Ephesiology [n. ih·fē·zē·äləʒē]: The Study of a Movement

In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew Johnson shares an update as the podcast enters a short hiatus. While the hosts are away on assignment, Andrew invites you to revisit the rich archive of over 200 episodes—conversations that continue to challenge, encourage, and shape how we do theology in community. Looking ahead to 2026, he offers a glimpse of what's coming next: renewed dialogue, fresh voices, and deeper explorations at the intersection of archaeology, mission, and the movement of God in the world. Connect With Us Follow Ephesiology: Website | Twitter | Instagram | YouTube Follow Andrew Johnson @thediscfan.bsky.social If this episode encouraged you, please leave a review and share it with others exploring missional living in post-Christian contexts. Thanks for doing theology in community with us today! If you have a question or topic that you'd like to hear addressed on the Ephesiology Podcast, just send it to Andrew at thediscfan@gmail.com. Donate Find the podcast on your favorite podcast app Just search for “Ephesiology” Our Podcasters Michael CooperProfessor | Missiologist | AuthorMichael is the missiologist in residence with East West where he focuses on equipping and empowering church leaders in evangelism, discipleship, leadership, and catalyzing church planting movements in the most difficult to reach places on the planet. He is the author of Ephesiology: The Study of the Ephesian Movement as well as many other books and academic articles. He has lectured at universities around the world and serves as affiliate faculty at Kairos University where he facilitates the degree programs in partnership with Ephesiology Master Classes.Andrew JohnsonMinistry Lead, West Village ChurchAndrew is a proud husband, father and pastor who desires all to know the one true King. He is honored to serve at West Village Church in Victoria, BC. Previously, he's ministered in Houston, Chicago, Indy, Flagstaff and Tempe in a variety of church contexts. Andrew has a BA in Christian Ministry from Trinity International University and an MA from Phoenix Seminary. He is currently a Doctor of Ministry student at Kairos University and is the co-host of the Ephesiology Podcast. When not at work, he's an avid disc golfing, vinyl playing, Spider-Man following/collecting fellow. Go Pacers. Do you enjoy the Ephesiology Podcast? Partner with the Pod The Ephesiology Podcast comes to you from a desire to engage in community conversations about the intersection of theology and culture. We do not believe such dialogue should come with a cost so the podcast will always be free. However, if you've benefited from the Ephesiology Podcast, would you consider a nominal $5 per month donation? All proceeds from the podcast go toward helping bring needed theological education to the majority world through our Ephesiology Master Class initiative to end a theological famine. We'd be honored to partner with you to continue providing solid biblical, theological, and missiological content for listeners around the world. Donate Empowering Future Church Leaders Imagine a world where passionate, equipped Christian leaders spread God's Word in areas with the greatest need—leaders grounded in both deep theology and practical ministry skills, trained to make a lasting impact in their communities. Through your support, this vision can become a reality for students from countries like Malawi, Tanzania, Kenya, Nepal, and India who are eager to teach and multiply disciple-makers in their own regions. Learn More Ephesiology: A Study of the Ephesian Movement If you want to understand principles for the growth of Christianity in the first century, the place to begin is the city of Ephesus. In this winsome study, Ephesiology offers readers a comprehensive view of the empowering work of the Holy Spirit in the most significant city of the New Testament, and compels us to ask the question: how can we effectively connect Christ to our culture? “Masterfully handling the book of Ephesians and using its content as a definitive guide, Michael Cooper lays a theologically strong foundation that is both corrective and directive to disciple making movements. The principles he gleans from the book of Ephesians and related texts, help to ensure the on-going multiplication and maturation of a movement. Because these are supra-cultural principles, they are applicable anywhere in the world.” Marvin J. Newell, Staff Missiologist, Missio Nexus, Author of Crossing Cultures in Scripture Buy This Now! Educating to Shift the Tracks of History To shift the tracks of history requires leaders who are equipped to critically assess and engage the contours of contemporary culture. As a new initiative in collaboration with the Movement Leaders Collective, Kairos University, and Ephesiology, we deliver just-in-time theological education focused on issues important to you, mxAcademy is designed as the theological and missiological foundation to unlock your potential as a movement leader and catalytic thinker. mxAcademy is a dynamic and innovative educational experience rooted in mDNA.We dream of a church fully equipped, fully mature, fully mobilized, and fully alive. A church that lives and breathes the Good News of Jesus! Learn More Join a Community Conversation at Ephesiology Master Classes Areopagus Symposium Taking its inspiration from the historical and philosophical legacy of Athens, Greece, the Areopagus Symposium focuses on intellectual and philosophical topics related to Christology, missiology, and ecclesiology. We invite scholars, theologians, and practitioners from diverse backgrounds to engage in a profound exploration of the theological landscape at the intersection of these vital disciplines. Sign up for an Ephesiology Master Classes account and gain free access to the Areopagus Symposium. Check it out! The Ephesiology Podcast and Ephesiology Master Classes are ministries of TELOS.GO, a registered 501c3 non-profit agency committed to imaginatively missional ways of engageing culture, church planting, and theological education. Your donation to the podcast is tax deductible.

