Podcast appearances and mentions of katherine ketcham

“Why don't you call me Miss O'Dell?” We're back after a short break! From the Beatles to the Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, ELO, Santana, and all the bands in between, she saw it all. She's the woman in the hall in Joni Mitchell's' Coyote, Leon Russel's Pisces Apple Lady, the blonde seated next to Yoko and Maureen on the rooftop, and Layla's bestie. Chris O'Dell was one of rock-and-roll's first female tour managers and put in the work to keep all these boys out of trouble…for the most part! Hear all about Miss O'Dell on this episode of the Dolls Podcast, available wherever you stream your podcasts

In this episode, which originally aired in radio format on November 3rd, 2022, I explore some of the ideas presented in Part One of "The Spirituality of Imperfection," first published in 1992. We humans are imperfect for a reason; our task as spiritual beings is not to strive for perfection, but to learn how to live with its opposite. In this episode I also talk about my wholly (holy?) imperfect experience regarding a certain Chevy Nova 2. The obsession returned! 

Mike Bassett, a trial lawyer, author, podcaster, friend, and genuinely solid dude, joins Kevin and Stewart in the studio this week for a great hour or so of story telling around being in the ditch and how inflection moments if your life sometimes bring forward a full gamut of life's experiences.  We talk about finding Jesus in the front of the boat, mentorship and friendships, life's lessons from trying almost 200 cases, and a few funny stories along the way.We hope you enjoy chatting with our friend Mike.// Show Notes // The Man in The Ditch: A Redemption Story for Today, by Mike Bassetthttps://amzn.to/3TahMzKThe 7 Habits of Highly Effective People: Powerful Lessons in Personal Change, by Stephen R. Coveyhttps://amzn.to/3MhDgYY The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck: A Counterintuitive Approach to Living a Good Life, by Mark Mansonhttps://amzn.to/3CU3e1XThinking, Fast and Slow, by Daniel Kahnemanhttps://amzn.to/3TbwFl0The Second Mountain: How People Move from the Prison of Self to the Joy of Commitment, by David Brookshttps://amzn.to/3T5A3xWFrom Strength to Strength: Finding Success, Happiness, and Deep Purpose in the Second Half of Life, by Arthur C. Brookshttps://amzn.to/3CMMcCNThe Spirituality of Imperfection: Storytelling and the Search for Meaning, by Katherine Ketcham and Ernest Kurtz https://amzn.to/3fTD3iCRagamuffin Gospel, by Brennan Manning https://amzn.to/3VdW3IQThe Cilantro Diaries: Business Lessons from the Most Unlikely Places, by Lorenzo Gomez IIIhttps://amzn.to/3Vekypl

In this edition of The Way Out I'm incredibly honored to bring you an exceptionally powerful, illuminating, relatable, and inspiring interview with person in long term recovery and co-founder of WorkIT Health, Lisa McLaughlin. Lisa and I had a lot in common coming of age in the same era in the Midwest of the U.S., albeit in different cities proper, which made for one of the most entertaining interviews I've personally done, and for that matter one of the best we've ever had on The Way Out in quite some time. Lisa shares with us her journey to and through recovery to this point with remarkable insight, introspection, and relatability that's at once revealing and instructive to our own individual recovery journeys. What's more, Lisa shares the collective experiences that motivated her to found Workit Health along with cofounder Robin McIntosh, which is a telemedicine care service focused on treating Substance Use Disorder that offers a wide range of services including harm reduction, medication assisted recovery, CBT, and mental health services to address all of the needs of the human being that is seeking care. So many of us in Recovery can relate to the agonizing experience of the death of a loved due to Substance Use Disorder, and Lisa is no exception. Their mission is embodied by a phrase she shares with us in the interview, “We do what we do for the lost, to the living”. Together, Lisa and Robin decided that they were going to do something about it by creating Workit Health to address the gaps in the existing model of care for Substance Use Disorder and bring all established methodologies and interventions to bear through a single, low barrier, source. Lisa and I have a captivating discussion about the importance of embracing all pathways to recovery and recovering out loud as she shares her amazing recovery journey, all the while spreading the message that rewarding and enduring recovery is absolutely possible and totally worth it when you workit so listen up. More about Workit Health: https://www.workithealth.com/ Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) recommendations: The Spirituality of Imperfection by Ernest Kurtz and Katherine Ketcham: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/96307/the-spirituality-of-imperfection-by-ernest-kurtz-and-katherine-ketcham/ Growth Mindset book by Carol S. Dweck: https://www.amazon.com/Mindset-Psychology-Carol-S-Dweck/dp/0345472322 Best piece of recovery advice - You're only as sick as your secrets Song - Eye of the Tiger by Survivor: https://youtu.be/btPJPFnesV4 (c) 2015 - 2022 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/the-way-out-podcast/message

