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Polite Conversations host and leading Intellectual Dark Web scholar Eiynah, a/k/a @NiceMangos, joins us to scrape the bottom of the IDW barrel. Gad Saad, who is now a National Post columnist, is a marketing professor who fashions himself as an expert in the defence of Western Civilization. He wrote a piece in the Post about how happy conservatives are, in which he informs the reader that he is very much not mad about the woke left.Plugs & Recs (The Rinse)Listen to Jeremy on Polite Conversations, part 1Listen to Jeremy on Polite Conversations, part 2Pre-order Jeremy's book, KenneyismEiynah's Woking Up seriesCheck out UnriggedThe Hoser's Grocery TrackerIf you enjoyed this episode make sure to leave us a five star review on Apple Podcasts, and give us a follow on Twitter and Instagram. For more Big Shiny Takes, sign up to our bonus feed here.If you enjoyed this episode make sure to leave us a five star review on Apple Podcasts, and give us a follow on Twitter and Instagram. For more Big Shiny Takes, sign up to our bonus feed here.
*CW - discussion of sexual harassment and assault* In this episode I talked to Eiynah Nicemangos, host of the podcast Polite Conversations. Eiynah has been podcasting for a long time and does high quality work around the far right and the so-called intellectual dark web. Her series debunking and calling out Sam Harris for his bigotry is some of my favorite content covering Sam and the people like him. In this chat we talk about some stuff that happened adjacent to my old online community, the atheist community. There are some reactions to being called out that were truly shitty and there were some allegations of supposed progressive guys that came out a little while ago that exposed some hypocrisy among the men who claimed to be progressive. In some ways this may appear to be a drama episode but that isn't the intent. People with privilege have to be more aware of and more thoughtful about the ways they behave even when the consequences could be potentially harmful to them. Here are some links for things we talked aboutNew Atheism and the far right https://www.salon.com/2021/06/05/how-the-new-atheists-merged-with-the-far-right-a-story-of-intellectual-grift-and-abject-surrender/ https://soundcloud.com/politeconversations/newatheism https://twitter.com/nicemangos/status/1406646731933167619?s=21 https://soundcloud.com/politeconversations/panel-24-defending-new-atheism-maybe-just-dont-pt-1 https://soundcloud.com/politeconversations/panel-24-defending-new-atheism-maybe-just-dont-pt-2 Andrew Torrez allegations https://religionnews.com/2023/02/01/american-atheists-board-members-exit-dogged-by-misconduct-allegations/ https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenArgs/comments/10u2u8i/summary_of_all_the_accusationsallegations_against/ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RVYJE0ljCsHLJFiIAP5aMGVhaA1_XmLi2R5wVmB_EwQ/edit Here are some links where you can find, follow, and support Eiynah https://twitter.com/NiceMangos https://bsky.app/profile/nicemangos.bsky.social https://www.instagram.com/nicemangosart/ https://soundcloud.com/politeconversations https://www.patreon.com/nicemangos/ Check out my websitehttps://www.skepticalleftist.com/ My Linktreehttps://linktr.ee/Skepticalcory --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/skepticalleftist/message
[This episode was released on Patreon on Oct 19. Sign up on Patreon.com/NiceMangos for early access to episodes like this one.] ⚠️Content Warning: Discussions of extreme vio**nce Here it is….. after an extremely loong break on Woking Up. This recent take of Sam's on the Israel-Palestine situation was so bad, I just had to say something. It's been a difficult episode to record. Devastating time in general, very difficult subject to discuss, so i apologize for sounding a little emotional in some parts. I simply can't believe he says things like this in plain sight, in times of extreme violence. Even for him this is off the charts imo. ——— Links: https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide Israeli defence minister says ‘we are fighting human animals' https://x.com/kenroth/status/1714502239690064383?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Israeli politician says the children of Gaza brought it on themselves https://x.com/middleeasteye/status/1714491538028298386?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw https://x.com/nimrod_flash/status/1713970306262458505?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Netanyahu's deleted tweet https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/children-post-deleted-netanyahu/ —— If you enjoy the show pls consider supporting via patreon.com/NiceMangos or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts/Spotify
This is a recording of my Twitter Space on Sept 20th, 2023, with good friends of the show, linguist Dr. Caitlin Green & Jack Graham from the IDSG podcast, This is a live event, on a broken hellsite, so pls excuse the sound quality not being to usual podcast standards. We chat about Russell Brand allegations, the RW cope & hypocrisy around it, the Boebert situation especially in contrast with the ‘groomer' discourse that we usually hear on the right. If you'd like to participate in a future Space, pls subscribe via patreon.com/NiceMangos or follow me on Twitter (yes I'm still calling it that) (@nicemangos), where I announce upcoming Spaces.
