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Thank you Peter Bedard for joining me again on the Born To Talk Radio Show Podcast. Peter is a Clinical Hypnotherapist, Author & Speaker. He developed a process 21 years ago called Convergence Healing. The timing of our conversation is perfect because May is Mental Health Awareness Month. Did you know that Mental Health...
What happens when the afterlife doesn't want you — yet? In this unforgettable installment of The Journey Beyond Death, we dive into three riveting near-death experiences that challenge our assumptions about free will, divinity, and soul purpose. Part 17 is also the seventh entry in our transformative eight-part series featuring firsthand NDE accounts. We begin with Peter Bedard, whose moped crash at age 17 launched him out of his body and into a realm of unspeakable beauty. There, he met a luminous being with an energy reminiscent of Lao Tzu, who told him — bluntly — that his arrival was a cosmic mistake. Bedard's tale, both humorous and heartfelt, explores the shock of being "kicked out of heaven" and the deep yearning that follows such an experience. We're also joined by Peter Vittar, who lends his own reflections on soul contracts, the pain of reincarnating against one's will, and the subtle comedy woven into cosmic design. Psychic medium Karyn Reece reveals a multidimensional journey involving departed loved ones and lush celestial landscapes, while Howard Storm recounts his harrowing descent into a dark realm — and his unexpected rescue by a radiant being of light that transformed his atheism into lifelong spiritual devotion. This episode explores moral responsibility, spiritual awakening, the concept of multidimensional lives, and why death may be the most honest mirror we ever face. It's raw, revelatory, and at times, surprisingly funny. --------------------------------- Featuring in order of appearance: 02:00 – NDE Survivor Peter Bedard 19:20 – NDE Survivor & Psychic Medium Karyn Reece 28:26 – NDE Survivor Howard Storm --------------------------------- Peter Bedard Peter Bedard is an NDE survivor, author, and healing expert who integrates science and spirituality to help people overcome trauma, anxiety, and chronic pain. After a near-death experience in his youth, Peter developed a unique approach to wellness called "Convergence Healing," which focuses on addressing emotional root causes. He is also a trained hypnotherapist and frequent guest speaker on mind-body healing. Website: www.ConvergenceHealing.com Karyn Reece Karyn Reece is a psychic medium and NDE survivor known for her vivid insights into the afterlife and her ability to deliver highly detailed and accurate readings. With over 20 years of experience and numerous television appearances, Karyn has brought comfort and validation to thousands of individuals seeking connection with loved ones who have passed. Her work is often described as compassionate, precise, and life-changing. Website: www.KarynReece.com Howard Storm Howard Storm is an artist, former atheist, and internationally known NDE survivor whose powerful near-death experience led to a complete spiritual transformation. Following his journey, he became a Christian pastor and has since shared his story worldwide, emphasizing love, service, and the reality of the afterlife. His book My Descent Into Death has been endorsed by numerous spiritual thought leaders. Website: www.HowardStorm.com
The Journey Beyond Death continues with Part 16 of its compelling 18-part series and marks the sixth installment in the eight-part segment focused on individuals who have had near-death experiences (NDEs). In this episode, we spotlight three extraordinary guests—Peter Bedard, Karyn Reece, and Howard Storm—each of whom crossed the threshold of life and death and returned with transformative insights that challenge everything we think we know about existence. Peter Bedard was just a teenager when a devastating accident flung him out of his body and into a realm of pure awareness. What he found there—a tunnel of spinning light, a mysterious guide resembling Lao Tzu, and a sense of overwhelming peace—shaped his life's mission. Today, Peter helps others heal emotional wounds through his method, Convergence Healing. Karyn Reece, a gifted psychic medium, shares her emotionally rich near-death experience involving a vibrant, otherworldly meadow and a reunion with passed loved ones. Despite her longing to remain in the afterlife, she was told she had more work to do. Her story touches on soul contracts, multidimensional awareness, and the thin veil between the living and the dead. Howard Storm's account is perhaps the most jarring. A former atheist, Howard describes a terrifying descent into darkness where hostile beings tormented him—until a desperate prayer summoned a radiant presence he identifies as