Podcasts about White supremacy

Heather Ann Thompson, historian and Pulitzer Prize-winning author of Blood in the Water: The Attica Prison Uprising of 1971 and Its Legacy and her latest, Fear and Fury: The Reagan Eighties, the Bernie Goetz Shootings, and the Rebirth of White Rage (Pantheon, 2026) argues that the roots of white rage and violence can be traced back to the Reagan Era and, specifically, the Bernie Goetz shootings of four Black teenagers on a NYC subway in 1984.

The Context of White Supremacy welcomes Shana McCalla live from Canada. Classified as a black female, Ms. McCalla advocates with FIND ONTARIO MISSING BOYS (http://FindOntarioMissingBoys.ca). The group provides resources and support for missing black boys and youth. Ms. McCalla has been central for more than year in bringing attention to and working on behalf of numerous black families who have suffered through their black sons being lured far from their residence to sell drugs in rural areas of Canada. We'll ask how these boys are being targeted and why the police failed to nab the people most to blame for stealing and corrupting these boys. It seems that a sophisticated community of White people operates this child smuggling project, and they've thus far been immune to prosecution. Interestingly, a highly refined component of this child trafficking tragedy is that some of the black boys are forced to sell drugs to non-white people on "reservations." We also make sure to ask Ms. McCalla about how she sustains herself while supporting traumatized black parents and children. #TheCOWS17Years INVEST in The COWS – http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: https://cash.app/$TheCOWS CALL IN NUMBER: 720.716.7300 CODE 564943#

A hellish weekend of mass shootings has rocked America to its core, motivated by racial hatred and a conspiracy theory that's becoming mainstream thanks in part to Tucker Carlson, Trumpism and the new radical right. “The Great Replacement Theory” is burning up the inner- webs and fomenting a movement, rooted in White Supremacy and anti-semitism, that pits us against them. Join us as we discuss this dangerous movement and much more with Washington journalist and Mother Jones Bureau Chief, David Corn.

The Context of White Supremacy welcomes Admitted Racist Dr. Katherine Blaesing. Classified as a White Woman, Dr. Blaesing is “the Director of Community Well-Being” at San Francisco's The Hamlin School. “She is passionate about the inextricable link between holistic health and both anti-bias and anti-racism tenets and understandings,” and just finished “completing her Doctorate in Anti-Racist Policy and Leadership at American University.” Gus T. recently located her 2025 dissertation for said doctorate, No One Questions My Presence Here: White Women in Higher Education. The report cites a number of former C.O.W.S. guests - including Dr. Joe Feagin, Dr. Charles W. Mills, and Dr. Frank Wilderson to name a few. Ostensibly, Dr. Blaesing examines how she and other White Women maintain and refine the System of White Supremacy. However, her works greatly minimizes White Women's central culpability in pipelining black boys to greater confinement. Her work neglects to address if White people are going to voluntarily desist with the practice of White Supremacy. She also suggests that White people feel “guilty” about mistreating black people. Where is the evidence? We'll ask how White Women satisfy their “sadomasochistic” desires while failing black students. Importantly, Dr. Blaesing tried to suggest that Gus T. tricked her into a conversation under false pretenses. Gus reminded her that he requested to inspect her dissertation and identified her outburst as an act (performance) of Racism. #TheCOWS17Years INVEST in The COWS – http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: https://cash.app/$TheCOWS CALL IN NUMBER: 720.716.7300 CODE 564943#

Devin Thomas O'Shea transports Travis to Milwaukee, 1932, where Thomas Pynchon's newest novel Shadow Ticket kicks off with speakeasy intrigue, Depression misery, and a precision-engineered car bomb. Devin unpacks Pynchon's characteristic hinge-of-history setting, when everyone's forced to pick sides, as the book's reluctant bruiser-turned-investigator Hicks McTaggart gets thrashed around by forces he can't (and won't) understand. Shadow Ticket's paranoia, occult object-mysticism, and explosive politics connect to the real history of American labor violence: the Haymarket bombing and riot, the Bay View massacre, and the 1932 Ford hunger march. What can the novel, probably Pynchon's last, teach us about our current strange moment in history? Subscribe for $5 a month to get all the premium QAA episodes: www.patreon.com/qaa Devin Thomas O'Shea https://devinoshea.wordpress.com/ https://x.com/devintoshea https://bsky.app/profile/devintoshea.bsky.social The Veiled Prophet: Secret Societies, White Supremacy, and the Struggle for St. Louis by Devin Thomas O'Shea — Coming June 2026 https://www.haymarketbooks.org/books/2770-the-veiled-prophet Check out our new podcast series network Cursed Media and binge the entirety of our exclusive shows Science in Transition by Liv Agar and Truly, Tradly, Deeply by Annie Kelly https://cursedmedia.net Editing by Corey Klotz. Theme by Nick Sena. Additional music by Pontus Berghe. Theme Vocals by THEY/LIVE (https://instagram.com/theyylivve / https://sptfy.com/QrDm). Cover Art by Pedro Correa: (https://pedrocorrea.com) https://qaapodcast.com QAA was known as the QAnon Anonymous podcast.

Gary Dodson — better known as “Bumper” — tells the uncensored story of his transformation from a violent white supremacist skinhead and federal prison gang member to a man who ultimately walked away from hate and extremism. Raised in a chaotic, drug-filled household in rural California, Bumper gravitated toward gangs, violence, and racist ideology at a young age. What began as rebellion turned into full-blown immersion in neo-Nazi skinhead culture, leading to robberies, stabbings, riots, and eventually a federal hate-crime and arson case tied to Molotov cocktails. Bumper spent over a decade inside some of the most dangerous level-four federal prisons in the United States, including USP McCreary and USP Victorville, where racial politics, stabbings, and brutal “smash-outs” were a daily reality. In this interview, he breaks down: • How he was recruited into the skinhead movement • The inner politics of white supremacist prison gangs • The psychology behind hate, identity, and belonging • What daily life is really like in violent federal penitentiaries • How he slowly abandoned racist ideology • What finally made him choose a different path This is a raw, unfiltered look inside extremist subcultures, prison survival, and the possibility of change. Go Support Gary! TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@garydodson7 Podcast: @YardDownProductions This Episode Is #Sponsored By The Following: Superpower! Head to Superpower.com and use code CONNECT at checkout for $20 off your membership. Live up to your 100-Year potential. #superpowerpod Hims! To get simple, online access to personalized, affordable care for ED, Hair Loss, Weight Loss, and more, visit https://hims.com/connect Ava! Take control of your credit today. Download the Ava app, and when you join using MY promo code CONNECT20, you'll get 20% off your first year—monthly or annual, your choice. 00:00 Bumper's Violent Origins and Early Life 06:00 Growing Up in Racist Small-Town California 12:00 Troubled Childhood and Family Chaos 14:49 This Episode Is Sponsored By Superpower 18:04 First Criminal Experiences & Juvenile Hall 22:00 Introduction to Gang Life and Becoming a Skinhead 32:00 The Skinhead Subculture: Beliefs and Identity 33:24 This Episode Is Sponsored By Hims 35:57 Life of Crime: Robbery, Fights, and Violence 51:00 First Prison Stint: Rules, Riots, and Violence 52:12 This Episode Is Sponsored By Hims 54:05 Reentry to Society, Skinhead Crew, and Ongoing Crime 01:13:00 Federal Hate Crime Case: From State to Feds 01:23:00 Violence, Betrayals, and Prison Politics 01:33:00 Federal Time: Maximum Security, Survival, and Chaos 01:42:00 Addiction, Hustles, and Race Dynamics Behind Bars 01:50:00 The Reality of Violence in Prison Life Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Context of White Supremacy welcomes Dr. Kellen Hoxworth. Classified as a White Man, Dr. Hoxworth is an “Assistant Professor of Theatre at the University of Buffalo, State University of New York. His academic interests focus on the intersections between performance, race, and coloniality, particularly in African and Black diasporic performance.” During our recent discussing with Dr. Chad Montrie, he told us that while researching Racially Restricted Regions of Minnesota he was inundated with blackface and minstrel show images. Dr. Montrie said, “They were everywhere.” At the schools, in the libraries, at the political meetings. All areas of people activity. The ubiquitous nature of these images motivated him to write a book on the subject and spurred Gus research other material on these racial performances. I soon located, Dr. Hoxworth's Transoceanic Blackface: Empire, Race, Performance. This 2024 publication asserts that minstrels shows are not a uniquely “american” form of entertainment. Rather, blackface and minstrel show performances where a crucial component of a global White Culture. People classified as White in every region of the globe partook in the humor and domination of the minstrel show. They are a massive component of what it means to be classified as White. #WhatDoesItMeanToBeWhite #TheCOWS16Years INVEST in The COWS – http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: https://cash.app/$TheCOWS CALL IN NUMBER: 720.716.7300 CODE 564943#

The Katherine Massey Book Club @ The C.O.W.S. hosts the 4th study session on Char Adams' Black-Owned: The Revolutionary Life of the Black Bookstore. Published at the end of 2025, Adams' new book made a number of lists for top books of the year. Touted as an "award-winning journalist, editor, and storyteller for NBC News, known for her work on race, identity, and inequitable systems," Adams is a lovely black female, Victim of Racism. This may be the first to seriously investigate the history of bookstores operated by people classified as black in the area of the world known as the US. Specifically, Adams investigates how black people have responded to the System of White Supremacy through the lens of bookstores ownership. C.O.W.S. listeners should know that White Supremacists have invested immense time and energy to ensure that black people do not read or have access to books. So, black bookstores must be heavily targeted places. Last week, we discussed the Tree of Life Bookstore in Harlem and the Hue-Man Experience Bookstore in Denver. A central theme of this text is that black bookstore operators were motivated to provide books for black children. Importantly, last week Adams told us that a significant pattern is that black females often read fictional romance novels - like Terry McMillan's Waiting To Exhale, while black males mostly read non-fiction works of history. Gus notes that many of the fictional novels most popular with black females often omit the System of White Supremacy while highlighting black males as feverish, misogynistic ogres. #COINTELPRO #TheCOWS16Years INVEST in The COWS – http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: https://cash.app/$TheCOWS CALL IN NUMBER: 720.716.7300 CODE 564943#

Funding white supremacy is a core, not incidental, function of the modern capitalist state in the U.S. It is also the title of economist Robert B. Williams' 2025 book, Funding White Supremacy: Federal Wealth Policies and the Modern Racial Wealth Gap.Bob and Steve share the fundamental position that capitalism doesn't just produce inequality by accident, it builds durable ladders for some and trapdoors for others. Wealth, not income, is the key instrument because it is power that reproduces itself across generations.Bob lays out the major policy mechanism of stealth wealth-building: how the federal government subsidizes asset accumulation through the tax code, especially via “tax expenditures” (deductions, exclusions, preferential treatment) that provide vast benefits to the wealthy.From an MMT perspective, the conversation underlines a crucial point: the state's problem is not “finding the money,” it's choosing who gets the public subsidy. A system that claims scarcity around public goods reliably mobilizes massive policy support for private asset appreciation and wealth compounding. In other words, benefits reward ownership and existing assets, not the people struggling to acquire them.Bob situates this historically, tracing the origins of the modern income and estate tax era to the early 20th century and argues that any progressive policy history coexisted with, and was intertwined with, overt white supremacist politics.Robert B. Williams is the Stedman Professor of Economics, Guilford College. Bob has taught economics and political economy for over 40 years. He has written three books, including Funding White Supremacy: Federal Wealth Policies and the Modern Racial Wealth Gap (Cambridge University Press, 2025).