This is a recording of my Twitter Space with linguist Dr. Caitlin Green (@caitlinmoriah) from Aug 26, 2023. This is a live event, on a broken hellsite, so pls excuse the sound quality. Join us for a fun filled conversation about all sorts of RW nonsense! We briefly chat about Trump's mugshot, Peterson's increasingly ridiculous custom suits, language in the era of Trump, RW influencer Richard Hanania who was recently found to have written for white supremacist sites in the past, Stephen Pinker, Granola N*zis & fetishization of ‘naturalness', the function of dogwhistles, the reactionary view that society/institutions have become too feminized, and much more! If you'd like to participate in a future Space, pls subscribe via patreon.com/NiceMangos or follow me on Twitter (yes I'm still calling it that) (@nicemangos), where I announce upcoming Spaces.
This is a recording of our Twitter Space from 25 July, 2023. Pls excuse the sound quality, it is a live event via the phone app so the recording isn't usual podcast quality. Me & Jack from IDSG, as well as several lovely listeners, chat about Barbie and the *highly entertaining* rightwing outrage surrounding the movie. We discuss The Culture War more broadly, fairytales, ‘man-products', “go woke go broke” & much, much more. I thoroughly enjoy speaking with listeners from around the world at these Spaces, if you'd like to participate in a future Space, pls subscribe via patreon.com/NiceMangos or follow me on Twitter (yes I'm still calling it that) (@nicemangos), where I announce upcoming Spaces.
Hello Dear listeners, Here's a recording of our Twitter Space from May 12, 2023 where myself, Jack and Daniel of the IDSG podcast chatted about Misogyny, Monarchy & Multi-racial n@zis I don't usually post my twitter spaces to this feed because the recording is available via Twitter and a pain to record off Twitter, but thanks to Jack (from idsg, who kindly provided this recording) you can listen to it here too. Pls excuse the sound Quality, Twitter Spaces is not the best sounding audio. If you'd like to join the next Twitter Space live, pls subscribe to the show via patreon.com/NiceMangos or follow @nicemangos on twitter, where I announce my twitter spaces in advance.
This is part 2 of the previous episode. If you haven't checked that out yet, I recommend you listen to that first. —— Enjoy another serving of big-brained Evolutionary Psychology takes with our guide, Mr. @evopsychgoogle. In this part we discuss how biology and ‘science' have been invoked, historically, to keep groups oppressed, whether evopsych is based on a flawed framework or if its just an unfortunate coincidence that it tends to attract people with reactionary views. We also chat about race science in evopsych, the fixation on menstrual cycles, and many more high-level ideas. Links: Jerry Coyne on sex with strangers & Evopsych https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2021/06/06/sex-with-a-stranger-evolutionary-psychology-and-sex-differences-in-behavior/ When bigger isn't always better: how history got the female brain wrong https://www.penguin.co.uk/articles/2019/mar/how-history-got-the-female-brain-wrong-by-gina-rippon.html Charles Murray on the Cold Winters Theory https://twitter.com/evopsychgoogle/status/1632577539309985792?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Peterson tweeting about red as a ‘female sexual signal' https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/976578493063376896?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw —— If you enjoy the show, pls consider supporting via patreon.com/NiceMangos
Excited to share the 69th episode of Polite Conversations with you. I hope you enjoy this episode as much as I did. I had a lot of fun chatting with Mr. @evopsychgoogle, do check out his Twitter account if you don't already follow him. We chat about all the ridiculousness one encounters in the world of evopsych; race science, infidelity detection, sniffing out ovulation, women co-evolving with ripe fruit, and much much more. —— If you enjoy this episode, please consider supporting the show via patreon.com/NiceMangos
We've made it to episode 5 of the Polite Conversations Aftershow! This is where you get to hear behind the scenes content of everything and anything to do with Polite Conversations/Woking Up/Twitter Spaces …with guests that are exclusively patrons of the show! Joining me for this one, is Linguist Dr. Caitlin Green. (@caitlinmoriah) We had a lot of laughs discussing recent anti-woke-sphere absurdities, hypocrisies and outrages. Roald Dahl, Oompa Loompas, ‘corporate wokeness', trad wives & much, much more! We chat about Pinker's use of the phrase ‘Primitive Word Magic', about Scott Adams and his recent racist outburst … We also discussed Jordan Peterson's attempt at poetry, and that was as fun as you're imagining it to be. —————————————————— Links & References: Jokes about Conor Friedersdorf are referencing this tweet: https://twitter.com/caitlinmoriah/status/1629883194542817282?