Jesus. Rescued, shown a life review, and filled with divine love, Howard's journey became a spiritual reckoning that altered his path forever. --------------------------------- Featuring in order of appearance: 02:00 – NDE Survivor Peter Bedard 19:20 – NDE Survivor & Psychic Medium Karyn Reece 28:26 – NDE Survivor Howard Storm --------------------------------- Peter Bedard Peter Bedard is an NDE survivor, author, and healing expert who integrates science and spirituality to help people overcome trauma, anxiety, and chronic pain. After a near-death experience in his youth, Peter developed a unique approach to wellness called "Convergence Healing," which focuses on addressing emotional root causes. He is also a trained hypnotherapist and frequent guest speaker on mind-body healing. Website: --------------------------------- Karyn Reece Karyn Reece is a psychic medium and NDE survivor known for her vivid insights into the afterlife and her ability to deliver highly detailed and accurate readings. With over 20 years of experience and numerous television appearances, Karyn has brought comfort and validation to thousands of individuals seeking connection with loved ones who have passed. Her work is often described as compassionate, precise, and life-changing. Website: --------------------------------- Howard Storm Howard Storm is an artist, former atheist, and internationally known NDE survivor whose powerful near-death experience led to a complete spiritual transformation. Following his journey, he became a Christian pastor and has since shared his story worldwide, emphasizing love, service, and the reality of the afterlife. His book My Descent Into Death has been endorsed by numerous spiritual thought leaders. Website:
About Peter: Turn Tragedy Into Triumph and Your Pain Into Your Cure I started my speaking career while on my first vacation in twenty years. I was by myself visiting magical places but I was lonely. I was about to return home one week into my vacation when I placed an ad on a travel website volunteering to teach a class. I gave my first talk in a living room on the island of Mallorca. Since then I have taught and shared my Convergence Healing work in Spain, Turkey, Ireland, and Peru as well as around the USA and on radio and TV globally. Many years prior, my life was changed when I was hit from behind while driving my moped, and slammed into the back of a parked semi truck. My life and leg were shattered. I lost who I was, how I knew to be in the world. I died, went to the other side, had a conversation with God, and got kicked out of Heaven. I actually told God to “f**k off” when I was told I had to leave the only place that, at that time, I felt loved. The doctors were amazing at putting my leg back together but they had no idea what to do for the brain damage, sciatica, arthritis, asthma, bronchitis, anxiety, bone on bone contact, chronic pain, depression, loss of purpose, anguish, grief, fatigue, chronic dehydration, white blood cells attacking red blood cells, and hemoglobin splitting toxicity happening within me. I had to heal myself and despite the arduous recovery process I was able to find healing! I was reclaimed my life and the pain taught me how to move from victim consciousness to wellness. My keynotes focus on transformation, inspiration, and developing health internal relationships while healing everything from addiction to affliction and moving from anxiety into loving action. I enjoy sharing my own experience, and the case studies of hundreds of clients I have worked with, to demonstrate how to get the most out of life and tune into your own intuition and inner healing. To find out more go to www.ConvergenceHealing.com and www.ConvergenceHealingTeas.com Music Credits: Track: Wandering — JayJen [Audio Library Release] Music provided by Audio Library Plus Watch: • Wandering — JayJen | Free Background ... Free Download / Stream: https://alplus.io/wandering FOLLOW Magic Is Real (Host Shannon Torrence) on Instagram: @realmagicshannon If you'd like to support Magic Is Real by becoming a Patreon, here is the link: / magicisreal111 Email me at magicisrealshannon@gmail.com with viewer questions you'd like for me to answer in a YouTube short or to pitch your own story to me for an episode. TO BOOK A MEDIUMSHIP READING WITH ME, just email me! Thank you so much for your love and support! Please like, share, comment, subscribe and spread the word! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/shannon-torrence/support
Thank you Peter Bedard, for sharing your story on The Born To Talk Radio Show Podcast! To start with, Peter is the Creator of Convergence Healing, an author of 2 books, keynote speaker, teacher & hypnotherapist. Peter created Convergence Healing as process to heal himself, both physically, mentally, and spiritually. Now he shares his experiences...
