pray that we will have a just as successful 2025. This is The Beer Is Fundamental Show. This is Episode 139 and we want to welcome you once again to the NeighBeerHood where craft beer is always the talk of the town. We are your hosts, BT aka O-Beer-Wan Kenobi the Jedi Knight of craft beer and Lady T. The beer for this episode is the Not You Too West Coast Double IPA by The Veil Brewing Company. It pours a very hazy light amber and you will get an aroma of tropical fruits like grapefruit and pineapple. It has a nice medium body with the taste of pineapple, orange, and grapefruit. In this episode, we discuss the flux in craft of 2024. We delve into some personal likes and dislikes. In short, we talk about a lot of things. Cheers! Also, don't forget to check out Volume 4 of the Plush Couch Series.

Cách Israel hành xử ở Bờ Tây sẽ có những hệ quả vượt xa khỏi vấn đề số phận của người Palestine. Xem thêm.

It's the final week of the regular season, which means it's the final week of the Perfect Parlay. Sal has taken the lead, Hoff is out, and BT is 25 points away from tying Sal. Who will win?

Hour 3- Vrabel is in house and BT thinks he is the one to lead the Jets next year.

Hour 1- Jets are currently interviewing Mike Vrabel, and BT doesn't wanting leaving the facility.

On the last of the three part Footy Mythbusters series from 2018, BT interrogates Mick Martyn, Leon Davis and Jake King to get to the bottom of some famous footy stories.----We'll be dropping Classic Saturday Rub moments and episodes every Wednesday and Saturday over summer - subscribe to Triple M Footy AFL on the LiSTNR app to get every instalment as it drops!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Follow Monstercat Silk on all platforms - https://monster.cat/silk Follow our playlists: https://ffm.bio/monstercat Tracklist 1. A.M.R - Outer Space [Monstercat Silk] [00:35] 2. BT - k-means clustering (Tor Remix) [Monstercat Silk] [04:36] 3. Faodail - Turning [Monstercat Silk] [07:21] 4. Flexible Fire & Dias Ridge - Through The Inversion [Monstercat Silk] [10:52] 5. Etza - Este [Monstercat Silk] [15:10] 6. Shingo Nakamura & Nina Carr - Underneath [Monstercat Silk] [19:13] 7. rshand - Cityscape [Monstercat Silk] [22:45] 8. Dokho & Not Now Please - Two Lakes [Monstercat Silk] [25:59] 9. Oracle & MØØNE - Tether [Monstercat Silk] [29:44] 10. Sound Quelle - Aklana [Monstercat Silk] [33:43] 11. PROFF - Snowflake [Monstercat Silk] [37:32] 12. BT & Shingo Nakamura - Lifeforce [Monstercat Silk] [44:44] 13. Shingo Nakamura - Blue Planet [Monstercat Silk] [49:25] 14. rshand - Bloom [Monstercat Silk] [53:35] 15. Blood Groove & Kikis x Brandon Mignacca - Let Me Hold You (Cinematic Mix) [Monstercat Silk] [57:30] Thank you for listening to Monstercat Silk Showcase! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the second of the three part Footy Mythbusters series from 2018, BT and Billy Brownless interrogate Guy McKenna, Nick Holland, Simon Beasley and Ray Byrne to get to the bottom of some famous footy stories.----We'll be dropping Classic Saturday Rub moments and episodes every Wednesday and Saturday over summer - subscribe to Triple M Footy AFL on the LiSTNR app to get every instalment as it drops!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Earlier this fall, BT got to check off a bucket list item—appearing as a guest on The Art of Manliness podcast, one of the first, and most successful, podcasts aimed at a male audience. With over a 1,000 episodes under his belt, host Brett McKay has carved out a space that encourages, challenges, and helps men rise. In conversation with Brian, the pairs discuss what makes a man, the long haul of establishing friendships, and what it looks like to be a protector in the 21st century. 

Applications for the 2025 AI Engineer Summit are up, and you can save the date for AIE Singapore in April and AIE World's Fair 2025 in June.Happy new year, and thanks for 100 great episodes! Please let us know what you want to see/hear for the next 100!Full YouTube Episode with Slides/ChartsLike and subscribe and hit that bell to get notifs!Timestamps* 00:00 Welcome to the 100th Episode!* 00:19 Reflecting on the Journey* 00:47 AI Engineering: The Rise and Impact* 03:15 Latent Space Live and AI Conferences* 09:44 The Competitive AI Landscape* 21:45 Synthetic Data and Future Trends* 35:53 Creative Writing with AI* 36:12 Legal and Ethical Issues in AI* 38:18 The Data War: GPU Poor vs. GPU Rich* 39:12 The Rise of GPU Ultra Rich* 40:47 Emerging Trends in AI Models* 45:31 The Multi-Modality War* 01:05:31 The Future of AI Benchmarks* 01:13:17 Pionote and Frontier Models* 01:13:47 Niche Models and Base Models* 01:14:30 State Space Models and RWKB* 01:15:48 Inference Race and Price Wars* 01:22:16 Major AI Themes of the Year* 01:22:48 AI Rewind: January to March* 01:26:42 AI Rewind: April to June* 01:33:12 AI Rewind: July to September* 01:34:59 AI Rewind: October to December* 01:39:53 Year-End Reflections and PredictionsTranscript[00:00:00] Welcome to the 100th Episode![00:00:00] Alessio: Hey everyone, welcome to the Latent Space Podcast. This is Alessio, partner and CTO at Decibel Partners, and I'm joined by my co host Swyx for the 100th time today.[00:00:12] swyx: Yay, um, and we're so glad that, yeah, you know, everyone has, uh, followed us in this journey. How do you feel about it? 100 episodes.[00:00:19] Alessio: Yeah, I know.[00:00:19] Reflecting on the Journey[00:00:19] Alessio: Almost two years that we've been doing this. We've had four different studios. Uh, we've had a lot of changes. You know, we used to do this lightning round. When we first started that we didn't like, and we tried to change the question. The answer[00:00:32] swyx: was cursor and perplexity.[00:00:34] Alessio: Yeah, I love mid journey. It's like, do you really not like anything else?[00:00:38] Alessio: Like what's, what's the unique thing? And I think, yeah, we, we've also had a lot more research driven content. You know, we had like 3DAO, we had, you know. Jeremy Howard, we had more folks like that.[00:00:47] AI Engineering: The Rise and Impact[00:00:47] Alessio: I think we want to do more of that too in the new year, like having, uh, some of the Gemini folks, both on the research and the applied side.[00:00:54] Alessio: Yeah, but it's been a ton of fun. I think we both started, I wouldn't say as a joke, we were kind of like, Oh, we [00:01:00] should do a podcast. And I think we kind of caught the right wave, obviously. And I think your rise of the AI engineer posts just kind of get people. Sombra to congregate, and then the AI engineer summit.[00:01:11] Alessio: And that's why when I look at our growth chart, it's kind of like a proxy for like the AI engineering industry as a whole, which is almost like, like, even if we don't do that much, we keep growing just because there's so many more AI engineers. So did you expect that growth or did you expect that would take longer for like the AI engineer thing to kind of like become, you know, everybody talks about it today.[00:01:32] swyx: So, the sign of that, that we have won is that Gartner puts it at the top of the hype curve right now. So Gartner has called the peak in AI engineering. I did not expect, um, to what level. I knew that I was correct when I called it because I did like two months of work going into that. But I didn't know, You know, how quickly it could happen, and obviously there's a chance that I could be wrong.[00:01:52] swyx: But I think, like, most people have come around to that concept. Hacker News hates it, which is a good sign. But there's enough people that have defined it, you know, GitHub, when [00:02:00] they launched GitHub Models, which is the Hugging Face clone, they put AI engineers in the banner, like, above the fold, like, in big So I think it's like kind of arrived as a meaningful and useful definition.[00:02:12] swyx: I think people are trying to figure out where the boundaries are. I think that was a lot of the quote unquote drama that happens behind the scenes at the World's Fair in June. Because I think there's a lot of doubt or questions about where ML engineering stops and AI engineering starts. That's a useful debate to be had.[00:02:29] swyx: In some sense, I actually anticipated that as well. So I intentionally did not. Put a firm definition there because most of the successful definitions are necessarily underspecified and it's actually useful to have different perspectives and you don't have to specify everything from the outset.[00:02:45] Alessio: Yeah, I was at um, AWS reInvent and the line to get into like the AI engineering talk, so to speak, which is, you know, applied AI and whatnot was like, there are like hundreds of people just in line to go in.