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Kamri Peterson is the newest member of the Dancing with the Stars troupe for Season 35, joining returning troupe dancers Jaxon Willard, Carter Williams, and Onye Stevenson. Before joining the main series, Kamri competed as a pro on Dancing with the Stars: Juniors, and has since continued building her career as a competitive ballroom dancer.   WATCH THE VIDEO PODCAST HERE: https://youtu.be/dovg7Uo2AyE     ▼ CHECK OUT MY OTHER SOCIALS ▼ Instagram: http://instagram.com/thejoe Instagram Podcast: http://instagram.com/thejoevulpispodcast Facebook: http://facebook.com/ughitsjoe TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@ughitsjoe Snapchat : https://snapchat.com/@thejosephv Twitter: https://x.com/ughitsjoe   Welcome to THE JOE VULPIS PODCAST official YouTube channel! Hosted by Joe Vulpis, also known as "Ugh It's Joe" and "The Joe". My guests range from rockstars and actors, to hit reality show stars and the largest influencers on the planet. Joe achieved internet notoriety with his unique witty Vlog style videos and passion for food. Amassing a total of more than 3,000,000 followers across social platforms, 500,000,000 Youtube views across his channels, and averages more than 100 million monthly views across all socials!   Ghost Tags: Kamri Peterson, Kamri Peterson interview, Kamri Peterson podcast, Kamri Peterson DWTS, Dancing with the Stars, DWTS, DWTS troupe, Dancing with the Stars troupe, newest DWTS troupe member, DWTS Season 35, Kamri Peterson dancer, professional dancer, ballroom dancer, Dancing with the Stars Juniors, DWTS Juniors, Jaxon Willard, Carter Williams, Onye Stevenson, DWTS behind the scenes, Dancing with the Stars interview, Joe Vulpis Podcast

Hour 1 Starting Lineup TCU pxp Brian Estridge What You May Have Missed Hour 2 Jusuf Nurkic was very complimentary of Darryn Peterson Utah Mammoth iniser Cole Bagley Misc Hour 3 Scott Garrard, Tim LaComb & Frank Dolce Utah beats Iowa State Devon Dampier still struggles with 20+ yard passing Hour 4

Jusuf Nurkic was very complimentary of Darryn Peterson Utah Mammoth iniser Cole Bagley Misc

00:00 Intro00:28 Darryn Peterson training camp news and hypeSubscribe to the Hoops Nerd channel for Utah Jazz News, Utah Jazz Post Game Shows, Utah Jazz Rumors, Utah Jazz Film Break Downs, and more! My T-Shirt shop: https://www.teepublic.com/user/hansenjames#utahjazz #basketball #nba

We head to Puerto Rico this week with Dan! For centuries, soldiers stationed at one isolated watch post in old San Juan were said to vanish without a trace, leaving behind only rumors of something evil lurking in the dark. And when a modern worker begins hearing an old military call echoing through the fortress after sunset, the legend of the Devil's Sentry Box suddenly feels far less ancient. Then, we head to Pennsylvania, where in 2002, a husband and father disappeared near his home, only to be found dead after a massive search with no obvious explanation for what had happened. Then came reports that, at nearly the exact time he vanished, something strange was seen hovering over the ridge where he had last gone. Lynze's first tale feels like its right out of a horror movie from Rob Zombie. Two PO's go on a house visit and get a whole lot more of an adventure than they bargained for. Then, we go to Colombia for a medical work zoom. How would you react to seeing someone who should not be there, while taking a work call? We are donating $13,150 to Big Table. Within in that donation is $2477 which came directly from tips at camp being rerouted to Big Table! We are putting $1,180 into the scholarship fund for 2027! If you'd like to learn more about what Big Table does to support those in the service industry, you can visit bigtable.orgAMAZING new merch in the store this month, head on over to badmagicproductions.com to grab your killer clown t's, dancing moth designs or maybe the same apron that Maggie wore at Peterson's! Do you want to get all of our episodes a WEEK early, ad free? Want to help us support amazing charities? Join us on Patreon!Want to be a Patron? Get episodes AD-FREE, listen and watch before they are released to anyone else, bonus episodes, a 20% merch discount, additional content, and more! Learn more by visiting: https://www.patreon.com/scaredtodeathpodcast.Send stories to mystory@scaredtodeathpodcast.comSend everything else to info@scaredtodeathpodcast.comPlease rate, review, and subscribe anywhere you listen.Thank you for listening!Follow the show on social media: @scaredtodeathpodcast on Facebook and IG and TTWebsite: https://www.badmagicproductions.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/scaredtodeathpodcastInstagram: https://bit.ly/2miPLf5Mailing Address:Scared to DeathPO Box 3891Coeur d'Alene, ID 83816Opening Sumerian protection spell (adapted):"Whether thou art a ghost that hath come from the earth, or a phantom of night that hath no home… or one that lieth dead in the desert… or a ghost unburied… or a demon or a ghoul… Whatever thou be until thou art removed… thou shalt find here no water to drink… Thou shalt not stretch forth thy hand to our own… Into our house enter thou not. Through our fence, breakthrough thou not… we are protected though we may be frightened. Our life you may not steal, though we may feel SCARED TO DEATH." Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Scared to Death ad-free and a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In Part 1, True Geordie Podcast sits down with Jordan Peterson for a wide-ranging and thought-provoking conversation. The discussion explores Peterson's views, experiences, and perspectives as True Geordie pushes deeper into the ideas that have made him such a prominent and debated public figure. With direct questions, detailed discussion, and plenty of room for disagreement, this episode sets the stage for a revealing multi-part conversation. Tune in to True Geordie Podcast for Part 1 and hear the discussion unfold from the beginning. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

UtahJazz.com's JP Chunga caught up with Tyler Rucker (No Ceilings) to discuss the Jazz's young players — Keyonte George, Darryn Peterson, Ace Bailey, Isaiah Collier, Kyle Filipowski, and Brice Sensabaugh.

Author Benny B. Peterson discusses their latest novel, The Maidenheads, a fractured, coming-of-age love story centered on two queer indie musicians in Washington, D.C. When Jamie, a journalist trapped in a dead-end newspaper job, discovers she's pregnant, her life begins to shift beneath her feet. Then Mari, her ex-girlfriend, former bandmate, and unabashed agent of chaos, reappears, turning Jamie's world turns upside down and forcing her to confront what she truly wants and what she's willing to do to get it. In this episode, Benny shares their writing journey, discusses how Jamie's story came to mirror aspects of their own transition, and describes the unique challenge of translating a musician's relationship with music into words on the page.

Hour 2 of Jake & Ben on September 30, 2026 Top 3 Stories of the Day: Jusuf Nurkic Blown Away by Darryn Peterson's maturity, TCU had a players only meeting ahead of BYU matchup, Dan Lanning is done talking about Dante Moore's Injury.  Phil Mickelson has checked into treatment WNBA Playoffs are heating up

Top 3 Stories of the Day: Jusuf Nurkic Blown Away by Darryn Peterson's maturity, TCU had a players only meeting ahead of BYU matchup, Dan Lanning is done talking about Dante Moore's Injury. 

Scott Peterson has been convicted of murder.  We will discuss the real evidence that convicted him?  This episode brings all of the episode together. We take the important pieces and discuss them under the investigative microscope.  You can place yourself in the jury box with this episode.  You can decide for yourself based on the evidence.  Contact Charlie: charliecrimebuster@gmail.com  Support: www.peacemakernetwork.com  Youtube: www.youtube.com/@charliecrimebuster  Music and Sound Effects: www.pixabay.com Domestic Abuse Hotline: 1-800-799-7233

Retired FBI agent and criminal profiler Candice DeLong explores the disturbing case of Scott Peterson, the California man convicted of murdering his pregnant wife Laci on Christmas Eve 2002. On the surface, Scott Peterson had everything -- a beautiful wife, a home, and a baby boy on the way -- and none of the red flags that typically appear in a killer's past. Candice explores what was hiding beneath Peterson's flawless exterior, and how unchecked psychopathy, narcissim and indfidelity culminated in one of America's most notorious crimes.Audible subscribers can listen to all episodes of Killer Psyche ad-free right now. Join Audible today by downloading the Audible app.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jessica Coody sat down with Lindsay Peterson to break down the Nebraska's B1G opening weekend, including one of the most complete performances of the season against Ohio State, Lindsay talks Andi Jackson's B1G and AVCA Player of the Week honors, the Huskers' blocking and serving, she talks the Nebraska Athletics Hall of Fame coming up this weekend featuring John Cook and her former teammate Amber Holmquist, Lindsay previews the trip to Penn State and more!

Have you thought about running Facebook or Instagram ads for your acupuncture or chiropractic practice? If you've ever opened Meta Ads Manager and immediately felt overwhelmed, this episode is for you.Today I'm talking with Jen Peterson, founder of Slay Social, about how wellness providers can use organic social media and paid ads together to reach more of the right people, without spending all day creating content.Jen has a really practical approach to marketing, and we get into:How much you should be prepared to spend on Meta ads if you want to give them a real chance to become profitableWhy Meta ads and Google ads reach potential patients at very different points in their decision-making processHow Jen uses awareness ads and retargeting together instead of expecting one ad to do all the workWhat your Instagram profile should look like before you spend a dollar on ads, including the three posts Jen recommends pinningWhat to look for when hiring someone to manage your ads, especially if you've been burned in the pastJen shares so much great behind the scenes info on making your ads effective. Let's dive in!Show Notes:Jen's website: slaysocialwithjen.comFree Strategy Call with JenFree Social Media Audit from JenInstagram: @slaysocialwithjenFacebook: @slaysocialwithjen

Ready to book Daryl for an unforgettable educator experience? Click here: https://darylwilliamsjr.com/Every district is fighting the same battle: keeping great new teachers from walking out the door. Most administrators assume it comes down to salary — but after years in the classroom and hundreds of conversations with educators on the edge of quitting, two-time Teacher of the Year Daryl Williams Jr. reveals the real reason new teachers stay or leave, and it has almost nothing to do with money. In this video, Daryl breaks down the single underestimated leadership move that changes how new teachers feel about their job, their principal, and their future in education — and why skipping it is quietly costing districts their best talent.If you're a principal, PD director, assistant superintendent, or district leader trying to solve your teacher retention crisis before it costs you another resignation letter, this is the leadership shift you need to see.Grab The Impact Playbook for New Teachers (free): https://impact-courses.com/idividual-playbook-youtubeDaryl Williams Jr. is a two-time Teacher of the Year and international keynote speaker who helps school districts stop the cycle of teacher burnout and turnover by addressing the real, identity-level reasons educators leave the profession — not just surface-level fixes like pay bumps or generic motivational talks. His signature framework helps administrators create school cultures where new teachers feel seen, supported, and equipped to stay for the long haul.If your district is preparing for convocation, a back-to-school kickoff, or a professional development day and you want a speaker who delivers more than applause — one who leaves your staff with real, lasting change — reach out today to check availability.Book Daryl for your next event: https://darylwilliamsjr.com/Download The Impact Playbook for New Teachers: https://impact-courses.com/idividual-playbook-youtube#TeacherRetention #NewTeacherSupport #EducationLeadership #TeacherBurnout #KeynoteSpeaker #ProfessionalDevelopment #SchoolCulture #PrincipalLife #EducationalConsulting #DarylWilliamsJr________________________________________

It was Utah Jazz Media Day and there were a lot of quotes about Darryn Peterson from everyone on the team. It certainly sounds like Peterson is having an awesome camp.Subscribe to the Hoops Nerd channel for Utah Jazz News, Utah Jazz Post Game Shows, Utah Jazz Rumors, Utah Jazz Film Break Downs, and more! My T-Shirt shop: https://www.teepublic.com/user/hansenjames#utahjazz #basketball #nba

Ben Anderson and Chandler Holt talk over their biggest takeaways from the Utah Jazz media day and answer your mailbag questions on this week's episode of the Jazz Notes podcast! These podcasts are available on YouTube with video, typically after the audio version is posted. Sign up for the new Jazz Notes newsletter! Receive game updates, exclusive analysis and chances to win Jazz tickets. Check out Ben and Chandler's X profiles - @BensHoops +@CHoltSports You can be a part of the Jazz Notes podcast by submitting questions for our mailbag through Ben's X on Mondays!