https://www.convergencehealing.com/ Author Peter Bedard steps into a new genrewhile creating a crossover sensation. “Billy and the Anxiety Monster, How toLove Your Anxiety and Heal, A Grown-Up Book for your Inner Child” (BAM) is abook for children, tweens, young adults, adults and their inner child. Peter'sfirst book, “Convergence Healing, Healing Pain with Energetic Love” was abeautiful success and launched a new division of Simon & Schuster undertheir Atria imprint. Peter traveled around the world sharing this book and workin workshops and as a keynote speaker. BAM was written in a children's book stylefor adults, children, tweens, and anyone who may be suffering from anxiety.This simple, clever book takes the reader on a journey with Billy as he learnsto understand and heal his anxiety monster. Peter developed a process forhealing and working through anxiety over many years and he applies this simple,loving, and doable process in the story of Billy.Together, Billy and his therapist, Mr. Pete go on an innerjourney of discovering Billy's anxiety, seeing it in a whole new light,learning to work with it, make it his friend, and transform it into a lovingprotector, guardian, and gift. Q-Anxiety is a terribly overwhelming experience with over 400 million peopleworld wide (and growing) suffering from it; what are the ways you supportpeople to move through it and heal? A-Kindness is the best approach when working with people who are strugglingwith anxiety issues. They often feel embarrassed and are certainly overwhelmed.Listening with kindness, practicing patience, and compassion are essential tohelping them recover. I support people who are experiencing anxiety issues by helping them befriendtheir anxiety; instead of medicating it and shoving it down. I teach my clientshow to redefine their anxiety and work with it to transform it into a lovingguardian and guide. Q - What do you mean when you say, "befriend your anxiety/pain?"You've got to be kidding me! I don't want to be friends with my pain. I want tokick it out. The last thing I want to do is feel it. A - I really mean that we need to make friends with our pain and anxiety. Theseare parts of us that are suffering. They don't need to be beaten up andpunished or shamed. They do need to be loved and loving them is the only waythey are going to heal. The more we avoid these things, the louder they scream.So, you have a choice. You can prolong your pain by shoving it down or you canheal it by being present with it and loving it. QYou've said that beneath every anxiety is a trauma that lies like a ghostwaiting to find its way back home. Why do you say anxiety is a ghost? A-Most anxiety is a ghost. It is something from the past, projected into thefuture. Anxiety is a fear at the core of itself and this fear needs to berecognized, respected, and heard in order to heal. When we sit with theanxiety, we can start to work together with it to find a solution and nextsteps. Q-When did you start addressing anxiety as a monster? A-I started to look at anxiety as a monster when I realized how afraid of it Iwas. I saw it as this abusive and angry presence that wanted to take over anddestroy my life. My clients would talk about how it was ruining their lives butno one was actually addressing the anxiety directly...just talking about it andat it. MORE ABOUT PETER BEDARD: image.pngMr. Peter Bedard MA, C.Ht. Leading Healer and Holistic Health Consultant Expertise: Alternative Health, Healing, Hosting, community activist Peter is all about empowering people with choicesfor healing and educating them about the many possibilities for bringingalternative therapies into their lives. Having survived an astounding five near-death experiencesin his lifetime, learning how to walk (again), and healing himself from anumber of medical conditions over the years, Peter has now turned hisattention to his personal passion for alternative health and healing.