[00:02:56] Alessio: I think that's kind of what enabled me. People, right? Which is what [00:03:00] you kind of talked about. It's like, Hey, look, you don't actually need a PhD, just, yeah, just use the model. And then maybe we'll talk about some of the blind spots that you get as an engineer with the earlier posts that we also had on on the sub stack.[00:03:11] Alessio: But yeah, it's been a heck of a heck of a two years.[00:03:14] swyx: Yeah.[00:03:15] Latent Space Live and AI Conferences[00:03:15] swyx: You know, I was, I was trying to view the conference as like, so NeurIPS is I think like 16, 17, 000 people. And the Latent Space Live event that we held there was 950 signups. I think. The AI world, the ML world is still very much research heavy. And that's as it should be because ML is very much in a research phase.[00:03:34] swyx: But as we move this entire field into production, I think that ratio inverts into becoming more engineering heavy. So at least I think engineering should be on the same level, even if it's never as prestigious, like it'll always be low status because at the end of the day, you're manipulating APIs or whatever.[00:03:51] swyx: But Yeah, wrapping GPTs, but there's going to be an increasing stack and an art to doing these, these things well. And I, you know, I [00:04:00] think that's what we're focusing on for the podcast, the conference and basically everything I do seems to make sense. And I think we'll, we'll talk about the trends here that apply.[00:04:09] swyx: It's, it's just very strange. So, like, there's a mix of, like, keeping on top of research while not being a researcher and then putting that research into production. So, like, people always ask me, like, why are you covering Neuralibs? Like, this is a ML research conference and I'm like, well, yeah, I mean, we're not going to, to like, understand everything Or reproduce every single paper, but the stuff that is being found here is going to make it through into production at some point, you hope.[00:04:32] swyx: And then actually like when I talk to the researchers, they actually get very excited because they're like, oh, you guys are actually caring about how this goes into production and that's what they really really want. The measure of success is previously just peer review, right? Getting 7s and 8s on their um, Academic review conferences and stuff like citations is one metric, but money is a better metric.[00:04:51] Alessio: Money is a better metric. Yeah, and there were about 2200 people on the live stream or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Hundred on the live stream. So [00:05:00] I try my best to moderate, but it was a lot spicier in person with Jonathan and, and Dylan. Yeah, that it was in the chat on YouTube.[00:05:06] swyx: I would say that I actually also created.[00:05:09] swyx: Layen Space Live in order to address flaws that are perceived in academic conferences. This is not NeurIPS specific, it's ICML, NeurIPS. Basically, it's very sort of oriented towards the PhD student, uh, market, job market, right? Like literally all, basically everyone's there to advertise their research and skills and get jobs.[00:05:28] swyx: And then obviously all the, the companies go there to hire them. And I think that's great for the individual researchers, but for people going there to get info is not great because you have to read between the lines, bring a ton of context in order to understand every single paper. So what is missing is effectively what I ended up doing, which is domain by domain, go through and recap the best of the year.[00:05:48] swyx: Survey the field. And there are, like NeurIPS had a, uh, I think ICML had a like a position paper track, NeurIPS added a benchmarks, uh, datasets track. These are ways in which to address that [00:06:00] issue. Uh, there's always workshops as well. Every, every conference has, you know, a last day of workshops and stuff that provide more of an overview.[00:06:06] swyx: But they're not specifically prompted to do so. And I think really, uh, Organizing a conference is just about getting good speakers and giving them the correct prompts. And then they will just go and do that thing and they do a very good job of it. So I think Sarah did a fantastic job with the startups prompt.[00:06:21] swyx: I can't list everybody, but we did best of 2024 in startups, vision, open models. Post transformers, synthetic data, small models, and agents. And then the last one was the, uh, and then we also did a quick one on reasoning with Nathan Lambert. And then the last one, obviously, was the debate that people were very hyped about.[00:06:39] swyx: It was very awkward. And I'm really, really thankful for John Franco, basically, who stepped up to challenge Dylan. Because Dylan was like, yeah, I'll do it. But He was pro scaling. And I think everyone who is like in AI is pro scaling, right? So you need somebody who's ready to publicly say, no, we've hit a wall.[00:06:57] swyx: So that means you're saying Sam Altman's wrong. [00:07:00] You're saying, um, you know, everyone else is wrong. It helps that this was the day before Ilya went on, went up on stage and then said pre training has hit a wall. And data has hit a wall. So actually Jonathan ended up winning, and then Ilya supported that statement, and then Noam Brown on the last day further supported that statement as well.[00:07:17] swyx: So it's kind of interesting that I think the consensus kind of going in was that we're not done scaling, like you should believe in a better lesson. And then, four straight days in a row, you had Sepp Hochreiter, who is the creator of the LSTM, along with everyone's favorite OG in AI, which is Juergen Schmidhuber.[00:07:34] swyx: He said that, um, we're pre trading inside a wall, or like, we've run into a different kind of wall. And then we have, you know John Frankel, Ilya, and then Noam Brown are all saying variations of the same thing, that we have hit some kind of wall in the status quo of what pre trained, scaling large pre trained models has looked like, and we need a new thing.[00:07:54] swyx: And obviously the new thing for people is some make, either people are calling it inference time compute or test time [00:08:00] compute. I think the collective terminology has been inference time, and I think that makes sense because test time, calling it test, meaning, has a very pre trained bias, meaning that the only reason for running inference at all is to test your model.[00:08:11] swyx: That is not true. Right. Yeah. So, so, I quite agree that. OpenAI seems to have adopted, or the community seems to have adopted this terminology of ITC instead of TTC. And that, that makes a lot of sense because like now we care about inference, even right down to compute optimality. Like I actually interviewed this author who recovered or reviewed the Chinchilla paper.[00:08:31] swyx: Chinchilla paper is compute optimal training, but what is not stated in there is it's pre trained compute optimal training. And once you start caring about inference, compute optimal training, you have a different scaling law. And in a way that we did not know last year.[00:08:45] Alessio: I wonder, because John is, he's also on the side of attention is all you need.[00:08:49] Alessio: Like he had the bet with Sasha. So I'm curious, like he doesn't believe in scaling, but he thinks the transformer, I wonder if he's still. So, so,[00:08:56] swyx: so he, obviously everything is nuanced and you know, I told him to play a character [00:09:00] for this debate, right? So he actually does. Yeah. He still, he still believes that we can scale more.[00:09:04] swyx: Uh, he just assumed the character to be very game for, for playing this debate. So even more kudos to him that he assumed a position that he didn't believe in and still won the debate.[00:09:16] Alessio: Get rekt, Dylan. Um, do you just want to quickly run through some of these things? Like, uh, Sarah's presentation, just the highlights.[00:09:24] swyx: Yeah, we can't go through everyone's slides, but I pulled out some things as a factor of, like, stuff that we were going to talk about. And we'll[00:09:30] Alessio: publish[00:09:31] swyx: the rest. Yeah, we'll publish on this feed the best of 2024 in those domains. And hopefully people can benefit from the work that our speakers have done.[00:09:39] swyx: But I think it's, uh, these are just good slides. And I've been, I've been looking for a sort of end of year recaps from, from people.