Mess Makes Meaning

Follow Mess Makes Meaning
Share on
Copy link to clipboard

Caring for young children's spirituality is a delicate balance and can often be made more difficult when we grown-ups don't care for ourselves. Struggling through religious or church related trauma or even feelings of inadequacy when it comes to answering our children's big questions. At Mess Makes Meaning we are here to equip the parents/caregivers to remind them and their children they are deeply loved by interviewing some guests who are professionals in this vital work. With relatable humor from hosts and guests alike, this podcast is for you and created by Godly Play®  

Joy and Raenelle


    • Jun 1, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
    • monthly NEW EPISODES
    • 37m AVG DURATION
    • 20 EPISODES


    Search for episodes from Mess Makes Meaning with a specific topic:

    Latest episodes from Mess Makes Meaning

    Healthy Sports Parents with Jonathan Carone

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2025 70:14


    Being a parent with children in todays very active and demanding world of athletics can be overwhelming. Jonathan Carone, creator of the "Healthy Sports Parents" is making sense out of this time of life. Come have a listen and soak in this reminder that we are not alone in the messy yet meaningful aspects of parenting today. Healthy Sports Parents

    Parenting: The Complex and Beautiful Vocation of Raising Children by Holly Taylor Coolman

    Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2025 46:07


    Holly Taylor Coolman gifts us with insights in this theologically rich conversation on parenting now and her book Parenting: The Complex and Beautiful Vocation of Raising Children.

    Bless This Mess with Rev. Molly Baskette and Ellen O'Donnnell

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 1, 2025 46:29


    Rev. Molly Baskette and child psychologist Ellen O'Donnnell, the co-authors of Bless This Mess, A Modern Guide to Faith and Parenting in a Chaotic WorldFor a relatable, at many times humorous, and helpful guide this episode takes pieces of the book, Bless This Mess, and addresses some of the parenting concerns at the forefront of our minds. Enjoy! 

    The Book of Belonging with author Mariko Clark and illustrator Rachel Eleanor

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2025 94:13


    Incredible creators of the Book of Belonging, author Mariko Clark and illustrator Rachel Eleanor. "The Book of Belonging is designed for families seeking a Bible storybook that reflects the diversity of God's people and for every reader seeking a more expansive and wondrous view of God. The thoughtful text and rich illustrations present some of Scripture's most important and overlooked stories—including many female-centered ones—alongside old favorites reimagined to convey greater inclusivity, diversity, and historical representation. Through narratives, mindful practices, and guided wonder moments, children and grown-ups alike will learn who God is and be reminded over and over that God tells each of us, “You are Beloved, you Belong, and you are Delightful.” Because when it comes to the love of God, everyone belongs."

    Rage Prayers with author Rev. Elizabeth Riley

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2025 33:02


    RAGE PRAYERS originally came out of an off-handed tiktok - inviting people to reject toxic positivity in faith. Christianity is full of practices focused on positivity. Rage prayer is anything but that. Our relationship with God is not hindered but deepened when we bring our whole selves: gratitude and sorrow, joy and rage, and everything in between.Dive into a fun and very real episode with Joy, Raenelle, and the Reverend Elizabeth Riley!Learn more about Rage Prayers HERE

    Episode 14 - Seeing our Teens, Dr. Chan

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 2025 21:18


    Dr. Michael Chan talks to us about the importance of walking alongside Youth as they navigate their faith journey during a time of life that can be challenging. How do we honor their stories? Dr. Chan gives beautiful insights into this discussion on letting your light shine. Dr. Chan joined the Concordia College community in June 2022 as the executive director for faith and learning. Prior to that, he was associate professor of Old Testament at Luther Seminary in St. Paul, Minnesota. He joined Luther Seminary after completing his Ph.D. at Emory University and a year of research and teaching at the University of Helsinki. He is a graduate of Luther Seminary (M.A. in biblical theology) and Pacific Lutheran University (B.A. in elementary education). Dr. Chan provides leadership and support for the Office of Inclusion Diversity, Equity, and Opportunity; the Campus Ministry team; the Dovre Center for Faith and Learning; and the Lorentzsen Center for Faith and Work.

    Lacy Finn Borgo- Spiritual Conversations with Children

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 1, 2024 36:25


    In this episode we hear from Lacy Finn Borgo, who dives into her insights on spiritual conversations with children. What better time to discuss as we enter into the mystery of Christmas. Click HERE to learn more about Lacy and her work. 

    Episode 12 - Sacred Space

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2024 33:36


    Episode 11 - Grief with Children

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 1, 2024 31:40


    Grief. This topic can be taboo with kids, but that doesn't mean it isn't real. Join us as we get emotional talking with our expert guest Jessica Field and find out what we as the parents/caregivers who treasure our children can do when it comes to grief.Guest: Jessica Field MPS, is a Spiritual Wellness Coach for individuals and groups. She builds off of her diverse experience in trauma, mental health, social services, and spiritual care to walk with others through grief, forgiveness, purpose, and joy.  To learn more about Jessica and the workshops she offers, click here.