Peter Bedard, M.A., C.HtAuthor of "Convergence Healing- Healing pain with energetic love"."The doctors were able to put the bones back together, but they didn't put my life back together...""Millions of people suffer from some form of chronic pain (whether it be physical, emotional, or existential), and this discomfort silently drains too many of us of our highest potential and our power. Living in a state of unending pain pushes people to the margins of their own lives and robs them of direct access to their most authentic, essential, worthy selves. Pain, ironically, renders too many beautiful voices mute; it cripples the body, leaving too many dancing souls lost. And nobody knows this better than Peter Bedard.One night, seventeen-year-old dancer, Peter Bedard, died in a traffic accident. The white-bearded messenger waiting at the gate of heaven sent him back to Earth with a task to help others heal. After a decade of debilitating physical and emotional suffering, Peter uncovered an empowered, new way of healing chronic pain without medicine—convergence healing. In his groundbreaking approach, Bedard invites us to look at our pain as the greatest source of wisdom we will ever have. Instead of medicating it, trying to break with it, or somehow outwit it, he invites us to surrender to our pain so that we may finally integrate our losses, our transitions, our heartaches, and our mortality and make peace with the everlasting truth of who, uniquely, we truly are.Through the author's own near-death experience and other compelling stories and case studies, Convergence Healing offers a whole new body-mind paradigm for those interested in living a balanced, well-integrated life".Check out www.ConvergenceHealingTeas.com and www.ConvergenceHealing.com for more healing love!Find Peter on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/peter.bedardBuy his book: https://www.amazon.com/Convergence-Healing-Pain-Energetic-Love/dp/1501119524/Photo: Copyright Wilkinson/2022Opening and closing music courtesy the very talented Zakhar Valaha via Pixabay.To contact Wilkinson- email him at BecomingWilkinson@gmail.com
Recovery Month Ontario By proclaiming the month of September as Recovery Month, the Province of Ontario recognizes that people and families across the province often face challenges related to their addictions and mental health but can recover and be treated effectively. While leaders and organizations across the global mental health and addictions sector mark September as Recovery Month, the Governments of Canada and Ontario have yet to proclaim this month to recognize and support Ontarians recovering from addiction. While Ontario continues its battle against opioid use and addictions, Recovery Month will increase public awareness of the types of addictions Ontarians face every day and encourage people to seek help. By proclaiming Recovery Month here in Ontario, individuals and families affected by addiction may begin to realize they are not alone, and that there are many people and organizations willing to help them in their recovery journey. About Minister Tibollo For over 30 years, Michael Tibollo, has been a devoted husband, father, seasoned lawyer, and genuine advocate for the Vaughan-Woodbridge community. Tibollo is currently pursuing a Doctorate of Psychology from the University of Southern California. Among his many accomplishments, Michael Tibollo is a distinguished lawyer with over 30 years of experience. Tibollo is married to Mrs. Silvana Tibollo, and is the proud father to three children. For the last 10 years, Tibollo has also been working and advocating for Caritas, which is a residential, therapeutic community seeking to help those suffering from addictions and mental health. In addition, Michael Tibollo was instrumental in the creation of Italian Heritage Month in Canada. Convergence Healing This is Peter Bedard and I've been reflecting on what an amazing day I just had. I'm so blessed to be in a place in where I can assist people in creating life altering changes in their world and, most importantly, within themselves. You know how impossible it seems to heal at times? How some people live in fear of never being able to heal and end up relying on drugs and surgery to help them survive? Well, that was me. I healed myself of everything from chronic anxiety to arthritis, asthma, fibromyalgia, depression, sciatica, chronic allergies, constant pain, and I died (yup you read that right) and came back to a broken body, a mind trapped in fear, and a broken spirit. If you're still reading then quite possibly you can understand at least some of these things. I've healed from all this and more and I can help you do the same. With a MA in Consciousness Studies and my extensive training in Hypnotherapy I have helped thousands of people find their convergence healing. For over 15 years I have worked with chronic pain (physical, emotional, spiritual). I have an expertise working with anxiety, addiction, and chronic conditions and in healing myself I developed a tried and true process for creating wellness that I've come to call Convergence Healing. "Convergence Healing: Healing Pain with Energetic