In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew Johnson, Michael, and guest Lance Ford delve into the themes of church leadership, the disconnect between leadership and the body of Christ, and the systemic issues that plague modern church structures. They discuss the impact of Lance’s book, ‘The Atlas Factor,’ which emphasizes the need for a shift in leadership paradigms, focusing on Jesus as the head of the church rather than human leaders. The conversation also addresses the prevalence of spiritual abuse, the importance of vision and mission in church leadership, and the necessity for systemic change to foster healthier church environments. Lance shares insights on how to navigate leadership challenges, differentiate between bad leadership and narcissism, and the role of the church in addressing these issues. The episode concludes with a call to center on Jesus and the hope for restoration within the church community. Keywords church leadership, Atlas Factor, spiritual abuse, church movement, leadership structures, restoration, community engagement, Jesus, church health Sound bites “It’s the system, stupid.” “We need to start in our seminaries.” “Jesus is our hero. He is our savior.” Takeaways The church’s leadership structure often disconnects from Jesus as the head. Lance’s book, ‘The Atlas Factor,’ emphasizes shifting leadership focus. Spiritual abuse is prevalent in many church contexts. Leadership systems need to be reformed for healthier church environments. The importance of vision and mission in church leadership cannot be overstated. Staff members often feel oppressed and manipulated in their roles. Differentiating between bad leadership and narcissism is crucial. A systemic change is necessary for true church reform. The church must engage in community and address leadership issues. Hope for restoration lies in centering on Jesus.  Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Ephesiology Podcast 02:45 The Atlas Factor: Leadership in the Church 05:35 Misalignment in Church Leadership Structures 08:49 The Disconnect Between Leadership and the Body of Christ 11:47 The Role of Vision and Mission in the Church 14:26 The Impact of Leadership Models on Church Growth 17:31 Understanding Spiritual Abuse in Church Leadership 20:36 The Consequences of Management Systems in the Church 24:45 The Dark Side of Church Leadership 26:17 Navigating Abuse in Church Settings 34:30 The Role of Systems in Church Leadership 41:06 Building a New Church Leadership Model 47:18 The Future of Church Leadership Education Connect With Us Follow Ephesiology: Website | Twitter | Instagram | YouTube Follow Andrew Johnson  @thediscfan.bsky.social If this episode encouraged you, please leave a review and share it with others exploring missional living in post-Christian contexts. Thanks for doing theology in community with us today! If you have a question or topic that you'd like to hear addressed on the Ephesiology Podcast, just send it to Andrew at thediscfan@gmail.com. Donate Find the podcast on your favorite podcast app Just search for “Ephesiology” Our Podcasters Michael CooperProfessor | Missiologist | AuthorMichael is the missiologist in residence with East West where he focuses on equipping and empowering church leaders in evangelism, discipleship, leadership, and catalyzing church planting movements in the most difficult to reach places on the planet. He is the author of Ephesiology: The Study of the Ephesian Movement as well as many other books and academic articles. He has lectured at universities around the world and serves as affiliate faculty at Kairos University where he facilitates the degree programs in partnership with Ephesiology Master Classes.Andrew JohnsonMinistry Lead, West Village ChurchAndrew is a proud husband, father and pastor who desires all to know the one true King. He is honored to serve at West Village Church in Victoria, BC. Previously, he's ministered in Houston, Chicago, Indy, Flagstaff and Tempe in a variety of church contexts. Andrew has a BA in Christian Ministry from Trinity International University and an MA from Phoenix Seminary. He is currently a Doctor of Ministry student at Kairos University and is the co-host of the Ephesiology Podcast. When not at work, he's an avid disc golfing, vinyl playing, Spider-Man following/collecting fellow. Go Pacers. Do you enjoy the Ephesiology Podcast? Partner with the Pod The Ephesiology Podcast comes to you from a desire to engage in community conversations about the intersection of theology and culture. We do not believe such dialogue should come with a cost so the podcast will always be free. However, if you've benefited from the Ephesiology Podcast, would you consider a nominal $5 per month donation? All proceeds from the podcast go toward helping bring needed theological education to the majority world through our Ephesiology Master Class initiative to end a theological famine. We'd be honored to partner with you to continue providing solid biblical, theological, and missiological content for listeners around the world. Donate Empowering Future Church Leaders Imagine a world where passionate, equipped Christian leaders spread God's Word in areas with the greatest need—leaders grounded in both deep theology and practical ministry skills, trained to make a lasting impact in their communities. Through your support, this vision can become a reality for students from countries like Malawi, Tanzania, Kenya, Nepal, and India who are eager to teach and multiply disciple-makers in their own regions. Learn More Ephesiology: A Study of the Ephesian Movement If you want to understand principles for the growth of Christianity in the first century, the place to begin is the city of Ephesus. In this winsome study, Ephesiology offers readers a comprehensive view of the empowering work of the Holy Spirit in the most significant city of the New Testament, and compels us to ask the question: how can we effectively connect Christ to our culture? “Masterfully handling the book of Ephesians and using its content as a definitive guide, Michael Cooper lays a theologically strong foundation that is both corrective and directive to disciple making movements. The principles he gleans from the book of Ephesians and related texts, help to ensure the on-going multiplication and maturation of a movement. Because these are supra-cultural principles, they are applicable anywhere in the world.” Marvin J. Newell, Staff Missiologist, Missio Nexus, Author of Crossing Cultures in Scripture Buy This Now! Educating to Shift the Tracks of History To shift the tracks of history requires leaders who are equipped to critically assess and engage the contours of contemporary culture. As a new initiative in collaboration with the Movement Leaders Collective, Kairos University, and Ephesiology, we deliver just-in-time theological education focused on issues important to you, mxAcademy is designed as the theological and missiological foundation to unlock your potential as a movement leader and catalytic thinker. mxAcademy is a dynamic and innovative educational experience rooted in mDNA.We dream of a church fully equipped, fully mature, fully mobilized, and fully alive. A church that lives and breathes the Good News of Jesus! Learn More Join a Community Conversation at Ephesiology Master Classes Areopagus Symposium Taking its inspiration from the historical and philosophical legacy of Athens, Greece, the Areopagus Symposium focuses on intellectual and philosophical topics related to Christology, missiology, and ecclesiology. We invite scholars, theologians, and practitioners from diverse backgrounds to engage in a profound exploration of the theological landscape at the intersection of these vital disciplines. Sign up for an Ephesiology Master Classes account and gain free access to the Areopagus Symposium. Check it out! The Ephesiology Podcast and Ephesiology Master Classes are ministries of TELOS.GO, a registered 501c3 non-profit agency committed to imaginatively missional ways of engageing culture, church planting, and theological education. Your donation to the podcast is tax deductible.