Send us a textDr. Akilah Cadet is all the hyphenates: CEO of Change Cadet (creating meaningful change behind some of the biggest brands you use everyday), leader, speaker, creative director, producer, writer (White Supremacy is all Around: Notes from a Black Disabled Woman in a White World), co-owner of the Roots and Soul soccer teams, and podcast host of Humane Rights, to name a few.We sit down virtually to talk the magic of Oakland, the importance of harmony over balance, suffering from Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, how she became a sports team owner, and why it is more important than ever to support BIPOC and marginalized voices and businesses.Buy Akilah's book White Supremacy is all Around: Notes from a Black Disabled Woman in a White WorldListen to Humane RightsFollow Dr. Akilah Cadet on IGSupport the showThanks for listening and for your support! We couldn't have won Best of the Bay Best Podcast in 2022 , 2023 , and 2024 without you! -- Fight fascism. Shop small. Use cash. Fuck ice. -- Support Bitch Talk here! Subscribe to our channel on YouTube for behind the scenes footage! Rate and review us wherever you listen to podcasts! Visit our website! www.bitchtalkpodcast.com Follow us on Instagram, Threads, and Substack Listen every Monday at 7 am on BFF.FM

Despite reform efforts that have grown in scope and intensity over the last two decades, the machine of American mass incarceration continues to flourish. In Ghost in the Criminal Justice Machine: Reform, White Supremacy, and an Abolitionist Future, formerly incarcerated activist and organizer Emile Suotonye DeWeaver argues that the root of the problem is white supremacy. During twenty-one years in prison, DeWeaver covertly organized to pass legislation impacting juveniles in California's criminal legal system; was a culture writer for Easy Street Magazine; and co-founded Prison Renaissance, an organization centering incarcerated voices and incarcerated leadership. DeWeaver draws on these experiences to interrogate the central premise of reform efforts, including prisoner rehabilitation programs, arguing that they demand self-abnegation, entrench white supremacy, and ignore the role of structural oppression. DeWeaver intervenes in contemporary debates on criminal justice and racial justice efforts with his eye-opening discussion of the tools we need to end white supremacy—both within and outside the carceral setting. Ghost in the Criminal Justice Machine adds a sharp and unique perspective to the growing discourse on racial justice, incarceration, and abolition. This episode considers: parole boards; hidden factors that extend sentences; how power is structured; why most reforms repackage inequality; and ways to restructure power. Our guest is: Emile Suotonye DeWeaver, who is a formerly-incarcerated activist and a 2022 Soros Justice Fellow. California's Governor Brown commuted his life sentence after twenty-one years for his community work. He has written for publications including the San Francisco Chronicle, the San Jose Mercury News, Colorlines, The Appeal, The Rumpus, and Seventh Wave. Our host is: Dr. Christina Gessler, who is an academic writing coach and editor. She is the creator, producer and show host of the Academic Life podcast. Playlist for listeners: Hands Up, Don't Shoot Freemans Challenge Stitching Freedom Education Behind The Wall What Might Be Carceral Apartheid No Common Ground Welcome to Academic Life, the podcast for your academic journey—and beyond! You help support the show by downloading and sharing episodes. Join us again to learn from more experts inside and outside the academy, and around the world. Missed any of the 300+ Academic Life episodes? Find them here. And thank you for listening! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/american-studies

The Context of White Supremacy welcomes Dr. Joshua Clark Davis. Classified as a White Man, Dr. Davis is an associate professor of U.S. history at the University of Baltimore. Much of his research examines area of law, politics, and economics within the System of White Supremacy. Gus learned about Dr. Davis' work while studying Char Adams' fabulous new work Black-Owned: The Revolutionary Life of the Black Bookstore. A major point of emphasis is that White Supremacists have invested extraordinary time and energy for centuries to prohibit black people from reading and studying about Racism. Consequently, black bookstores were key targets of Racist counterintelligence programs and sabotage. Adams' book was directly inspired by a 2016 report from Davis, The FBI's War on Black-Owned Bookstores. Gus hoped to discuss Davis' 2020 publication, From Head Shops to Whole Foods: The Rise and Fall of Activist Entrepreneurs. This book as a while chapter discussing the obstacles and labor of black bookstore owners. However, Dr. Davis requested to focus on his 2025 publication, Police Against the Movement: The Sabotage of the Civil Rights Struggle and the Activists Who Fought Back. This important work examines how local police departments sabotage and spy on black people who attempt counter-racism. Examinations of the FBI's COINTELPRO program often fail to examine the separate local surveillance operations which also labored to neutralize any counter-racist effort of non-white people. This book reveals many examples of White people lying by willfully concealing information. #TheGlassHouseTapes #TheCOWS16Years INVEST in The COWS – http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: https://cash.app/$TheCOWS CALL IN NUMBER: 720.716.7300 CODE 564943#

Despite reform efforts that have grown in scope and intensity over the last two decades, the machine of American mass incarceration continues to flourish. In Ghost in the Criminal Justice Machine: Reform, White Supremacy, and an Abolitionist Future, formerly incarcerated activist and organizer Emile Suotonye DeWeaver argues that the root of the problem is white supremacy. During twenty-one years in prison, DeWeaver covertly organized to pass legislation impacting juveniles in California's criminal legal system; was a culture writer for Easy Street Magazine; and co-founded Prison Renaissance, an organization centering incarcerated voices and incarcerated leadership. DeWeaver draws on these experiences to interrogate the central premise of reform efforts, including prisoner rehabilitation programs, arguing that they demand self-abnegation, entrench white supremacy, and ignore the role of structural oppression. DeWeaver intervenes in contemporary debates on criminal justice and racial justice efforts with his eye-opening discussion of the tools we need to end white supremacy—both within and outside the carceral setting. Ghost in the Criminal Justice Machine adds a sharp and unique perspective to the growing discourse on racial justice, incarceration, and abolition. This episode considers: parole boards; hidden factors that extend sentences; how power is structured; why most reforms repackage inequality; and ways to restructure power. Our guest is: Emile Suotonye DeWeaver, who is a formerly-incarcerated activist and a 2022 Soros Justice Fellow. California's Governor Brown commuted his life sentence after twenty-one years for his community work. He has written for publications including the San Francisco Chronicle, the San Jose Mercury News, Colorlines, The Appeal, The Rumpus, and Seventh Wave. Our host is: Dr. Christina Gessler, who is an academic writing coach and editor. She is the creator, producer and show host of the Academic Life podcast. Playlist for listeners: Hands Up, Don't Shoot Freemans Challenge Stitching Freedom Education Behind The Wall What Might Be Carceral Apartheid No Common Ground Welcome to Academic Life, the podcast for your academic journey—and beyond! You help support the show by downloading and sharing episodes. Join us again to learn from more experts inside and outside the academy, and around the world. Missed any of the 300+ Academic Life episodes? Find them here. And thank you for listening! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/african-american-studies

Despite reform efforts that have grown in scope and intensity over the last two decades, the machine of American mass incarceration continues to flourish. In Ghost in the Criminal Justice Machine: Reform, White Supremacy, and an Abolitionist Future, formerly incarcerated activist and organizer Emile Suotonye DeWeaver argues that the root of the problem is white supremacy. During twenty-one years in prison, DeWeaver covertly organized to pass legislation impacting juveniles in California's criminal legal system; was a culture writer for Easy Street Magazine; and co-founded Prison Renaissance, an organization centering incarcerated voices and incarcerated leadership. DeWeaver draws on these experiences to interrogate the central premise of reform efforts, including prisoner rehabilitation programs, arguing that they demand self-abnegation, entrench white supremacy, and ignore the role of structural oppression. DeWeaver intervenes in contemporary debates on criminal justice and racial justice efforts with his eye-opening discussion of the tools we need to end white supremacy—both within and outside the carceral setting. Ghost in the Criminal Justice Machine adds a sharp and unique perspective to the growing discourse on racial justice, incarceration, and abolition. This episode considers: parole boards; hidden factors that extend sentences; how power is structured; why most reforms repackage inequality; and ways to restructure power. Our guest is: Emile Suotonye DeWeaver, who is a formerly-incarcerated activist and a 2022 Soros Justice Fellow. California's Governor Brown commuted his life sentence after twenty-one years for his community work. He has written for publications including the San Francisco Chronicle, the San Jose Mercury News, Colorlines, The Appeal, The Rumpus, and Seventh Wave. Our host is: Dr. Christina Gessler, who is an academic writing coach and editor. She is the creator, producer and show host of the Academic Life podcast. Playlist for listeners: Hands Up, Don't Shoot Freemans Challenge Stitching Freedom Education Behind The Wall What Might Be Carceral Apartheid No Common Ground Welcome to Academic Life, the podcast for your academic journey—and beyond! You help support the show by downloading and sharing episodes. Join us again to learn from more experts inside and outside the academy, and around the world. Missed any of the 300+ Academic Life episodes? Find them here. And thank you for listening! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