Love" About the Book: Millions of people suffer from some form of chronic pain (whether it be physical, emotional, or existential), and this discomfort silently drains too many of us of our highest potential and our power. Living in a state of unending pain pushes people to the margins of their own lives and robs them of direct access to their most authentic, essential, worthy selves. Pain, ironically, renders too many beautiful voices mute; it cripples the body, leaving too many dancing souls lost. And nobody knows this better than Peter Bedard. One night, seventeen-year-old dancer, Peter Bedard, died in a traffic accident. The white-bearded messenger waiting at the gate of heaven sent him back to Earth with a task to help others heal. After a decade of debilitating physical and emotional suffering, Peter uncovered an empowered, new way of healing chronic pain without medicine—convergence healing. In his groundbreaking approach, Bedard invites us to look at our pain as the greatest source of wisdom we will ever have. Instead of medicating it, trying to break with it, or somehow outwit it, he invites us to surrender to our pain so that we may finally integrate our losses, our transitions, our heartaches, and our mortality and make peace with the everlasting truth of who, uniquely, we truly are. Through the author's own near-death experience and other compelling stories and case studies, Convergence Healing offers a whole new body-mind paradigm for those interested in living a balanced, well-integrated life. Talk Recovery Radio is powered by New West Recovery, Last Door is a non-profit organization that has been in operation since 1984. www.TalkRecoveryRadio.com If you'd like to learn more about our work and approach, get in touch with us online or by phone at: Website: https://lastdoor.org/ Email: info@lastdoor.org Help line: 1-855-465-2851
This week on The Witching Hour, Good Witch Patti Negri features the wonderful Peter Bedard. Peter is a hypnotherapist, Entrepreneur, and Holistic Health Coach. He specializes in chronic pain, disease, addiction, and anxiety. Peter helps people create a strategy for healing and creating wellness from within! #PattiNegri #Healing #Tea
Our guest this week, Peter Bedard knows a thing or two about healing. In fact, Peter has healed himself of everything from chronic anxiety to arthritis, asthma, fibromyalgia, depression, sciatica, and he's died before and come back to a body wracked in pain, a mind trapped in fear, and a spirit broken. Peter has developed a tried and true process for creating your own path to wellness ... Convergence Healing ... which he shares on this episode. We all have pain (physical, emotional, etc...) that needs healing and here are practical steps for how you can start your healing process. You can learn more about Peter at: www.ConvergenceHealing.com and find his book, "Convergence Healing, Healing Pain with Energetic Love" published by Enliven Books/Simon & Schuster on Amazon, Kindle, and at your neighborhood bookstore as well as the audio book through Amazon, Audible, and iTunes. #fireandearthpodcast #healing
E35 Healing Ourselves to Become Whole, Perfect and Complete with Peter Bedard Our guest this week, Peter Bedard knows a thing or two about healing. In fact, Peter has healed himself of everything from chronic anxiety to arthritis, asthma, fibromyalgia, depression, sciatica, and he's died before and come back to a body wracked in pain, a mind trapped in fear, and a spirit broken. Peter has developed a tried and true process for creating your own path to wellness ... Convergence Healing ... which he shares on this episode. We all have pain (physical, emotional, etc...) that needs healing and here are practical steps for how you can start your healing process. You can learn more about Peter at: www.ConvergenceHealing.com and find his book, "Convergence Healing, Healing Pain with Energetic Love" published by Enliven Books/Simon & Schuster on Amazon, Kindle, and at your neighborhood bookstore as well as the audio book through Amazon, Audible, and iTunes.
E40 How to Turn Your Pain into Your Gain with Peter Bedard We are joined again by our good friend Peter Bedard to discuss how we can turn our pain into our gain. We talk about empathy, The Law of Knowing, and how to realize we are whole, perfect and complete and don't need to be "fixed." This episode is full of "aha" moments and epiphanies, so check it out and see how you can start your healing today and turn your pain into your gain. You can learn more about Peter at: www.ConvergenceHealing.com and find his book, "Convergence Healing, Healing Pain with Energetic Love" published by Enliven Books/Simon & Schuster on Amazon, Kindle, and at your neighborhood bookstore as well as the audio book through Amazon, Audible, and iTunes. Peter's newest book "How to Turn Your Pain into Your Gain" is set to release later this year. This is a practical book to help you take action now. He is currently giving away a PDF version of his new book for FREE on his website: www.ConvergenceHealing.com. Sign up for his newsletter and get a PDF copy of this newest book before it's published later this fall.