Are you changing or evolving? Learn the difference from the original “Evolution of Dance” performer and international speaker Judson Laipply. He takes us on his journey and into our own journeys of evolving in our lives.   * You are invited to join our community and conversations about each episode on FaceBook at https://www.facebook.com/MutuallyAmazingPodcast and join us on Twitter @CenterRespect or visit our website at http://www.MutuallyAmazingPodcast.com**     Judson’s BIO: Judson Laipply M.Ed., CSP, is an enigma wrapped in an anomaly contained inside a quandary. Which means he’s not easy to describe. Combining comedy and content, Judson has been speaking and training audiences all over the world for the last 20 years. He’s been seen on the Today Show, Ellen, GMA, Oprah and more. He is the world’s first YouTube Celebrity as his “Evolution of Dance” video was the first video to ever hit 100 million views and has well over 1 billion impressions. He is a husband, an Ironman Triathlete, and an avid Cleveland sports fan.   Links to Judson: www.judsonlaipply.com   Books Judson recommends: Illusion of the Reluctant Messiah - Richard Bach Way of the Peaceful Warrior - Dan Milman The Spirituality of Imperfection - Ernest Kurtz and Katherine Ketcham   YOUR HOST: Mike Domitrz is the founder of The Center for Respect where he helps educational institutions, the US Military and businesses of all sizes create a culture of respect throughout their organizations. From addressing consent to helping corporations build a workplace free from fear (reducing sexual harassment and helping employees thrive by treating them with respect every day), Domitrz engages audiences by sharing skill sets they can implement into their lives immediately. As an author, trainer, keynote speaker and coach, Mike Domitrz loves working with leaders at all levels. Learn more at http://www.CenterForRespect.com

A blind old man lived in the country with his wife, and they enjoyed each other’s company and their lives together. One day, while the man was sitting by the river, Elijah saw him there and decided to give him one wish. Unsure of what to wish for, the man took some time to think about it. He asked his wife and his friends for advice, but wasn’t satisfied with their ideas. What did he finally decide? Jerry Kaye retells the story. You can find a written version of this story in Experiencing Spirituality: Finding Meaning Through Storytelling by Ernest Kurtz and Katherine Ketcham.

“Addiction takes over everything… it’s this brain disease that affects individuals and changes their whole view of life and their whole view of relationships.” ~ Katherine Ketcham The Only Life I Could Save is Katherine Ketcham’s seventeenth book; she has co-authored sixteen others, ten of which are on the subject of addiction and recovery. For years she worked with kids in a Juvenile Detention Center, but when addiction lands in her own family, nothing she learned from the kids in “juvie” seemed to help. From the flyleaf: “This book is a raw and moving memoir of heartbreak, healing and profound transformation; … of what Katherine deems the most important lessons of faith, hope, acceptance, and forgiveness.” This podcast introduces you to a very brave woman, a brave family, and a son who continues to lead and inspire them all. You can find Katherine at www.katherineketchambooks.com or ketchak@gmail.com

An old, blind man lived in the country with his wife, and they enjoyed each other’s company and their lives together. One day, while the man was sitting by the river, Elijah saw him there and decided to give him one wish. Unsure of what to wish for, the man took some time to think about it. He asked his wife and his friends for advice, but wasn’t satisfied with their ideas. What did he finally decide? Jerry Kaye retells the story. You can find a written version of this story in Experiencing Spirituality: Finding Meaning Through Storytelling by Ernest Kurtz and Katherine Ketcham.