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Catch our previous episode here: Linguistics of Slurs https://podcasts.google.com?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjIwNjczMjAxMS9zb3VuZHMucnNz&episode=dGFnOnNvdW5kY2xvdWQsMjAxMDp0cmFja3MvMTA1ODI3MDQzMQ%3D%3D You can try this link for our twitter Space that Caitlin mentioned, but twitter is very spotty these days and sometimes the link works, other times it does not. (I believe, Twitter Spaces only work on your phone) https://twitter.com/nicemangos/status/1590763991688970240?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Peterson anti-abortion ‘gotcha' thread: https://twitter.com/nicemangos/status/1629363205150498818?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Peterson mad at public service messages: https://twitter.com/nicemangos/status/1629281946097385472?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Peterson mad at paper towel dispenser: https://twitter.com/nicemangos/status/1628465693866831876?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw —— Subscribe via Patreon.com/NiceMangos for the full episode
Here's episode 4 of the Polite Conversations Aftershow, where you get to hear behind the scenes content of everything and anything to do with Polite Conversations/Woking Up/Twitter Spaces …with guests that are exclusively patrons of the show! This time I've got the wonderful Jack & Daniel of the ‘I Don't Speak German' podcast, who are friends and patrons of the show. It was an honour to have them and a lovely, ridiculous time was had, talking about gas stoves, fuckable m&m's, Fashy beef-eating as well as fashy vegetarianism in India……Elon, free speech hypocrisy, Twitter re-instating nazis and much more. Enjoy! Thank you to all the wonderful patrons who help make the Aftershow possible. If you'd like to support the show or potentially be a guest on the Aftershow, pls subscribe via Patreon.com/NiceMangos today! Links: Elon complying with PM Modi, and removing links to/clips of BBC documentary: https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjkybx/free-speech-elon-musk-censors-bbc-doc-india-modi- My Previous episodes on Hindu Nationalism: The Hindu Far Right: https://podcasts.google.com?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjIwNjczMjAxMS9zb3VuZHMucnNz&episode=dGFnOnNvdW5kY2xvdWQsMjAxMDp0cmFja3MvNTQyNDk2MTE3 Hindu Nationalism & Hindutva: https://podcasts.google.com?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjIwNjczMjAxMS9zb3VuZHMucnNz&episode=dGFnOnNvdW5kY2xvdWQsMjAxMDp0cmFja3MvNzU0NjA2OTY5 My Episode on Food & Fascism mentioned in the episode: https://podcasts.google.com?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjIwNjczMjAxMS9zb3VuZHMucnNz&episode=dGFnOnNvdW5kY2xvdWQsMjAxMDp0cmFja3MvMTI3MDc1ODAxMA%3D%3D ——- Find IDSG: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5saWJzeW4uY29tLzE1MjU5Ny9yc3M Daniel is on Twitter @DanieleHarper Jack is on Twitter @_Jack_Graham_
We are back again with a good old dunking episode, this time on one of Aarjan's personal heroes - renowned Canadian psychologist Jordan B. Peterson. Joined by longtime adversary of the IDW Eiynah, also known as NiceMangos, we discuss everything from Peterson's recent troubles on Twitter, his medically induced coma in Russia, his bizarre relationship with his daughter, and more broadly the state of the IDW in 2022. Content warning for one of the worst dreams you have ever heard of narrated in JP's own voice. /// SHOW NOTES /// /// CREDITS /// Host: Aarjan Guest: Eiynah Production: Connor Music: Cardio /// Idina Menzel - Let It Go
**REUPLOAD** originally released on Nov 30th, 2020 Sorry had to reupload the full file of this episode again because the previous version was not showing up on Spotify. —- Covering Sam's high level ideas pre/post and during the election. Let's chat about that 'IDW' retirement Shall we? :) If you enjoy the show pls consider supporting via Patreon.com/NiceMangos
* previously only a partial version of the episode was released. This is the full version. Now available to everyone :) Episode 6 coming to Patreon soon! —— A bit of a different episode this time, spent some time on my ‘identity’, backstory and personal trajectory into New Atheism in the first half of the episode. We dive into Sam’s hot takes about identity politics in the second half. Links: You can check out my book here vimeo.com/90493285 Sam Harris and the Myth of Perfectly Rational Thought | WIRED Support the show via patreon.com/NiceMangos
A bit of a different episode this time, spent some time on my ‘identity’, backstory and personal trajectory into New Atheism in the first half of the episode. We dive into Sam’s hot takes about identity politics in the second half. You can check out my book here https://vimeo.com/90493285 Support the show via patreon.com/NiceMangos