[00:09:44] The Competitive AI Landscape[00:09:44] swyx: The field has progressed a lot. You know, I think the max ELO in 2023 on LMSys used to be 1200 for LMSys ELOs. And now everyone is at least at, uh, 1275 in their ELOs, and this is across Gemini, Chadjibuti, [00:10:00] Grok, O1.[00:10:01] swyx: ai, which with their E Large model, and Enthopic, of course. It's a very, very competitive race. There are multiple Frontier labs all racing, but there is a clear tier zero Frontier. And then there's like a tier one. It's like, I wish I had everything else. Tier zero is extremely competitive. It's effectively now three horse race between Gemini, uh, Anthropic and OpenAI.[00:10:21] swyx: I would say that people are still holding out a candle for XAI. XAI, I think, for some reason, because their API was very slow to roll out, is not included in these metrics. So it's actually quite hard to put on there. As someone who also does charts, XAI is continually snubbed because they don't work well with the benchmarking people.[00:10:42] swyx: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a little trivia for why XAI always gets ignored. The other thing is market share. So these are slides from Sarah. We have it up on the screen. It has gone from very heavily open AI. So we have some numbers and estimates. These are from RAMP. Estimates of open AI market share in [00:11:00] December 2023.[00:11:01] swyx: And this is basically, what is it, GPT being 95 percent of production traffic. And I think if you correlate that with stuff that we asked. Harrison Chase on the LangChain episode, it was true. And then CLAUD 3 launched mid middle of this year. I think CLAUD 3 launched in March, CLAUD 3. 5 Sonnet was in June ish.[00:11:23] swyx: And you can start seeing the market share shift towards opening, uh, towards that topic, uh, very, very aggressively. The more recent one is Gemini. So if I scroll down a little bit, this is an even more recent dataset. So RAM's dataset ends in September 2 2. 2024. Gemini has basically launched a price war at the low end, uh, with Gemini Flash, uh, being basically free for personal use.[00:11:44] swyx: Like, I think people don't understand the free tier. It's something like a billion tokens per day. Unless you're trying to abuse it, you cannot really exhaust your free tier on Gemini. They're really trying to get you to use it. They know they're in like third place, um, fourth place, depending how you, how you count.[00:11:58] swyx: And so they're going after [00:12:00] the Lower tier first, and then, you know, maybe the upper tier later, but yeah, Gemini Flash, according to OpenRouter, is now 50 percent of their OpenRouter requests. Obviously, these are the small requests. These are small, cheap requests that are mathematically going to be more.[00:12:15] swyx: The smart ones obviously are still going to OpenAI. But, you know, it's a very, very big shift in the market. Like basically 2023, 2022, To going into 2024 opening has gone from nine five market share to Yeah. Reasonably somewhere between 50 to 75 market share.[00:12:29] Alessio: Yeah. I'm really curious how ramped does the attribution to the model?[00:12:32] Alessio: If it's API, because I think it's all credit card spin. . Well, but it's all, the credit card doesn't say maybe. Maybe the, maybe when they do expenses, they upload the PDF, but yeah, the, the German I think makes sense. I think that was one of my main 2024 takeaways that like. The best small model companies are the large labs, which is not something I would have thought that the open source kind of like long tail would be like the small model.[00:12:53] swyx: Yeah, different sizes of small models we're talking about here, right? Like so small model here for Gemini is AB, [00:13:00] right? Uh, mini. We don't know what the small model size is, but yeah, it's probably in the double digits or maybe single digits, but probably double digits. The open source community has kind of focused on the one to three B size.[00:13:11] swyx: Mm-hmm . Yeah. Maybe[00:13:12] swyx: zero, maybe 0.5 B uh, that's moon dream and that is small for you then, then that's great. It makes sense that we, we have a range for small now, which is like, may, maybe one to five B. Yeah. I'll even put that at, at, at the high end. And so this includes Gemma from Gemini as well. But also includes the Apple Foundation models, which I think Apple Foundation is 3B.[00:13:32] Alessio: Yeah. No, that's great. I mean, I think in the start small just meant cheap. I think today small is actually a more nuanced discussion, you know, that people weren't really having before.[00:13:43] swyx: Yeah, we can keep going. This is a slide that I smiley disagree with Sarah. She's pointing to the scale SEAL leaderboard. I think the Researchers that I talked with at NeurIPS were kind of positive on this because basically you need private test [00:14:00] sets to prevent contamination.[00:14:02] swyx: And Scale is one of maybe three or four people this year that has really made an effort in doing a credible private test set leaderboard. Llama405B does well compared to Gemini and GPT 40. And I think that's good. I would say that. You know, it's good to have an open model that is that big, that does well on those metrics.[00:14:23] swyx: But anyone putting 405B in production will tell you, if you scroll down a little bit to the artificial analysis numbers, that it is very slow and very expensive to infer. Um, it doesn't even fit on like one node. of, uh, of H100s. Cerebras will be happy to tell you they can serve 4 or 5B on their super large chips.[00:14:42] swyx: But, um, you know, if you need to do anything custom to it, you're still kind of constrained. So, is 4 or 5B really that relevant? Like, I think most people are basically saying that they only use 4 or 5B as a teacher model to distill down to something. Even Meta is doing it. So with Lama 3. [00:15:00] 3 launched, they only launched the 70B because they use 4 or 5B to distill the 70B.[00:15:03] swyx: So I don't know if like open source is keeping up. I think they're the, the open source industrial complex is very invested in telling you that the, if the gap is narrowing, I kind of disagree. I think that the gap is widening with O1. I think there are very, very smart people trying to narrow that gap and they should.[00:15:22] swyx: I really wish them success, but you cannot use a chart that is nearing 100 in your saturation chart. And look, the distance between open source and closed source is narrowing. Of course it's going to narrow because you're near 100. This is stupid. But in metrics that matter, is open source narrowing?[00:15:38] swyx: Probably not for O1 for a while. And it's really up to the open source guys to figure out if they can match O1 or not.[00:15:46] Alessio: I think inference time compute is bad for open source just because, you know, Doc can donate the flops at training time, but he cannot donate the flops at inference time. So it's really hard to like actually keep up on that axis.[00:15:59] Alessio: Big, big business [00:16:00] model shift. So I don't know what that means for the GPU clouds. I don't know what that means for the hyperscalers, but obviously the big labs have a lot of advantage. Because, like, it's not a static artifact that you're putting the compute in. You're kind of doing that still, but then you're putting a lot of computed inference too.[00:16:17] swyx: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, I mean, Llama4 will be reasoning oriented. We talked with Thomas Shalom. Um, kudos for getting that episode together. That was really nice. Good, well timed. Actually, I connected with the AI meta guy, uh, at NeurIPS, and, um, yeah, we're going to coordinate something for Llama4. Yeah, yeah,[00:16:32] Alessio: and our friend, yeah.[00:16:33] Alessio: Clara Shi just joined to lead the business agent side. So I'm sure we'll have her on in the new year.[00:16:39] swyx: Yeah. So, um, my comment on, on the business model shift, this is super interesting. Apparently it is wide knowledge that OpenAI wanted more than 6. 6 billion dollars for their fundraise. They wanted to raise, you know, higher, and they did not.[00:16:51] swyx: And what that means is basically like, it's very convenient that we're not getting GPT 5, which would have been a larger pre train. We should have a lot of upfront money. And [00:17:00] instead we're, we're converting fixed costs into variable costs, right. And passing it on effectively to the customer. And it's so much easier to take margin there because you can directly attribute it to like, Oh, you're using this more.