In this episode, we explore what it means to stay human in a time of collective trauma. We talk about messiness as a core part of being alive, how purity culture and rigid systems disconnect us from our bodies, and why agency, consent, and clear yeses and nos are essential forms of resistance. Together, we unpack how supremacy shapes therapy, relationships, and identity — especially through individualism, whiteness, and disembodiment — and imagine more liberating ways of practicing care, connection, and community. The conversation weaves personal reflection, cultural critique, and somatic wisdom, inviting listeners back into their bodies, their grief, and their shared humanity.Subverting Supremacy Culture in our Practice: Part 2Friday, January 30, 20262:00 PM  4:00 PMVIRTUALhttps://www.shelterwoodcollective.com/events/subverting-supremacy-culture-in-our-practice-part-2Working with people means navigating power, race, and trauma.This workshop will help you notice supremacy culture in the room and resist it. Due to the way Christian nationalism works in the US we create space to engage Christian supremacy and its manifestations of racialized heteronormativity that affects all bodies — regardless of religious or non-religious status. You will learn embodied, relational tools to strengthen your practice and reduce harm. Danielle S. Rueb Castillejo (she/her), Psychotherapist, Activist, Community Organizer; Jenny McGrath (she/her), Psychotherapist Writer, Author, Body Movement Worker; Abby Wong-Heffter, (she/her), Psychotherapist Teacher, Attachment Specialist; Tamice Spencer-Helms, (she/they), Author, Theoactivist, Non-Profit Leader are collaborating to create a generative learning space for therapists, social workers, educators, organizers, spiritual leaders, healthcare providers, and community practitioners. Together we will work with the ways supremacy culture shows up somatically, relationally, and structurally in helping professions. We will examine how dissociation, fragmentation, and inherited oppression narratives shape our work, and develop practices to interrupt these patterns.This workshop addresses diversity and cultural competence by:Examining how supremacy culture impacts Black, Indigenous, and People of Color differently than white-bodied practitioners. Naming cultural, historical, and intergenerational forces that shape power dynamics in clinical and community settings. Offering embodied, relational, and trauma-informed tools to practitioners working across racial, ethnic, cultural, and linguistic differences. Developing the capacity to recognize and intervene in oppression harm while maintaining therapeutic integrity and accountability. Participants will engage in reflective dialogue, somatic exercises, case-based examples, and guided exploration of their own positionality. The intent is not perfection but deepening collective responsibility and expanding our capacity to resist supremacy culture inside our practice and in ourselves. The workshop is designed to meet the Washington Department of Health requirement for two hours of health equity continuing education (WAC 246-12-820).The Blackfoot Wisdom that Inspired Maslow's HierarchyBy Teju Ravilochan, originally published by Esperanza Projecthttps://www.resilience.org/stories/2021-06-18/the-blackfoot-wisdom-that-inspired-maslows-hierarchy/ Danielle (00:05):Be with you. Yeah. Well, it seems like from week to week, something drastically changes or some new trauma happens. It reminds me a lot of 2020.Jenny  (00:15):Yeah. Yeah, it really does. I do feel like the positive in that is that similar to 2020, it seems like people are really looking for points of connection with one another, and I feel like there was this lull on Zoom calls or trainings or things like that for a while. People were just burned out and now people are like, okay, where in the world can I connect with people that are similar to me? And sometimes that means neighbors, but sadly, I think a lot of times that means people in other states, a lot of people that can feel kind of siloed in where they are and how they're doing right now.Danielle (00:56):Yeah, I was just thinking about how even I have become resistant to zoom or kind of tired and fed up and then all of a sudden meeting online or texting or whatever feels safer. Okay. Again.About? Just all the shit and then you go out in the real world and do I messed that up? I messed that up. I messed that up. I think that's part of it though, not living in perfection, being willing to be really messy. And how does that play out? How does that play out in our therapeutic practices?Jenny (01:50):Yeah, totally. I've been thinking a lot about messiness lately and how we actually come into the world. I think reveling often in messiness for anyone that's tried to feed a young child or a toddler and they just have spaghetti in their hair and everything's everywhere. And then we work so hard to tell kids, don't be messy. Don't be messy. And I'm like, how much of this is this infusion of purity culture and this idea that things should be clean and tidy? That's really actually antithetical to the human experience, which is really messy and nuanced and complicated. But we've tried to force these really binary, rigid, clean systems or ways of relating so that when things inevitably become messy, it feels like relationships just snap, rather than having the fluidity to move through and navigate,Danielle (02:57):It becomes points of stop or I can't be in contact with you. And of course, there's situations where that is appropriate and there might be ways I can connect with this person in this way, but maybe not on social media for instance. That's a way that there's a number of people I don't connect with on social media intentionally, but am willing to connect with them offline. So yeah, so I think there's a number of ways to think about that. I think just in subverting supremacy, Abby and I talked a lot about consent and how also bringing your own agency and acknowledging your yeses and your nos and being forthcoming. Yeah, those are some of the things, but what are you and Tamis going to touch on?Jenny (03:47):I'd be curious to hear what you think inhibits somebody's agency and why? Because I thought that was so great. How much you talked about consent and if you were to talk about why you think that that is absent or missing or not as robust as it could be, what are your thoughts on that?Danielle (04:06):Well, sometimes I think we look in our society to people in power to kind of play out fantasies. So we look for them to keep checking in with us and it, it goes along with maybe just the way the country was formed. I talked a little bit about that this week. It was formed for white men in power, so there was obviously going to be hierarchical caste system down from there. And in each cast you're checking with the powerful person up. So I think we forget that that plays out in our day-to-day relationships too.(04:44):And I think it's a hard thing to acknowledge like, oh, I might have power as a professional in this realm, but I might enter this other realm where then I don't have power and I'm deferring to someone else. And in some ways those differences and those hierarchies serve what we're doing and they're good. And in other ways I think it inhibits us actually bringing our own agency. It's like a social conditioning against it, along with there's trauma and there's a lot of childhood sexual abuse in our country a lot. And it's odd that it gets pinned on immigrants when where's the pedophiles? We know where some of them are, but they're not being pursued. So I think all of these dynamics are at play. What do you think about thatJenny (05:32):When you talk? It makes me think about something I've just learned in the last couple years, which is like Maslow's hierarchy of needs, which has been turned into this pyramid that says you need all of these things before you can be self-actualizing. What is actually interesting is that Mazo sort of misappropriated that way of thinking from the Blackfoot nation that he had been living and researching, and the Blackfoot people were saying and have been saying and do say that they believe we come into the world as self-actualized. And so the culture and the community is designed to help that sovereign being come into their full selves.(06:20):And so actually the way that the pyramid was created was sort of the antithesis of what the Blackfoot people were trying to communicate and how they were living. But unfortunately, white psychology said, well, we can't acknowledge that this was from indigenous people, so we're going to whitewash it. We're going to say that Maslow created it and it's going to be wrong, basically. And I'm just thinking about the shift of if we view people and water and plants and animals and planets as sovereign, as beings that have self-actualizing agency, then of course we're going to probably want to practice consent and honoring them. Whereas if we view the world and people as these extractive things and objects, we're going to feel entitled to take what we want or what we feel like we deserve.Danielle (07:32):I'm not surprised though that we've extracted that hierarchy of needs from somewhere because as I write about, I've been writing a lot as I think about moral injury and what's happened to our society and how trauma's become a weapon, like a tool of empire in white bodies to use them as machinery, as weapons. One of the things I've thought a lot about is just this idea that we're not bodies, we're just part of the machine.(08:03):So then it would make sense to make a form, here's your needs, get this shit done so you can keep moving.Jenny (08:12):Totally. We just started watching Pluribus last night. Do you know what this is?(08:24):Is this really interesting show where there's this virus that comes from outer space and it makes everyone in the world basically a hive mind. And so there's immediately no wars, no genocide, nothing bad is going on,(08:43):Nobody is thinking for themselves except for this one woman who for whatever reason was not infected with the virus.(08:52):And it's so interesting and it's kind of playing with this idea of she is this white woman from America that's like, well, we should be able to think for ourselves. And everyone else is like, but wars are gone. And it's really interesting. I don't know where the show's going to actually go, but it's playing with this idea of this capitalistic individuation. I'm my own self, so I should be able to do that. And I know this, it's this place of tension with I am a sovereign being and I am deeply interconnected to all other beings. And so what does agency look like with being responsible to the people I'm in relationship with, whether I know them or not,Danielle (09:42):What is agency? I think we honor other people by keeping short accounts. I don't think I've done a good job of that much in my life. I think it's more recent that I've done that. I think we honor other people by letting them know when we're actually find something joyful about what our encounter with them or pointing out something loving. And I think we honor our community when we make a clear yes or clear no or say I can't say yes or no. Why can I tell you yes or no at a later date when we speak for ourselves, I think we give into our community, we build a pattern of agency. And I think as therapists, I think sometimes we build the system where instead of promoting agency, we've taken it away.Jenny (10:35):Yeah, I agree. I agree. I think I was just having a conversation with a supervisee about this recently. I who has heard a lot of people say, you shouldn't give your clients psychoeducation. You shouldn't give them these moments of information. And I was like, well, how gatekeeping is that? And they were having a hard time with, I've heard this, but this doesn't actually feel right. And I do think a lot of times this therapist, it's like this idea that I'm the professional, and so I'm going to keep all of this information siloed from you where I think it's ethical responsibility if we have information that would help things make more sense for our clients to educate them. And I often tell my clients in our first session, my job is to work myself out of a job. And unfortunately, I think that there's a lot in a lot of people in the therapy world who think it's their job to be someone's therapist forever. And I think I'm like, how do we start with, again, believing in someone's agency and ability to self-actualize and we just get to sort of steward that process and then let them go do whatever they're going to do.Danielle (11:54):I think that also speaks to can therapy change? I think the model I learned in graduate school has revolved a lot around childhood trauma, which is good. So glad I've been able to grow and learn some of those skills that might help me engage someone. I also think there's aspects I think of our society that are just missing in general, that feel necessary in a therapeutic relationship like coaching or talking from your own personal experience, being clear about it, but also saying like, Hey, in these years this has happened. I'm not prescribing this for you, but this is another experience. I think on one hand in grad school, you're invited to tell your story and know your story and deal with counter transference and transference and try to disseminate that in some sort of a blank way. That's not possible. We're coming in with our entire identity front and center. Yeah, those are just thoughts I have.Jenny (12:59):Yeah, I think that's so good. And it makes me think about what whiteness does to people, and I think a lot of times it puts on this cloak or this veneer of not our fullest truest selves. And I don't even think that white people are often conscious that that's what we're doing. I remember I am in this group where we're practicing what does it look like to be in our bodies in cross-racial experiences? And there's a black woman in my cohort that said, do you ever feel separate from your whiteness? Can you ever get a little bit of space from your whiteness? And I was like, honestly, I don't feel like I can. I feel like I'm like Jim Carrey in the mask, where the more I try to pull it off, the more it snaps back and it's like this crustacean that has encapsulated us. And so how do we break through with our humanity, with our messiness to these constraints that whiteness has put on us?(14:20):Oh, tomorrow. Oh my gosh. So I'm going to do a little bit of a timeline of Jenny's timeline, my emotional support timeline. I told Tamis, I was like, I can get rid of this if you don't think it's important, but I will tell you these are my emotional support timelines. And they were like, no, you can talk about 'em. So I'm just doing two slides on the timeline. I have dozens of slides as Danielle, but I'm just going to do two really looking at post civil rights movement through the early two thousands and what purity culture and Christian nationalism did to continue. What I'm talking about is the trope of white womanhood and how disembodied that is from this visceral self and organism that is our body. And to me is going to talk about essentially how hatred and fear and disgust of the black queer body is this projection of those feelings of fear, of shame, of guilt, of all of those things that are ugly or disavowed within the system of Christian nationalism, that it gets projected and put on to black bodies. And so how do we then engage the impact of our bodies from these systems in our different gendered and sexual and racial locations and socioeconomic locations and a million other intersectional ways? As you and Abby talked about the power flower and how many different parts of our identity are touched by systems of oppression and power(16:11):And how when we learn to move beyond binary and really make space for our own anger, our own fear, our own disgust, our own fill in the blank, then we are less likely to enable systems that project that on to other bodies. That's what we're going to be talking about, and I'm so excited.Danielle (16:32):Just that, just that NBD, how do you think about being in your body then on a screen? There's been a lot of debate about it after the pandemic. How do you think about that? Talking about something that's so intimate on a screen? How are you thinking about it?Jenny (16:52):Totally. I mean, we are on a screen, but we're never not in our bodies. And so I do think that there is something that is different about being in a room with other bodies. And I'm not going to pretend I know anything about energy or the relational field, but I know that I have had somatic work done on the screen where literally my practitioner will be like, okay, I'm touching your kidney right now and I will feel a hand on my kidney. And it's so wild. That probably sounds so bizarre, and I get it. It sounds bizarre to me too, but I've experienced that time and space really are relative, I think. And so there is something that we can still do in our shared relational space even if we're not in the same physical space.(17:48):I do think that for some bodies, that actually creates a little bit more safety where I can be with you, but I'm not with you. And so I know I can slam my computer shut, I can walk out of the room, I can do whatever I need to do, whether I actually do that or not. I think there sometimes can be a little bit of mobility that being on the screen gives us that our bodies might not feel if we are in a shared physical space together. And so I think there's value and there's difference to both. What about you?Danielle (18:25):Well, I used it a lot because I started working during the pandemic. So it was a lifeline to get clients and to work with clients. I have to remind myself to slow down a lot when I'm on the screen. I think it's easier to be more talkative or say more, et cetera, et cetera. So I think pacing, sometimes I take breaks to breathe. I used to have self-hate for that or self-criticism or the super ego SmackDown get body slammed. But no, I mean, I try to be down to earth who I would prefer to be and not to be different on screen. I don't know that that's a strategy, but it's the way I'm thinking about it.Jenny (19:20):As someone who has co-lead therapy spaces with you in person, I can say, I really appreciate your, and these things that feel unrushed and you just in the moment for me, a lot of times I'm like, oh yeah, we're just here. We don't have to rush to what's next. I think that's been such a really powerful thing I've gleaned from co-facilitating and holding space with you.Danielle (19:51):Oh, that's a sweet thing to say. So when you think about subverting supremacy in our practices, us as therapists or just in the world we are in, what's an area that you find yourself stuck in often if you're willing to share?Jenny (20:12):I think for me and a lot of the clients that I work with, it is that place of individualism. And this is, I think again, the therapy model is you come in, you talk about your story, talk about your family of origin, talk about your current relationships, and it becomes so insular. And there is of course things that we can talk about in our relationships, in our family, in our story. And it's not like those things happen in a, and I think it does a disservice, and especially for white female clients, I think it enables a real sense of agency when it's like, I'm going through the hardest thing that anyone's ever gone through. And it's like, open your eyes. Look at what the world is going through you, and we and us are so much more capable than white womanhood would want you to assume that you are. And so I think that a lot of times for white women, for a lot of my work is growing their capacity to feel their agency because I think that white patriarchal Christian capitalistic supremacy only progresses so long as white women perform being these damsels that need rescue and need help. And if we really truly owned our self-actualizing power, it would really topple the system, I believe.Danielle (21:53):Yeah, I mean, you see the shaking of the system with Renee, Nicole Goode. People don't know what to do with her. Of course, some people want to make her all bad, or the contortions they do to try to manipulate that video to say what they wanted to say. But the rattling for people that I've heard everywhere around her death and her murder, I think she was murdered in defense of her neighbors. And that's both terror inducing. And it's also like, wow, she believed in that she died for something she actually believed in.Jenny (22:54):Yeah. And I were talking about this as well in that of course we don't know, but I don't know that things would've played out the same way they played out if she wasn't clearly with a female partner. And I do think that heteronormativity had a part to play in that she was already subverting what she should be doing as a white woman by being with another woman. And I think that that is a really important conversation as well as where is queerness playing into these systems of oppression and these binary heteronormative systems. And this is my own theory with Renee, Nicole. Good. And with Alex, there is something about their final words where Nicole says, I'm not mad at you. And Alex says, are you okay? And my theory is that that is actually the moment where something snapped for these ice agents because they had their own projection on what these race traders were, and they probably dehumanized them. And so in this moment of their humanity intersecting with the projection that these agents had, I think that induced violence, not that they caused it or it was their(24:33):But I think that when our dehumanizing projections of people are interrupted with their humanity, we have a choice where we go, wait, you are not what I thought you were. Or we double down on the dehumanization. And I think that these were two examples of that collision of humanity and projection, and then the doubling down of violence and dehumanization(25:07):Yeah. It makes me think of, have you seen the sound of music?(25:13):So the young girl, she has this boyfriend that turns into a Nazi. There's this interaction towards the end of the film where he sees the family. He has this moment facing the dad, and he hasn't yet called in the other Nazis. And the dad says to him, you'll never be one of them.(25:36):And that was the moment that he snapped. And he called in the other guards. And I think it's making a point that there's something in these moments of humanity, calling to humanity is a really pivotal moment of are you going to let yourself be a human or are you going to double down in your allegiance to the systems of oppression? And so I think that what we're trying to invite with subverting supremacy is when we come to those moments, how do we choose humanity? How do we choose empathy? How do we choose kindness? And wait, I had this all wrong rather than a doubling down of violence. I don't know. Those are my thoughts. What do you think? Well,Danielle (26:27):I hadn't thought about that, but I do know that moment in sound of music, and that feels true to me, or it feels like, where do you belong? A question of where do you belong? And in the case of Alex and Nicole, I mean, in some sense the agents already knew they didn't belong with them, but to change this. But on the other hand, it feels like, yeah, maybe it is true. It just set off those alarm bells or just said like, oh, they're not one of us. Something like that.(27:19):It's a pretty intense thought. Yeah. My friend that's a pastor there in Minneapolis put out a video with Jen Hatmaker yesterday, and I watched the Instagram live of it this morning, and she talked about how she came home from the protest, and there were men all over her yard, in the neighbor's yard with machine guns. And she said they were trying to block her in, and they came up to her car and they had taken a picture of her license plate, and they're like, roll down your window. And she's like, why? And they're like, I gave you an order. She's like, but why? And then they took a picture of her face and they're like, now you have us in your database. And she's like, I'm not rolling down my window. Because when the last person did that, you shot him in the face(28:03):And she said they got out of their car and parked. And the neighbor who, I dunno why they were harassing her neighbor, she described him as a white male, but he was standing there and he was yelling at them to leave. And she said, at this time, there was like 50 neighbors out, like 50 people out on the street. And the ice van stopped, ran back, tackled him, slammed his face into the ice, beat him up, and then threw him in the back of the car and then dropped him off at the hospital or released him or something. And he had to go get wound care. And I guess just thinking about that, just the mere presence of white people that don't fit. I wonder if it's just the mere presence.Jenny (28:59):Yeah, yeah. Well, I think part of it is exposing the illusion of whiteness and this counterfeit collaboration that is supposed to mean based on melanin, that if you have this lack of melanin, this is how you're supposed to perform. And I'm really grateful that we have people with less melanin going, no, I would not that we want to die, but if my choice is to die or to give up my soul, I don't want to give up my soul.(29:50):I feel my heart pounding. It's scary. And I think there's also grief in the people I love that are choosing to not have a soul right now, to not allow space for their soul that are choosing to go into numbness and to bearing their head in the sand and to saying, we just need to have law and order. And I believe that they were made for so much more than that.(30:46):It is painful. I mean, it doesn't go(30:55):No, no. I've been watching a lot of sad movies lately because they helped me cry. One of the things that I loved when I was in Uganda was there was people who were professional whalers(31:12):They would be hired to come into funerals or ceremonies and just wail and grieve and move the group into a collective catharsis. And I really think our bodies need catharsis right now because there's so much we're taking in. There's so much we're moving through. And I think this is part of the system of white Christian supremacy, is that it has removed us from cultural practices of making guttural sounds together, of riving together, of dancing and shaking and screaming, and these things that I think our bodies really need individually and collectively. What are you doing in your body that feels even like 2% supportive with what we're navigating?Danielle (32:08):I don't know. I honestly, I've had a bad week or bad couple weeks, but I think I try to eat food that I know will taste good. That seems really silly, but I'm not eating anything I don't like.(32:27):That. Yeah, that's one thing. Yesterday I had a chance to go work out at 12 like I do every day, and I just noticed I was too fatigued, and so I just canceled. I called it in and ate lunch with someone and just, I didn't talk much, but they had a lot to say. So that was fine with me, hung out with someone. So I think, I don't know, I guess it was a hitting two needs for me, human face-to-face connection and also just actual food that tastes good to me.(33:09):Yeah. Well, so you're going to put that Maslow resource need in the chat or in the comments. Are you going to send it to me so I can put it in the(33:21):And then if people want to sign up for tomorrow and listen to you and Tamis, is that still a possibility?Jenny (33:26):It is, yeah. They can sign up, I think, until it's starting. So I don't know for sure. You should sign up for today, just by today, just in case. Yeah, I'll send you that link too.   Well, first I guess I would have to believe that there was or is an actual political dialogue taking place that I could potentially be a part of. And honestly, I'm not sure that I believe that.

