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In this podcast episode, David E. Fitch, a theologian and author, discusses his book "Reckoning with Power." The episode focuses on the transformation of power in ministry, advocating for a Jesus-centered approach to authority. Fitch critiques the misuse of Christian power in cultural and political contexts, emphasizing the need for a shift towards godly power.The conversation also covers critical topics like critical race theory, the evolution of pastoral leadership, and the impact of aligning Christianity with political figures. Fitch highlights the importance of preaching in shaping the Christian community and calls for a church that actively addresses societal issues. The episode concludes with a message of hope for disenchanted Christians, suggesting the formation of intimate, Christ-centered communities for spiritual renewal.Buy the book: https://a.co/d/dCdEoP9Bio:David E. Fitch (PhD, Northwestern University) is the B. R. Lindner Chair of Evangelical Theology at Northern Seminary. He is also the founding pastor of Life on the Vine Christian Community, a missional church in the northwest suburbs of Chicago. He is the author of Faithful Presence, The Great Giveaway and The End of Evangelicalism? and is the coauthor of Prodigal Christianity. Fitch coaches a network of church plants in the Christian and Missionary Alliance and he writes, speaks, and lectures on issues the local church must face in mission including cultural engagement, leadership, and theology. He has also written numerous articles in periodicals such as Christianity Today, The Other Journal, Missiology, as well as various academic journals.Support the showTo learn more about the show, contact our hosts, or recommend future guests, click on the links below: Website: https://www.faithfulpoliticspodcast.com/ Faithful Host: Josh@faithfulpoliticspodcast.com Political Host: Will@faithfulpoliticspodcast.com Twitter: @FaithfulPolitik Instagram: faithful_politics Facebook: FaithfulPoliticsPodcast LinkedIn: faithfulpolitics
In this episode, we look at what it looks like to be a faithful presence in the community. How has God become present to us, and how can we then create a "safe space" for others to inhabit? Matthew talks about a recent book he's read called "Faithful Presence" by David E. Fitch.The Everyday Spaces podcast is a production of The Jesus Following Network, a missional community in Big Lake, Minnesota devoted to community transformation and making disciples who learn to say, "Yes" to Jesus. Visit our website for more information.
On episode 10, I'm joined by Geoff Holsclaw and Rose Swetman to discuss Rick Joyner's recent "prophecy" on mobilizing people for civil war (Newsweek put out an article on this: https://bit.ly/2FDmSEr). Geoff Holsclaw (PhD, Marquette University) is copastor of youth and families at Vineyard North, as well as affiliate professor of theology at Northern Seminary in Lisle, Illinois. Pick up a copy of his latest book, co-authored with his wife Cyd, "Does God Really Like me?" (https://amzn.to/2X4dKP1) as well as "Prodigal Christianity" (https://amzn.to/2Aa0fEA), co-authored with David E. Fitch. If you really want to get crazy, get his "Transcending Subjects: Augustine, Hegel, and Theology" (https://amzn.to/3elbk4j). Rose Swetman and her husband, Rich, co-founded The Practicing Church in Shoreline, Washington. She is the founder of Turning Point, a missional group that partners with local agencies to serve low-income families in the greater Seattle area. She is the Regional Leader in the Northwest Region of Vineyard USA. Rose obtained her Doctor of Ministry from Bakke Graduate University in Seattle, Washington focused on Transformational Leadership for the Global City. She currently is an adjunct professor at The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology. Rose and Rich have a blended family of 8 children, spouses and over 22 grandchildren.
On episode 9, Geoff Holsclaw and I discuss a YouTube clip where Ricky Gervais and Stephen Colbert discuss atheism and Ricky introduces a couple of arguments for his atheism (https://youtu.be/P5ZOwNK6n9U). Geoff Holsclaw (PhD, Marquette University) is copastor of youth and families at Vineyard North, as well as affiliate professor of theology at Northern Seminary in Lisle, Illinois. Pick up a copy of his latest book, co-authored with his wife Cyd, "Does God Really Like me?" (https://amzn.to/2X4dKP1) as well as "Prodigal Christianity" (https://amzn.to/2Aa0fEA), co-authored with David E. Fitch. If you really want to get crazy, get his "Transcending Subjects: Augustine, Hegel, and Theology" (https://amzn.to/3elbk4j).