Jake & Ben Full Show from September 28, 2026 Hour 1 It's Utah Jazz Media Day, what are the true expectations after such a big offseason? Also, hear from Ace Bailey.  Top 3 Stories of the Day: Wayshawn Parker Has A Day at Iowa State, BYU off Bye Week, More on Jazz Media Day.  Rookie Darryn Peterson addresses the media at the podium Hour 2 Drake Toll makes his weekly appearance to talk college football. How is the Big 12 looking after 4 Weeks?  Kyle Whittingham already threw Jay Hill under the bus after Michigan's loss to Iowa.  Other News Around the NBA Hour 3 It's Utah Jazz Media Day and we are letting you hear the best content. Head Coach Will Hardy joined The KSL Sports Zone earlier today.  New Lakers Center Walker Kessler talked about the pressure on him now after the trade.  Audio Vault: Student Call from Iowa Win Over Michigan + A Penalty Call Like You've Never Heard Before Hour 4 Utah Jazz Media Day: Keyonte George Joined DJ & PK earlier today.  Thoughts on Dante Moore's Late Slide & Injury + Other Takeaways from CFB Weekend Yes It's Utah Jazz Media Day

**Community Connection: Testifying in the 21st Century** Today on Community Connection, Tina Cosby dives into the importance of preserving the tradition of testifying in the church. With the help of Dr. Nicholas Peterson, Assistant Professor of Homiletics and Worship, Assistant Director of The Ph. D. In African American Preaching and Sacred Rhetoric Program @ The Christian Theological Seminary and Katrina Owens, the National Program Director for Testify Live, Tina explores the significance of this practice in the 21st century. From the arts to digital storytelling, the conversation highlights the ways in which testifying can be a powerful tool for spiritual formation and community building. Tina and her guests discuss the history of testifying, its evolution over time, and the importance of preserving this tradition in modern times. They also talk about the upcoming event, Testify Live, which will feature local indie artists showcasing their talents through various mediums such as sculpture, photography, and dance. The event aims to revitalize testimony practices and provide a platform for people to share their stories of how God has moved in their lives. The conversation also touches on the importance of community engagement and the role of social media in sharing God's story. Tina and her guests encourage listeners to attend the free event, Testify Live, on Friday, October 2nd, at Eastern Star Church on Cooper Road. With a lineup of talented artists and a range of activities, this event promises to be a unique and inspiring experience. Don't miss this thought-provoking conversation and learn more about the importance of testifying in the 21st century. Tune in to the full episode to hear more about Testify Live and how you can be a part of this movement.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What if your AI strategy is creating more risk than progress? John Willis joins Andrew Stotz to trace how Deming's System of Profound Knowledge shaped the way he thinks about organizations, learning, and change. From his early days building DevOps to the AI transformations he's navigating with CIOs today. Along the way, John connects Deming to fast feedback loops, explains why leaders keep mistaking a learning problem for a technology problem, and shares stories that never made it into his book, Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge.   A fresh conversation for longtime Deming thinkers and those just beginning the journey.   TRANSCRIPT 0:00:02.0 Andrew Stotz: My name is Andrew Stotz and I'll be your host as we continue our journey into the teachings of Dr. W. Edwards Deming. Today I'm here with featured guest, John Willis. John, how are you doing?   0:00:15.7 John Willis: Great, Andrew. I was just thinking, I feel like that song, like I got my picture on the cover of Rolling Stone. Like, I'm on the Deming Institute podcast. Yay.   [laughter]   0:00:24.9 Andrew Stotz: We finally got you on.   0:00:27.8 John Willis: Yeah, yeah.   0:00:30.3 Andrew Stotz: Actually been a while and I wanna introduce you just briefly and then I'll let you do a little bit more of the introduction. But basically on Amazon, a book popped up and I was just looking at the date of that. That book popped up on, for me, it popped up on September 6, 2023 on Audible and I immediately bought it and I got the Audible book and the book's called 'Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge. How Deming Helped Win a War, Altered the Face of Industry, and Holds the Key to Our Future'. And I immediately got it. Didn't know you, listened to it, loved it. Later you reached out on LinkedIn and we started communicating and you were kind enough to send a copy of it, which I then went through in more detail. I love the book. I really highly recommend the Audible version because it's just fun. Because the book is opening up a whole new Deming lens, a whole new way from somebody that never met Deming, and I just found that fascinating. So maybe why don't you take a moment and introduce yourself to the audience so that people know who you are, where you've been, what you've been doing and what you're doing now?   0:01:41.4 John Willis: Yeah, no, no, great. I... So, yeah, I... I've been doing technology, usually high consequence business, regulated industry, banks, retail, the biggest of the bigs, where the technology is incredibly important. Right? And I've been doing five decades of basic technology transformations, and I'm kind of the person who gets bored real easy. So I've literally gone through, like, you name it, mainframe, centralized computing, client server, distributed computing, priority systems, the Linux Open systems, you know, owned infrastructure cloud, and I'm consider one of the founders of the DevOps movement. And now today, like the cliché that I am, I've been doing a lot of organizational strategy on AI. So I don't come in and tell you how to turn 4,000 developers into AI coders. I kind of tell your CIOs to slow down. Wait a minute. So, yeah, so my day job today is I'm... I think these days finally in my life I would call myself an author first. I've written a number of books. The one you did, I had... My last book was a history of 100 history, 100 Year History of AI. And... But I'm an advisor, so I sort of... I take inbounds. I don't really look for work. Usually it's a chief of staff for a CIO who either has worked with me in the past and hey John, we're underwater with AI. Can you come in? Or they hear something I've said or I do a lot of podcasts and then I'm sort of a quasi investor. Although I probably should listen to your stuff a little better because I'm typically... I'm one of those guys that like, if I invest in it, you go short on it right away. So... [laughter] But yeah. But, yeah, no, so... But my day job today is really, is doing research. I'm actually just sure, this probably opened up a whole another discussion. Maybe later but I'm writing a book about the history of quantum computing right now and that's been just fascinating. So...   0:03:41.7 Andrew Stotz: Yeah.   0:03:41.8 John Willis: But my day job is helping CIOs and large high consequence organizations try to shuffle through technology transformations.   0:03:50.7 Andrew Stotz: And for the audience there that didn't catch what you were saying at the beginning, it kind of dated you because you were talking about the song called Rolling Stone by Dr. Hook.   0:03:59.9 John Willis: Yeah, yeah, totally.   0:04:01.3 Andrew Stotz: Dr. Hook published this in about 1972. And here are the lyrics. "Wanna see my picture on the cover? Wanna buy five copies for my mother? Wanna see my smiling face on the cover of Rolling Stone?" So here...   0:04:12.8 John Willis: Totally. Yeah. There you go. Deming Institute. Yeah, no, great.   0:04:16.7 Andrew Stotz: And one of the things that I found fascinating was just how you came to Deming from a very different angle. I was lucky enough that my boss at Pepsi sent me to study with him and I did two different seminars. The last one was in 1992. So I was 24, he was 92, was gonna live about one more year. I had... I could literally reach out and touch the man and hold his hand and sit next to him. I got a great picture of me sitting next to him. And I was just a young guy with a fresh mind compared to the 500 guys behind me that were older that he was bashing at times. But tell us a little bit about how you stumbled upon this topic and why you decided to do what you did with writing the book?   0:05:03.7 John Willis: Yeah, no, it's sort of interesting. I sort of say that for the first, I don't know, probably from 1980, my first job was running five distributed large computer systems for Exxon Research and Production, basically the geophysics work, right, during the most hottest period of the oil industry. And there were people doing that part of variation and understanding, but that didn't sort of hit my world. I was supporting geophysical processing and then so I rolled into other jobs. And then probably the closest I came... So in other words, I'm dealing with a lot of these major transformations and always focusing on the meta side, like the organizational. What are the things that are wrong? How do we fix the human and technology? There's a phrase called sociotechnical systems, right? And that's always where I've been most interested. And then even I was at GE Capital and I'll say this with all honesty, I was a Green Belt, but they gave out Green Belts for Six Sigma, [laughter] right? My wife was actually a Black Belt. And... But we would do... And I know Deming hated Six Sigma and all that, but we were doing... It was all around me, right? And then it wasn't until really the DevOps age that we really... That was a major shift in my career because before everything was sort of first generational from a technology or sociotechnical system, very command control, you sort of you installed software in a certain way. There were so many principles that were being broken by DevOps. And I was already an older guy at that point, but I was learning from these young kids and I'm known as the person who introduced DevOps to the US.   0:06:52.3 John Willis: And... But so there is where we started going back and understanding... We thought everything was new. We were creating DevOps, we were doing all this crazy awesome stuff. And I remember a friend of mine, well, a good friend of mine wrote a book called 'The Phoenix Project' by Gene Kim and it's a rewrite of Eliyahu Goldratt's 'The Goal'. And I was like, oh my God. And I read all of Goldratt's books and I was like, okay, this is the way, this is the way. I've seen a glimpse of some 30 or 40 year knowledge that I was missing. And then it was an open space seminar. A good friend of mine says, "John, you know." and I'm going off about Goldratt and he's like, "You know this all goes back to Deming." I'm like, "Who's Deming?" I'm like, "I just spent a year learning everything I could about Goldratt. He is my North Star. And now you're telling me..." And he challenged me. He said, "John, I'll leave it at this. You go read Deming's 14 Points and if you don't... I know you. I know what you're gonna do once you do that." And he was spot on. That was it. I was... And I don't... I'm more into the Profound Knowledge and we could talk a little bit about my journey there. But I was like, oh my goodness, this is the real and I love Eliyahu Goldratt and I love 'The Goal' and I love all his books. But Deming was hitting... Was like punching me right square in the face.   0:08:12.0 Andrew Stotz: So to what gap did it close for you? I mean, Goldratt is very specific about the main limiting point...   0:08:23.2 John Willis: Yeah.   0:08:23.3 Andrew Stotz: The bottleneck, how do we solve this?   0:08:25.6 John Willis: So the 14 Points, sort of one of the jokes is that it's mandatory to put the 14 Points in a DevOps presentation. So we were doing that dance a little bit, but then when I got a little serious about it, actually me and Gene Kim, we did a book. Goldratt has this book called 'Beyond the Goal'. It's an audio-only book, right? And I convinced Gene about five years after he had written 'The Phoenix Project' to do a Beyond the Phoenix Project. And so he did Goldratt, I did Deming. And at that point, I knew enough about Deming to say, "Okay let's..." And then we talked about DevOps and the principles of Lean and we did... I always, when somebody says they bought that audiobook, I'm like, "Oh, you're the 15th person that bought it." right? But it sold more than that. But the... But that's when Gene tapped me on the shoulder and did that. We went to the studio. It was a highlight of my life, literally going to the studio with Gene and literally recording for a couple of weeks. And he's like, "John, you really need to write a book about Dr. Deming." And then I started building a folder. And then the crash course then or the trajectory at that point not really crash course is that you realize the 14 Points are, no disrespect, but vaguely interesting. You're like, "Okay, Mount Everest is System of Profound Knowledge." Right? Because that's the mount... And that's the one where you're like, "Okay, I read 'Out of the Crisis', I think I get it, the 14 Points make sense, but like, what is this stuff he's talking about here?" Right? And then you read 'New Economics' and it's like, "I still..." And then, so for me then, it was, I'm just one of these person like I have... And again, I'm not trying to make myself look like I'm special, but I have to learn. I can't... I'm the worst person in a... If I was in your class, you'd kick me out of your class because I'd be sitting in the front row and you'd be, "Oh no, not you again."   0:09:26.2 Andrew Stotz: Another question.   0:10:26.9 John Willis: Yeah I know just another question. I mean, I've been cut off by professors and... But the... I'm like, "All right, I got to get to the bottom of this." And that was almost a 10-year journey for me of... I had to know. Because it was clear to me that Profound Knowledge or System of Profound Knowledge was not something he invented out of thin air. Like, I had to figure out, where did he get this? And that started the genesis of how I was gonna write the book, which is the journey, 'Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge'. And that sort of took me into... And what that did, while I was learning that, of course, Deming opened the door to guys like Russell Ackoff and Ashby and just all these other sort of management thinkers and even Drucker or whatever, right? They all sort of started filling out a palette. But meanwhile, I'm still driving hard on Deming. And what that gentleman said to me, good friend of mine, Ben Rockwood, who I give tribute in the book, is when he said to me, almost like tapped me on the head, like, "John, John, John, it all goes back to Deming." Like, you start seeing the clarity of DevOps, Lean, Agile, it all had these things. And so I spent literally a long time really trying to figure out, okay, how did Deming get... We all know variation is relatively simple to understand where he got that from, right? Shewhart's work and all that stuff. And I'm not trivializing the impact of what he did for it, but knowledge was interesting. And knowledge I had to go to pragmatism. You had to understand what C.I. Lewis is. And that's a book that Deming said he had to read seven times.   0:12:03.1 Andrew Stotz: He had to read it seven times...there's no hope for me.   [overlapping conversation]   0:12:05.2 John Willis: That's right. No, actually I did Tom Sawyer. I have a friend who's one of the smartest people I know. He's like, "I'll read that." And he explained it to me. But and then I read it. But so knowledge, this sort of, how do we understand? How do we know what we think we really know, right? That whole epistemology and all that. To me, this is like sort of, just give me more, right? And see more and feed me. And then system thinking was interesting, appreciation for system, because then that got me back to, okay, and there was some missing links there. And I found that one of the guys who came up with General Systems Theory, von Bertalanffy, him and yeah, Ackoff. Him and Ackoff had sat in a seminar of his like in the '40s and so there was some influence there. And there's a lot of work that's been going on in systems thinking after him. But so then I got that and then the psychology is tough, right? But so I put all that together. And then my... The thing I was telling you earlier is, when I do the research for a project like this, I read everything that there is about it. So my AI book, I read 25 books on AI, history of AI. I'm up to like 10 books on the history of quantum computing.   