Despite reform efforts that have grown in scope and intensity over the last two decades, the machine of American mass incarceration continues to flourish. In Ghost in the Criminal Justice Machine: Reform, White Supremacy, and an Abolitionist Future, formerly incarcerated activist and organizer Emile Suotonye DeWeaver argues that the root of the problem is white supremacy. During twenty-one years in prison, DeWeaver covertly organized to pass legislation impacting juveniles in California's criminal legal system; was a culture writer for Easy Street Magazine; and co-founded Prison Renaissance, an organization centering incarcerated voices and incarcerated leadership. DeWeaver draws on these experiences to interrogate the central premise of reform efforts, including prisoner rehabilitation programs, arguing that they demand self-abnegation, entrench white supremacy, and ignore the role of structural oppression. DeWeaver intervenes in contemporary debates on criminal justice and racial justice efforts with his eye-opening discussion of the tools we need to end white supremacy—both within and outside the carceral setting. Ghost in the Criminal Justice Machine adds a sharp and unique perspective to the growing discourse on racial justice, incarceration, and abolition. This episode considers: parole boards; hidden factors that extend sentences; how power is structured; why most reforms repackage inequality; and ways to restructure power. Our guest is: Emile Suotonye DeWeaver, who is a formerly-incarcerated activist and a 2022 Soros Justice Fellow. California's Governor Brown commuted his life sentence after twenty-one years for his community work. He has written for publications including the San Francisco Chronicle, the San Jose Mercury News, Colorlines, The Appeal, The Rumpus, and Seventh Wave. Our host is: Dr. Christina Gessler, who is an academic writing coach and editor. She is the creator, producer and show host of the Academic Life podcast. Playlist for listeners: Hands Up, Don't Shoot Freemans Challenge Stitching Freedom Education Behind The Wall What Might Be Carceral Apartheid No Common Ground Welcome to Academic Life, the podcast for your academic journey—and beyond! You help support the show by downloading and sharing episodes. Join us again to learn from more experts inside and outside the academy, and around the world. Missed any of the 300+ Academic Life episodes? Find them here. And thank you for listening! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/critical-theory

Despite reform efforts that have grown in scope and intensity over the last two decades, the machine of American mass incarceration continues to flourish. In Ghost in the Criminal Justice Machine: Reform, White Supremacy, and an Abolitionist Future, formerly incarcerated activist and organizer Emile Suotonye DeWeaver argues that the root of the problem is white supremacy. During twenty-one years in prison, DeWeaver covertly organized to pass legislation impacting juveniles in California's criminal legal system; was a culture writer for Easy Street Magazine; and co-founded Prison Renaissance, an organization centering incarcerated voices and incarcerated leadership. DeWeaver draws on these experiences to interrogate the central premise of reform efforts, including prisoner rehabilitation programs, arguing that they demand self-abnegation, entrench white supremacy, and ignore the role of structural oppression. DeWeaver intervenes in contemporary debates on criminal justice and racial justice efforts with his eye-opening discussion of the tools we need to end white supremacy—both within and outside the carceral setting. Ghost in the Criminal Justice Machine adds a sharp and unique perspective to the growing discourse on racial justice, incarceration, and abolition. This episode considers: parole boards; hidden factors that extend sentences; how power is structured; why most reforms repackage inequality; and ways to restructure power. Our guest is: Emile Suotonye DeWeaver, who is a formerly-incarcerated activist and a 2022 Soros Justice Fellow. California's Governor Brown commuted his life sentence after twenty-one years for his community work. He has written for publications including the San Francisco Chronicle, the San Jose Mercury News, Colorlines, The Appeal, The Rumpus, and Seventh Wave. Our host is: Dr. Christina Gessler, who is an academic writing coach and editor. She is the creator, producer and show host of the Academic Life podcast. Playlist for listeners: Hands Up, Don't Shoot Freemans Challenge Stitching Freedom Education Behind The Wall What Might Be Carceral Apartheid No Common Ground Welcome to Academic Life, the podcast for your academic journey—and beyond! You help support the show by downloading and sharing episodes. Join us again to learn from more experts inside and outside the academy, and around the world. Missed any of the 300+ Academic Life episodes? Find them here. And thank you for listening! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/sociology

We're with Devin Thomas O'Shea, author of The Veiled Prophet: Secret Societies, White Supremacy, and the Struggle for St. Louis. Most of Devin's book surrounds a Gilded Age secret society founded in St. Louis in the late 19th century. The story would probably begin and end in St. Louis if that little group for racist businessmen and politicians who liked to throw parties had fizzled out like most secret societies do. This one didn't. Founded in 1897, the Veiled Prophet Society exists to this day. Over the course of its life, it's had bank presidents, captains of industry, judges, at least one police chief, and more than one US presidential advisor as members. As Devin tells us, the organization was purposely conceived to create a venue for money to mix with politics. This makes the story of the Veiled Prophet Society also the story of how power is captured and wielded. Find Devin online: linktr.ee/devintoshea The book will be available on June 23, 2026. Preorder the book: https://www.haymarketbooks.org/books/2770-the-veiled-prophet Our long promised merch is here!! Fly your crypto-leftist flag with our personal love letter to Juan José Arévalo, philosopher and socialist president of Guatemala, and the airline he nationalized. wetwired.printful.me/ Subscribe on Patreon to support making this show, get premium only episodes, and listen to our entire back catalog. patreon.com/wetwired Music:Airglow - Spliff and Wesson (CC-BY)

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The Context of White Supremacy hosts the weekly Compensatory Call-In 01/24/25. We encourage non-white listeners to dial in with their codified concepts, new terms, observations, research findings, workplace problems or triumphs, and/or suggestions on how best to Replace White Supremacy With Justice ASAP. This weekly broadcast examines current events from across the globe to learn what's happening in all areas of people activity. We cultivate Counter-Racist Media Literacy by scrutinizing journalists' word choices and using logic to deconstruct what is reported as "news." We'll use these sessions to hone our use of terms as tools to reveal truth, neutralize Racists/White people. #ANTIBLACKNESS On the week Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s federal holiday is observed in the US, several little non-white boys and little non-white girls had their hands shackled by ICE agents for detention. Reports indicate children as young as 2 years old were detained this week. Across the pond in Zimbabwe, White farmers are asking that President Trump reverse the late Robert Mugabe's attempted counter-racist agricultural reforms. This parallels Trump and Elon Musk's claims that people classified as White in South Africa are being mistreated. #EndStageWhiteSupremacy #TheCOWS16Years INVEST in The COWS – http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: https://cash.app/$TheCOWS CALL IN NUMBER: 720.716.7300 CODE 564943#

This is the second half of our conversation with Micaiah Johnson continued from our last episode about necropolitics in Ned Beauman's 'Venomous Lumpsucker'.  Micaiah is the author of the Ashtown duology, ‘The Space Between Worlds' and ‘Those Beyond the Wall', and we spoke to her about these books in episode 49, loosely on the topic of the Multiverse but more about the social and political aspects of a future dystopia divided by extreme inequality.  Since that interview Micaiah has become Dr. Johnson, completing her PhD on those very subjects, and in this episode we focus on her PhD which is titled ‘The Unkilled: White Supremacy's Insidious Preservation of Black Lives'.  Here we delve more deeply into social and political science to understand something about the dark underbelly of inequality, violence, and frankly evil which has permeated the foundations of our civilization, and continues to do so in a shockingly relevant moment as we see the eruption of American fascism today. This is a pretty intense conversation addressing some heavy topics, but Micaiah does so with the kind of bright passionate intelligence that it takes to sustain a long fight against the darkness. Send us a messageEmail: thescienceinthefiction@gmail.comFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/743522660965257/

The Katherine Massey Book Club @ The C.O.W.S. hosts the 3rd study session on Char Adams' Black-Owned: The Revolutionary Life of the Black Bookstore. Published in 2025, Adams' new book made a number of lists for top books of the year. Listed as an "award-winning journalist, editor, and storyteller for NBC News, known for her work on race, identity, and inequitable systems," Adams is a lovely black female, Victim of Racism. This book examines the history of people classified as black in the area of the world known as the US. Specifically, Adams investigates how black people have responded to the System of White Supremacy through the lens of bookstores owned and operated by black people. C.O.W.S. listeners should know that White Supremacists have invested immense time and energy to ensure that black people do not read or have access to books. So, black bookstores must be heavily targeted places. Last week, we learned about the demise of Drum & Spear Bookstore in Washington, D.C. and Martin Sostre's now defunct Afro Asian Book Shop in Buffalo's Eastside. This shop was located on Jefferson Avenue less than 800 feet from the future TOPS Market where 10 black people would be killed in a 2022 White Terrorist attack. Adams also details Liberation Bookstore in Harlem, Hakim's Book's in Philadelphia, and Vaughn's Book Store in Detroit. All of these locations were assumed to be hubs of black "extremism" and subject to FBI surveillance and Racist thuggery. #COINTELPRO #TheCOWS16Years INVEST in The COWS – http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: https://cash.app/$TheCOWS CALL IN NUMBER: 720.716.7300 CODE 564943#