In this episode of the Ephesiology podcast, Andrew, Michael, and Matt are visited again by Mark Thiessen Nation, exploring the profound impact of Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s life and writings on contemporary Christianity. In this episode, our hosts talk to Mark about the dangers of nationalism within the church. They discuss the importance of robust discipleship, the role of the church in society, and the need for a theopolitical perspective that prioritizes Christ’s teachings over national identity. Mark emphasizes the significance of community, holistic faith, and the challenges faced by Christians today in navigating cultural and political landscapes. Keywords Bonhoeffer, Christianity, nationalism, discipleship, Americanism, church, theology, peace, gospel Takeaways Mark Thiessen Nation emphasizes the importance of understanding Bonhoeffer’s life and work in the context of contemporary issues. Bonhoeffer’s writings provide a framework for understanding the dangers of nationalism in Christianity. Thin Christianity can lead to manipulation by political ideologies, highlighting the need for a robust faith. The church must engage with society while remaining rooted in Christ’s teachings. Discipleship involves a commitment to community and serious theological education. Mark’s academic journey reflects a deep engagement with Bonhoeffer’s thought and its relevance today. The parallels between Germanism and Americanism raise important questions about national identity and faith. Bonhoeffer’s response to the Nazi regime serves as a model for contemporary Christians facing moral dilemmas. A holistic Christian faith integrates worship, community, and social responsibility. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Mark Thiessen Nation 02:42 Mark’s Personal Journey and Musical Influences 05:29 The Impact of Bonhoeffer on Mark’s Life 08:25 Exploring Bonhoeffer’s Theology and Pacifism 10:55 Mark’s Academic Journey with Bonhoeffer 13:50 The Rise of Nazism and Its Implications 16:49 Comparing Germanism and Americanism 19:18 Understanding Nazism and Its Context 22:19 The Dangers of Nationalism in Faith 25:22 Conclusion and Reflections on Faith and Politics 29:18 The Church as a Servant in Culture 34:36 Understanding Thin Christianity 40:55 Bonhoeffer’s Vision for Theological Education 49:00 Navigating Americanism and the Gospel 53:05 Polemical Parallels in Faith Connect With Us Follow Ephesiology: Website | Twitter | Instagram | YouTube Follow Andrew Johnson @thediscfan.bsky.social If this episode encouraged you, please leave a review and share it with others exploring missional living in post-Christian contexts. Thanks for doing theology in community with us today! If you have a question or topic that you'd like to hear addressed on the Ephesiology Podcast, just send it to Andrew at thediscfan@gmail.com. Donate Find the podcast on your favorite podcast app Just search for “Ephesiology” Our Podcasters Michael CooperProfessor | Missiologist | AuthorMichael is the missiologist in residence with East West where he focuses on equipping and empowering church leaders in evangelism, discipleship, leadership, and catalyzing church planting movements in the most difficult to reach places on the planet. He is the author of Ephesiology: The Study of the Ephesian Movement as well as many other books and academic articles. He has lectured at universities around the world and serves as affiliate faculty at Kairos University where he facilitates the degree programs in partnership with Ephesiology Master Classes.Andrew JohnsonMinistry Lead, West Village ChurchAndrew is a proud husband, father and pastor who desires all to know the one true King. He is honored to serve at West Village Church in Victoria, BC. Previously, he's ministered in Houston, Chicago, Indy, Flagstaff and Tempe in a variety of church contexts. Andrew has a BA in Christian Ministry from Trinity International University and an MA from Phoenix Seminary. He is currently a