[00:17:12] swyx: Therefore you, you pay more of the cost and I'll just slap a margin in there. So like that lets you control your growth margin and like tie your. Your spend, or your sort of inference spend, accordingly. And it's just really interesting to, that this change in the sort of inference paradigm has arrived exactly at the same time that the funding environment for pre training is effectively drying up, kind of.[00:17:36] swyx: I feel like maybe the VCs are very in tune with research anyway, so like, they would have noticed this, but, um, it's just interesting.[00:17:43] Alessio: Yeah, and I was looking back at our yearly recap of last year. Yeah. And the big thing was like the mixed trial price fights, you know, and I think now it's almost like there's nowhere to go, like, you know, Gemini Flash is like basically giving it away for free.[00:17:55] Alessio: So I think this is a good way for the labs to generate more revenue and pass down [00:18:00] some of the compute to the customer. I think they're going to[00:18:02] swyx: keep going. I think that 2, will come.[00:18:05] Alessio: Yeah, I know. Totally. I mean, next year, the first thing I'm doing is signing up for Devin. Signing up for the pro chat GBT.[00:18:12] Alessio: Just to try. I just want to see what does it look like to spend a thousand dollars a month on AI?[00:18:17] swyx: Yes. Yes. I think if your, if your, your job is a, at least AI content creator or VC or, you know, someone who, whose job it is to stay on, stay on top of things, you should already be spending like a thousand dollars a month on, on stuff.[00:18:28] swyx: And then obviously easy to spend, hard to use. You have to actually use. The good thing is that actually Google lets you do a lot of stuff for free now. So like deep research. That they just launched. Uses a ton of inference and it's, it's free while it's in preview.[00:18:45] Alessio: Yeah. They need to put that in Lindy.[00:18:47] Alessio: I've been using Lindy lately. I've been a built a bunch of things once we had flow because I liked the new thing. It's pretty good. I even did a phone call assistant. Um, yeah, they just launched Lindy voice. Yeah, I think once [00:19:00] they get advanced voice mode like capability today, still like speech to text, you can kind of tell.[00:19:06] Alessio: Um, but it's good for like reservations and things like that. So I have a meeting prepper thing. And so[00:19:13] swyx: it's good. Okay. I feel like we've, we've covered a lot of stuff. Uh, I, yeah, I, you know, I think We will go over the individual, uh, talks in a separate episode. Uh, I don't want to take too much time with, uh, this stuff, but that suffice to say that there is a lot of progress in each field.[00:19:28] swyx: Uh, we covered vision. Basically this is all like the audience voting for what they wanted. And then I just invited the best people I could find in each audience, especially agents. Um, Graham, who I talked to at ICML in Vienna, he is currently still number one. It's very hard to stay on top of SweetBench.[00:19:45] swyx: OpenHand is currently still number one. switchbench full, which is the hardest one. He had very good thoughts on agents, which I, which I'll highlight for people. Everyone is saying 2025 is the year of agents, just like they said last year. And, uh, but he had [00:20:00] thoughts on like eight parts of what are the frontier problems to solve in agents.[00:20:03] swyx: And so I'll highlight that talk as well.[00:20:05] Alessio: Yeah. The number six, which is the Hacken agents learn more about the environment, has been a Super interesting to us as well, just to think through, because, yeah, how do you put an agent in an enterprise where most things in an enterprise have never been public, you know, a lot of the tooling, like the code bases and things like that.[00:20:23] Alessio: So, yeah, there's not indexing and reg. Well, yeah, but it's more like. You can't really rag things that are not documented. But people know them based on how they've been doing it. You know, so I think there's almost this like, you know, Oh, institutional knowledge. Yeah, the boring word is kind of like a business process extraction.[00:20:38] Alessio: Yeah yeah, I see. It's like, how do you actually understand how these things are done? I see. Um, and I think today the, the problem is that, Yeah, the agents are, that most people are building are good at following instruction, but are not as good as like extracting them from you. Um, so I think that will be a big unlock just to touch quickly on the Jeff Dean thing.[00:20:55] Alessio: I thought it was pretty, I mean, we'll link it in the, in the things, but. I think the main [00:21:00] focus was like, how do you use ML to optimize the systems instead of just focusing on ML to do something else? Yeah, I think speculative decoding, we had, you know, Eugene from RWKB on the podcast before, like he's doing a lot of that with Fetterless AI.[00:21:12] swyx: Everyone is. I would say it's the norm. I'm a little bit uncomfortable with how much it costs, because it does use more of the GPU per call. But because everyone is so keen on fast inference, then yeah, makes sense.[00:21:24] Alessio: Exactly. Um, yeah, but we'll link that. Obviously Jeff is great.[00:21:30] swyx: Jeff is, Jeff's talk was more, it wasn't focused on Gemini.[00:21:33] swyx: I think people got the wrong impression from my tweet. It's more about how Google approaches ML and uses ML to design systems and then systems feedback into ML. And I think this ties in with Lubna's talk.[00:21:45] Synthetic Data and Future Trends[00:21:45] swyx: on synthetic data where it's basically the story of bootstrapping of humans and AI in AI research or AI in production.[00:21:53] swyx: So her talk was on synthetic data, where like how much synthetic data has grown in 2024 in the pre training side, the post training side, [00:22:00] and the eval side. And I think Jeff then also extended it basically to chips, uh, to chip design. So he'd spend a lot of time talking about alpha chip. And most of us in the audience are like, we're not working on hardware, man.[00:22:11] swyx: Like you guys are great. TPU is great. Okay. We'll buy TPUs.[00:22:14] Alessio: And then there was the earlier talk. Yeah. But, and then we have, uh, I don't know if we're calling them essays. What are we calling these? But[00:22:23] swyx: for me, it's just like bonus for late in space supporters, because I feel like they haven't been getting anything.[00:22:29] swyx: And then I wanted a more high frequency way to write stuff. Like that one I wrote in an afternoon. I think basically we now have an answer to what Ilya saw. It's one year since. The blip. And we know what he saw in 2014. We know what he saw in 2024. We think we know what he sees in 2024. He gave some hints and then we have vague indications of what he saw in 2023.[00:22:54] swyx: So that was the Oh, and then 2016 as well, because of this lawsuit with Elon, OpenAI [00:23:00] is publishing emails from Sam's, like, his personal text messages to Siobhan, Zelis, or whatever. So, like, we have emails from Ilya saying, this is what we're seeing in OpenAI, and this is why we need to scale up GPUs. And I think it's very prescient in 2016 to write that.[00:23:16] swyx: And so, like, it is exactly, like, basically his insights. It's him and Greg, basically just kind of driving the scaling up of OpenAI, while they're still playing Dota. They're like, no, like, we see the path here.[00:23:30] Alessio: Yeah, and it's funny, yeah, they even mention, you know, we can only train on 1v1 Dota. We need to train on 5v5, and that takes too many GPUs.[00:23:37] Alessio: Yeah,[00:23:37] swyx: and at least for me, I can speak for myself, like, I didn't see the path from Dota to where we are today. I think even, maybe if you ask them, like, they wouldn't necessarily draw a straight line. Yeah,[00:23:47] Alessio: no, definitely. But I think like that was like the whole idea of almost like the RL and we talked about this with Nathan on his podcast.[00:23:55] Alessio: It's like with RL, you can get very good at specific things, but then you can't really like generalize as much. And I [00:24:00] think the language models are like the opposite, which is like, you're going to throw all this data at them and scale them up, but then you really need to drive them home on a specific task later on.[00:24:08] Alessio: And we'll talk about the open AI reinforcement, fine tuning, um, announcement too, and all of that. But yeah, I think like scale is all you need. That's kind of what Elia will be remembered for. And I think just maybe to clarify on like the pre training is over thing that people love to tweet. I think the point of the talk was like everybody, we're scaling these chips, we're scaling the compute, but like the second ingredient which is data is not scaling at the same rate.