Economist Dr. Julianne Malveaux joins us with a powerful, must-hear conversation. She'll take a hard look at the Trump administration's claim that the economy is "doing great" after a year in office, digging into what is really happening with prices, the stock market, and your bottom line. Before Dr. Malveaux, Temple University professor Nah Dove will preview her new book that defines and confronts white supremacy. A critical insight for anyone who wants to understand the systems affecting our lives and our communities. "Flip That Stock," wealth coach J R Fenwick will also join us to dispel common myths about investing on Wall Street and explain how everyday people can start building wealth. LA gang interventionist Mailk Spellman will also bring his frontline experience to the mic, sharing what is really happening in some of our neighborhoods and what can be about it.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Air Date: 01-12-26 Today, Jay!, Amanda, Deon, and Erin discuss:   Ch. 1 - Why it's actually NOT a "Male Loneliness Epidemic (TM)" and even the non-crazy male influencers aren't helping Ch. 2 - Why loneliness is better understood by age, and how society has not emotionally equipped men for struggle Ch. 3 - Why American-style capitalism is the root cause of loneliness epidemic and is stranding women and mothers Ch. 4 - Why the solutions for societal loneliness don't align with fascist governments, and calling out those who would rather you stay lonely and buy stuff SOLVED! BACKSTAGE: Beyond the Algorithm (Members Only!):  "Looks Maxing" & our initial thoughts on the invasion of Venezuela"   FOLLOW US ON: YouTube (This full episode premieres on YouTube on Friday - please subscribe and share!) Bluesky Instagram Facebook Mastadon Nostr public key: npub1tjxxp0x5mcgl2svwhm39qf002st2zdrkz6yxmaxr6r2fh0pv49qq2pem0e   REFERENCES Does Anyone Care That Young Women Are Just as Lonely as Men Are? - Cosmopolitan What Did Men Do to Deserve This? - The New Yorker The male loneliness epidemic is a myth - The Quinnapiac Chronicle Don't blame women for men's loneliness. Blame capitalism - Salon America glorifies what makes it lonely, and women silently pay the price | Opinion - USA Today Unlocking Economic Mobility Through Social Connectedness - Purpose Building Communities America has a loneliness epidemic. Here are 6 steps to address it (2023) - NPR (2023) Why America Needs More Public Pools - The Atlantic     EXTRAS: Best of the Left #1433 "The legacy of White Supremacy in schools, health care and public pools" (Aired: Aug. 10, 2021)  "Winners Take All: The Elite Charade of Changing the World" by Anand Giridharadas  (If you buy this book, or another, through this link, you support indie book stores and we get a small commission! Check out other great books on our Bookshop shelf) "A Time to Be Cringe: Why Gen Z Needs Millennial Humor" (SOLVED! #29)   TAKE ACTION: No Kings Next Steps Free DC Project: FOR ALLIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY One Million Rising Trainings In a blue state? Help stop ICE overreach Find your Indivisible group - or start one   Join our Discord Server Reach us via Signal: Bestoftheleft.01 Leave a message at 202-999-3991   Produced by: Jay! Tomlinson Thanks for listening! Visit us at BestOfTheLeft.com Contact me directly at Jay@BestOfTheLeft.com Review the show on Apple Podcasts!

The Context of White Supremacy hosts the weekly Compensatory Call-In 01/17/25. We encourage non-white listeners to dial in with their codified concepts, new terms, observations, research findings, workplace problems or triumphs, and/or suggestions on how best to Replace White Supremacy With Justice ASAP. This weekly broadcast examines current events from across the globe to learn what's happening in all areas of people activity. We cultivate Counter-Racist Media Literacy by scrutinizing journalists' word choices and using logic to deconstruct what is reported as "news." We'll use these sessions to hone our use of terms as tools to reveal truth, neutralize Racists/White people. #ANTIBLACKNESS While much of the US and the world were still outraged and whining about the ICE shooting of Racist Suspect Renee Nicole Good in Minnesota, next door in Wisconsin, two White men will finally face chargers for killing Corey Stingley. The privileged black teen was accused of shoplifting approximately $6 worth of property in 2012. As opposed to calling enforcement officials or contacting the child's parents, three White Men who were not store employees summarily suffocated the black teen before enforcement officials arrived. Speaking of US history, lesser known "Civil Rights" heroine Claudette Colvin passed away this week at the age 86. Like Rosa Parks and countless other black people who were terrorized and arrested while riding Racist public transportation, Colvin's refusal to acquiesce to a Racist driver's orders were initially obscured because she was pregnant and not "respectable" for a Racist public - which included Sen. Strom Thurmond. #EndStageWhiteSupremacy #TheCOWS16Years INVEST in The COWS – http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: https://cash.app/$TheCOWS CALL IN NUMBER: 720.716.7300 CODE 564943#

The Katherine Massey Book Club @ The C.O.W.S. hosts the 2nd study session on Char Adams' Black-Owned: The Revolutionary Life of the Black Bookstore. Published in 2025, Adams' new book made a number of lists for top books of the year. Listed as an "award-winning journalist, editor, and storyteller for NBC News, known for her work on race, identity, and inequitable systems," Adams is a lovely black female, Victim of Racism. This book examines the history of people classified as black in the area of the world known as the US. Specifically, Adams investigates how black people have responded to the System of White Supremacy through the lens of bookstores owned and operated by black people. C.O.W.S. listeners should know that White Supremacists have invested immense time and energy to ensure that black people do not read or have access to books. So, black bookstores must be heavily targeted places. During the premier installment, Gus noted that Adams submits that books and reading are a part of black culture. Gus T. is incredulous. On a point with zero ambiguity, the very beginning of the book stresses that for black people to have the space and time to read, think, reflect, and exchange views on what we read about Racism is often considered a criminal act by White people. #COINTELPRO #TheCOWS16Years INVEST in The COWS – http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: https://cash.app/$TheCOWS CALL IN NUMBER: 720.716.7300 CODE 564943#

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The Context of White Supremacy hosts the weekly Compensatory Call-In 01/10/25. We encourage non-white listeners to dial in with their codified concepts, new terms, observations, research findings, workplace problems or triumphs, and/or suggestions on how best to Replace White Supremacy With Justice ASAP. This weekly broadcast examines current events from across the globe to learn what's happening in all areas of people activity. We cultivate Counter-Racist Media Literacy by scrutinizing journalists' word choices and using logic to deconstruct what is reported as "news." We'll use these sessions to hone our use of terms as tools to reveal truth, neutralize Racists/White people. #ANTIBLACKNESS The second week of 2026 was chock full of counter-racist happenings. The world continues to process Pres. Trump's violent overthrow of the Venezuelan government. President Nicolás Maduro faces chargers for "narcoterrorism" and weapons charges in New York. Meanwhile, Trump threatens that the area of the world known as Greenland may be next for regime change. Then in Minnesota, Trumps jackbooted ICE agents killed a White Woman. 37-year-old Renee Nicole Good's shooting death sparked global outrage and condemnation. White people were rolling in the streets across North America and beyond just like it was 2020 and George Floyd was just strangled. And White people switched up the food pyramid to re-emphasize the importance of eating red meat. #EndStageWhiteSupremacy #COINTELPRO #TheCOWS16Years INVEST in The COWS – http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: https://cash.app/$TheCOWS CALL IN NUMBER: 720.716.7300 CODE 564943#

The Katherine Massey Book Club @ The C.O.W.S. hosts the debut study session on Char Adams' Black-Owned: The Revolutionary Life of the Black Bookstore. Published in 2025, Adams' new book made a number of lists for top books of the year. Listed as an "award-winning journalist, editor, and storyteller for NBC News, known for her work on race, identity, and inequitable systems," Adams is a lovely black female, Victim of Racism. This book examines the history of people classified as black in the area of the world known as the US. Specifically, Adams investigates how black people have responded to the System of White Supremacy through the lens of bookstores owned and operated by black people. C.O.W.S. listeners should know that White Supremacists have invested immense time and energy to ensure that black people do not read or have access to books. So, black bookstores must be heavily targeted places. #COINTELPRO #TheCOWS16Years INVEST in The COWS – http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: https://cash.app/$TheCOWS CALL IN NUMBER: 720.716.7300 CODE 564943#

We welcome Micaiah Johnson back to the show, this time in her role as a PhD specialist on the topic of Necropolitics, which we tackled in our last episode on 'Venomous Lumpsucker' by Ned Beauman.  This episode is the first half of our conversation, where Micaiah introduces us to the topic of Necropolitics and its origins from Foucault to Mbembe.  She discusses how it pertains to Ned's book in terms of harmful practices of 'preservation' gone awry. We also talk about the tyranny of billionaires, Zohran Mamdani's win in New York, joyful hopelessness and the difference between doing good and being seen to do good. The second half of our conversation will continue in our next episode where we take a deep dive into Micaiah's PhD thesis 'White Supremacy's Insidious Preservation of Black Lives'.Send us a messageEmail: thescienceinthefiction@gmail.comFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/743522660965257/

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Nick Shirley argues that Tim Walz knew about Minnesota fraud for years and chose not to stop it. He points to past statements, campaign money questions, and political incentives, raising serious questions about who benefited and why accountability never came.