Doctor of Ministry student at Kairos University and is the co-host of the Ephesiology Podcast. When not at work, he's an avid disc golfing, vinyl playing, Spider-Man following/collecting fellow. Go Pacers. Do you enjoy the Ephesiology Podcast? Partner with the Pod The Ephesiology Podcast comes to you from a desire to engage in community conversations about the intersection of theology and culture. We do not believe such dialogue should come with a cost so the podcast will always be free. However, if you've benefited from the Ephesiology Podcast, would you consider a nominal $5 per month donation? All proceeds from the podcast go toward helping bring needed theological education to the majority world through our Ephesiology Master Class initiative to end a theological famine. We'd be honored to partner with you to continue providing solid biblical, theological, and missiological content for listeners around the world. Donate Empowering Future Seminary Professors Imagine a world where passionate, equipped Christian leaders spread God's Word in areas with the greatest need—leaders grounded in both deep theology and practical ministry skills, trained to make a lasting impact in their communities. Through your support, this vision can become a reality for students from countries like Malawi, Tanzania, Kenya, Nepal, and India who are eager to teach and multiply disciple-makers in their own regions. Learn More Ephesiology: A Study of the Ephesian Movement If you want to understand principles for the growth of Christianity in the first century, the place to begin is the city of Ephesus. In this winsome study, Ephesiology offers readers a comprehensive view of the empowering work of the Holy Spirit in the most significant city of the New Testament, and compels us to ask the question: how can we effectively connect Christ to our culture? “Masterfully handling the book of Ephesians and using its content as a definitive guide, Michael Cooper lays a theologically strong foundation that is both corrective and directive to disciple making movements. The principles he gleans from the book of Ephesians and related texts, help to ensure the on-going multiplication and maturation of a movement. Because these are supra-cultural principles, they are applicable anywhere in the world.” Marvin J. Newell, Staff Missiologist, Missio Nexus, Author of Crossing Cultures in Scripture Buy This Now! Educating to Shift the Tracks of History To shift the tracks of history requires leaders who are equipped to critically assess and engage the contours of contemporary culture. As a new initiative in collaboration with the Movement Leaders Collective, Kairos University, and Ephesiology, we deliver just-in-time theological education focused on issues important to you, mxAcademy is designed as the theological and missiological foundation to unlock your potential as a movement leader and catalytic thinker. mxAcademy is a dynamic and innovative educational experience rooted in mDNA.We dream of a church fully equipped, fully mature, fully mobilized, and fully alive. A church that lives and breathes the Good News of Jesus! Learn More Join a Community Conversation at Ephesiology Master Classes Areopagus Symposium Taking its inspiration from the historical and philosophical legacy of Athens, Greece, the Areopagus Symposium focuses on intellectual and philosophical topics related to Christology, missiology, and ecclesiology. We invite scholars, theologians, and practitioners from diverse backgrounds to engage in a profound exploration of the theological landscape at the intersection of these vital disciplines. Sign up for an Ephesiology Master Classes account and gain free access to the Areopagus Symposium. Check it out! The Ephesiology Podcast and Ephesiology Master Classes are ministries of TELOS.GO, a registered 501c3 non-profit agency committed to imaginatively missional ways of engageing culture, church planting, and theological education. Your donation to the podcast is tax deductible.