[00:24:35] Alessio: So it's not necessarily pre training is over. It's kind of like What got us here won't get us there. In his email, he predicted like 10x growth every two years or something like that. And I think maybe now it's like, you know, you can 10x the chips again, but[00:24:49] swyx: I think it's 10x per year. Was it? I don't know.[00:24:52] Alessio: Exactly. And Moore's law is like 2x. So it's like, you know, much faster than that. And yeah, I like the fossil fuel of AI [00:25:00] analogy. It's kind of like, you know, the little background tokens thing. So the OpenAI reinforcement fine tuning is basically like, instead of fine tuning on data, you fine tune on a reward model.[00:25:09] Alessio: So it's basically like, instead of being data driven, it's like task driven. And I think people have tasks to do, they don't really have a lot of data. So I'm curious to see how that changes, how many people fine tune, because I think this is what people run into. It's like, Oh, you can fine tune llama. And it's like, okay, where do I get the data?[00:25:27] Alessio: To fine tune it on, you know, so it's great that we're moving the thing. And then I really like he had this chart where like, you know, the brain mass and the body mass thing is basically like mammals that scaled linearly by brain and body size, and then humans kind of like broke off the slope. So it's almost like maybe the mammal slope is like the pre training slope.[00:25:46] Alessio: And then the post training slope is like the, the human one.[00:25:49] swyx: Yeah. I wonder what the. I mean, we'll know in 10 years, but I wonder what the y axis is for, for Ilya's SSI. We'll try to get them on.[00:25:57] Alessio: Ilya, if you're listening, you're [00:26:00] welcome here. Yeah, and then he had, you know, what comes next, like agent, synthetic data, inference, compute, I thought all of that was like that.[00:26:05] Alessio: I don't[00:26:05] swyx: think he was dropping any alpha there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.[00:26:07] Alessio: Yeah. Any other new reps? Highlights?[00:26:10] swyx: I think that there was comparatively a lot more work. Oh, by the way, I need to plug that, uh, my friend Yi made this, like, little nice paper. Yeah, that was really[00:26:20] swyx: nice.[00:26:20] swyx: Uh, of, uh, of, like, all the, he's, she called it must read papers of 2024.[00:26:26] swyx: So I laid out some of these at NeurIPS, and it was just gone. Like, everyone just picked it up. Because people are dying for, like, little guidance and visualizations And so, uh, I thought it was really super nice that we got there.[00:26:38] Alessio: Should we do a late in space book for each year? Uh, I thought about it. For each year we should.[00:26:42] Alessio: Coffee table book. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Put it in the will. Hi, Will. By the way, we haven't introduced you. He's our new, you know, general organist, Jamie. You need to[00:26:52] swyx: pull up more things. One thing I saw that, uh, Okay, one fun one, and then one [00:27:00] more general one. So the fun one is this paper on agent collusion. This is a paper on steganography.[00:27:06] swyx: This is secret collusion among AI agents, multi agent deception via steganography. I tried to go to NeurIPS in order to find these kinds of papers because the real reason Like NeurIPS this year has a lottery system. A lot of people actually even go and don't buy tickets because they just go and attend the side events.[00:27:22] swyx: And then also the people who go and end up crowding around the most popular papers, which you already know and already read them before you showed up to NeurIPS. So the only reason you go there is to talk to the paper authors, but there's like something like 10, 000 other. All these papers out there that, you know, are just people's work that they, that they did on the air and they failed to get attention for one reason or another.[00:27:42] swyx: And this was one of them. Uh, it was like all the way at the back. And this is a deep mind paper that actually focuses on collusion between AI agents, uh, by hiding messages in the text that they generate. Uh, so that's what steganography is. So a very simple example would be the first letter of every word.[00:27:57] swyx: If you Pick that out, you know, and the code sends a [00:28:00] different message than that. But something I've always emphasized is to LLMs, we read left to right. LLMs can read up, down, sideways, you know, in random character order. And it's the same to them as it is to us. So if we were ever to get You know, self motivated, underlined LLMs that we're trying to collaborate to take over the planet.[00:28:19] swyx: This would be how they do it. They spread messages among us in the messages that we generate. And he developed a scaling law for that. So he marked, I'm showing it on screen right now, the emergence of this phenomenon. Basically, for example, for Cypher encoding, GPT 2, Lama 2, mixed trial, GPT 3. 5, zero capabilities, and sudden 4.[00:28:40] swyx: And this is the kind of Jason Wei type emergence properties that people kind of look for. I think what made this paper stand out as well, so he developed the benchmark for steganography collusion, and he also focused on shelling point collusion, which is very low coordination. For agreeing on a decoding encoding format, you kind of need to have some [00:29:00] agreement on that.[00:29:00] swyx: But, but shelling point means like very, very low or almost no coordination. So for example, if I, if I ask someone, if the only message I give you is meet me in New York and you're not aware. Or when you would probably meet me at Grand Central Station. That is the Grand Central Station is a shelling point.[00:29:16] swyx: And it's probably somewhere, somewhere during the day. That is the shelling point of New York is Grand Central. To that extent, shelling points for steganography are things like the, the, the common decoding methods that we talked about. It will be interesting at some point in the future when we are worried about alignment.[00:29:30] swyx: It is not interesting today, but it's interesting that DeepMind is already thinking about this.[00:29:36] Alessio: I think that's like one of the hardest things about NeurIPS. It's like the long tail. I[00:29:41] swyx: found a pricing guy. I'm going to feature him on the podcast. Basically, this guy from NVIDIA worked out the optimal pricing for language models.[00:29:51] swyx: It's basically an econometrics paper at NeurIPS, where everyone else is talking about GPUs. And the guy with the GPUs is[00:29:57] Alessio: talking[00:29:57] swyx: about economics instead. [00:30:00] That was the sort of fun one. So the focus I saw is that model papers at NeurIPS are kind of dead. No one really presents models anymore. It's just data sets.[00:30:12] swyx: This is all the grad students are working on. So like there was a data sets track and then I was looking around like, I was like, you don't need a data sets track because every paper is a data sets paper. And so data sets and benchmarks, they're kind of flip sides of the same thing. So Yeah. Cool. Yeah, if you're a grad student, you're a GPU boy, you kind of work on that.[00:30:30] swyx: And then the, the sort of big model that people walk around and pick the ones that they like, and then they use it in their models. And that's, that's kind of how it develops. I, I feel like, um, like, like you didn't last year, you had people like Hao Tian who worked on Lava, which is take Lama and add Vision.[00:30:47] swyx: And then obviously actually I hired him and he added Vision to Grok. Now he's the Vision Grok guy. This year, I don't think there was any of those.[00:30:55] Alessio: What were the most popular, like, orals? Last year it was like the [00:31:00] Mixed Monarch, I think, was like the most attended. Yeah, uh, I need to look it up. Yeah, I mean, if nothing comes to mind, that's also kind of like an answer in a way.[00:31:10] Alessio: But I think last year there was a lot of interest in, like, furthering models and, like, different architectures and all of that.[00:31:16] swyx: I will say that I felt the orals, oral picks this year were not very good. Either that or maybe it's just a So that's the highlight of how I have changed in terms of how I view papers.