We are joined again by our good friend Peter Bedard to discuss how we can turn our pain into our gain. We talk about empathy, The Law of Knowing, and how to realize we are whole, perfect and complete and don't need to be "fixed." This episode is full of "aha" moments and epiphanies, so check it out and see how you can start your healing today and turn your pain into your gain. You can learn more about Peter at: www.ConvergenceHealing.com and find his book, "Convergence Healing, Healing Pain with Energetic Love" published by Enliven Books/Simon & Schuster on Amazon, Kindle, and at your neighborhood bookstore as well as the audio book through Amazon, Audible, and iTunes. Peter's newest book "How to Turn Your Pain into Your Gain" is set to release later this year. This is a practical book to help you take action now. He is currently giving away a PDF version of his new book for FREE on his website: www.ConvergenceHealing.com. Sign up for his newsletter and get a PDF copy of this newest book before it's published later this fall. #fireandearthpodcast #healing #pain
Our guest this week, Peter Bedard knows a thing or two about healing. In fact, Peter has healed himself of everything from chronic anxiety to arthritis, asthma, fibromyalgia, depression, sciatica, and he's died before and come back to a body wracked in pain, a mind trapped in fear, and a spirit broken. Peter has developed a tried and true process for creating your own path to wellness ... Convergence Healing ... which he shares on this episode. We all have pain (physical, emotional, etc...) that needs healing and here are practical steps for how you can start your healing process. You can learn more about Peter at: www.ConvergenceHealing.com and find his book, "Convergence Healing, Healing Pain with Energetic Love" published by Enliven Books/Simon & Schuster on Amazon, Kindle, and at your neighborhood bookstore as well as the audio book through Amazon, Audible, and iTunes. #fireandearthpodcast #healing
Episode #50: Peter Bedard, Alternative Therapist, Consultant, Author. Join me this week to welcome Peter Bedard, brilliant Alternative Therapist. In his lively and enthusiastic way, he shares his journey after a near-death experience, through living in severe physical, emotional, and spiritual pain, to the vibrantly healthy person we see today. He discovered that the anger and frustration he felt because of his injuries were not only keeping him in pain, but were waiting to teach him the greatest gifts of his life. He is now a celebrated author, consultant, international speaker, and healer who helps thousands of people to live a life of full potential, of balanced living, pain free. Check out his first book, “Convergence Healing”. For his upcoming events and private practice, contact Peter at: http://www.ConvergenceHealing.com.
In this episode of Making Life Brighter Radio, Winifred sits down with Hypnotherapist and Healer, Peter Bedard, to discuss his amazing new book. Convergence Healing: Healing Pain With Energetic Love Find out how Peter helps his clients who are suffering and why they come away with a new understanding of themselves and their lives. Use his proven techniques to find more balance and acceptance of yourself. Don't miss this edition of Making Life Brighter Radio with Peter Bedard! www.makinglifebrighter.com/radio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Host Cyrus Webb welcomes author Peter Bedard to #ConversationsLIVE to discuss his new book CONVERGENCE HEALING.
Hypnotherapist, teacher and author of Convergence Healing: Healing Pain with Energetic Love Peter Bedard talks to us about the time that he died and came back to life, as well as what Convergence Healing means and he has healed himself and so many others of their pain.
With a Master of Arts Degree in Consciousness Studies and his extensive training in Hypnotherapy and alternative health, Peter Bedard has helped thousands of people overcome pain and the fearful shadow it has cast over their lives. Peter has a thriving one-on-one private practice in Los Angeles, California and he gives talks and workshops around the world. His new book is entitled, “Convergence Healing: Healing Pain with Energetic Love.” Peter invites us to look at our pain as the greatest source of wisdom we will ever have. Today, we welcome Peter Bedard to the America Meditating Radio Show! Visit http://convergencehealing.com. Youtube video: https://youtu.be/5Af_mFs-7Qc Get the Off the Grid Into the Heart CD by Sister Jenna. Like America Meditating, Visit us at the Meditation Museum & Download our free Pause for Peace App for Apple or Android.
Peter Bedard - Author of Convergence Healing - With an MA in Consciousness Studies and his extensive training in Hypnotherapy and alternative health, Peter has helped thousands of people overcome pain and the fearful shadow it has cast over their lives. Peter has a thriving one-on-one private practice and he gives talks and workshops around the world. He lives in Los Angeles, California.
Peter Bedard - Author of Convergence Healing - With an MA in Consciousness Studies and his extensive training in Hypnotherapy and alternative health, Peter has helped thousands of people overcome pain and the fearful shadow it has cast over their lives. Peter has a thriving one-on-one private practice and he gives talks and workshops around the world. He lives in Los Angeles, California.
Peter Bedard - Author of Convergence Healing - With an MA in Consciousness Studies and his extensive training in Hypnotherapy and alternative health, Peter has helped thousands of people overcome pain and the fearful shadow it has cast over their lives. Peter has a thriving one-on-one private practice and he gives talks and workshops around the world. He lives in Los Angeles, California.
Peter Bedard - Author of Convergence Healing - With an MA in Consciousness Studies and his extensive training in Hypnotherapy and alternative health, Peter has helped thousands of people overcome pain and the fearful shadow it has cast over their lives. Peter has a thriving one-on-one private practice and he gives talks and workshops around the world. He lives in Los Angeles, California.