In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew Johnson, Michael, and Matt Till engage with Dr. Steve Bezner, exploring the implications of Bonhoeffer's theology for contemporary church leadership. They discuss the importance of maintaining a distinct Christian identity in a politically charged environment, the role of pastors in shepherding their congregations, and the need for … Continue reading "Episode 214: Bonhoeffer the Pastor with Steve Bezner"

In this episode of the Ephesiology podcast, Andrew, Matt, and Michael welcome Watson Jones III, an executive pastor in Chicago, to discuss the current climate of shepherding in the city. They explore the challenges faced by the church in light of social issues, the historical context of the church's role in society, and the shifts … Continue reading "Episode 213: Ministering in Chicago with Watson Jones III"

In this episode of the Ephesiology podcast, Andrew, Michael, and Matt engage with Dr. Wes Watkins to explore the dynamics of church movements, the importance of understanding movements in a contemporary context, and the integration of Motus Dei with Missio Dei. They discuss the characteristics of movements, the role of the Holy Spirit, and the … Continue reading "Episode 212: Reactivating the Church as Movement"

In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, Dr. Ralph Korner discusses the concept of ekklesia, its historical context, and its implications for the modern church. He emphasizes the importance of community, social justice, and the church's role in society, arguing against a separatist mentality and advocating for active engagement with the world. The conversation explores … Continue reading "Episode 211: Rethinking Ekklesia with Dr. Ralph Korner"

In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew, Matt, and Michael engage in a deep conversation with Mark Thiessen Nation about the life and works of Dietrich Bonhoeffer. They explore Bonhoeffer's stance on pacifism, the influence of Eberhard Bethge, and the misrepresentation of Bonhoeffer in popular media. The discussion delves into the complexities of Bonhoeffer's … Continue reading "Episode 210: Unpacking Bonhoeffer's Legacy with Mark Thiessen Nation"

In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew, Michael, and Matt discuss the rise of end times predictions, particularly through social media platforms like TikTok. They explore the implications of these predictions, the historical context of prophecy, and the importance of focusing on Jesus' mission rather than sensationalism. The conversation also touches on the dangers … Continue reading "Episode 209: We're Still Here"

In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, the hosts discuss the recent tragedy involving Charlie Kirk and the broader implications of gun violence in America. They explore the intersection of faith, politics, and violence, reflecting on the Christian response to such tragedies. The conversation emphasizes the need for love, justice, and a departure from divisive … Continue reading "Episode 208: Christian Response to Tragedy"

In this episode of the Ephesiology podcast, hosts Andrew and Michael welcome back Matt Till as he takes on a new role focused on social justice and community engagement. The conversation explores the importance of integrating social justice into the church's mission, reflecting on its historical significance within evangelicalism. Matt shares his personal journey and … Continue reading "Episode 207: Welcome Back Matt!"

On this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, we mark a milestone of change, transition, and reflection. Michael and Andrew reunite—this time from across international borders—as Andrew shares the exciting news of his move from Houston, Texas to Victoria, British Columbia. Hear the backstory behind his new pastoral role at West Village Church, a Soma-affiliated community passionate about … Continue reading "Episode 206: Where in the World is Andrew?"