 Season 6 episode 18 rebecca  j...and therapy - 1_8_26, 10.27 AMThu, Jan 08, 2026 10:40AM • 57:28SUMMARY KEYWORDSemotional metabolization, existential threat, destabilizing changes, social media, information overload, Venezuela crisis, racial identity, colonization, anti-blackness, white privilege, immigration policies, historical context, white supremacy, interdependence, narrative controlSPEAKERSSpeaker 3, Speaker 1, Speaker 2 Jenny  00:30I think something I'm sitting with is the impossibility and the necessity of trying to metabolize what's going on in our bodies. Yeah, and it feels like this double bind where I feel like we need to do it. We need to feel rage and grief and fear and everything else that we feel, and I don't think our nervous systems have evolved to deal with this level of overwhelm and existential threat that we're experiencing, but I do believe our bodies, Yeah, need space to try to do that, yeah,yesterday, I was sitting at, I don't know what's gonna happen to people anyway, Rebecca  01:45Pretty good. I'm okay. It like everyone. I think there's just a lot of crazy like and a lot of shifting to like, things that we could normally depend on as consistent and constant are not constant anymore. And that is like, it's very, 02:11I don't even have a word I want to say, disconcerting, but that's too light. There's, it's very destabilizing to to watch things that were constants and norms just be ripped out from underneath. People on like, every day there's something new that used to be illegal and now it's legal, or vice versa. Every day there's like, this new thing, and then you're having to think, like, how is that going to impact me? Is it going to impact me? How is it going to impact the people that I care about and love? Yeah, Danielle  02:52Jenny and I were just saying, like, maybe we could talk about just what's going on in the world right now, in this moment. And Jenny, I forgot how you were saying it like you were saying that we need to give our bodies space, but we also need to find a way to metabolize it so we can take action. I'm paraphrasing, but yeah, Rebecca  03:30And I would agree, and something else that I was thinking about too is like, what do you metabolize? And how do you metabolize it? Right? Like, in terms of what's happening in Venezuela, I have people that I count very dear to me who feel like it was a very appropriate action, and and people who are very dear to me who feel like absolutely not. That's ridiculous, right? And so, and I'm aware on that particular conversation, I'm not Venezuelan. I'm not I'm very aware that I stand on the outside of that community and I'm looking in on it, going, what do I need to know in order to metabolize this? What do I not know or not understand about the people who are directly impacted by this. And so I, like, I have questions even you know about some of the stuff that I'm watching. Like, what do you metabolize and how do you come to understand it? And in a place where it's very difficult to trust your information sources and know if the source that you're you're have is reliable or accurate or or complete in it, in its detail, it feels those are reasons why, to me, it feels really hard to metabolize things i. Jenny  05:06There's this like rule or like theory thing. I wish I could remember the name of it, but it's essentially like this, this graph that falls off, and it's like, the less you know about something, the more you think you know about it, and the more confident you are. And the more you know, the less confident you are. And it just explains so well our social media moment, and people that read like one headline and then put all these reels together and things talking about it. And on one hand, I'm grateful that we live in an age where we can get information about what's going on. And at the other end, like, you know, I know there, there's somewhere, some professor that's spent 15 years researching this and being like it is. There's so much here that people don't know and understand. And yeah, it feels like the sense of urgency is on purpose. Like that we just have to like it feels like people almost need to stay up to date with everything. But then I also wonder how much of that is whiteness and this idea of like, saviorism and like, if I'm just informed, then I'm doing my duty and like what I need to do and and what does it look like to slow down and be with things that are right in front of US and immediate, without ignoring these larger, transnational and global issues. Yeah, it feels so complicated. Rebecca  06:55I do think the sense of urgency is on purpose. I think that the overwhelming flood of information at this time is not just a function of like social media, but I think, I think the release of things and the timing of things is intentional, I think, and so I think there's a lot of Let's throw this one thing in front of you, and while you everybody's paying attention to that, let's do 10 other things behind closed doors that are equally, if not more, dangerous and harmful than the thing that we're letting You see up front. And so I think some of that is intentional. So I think that that sense of almost flooding is both about social media, yes, but it's also about, I think some of this is intentional, on purpose, flooding Jenny  08:01I think it's wise to ask those questions and try to sort of be paying attention to both what is being said and what is not being said. Rebecca  08:16Yeah, it may makes me think, even as you named Venezuela like my understanding is that that happened either the day of or the day before Congress was supposed to explain why they had redacted the Epstein files, and it just the lengths that they will go to to distract from actually releasing the files and showing the truth about Trump and Epstein and everyone else that was involved is, Speaker 2  08:52well, yeah, yeah, yes. And there's something in me that also wants to say, like it what happened around Venezuela might be 09:32and its natural resources is not a small thing. And then I was reminded today by someone else, this is also not the first time this country has done that. It might be the first time it was televised to the world, but so I don't Yes on the distraction. And I agree with you times 1000 10:09hard about this moment, is that there's all this stuff that's happening that's like absolutely we would be looking at, how do you possibly put any of that in any sense of order that it makes any sense? Because, yes, the FC, I mean, it's horrific. What we're talking about is likely in those files, and if they are that intent on them not coming out, if it's worse than what we already know, that's actually scary. Danielle  10:44Yeah, I agree that this isn't new, because this is it feels like, you know, Ibram X kendi was like, talking about, hey, like, this is what I'm talking about. This is what I'm talking about. And it feels as though, when we talk, I'm just going to back up, there's been this fight over what history are we teaching, you know, like, this is dei history, or this is, you know, critical race history. But in the end, I think we actually agree on the history more than we think. We just don't disagree on where we should take it. Now, what I think is happening is that, and you hear Donald J Trump talk about the Monroe Doctrine, or Vance talk about Manifest Destiny, or Stephen Miller, these guys talk about these historical things. They're talking about the history of colonization, but from a lens of like, this was good, this was not a mistake. Quote, slavery was not necessarily a bad thing. You have like Doug Wilson and these other Christian nationalists like unapologetically saying there was slavery. It's been throughout all time. This was, quote, a benefit people, you know, you have Charlie Kirk saying, you know, in the 1940s like pre civil rights movement, quote, I think he said, quote, black people were happier. He has said these things. So in my, in my mind, yes, they, they're they're saying, like, we don't want X taught in schools. But at the same time, they actually, we actually kind of agree on history. What we don't agree on is what we should do with it, or or who's in com, who's in control. Now, I think what they're saying is, this was history. We liked it, and we don't like the change in it, and we're just gonna keep doing it. I mean, they literally have reinstated the Monroe Doctrine, which is so racist, it's like, and manifest destiny is like, so fucked up to, like, put that back in place, like Rebecca said, I'm not, I'm not negating the murder that just happened in Minneapolis, but this concept that you you can tell who's human and that these resources belong to us, the only person human in the room, then, is the White man. I don't know. Does that make sense? It Rebecca  13:24makes me think of you know, when you talk about sort of identity formation, or racial identity formation, when you are talking about members of the majority culture and their story is, is this manifest destiny? Is this colonization and and the havoc and the harm that that they engaged in against whole people groups in order to gain the power? Do they, sort of, on a human level, metabolize the their membership in that group, and what that group has done the heart the and that it's come by its power by harming other people, right? And so in order to sort of metabolize that you can minimize it and dismiss it as not harmful. So that's the story, that slavery is not a bad thing, and that black people are happier under slavery, right? You can deny it and say that it didn't happen, or if it did, it wasn't me. That's Holocaust deniers, right? That didn't happen. I think what we're looking at now is the choice that some of the powers that be are making in order to metabolize this is to just call what is evil good, to just rewrite. Not the facts, but the meaning that that we draw from those facts. And then to declare, I have the right to do this, and when I do this, it makes me more powerful, it makes me a better leader, and it establishes rules and norms about right versus wrong. I think they're rewriting the meaning making as a way to kind of come to terms with what what they've done. And so I think that statement by the Vice President about you no longer have to apologize for being white in this country is actually about more than an apology. That was that is now, a couple of weeks later, after watching what happened in Venezuela, watching what happened in Minneapolis, watching what they're doing about Greenland, you go like, that's just a statement that we're going to do whatever the heck we want, and you cannot stop us, and we will do it without apology, and we will make you believe. We will craft a narrative that what is wrong is actually right, Jenny  16:43it just, it's, it's wild to me that our last time, or two times ago that we were talking, I was talking about Viola liozo, who was the white woman who drove black people during the bus boycott and was murdered, and the what feels like is being exposed is the precarity of white privilege, like it is Real. It exists, and so long as white people stay within the bounds of what is expected of them, and Renee good did not and I think that that is it Rebecca  17:36exposes what's already true, that I think racism and race are constructs to protect the system, and so if, no matter what your melanin is, if you start to move against the system, you immediately are at risk in a different way, and yet still not in the same way. You know, like there are already plenty of people who have died and been disappeared at the hands of ice. What happened is not new. What is new is that it did happen to a white woman, and it reveals something about where we are in the fulcrum, tip, I think, of of power and what's happening? 18:30because I think the same, like you said, is true during the Civil Rights Movement, right that in there, they're really they're most of their stories we don't know. There's a handful of them that we know about these, these white the people who believe themselves to be white, to quote on history codes, who were allies and who acted on behalf of the Civil Rights Movement and who lost their life because of it. There's probably way more than we know, because, again, those are stories that are not allowed to be told. But it makes me wonder if, if the exposure that you're talking about Jenny is because we were at some sort of tipping point right, in a certain sense, by the time you elect Obama in oh eight, you could make the argument that something of racial equality is beginning to be institutionalized in the country, right? I'm not saying that he solved everything and he was this panacea, but I'm saying when the system, when the people in the system, find a way to bring equilibrium. That's the beginning of something being institutionalized, right? And, and, and did that set off this sort of mass panic in the majority culture to say that that cannot happen? Mm. Yeah, and and, so there is this backlash to make sure that it doesn't happen, right? And to the extent that it's beginning to be institutionalized, that means that some members of the majority culture have begun to agree with the institutionalism of some kind of equilibrium, some type of equity, otherwise you wouldn't see it start to seep into the system itself, right? And it means that there are people who open doors, there are people who left Windows cracked open there, you know, there are, right? I mean, somebody somewhere that had the key to the door, left it unlocked, so, so that, so that a marginalized community could find an entrance, right? And and so it does make me think about, are we? Are we looking at this sort of historical tipping point? And what's being exposed is all these people are the majority culture who are on the wrong side of this argument. We need you to get back in line. I mean, if you read ta nehisi Coates book, eight years in power, he makes a sort of similar argument that that's what happened around reconstruction, right? You have the Emancipation Proclamation being signed, slavery is now illegal in the United States, and there's this period during reconstruction where there's mass sort of accomplishment that happens in the newly freed slave community. And then you see the rise of the Ku Klux Klan and the very violent backlash. This is not going to happen. We're not. We're not. And when, when I say what happened during Reconstruction, is like again, the beginning of the institutionalizing of that kind of equilibrium and equity that came out of the Emancipation Proclamation. Right? My kids were part of a genealogy project a few years back, and one of the things that they uncovered is they have a ancestor who was elected to this 22:27and while he was in office, he was instrumental in some of the initial funding that went to Hampton to establish Hampton University, right? And so that's the kind of institutionalized equity that starts to happen in this moment, and then this massive violent backlash, the rise of the Ku Klux, Klan, the black codes. We this is not going to happen. We're not doing this right. And so it does make me wonder if what we're actually looking at the exposure that you're talking about, Jenny is like the beginning of the this sort of equilibrium that could happen when you when things start to get institutionalized and and the powers that be going No way, no How, no dice, not doing that. Danielle  23:21I think that's true, and especially among immigrant communities. I don't know if you know, at the beginning, they were saying, like, we're just going after the violent criminals, right? And this morning, I watched on a news source I really trust, a video of a Somali citizen, a US citizen, but as a Somali background, man pulled over by ice like he's an Uber driver in Minneapolis. And they like, surrounded him, and he's like, wait a minute, I thought you were going after the violent criminals. And they're like, Well, you know, like, Are you a US citizen? He's like, Well, where's your warrant? And they're like, we're checking your license plate. He's like, well, then you know who I am. And then they want him to answer, and they keep provoking and they're like, Oh, you have a video on us. And he's like, Oh, you have a GoPro. He's like, I thought you were just going after violent criminals, you know? And they're like, no, we want to know if you're a US citizen. So in a sense, you know, there was all this rhetoric at the beginning that said, we you have to do it the right way. And I remember at the very beginning feeling afraid for Luis like, oh, man, shit, we did this the right way. I don't know if that's really guarantee. I don't think that's a guarantee of any guarantee of anything. And it's not doing well paying all the bills like it's expensive to become a citizen. It is not easy. Paying all the bills, going to the fingerprints, get in the test, hiring a lawyer, making sure you did it. Like cross, all your T's dot, all your eyes, just to get there and do it. And then they're saying, you know, and then they're saying, Well, prove it. Well, what do you have on your record? Or people showing up after having done all that work? They're showing up to their swearing in to be US citizens. And they're saying, Sorry, nope. And they're like, taken by ice. So you can see what you're saying. Rebecca first, it says violent criminals. Yeah, and you know, you have to have like, an FBI fingerprint background check. You had to do this, like, 10 years ago. Whenever Luis became a citizen, that's like, serious shit, you get your background check. So by the time you're into that swearing in, they know who you are, like you're on record, they know who you are, so they've done all that work. So this is not about being a criminal. This is about there's somebody successful that's possibly not white, that has done all the right things, paid all the fees, has the paperwork, and you don't like them because they're not white. And I think that's directly related to anti blackness. Rebecca  25:40Yeah. Say more about the anti blackness, because we started this conversation talking about Somalis and and Somalis are only the latest target of ice, right? It started with people of Latino descent. So how does that for you come down to anti blackness? Oh, for me, Danielle  26:02I see it as a as a projection. I can't tolerate my feelings about, quote, people of color, but let's be more specific about black people, and I can't tolerate those feelings. And for a time, I think we were in this sliver of time where it was not quite it was still like gaining social momentum to target black folks, but it was still a little bit off limits, like we were still like, oh, it's the criminals. Oh, it's these bad, bad guys. I know it's just the Latinos or, Oh, it's just this, this and this and this. But then if you notice, you start watching these videos, you start noticing they're like, they're grabbing, like, Afro Latinos. They're like, they're like, pushing into that limit, right? Or Puerto Rican folks they've grabbed, who are US citizens? So now you see the hate very clearly moving towards black folks. Like, how does an untrained $50,000 bonus ice agent know if, quote, a black person, quote, you know, if we're talking in the racial construct, has a Somali background or not, right? Right? It actually feels a little bit to me like grooming, right? Rebecca  27:24I I've asked myself this question several times in the past couple of years, like, and if, and I think some of the stuff that I've read like about the Holocaust, similar question, right? Was like, is racism really the thing that is that is driving this or is it something else, like at the at the heart of it, at the end of the day, are you really driven by racialized hate of someone that is different than you? Or is that just the smoke screen that the architects of this moment are using because you'll fall for it, right? And so I do think like you start with the criminals, because that's socially acceptable, and then you move very quickly from the criminals to everybody in that ethnic group, right? And so you see the supreme court now saying that you can stop and frisk somebody on the basis of a surname 28:22or an accent, Rebecca  28:26right? And it feels very much like grooming, because what was socially acceptable was first this very small subset, and now we've expanded to a whole people group, and now we've jumped from one country to another, which is why I think you know MLK is quote about injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. If you're going to come for one subset, you will eventually come for everyone, until the only subset is those in power versus those that aren't. Danielle  