Eiynah is a Pakistani-Canadian blogger, illustrator, and host of the "Polite Conversations" podcast. She rides the social tension of both publicly criticizing Islam as an ideology, as well as anti-Muslim bigotry, which is an ongoing struggle for nuance in today's climate. In our conversation we processed through the movement of the "Intellectual Dark Web" and shared our critical sentiment of individuals like Dave Rubin, Jordan Peterson, Maajid Nawaz, Sam Harris, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who have each been strong proponents within this new tribal identity. Enjoy! Donate to Eiynah on Patreon: www.patreon.com/nicemangos Follow Eiynah on Twitter: @NiceMangos
Sam's recent episode on white supremacy was really something. And for him to have recorded this just after the Gilroy and El Paso shootings is truly obnoxious. It was just so shockingly bad....even by IDW standards - I had to share my thoughts on it. Of course since it's about Sam Harris, I took everything *out of context* and obvs made it unfairly seem like he was saying something, when he was actually saying the opposite (J/k!!!) (Please do check out his entire episode if you'd like to hear the whole thing in context, or if you'd like a good laugh, because it's fkn ridiculous) And if you enjoy the show please consider supporting via Patreon.com/nicemangos because without listeners like you, this isn't possible. Links: IDW>Alt Lite>Alt Right Study: https://twitter.com/manoelribeiro/status/1164904488970399744 Rolling Stone Article: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/youtube-far-right-radicalization-study-877061/ NYT Youtube Radicalization Article: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/08/technology/youtube-radical.html ABC News/Washington Post poll: https://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1190a1TrumpandCharlottesville.pdf https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/28-approve-trumps-response-charlottesville-poll/story?id=49334079 WaPo article about Southern slave owners rhetoric: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/08/29/conservatives-say-weve-abandoned-reason-civility-old-south-said-that-too/ The Truth about hate speech: https://twitter.com/NiceMangos/status/1167840156222709760 Shaun’s Prager U video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T45Sbkndjc
In this episode I speak with Eiynah about the challenges of speaking about Islam and Muslims in our current political climate. We recorded this conversation on Wednesday evening, March 20, just five days after the horrific terrorist attack on two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, that claimed the lives of 50 people.How can we talk about Islam and Muslims without being a bigot? On the one hand, individuals absolutely have the right to challenge and criticize and type of ideology or belief, including Islam, especially in open, democratic societies. On the other hand, we cannot separate our criticism of religion from the social and political context in which we make those critiques. Timing and tone do matter. While all critiques may be permitted, not all comments are advisable at every moment if we care about the lives of those who are most effected.Ideology has consequences, as we have seen with acts of terror that run the ideological spectrum from Nazism, to white nationalism and identitarianism (such as the ideology that animated the Christchurch, New Zealand terrorist), to Islamism and more. Islam is not a single thing or a unified way of seeing the world any more than Christianity is. Eiynah is an ex-Muslim of Pakistani background who was raised in Saudi Arabia and now lives in Toronto, Canada. She is a prolific podcaster, blogger, and commentator at the intersection religion, politics, and human rights.LINKSNice Mangos website | http://nicemangos.blogspot.com/Polite Conversations podcast | https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/polite-conversations/id1086199663?mt=2Follow Eiynah on Twitter | http://www.twitter.com/nicemangosLife After God website | http://www.lifeaftergod.orgSupport this podcast by becoming a member | http://www.patreon.com/lifeaftergodFollow Life After God on Twitter | http://www.twitter.com/ourlifeaftergodFollow Ryan Bell on Twitter | http://www.twitter.com/ryanjbell
I feel like if there’s any group of people who have to feel like political footballs basically all the time its gotta be ex-Muslims. Especially ex muslims who tend toward the leftist end of the political spectrum. I’ve seen all manner of white people and never muslims explaining to ex Muslims what their background is, how they’re supposed to feel, how they’re ex-Muslimming wrong, and to be honest it just looks super effing exhausting. So to have a talk about it we have atheist Twitter’s favorite ex Muslim, host of the Polite Conversations podcast, Eiynah. https://soundcloud.com/politeconversations https://twitter.com/NiceMangos