[00:31:29] swyx: So like, in my estimation, two of the best papers in this year for datasets or data comp and refined web or fine web. These are two actually industrially used papers, not highlighted for a while. I think DCLM got the spotlight, FineWeb didn't even get the spotlight. So like, it's just that the picks were different.[00:31:48] swyx: But one thing that does get a lot of play that a lot of people are debating is the role that's scheduled. This is the schedule free optimizer paper from Meta from Aaron DeFazio. And this [00:32:00] year in the ML community, there's been a lot of chat about shampoo, soap, all the bathroom amenities for optimizing your learning rates.[00:32:08] swyx: And, uh, most people at the big labs are. Who I asked about this, um, say that it's cute, but it's not something that matters. I don't know, but it's something that was discussed and very, very popular. 4Wars[00:32:19] Alessio: of AI recap maybe, just quickly. Um, where do you want to start? Data?[00:32:26] swyx: So to remind people, this is the 4Wars piece that we did as one of our earlier recaps of this year.[00:32:31] swyx: And the belligerents are on the left, journalists, writers, artists, anyone who owns IP basically, New York Times, Stack Overflow, Reddit, Getty, Sarah Silverman, George RR Martin. Yeah, and I think this year we can add Scarlett Johansson to that side of the fence. So anyone suing, open the eye, basically. I actually wanted to get a snapshot of all the lawsuits.[00:32:52] swyx: I'm sure some lawyer can do it. That's the data quality war. On the right hand side, we have the synthetic data people, and I think we talked about Lumna's talk, you know, [00:33:00] really showing how much synthetic data has come along this year. I think there was a bit of a fight between scale. ai and the synthetic data community, because scale.[00:33:09] swyx: ai published a paper saying that synthetic data doesn't work. Surprise, surprise, scale. ai is the leading vendor of non synthetic data. Only[00:33:17] Alessio: cage free annotated data is useful.[00:33:21] swyx: So I think there's some debate going on there, but I don't think it's much debate anymore that at least synthetic data, for the reasons that are blessed in Luna's talk, Makes sense.[00:33:32] swyx: I don't know if you have any perspectives there.[00:33:34] Alessio: I think, again, going back to the reinforcement fine tuning, I think that will change a little bit how people think about it. I think today people mostly use synthetic data, yeah, for distillation and kind of like fine tuning a smaller model from like a larger model.[00:33:46] Alessio: I'm not super aware of how the frontier labs use it outside of like the rephrase, the web thing that Apple also did. But yeah, I think it'll be. Useful. I think like whether or not that gets us the big [00:34:00] next step, I think that's maybe like TBD, you know, I think people love talking about data because it's like a GPU poor, you know, I think, uh, synthetic data is like something that people can do, you know, so they feel more opinionated about it compared to, yeah, the optimizers stuff, which is like,[00:34:17] swyx: they don't[00:34:17] Alessio: really work[00:34:18] swyx: on.[00:34:18] swyx: I think that there is an angle to the reasoning synthetic data. So this year, we covered in the paper club, the star series of papers. So that's star, Q star, V star. It basically helps you to synthesize reasoning steps, or at least distill reasoning steps from a verifier. And if you look at the OpenAI RFT, API that they released, or that they announced, basically they're asking you to submit graders, or they choose from a preset list of graders.[00:34:49] swyx: Basically It feels like a way to create valid synthetic data for them to fine tune their reasoning paths on. Um, so I think that is another angle where it starts to make sense. And [00:35:00] so like, it's very funny that basically all the data quality wars between Let's say the music industry or like the newspaper publishing industry or the textbooks industry on the big labs.[00:35:11] swyx: It's all of the pre training era. And then like the new era, like the reasoning era, like nobody has any problem with all the reasoning, especially because it's all like sort of math and science oriented with, with very reasonable graders. I think the more interesting next step is how does it generalize beyond STEM?[00:35:27] swyx: We've been using O1 for And I would say like for summarization and creative writing and instruction following, I think it's underrated. I started using O1 in our intro songs before we killed the intro songs, but it's very good at writing lyrics. You know, I can actually say like, I think one of the O1 pro demos.[00:35:46] swyx: All of these things that Noam was showing was that, you know, you can write an entire paragraph or three paragraphs without using the letter A, right?[00:35:53] Creative Writing with AI[00:35:53] swyx: So like, like literally just anything instead of token, like not even token level, character level manipulation and [00:36:00] counting and instruction following. It's, uh, it's very, very strong.[00:36:02] swyx: And so no surprises when I ask it to rhyme, uh, and to, to create song lyrics, it's going to do that very much better than in previous models. So I think it's underrated for creative writing.[00:36:11] Alessio: Yeah.[00:36:12] Legal and Ethical Issues in AI[00:36:12] Alessio: What do you think is the rationale that they're going to have in court when they don't show you the thinking traces of O1, but then they want us to, like, they're getting sued for using other publishers data, you know, but then on their end, they're like, well, you shouldn't be using my data to then train your model.[00:36:29] Alessio: So I'm curious to see how that kind of comes. Yeah, I mean, OPA has[00:36:32] swyx: many ways to publish, to punish people without bringing, taking them to court. Already banned ByteDance for distilling their, their info. And so anyone caught distilling the chain of thought will be just disallowed to continue on, on, on the API.[00:36:44] swyx: And it's fine. It's no big deal. Like, I don't even think that's an issue at all, just because the chain of thoughts are pretty well hidden. Like you have to work very, very hard to, to get it to leak. And then even when it leaks the chain of thought, you don't know if it's, if it's [00:37:00] The bigger concern is actually that there's not that much IP hiding behind it, that Cosign, which we talked about, we talked to him on Dev Day, can just fine tune 4.[00:37:13] swyx: 0 to beat 0. 1 Cloud SONET so far is beating O1 on coding tasks without, at least O1 preview, without being a reasoning model, same for Gemini Pro or Gemini 2. 0. So like, how much is reasoning important? How much of a moat is there in this, like, All of these are proprietary sort of training data that they've presumably accomplished.[00:37:34] swyx: Because even DeepSeek was able to do it. And they had, you know, two months notice to do this, to do R1. So, it's actually unclear how much moat there is. Obviously, you know, if you talk to the Strawberry team, they'll be like, yeah, I mean, we spent the last two years doing this. So, we don't know. And it's going to be Interesting because there'll be a lot of noise from people who say they have inference time compute and actually don't because they just have fancy chain of thought.[00:38:00][00:38:00] swyx: And then there's other people who actually do have very good chain of thought. And you will not see them on the same level as OpenAI because OpenAI has invested a lot in building up the mythology of their team. Um, which makes sense. Like the real answer is somewhere in between.[00:38:13] Alessio: Yeah, I think that's kind of like the main data war story developing.[00:38:18] The Data War: GPU Poor vs. GPU Rich[00:38:18] Alessio: GPU poor versus GPU rich. Yeah. Where do you think we are? I think there was, again, going back to like the small model thing, there was like a time in which the GPU poor were kind of like the rebel faction working on like these models that were like open and small and cheap. And I think today people don't really care as much about GPUs anymore.[00:38:37] Alessio: You also see it in the price of the GPUs. Like, you know, that market is kind of like plummeted because there's people don't want to be, they want to be GPU free. They don't even want to be poor. They just want to be, you know, completely without them. Yeah. How do you think about this war? You[00:38:52] swyx: can tell me about this, but like, I feel like the, the appetite for GPU rich startups, like the, you know, the, the funding plan is we will raise 60 million and [00:39:00] we'll give 50 of that to NVIDIA.