0:13:23.4 John Willis: With Deming, I've read every book that's been written by Deming, at least the ones that I know of, right? And one of the things I noticed, the pattern was that they all... Again, I'm just simplifying it. They all started off with a little bit about the biography, some a little longer than others, but in general, most of the book was about the management theory. And it was really a book that was being sold as a business book more than it was as a biography. And one of the things I've always loved about Michael Lewis or that sort of story of nonfiction storytelling is he tells a biography, it's a disguised biography and I thought, my God this... And as I kept compiling over the years all these great stories, you know, the Doris Quinn story, right? The woman who, she went to New Guinea and Deming... Spent the last two years of her life with Deming. I mean, most of the people that are Deming disciples didn't even know about this woman. And she spent the last two years of life traveling with him. So I met her and interviewed her. And the stories, you know Hawthorne, and there was such... It wasn't just that, I love the idea of trying to explain how he got to management theory and epistemology, how did he get to the science of variation? That's all good stuff. But I wanted the stories, and the stories were just glorious. As you enjoyed the book, right?   0:14:52.4 Andrew Stotz: Yeah.   0:14:53.3 John Willis: I think that was the fun part of not just explaining the sort of tech, if you will, but it was the, like the, oh my God, this... I've got to... I had three chapters like six years before I wrote the book.   0:15:06.9 Andrew Stotz: Yeah. Well, here's chapter 15. And you say, "Being a student of Deming, I came across an untold firsthand account of a beautiful story from one of his acolytes, a woman named Doris Quinn," who you're talking about.   0:15:20.0 John Willis: Yeah. Yeah.   0:15:20.2 Andrew Stotz: And... But the... I also had marked a section related to talking about the final days, saying...   0:15:29.7 John Willis: Yeah.   0:15:29.8 Andrew Stotz: "Doris said he was a very, very driven man. He went nonstop. I remember one time we were in Kansas City and a reporter asked him, "Dr. Deming, when are you going to retire?" And the master said, "Why would I do that?" "Well, so you can do what you want." the reporter said."   0:15:45.7 John Willis: Yeah, yeah, yeah.   0:15:46.4 Andrew Stotz: "Dr. Deming looked at him and said, "I am doing what I want."   0:15:50.2 John Willis: Yeah. You know what I love about her? There's a really good book from Amazon called 'Working Backwards'. And they tell us... The guys who wrote it were pretty high up early on in Amazon. They tell the story how if they traveled with Bezos and you didn't have a whole set of questions on the plane ride, you got in trouble. And so Doris Quinn tells that story, how she literally, she tells the story of how she traveled with him and he's like, "Doris, what other questions do you have for me?" And if she didn't have one, he'd get mad at her. He wouldn't talk to her. They'd have to wait a day because normally they'd go and have gin together. But if she didn't have questions... And some of it's in the book, some of it was in conversations had... He'd literally get mad at her and not talk to her for the rest of the day [laughter] because she didn't have any questions. You got to love that, right?   0:16:39.2 Andrew Stotz: And you also did a little follow-on about more stories that you didn't get in the book, I believe.   0:16:48.1 John Willis: Yeah. Yeah.   0:16:48.2 Andrew Stotz: Tell us about that.   0:16:50.1 John Willis: Well, so I wrote the DevOps Handbook, right? And that was a collaboration with four other authors and took us six years to write it. So my wife says, "What parts did you write?" I'm like, I don't know, man. There were a lot of parts that went in and out and moved around when you have four authors, and it was really a very techie book. So 'Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge' was really the first book where I literally... It was my book. And so I had written the book. In fact, my favorite story, and Doris Quinn is a great story, my favorite one was... It was basically called The Devil Wears Prada. And so, and Kevin... I don't think Kevin, his mother even knew this when we were talking that his grandmother literally was... I mean, I think they knew that she worked for the pre-BLS, she was a statistical mathematician and all that.   0:17:45.3 Andrew Stotz: Right.   0:17:45.4 John Willis: But after the war, she worked before she... I don't know if she met Deming, but she certainly wasn't married to him, Dr. Deming. She worked on the mail-order business was getting all these returns for women's sizing. And so whatever the pre-BLS was, Bureau of Labor Statistics, commissioned her to do a study. And she's the one who invented women's sizings. Because before, they didn't really have all the different measurements. So she ran a whole statistical study. And so today... So I use the whole story of the Anne Hathaway, the 14 is the new seven and all. So I start that off. Anyway, so I go to my publisher and my editor, who I love, she'd already knocked out a lot of stories, but this is the one where, "You're not taking this story from me. You're not... This one is not." And then she's so good, she'll be like, "John, let me ask you this. Does it fit the arc?" By this point, she understands System of Profound Knowledge, she's read my book quite a bit, and she says, "Does it fit the arc of System of Profound Knowledge?" "Uh, I hate you." And I took it out. And then she said, "Well, why don't you make a blog post out of it?" And I'm like, "Oh, no. I'm gonna make another book." And I took all the stories we cut out and I called them Profound Stories. And yeah, so...   0:19:06.6 Andrew Stotz: And for the listeners and viewers, you can get it on Kindle and then you can read the stories. And I think for the Deming community, that's one of the best parts about this whole thing, is just there's no great collection of stories that has an arc to it, as you said. So I enjoy that. I wanna also... It'd be interesting to understand how your thinking has progressed about Deming, because obviously you talk about this introduction phase where you got to know him, then you have this intense phase that you seem to have a knack for, then you write the book, you have all the excitement about that, but you're on to other things.   0:19:46.8 John Willis: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   0:19:46.9 Andrew Stotz: And there are remnants of Deming that remain with you, but there's others that have fallen by the wayside. Maybe they're not as critical as you may have thought or... I'm just curious, how does the Deming thinking unfold in your life now?   0:19:59.7 John Willis: I... It's become sort of a fabric. So, and I wanna get back to that, but I do wanna say one thing... I'm so... Whenever somebody tells me the story that they met Deming, I have two reactions. One is the hair on my skin, my arms go up thinking, "Oh, I wish that was me." But then the other one is like, I'm sure he would have yelled at me and got mad at me. Because he would basically be like, "That's a stupid question, Mr. Willis." So I have this fantasy of which way it would go. But anyway. Yeah, the question around what do I think now? I think, so if you go back to the narrative, he... And it's hard not to be a sycophant of Deming, right? But I am a sycophant of Deming, but I try not to be. And... But even in the book, I tried not to be a sycophant, right? I went out of my way. But so when I say this, Deming was in my DNA before I even knew who he was, right? Like at Exxon, at GE Capital, the Six Sigma stuff. And again, I understand for people listening, oh, the Six Sigma went the wrong direction, but it originally was stemmed from a lot of his ideas. And so it was there. So it was sort of foundational, and he was the lighthouse to put it in... And then System of Profound Knowledge became the taxonomy for me for this stuff that was in my DNA. And so in one way, there is this thing where you move on to a new transformation. And we're in one right now. We've been in one. I've been in one for five years now, which is with the AI. And again, same thing for me is it's not about the AI, it's organizational behavior, organizational patterns, what is the sociotechnical science behind how do you do these things?   0:21:48.4 John Willis: But so you forget... I always say technology shifts are like fluorescence. People use the metaphor of like spring and winter, like AI winter, AI spring, and they've used it for other things than AI. And that's sort of like a rebirth. The fluorescence is good because it's like an energy. It's always rolling forward. It just gets a fluorescence bright glow periodically. And so what the problem with the metaphor works for me because the energy is there, and the energy are the patterns that are consistent. The fluorescence is the blinding effect. So back to like, did anything fall off the wayside with Deming? Yes, for a little bit. Because in 20... Basically I started playing with the early versions of GPT, the OpenAI models, back at version two, and that was like around 2020, right? Even before ChatGPT, right? So that whole experience before we started even thinking about what this was gonna look like at a large-scale bank was fluorescence. Like I'm not thinking anything about Deming from 2020 to 2023. In 2023, 2024, I start getting asked to come into some of my larger clients. And I'm following it too, and I'm sort of... I'm starting to become aware that this is becoming... In fact, I'm pretty sure in the grand scheme of things that don't matter in the grand scheme, I'm pretty sure I got first use on shadow AI, in an article I wrote in like 2022 or 2021, right?   0:23:27.2 John Willis: So I had already been recognizing there's a problem pattern here. We got the shadow IT with the cloud stuff, now the shadow AI, and I could see this steamrolling happening so... And then I started getting called in organizations, and then I still was the wayside of the Deming. Like, I didn't walk in going, "Hey, I'm gonna hit the punching bag with Deming." I was coming in trying to figure out what do I know about patterns with this fluorescence metaphor that are new and shiny, and what are the things that are old that have been relevant for the five decades and the six transform... At least six transformations I've been through that are common in everyone. And I started seeing that. And then what was funny, as I'd be writing and researching with AI, it knew so much about me that even as early as like 2024, I had loaded in my Deming book. In fact, one of the ways I learned AI is I took the 'Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge' and I turned it into an augmented general retrieval, or what they call RAG database. So I learned a lot about AI because I knew what my book was, and I could validate what was hallucinations.   0:24:36.3 John Willis: Anyway, but it knew enough about me. And then what it would periodically do, it would say, "Would you like Deming's version of this?" I'm like, "Yeah, I would love that." And then I... It started refreshing my memory of what the real context going back to my friend Ben Rockwood, it all goes back to Deming. And so now it's actually on the... It's more than ever, it's on the forefront because I'm being brought into major brand organizations that are seemingly failing on AI at the institutional, organizational level. And there's not a line of these people. In fact, most of them don't wanna talk to me because they don't wanna hear what I got to say, which is slow down. And I'm okay with the ones that don't wanna hear that because I don't really wanna work with them anyway. But now I'm seeing with absolute clarity two things. One is it all goes back to Deming, and all the problems that we're seeing can be classified in Profound Knowledge.   0:25:37.1 Andrew Stotz: Tell us more about that. Because for those people that... There's so many different components. When I got introduced to Deming, it was the 14 Points, 'Out of the Crisis'. And then I left America in 1992, so I wasn't there for 'New Economics'. And it... And I did other stuff for 20 years, 15 years, and then I found New Economics. It's like, "Wow, this is different from that."   0:25:53.1 John Willis: Yeah.   0:26:09.1 Andrew Stotz: Yeah, so between the deadly diseases, the 14 Points, the System of Profound Knowledge, there's so many parts to this.   0:26:15.9 John Willis: No, I've got... Yeah, I definitely got. And I'll tie it right back to the... In 'Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge', I tell the story of Knight Capital. And Knight Capital is an interesting... It was the second highest high-frequency trading, black box, latency arbitrage on the NYSE. A sysadmin made a configuration error. They lost $450 million and don't quote me on the exact numbers, but like 450 million in 45 minutes. They were arbitraged at billions of dollars. They were literally out of business with a cease and desist from the SEC. And I always tell people, like, that's the last thing you want if you have a business is a cease and desist from the SEC, right? And at that point, we would say things like the consequences are high on how you think about humans and technology. Well, guess what, sports fans? Knight Capital is a drop in the bucket of what we're gonna start seeing with AI. We are going to see these... And there's the Equifax breach, there's all the... We're gonna see non-survival. I mean, Knight Capital didn't survive. Equifax lost five billion market cap in a week and then recovered all of it, right? But I'm saying there's been some major brand recognition problems pre-AI. You're not going to be able to survive these with the power...   [overlapping conversation]   0:27:41.7 Andrew Stotz: Abilities are gonna be shaken out.   0:27:43.6 John Willis: Yeah. I mean, and the brand damage. Brand damage by the escape routes of how... I mean, let me just step and I wanna go back to answer your question. But one of the things that people don't recognize right now is the machine that we have now has infinite knowledge at machine speed, and it's probabilistic. I mean, just add those three things up, that it has the ability of infinite knowledge, something no human could even close to. So it'll make decisions, it will escape, it will figure ways out, it will try a clever way to do something that probably no human would do that could be a disaster. Right? So the consequences are incredibly high. So then now, okay, let's really dust off: it all goes back to Deming's stuff. And so to your question, I think that I would love to see, like, you write a fantasy novel about how Deming came back to the future and was sitting here listening to what was going on, and he'd be screaming. He'd be telling everybody... And this is the thing I'm... I don't scream, I'm too old these days, but like, I literally cut off a CIO real quick in my conversation. I interview a CIO, they think they're interviewing me, I'm interviewing them. And if I'm like, "Yeah, no, you know what? This isn't right." "Well, what do you mean, John? We had..." "No, no, no."   0:29:09.1 John Willis: Because I can see right away that what the CIO or the leadership is... They think AI is a technology transformation. It's an organizational learning transformation. Deming would see this and scream this out loud. And that's the part of the blinding fluorescence that we're missing. We should know this by now, right? And so all these technology shifts, they think they're technology revolutions. They're really... I mean, they go back to the basics. What are the systems are they changing? Are we understanding what variation is? How do people learn? Are people not learning? Are people... A good example is, in every organization that I travel and this has been true for almost every technology transformation, but now it's glaring. I like to simplify. I say there's three groups. Let's take AI, right? Three groups in an organization. And usually, again, I don't care about really start-ups. I do care about startups from an investment standpoint, but I don't care about them from my day job. And so this is a bank or a large retail or insurance company or manufacturing. And so the CIO is like, "We have an AI strategy." And by the way, let me step one more thing, we learned a lot in the DevOps revolution, but DevOps was never a board-level conversation and it was never a Wall Street conversation.   