On this episode of The 10-Minute Ephesiologist, Dr. Michael T. Cooper dives into the moment when movement gives way to rest—and when productivity in ministry gives rise to the deeper call of theological formation. After four years of relentless church planting in post-communist Romania, with seven churches launched and national leaders in place, Michael and Loré sensed … Continue reading "Episode 205: The 10-Minute Ephesiologist"

In this compelling episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, we continue our Archaeology Meets Missiology series with a deep dive into Tel Dan—one of Israel's most significant archaeological sites. Dr. Jonathan Greer, archaeologist and biblical scholar, joins Andrew and Michael to discuss what the material record of Tel Dan reveals about ancient Israelite worship, the North-South … Continue reading "Episode 204: Bronze Age Worship with Dr. Jonathan Greer"

What if an ancient inscription could confirm a biblical figure's existence—or even affirm the earliest Christian belief in Jesus as God? In this powerful of the Ephesiology Podcast, Michael and Andrew welcome field archaeologist Dr. Titus Kennedy to explore the intersections of archaeology and Scripture. From unearthing altars and human remains to discovering a seal … Continue reading "Episode 203: Digging into the Faith with Dr. Titus Kennedy"

After nearly four decades of research and patient anticipation, biblical scholar Dr. Clint Arnold joins the Ephesiology Podcast to reflect on his life's work in the ancient city of Colossae—a city long buried but rich in theological relevance. In this fascinating episode, Dr. Arnold shares the backstory behind his groundbreaking scholarship on Colossians and Ephesians, … Continue reading "Episode 202: A Look at Colossae and Colossians with Dr. Clinton Arnold"

What happens when ancient roads, buried ruins, and early Christian communities collide with the modern missionary imagination? In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, Dr. Mark Wilson—renowned scholar and director of the Asia Minor Research Center—joins Michael and Andrew for a captivating journey where archaeology meets missiology. From walking the same Roman roads as the … Continue reading "Episode 201: The Roman Roads with Dr. Mark Wilson"

Welcome to the 200th episode of the Ephesiology Podcast and our series Christ in Your Context, where we explore why Jesus is good news—right where you are. In this milestone conversation, we're joined by theologian, pastor, and cultural exegete Dr. David E. Fitch. Together, we unpack the complex cultural moment we inhabit and why presence—not programs—may … Continue reading "Episode 200: Presence Based Witness with David E. Fitch"

On this episode of The Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael are joined by Brad Brisco, missional strategist and leading voice in co-vocational church planting. Brad shares insights from decades of experience mobilizing church planters, and why the growing reality of co-vocational leadership is not just a necessity—but a strategic, theological return to how the early church engaged in mission. From … Continue reading "Episode 199: Covocational Missionary Living with Brad Brisco"

Is AI helping us flourish as humans—or quietly unraveling the very things that make us human in the first place? In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, ethicist and cultural commentator Dr. C. Ben Mitchell joins Michael and Andrew for a deeply reflective conversation on artificial intelligence, ethics, embodiment, and what it means to bear God's … Continue reading "Episode 198: Grappling with Artificial Intelligence with C. Ben Mitchell"

On this episode of The Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael talk with Dr. Danny Hays, Professor Emeritus of Biblical Studies at Ouachita Baptist University and expert in Old Testament and archaeology. They explore the fascinating world of early Christian graffiti, focusing particularly on the Ichthus Christogram—an eight-spoked symbol etched into ancient marble as a bold declaration of … Continue reading "Episode 197: Christograms and Christian Graffiti with Dr. Daniel Hays"

On this episode of The Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael talk with Dr. Mark Fairchild, retired professor of Bible and Religion at Huntington University and renowned biblical archaeologist. They explore one of the most fascinating discoveries in early Christian history: the underwater basilica of Nicaea. Together, they unpack the rich spiritual and historical significance of ancient … Continue reading "Episode 196: The Underwater Bascilica with Dr. Mark Fairchild"

On this episode of The Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael sit down Dr. Emanuel Prinz—researcher, author, practitioner, professor, and soon-to-be PhD in International Theological Education. With stories of rebel leaders laying down their weapons and whole villages turning to Christ, Emanuel invites us into a world where communal conversion, catalytic leadership, and the slow work of … Continue reading "Episode 195: What Actually Starts Movements with Emanuel Prinz"

On this episode of The Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael dive into the soil, stones, and stories of Asia Minor to uncover how the early church lived out its faith amid empire, beauty, and persecution. Join us as we welcome guests Michelle Wegner, Dave Brunelle, and Wade Mantlo—fellow travelers who recently returned from a transformative archaeological … Continue reading "Episode 194: Researching Missiology and Archaeology"