Dr. Geoff Holsclaw took over the Sacramental Charismatic! Thankfully I was able to jump in and participate in his hostile takeover in order to discuss what a sacramental charismatic approach ends up meaning! Geoff Holsclaw (PhD, Marquette University) is copastor of youth and families at Vineyard North, as well as affiliate professor of theology at Northern Seminary in Lisle, Illinois. Pick up a copy of his latest book, co-authored with his wife Cyd, Does God Really Like me? (https://amzn.to/2X4dKP1) as well as "Prodigal Christianity" (https://amzn.to/2Aa0fEA), co-authored with David E. Fitch. If you really want to get crazy, get his Transcending Subjects: Augustine, Hegel, and Theology (https://amzn.to/3elbk4j). Also, check out Paul Anleitner's podcast here: https://deeptalkstheologypodcast.podbean.com/
On episode 5, I sit down with my friend, Geoff Holsclaw, to discuss a number of topics around being a "sacramental charismatic," spiritual formation, and theology in general. Geoff Holsclaw (PhD, Marquette University) is co-pastor of youth and families at Vineyard North, as well as affiliate professor of theology at Northern Seminary in Lisle, Illinois. Pick up a copy of his latest book, co-authored with his wife Cyd, "Does God Really Like me?" (https://amzn.to/2X4dKP1) as well as "Prodigal Christianity" (https://amzn.to/2Aa0fEA), co-authored with David E. Fitch. If you really want to get crazy, get his "Transcending Subjects: Augustine, Hegel, and Theology" (https://amzn.to/3elbk4j).
This week, Josh and Marty sit down with David E. Fitch to discuss his latest book 'The Church of Us vs. Them: Freedom from a Faith That Feeds on Making Enemies.' David (PhD, Northwestern University) is the B. R. Linder Chair of Evangelical Theology at Northern Seminary and the cofounder of Missio Alliance. David leads the boys in a very timely and important conversation about his book. The Church is in danger, and Fitch gives a way for the church to be true to itself, breaking down the antagonisms of today and making space for Christ's reconciling presence in our daily lives. He offers new patterns and practices that move the Church beyond the 'enemy-making machine' to being the presence of Christ in the world. Join the conversation and lets work together to free ourselves from a faith that feeds on division. You don't want to miss this one! Get the Book Here: The Church of Us Vs Them Theology on Mission Podcast: CLICK HERE Follow David on Twitter: @fitchest
We constantly, can't help it it seems, point fingers at everyone else...latching onto what we can use to throw stones at one another. David E. Fitch and I discuss what the church could look like if we didn't. Guest Bio: David E. Fitch (PhD, Northwestern University) is the B. R. Lindner Chair of Evangelical Theology at Northern Seminary and the cofounder of Missio Alliance. He is the founding pastor of Life on the Vine Christian Community, a missional church in the northwest suburbs of Chicago, and is currently on the pastoral staff at Peace of Christ Church in Westmont, Illinois. Fitch writes and speaks extensively about issues facing the church. He has written for Christianity Today, Outreach, and Catalyst and is the author of numerous books, including Faithful Presence and The Great Giveaway. Music this week by Derek Myers: Tracks: Tidal Wave, Fill Me (Overflow), Made to Be Loved, and Overcome You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Transcript for today's episode
Individual ideologies and theologies give us incomplete pictures of reality. The world is too complex. No Ideology or theology can explain everything. Every ideology and every theology overlooks or misses something. There is always something that resists symbolization. This is the view of Slovenian philosopher Slovoj Zizek who I have accessed primarily through a book called “The End of Evangelicalism? Discerning a New Faithfulness for Mission Towards an Evangelical Political Theology” by David E. Fitch. An “irruption of the real” occurs when someone takes the beliefs and tenets of his or her faith or ideology to the extreme. Jesus did this when he put his life on the line because he believed that the one and all-powerful God of Israel would save him, overthrow the rulers and authorities of this world, redeem and restore Israel to its rightful place among the nations, and take dominion over the world (Mark 14:62 and 15:34). The truth is suddenly revealed often in a humiliating fashion so that people are forced to confront the fact that what they thought would happen, what they believed, didn’t come to pass, at least not as they expected. This is the story of the Gospels. The disciples expect the Messiah to be a victorious king who would defeat Israel’s enemies (Mark 10:37). Something amazing did happen, but it wasn’t what they expected. That something was the resurrection and the rise of the Jesus movement. Not all “irruptions of the Real” are victorious as the resurrection. Most end in humiliation and the reexamination and reformulation of one’s beliefs. Without the resurrection, Jesus’s ministry would have ended the same way, another prophet and martyr killed by the authorities (Mark 15:34). But that’s not what happened. Some of Jesus’s followers, including Peter and James, had visions of Jesus after his death (1 Corinthians 15:5). This led them to believe that God had raised Jesus from the dead. On this show, we examine Fitch’s concept of an “irruption of the Real” and apply it to the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth. We will talk about Zizek’s concepts of “master signifiers” and “sublime objects” and the role they play in motivating us to organize around ideologies and beliefs. Fitch, an Evangelical himself, uses Zizek to demonstrate how some Evangelical beliefs became disconnected from what they meant generations ago and now fail to serve God’s mission in the world. https://modernlectionaries.blogspot.com/2019/04/irruption-of-real-resurecton-of-jesus.html