0:30:37.1 John Willis: AI was immediately a board-level conversation. And so the pressure on a C-level, a CEO and a CIO, is "You must do AI yesterday.", right? And so now what's happening is the CIOs are literally doing knee-jerk reactions of like, "We're gonna have... We got 30,000 employees. If we can get all 30,000 employees using AI with a 3x productivity rating, we'll have..." you know, like, oh my God. And then they say, "Make it so." And I call this the strategy versus talent systems gap. And I don't mean how talented they are, I mean understanding what your talent system looks like. And to keep it simple, most talent systems look like this, they have one group that is passive-aggressive. They don't like change. They've been doing the same job forever. In this new world, they don't believe AI works, and they're passive-aggressive about it because they know they can't say they don't want it. When the CIO says, "We must do AI." they have to go, "Oh, we'll get to it next month. Next month. We'll get to it next month." And then you have the second group in the middle. They wanna do the right thing, but they're high enough... As we know, if you work for a bank and you're in a high enough position, if something really goes wrong, you're lucky if you get fired. You could get a fine for two times your salary, or you could actually go to jail.   0:32:02.3 Andrew Stotz: Right.   0:32:02.4 John Willis: Right? So that group is like, "I wanna use this, but you're not clear. There's no clarity from your... You guys all wanna do all this...   [overlapping conversation]   0:32:11.7 Andrew Stotz: There's risks everywhere.   0:32:13.3 John Willis: But we've got the OCC and there's no clarity on FDIC and like, what does this mean?" "Well, I don't know." "Well, then I'm not touching this stuff. And do you have my back?" No. Right? And then the third group is the classic, do now, ask forgiveness later group. And so you could put this all back to driving out fear. Because what happens is you've got a strategy. What is that, it's number eight, I think. I think that's right, but it doesn't matter, right? It could be nine, it could be seven in the 14 Points. So the CIO has said, "This must happen." And then, again, board-level, horizontal, vertical pressures. And then everybody's... And they're not even understanding, do they have the capability? Do people wanna do it? Does the middle group even understand the clarity? And so the first thing that you should be doing is, in the clearest sense is driving out fear. So the do now, ask forgiveness laters are fear that if they don't do it, they won't be the leaders. The middle group is pretty clear what their fear is, you don't give them clarity of what they can and can't do. And the third group is fear of changing, losing their job, "AI is gonna replace me." So that's all a spectrum of understanding fear at the human level. And so maybe that is one of the first things you should address before you actually set a grand strategy. And we know Deming has a lot of thoughts about this, and then we break into sort of like...   0:33:48.6 Andrew Stotz: Okay, so let's stop at that.   0:33:50.1 John Willis: Yeah. Yeah.   0:33:51.6 Andrew Stotz: Fear.   0:33:53.0 John Willis: Yeah.   0:33:54.5 Andrew Stotz: That is something that remains in your belief system that is supported by Deming. Did you have that awareness when you were in... Let's just think about before you came across Deming.   0:34:08.1 John Willis: Oh, oh, yeah.   0:34:08.9 Andrew Stotz: Let's say you were doing all that stuff with Goldratt and all that but then when you came to Deming, did fear come up as, oh, wow, this is obvious, or did you learn that later and you see it now more?   0:34:21.3 John Willis: Andrew, this is why you're good at your job. This is good. This is a great question. No, really good... I love questions where I have to really deep think about it. So I think that I kind of always... It wasn't until DevOps that I understood what failing was about. So just before, like the nanosecond before I'm learning what Deming's saying about PDSA and failing and how the whole structure of learning is, I had this sense, but I don't think I was baptized yet on... And to me, I'll put fear and failure in the same bucket, right? Because it's a very... They are, in a lot of senses, the same thing. But certainly I can put them in the same bucket. So I had a sense, but it wasn't until we started seeing fast fail in DevOps. So DevOps, one of the things with DevOps was shorten the feedback loop. That was one of the core tenets of DevOps. Like, instead of waiting three, four weeks, five weeks, six weeks to deliver some software, or six months, and then by the time you deliver it, you're onto... The whole group that built it is now doing something else, let's just be able to turn a line of code into a delivery now. And that was revolutionary, right? And it's changed the universe. I mean, you don't have the big AI providers today if you didn't have DevOps.   0:35:46.4 John Willis: You would not have Airbnb and Uber and all that if you didn't have DevOps. Right? So that... And that sort of realized that this fast feedback loop is really an interesting thing, right? And the fact that it is telling you fail fast because then you learn fast and then you correct fast. And you... And so right around that time, I'm doing this research on Deming and starting to understand epistemology, the theory of knowledge. And so, again, I don't think... Like I said earlier, I don't think I had the... And vocabulary's too loose of a word. I don't think I had the structural understanding. Like, I didn't know what the word epistemology meant [laughter] before I started learning Deming. So I... So it was really... There were flavors of understanding what learning was, but it was DevOps that literally sort of put it to the front of why this works, how it does. And then I got... Again, a lot of careers is just being lucky, right? I just happened to sort of tap into this Deming thing through meeting Gene, learning about Goldratt, and then having this good friend tap me on the head and say it all goes back to Deming. And so, so and then that point, then it sort of opened up the whole world of epistemology. And it wasn't until I wrote the book where I started realizing it was pragmatism.   0:37:07.2 Andrew Stotz: And did that... Does that fail fast, does that method of accelerating the feedback loop that happened through DevOps as you've explained, does that remove a lot of fear from where people would be...   0:37:19.6 John Willis: Oh yeah.   0:37:19.7 Andrew Stotz: Much more... So that all of a sudden says, "No, no, no, it's okay to fail. We'll see that in a day, in two days, and then we're gonna iterate from that." So, okay, I understand how that kind of reframes fear of failure. But then you now talked also about the idea that it's a big element that you see, everything goes back to Deming. Nowadays you see this fear. How does it connect with how you see fear today in the workplace or in organizations?   0:37:50.6 John Willis: Well, again, I think it's the same thing. I mean, I hear people talk about now that one of the big discussions right now and I always look for the anti-pattern of where the discussions go, right? There's this big discussion about AI slop, right? In fact, last year it was we were all concerned about hallucinations. And I'm not dismissing that, but like, if you know how to run AI and infrastructure harnesses and build ground truth in an organization and you understand how your internal audit works, hallucinations are not, let me repeat this, are not a problem in 2026. They are not a problem. You could make them a problem by not understanding what I just said, but they are not a problem. So today's hallucination frenzy scare is what's called AI slop. And I guarantee you in 2027, it'll be something else. But... And I'm not saying it doesn't exist. It does exist, right? But so people are sort of calibrating, what is the cost... There's this counter-reaction to AI coding, not even assistance, people are now using pure agent coding, right? And the question that I think Deming would ask and maybe if there is some divine proxy of me speaking through Deming or Deming speaking through me is that the question that people are now looking at is, "Slop is so bad, we're creating so much code, should we ease back to the longer cycle for ideation and delivery and that process?" Because it's costing us a lot of money on the implementation side.   0:39:20.8 John Willis: The error, the time it takes to remediate the slop is starting to outweigh. Well, that's just bad organizational behavior and design. But okay, but so now I've had this argument with a major corporation, the CIO the other day, where I was saying you have to create this hourglass effect. For you got to create the funnel and then you got to have the control system that slows things down and speeds it up. And he was saying, "But yeah, the cost of the slop is all this stuff." And I said... What I said is, "Yeah, but what you're missing is..." and this is a company that did really well in DevOps, I worked with them years ago through the DevOps transformation and they understood the fast feedback and I had to re-explain the idea that, yeah, there's a cost to AI slop, but if you're not calibrating that with the cost of non-fast feedback and learning because your fear is this slop is gonna get us back or make you knee-jerk reactions, we're gonna see if we can slow down the ideation, maybe we move too fast. And again, I don't... There are scenarios where that is absolutely true, but that is, first understanding your problem. And your problem isn't slow down the ideation process.  Oh, we should spend more time ideating because what does that do? It goes back to the old school where we're spending way too much time in the ideation. By the time it actually gets implemented, the feedback loop of learning is way too long. So I think you're better off at least measuring... And this is where variation comes into play. Measuring if I decrease the ideation time, do I get more value from the fast feedback because I can understand the problem, I can fix it faster? And again, that was one of the core tenets of DevOps. But I find people now pushing back because they're scared of AI slop and it's costing more remediation time. So again, I think these are multiple ways of thinking about how fear...   [overlapping conversation]   0:41:26.9 Andrew Stotz: Yeah, so besides...   0:41:27.1 John Willis: The fear... And I was just gonna say one... Sorry to cut you off.   0:41:29.0 Andrew Stotz: Yeah, go ahead.   0:41:31.0 John Willis: But one of the biggest problems I've seen over the years is I think the knee-jerk reaction is the symptom of fear. Right? And so I've seen this over and over where a bank gets pawned and so they put out a req for a hundred IT sec professionals in a city where you can best case hire 10 one year. Right? So again, I think that there's that combinatorial fear, knee-jerk reaction.   0:42:00.5 Andrew Stotz: If you were to pick one other area of Deming that really stands the test of time for you, as opposed to a Deming disciple, let's say someone that's trying to implement everything that he's talking about and they're trying to do it in their little manufacturing company or their service business, which I interview those guys.   0:42:09.1 John Willis: Yeah, yeah.   0:42:17.6 Andrew Stotz: But in your case, in some ways it's like you swam through a Deming period of time, absorbed everything and now you're on to other stuff. I'm just kind of interested about what else is lasting?   0:42:35.2 John Willis: Yeah, no...   0:42:35.3 Andrew Stotz: Just one thing.   0:42:35.6 John Willis: And I think maybe, Andrew, maybe part of a problem of the institutionalized Deming conversations is it doesn't always have to have the word Deming in it. In other words, I'm not criticizing you. I'm just saying that I see it more as it's in my DNA. It's part of how I look at things. And so I'll give you a great example. This is pure Deming, but I wouldn't think of it as, "Oh, let me explain this way I want you to evolve in AI because Deming would say..." I don't start that way. But I will tell you that when I came up with this idea and it's called an ideation, AI ideation hackathon. Right? Because everybody's running tech hackathons, AI hackathons. And that's a terrible, terrible, terrible idea. And there's technical debt, you're just making a lot of mistakes there.   0:43:01.7 Andrew Stotz: Right.   0:43:27.8 John Willis: It's a knee-jerk reaction. So the ideation hackathon is sort of something unique. I was doing some consulting for the CMO of a large database company, but got into AI and I helped them, it's called MongoDB, I don't do any work for them anymore but I helped them launch their AI solution. And I did a lot of technical hackathons and I just kept seeing how all the chaos of these technical hackathons, people would build stuff, it would just wind up in GitHub repositories, it would go nowhere. And I finally said, "Why don't we just strip out the technology and focus on the ideation process?" Right? And so that becomes a pure implementation of PDSA. Right? Because in a PDSA, if I was gonna sort of explain it in a Deming way, a hackathon would be a terrible way to implement a PDSA. "So let's build the Sistine Chapel and then let's figure out, let's study the results." Or why don't we start small as an organization? This is why I tell my first... Right now, CIO asks me, "Okay, John..." and usually the conversation ends at this, "What would be your 30-day, 90-day plan, 180-day plan?"   0:44:41.0 John Willis: I'm like, "Not to have one." Yeah, but then I sort of, I talk about two ways to deal with where they're at. And I say that one is something I've done over years, was a qualitative. I do these large where I interview 300, 400 people and I use true qualitative analysis approach to interviewing people, build categories, and structurally design what the place looks like. Right? And that's very... But it's very expensive and it takes... Expensive not in the money, but the time. The new sort of one that CIOs, at least a small percentage of bite onto is, "Why don't we run some ideation hackathons?" And here's the value, you're not writing any code. You're letting people focus on learning how to ideate. Because remember I said earlier, AI is not a technology transformation, it's an organizational learning change. So let's focus on the organizational learning structures without giving any of the technology or the code. But do the hackathon, and the readouts are what you would have built minus the specific tools. And it's glorious because you actually you get to see all the stuff without expending tokens. You don't build the risks. Because anybody who tells you they can sandbox experiments in AI is lying, absolute lying. If anybody's followed the recent Open AI Hugging Face one, it was the most insane escape.   0:46:10.9 John Willis: So, and then the other idea is I don't want 30 of my executive administrators all picking their own tools and all trying to solve all their C-level bosses' problems. And by the way, there's the whole security exposure is, I've done ideation hackathons where an EA says, "I got this idea. I wanna take my P&L or my profit or whatever of some proprietary information on a spreadsheet and throw it into Claude and have Claude..." I'm like, "Yeah, no, no, no, no. Let me explain how that goes into Claude." It literally, it traverses through a bunch of internal structures that leave stuff laying around. And by the way, even though they say they don't train on your data, they have your data. Like, you don't want that data in there. So the ideation hackathon, I think, is a really good... And so I think the main point to that is, although I don't walk in the door and I think one of the... Again, your listeners, I'm like attacking your listeners basically but I think one of our problems is, we try to build our, some people try to build their skill set around like, "I'm a Deming expert. I'm gonna teach you how to do Deming and everything's gonna be great because of Deming." as opposed to let's just make the water Deming, the water, the fabric of what we do. And every once in a while it does make sense to be able to say, "Hey, you know that..." And I won't go back and say I won't lead and say, "Well, Deming tells us..." because I'm not gonna get the gig if I just go too much on Deming anyway. But I will say at some point, I'll say, "Here's the deal. We've got over 100 years of management knowledge on how to do the right things. Let's pay attention to those things." Right? And that's the Deming, that's the Shewhart, that's the Ackoff, it's the Ashby, it's the... We can go down the list, right? Senge.   0:48:06.2 Andrew Stotz: One of the things I was thinking about a while ago was, when Dr. Deming wrote 'Out of the Crisis', he was telling us that we were in a crisis and that we needed to think a new level of thinking. Did it work? Are we out of the crisis? Did people take on board what he taught? Where are we now? That was 1986.   