[00:39:01] swyx: That is gone, right? Like, no one's, no one's pitching that. This was literally the plan, the exact plan of like, I can name like four or five startups, you know, this time last year. So yeah, GPU rich startups gone.[00:39:12] The Rise of GPU Ultra Rich[00:39:12] swyx: But I think like, The GPU ultra rich, the GPU ultra high net worth is still going. So, um, now we're, you know, we had Leopold's essay on the trillion dollar cluster.[00:39:23] swyx: We're not quite there yet. We have multiple labs, um, you know, XAI very famously, you know, Jensen Huang praising them for being. Best boy number one in spinning up 100, 000 GPU cluster in like 12 days or something. So likewise at Meta, likewise at OpenAI, likewise at the other labs as well. So like the GPU ultra rich are going to keep doing that because I think partially it's an article of faith now that you just need it.[00:39:46] swyx: Like you don't even know what it's going to, what you're going to use it for. You just, you just need it. And it makes sense that if, especially if we're going into. More researchy territory than we are. So let's say 2020 to 2023 was [00:40:00] let's scale big models territory because we had GPT 3 in 2020 and we were like, okay, we'll go from 1.[00:40:05] swyx: 75b to 1. 8b, 1. 8t. And that was GPT 3 to GPT 4. Okay, that's done. As far as everyone is concerned, Opus 3. 5 is not coming out, GPT 4. 5 is not coming out, and Gemini 2, we don't have Pro, whatever. We've hit that wall. Maybe I'll call it the 2 trillion perimeter wall. We're not going to 10 trillion. No one thinks it's a good idea, at least from training costs, from the amount of data, or at least the inference.[00:40:36] swyx: Would you pay 10x the price of GPT Probably not. Like, like you want something else that, that is at least more useful. So it makes sense that people are pivoting in terms of their inference paradigm.[00:40:47] Emerging Trends in AI Models[00:40:47] swyx: And so when it's more researchy, then you actually need more just general purpose compute to mess around with, uh, at the exact same time that production deployments of the old, the previous paradigm is still ramping up,[00:40:58] swyx: um,[00:40:58] swyx: uh, pretty aggressively.[00:40:59] swyx: So [00:41:00] it makes sense that the GPU rich are growing. We have now interviewed both together and fireworks and replicates. Uh, we haven't done any scale yet. But I think Amazon, maybe kind of a sleeper one, Amazon, in a sense of like they, at reInvent, I wasn't expecting them to do so well, but they are now a foundation model lab.[00:41:18] swyx: It's kind of interesting. Um, I think, uh, you know, David went over there and started just creating models.[00:41:25] Alessio: Yeah, I mean, that's the power of prepaid contracts. I think like a lot of AWS customers, you know, they do this big reserve instance contracts and now they got to use their money. That's why so many startups.[00:41:37] Alessio: Get bought through the AWS marketplace so they can kind of bundle them together and prefer pricing.[00:41:42] swyx: Okay, so maybe GPU super rich doing very well, GPU middle class dead, and then GPU[00:41:48] Alessio: poor. I mean, my thing is like, everybody should just be GPU rich. There shouldn't really be, even the GPU poorest, it's like, does it really make sense to be GPU poor?[00:41:57] Alessio: Like, if you're GPU poor, you should just use the [00:42:00] cloud. Yes, you know, and I think there might be a future once we kind of like figure out what the size and shape of these models is where like the tiny box and these things come to fruition where like you can be GPU poor at home. But I think today is like, why are you working so hard to like get these models to run on like very small clusters where it's like, It's so cheap to run them.[00:42:21] Alessio: Yeah, yeah,[00:42:22] swyx: yeah. I think mostly people think it's cool. People think it's a stepping stone to scaling up. So they aspire to be GPU rich one day and they're working on new methods. Like news research, like probably the most deep tech thing they've done this year is Distro or whatever the new name is.[00:42:38] swyx: There's a lot of interest in heterogeneous computing, distributed computing. I tend generally to de emphasize that historically, but it may be coming to a time where it is starting to be relevant. I don't know. You know, SF compute launched their compute marketplace this year, and like, who's really using that?[00:42:53] swyx: Like, it's a bunch of small clusters, disparate types of compute, and if you can make that [00:43:00] useful, then that will be very beneficial to the broader community, but maybe still not the source of frontier models. It's just going to be a second tier of compute that is unlocked for people, and that's fine. But yeah, I mean, I think this year, I would say a lot more on device, We are, I now have Apple intelligence on my phone.[00:43:19] swyx: Doesn't do anything apart from summarize my notifications. But still, not bad. Like, it's multi modal.[00:43:25] Alessio: Yeah, the notification summaries are so and so in my experience.[00:43:29] swyx: Yeah, but they add, they add juice to life. And then, um, Chrome Nano, uh, Gemini Nano is coming out in Chrome. Uh, they're still feature flagged, but you can, you can try it now if you, if you use the, uh, the alpha.[00:43:40] swyx: And so, like, I, I think, like, you know, We're getting the sort of GPU poor version of a lot of these things coming out, and I think it's like quite useful. Like Windows as well, rolling out RWKB in sort of every Windows department is super cool. And I think the last thing that I never put in this GPU poor war, that I think I should now, [00:44:00] is the number of startups that are GPU poor but still scaling very well, as sort of wrappers on top of either a foundation model lab, or GPU Cloud.[00:44:10] swyx: GPU Cloud, it would be Suno. Suno, Ramp has rated as one of the top ranked, fastest growing startups of the year. Um, I think the last public number is like zero to 20 million this year in ARR and Suno runs on Moto. So Suno itself is not GPU rich, but they're just doing the training on, on Moto, uh, who we've also talked to on, on the podcast.[00:44:31] swyx: The other one would be Bolt, straight cloud wrapper. And, and, um, Again, another, now they've announced 20 million ARR, which is another step up from our 8 million that we put on the title. So yeah, I mean, it's crazy that all these GPU pores are finding a way while the GPU riches are also finding a way. And then the only failures, I kind of call this the GPU smiling curve, where the edges do well, because you're either close to the machines, and you're like [00:45:00] number one on the machines, or you're like close to the customers, and you're number one on the customer side.[00:45:03] swyx: And the people who are in the middle. Inflection, um, character, didn't do that great. I think character did the best of all of them. Like, you have a note in here that we apparently said that character's price tag was[00:45:15] Alessio: 1B.[00:45:15] swyx: Did I say that?[00:45:16] Alessio: Yeah. You said Google should just buy them for 1B. I thought it was a crazy number.[00:45:20] Alessio: Then they paid 2. 7 billion. I mean, for like,[00:45:22] swyx: yeah.[00:45:22] Alessio: What do you pay for node? Like, I don't know what the game world was like. Maybe the starting price was 1B. I mean, whatever it was, it worked out for everybody involved.[00:45:31] The Multi-Modality War[00:45:31] Alessio: Multimodality war. And this one, we never had text to video in the first version, which now is the hottest.[00:45:37] swyx: Yeah, I would say it's a subset of image, but yes.[00:45:40] Alessio: Yeah, well, but I think at the time it wasn't really something people were doing, and now we had VO2 just came out yesterday. Uh, Sora was released last month, last week. I've not tried Sora, because the day that I tried, it wasn't, yeah. I[00:45:54] swyx: think it's generally available now, you can go to Sora.[00:45:56] swyx: com and try it. Yeah, they had[00:45:58] Alessio: the outage. Which I [00:46:00] think also played a part into it. Small things. Yeah. What's the other model that you posted today that was on Replicate? Video or OneLive?[00:46:08] swyx: Yeah. Very, very nondescript name, but it is from Minimax, which I think is a Chinese lab. The Chinese labs do surprisingly well at the video models.[00:46:20] swyx: I'm not sure it's actually Chinese. I don't know. Hold me up to that. Yep. China. It's good. Yeah, the Chinese love video. What can I say? They have a lot of training data for video. Or a more relaxed regulatory environment.