On this episode of The Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael sit down with church planter and missional leader Chris Synesael to discuss what it means to plant churches in one of the most secular cities in Canada—Victoria, British Columbia. Chris shares his journey from planting a Soma church in the suburbs to moving into an urban … Continue reading "Episode 192: Planting Churches in Post-Christian Canada with Chris Synesael"

On this episode of The Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael are joined by Kathy Richards Bhatia, Regional Director for the Middle East and North Africa at She Is Safe. Kathy shares her extraordinary journey—growing up in the Middle East, witnessing war firsthand, and carrying on her family's legacy of peace and presence among the world's most marginalized. … Continue reading "Episode 193: Good News for the Vulnerable with Kathy Richards Bhatia"

On this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael are joined again by Pastor Caleb Campbell, author of Disarming Leviathan: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor as they discuss what it means to be the Church in a moment of extreme political and cultural division? Together, they wrestle with the pastoral challenges of shepherding congregations split … Continue reading "Episode 191: Caleb Campbell is Back"

As The Ephesiology Podcast kicks off its 2025 season, we find ourselves reflecting on an unexpected journey—190 episodes deep into conversations about theology, culture, and the mission of God. What started as a simple idea to explore the themes of Ephesiology has evolved into a global dialogue, connecting like-minded thinkers, pastors, and missiologists who long to see the church … Continue reading "Episode 190: Season 2025 Begins!"

Merry Christmas and Happy Advent! In this final Ephesiology Podcast episode of 2024, Andrew and Michael reflect on the joy and meaning of the Christmas season, share highlights from the year—including the Make Disciples series, the success of the PhD Scholarship Drive, and exciting updates like a forthcoming Spanish translation of Ephesiology—and offer a glimpse into 2025 plans, including new … Continue reading "Episode 189: Christmas 2024"

On this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael are stepping into something truly transformative: an opportunity to empower global theological education. Michael returns from an exciting research trip to Asia Minor, sharing insights about the early church while introducing an unprecedented initiative—providing scholarships for PhD students in the Majority World to equip and raise … Continue reading "Episode 188: Empowering Global Leaders"

On this episode of The 10-Minute Ephesiologist, Dr. Michael T. Cooper unpacks the challenges missionaries face when theological education feels too academic or even pride-inducing, leaving them unprepared for real-world ministry. Dr. Cooper proposes a new, balanced approach to training—one that blends intellectual depth with practical skills and a humble heart for service. Could this model … Continue reading "Episode 187: The 10-Minute Ephesiologist"

In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael conclude a multi-part series entitled This Political Moment with author and pastor Caleb Campbell. His recent book, Disarming Leviathan, discusses the complexities of Christian nationalism. Caleb shares the journey behind his book, opening up about his struggle with cultural polarization within his church and the relational … Continue reading "Episode 186: Caleb Campbell's Disarming Leviathan"

In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael continue a multi-part series entitled This Political Moment by exploring the kingdom of God and its political implications. We are joined once more by retired missionary Dr. Ron Hesselgrave and missionary Jim Baker for the final discussion in the series . Together, they explore Patrick … Continue reading "Episode 185: The Way of the Lion and the Lamb"

In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael continue a multi-part series This Political Moment by exploring of the kingdom of God and its political implications. Joined again by Dr. Ron Hesselgrave and Jim Baker, the discussion takes a deep dive into Patrick Schreiner's Political Gospel: Public Witness in a Politically Crazy World. … Continue reading "Episode 184: Reimagining Politics with the Early Church"

In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael continue a multi-part series This Political Moment by exploring of the kingdom of God and its political implications. Kicking off with a discussion on “Reimagining Politics with Jesus” they are joined by guests Dr. Ron Hesselgrave and Jim Baker, veteran missionaries and scholars. Their conversation … Continue reading "Episode 183: Reimagining Politics with Jesus"

On this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael are joined by special guest Steve Besner, senior pastor of Houston Northwest Church. Steve's insights on how the church can navigate today's divisive political landscape are both timely and profound. He shares his motivation behind his recent book Your Jesus is Too American, exploring how … Continue reading "Episode 182: Your Jesus is too American"

On this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, we dive into the complexity of engaging with politics while keeping our focus on Jesus and His mission. Join Andrew and Michael as they introduce a new series focusing on why, despite the overwhelming political climate, the church must resist being swayed by culture. Expect thought-provoking discussions on … Continue reading "Episode 181: This [Un?]political Moment"