We chat about Social media, Leftist Youtube, 'engaging the other side' and deflecting tactics that cause discourse in general to devolve into nothingness..Enjoy! ----- Re: Pinker I think it's totally fair to be upset at anyone who misrepresented him as an open fan of the Alt right, however there's no balance between criticism of that position and the fact that what he was saying was also concerning. Especially being framed as 'Political Correctness might be redpilling America'. People are so blinded by the 'evil left' narrative that they mindlessly latch on to it wherever and don't bother with any analysis beyond that. More thoughts on the Pinker clip in this thread: https://twitter.com/NiceMangos/status/951166485770227713 If you enjoy this show, pls consider supporting via Patreon https://www.patreon.com/nicemangos
You've heard the Fascist Fashion episodes, now its time for a deep dive into 'Fascist Feminism'. Recently some Alt Right women have been speaking out against Alt Right men who mistreat them and tell them to basically fit the tradwife roles they've all been advocating for *themselves* --Except the Alt Right women's tone changes when those tradrules start being applied to them! Join me, @CoherentStates & youtuber Kristi Winters @KWintie for a closer look at this fascinating, absurd hypocrisy....Literal Nazi Feminists.. (they're not real feminists of course, but its funny to think of them as 'fighting for women's rights' -something they actively oppose- in today's neo nazi movements) actual Feminazi's exist...Who knew! :P Here are some links that were referred to in the podcast: A thread I did on Andrew Anglin's 'style guide' https://twitter.com/NiceMangos/status/941389461111345154 Southern's 'why i'm not married' video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-UKPpmQlys Peterson's concerning, confused views on sexuality and consent: https://twitter.com/21logician/status/831020059212541956 Peter Sweden & Tara McCarthy agree kicking someone out of a club for wearing immodest clothing is ok: https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/926589230779953153 My piece on Faith Goldy being deplatformed from a 'free speech event' by 'free speech activists' like Peterson and Saad http://nicemangos.blogspot.ca/2017/11/free-speech-activists-deplatform.html Blonde in the Belly of the Beast clip: https://twitter.com/ViniKako/status/831652516836364288 Wives with a purpose vid seems to have been flagged on original channel but here is a mirror: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4Bxfx7trf0 *Pls note that this convo was recorded in late December, last year. --- If you enjoy the show please consider supporting via patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nicemangos - without listeners like you, this isn't possible.
Eiynah is a Pakistani-Canadian illustrator/blogger who writes and draws about sexuality in South Asia (mostly Pakistan), religion, politics, feminism, godlessness. Her podcast is Polite Conversations. Follow her on twitter @nicemangos or Facebook and support her work on Patreon. Eiynah spoke to us remotely. https://soundcloud.com/politeconversations https://twitter.com/NiceMangos
I chat with Journalist Evan Balgord (@ebalgord) who covers the Canadian far-right and antifa. He’s been on the ground for a lot of the rallies and provides some very interesting insights. The rising far right in Canada is not covered enough in my opinion, especially as Canada seems to be discussed in this idealistic way in comparison to Trump Country. Of course, things are better in Canada and racial tensions are not as high as the US. But a lot of key far-right, alt-right, alt-lite figures are indeed from here (Lauren Southern, Stefan Molyneux, Gavin McInnes to name a few) - something to keep in mind. We talk anti-Muslim movements, the controversial and often misunderstood M103, plausible deniability as a far-right tactic, and some ways in which also the left misses the mark on addressing Islam. Here is Evan’s wonderful episode for Canadaland on The Rise of the Right: http://www.canadalandshow.com/podcast/the-rise-of-the-right/ We also discuss hypocrisy in the ‘free speech movement’, the SPLC lawsuit. Not everyone will agree but here are some links regarding my views on that: https://twitter.com/NiceMangos/status/909205261650399237 I found this to be a good piece: https://www.popehat.com/2017/06/29/how-the-southern-poverty-law-center-enraged-nominal-conservatives-into-betraying-free-speech-values/ And this part of the write up was especially concerning: https://twitter.com/21logician/status/885998178008477696 More free speech hypocrisy re ACLU https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/884941607740375040 —— Some links we discuss: Shooting at Charlottesville https://gizmodo.com/new-video-shows-man-shooting-gun-near-crowd-of-counter-1798463559 Texas mosque fake story http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-41147572 BLM escorting Nazis: https://twitter.com/qwrrty/status/898999067673378817 https://twitter.com/qwrrty/status/898998907375464448 https://twitter.com/qwrrty/status/898998824760487936 https://twitter.com/qwrrty/status/898999471396212736 If you enjoy the show, please consider supporting via Patreon. The show is entirely listener funded and only made possible by listeners like you! https://www.patreon.com/nicemangos