0:48:30.7 John Willis: Yeah, I know, I know.   0:48:31.7 Andrew Stotz: On the one side you can say America's brought incredible amount of innovation and businesses are huge and other countries and other regions struggle to catch up with America. So on the one hand, you could say materially it appears like we're there. But on the other hand, when you look at the way things are managed, you could argue, yeah, not much has changed.   0:48:56.7 John Willis: It's a tough one. It's a tough, I mean, let's just face it, large-scale organizations of high consequences are so full of bureaucracy. Humans interacting at that scale is probably the hardest organizational problem there is, right? You can study anthropology for the next 40 or 50 years and still not have a good clue of how to. And people do, right? So, yeah, it's hard. And why things work, why they go through the... I mean, I talk about the Peterson at Ford, right? And then Ford, turns out there were a lot of other... There are these other conflicting things that happen, industry changes, financial models change. Why did Ford have this incredible success when Peterson called Deming? And then some number of years later, they're back to the old ways, right? We got General Motors, we got all that. I will say this, and I hadn't really thought about this until you asked the question. One of the things I did focus pretty heavy on is Deming's influence on Toyota. And now there's a lot of debate and this is where people get pretty mean with me. I mean, Dr. Spear, I love Dr. Spear. He wrote 'High Velocity Edge' and he's a genius. He was MIT Sloan. And every time I'd see him, "Well, you know, John, Deming and that Six Sigma stuff never worked." And I'm like, "Alright, first off, he didn't do Six Sigma. Second off..."   0:50:21.6 John Willis: And then he told me one time, he said that Deming had no influence on Toyota. I'm like, "Yeah, that's just not blatantly untrue. I'm sorry, you're a PhD genius, I'm not. You're wrong." And so I've been hitting him... Over the years, I hit him with a lot of evidence of Deming's influence on Toyota. And it even goes back to Denco Densco and some of the same. But here's the thing, right? I... There's a woman called Katie Anderson. She's got a book, Learning to... 'Leading to Learn, Learning to Lead', where she met a guy who spent four decades at Toyota, this Dr. Yoshino, and she interviewed and wrote a book about his career. She runs a Japan study trip. I did a Japan study trip a couple of years ago and I got to meet him. And I... He hired at Toyota in 1966. He worked alongside Ohno, Shingo. He was there. He was a junior guy, but he was the guy they were yelling at, "Do this, do that, do this." right? So he was there.   0:51:23.9 John Willis: I told him, I said, "There are people that believe in the US that Deming had no influence on Toyota." He could not believe that that question even could come up. And he told me, he said, "John...", he doesn't really speak good English, we had a translator, he said, "Let me tell you what Deming taught us. He taught us to understand data." And at first I didn't grok that, but then I started thinking about variation. And although there's a lot of people that say that that didn't carry through too, but if I look at what Agile, Lean, and ultimately become DevOps, I in that book trace it pretty strongly back to Deming's influence on Toyota. And you can't deny Lean is not the core of Agile Lean, today's Lean, right? Toyota Production Systems, to be clear. So then I would say that the lasting impact of Deming is not what happened in the '80s when the Americans started understanding what he did, because maybe that translation, maybe it had to be... I asked Doris Quinn this and she said, "Oh, that's interesting." Because I said this, I said, "Could it be that Japan influenced Deming as much as he influenced Japan?" And I think it did. And I think the point was they were...   0:52:45.6 Andrew Stotz: It was a love affair.   0:52:46.3 John Willis: And yeah, and they were more malleable to his messaging.   0:52:50.3 Andrew Stotz: Well, they were more malleable because of their condition, but they also were more susceptible because of the structure of the society.   0:53:01.6 John Willis: Exactly. Yeah, but even the sort of community structure. I'll tell you another quick story on that study trip where we visited an elementary school. And in the elementary school, they had no janitors. Every sort of public school is like this, right? They have no janitors. And the kids, they literally clean. At about 2 o'clock, a bell goes off and some kids rotate and they do the bathrooms, some people... Imagine in an American school, some ritzy parents, "My son cleaned the bathroom?" It'd be on CNN. And they rotated serving food.   0:53:20.7 Andrew Stotz: Child slave labor.   0:53:39.7 John Willis: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we got to interview a couple of them and they understood Kaizen and all. So me, I start thinking about like, oh my God, this is our... Western culture is so broken because we basically teach everything that's antithetical to that. They get out of college and then maybe they get lucky and get into an Agile, Lean-like structure and we have to break it all down, where their kids come out completely in that sort of community. And we went to a lot of tier-one distributors. You could see the understanding of community and the power of it. And so what I'm saying is, what Deming was giving them saturated to have such an impact on TPS, and it's unquestionable the impact TPS has had on Lean and Agile and DevOps. And if you follow my thread, Lean, Agile, and DevOps have certainly impacted... You don't have places like Google for good or bad, Facebook for good or bad, Uber, because they could never scale...   0:54:40.0 Andrew Stotz: Yeah.   0:54:40.1 John Willis: Without that. So again, I think, I really hadn't thought about this until you asked the question, is I think actually the Deming 1980s renaissance of Deming was a... Seemed like a bubble in retrospect, unfortunately. But actually indirectly, he's had more... And there's a good part of the book that tries to cover that. I do the "What would Deming do?" after he died, if he was alive and all the stuff that happened there.   0:55:06.3 Andrew Stotz: Yeah, I mean, definitely DevOps. And then Eric... What was his... The Lean Startup one?   0:55:14.0 John Willis: Eric Ries. Yeah, Eric Ries. Yeah.   0:55:17.3 Andrew Stotz: That also... Those two really probably did more to promote PDSA and that aspect.   0:55:23.4 John Willis: Yeah, that's right. Oh yeah, scientific method. There is a copy, and I cannot find it anywhere, there is a copy of Eric, one of Eric Ries' Lean Startup books that does attribute to Deming, and I cannot find it.   0:55:36.5 Andrew Stotz: It does or does not?   0:55:38.7 John Willis: Does. Does. He's got this thing about the 75th birthday or something. Do you have it? Because I can't find the copy, at some point I read a copy where he does a tribute to Deming.   0:55:50.0 Andrew Stotz: Yeah, I think there's some...   0:55:53.0 John Willis: And then...   0:55:53.1 Andrew Stotz: I have the book and I think there is some reference in the book.   0:55:57.5 John Willis: Yeah, there was one, was like... It was like... I don't know if it was the 70th year, 75th year, and he... So yeah, no, I mean that directly. Lean Startup is literally... Yeah, so yeah.   0:56:10.9 Andrew Stotz: And if we think about people that are listening to this podcast, the people that I really want to listen to this podcast and I really want to get something out of the podcast is people that just don't know Deming. They've never heard of it, but they've stumbled upon it. One of the Deming community said, "Hey, you should listen to this podcast because you'll learn about Deming." And maybe they listen to a couple of episodes and it's a bit overwhelming when they hear someone talking about a lot of detail about this or that. Maybe they bought 'Out of the Crisis' and they got a chapter or two into it and they thought, yeah, that's also a bit overwhelming. What would be your message to that person who's listening right now to say, here's the reason why you shouldn't abandon it because of XYZ or whatever that message is that you've got about what they need to know about Deming?   0:57:01.4 John Willis: Yeah. I mean, I will say this, learning is hard. Change is hard, right? I mean, it sounds cliché, but, yeah, I think all of us who came into Deming, I didn't... When I read, we talked about this, I read 'Out of the Crisis', I was like, I don't know what's going on here. One of the worst things I can advise you to, I hate to say this, and this is probably anti-Deming Institute, is start off by reading his two books. You're better off going out to podcasts like this or other stories. I found that healthcare was chock-full of great stories, particularly about Profound Knowledge, of great examples. And then I went back and read the book and then like, oh my God, this is, now I get it, right? So I think a lot of things that we sort of encounter, a lot of them have... The things that are really valuable have this sort of facing counter-intuitiveness nature to them, and you have to sort of work at that.   0:57:55.9 Andrew Stotz: Yeah.   0:57:56.9 John Willis: And so Deming is hard. I mean, you... If you wanna understand Deming, I would say most people are not gonna get it on the snap. And what I would say to them is, it's worth figuring out what are the parts that he says and he did and his philosophy that could become part of your DNA, 'cause that I don't think anybody disagrees on. And then... And one other sort of short story. And I love Bill Bellows and I would say listen to all his podcasts. He's an amazing guy and just incredibly insightful on a lot of, I didn't really understand Taguchi, but so I did some podcasts with him. But I remember, and I'm not calling anybody out, but he runs the In2:InThinking Group and I've been to a couple of those. And I remember one time we were sitting there and we were having a conversation around sort of a roundtable and somebody asked, as I was talking about a company, they said, "Are they a Deming company?" I'm like, yeah. And I couldn't actually get through the room that, no. Nobody's a Deming company. Like, what is a Deming company? That's the wrong question. So again, back to, you got to be careful about how you think about Deming as using his philosophy to help organizations, because the more you focus on that it is a "Deming philosophy" as opposed to these are the right ways to think about the problems, you fall into this trap of maybe getting lost. Well, that Deming thing worked for about a year or two years and now it doesn't work. Well, if you don't call it a Deming thing, then what were the things that stuck and what are the things that didn't?   0:59:42.5 Andrew Stotz: Yeah. I just wanna remind the listeners and the viewers out there, just go to Amazon and find 'Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge'. For me, I listened to it as an Audible book, which was fun because I enjoyed the stories and it just reminded me to go back and listen again. And also the additional stories, which I actually hadn't bought until, I had been wanting to buy it, but I didn't. So while you were talking, I got that on Kindle. So that's gonna be my fun.   1:00:13.9 John Willis: Those are great stories. There's a story about Gene Cernan. He was the last guy to land, be on the moon. And as you go through the book, it's really interesting. I did like seven or eight... So I was in no rush to publish the Deming book. I was in a rush to do the AI book. So I would literally get to the third rev, the fourth rev, and every time I'd have more new friends point things out. And by the time I got to like eight revs and I'm like, okay, it's probably time to put this book out. But what happens is as you go with the editor, they just start carving things down. And a good editor makes the strong point, like my 'Devil Wears Prada'. But again, there were so many great stories, like the Gene Cernan one is the last guy to be on the moon, but there was a story about Tracy's Rock and it's just a fabulous story, but it didn't have any place in Deming's Journey of Profound Knowledge. It was just an add-on that sort of took you off course. But now, in a standalone book, it's a great story. So there's a ton of those. The guy who created Piggly Wiggly was this genius. Like, again, it didn't really fit in there. But as a standalone story and I even do a little bit of, like, this would have been in chapter 15, so if you read both, you get a sense. And the worst thing I can tell you, though, is I had one person, I was at a conference I was laying the book, the Profound Stories book was laying around, and I guess I came back, he was at a booth, and he read it, and he goes, "John, can I talk to you about your book?" I'm like, "What?" He goes, "I don't know." I'm like, "Oh, dude, you can't read that book without reading 'Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge'. It would be a terrible book if you didn't know what the premise was for where it came from." So, yeah.   1:01:59.7 Andrew Stotz: So in wrapping up, what would you like to leave the audience with from this discussion and from your journey into the teachings of Dr. Deming?   1:02:11.3 John Willis: Yeah, I think you have to start thinking about... And again, I know it sounds like I'm trying to sell the book and you're doing a better job than I am anyway but the last third of 'Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge' was what would Deming do had he survived another 20 years? Right? And probably nothing because he was pretty old and not healthy. But the... So, I mean, question then is, as we think about organizational behavior, what are the core things? And I think Profound Knowledge is a great way. I, again I... Again, I don't walk in and say, "Oh, we're gonna... CIO, we're gonna solve this problem by applying the four elements of Profound Knowledge." That's not how I start that conversation. But I'm certainly thinking about systems thinking because that's first and forefront. Like, how are you thinking about... Like one company recently I was with, they got... Some of the big AI providers are giving well-branded companies all-you-can-eat AI. Like OpenAI is saying, "Hey, you know..." That's a terrible idea, terrible, terrible. Because now you're just building technical debt up the gazoo, right? So again, to be able to see the forest behind the trees, what's the systems thinking effect of that? How are you learning? What's the epistemology, the theory of knowledge behind that?   1:03:39.2 John Willis: Are you applying... In the book, I tried to codify my understanding of, like, the theory of knowledge is, how do we know what we think we know? The variation is, how can we see what we think we know? The psychology is, what are the... Let's take a second and what are the blind spots? And then I think of it as a feedback loop is, are we continually like if you listen to Bill Bellows, he does a great job of sort of explaining systems thinking through the sort of vehicle of Taguchi or Ackoff but are we just continually looping through that process as, "Let's take a bigger chunk, let's take a bigger chunk, let's take a bigger chunk"? So Profound Knowledge, not so much that you have to walk in and be an expert on 'Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge', or more specifically, The System of Profound Knowledge. The idea is, can you use those... And the reason I fell in with 'The System of Profound Knowledge', why that was what hit my core, because I will say, out of my five decades of doing all this crazy stuff in technology, I can't think... I mean, there's a lot of cool frameworks that I use as auxiliary, and frameworks I'm using loosely but The System of Profound Knowledge is the one framework that to me beats all other frameworks because it covers epistemology, it covers understanding statistical analysis or analytical statistics. Right? Which is very important. It brings in the biases, the... All the sort of things about how people think, blind spots, and then it throws together the wrapper of appreciation of a system, so...   1:05:23.2 Andrew Stotz: Yeah. Well, John, on behalf of everyone at the Deming Institute, now you see your picture on the cover.   [laughter]   1:05:32.2 John Willis: There we go, man.   1:05:33.7 Andrew Stotz: I wanna thank you. It's a great discussion and it's long overdue.   1:05:37.7 John Willis: Sure.   1:05:37.9 Andrew Stotz: And for listeners, remember to go to deming.org and jump into DemingNext to continue your journey. This is your host, Andrew Stotz, and I'll leave you with one of my favorite quotes from Dr. Deming, which is, "People are entitled to joy in work."   1:05:42.4 John Willis: I love that you end with that.   