On this Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael wrap up our 12-week series Innovative Disruption: Recalibrating Our Mission to the Movement of God. This final episode explores the culmination of our journey—redefining how we think about mission by starting with God's mission on moving to people. We'll unpack the importance of remaining curious about what God is doing … Continue reading "Episode 180: The Practical"

On this Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael conclude the discussion on the concept of adaptive ecclesiology by exploring how the early church adapted to various cultural contexts while preserving its core meaning. Join us as we examine the crucial distinction between form and meaning, and how adapting the church to different cultures can help it … Continue reading "Episode 179: Adaptive Ecclesiology"

On this Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael dive more deeply into adaptive ecclesiology, discussing how the Church can mirror Christ in every culture. We'll explore how the early Church adapted to its cultural contexts—and what that means for us today. Stay with us as we unpack how churches can move from captive methodologies to adaptive, … Continue reading "Episode 178: More Ecclesiology"

On this Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael begin to explore the concept of adaptive ecclesiology, challenging the traditional view of the church as a static institution. They dive into how the early church, rooted in the teachings of Jesus, adapted to different cultural contexts, showing that the true essence of the ekklesia is the gathering … Continue reading "Episode 177: Ecclesiology – Introduction"

On this Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michae lcontinue our journey through the series Innovative Disruption: Recalibrating Our Mission to the Movement of God. In this eighth episode, Michael and Andrew delve into the final part of missiological theology.They discuss the evolving nature of theology, shaped by cultural contexts and the need for curiosity, wonder, and discovery … Continue reading "Episode 176: Missiological Theology, Part 3"

On this Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael delve deeper into missiological theology, which integrates Biblical, systematic, and historical theologies to understand how scriptural principles apply in today's cultural context. This approach isn't about creating a new theology but viewing historic concepts through a missiological lens to ensure they resonate with contemporary culture in meaningful language. … Continue reading "Episode 175: Missiological Theology, Part 2"

On this Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael explore the concept of missiological theology, emphasizing its distinction from biblical, systematic, and historical theologies. They discuss how missiological theology applies a mission-focused lens to scripture, theology, and church practice, and how it adapts to different cultural contexts. The conversation highlights the early church's role in developing theology … Continue reading "Episode 174: Missiological Theology, Part 1"

On this Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael delve into the foundational importance of Christology within the context of innovative disruption. Emphasizing a return to understanding who Jesus is and how He defines Himself, they explore the implications of Christological clarity for mission and ecclesiology. Drawing from biblical texts and theological reflection, they discuss how a … Continue reading "Episode 173: The Christology of our Mission"

On this Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael continue emphasizing how important it is for us to understand Jesus primarily from who He describes Himself to be. Unpacking the paradigm of Christiology-Missiology-Ecclesiology, our podcasters discuss how our view of Jesus informs the manner in which we engage the world and what His people look like as … Continue reading "Episode 172: Jesus, Mission, Church"

On this Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael continue to discuss what a reorientation to Jesus looks like. While John the apostle describes Jesus in awesome language in Revelation 1, Jesus uses the same language to introduce Himself to the seven churches. So, not only does Jesus encourage John with the words, “Fear not, I am … Continue reading "Episode 171: Reorient to Jesus, Part II"

On this Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael discuss what a reorientation to Jesus looks like. Of primary importance is seeing Jesus for who He is right at this moment. They look at the penchant of the first disciples for creating Jesus in their image. Then, by focusing on the only book in the Bible that … Continue reading "Episode 170: Reorient to Jesus"

On this Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael introduce a 10 week series focused on innovative disruption. In this introduction to the series, our podcasters discuss what exactly they mean by disruption as they begin to lead us to think innovatively about what we learn from the early Christ-followers. Meaningful innovation begins with reorienting to Jesus. … Continue reading "Episode 169: Innovative Disruption"

On this Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael catch up after recent travels to South Asia, the Middle East, and Europe. Among other topics, Michael shares about the significance of archaeology for the study of the New Testament movement and invites listeners to join him on an upcoming research trip to Asia Minor. Learn more about … Continue reading "Episode 168: The Church Then & Now"

On this Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael are joined by Jeff Christopherson, again. Jeff updates us on the reception of his book, Once You See: Seven Temptations of the Western Church. He gives us more of the context and birth of the book which came out of his interactions with 1600 churches during COVID. To … Continue reading "Episode 167: Jeff Christopherson, Again"