Joining me today is Eiynah! You may know her from her podcast Polite Conversations or from a very active and insightful Twitter account, @NiceMangos. First up we talk a bit about the jarring experience I had of seeing fully burka'd women in Europe and what, if anything, can anyone do about it. Then we talk about the hatred that Eiynah has been the subject of from multiple fronts. Some of the discussion gets a little particular to Twitter. I did my best to make sure Eiynah spelled it out for the uninitiated, but I highly recommend checking out her blog where she is able to spell this out in more detail. Find it here! Leave us a Voicemail: (916) 750-4746! Support us on Patreon at: patreon.com/seriouspod Follow us on Twitter: @seriouspod Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/seriouspod For comments, email thomas@seriouspod.com Questions, Suggestions, Episode ideas? email: haeley@seriouspod.com
I have to say this was a heavy subject to discuss as an outsider, but tremendously educational. Even looking up some of the stuff later, that came up in conversation like the Cronulla riots, definitely provided me with more context to the level of divisiveness and hatred that exists towards Muslim minorities there. While, of course I am incredibly against anti muslim bigotry, I don't think legislating speech will be an effective form of combating it. Incitement to violence and harm, harming someone's private property excluded of course. On the other hand, this also demonstrates to me that refusing to address underlying problematic attitudes in minority communities (out of good intent to protect them from discrimination)can result in furthering divides. The specific part which concerns me because of how subjectively it can be interpreted is the religious vilification law mentioned here: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/act-parliament-passes-religious-vilification-laws-20160804-gqlagu.html https://twitter.com/NiceMangos/status/762418039212023809 Join me and my guests Ben @Atticus_Amber (lawyer) and Joel @JoelRDodd (activist) as we discuss the parameters of free speech, the implications of heavily regulating it. Ben is a lawyer who works in the same building as the Lindt Cafe, where the terrifying 2014 siege took place http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/11293744/Sydney-siege-in-pictures-Islamist-gunman-holds-hostages-in-Lindt-cafe.html Joel is an activist and a South African immigrant to Australia. He says he's had to spend a lot of time unlearning the racism he grew up with in South Africa. ---- Links RACIAL DISCRIMINATION ACT 1975 - SECT 18C http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/rda1975202/s18c.html --- SECT 18D (Exemptions) http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/rda1975202/s18d.html ----- SECT 67A http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/act/consol_act/da1991164/s67a.html ---- Even tho we don't have a specific religious vilification law in Canada, we do technically hv a blasphemy law on the books http://centreforinquiry.ca/canadas-blasphemous-libel-law/ And even tho it lies dormant, just the fact it exists is worrying. Religions may not be a protected class in Canada, but there is a sensitivity to especially a minority religion like Islam, which makes it much harder for progressive muslims and ex muslims to fight for LGBT equality for example. Despite having a supportive school curriculum https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015/05/04/fact-checking-10-claims-made-by-parents-against-the-ontario-sex-ed-curriculum.html The schools end up backing down instead of standing their ground unfortunately. Muslim parent upset about mandatory music class: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/mandatory-music-classes-strike-sour-note-with-muslim-parents/article31716832/ Schools to allow religion based class exemptions: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/education/toronto-schools-to-allow-religion-based-class-exemptions/article31731974/ --- Other topics mentioned: Jerry Coyne : To uniquely protect Islam against mockery, Sydney newspaper suggests that Muslims be considered members of a race rather than a religion