Hour 1 of Jake & Ben on September 28, 2026 It's Utah Jazz Media Day, what are the true expectations after such a big offseason? Also, hear from Ace Bailey.  Top 3 Stories of the Day: Wayshawn Parker Has A Day at Iowa State, BYU off Bye Week, More on Jazz Media Day.  Rookie Darryn Peterson addresses the media at the podium

Hear Utah Jazz Rookie Darryn Peterson at the podium

Hear from Utah Jazz Guard Darryn Peterson at 2026 Jazz Media Day.

What does the story of Absalom have to do with Jesus and the cross? In this sermon we explore the striking parallels between two sons of David who reveal two radically different ways of becoming king. Discover how humility, self-giving love, and obedience bring a kingdom unlike any kingdom of this world.

Immerse yourself in captivating science fiction short stories, delivered daily! Explore futuristic worlds, time travel, alien encounters, and mind-bending adventures. Perfect for sci-fi lovers looking for a quick and engaging listen each day.

'Farmer Greg' Peterson's guest is the founding farmer of The Little Lighthouse Farm Rachel Opio. A Certified Organic urban farm in Central Phoenix dedicated to growing nutrient-dense food, strengthening community food access, and helping people reconnect with the land. Rachel works to make fresh, locally grown food more accessible while encouraging people to see their own yards, neighborhoods, and communities as places where food can be grown. She discusses her compassion that comes from her mother. Broadcast archive page with expanded content https://rosieonthehouse.com/podcast/outdoor-living-hour-urban-farming-and-growlittleforbigimpact-with-the-urban-farm-and-little-lighthouse-farm/    

Send us Fan MailBob Peterson spoke with Liz Collin about how his wife Jan was shot six times while working at Loring Towers in MInneapolis — and her miraculous survival.Peterson said there were plenty of warning signs that were ignored for months before the shooting took place.Peterson also spoke about the hypocrisy of elected officials, like Mayor Jacob Frey, Hennepin County Attorney Mary Moriarty, and others who claim that Minneapolis is safe and that "crime is down."“It's just pure lies all the time. Like I said, I'll meet Mary out there and we'll go walk around about one in the morning and make sure we don't have any guards or guns with us and take a stroll around … and see how much they think it's safe, because it's just not true,” said Peterson.Support the show

More than 10,000 Iowans are living with Parkinson's disease — and one state senator believes a common weed killer may be part of the story. On this episode, we talk with state Sen. Art Staed, D-Cedar Rapids, who was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease in 2024. He's been pushing to ban paraquat, a widely used herbicide tied to higher Parkinson's risk. Luke Nozicka of The Midwest Newsroom joins us to discuss his reporting on the debate over banning paraquat, and we hear from Iowan Nate Peterson who believes his own diagnosis traces back to paraquat exposure. Peterson was diagnosed with Parkinson's at age 34. Later, a conversation with 1st Congressional District candidate Democrat Christina Bohannan. Bohannan is running against incumbent Republican Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives.