Business disruptors. Sports disruptors. How about Church disruptors? The story is told of a pastor who, while preaching, noticed his son chewing gum. He is said to have stopped the sermon and instructed his son, “Paul, go spit out your gum!” It Will Take More Than Gum More than … Continue reading The post Disruptor(s) Needed: A Conversation with The Alan Noble appeared first on patheological: The Podcast for the Pastor-Theologian. Related posts: The Circles of Faithful Presence: An(other) Interview with David E. Fitch Community Witness Diagnosing the Current Normal of the Church: An Interview with Tom Ingram
Just four years ago it was reported, “that 1500 pastors leave the ministry for good each month due to burnout or contention in their churches.” What is a pastor to do just five years in when he or she realizes there already exists lessons from failure? Not Much … Continue reading The post Pastors Fail? A Conversation with Taylor Mertins appeared first on patheological: The Podcast for the Pastor-Theologian. Related posts: Pastors Search For . . . : A Conversation with Marty Duren Still Making Sense of Church: An Interview with Spencer Burke The Circles of Faithful Presence: An(other) Interview with David E. Fitch
The idols we create become burdens too heavy to bear. Scott Curry references Walter Brueggemann on Isaiah 46 to point out the caricatures we create for God become the idols in our heads that let us down when suffering comes. Not Speculative Suffering comes. When we least expect it. … Continue reading The post This Is Uz: A Conversation with Scott Curry appeared first on patheological: The Podcast for the Pastor-Theologian. Related posts: The Circles of Faithful Presence: An(other) Interview with David E. Fitch Black Olive or Green Olive, What Color Was Jesus?: An Interview with Adam Clark The Greatest Spiritual Discipline: An Interview with Philip Nation
Former President of the Baptist General Convention of Oklahoma and Trustee with the International Mission Board of the Southern Baptist Convention, Wade Burleson is not currently involved in denominational politics. Church, community and family take up his time. If my memory serves me correctly I served on the Nominating … Continue reading The post Reading Dead People, Leading Life Giving Community: An Interview with Wade Burleson appeared first on patheological: The Podcast for the Pastor-Theologian. Related posts: The Circles of Faithful Presence: An(other) Interview with David E. Fitch Community Witness Shame – The Big Gulp of Shut Up Juice: An Interview with Steve Austin
Practical Theology is theology from below. That is, practical theology is rooted in reflections about God's activity in the world in real time. Eugene Peterson reminds, “Matter is real. Flesh is good. Without firm rooting in creation, religion is always drifting off into some kind of pious sentimentalism … Continue reading The post The Circles of Faithful Presence: An(other) Interview with David E. Fitch appeared first on patheological: The Podcast for the Pastor-Theologian. Related posts: The Greatest Spiritual Discipline: An Interview with Philip Nation Perhaps, Facebook Exposes Original Sin and the Need for a Missional Quest Disabilities and The Church of the First: An Interview with Nathaniel Welch
*Originally Posted at MissioAlliance.org David E. Fitch (PhD, Northwestern University) is the B. R. Lindner Chair of Evangelical Theology at Northern Seminary. He is also the founding pastor of Life on the Vine Christian Community, a missional church in the northwest suburbs of Chicago. He is the author of The Great Giveaway and The End […]
Welcome to e-merg, a global conversation on the future church that is emerging now.Our theme is the emerging church in the United States. I am joined by Aaron Flores, who recently published his Master's thesis, "An Exploration of the Emerging Church in the United States," on the internet.Aaron speaks about his research on 200 emerging churches. At his blog, the Voiz, he uses videocasts to look back at his faith journey via pentecostal and Catholic routes. He talks about how Canvas church relates to Orange County, California. The Southern California Cohort that Aaron co-directs recently hosted Ryan Bolger, who compared emerging churches in the United States and Britain. We briefly discuss the relevance of "network" as a feature of emerging churches, using a diagram from Steve Collins' blog, Small Ritual.Aaron recommends the book "The Great Giveaway" (2006) by David E. Fitch.SummaryTheme: emerging churches in the United States.Guest: Aaron Flores.Book: "An Exploration of the Emerging Church in the United States."Blog: The Voiz.Event: SoCal Cohort's meeting with Ryan Bolger.Community: Canvas Evangelical Covenant Church, Santa Ana, California.Music:Fractal Edge's "Here I am," theme music from Spirit of the New, Jonnys in the Basement, available from proost.co.uk.