    Episode 10 - Family Rhythms

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 1, 2024 34:51


    Join the Godly Play Foundation staff as they talk about the ups and downs of leaving summer, greeting fall, and implementing family rhythms to have their kids feel as supported as they can be during this change of season. Stay tuned for the blessing at the end of each episode because that is especially for you, the parents/caregivers listening. You are enough. You are loved. For Wondering prompts to do with your family at the table, bedtime, or in the car, text "WONDER" to (833)359-7488I wonder what family rhythm your family likes best

    Episode 9 - Silence

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2024 31:44


    On this episode we talk with Melinda Wenner Bradley (she/her) about the importance of silence. Melinda is a licensed Godly Play Trainer and the Director of Communications and Training for Faith & Play Stories. Since 2005, she has been sharing Godly Play and Faith & Play stories in children's programs, intergenerational worship, school classrooms, teacher workshops, and international travel in the ministry among Quakers. Her teaching ministry weaves together interests in children's spiritual lives, program development, and support for families and teachers in faith communities and schools. Melinda advocates shifting religious formation away from scholastic models and toward experiential, belonging-focused ways of being with children and inviting them into spiritual community with all ages. The Godly Play method and stories, and for Friends the Faith & Play stories, are vital resources for making that change and nurturing growth in faith communities. Melinda holds a BA from Bryn Mawr College, MA in Education from the University of Michigan, and MA in Ministry and Leadership from Lancaster Theological Seminary. She is a co-author and editor of Faith & Play: Quaker Stories for Friends Trained in the Godly Play Method (FGC Press). In 2014, Melinda co-founded the Quaker Religious Education Collaborative, a grassroots, international network of religious education practitioners supporting life-long spiritual formation. She is the parent of three young adults who were raised on Godly Play and Faith & Play stories and are her most beloved circle.

    Episode 8 - Play with Rev. Dr. Lakisha Lockhart

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2024 30:36


    Rev. Dr. Lakisha R. Lockhart is a mother, wife, daughter, sister, former Zumba instructor, Womanist and coolest auntie around. She believes in the power of play, movement, aesthetics, and creative arts in life and in theology, using the body as a locus for theological reflection. She is a consultant, executive secretary for the Religious Education Association, and in her professorial role as Assistant Professor of Christian Education at Union Presbyterian Seminary she is not only a teacher, but a facilitator, rope jumper, game-player, advocate and catalyst for critical consciousness and engagement in educating in faith and actually living into that faith through various spiritual and artistic practices. 

    Episode 7 - Five Love Languages of Children

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2024 40:17


    5 Love Languages of Children expert Dr. Jennifer Thomas dives deep into the possible love languages of children and how we can apply this knowledge as the parents and caregivers. 

    Episode 6 - Church Hurt and Mental Health

    Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2024 31:12


    As we step into Mental Health Awareness Month, we're thrilled to have Dr. Jessica Young Brown join us on the podcast!

    Episode 5 - Every Season Sacred

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 1, 2024 33:03


    Kayla Craig is the insta-famous creator of Liturgies for Parents and the author of Every Season Sacred. Kayla has such a beautiful way of speaking to the heart of parents who have a love of faith and their children and want to connect the two. 

    Episode 4 - Science and Spirituality

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2024 43:08


    During this episode, Daniel Wolpert talks through Christianity in an Age of Science and the road blocks Christians can some times go up against around this topic.  Dan is the Executive Director and co-founder of MICAH, the Minnesota Institute for Contemplation and Healing, he is a spouse, partner, ally, activist, and dad. Dan has been a student of the spiritual life since age 21 and has taught in the fields of psychology and spiritual formation in numerous settings. In addition to his retreat and teaching work, Dan provides counseling and spiritual direction services at MICAH. He is also the author of many books, two of which we will go into today: Creating a Life with God: The Call of Ancient Prayer Practices, The Collapse of the Three Story Universe: Christianity in an Age of Science.

    Episode 3 - Woven in Trust

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2024 33:28


    Godly Play Foundation brings us an heart-opening interview full of aha moments with the incredible Pastor Meredith Miller, author of "Woven: Nurturing a Faith your Kid Doesn't Have to Heal From." Meredith offers us a different way of looking at strengthening our relationship and our children's relationships with God.  Find more of Meredith's resources on here website: https://meredithannemiller.com/ 

    Episode 2 - Fresh Start

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 2024 38:30


    HAPPY NEW YEAR! Now is the time  of fresh starts, but also, how do we honor where we are?  We were honored to speak with our guest Ellie Roscher.  Ellie is the author of Remarkable Rose, The Embodied Path, 12 Tiny Things, Play Like a Girl and How Coffee Saved My Life. Her writing also appears in the Baltimore Review, Eunoia Review, Mothering Spirit, Inscape Magazine, and elsewhere. Ellie teaches yoga and writing in Minneapolis. She holds an MFA in Writing from Sarah Lawrence College and an MA in Theology from Luther Seminary. 

    Episode 1 - Presence over Presents

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 10, 2023 25:57


    In our first episode we dive into the busy holiday season and how the Reverend Cynthia Williams Insko offers tips and tricks for being present with our children in the mess of it all.  From practical tips to AHA moments, Joy and Raenelle truly soaked up this information and can't wait to implement these ideas in our own households. 

    Welcome

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 10, 2023 2:28


    Welcome to Mess Makes Meaning with Joy and Raenelle. Brought to you by the Godly Play Foundation, we are here as fellow parents who understand we all want to nurture our children's spirituality, but life is messy and some times finding the meaning in that mess is hard. We will talk with guests each episode who have insight into ways we can care for our children while caring for ourselves as we make meaning together through narrative, wonder, rhythm and play. 

    Claim Mess Makes Meaning

    In order to claim this podcast we'll send an email to with a verification link. Simply click the link and you will be able to edit tags, request a refresh, and other features to take control of your podcast page!

    Claim Cancel