Interview with Nolan Peterson, CEO of Atlas SaltOur previous interview: https://www.cruxinvestor.com/posts/atlas-salt-tsxvsalt-streamlines-permitting-as-financing-process-accelerates-10969Recording date: 23rd September 2026Atlas Salt Inc. (TSXV:SALT) is developing the Great Atlantic Salt Project in western Newfoundland, a planned 4 Mtpa underground rock salt mine aimed at de-icing markets in Eastern Canada and the US Northeast. CEO Nolan Peterson outlined how changes in the road salt market, a proprietary distribution model and a growing base of lender interest are shaping the project's next phase.The most striking change is in pricing. Road salt has historically been sold to municipalities and governments through annual tenders, with prices rising 2% to 3% a year. In 2026 that pattern broke. The company's presentation cites US tenders clearing at US$155-175 per ton against roughly $88 per ton a year earlier, with some jurisdictions receiving no bids in initial rounds. Peterson attributes the shift to depleted inventories after two hard winters, existing mines operating at capacity with limited expansion scope, and higher costs for diesel and ocean freight that affect both domestic producers and importers.Atlas Salt intends to compete through proximity and analytics. The site sits near a deep-water port, and the company states that shipping to Boston takes about three days compared with more than 14 days from Egypt or Chile. Its in-house Meridian model maps demand across North American jurisdictions and calculates the least-cost supply route for each, allowing the company to target markets where its delivered cost gives it the widest margin. Peterson said back-testing has matched historical tender prices closely. He also noted that an unconstrained run shows profitable demand of up to 6.5 million tons, although this figure has not been studied at feasibility level.On financing, the 2025 Feasibility Study sets initial capex at C$589 million. Atlas Salt is targeting approximately C$350 million to C$400 million of senior secured debt and holds non-binding LOIs above C$300 million. These include up to C$150 million from EDC, up to C$75 million from a second export credit agency and approximately C$79 million of equipment financing from Sandvik. Peterson sees these LOIs as anchors that make it easier for commercial banks to join with smaller tickets. The equity component has yet to be determined.On site, early construction is under way, focused on low-cost site preparation during the summer season. The team is expanding, with new site, permitting and safety roles and a new COO. Peterson identified drift development as the main cost and schedule risk, estimating that a 10% slower advance rate could add $10 million to $20 million.The study outlines a C$920 million after-tax NPV8, a 21.3% IRR and approximately C$188 million in average annual free cash flow. Against an enterprise value of C$174.7 million, the market is pricing in substantial financing and execution risk. The key watch-items are conversion of LOIs into binding terms, the size of any equity raise and early underground ground conditions. Positive progress on those fronts would test whether the current valuation gap begins to close.View Atlas Salt's company profile: https://www.cruxinvestor.com/companies/atlas-saltSign up for Crux Investor: https://cruxinvestor.com/subscribe

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Chicago Cubs at Boston Red Sox · Game 1Red Sox have locked up the fifth seed in the AL playoffs. Cubs are trying to earn home field in the wildcard round. Chicago is batting .258 in their past 28 games with a .460 slugging percentage. Red Sox are hitting .224 in their past 27 games with a .300 OBP. Peterson's numbers are better on the road.

Shreyas Laddha of the Salt Lake Tribune was kind enough to join me to discuss his journey to the NBA beat, Darryn Peterson, who he covered at Kansas, Ace Bailey, Keyonte George, and fry sauce!Follow Shreyas on twitter @shre98And make sure to read him at the Salt Lake Tribune! https://www.sltrib.com/staff/sladdha@sltrib.com/Subscribe to the Hoops Nerd channel for Utah Jazz News, Utah Jazz Post Game Shows, Utah Jazz Rumors, Utah Jazz Film Break Downs, and more! My T-Shirt shop: https://www.teepublic.com/user/hansenjames#utahjazz #basketball #nba

Hour three of DJ & PK for September 24, 2026: Sports Columnist for the Tulsa World Berry Tramel Big 12 slate with a ton of matchups in conference play Would you have taken Darryn Peterson at pick number 1?

On this episode of Housekeys, host Cam Villa sits down with Realtor and Real Estate Investor Bobby Peterson to talk about his path from the insurance world to buying and flipping homes. Bobby shares how great mentors helped him get started, what it's like building the business alongside his wife, and how "Bobby Buys Homes" has grown into a full-fledged team. He talks about the value of investing in yourself, surrounding yourself with the right people, and why new investors shouldn't try to do everything alone. Bobby also shares his Sacramento roots, his move from Curtis Park to Arden Park, and how fatherhood, golf, and personal growth are changing how he views success. Music: Welcome to the Show by Kevin MacLeod Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ All speakers in this podcast do not speak on behalf of the Sacramento Association of REALTORS® nor do they represent the Sacramento Association of REALTORS®. All presenters are speaking on behalf of their own profession.

We begin this week at The Northern Crown: An extravagant Russian hotel that never welcomed a single guest, accumulated decades of deaths, rumors, and claims of a towering shadow figure lurking inside—and one worker says he discovered just how dangerous that presence was shortly before the building was finally demolished. Then... holy cow is this is a weird one. The story of Alyoshenka. When an elderly Russian woman claimed she'd brought home a tiny, bizarre humanoid she found crying in the woods, no one believed her—until other witnesses saw it too, police recovered its mummified body, and an increasingly bizarre mystery began to unfold. We travel back to the US where we visit Cincinnati's Music Hall for a series of creepy events. Wrapping up this weeks show, a young child makes an offering to something that keeps visiting her. Also! Exciting news! We were lucky enough to voice a carnival couple, Hank and his wife, for the episode, “Clown Heads” By Em Starr on THE NO SLEEP PODCAST! Do yourselves a favor and go check it out! Tell us how we did! Be sure to leave David and his team a 5 star review where you consume this media. We hope you enjoy this special collaboration as much we loved doing it! AMAZING new merch in the store this month, head on over to badmagicproductions.com to grab your killer clown t's, dancing moth designs or maybe the same apron that Maggie wore at Peterson's! Do you want to get all of our episodes a WEEK early, ad free? Want to help us support amazing charities? Join us on Patreon! Want to be a Patron? Get episodes AD-FREE, listen and watch before they are released to anyone else, bonus episodes, a 20% merch discount, additional content, and more! Learn more by visiting: https://www.patreon.com/scaredtodeathpodcast. Send stories to mystory@scaredtodeathpodcast.com Send everything else to info@scaredtodeathpodcast.com Please rate, review, and subscribe anywhere you listen. Thank you for listening! Follow the show on social media: @scaredtodeathpodcast on Facebook and IG and TT Website: https://www.badmagicproductions.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/scaredtodeathpodcast Instagram: https://bit.ly/2miPLf5 Mailing Address: Scared to Death PO Box 3891 Coeur d'Alene, ID 83816 Opening Sumerian protection spell (adapted): "Whether thou art a ghost that hath come from the earth, or a phantom of night that hath no home… or one that lieth dead in the desert… or a ghost unburied… or a demon or a ghoul… Whatever thou be until thou art removed… thou shalt find here no water to drink… Thou shalt not stretch forth thy hand to our own… Into our house enter thou not. Through our fence, breakthrough thou not… we are protected though we may be frightened. Our life you may not steal, though we may feel SCARED TO DEATH." Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Scared to Death ad-free and a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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What does a golden rope in a dying man's dream have to do with the person in your life you can no longer reach? In this lecture, Jordan Peterson sets out after three questions that turn out to be the same question, what is a man, what is a woman, and what is the highest thing a person can aim at, and pursues them through the strangest doorway imaginable: the despair of the most successful author who ever lived, who had everything a human being could want and still could not find a reason to stay alive. From Tolstoy's vision of something infinite suspended above the abyss, to a treacherous brother who remade himself into the founder of a nation, Peterson builds toward a practical answer with startling reach. And in the most moving moment of the night, his wife Tammy steps on stage to tell the true story of how she won back a sister she was losing, using nothing more than the one thing almost no one is willing to do. What begins as a lecture on identity ends as an instruction manual for getting back the people you thought were gone for good. This lecture was filmed in San Antonio, Texas, on December 12, 2024. Unlock the ad-free experience of The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast and dive into exclusive bonus content on DailyWire+. Start watching now: http://dwpluspeterson.com/yt ALL LINKS: https://feedlink.io/jordanbpeterson // LINKS // Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com Books - https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/books/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Have you noticed that your body seems to be changing even though you haven't changed what you're doing? Maybe the weight is starting to settle around your middle. Your sleep isn't what it used to be. You're struggling to maintain muscle, your energy feels different, and suddenly the things that worked for you in the past aren't working anymore. If that sounds familiar, you may be wondering whether it's simply aging or whether something else is happening. In this episode, I'm joined by Casey Peterson, a nurse practitioner who specializes in medical weight management and hormone health, for a conversation about perimenopause, hormones, body composition, and weight gain. We talk about what can happen to your body during perimenopause and why weight management can become more challenging during this stage of life. We also discuss the role of nutrition, protein, resistance training, sleep, stress, and hormone therapy. Most importantly, this is a conversation about understanding what's happening instead of simply accepting that you have to feel different or struggle with your weight as you get older. If you're in your late 30s, 40s, or beyond and your body suddenly seems to be responding differently, this episode is for you. Episode Highlights: ● What perimenopause can look like before you actually reach menopause ● Why weight can start changing even when your habits haven't changed ● What may be happening with body composition during perimenopause ● Why the weight around your middle deserves attention ● The role protein and resistance training can play during this stage of life ● How poor sleep and chronic stress can affect weight and appetite ● What women should know about hormone therapy and weight management ● Why you don't necessarily have to simply "wait it out" About Casey Peterson Casey Peterson is a nurse practitioner, entrepreneur, and owner of The Balanced Life, The Balanced Woman, and The Balanced Man, telemedicine practices focused on medical weight management and hormone health. She began her career as an emergency room nurse and has since treated more than 1,500 patients in the areas of GLP-1–based weight management and men's and women's hormone health. Casey has completed advanced training in women's hormone therapy and is especially passionate about helping women better understand and navigate perimenopause and menopause. Her approach emphasizes practical, individualized care that addresses symptoms, hormones, weight, strength, nutrition, and long-term health. As a wife and mother of four teenagers, Casey also understands firsthand how easy it can be for women to put their own health last during one of the busiest seasons of life. This perspective helps shape her commitment to empowering women to prioritize their health and well-being. Website | www.thebalancedlifehealth.com Facebook | www.facebook.com/thebalancedlife411 Instagram | @Thebalancedlifehealth Tiktok | @Thebalancedlife411 Youtube | @TheBalancedLife411 Connect with Dr. Alicia Shelly Website | drshellymd.com Facebook | www.facebook.com/drshellymd Instagram | @drshellymd Linked In | www.linkedin.com/in/drshellymd Twitter | @drshellymd About Dr. Alicia Shelly Dr. Alicia Shelly was raised in Atlanta, GA. She received her Doctorate of Medicine from Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine in Cleveland, OH.  Dr. Shelly has been practicing Primary Care and Obesity medicine since 2014.  In 2017, she became a Diplomat of the American Board of Obesity Medicine. She is the lead physician at the Wellstar Medical Center Douglasville. She started a weekly podcast & Youtube channel entitled Back on Track: Achieving Healthy Weight loss,  where she discusses how to get on track and stay on track with your weight loss journey. She has spoken for numerous local and national organizations, including the Obesity Medicine Association, and the Georgia Chapter of the American Society of Metabolic and Bariatric Surgeons. She has been featured on CNN, Fox 5 News, Bruce St. James Radio show, Upscale magazine, and Shape.com. She was named an honoree of the 2021 Atlanta Business Chronicle's 40 under 40 award. She also is a collaborating author for the, "Made for More: Physician Entrepreneurs who Live Life and Practice Medicine on their own terms''. Resources: FREE! Discover the 5 Reasons Your Weight-Loss Journey Has Gotten Derailed (And How To Get Back On Track!)