29:05Or just, let me just ask you this question then, so you got he's enforcing immigration bans on certain countries. Guess who the where the majority of those countries are located, Africa. Now, why didn't he do that with Latin the Latin America? It's very interesting, Rebecca  29:29and my fear is that it's coming right again. It's socially acceptable in this country to be anti black. Everyone understands that, and then you move from anti black to anti everybody else. And what you say is this, this people group is closer to black than white, and for that reason, they're out too, which is also not a new argument in this country. Jenny  29:58It makes me think of someone you. To this illustration, then I will not get it probably exactly how it is, but it was basically like if I have a room of 10 people, and I need to control those 10 people, I don't need to control those 10 people. I need to make a scapegoat out of three of them, and then the other seven will be afraid to be that scapegoat. And I feel like that is a part of what's going on, where, viscerally, I think that, again, like white bodies know, like it is about race and it's not about race, like race is the justification of hatred and tyrannical control. And I really love the book by Walter Rodney, how Europe underdeveloped Africa. And he traces like what Europe, and I would include the US now has done to the continent of what is so called Africa, and it didn't in the end, that it was used to create race and racism in order to justify exploitation and of people and resources. And so it's like, yeah, I think at the end of the day, it's really not about race, and it is because of the way in which that's been used to marginalize and separate even from the construction of whiteness, was to try to keep lower socioeconomic whites from joining with formerly enslaved black people and indigenous people to revolt against the very few people that actually hold power, like there are way more people that lack power. But if, if those in power can keep everyone siloed and divided and afraid, then they get to stay in power. Danielle  32:01That's where I come back to history. And I feel like, I feel like these guys like JD Vance and Stephen Miller love our history and hate the parts of it that are leading towards liberation. For people, they love that they love the colonization. They talk about it. They've there's a fantasy. They're living in, this fantasy of what could be, of what was for one set of people, and that was white men. And they're enacting their fantasy on us in some ways, you know, I think the question of, you know, Jenny, you always deal with bodies, and, you know, you're kind of known for that shit, I think, I think, just like, but the question of, like, who has a body when, when? Like, when does the body count? You know, like, when does it matter? And it feels like that's where race becomes really useful, 33:09because it gets to say, like, you know, like, that white lady, that's not really, that's not really a murder, you know. Or, you know, George Floyd, like, Nah, that's not really it, you know, just com, and they knew there's so many other lynchings and murders. Like, we can't cover them all. I just think it's just speaks to, like, who, you know, another way to say it'd be like, who's human and who's not. Jenny  33:42And like I sent you. Danielle, there was a post yesterday that someone said, those white lives matter. People seem to be really silent right now. And it just exposes, like the the hypocrisy, even in that and the, I think, the end of not the end, because racial privilege is still there, but, but this moment is exposing something, I think, as you're naming Rebecca, like it feels like this really scary tipping, and maybe hopeful tipping, where it's like there's enough, maybe fear or grasping of power, that there's enough desperation to execute a white woman, which historically and now, I think it says something about where we are in this moment. And I don't know exactly what yet, but I think it's, it's very exposing. Rebecca  34:43Yeah, but my what floats across my mind when you say that is really what has been the narrative or trajectory for white women? Because I think if you start to pull on stories like Emmett Till. 35:01Soul, and you realize what has been done in the name of protecting white women that doesn't actually feel like protection, right, right? And so, so again, you almost have this sense of like white femininity being this pawn, right? And you and you can have this narrative that that sounds like it's protection, sounds like it's value, but really it's not right. I only pull that out and use it when it when it gives me permission to do what I really want to do, right? 35:43And so in this moment. Now, you know, I mean, Emmett Till died because he was accused of looking inappropriately at a white woman, right? More recently, that incident with the the bird watcher in Central Park, right? I mean, his freedom is is under threat because of a white woman and, and then how do we go from that to ice killing a white woman and, and what like you said? What does that actually say about the value of white women, Was it, was it ever really recognized by the powers that be, right? Or is that like a straw man that I put up so I can have permission to do whatever I want? Jenny  36:36Absolutely, yeah, I think the trope of protecting white womanhood. It's it's always given women privilege and power, but that is only in proximity to white men and performing white womanhood. And you know, as you were talking about, the rise of lynchings, it did begin after reconstruction, and it really coincided with the first movie ever shown in theaters, which was Birth of a Nation they showed, yeah, white men in blackface, sexually assaulting a white woman, and the absolute frenzy and justification that that evoked was, we're protecting our white women, which was really always about protecting racial and class privilege, not the sovereignty of the bodies of white women, Rebecca  37:33right, right? And so we're back to your original thought, that what now is exposed, you know, with what happened in Minnesota is it's not really about protecting her and she's expendable. She is, quote, a domestic terrorist 37:56now so that we can justify what we're doing, Jenny  38:15which I think subconsciously at least white bodies have always known like there is something of I am safe and I am protected and I am privileged, so long as I keep performing whiteness. Rebecca  38:39I mean, the thing that scares me about that moment is that now we've gone Danielle from the criminals to the brown skinned citizens to white women who can be reclassified and recast as Domestic Terrorists if you don't toe the line, right? They're coming for everybody, because, because now we have a new category of people that ice has permission to go after, right? And again, it reminds me, if you look back at the black codes, which, again, got established during that same time period as you're talking about Birth of a Nation, Jenny, it became illegal for black people to do a whole host of things, to congregate, to read all kinds of things, right to vote, and in some states, it became illegal for white people to assist them in accomplishing any of those tasks. I Yeah, Danielle  39:53I mean, it's just the obliteration of humanity like the. Literal like, let me any humanity that can you can connect with your neighbor on let me take that away. Let me make it illegal for you to have that human share point with your neighbor. I really, that really struck me. I think it was talking about the the Minnesota mayor saying they're trying to get you to see your neighbor as like, less than human. He's like, don't fall for it. Don't fall for it. And I agree, like, we can't fall for it. I'm mean, it's like that. I Jenny  40:45don't know if you know that famous quote from Nazi Germany that was, like, they came for the Jews. And I didn't say anything because I wasn't a Jew. They, you know? And we've seen this, and we've all grown up with this, and the fact that so many people collectively have been like, well, you know, I'm not a criminal, well, I'm not an immigrant, well, I'm not, and it's like it this beast is coming for everybody, Rebecca  41:13yeah, well, and I, you know, I think That as long as we have this notion of individualism that I only have to look out for me and mine, and it doesn't matter what happens to anyone else. That is allowed the dynamic that you're talking about Jenny is allowed to flourish and until we come to some sense of interdependence until we come to some sense of the value of the person sitting next to me, and until we come to some sense of, if it isn't well with them, it cannot possibly be well with me. That sort of sense of, Well, I'm not a criminal, I'm not a Jew, so I don't have to worry about it is gonna flourish. 42:09Yesterday, I jumped42:12on Facebook for a second, and somebody that I would consider a dear friend had a lengthy Facebook post about how in favor he was of the President's actions in Venezuela, and most of his rationale was how this person, this dictator, was such a horrible person and did all of these horrible things. And my first reaction was, like, very visceral. I don't, I can't even finish this post like, I just, I mean, this is very visceral, like, and, and I don't want to talk to you anymore, and I'm not sure that our 20 plus years of friendship is sufficient to overcome how, how viscerally I am against the viewpoint that you just articulated, and I find myself, you know, a day later, beginning to wonder, Where is there some value in his perspective as a Latino man, what, what is his experience like that, that he feels so strongly about the viewpoint that he feels? And I'm not saying that he's right. I'm saying that if we don't learn to pause for a second and try to sit in the shoes of the other person before dismissing their value as a human. We will forever be stuck in the loop that we're in, right? I don't you know, I don't know that I will change my opinion about how much as an American, I have problems with the US president, snatching another leader and stealing the resources of their country. But I'm trying to find the capacity to hear from a man of Latino descent the harm that has been done to the people of Venezuela under this dictator, right? And I have to make myself push past that visceral reaction and try to hear something of what he's saying. And I would hope that he would do the same. I. Danielle  45:06I don't have words for it. You know, it just feels so deep, like it feels like somewhere deep inside the dissonance and also the want to understand, I think we're all being called, you know, Rebecca, this moment is, you know, this government, this moment, the violence, it's, it's, it's extracting our ability to stay with people like and it's such a high cost to stay with people. And I get that, I'm not saying it isn't, but I think what you're talking about is really important. Rebecca  45:57like you said, Jenny earlier, when you were talking about like, the more you know about something, the less confident you are, right? It's like, I can name, I am not Venezuelan, right? I can name I don't even think I know anybody who's from Venezuela, and if I do, I haven't taken the time to learn that you're actually from Venezuela, right, right? And I don't know anything about the history or culture of that country or the dictator that that was taken out of power. But I have seen, I can see in my friend's Facebook post that that's, it's a very painful history that he feels very strongly about. I so mostly that makes me as a black American, pause on how, on how much I want To dismiss his perspective because it's different than mine. Jenny  47:22I yeah, it also makes me think of how we're so conditioned to think in binaries and like, can there be space to hold the impossible both and where it's like, who am I to say whether or not people feel and are liberated or not in another country? I guess time will tell to see what happens. But for those that are Venezuelan and that are celebrating the removal of Maduro like can that coexist with the dangerous precedent of kidnapping a leader of a foreign country and starting immediately to steal their resources and and how do we Do this impossible dance of holding how complex these these experiences are that we're trying to navigate Rebecca  48:29and to self declare on national TV that like you're the self appointed leader of the country until, until whenever right some arbitrary line that you have drawn that you will undoubtedly change six times. I mean the danger of that precedent. It is I don't have vocabulary for how problematic that is. Danielle  48:57I don't mean to laugh, but if you didn't believe in white supremacy before, I would be giving you a lesson, and this is how it works, and it's awesome. Jenny  49:10And like you're saying, Rebecca, like I love books are coming to me today. There's another one called How to hide an empire and it Chase. It tracks from western expansion in what is now known as the United States to imperialism in the Philippines, in Puerto Rico, like in all of these places where we have established Dominion as a nation, as an empire, and what feels new is how televised and public this is, that people are being forced to confront it, hopefully in a different way, and maybe there can be more of this collective like way to psych it. This isn't what I'm supporting, because. I think for so long, this two party system that we've been force fed has a lot of difference when it comes to internal politics in the United States, but when it comes to transnational and international politics, it's been pretty much very similar for Democrats and Republicans in terms of what our nation is willing to do to other nations that we are conditioned not to think about. And so I think there's a hope. There's a desire for a hope for me to be like, Okay, can we see these other nations as humans and what the US has always done since the beginning. Rebecca  50:45you know, there's what actually happened, and then there's the history book story that we tell about what happened, right? And it like, it like what Danielle said. It appears to me that white supremacy is just blatantly at play, right? Like they're not hiding it at all. They're literally telling you, I can walk I can walk into another country, kidnap its leader and steal its resources. And I will tell you, that's what I'm doing. I will show you video footage of me intercepting oil tankers. I right like, and I will televise the time, place and location of my meeting with all the oil executives to get the oil um and and I'd like to be able to say that that is a new moment in history, and that what feels different is that we've never been so blatant about it, but I'm not sure that's true, right? I would love to have a time machine and be able to go back in some other point in time in American history and find out what they printed on the front page of the newspaper while they were stealing Africans from Africa or all the other while they were committing genocide against all the Native American tribes and all the other places and countries and people groups that the United States has basically taken their people and their resources. And so I don't know if this is different. I don't because, because the history books that I read would suggest that it is that right, but I don't. You can't always trust the narrative that we've been taught. Right? When I think there's an African proverb but as long as history is told by the lion, it will always favor the lion. Jenny  52:55I love you. Really good to be with you. Love you. Bye. Bye. See You Bio: Jenny - Co-Host Podcast (er):I am Jenny! (She/Her) MACP, LMHCI am a Licensed Mental Health Counselor, Somatic Experiencing® Practitioner, Certified Yoga Teacher, and an Approved Supervisor in the state of Washington.I have spent over a decade researching the ways in which the body can heal from trauma through movement and connection. I have come to see that our bodies know what they need. By approaching our body with curiosity we can begin to listen to the innate wisdom our body has to teach us. And that is where the magic happens!I was raised within fundamentalist Christianity. I have been, and am still on my own journey of healing from religious trauma and religious sexual shame (as well as consistently engaging my entanglement with white saviorism). I am a white, straight, able-bodied, cis woman. I recognize the power and privilege this affords me socially, and I am committed to understanding my bias' and privilege in the work that I do. I am LGBTQIA+ affirming and actively engage critical race theory and consultation to see a better way forward that honors all bodies of various sizes, races, ability, religion, gender, and sexuality.I am immensely grateful for the teachers, healers, therapists, and friends (and of course my husband and dog!) for the healing I have been offered. I strive to pay it forward with my clients and students. Few things make me happier than seeing people live freely in their bodies from the inside out!Rebecca A. Wheeler Walston, J.D., Master of Arts in CounselingEmail: asolidfoundationcoaching@gmail.comPhone:  +1.5104686137Website: Rebuildingmyfoundation.comI have been doing story work for nearly a decade. I earned a Master of Arts in Counseling from Reformed Theological Seminary and trained in story work at The Allender Center at The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology. I have served as a story facilitator and trainer at both The Allender Center and the Art of Living Counseling Center. I currently see clients for one-on-one story coaching and work as a speaker and facilitator with Hope & Anchor, an initiative of The Impact Movement, Inc., bringing the power of story work to college students.By all accounts, I should not be the person that I am today. I should not have survived the difficulties and the struggles that I have faced. At best, I should be beaten down by life‘s struggles, perhaps bitter. I should have given in and given up long ago. But I was invited to do the good work of (re)building a solid foundation. More than once in my life, I have witnessed God send someone my way at just the right moment to help me understand my own story, and to find the strength to step away from the seemingly inevitable ending of living life in defeat. More than once I have been invited and challenged to find the resilience that lies within me to overcome the difficult moment. To trust in the goodness and the power of a kind gesture. 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Wheeler Walston, J.D., Master of Arts in CounselingEmail: asolidfoundationcoaching@gmail.comPhone:  +1.5104686137Website: Rebuildingmyfoundation.comI have been doing story work for nearly a decade. I earned a Master of Arts in Counseling from Reformed Theological Seminary and trained in story work at The Allender Center at The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology. I have served as a story facilitator and trainer at both The Allender Center and the Art of Living Counseling Center. I currently see clients for one-on-one story coaching and work as a speaker and facilitator with Hope & Anchor, an initiative of The Impact Movement, Inc., bringing the power of story work to college students.By all accounts, I should not be the person that I am today. I should not have survived the difficulties and the struggles that I have faced. At best, I should be beaten down by life‘s struggles, perhaps bitter. I should have given in and given up long ago. But I was invited to do the good work of (re)building a solid foundation. More than once in my life, I have witnessed God send someone my way at just the right moment to help me understand my own story, and to find the strength to step away from the seemingly inevitable ending of living life in defeat. More than once I have been invited and challenged to find the resilience that lies within me to overcome the difficult moment. To trust in the goodness and the power of a kind gesture. What follows is a snapshot of a pivotal invitation to trust the kindness of another in my own story. May it invite you to receive to the pivotal invitation of kindness in your own story. Listen with me… Well, first I guess I would have to believe that there was or is an actual political dialogue taking place that I could potentially be a part of. And honestly, I'm not sure that I believe that. Well, first I guess I would have to believe that there was or is an actual political dialogue taking place that I could potentially be a part of. And honestly, I'm not sure that I believe that.