https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2016/08/22/sydney-newspaper-suggests-that-muslims-be-considered-an-racial-rather-than-a-religious-group-to-prevent-mockery-of-islam/ Andrew Bolt: http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-28/bolt-found-guilty-of-breaching-discrimination-act/3025918 Cronulla Riots : A text msg read “to help support Leb and Wog bashing day…bring your mates down and lets…” http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/cronulla-riots-10-years-on-muslim-to-muslim--if-you-dont-like-it-here-leave/news-story/524dd9d3f72691196106daf455d6721d Cronulla Riots google images: https://www.google.ca/search?q=cronulla+riots&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjArpXUtLfPAhWL64MKHXa0C7IQsAQIKA&biw=1123&bih=637#imgrc=m1GU5LfvPuWHvM%3A
[Sorry for all the sound effects. Michael's neighbours were drilling and hammering, I was recording in my basement for the first (and last) time..where it turns out the mic picks up the sound of water going through the pipes] **** Here's my chat with Michael Sherlock - activist, atheist, author. We delved into some pretty interesting conversations....about 'befriending' bigots...jihadists..islamists...kkk members...people on the far right. Where do we draw the line on who we can and can't consider a 'friend'? We talk in some depth about BLM, Milo, Tommy Robinson, touch on Michael's stepping down from Vive Charlie (far-rightish leaning "atheist" magazine)...we discuss his views on Maryam Namazie, who's kind of become a controversial figure among many atheists. Enjoy! Show notes and references: BLM: http://www.dailywire.com/news/4729/toronto-black-lives-matter-co-founder-allah-give-harry-khachatrian#modal http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/pride-parade-toronto-1.3662823 Tommy Robinson:When Tommy met Mo (Documentary) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGLuEhAkpaI Sexist, body shaming tweet to Maryam: https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/696437489289031684 Tweet about deporting: https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/693900260318564352 White Rights RT: https://twitter.com/NiceMangos/status/656201528517218304 White Genocide (seems the tweet has now been deleted) https://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/734686108437643264" Throwing Quilliam under the bus: "I used Quilliam, Quilliam used me" https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/673603729942290433 article: Robinson claims Quilliam paid him to quit EDL http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/12/03/tommy-robinson-claims-quilliam-paid-him-to-leave-edl_n_8710834.html?1449244376&Tommy Jailed for Fraud: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-25862838False Passport: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-20935502[ "Lennon (Tommy) was jailed for assault in 2005 and also has convictions for drugs offences and public order offences, the court heard.] Link to GS Podcast: http://www.gspellchecker.com/2014/10/ep34-eiynah-tommy-robinson/ Paul Weston (Co leader of Pegida UK [Tommy's current group]) on preventing white genocide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsjc5CVujrM Vive Charlie: Michael steps down: https://twitter.com/sherlockmichael/status/705021513062227968 Joe tweets denigrating, sexist cartoon of Maryam: https://twitter.com/JihadistJoe/status/704760002569830400 A post I wrote about Jihadist Joe/Vive Charlie last year : http://nicemangos.blogspot.ca/2015/08/jihadist-joe-vive-charlie-islam.html?zx=a544e790af22efa0 --- Aasia Bibi case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia_Bibi_blasphemy_case ----------- Michael's Crowdfunding page for his research https://www.gofundme.com/2sebg944 -------- Please consider supporting this podcast via patreon.com/nicemangos
A short 12 minute mini-episode/rant on Justin's recent visit to a mosque where women were not permitted on the main floor and had to watch from the balcony. Tweets referenced : https://twitter.com/davidakin/status/775329687614722048 https://twitter.com/NiceMangos/status/775340557782683648 https://twitter.com/NiceMangos/status/636657023992532992 The clip from Justin's Mosque speech was taken from: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/justin-trudeau-visits-mosque-eid-170000610.html If you enjoy the show, please consider supporting via patreon : https://www.patreon.com/nicemangos :) With your help I can do so much more! xx
Join me and New York Times Columnist Bina Shah for a Polite Conversation about Feminism (Islamic and intersectional) , Religion, Cultural appropriation, Sam Harris and Dawkins. Here is a link to the poll i mention: https://twitter.com/NiceMangos/status/738395690515222528 Pls note: this conversation was recorded before Orlando. If you think this show could sound better, pls support the podcast via patreon so I can buy better equipment!