Amanda, with 19 months since her last drink, shares her story   Why we drink:   Alcohol is everywhere. Drinking appears to be the norm.  We are bombarded with alcohol advertisements 67 times a day.  Our society has a love affair with booze. We have a genetic make-up to become addicted to alcohol. Our environment is flooded with alcohol. We think everything we do should be accompanied by alcohol. Alcohol is a highly addicted drug. We have shitty coping skills.   Not on the list of why we drink: a moral failing or a weakness of character   SHOW NOTES   [ 7:45 ] Paul Introduces Amanda.  How long have you been sober?   Amanda – I have been sober for 19 months.  This is the longest I have ever been sober.  I feel very proud of myself.   [ 8:51 ]  What is your background?   Amanda – I am from Mississippi but now live in Florida with my 15 year old daughter.   [ 10:27 ] Did you ever try to put rules in place to moderate your drinking?   Amanda – I started drinking when I was 16 so there were no rules in the beginning.  I was that sloppy drunk girl in the room.  I would start watching the clock for 5:00 which meant it was time to drink.   [ 12:34 ] When did you first realize that you had a problem?   Amanda – In 2010, one bad thing after another happened to me.  I was put in jail for domestic violence.  I was so ashamed of not being able to control myself with alcohol.  I felt that I was a strong person since I had raised my daughter alone.  I did not want to appear weak and vulnerable.   [ 14:26 ] Amanda and Paul discuss the stigma of addiction.   Amanda – I had twin cousins who died because of alcohol.  Their memory and my daughter were the only reasons why I didn’t commit suicide myself.  I felt like no one cared about me so why should I care about myself?   [ 16:01 ] How did you get sober?   Amanda – I did not use AA.  I went to a rehab that taught the 12 steps but after I was released, there was no support.  No one called or checked on me.  My parents had basically just dropped me off at rehab.  I still drank for 4 years and then turned to meth.  I finally decided that I was either going to die or go back to jail.  I moved to another state but was still hanging out with the same type of people.  I knew I needed to give up booze so I started looking for something else to do.  This led me to find a group of people who were into mud runs.  I got into fitness.   [ 21:42 ] Amanda and Paul discuss her days in rehab and her personal development.   Amanda – I did not feel like anything had changed after my 60 days in rehab.  Afterward I started looking into motivational development.  Someone told me that I was born with a purpose.  Everyone has the power to help others.  I was under the false assumption that life was going to be a piece of cake.  I joined a personal development community (Breather University).  The people in this group accepted me and my life has completely changed.  I am Amanda and I am amazing!  I am not a part of sobriety groups because I hate the alcoholic label.  What you say about yourself is what you are.   [ 33:36 ]  What is your pump up song?   Paul – Limp Bizkit, “Nookie” (Life is an opportunity, not an obligation). Amanda – Jason Aldean, “Gonna Know We Were Here” (Self-affirmations are super important to me).                          [ 34:08 ]  What is your relationship like with your daughter?   Amanda – We have had to rebuild our relationship.  She lived with my parents for the last 6 months that I was using.  She moved in with me when I went to Florida.  There has been a lot of growing and we have had to push through the hard times.   [ 36:50 ]  What is a typical day like for you?   Amanda – I say positive affirmations to myself every day.  I list 3 things that I am grateful for every day.  I try to exercise, read or watch personal development videos every day.     [ 39:09  ] Rapid Fire Round What was your worst memory from drinking? getting knocked out by a big guy I had tried to beat up Did you ever have an “oh-shit” moment? jail What’s your plan moving forward? sharing my story to give others hope What’s the best advice you’ve ever received (on sobriety)? everything that you go through, isn’t always about you What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? life is beautiful, fill your void with goodness You might be an alcoholic if….. you duct tape 2 beers to your hands so that you do not lose them   Resources mentioned in this episode: Recovery Elevator Retreat Connect with Cafe RE- Use the promo code Elevator for your first month free Sobriety Tracker iTunes Sobriety Tracker Android Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com Amanda U-Tube videos – Patched Wangs Book “Beyond the Influence,” by Katherine Ketcham     “We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!”  