[00:46:37] Alessio: Uh, well, sure, in some way. Yeah, I don't think there's much else there. I think like, you know, on the image side, I think it's still open.[00:46:45] Alessio: Yeah, I mean,[00:46:46] swyx: 11labs is now a unicorn. So basically, what is multi modality war? Multi modality war is, do you specialize in a single modality, right? Or do you have GodModel that does all the modalities? So this is [00:47:00] definitely still going, in a sense of 11 labs, you know, now Unicorn, PicoLabs doing well, they launched Pico 2.[00:47:06] swyx: 0 recently, HeyGen, I think has reached 100 million ARR, Assembly, I don't know, but they have billboards all over the place, so I assume they're doing very, very well. So these are all specialist models, specialist models and specialist startups. And then there's the big labs who are doing the sort of all in one play.[00:47:24] swyx: And then here I would highlight Gemini 2 for having native image output. Have you seen the demos? Um, yeah, it's, it's hard to keep up. Literally they launched this last week and a shout out to Paige Bailey, who came to the Latent Space event to demo on the day of launch. And she wasn't prepared. She was just like, I'm just going to show you.[00:47:43] swyx: So they have voice. They have, you know, obviously image input, and then they obviously can code gen and all that. But the new one that OpenAI and Meta both have but they haven't launched yet is image output. So you can literally, um, I think their demo video was that you put in an image of a [00:48:00] car, and you ask for minor modifications to that car.[00:48:02] swyx: They can generate you that modification exactly as you asked. So there's no need for the stable diffusion or comfy UI workflow of like mask here and then like infill there in paint there and all that, all that stuff. This is small model nonsense. Big model people are like, huh, we got you in as everything in the transformer.[00:48:21] swyx: This is the multimodality war, which is, do you, do you bet on the God model or do you string together a whole bunch of, uh, Small models like a, like a chump. Yeah,[00:48:29] Alessio: I don't know, man. Yeah, that would be interesting. I mean, obviously I use Midjourney for all of our thumbnails. Um, they've been doing a ton on the product, I would say.[00:48:38] Alessio: They launched a new Midjourney editor thing. They've been doing a ton. Because I think, yeah, the motto is kind of like, Maybe, you know, people say black forest, the black forest models are better than mid journey on a pixel by pixel basis. But I think when you put it, put it together, have you tried[00:48:53] swyx: the same problems on black forest?[00:48:55] Alessio: Yes. But the problem is just like, you know, on black forest, it generates one image. And then it's like, you got to [00:49:00] regenerate. You don't have all these like UI things. Like what I do, no, but it's like time issue, you know, it's like a mid[00:49:06] swyx: journey. Call the API four times.[00:49:08] Alessio: No, but then there's no like variate.[00:49:10] Alessio: Like the good thing about mid journey is like, you just go in there and you're cooking. There's a lot of stuff that just makes it really easy. And I think people underestimate that. Like, it's not really a skill issue, because I'm paying mid journey, so it's a Black Forest skill issue, because I'm not paying them, you know?[00:49:24] Alessio: Yeah,[00:49:25] swyx: so, okay, so, uh, this is a UX thing, right? Like, you, you, you understand that, at least, we think that Black Forest should be able to do all that stuff. I will also shout out, ReCraft has come out, uh, on top of the image arena that, uh, artificial analysis has done, has apparently, uh, Flux's place. Is this still true?[00:49:41] swyx: So, Artificial Analysis is now a company. I highlighted them I think in one of the early AI Newses of the year. And they have launched a whole bunch of arenas. So, they're trying to take on LM Arena, Anastasios and crew. And they have an image arena. Oh yeah, Recraft v3 is now beating Flux 1. 1. Which is very surprising [00:50:00] because Flux And Black Forest Labs are the old stable diffusion crew who left stability after, um, the management issues.[00:50:06] swyx: So Recurve has come from nowhere to be the top image model. Uh, very, very strange. I would also highlight that Grok has now launched Aurora, which is, it's very interesting dynamics between Grok and Black Forest Labs because Grok's images were originally launched, uh, in partnership with Black Forest Labs as a, as a thin wrapper.[00:50:24] swyx: And then Grok was like, no, we'll make our own. And so they've made their own. I don't know, there are no APIs or benchmarks about it. They just announced it. So yeah, that's the multi modality war. I would say that so far, the small model, the dedicated model people are winning, because they are just focused on their tasks.[00:50:42] swyx: But the big model, People are always catching up. And the moment I saw the Gemini 2 demo of image editing, where I can put in an image and just request it and it does, that's how AI should work. Not like a whole bunch of complicated steps. So it really is something. And I think one frontier that we haven't [00:51:00] seen this year, like obviously video has done very well, and it will continue to grow.[00:51:03] swyx: You know, we only have Sora Turbo today, but at some point we'll get full Sora. Oh, at least the Hollywood Labs will get Fulsora. We haven't seen video to audio, or video synced to audio. And so the researchers that I talked to are already starting to talk about that as the next frontier. But there's still maybe like five more years of video left to actually be Soda.[00:51:23] swyx: I would say that Gemini's approach Compared to OpenAI, Gemini seems, or DeepMind's approach to video seems a lot more fully fledged than OpenAI. Because if you look at the ICML recap that I published that so far nobody has listened to, um, that people have listened to it. It's just a different, definitely different audience.[00:51:43] swyx: It's only seven hours long. Why are people not listening? It's like everything in Uh, so, so DeepMind has, is working on Genie. They also launched Genie 2 and VideoPoet. So, like, they have maybe four years advantage on world modeling that OpenAI does not have. Because OpenAI basically only started [00:52:00] Diffusion Transformers last year, you know, when they hired, uh, Bill Peebles.[00:52:03] swyx: So, DeepMind has, has a bit of advantage here, I would say, in, in, in showing, like, the reason that VO2, while one, They cherry pick their videos. So obviously it looks better than Sora, but the reason I would believe that VO2, uh, when it's fully launched will do very well is because they have all this background work in video that they've done for years.[00:52:22] swyx: Like, like last year's NeurIPS, I already was interviewing some of their video people. I forget their model name, but for, for people who are dedicated fans, they can go to NeurIPS 2023 and see, see that paper.[00:52:32] Alessio: And then last but not least, the LLMOS. We renamed it to Ragops, formerly known as[00:52:39] swyx: Ragops War. I put the latest chart on the Braintrust episode.[00:52:43] swyx: I think I'm going to separate these essays from the episode notes. So the reason I used to do that, by the way, is because I wanted to show up on Hacker News. I wanted the podcast to show up on Hacker News. So I always put an essay inside of there because Hacker News people like to read and not listen.[00:52:58] Alessio: So episode essays,[00:52:59] swyx: I remember [00:53:00] purchasing them separately. You say Lanchain Llama Index is still growing.[00:53:03] Alessio: Yeah, so I looked at the PyPy stats, you know. I don't care about stars. On PyPy you see Do you want to share your screen? Yes. I prefer to look at actual downloads, not at stars on GitHub. So if you look at, you know, Lanchain still growing.[00:53:20] Alessio: These are the last six months. Llama Index still growing. What I've basically seen is like things that, One, obviously these things have A commercial product. So there's like people buying this and sticking with it versus kind of hopping in between things versus, you know, for example, crew AI, not really growing as much.[00:53:38] Alessio: The stars are growing. If you look on GitHub, like the stars are growing, but kind of like the usage is kind of like flat. In the last six months, have they done some[00:53:4