Journalist Eric Lichtblau says President Trump's incendiary rhetoric has stoked a "new age of hate." His book, ‘American Reich,' centers on a murder committed by a young neo-Nazi in Orange County, Calif. He spoke with Dave Davies. Also, film critic Justin Chang reviews ‘Marty Supreme.' Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

The Context of White Supremacy welcomes Chad Montrie. A historian at the University of Massachusetts at Lowell, Montrie is classified as a White Man and his research interests include: “'Blackface' Minstrelsy, Racial Exclusion, and Labor Environmentalism.” Gus is slowly learning a great deal about the history and import of Racially Restricted Regions (so-called “sundown towns”). Locations where White people deliberately prohibit black people from residing or even visiting illustrate what it means to be racially classified as White and the intentional White labor necessary to maintain a global system of domination. We'll discuss Montrie's 2022 publication, Whiteness in Plain View: A History of Racial Exclusion in Minnesota. This text examines how generations of Whites in this region functioned to make sure very few black people made it that for north. This text contains a great deal about minstrel shows and caging black people in insane asylums. We even connect this history to the current Racist attacks against Somali immigrants and remember that a number of those White Terrorists who stormed the Capitol on January 6, 2021traveled from Minnesota. Many Welsing moments throughout this broadcast. Please, share this podcast and Dr. Montrie's book with Timberwolves' guard Anthony Edwards. #NoSomalis #TheCOWS16Years INVEST in The COWS – http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: https://cash.app/$TheCOWS CALL IN NUMBER: 720.716.7300 CODE 564943#

Fighting for you from the Foxhole of Freedom— Number One— Did you know that owning your own home—you know, The American Dream is nothing but White Supremacy—that according to the person just put in charge of housing by Mamdani in New York City—let that sink in  Number Two— The Corporation for Public Broadcasting has dissolved after being defunded by Congress—and yet PBS and NPR are still on the air—seems they didn't need my money afterall Number Three— President Trump and his administration are making it clear—they are still very serious about complete control of Greenland—because it is vital to American security to defend against incursions from China and Russia—who are both trying to find ways to dominate the Arctic—  

The mask is off. New York City's new "Tenant Protection" Czar, Cea Weaver, has explicitly called for the seizure of private property and claimed that homeownership is a "weapon of white supremacy." Austin Petersen breaks down the clips, the strategy, and the war on the middle class. Plus, the media claims the "Squatter Crisis" is fake news... tell that to the guy with the Samurai sword. Then, a massive debate on the Venezuela Raid: Judge Andrew Napolitano argues the capture of Maduro was a "lawless kidnapping" that shreds the Constitution. Francisco Moran (Argentine attorney & founder of La Carlos Menem) fires back, arguing that removing a narco-tyrant is a victory for civilization and the West. IN THIS EPISODE:

It's episode 224 and time for us to talk about History books! We discuss queer history, local history, spies, roads, colonialism, and more!  You can download the podcast directly, find it on Libsyn, or get it through Apple Podcasts or your favourite podcast delivery system. In this episode Anna Ferri | Meghan Whyte | Matthew Murray

In the 7 AM hour, Larry O’Connor and Julie Gunlock discussed: WMAL GUEST: JOE DIGENOVA (Legal Analyst and Former U.S. Attorney to the District of Columbia) on Latest Legal News and Maduro’s Court Appearance WMAL GUEST: ROBERT SPENCER (Author of “Intifada on the Hudson: The Selling of Zohran Mamdani” and “Holy Hell: Islam's Abuse of Women and the Infidels Who Enable It”) on Iran’s Protests, Venezuela Impact, Mamdani’s Radical Administration MAMDANI’S RADICAL ADMIN: Zohran Mamdani’s New NYC Tenant Advocate Called to ‘Seize Private Property,’ Blasted Home Ownership as ‘White Supremacy’ Where to find more about WMAL's morning show: Follow Podcasts on Apple Podcasts, Audible and Spotify Follow WMAL's "O'Connor and Company" on X: @WMALDC, @LarryOConnor, @JGunlock, @PatricePinkfile, and @HeatherHunterDC Facebook: WMALDC and Larry O'Connor Instagram: WMALDC Website: WMAL.com/OConnor-Company Episode: Monday, January 5, 2026 / 7 AM HourSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Context of White Supremacy hosts the weekly Compensatory Call-In 01/03/26. We encourage non-white listeners to dial in with their codified concepts, new terms, observations, research findings, workplace problems or triumphs, and/or suggestions on how best to Replace White Supremacy With Justice ASAP. This weekly broadcast examines current events from across the globe to learn what's happening in all areas of people activity. We cultivate Counter-Racist Media Literacy by scrutinizing journalists' word choices and using logic to deconstruct what is reported as "news." We'll use these sessions to hone our use of terms as tools to reveal truth, neutralize Racists/White people. #ANTIBLACKNESS On the opening weekend of 2026, President Donald Trump abducted Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores, and charged him with "narco-terrorism" and conspiracy drug trafficking. Trump told the wold that "we are going to run" Venezuela and we're going to take over their lucrative oil operations. Whites around the world have branded this a flagrant violation of international law. These historic events helped Gus recognize that Mr. Maduro is not accepted as White. In the continential US, Somali Day Centers are facing allegations of fraud instigated by a 23-year-old White YouTube creator known as Nick Shirley. These non-white people (Africans) now report being subject to threats and Racist torment. Pres Trump froze child welfare subsidies to Minnesota and eventually all 50 states in response to Shirley's YouTube posts. In some areas of the world, the decline in reading is being branded a "national security threat" that leaves the non-literate more vulnerable to deception. In San Francisco, White people continue to mourn the passing of Claude The Albino Alligator. #NarcoTerrorism #Domination #TheCOWS16Years INVEST in The COWS – http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: https://cash.app/$TheCOWS CALL IN NUMBER: 720.716.7300 CODE 564943#

In this episode, we talk with the Millennials Are Killing Capitalism podcast about their series on organized white supremacist groups, a series that has centered in particular around the KKK. We also talk about the academic use of the term "white supremacy" in recent years, which has been taken up in many left-wing movement spaces. We discuss the utility of this analytical framework alongside the lack of serious engagement with the politics and ideology of white supremacist, far right, and white nationalist organizations. https://www.patreon.com/c/blackmyths

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The Context of White Supremacy hosts the weekly Compensatory Call-In 12/27/25. We encourage non-white listeners to dial in with their codified concepts, new terms, observations, research findings, workplace problems or triumphs, and/or suggestions on how best to Replace White Supremacy With Justice ASAP. This weekly broadcast examines current events from across the globe to learn what's happening in all areas of people activity. We cultivate Counter-Racist Media Literacy by scrutinizing journalists' word choices and using logic to deconstruct what is reported as "news." We'll use these sessions to hone our use of terms as tools to reveal truth, neutralize Racists/White people. #ANTIBLACKNESS Headed into the final weekend of 2025, President Donald J. Trump launched an attack on the area of the world known as Nigeria. Pres. Trump chose December 25th as the appropriate day to announce coordinated violence against the "ISIS Terrorist Scum" who've alleged hounded Christians (White people?) for years. Nigeria is one area of the world Gus has encouraged non-white people to study because of their enormous population of black people - which is exponentially increasing. We'll also review a recently released reports that suggests teenagers who consume even a small amount of cannabis experience decreased academic performance. This contradicts what many C.O.W.S.'s listeners insisted when they disputed Dr. Frances Cress Welsing, medical doctor, for discouraging cannabis consumption. #EndStageWhiteSupremacy #NoTHCForTeens # INVEST in The COWS – http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: https://cash.app/$TheCOWS CALL IN NUMBER: 720.716.7300 CODE 564943#

Go beyond the headlines with Scott Payne, a former undercover operative whose real-life missions placed him deep inside some of America's most dangerous white supremacist groups and notorious biker gangs. STS' Emmy Award–winning journalist Joel Waldman interviews Payne about the realities of living undercover—earning trust, managing constant risk, and the personal toll of years spent in the shadows. This compelling discussion explores life undercover, the psychology of extremist movements, the ethical lines investigators must navigate, and what it takes to return to normal life after years of deception. Thoughtful, tense, and deeply human, this interview offers rare insight into counter-extremism, investigative journalism, and the true cost of going undercover—from survival and sacrifice to resilience and redemption. Learn more about Scott Payne: Https://www.instagram.com/scottpayneb... Scott Payne's Book here: Https://a.co/d/h72xndGSupport the show & be a part of #STSNation:Donate to STS' Trial Travel: Https://www.paypal.com/ncp/payment/GJ...VENMO: @STSPodcast or Https://www.venmo.com/stspodcastCheck out STS Merch: Https://www.bonfire.com/store/sts-store/Joel's Book: Https://amzn.to/48GwbLxSupport the show on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/SurvivingTheSurvivorEmail: SurvivingTheSurvivor@gmail.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Context of White Supremacy welcomes Cody McDevitt. A White Man and award winning journalist, McDevitt is a Pennsylvania resident and the founder of the Rosedale Oral History Project. Last week, Gus T. spoke with Dr. Emily Leib last week, and she told us that her White grandparents are Beaver County residents. Gus checked immediately, and, of course, Beaver County is a Racially Restricted Region of western Pennsylvania - which Dr. Leib seemed to already know. Upon further investigation, Gus found out that Racists purged a group of black people from this region in 1933. A tad south, Racists in Johnstown also kicked out their population of dark people a decade earlier. McDevitt penned Banished from Johnstown: Racist Backlash in Pennsylvania. This book reveals much about the System of White Supremacy and what it means to be classified as White. Interestingly, so called Mexicans were also told to “beat it” along with the niggras. However, there was intervention on their behalf that was not extended to black people. Pay particular attention to Mr. McDevitt's response to Gus's definition of Racism and his constant references to other non-white people's books and views on Racism. This includes Isabel Wilkerson's abomination Caste (#2ndWorstBookEver). #BlackGetBack #RaciallyRestrictedRegions INVEST in The COWS – http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: https://cash.app/$TheCOWS CALL IN NUMBER: 720.716.7300 CODE 564943#

For our fourth of five "best of" episodes for December, we revisit episode #197.On today's show, our panel discusses the differences between "non-racism" and "anti-racism," and why the latter is far superior to the former. Join Matthew and Keith, alongside Lisa Sharon Harper, Desimber Rose, and Daniel Henderson, to discuss this important topic.If you want to call in to the Bonus Show, leave a voicemail at (530) 332-8020. We'll get to your calls on next Friday's Bonus Show. Or, you can email Matthew at matthew@quoir.com.Join The Quollective today! Use code "slayfascism50" to save 50% off a yearly subscription. Valid now through the end of 2025.Pick up Keith and Matt's book, Reading Romans Right, today, as well as The UnChristian Truth About White Christian Nationalism.Please consider signing up to financially support the Network: QuoirCast on PatreonIf you want to be a guest on the show, email keith@quoir.com.LINKSQuoirCast on PatreonQuoirCast on Patheos Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.