Erik, with 67 days since his last drink, shares his story…. What exactly is alcohol and how is it created?  According to the book, Beyond the Influence, by Katherine Ketcham, the basic ingredient of alcohol is yeast.  Let’s just call it what it is; yeast dung to be exact.  The yeast eventually dies off during the fermenting process leaving alcohol in its’ basic form, which is ethanol.  That’s right folks!  We have been consuming the same ingredient that is used in lacquer and dyes.  Once we drink, the alcohol quickly passes through our cell membranes and enters the blood stream.  Depending on our age, gender, or whether or not we have eaten, etc., alcohol affects us all differently.  Beyond just the physically changes, alcohol also affects our emotional state.  It has been known to exacerbate anxiety, stress and fatigue by triggering the body to release adrenaline artificially.  No wonder those hang overs are so awful!   SHOW NOTES   [ 10:44 ] Paul Introduces Erik and asks when was his last drink?   Erik – 67 days ago and it feels good on most days   [ 11:13 ] Erik tell us a little about himself.   Erik – I am 31 years old and currently live in Dallas.  I play and teach music and also enjoy cooking and exercise.   [ 13:42 ] When did you realize you had a problem with drinking?   Erik – After graduating from college, consequences started happening.  I had crashed a few cars and received a few DWI’s.   [ 15:11 ] Did you ever try to implement rules in order to moderate your drinking?   Erik – I was not real great at even putting rules into place.  But I had an interlock (breathalyzer) put on my car and would try to moderate so that I could still start the car.  One time I blew over the limit 3 times.  I was more of a binge drinker.  Once I started, I could not stop drinking.   [ 17:24 ] After your probation ended, you started drinking again.  What happened?   Erik – When you are on probation, I think mentally you are just waiting for the time to be over.  Once it is over, you can drink again.  I continued to drink for 2-3 years without suffering any real consequences.   [ 19:00 ]  Did your drinking progress or remain the same?   Erik – It progressed and I started driving when I shouldn’t be again.  I also started experiencing episodes of anger and rage, which was completely uncharacteristic of me.   [ 20:45 ]  Erik shares a recent story of a wedding he attended.   Erik – I was running late for a wedding in which I was a groomsman.  My mind made this a much bigger deal than it actually was so when I finally arrived, I headed straight to the bar.  I stumbled to the service and was late for the photo shoot.  I continued to drink and my mood kept deteriorating.  After the wedding was over, I went to the after party and eventually blacked out.  When I came to, I was in the middle of a brawl with a friend.  I was very disappointed in myself and was worried that I had destroyed some friendships.   [ 27:45 ] How did you get to 67 days without drinking?   Erik – I had worked the AA program many years ago and basically got re-plugged in.  I reached out to some previous people that I knew in the program, started going to meetings and got a sponsor.   [ 31:00 ]  Paul and Erik discuss the gift of desperation   Erik – My last drinking memory was that wedding I attended.  I am not sure if I can fix the damage that I did to some of those relationships.  I do not want that last memory to define me.   [ 32:00 ] What is your plan moving forward?   Erik – I will continue to work my program, meditate and go to meetings.  I would also like to start my own life now, by moving out of my parent’s house and getting back on track.   [ 33:33  ] Rapid Fire Round What was your worst memory from drinking? wrecking 3 cars, being in jail and having to call my parents Did you ever have an “oh-shit” moment? One night I was playing a show in Dallas.  I knew I should not have driven home but I did it anyway What’s your favorite resource in recovery? AA meetings, listening to podcasts and reading. What’s the best advice you’ve ever received (on sobriety)? Recovery is a process.  Stay busy with projects and fill in that time that you would normally drink with different things to do. You might be an alcoholic if…. You use a blood alcohol calculator (BAC) in order to get past your car interlock ****Congratulations to our very own Brandy for reaching 1 year of sobriety**** Resources mentioned in this episode: Books – Beyond the Influence by Katherine Ketcham and Living Sober by AA Connect with Cafe RE- Use the promo code Elevator for your first month free Sobriety Tracker iTunes Sobriety Tracker Android Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com     “We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!”

“Too much shame and silence surround addiction. Burwell’s terrific memoir will move dialogue forward on one of the top health problems of our time.” — Greg Williams, director of The Anonymous People“Exquisitely detailed, this book chronicles the tortuous journey to recovery for both addicted individuals and all those who love and care for them.” — Katherine Ketcham, coauthor of Broken and Teens Under the Influence

Can wisdom be taught? With countless books claiming to outline the path to spiritual enlightenment, it is tempting to believe that wisdom can be attained by following a few simple steps. Shedding light on such human experiences as humor, confusion, virtue, sin, wonder and forgiveness, illuminating the importance of human experience for spiritual growth, those who came before us discovered many of the most important truths about being human, and, having learned them, passed them along in stories. We can learn much from the stories of spiritual masters who reach us and teach us through the example of human experience.