En este episodio de Creadores Podcast nos sentamos con Héctor Latorre (coach de seducción y habilidades sociales, fundador de Carisma y Confianza) y Alejandro Peterson (experto en transformación masculina y meditación) para hablar sin filtros sobre masculinidad, atracción y por qué la mayoría de los hombres arruina sus posibilidades con las mujeres sin darse cuenta.Si sientes que haces todo bien pero las mujeres no responden, si te preguntas por qué los "nice guys" terminan solos, o si simplemente quieres entender la psicología real detrás de la atracción masculina y femenina, este episodio es para ti. Shownotes00:00 - La verdad sobre la polaridad y la atracción moderna01:32 - Presentación de Héctor La Torre y Alejandro Peterson02:31 - Qué es la masculinidad consciente y por qué cambió el arquetipo de hombre05:05 - Por qué los hombres inseguros y sin iniciativa no atraen a las mujeres07:43 - El error de buscar la igualdad total: diferencias biológicas y psicológicas10:47 - Cómo la vida moderna y las redes sociales debilitan la testosterona13:18 - Pornografía, videojuegos y dopamina: la crisis de polaridad en el hombre16:49 - Cómo la energía del hombre contiene la energía emocional de la mujer20:50 - Qué hacer cuando una mujer está masculinizada y cómo feminizar la relación25:25 - Los 3 pilares clave de la atracción y la seducción en la mujer28:09 - Tests de congruencia: la verdad sobre la estabilidad emocional del hombre31:10 - Ligar a corto plazo vs. sostener una relación sólida a largo plazo35:34 - Por qué los hombres cometen errores fatales en la primera cita40:02 - La paradoja del hombre mujeriego y la psicología del cerebro límbico44:43 - Qué busca la mujer a largo plazo: liderazgo, estatus y capacidad de protección47:00 - Cómo mantener el marco de liderazgo sin caer en el autoritarismo51:00 - Por qué el hombre pierde su poder en la relación cuando evita el conflicto57:47 - Cómo romper la adicción a la validación y a la sexocompulsión1:02:13 - La verdad sobre la sexocompulsión y el trabajo del trauma emocional1:07:19 - Cómo usar la meditación para reprogramar creencias subconscientes1:15:38 - El rol del amor, la familia y la madurez para dejar de ser un picaflor1:17:17 - Los mejores consejos finales para reconstruir tu masculinidad desde cero1:21:06 - Por qué el ego le impide al hombre pedir ayuda y cómo solucionarloSi te gustó este episodio, te recomendamos ver:- https://youtu.be/rIyKrVxLuLY- https://youtu.be/YpnFKFZmcRE- https://youtu.be/U5J3YbGT8BcSi quieres reconstruir tu masculinidad, Alejandro Peterson lanzo su escuela donde brinda todas las herramientas. Puedes aprender mas aquí:https://www.skool.com/identidadmasculinaelite/about?ref=c9eabf2765b442e79b807a815e704622- Recibe 5% de descuento en tu suscripción de los mejores suplementos utilizando el código CREADORES en https://belevels.com/- Recibe acceso gratuito a mi lista de los 100 libros que transformarán tu vida aquí: https://www.creadores.co/newsletter- Únete a la lista de espera para nuestro proximo evento presencial en CDMX: https://creadores.co/eventos/- Invierte en bienes raíces en EE. UU. con nosotros en Creadores Capital y genera retornos promedio del 20% anuales. Aplica aquí: https://www.creadorescapital.com/Redes de invitados:- https://www.instagram.com/alejandropeterson.ok/- https://www.skool.com/identidadmasculinaelite/about- https://www.instagram.com/hector_carismayconfianza/- https://carismayconfianza.com/consejos-de-persuasion-y-seduccion-ig-fb/Creadores- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/creadorespodcast- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/creadorespodcast- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chelozegarra- TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marcelozegarrac- Twitter: https://twitter.com/chelozegarrac- Email: https://www.creadores.co/contacto#CreadoresPodcast #HéctorLatorre #AlejandroPeterson #Masculinidad #Seducción #DesarrolloPersonal #Atracción #Podcast

What happens when we receive God's mercy but struggle to extend that same mercy to others? The story of Jonah shows how easily disappointment and bitterness can keep us stuck in our own perspective. But the mercy of God meets us in the belly of the whale and invites us to lay down our bitterness and become the embodiment of the mercy of God to others.

Dan introduces us to a new thing to be afraid of, the qareen. This entity feels like a suped up doppleganger. We hope you like it! The, a much kinder entity helps a young woman out when she is having a really bad day. Then Lynze also has a helpful ghost called Sarah, who helps keep a baby safe. Lastly, the creepiest version of Winnie The Pooh makes an appearance.  AMAZING new merch in the store this month, head on over to badmagicproductions.com to grab your killer clown t's, dancing moth designs or maybe the same apron that Maggie wore at Peterson's!  Do you want to get all of our episodes a WEEK early, ad free? Want to help us support amazing charities? Join us on Patreon! Want to be a Patron? Get episodes AD-FREE, listen and watch before they are released to anyone else, bonus episodes, a 20% merch discount, additional content, and more! Learn more by visiting: https://www.patreon.com/scaredtodeathpodcast. Send stories to mystory@scaredtodeathpodcast.com Send everything else to info@scaredtodeathpodcast.com Please rate, review, and subscribe anywhere you listen. Thank you for listening! Follow the show on social media: @scaredtodeathpodcast on Facebook and IG and TT Website: https://www.badmagicproductions.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/scaredtodeathpodcast Instagram: https://bit.ly/2miPLf5 Mailing Address: Scared to Death PO Box 3891 Coeur d'Alene, ID 83816 Opening Sumerian protection spell (adapted): "Whether thou art a ghost that hath come from the earth, or a phantom of night that hath no home… or one that lieth dead in the desert… or a ghost unburied… or a demon or a ghoul… Whatever thou be until thou art removed… thou shalt find here no water to drink… Thou shalt not stretch forth thy hand to our own… Into our house enter thou not. Through our fence, breakthrough thou not… we are protected though we may be frightened. Our life you may not steal, though we may feel SCARED TO DEATH." Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Scared to Death ad-free and a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What if the reason you feel stuck has nothing to do with your circumstances and everything to do with a story you don't know you're telling? In this lecture, Jordan Peterson sets out to answer a single question, what is and should be the story of your life, and arrives somewhere most people never look: the ancient account of a people escaping slavery, and a shepherd who becomes a leader only once he has grown up. Along the way Peterson argues that tyranny is not first a political fact but a personal one, playing out in your own head, your marriage, and your kitchen before it ever reaches a nation, and that the thing you aim at silently decides everything you are able to see. What begins as a walk from one point to another turns into a map of how an ordinary person is called out of the desert, and a surprisingly practical answer to the oldest complaint of all, that you know what you should do and cannot make yourself do it. This lecture was filmed in Los Angeles, California, on May 15, 2024. Unlock the ad-free experience of The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast and dive into exclusive bonus content on DailyWire+. Start watching now: http://dwpluspeterson.com/yt ALL LINKS: https://feedlink.io/jordanbpeterson // LINKS // Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com Books - https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/books/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Twenty-five years after September 11, retired United Airlines Captain Charlie Peterson shares a story most people have never heard: hours after the attacks, with US airspace grounded and fighter jets in the sky, Charlie volunteered to fly a plane carrying United's emergency response team toward the Flight 93 crash site in Shanksville, Pennsylvania — not knowing just how closely his own aircraft would be watched along the way. It's a quiet, remarkable account of an ordinary pilot doing the job he was trained for on the most extraordinary day of his career. Reality Life with Kate Casey Vanity Fair Article: https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/story/martha-moxleys-diary What to Watch List: https://katecasey.substack.com Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/katecasey Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/katecaseyca Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@itskatecasey?lang=en Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/113157919338245 Amazon List: https://www.amazon.com/shop/katecasey Twitter: https://twitter.com/katecaseySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

By the time Michael Peterson went to trial, the case had attracted national attention, particularly after details about his personal life came to light, particularly his numerous affairs with men. The case gained even more attention when it was learned that, in 1985, Michael Peterson's friend Elizabeth Ratliff died under very similar circumstances to those of his wife. With significant evidence against him and no compelling argument for his innocence, Michael Peterson was found guilty of his wife's murder in 2003. But, as it turned out, that was hardly the end of the story.ReferencesAssociated Press. 2002. "Durham novelist insists wife's death caused by fall on stairs, not beating." Winston-Salem Journal, February 20: 6.Cain, Brooke. 2022. A ‘Staircase' timeline from Kathleen Peterson's death to her husband's trial and plea. May 10. Accessed July 16, 2026. https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article260637047.html.Curliss, J. Andrew, and Vicki Cheng. 2001. "Death of former candidate's wife under scrutiny." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), December 11: B1.Dalesio, Emery P. 2003. "Prosecution: Death was no accident." Charlotte Observer, October 4: 26.Griffin, Anna. 2003. "Durham writer found guilty of killing wife." Charlotte Observer, October 11: 1.—. 2001. "High-profiler gets unwanted attention." Charlotte Observer, December 16: 23.—. 2003. "Peterson murder case goes to jury." Charlotte Observer, October 7: B1.Jarvis, Craig. 2002. "Peterson case takes a turn." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), May 11: 1.Jarvis, Craig, and John Sullivan. 2001. "Peterson seen as vibrant, devoted." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), December 23: 1.Johns, Michael. 2002. "Peterson's motive?" The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), January 20: 28.Jones, Aphrodite. 2013. A Perfect Husband. New York, NY: Pinnacle.Kane, Dan. 1999. "Mayoral candidate's fake-wound disclosure splits backers." News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), September 23: 3B.Lee, Demorris. 2003. "Agent's findings point to beating." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), August 15: 1.—. 2002. "Durham DA seeks exhumation." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), October 19: 1.—. 2003. "Sisters grant autopsy request." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), February 17: B1.—. 2002. "Stepdaughter files suit against Peterson." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), October 30: B3.Lee, Demorris, and Aisling Swift. 2001. "Peterson indicted in death." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), December 21: 1.—. 2001. "Peterson to spend holiday in jail." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), December 22: B1.Lee, Demorris, and Craig Jarvis. 2003. "Autopsy: Peterson friend slain." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), April 29: 1.Modell, Josh. 2018. "The real killer in The Staircase might be -- an owl?" Vulture, June 14.Murphy, Dennis. 2006. Death at the bottom of the stairs. November 25. Accessed July 16, 2026. https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna15894727.Peterson, Michael. 2019. Behind the Staircase. Durham, NC: Independently published.Press, Associated. 2001. "Special grand jury called in death of arts patron." Charlotte Observer, December 20: 23.Rogers, Patrick, and Lori Rozsa. 2022. Revisit PEOPLE's 2002 Conversation with Michael Peterson, Whose Wife's Death Inspired HBO Max's 'The Staircase'. May 5. Accessed July 16, 2026. https://people.com/crime/people-magazine-2002-interview-with-michael-peterson-the-staircase/.Saker, Anne. 2003. "Peterson Trial: Trial opens, rival lawyers offer weapon theory, accident scenario to jury." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), July 1: 1.—. 2003. "Sexuality introduced into the trial." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), August 8: 1.Sheehan, Ruth. 2002. "Is Peterson the wrong man, too?" The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), February 21: 15.—. 2002. "Win-win tactic for DA." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), October 28: 15.State of North Carolina v. Michael Iver Peterson. 2007. 547A06 (Supreme Court of North Carolina, November 9). Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

AMAZING new merch in the store this month, head on over to badmagicproductions.com to grab your killer clown t's, dancing moth designs or maybe the same apron that Maggie wore at Peterson's! f This week, Dan is coming in hot with a ouija board double feature. First, a group of teenage boys are having the most boring afternoon when thigs take a turn in a different direction. Then, three sisters enjoy many sessions of nothing happening while they play with their ouija board. Until it all goes south and they meet the demon, Zozo. Lynze's first tale is a bit unusual, making us scratch our heads and ask if the paranormal is something "real" or something "learned". What say you? Lastly, a creepy kid invites her babysitter to join her in playing with something no one else can see.  Do you want to get all of our episodes a WEEK early, ad free? Want to help us support amazing charities? Join us on Patreon! Want to be a Patron? Get episodes AD-FREE, listen and watch before they are released to anyone else, bonus episodes, a 20% merch discount, additional content, and more! Learn more by visiting: https://www.patreon.com/scaredtodeathpodcast. Send stories to mystory@scaredtodeathpodcast.com Send everything else to info@scaredtodeathpodcast.com Please rate, review, and subscribe anywhere you listen. Thank you for listening! Follow the show on social media: @scaredtodeathpodcast on Facebook and IG and TT Website: https://www.badmagicproductions.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/scaredtodeathpodcast Instagram: https://bit.ly/2miPLf5 Mailing Address: Scared to Death PO Box 3891 Coeur d'Alene, ID 83816 Opening Sumerian protection spell (adapted): "Whether thou art a ghost that hath come from the earth, or a phantom of night that hath no home… or one that lieth dead in the desert… or a ghost unburied… or a demon or a ghoul… Whatever thou be until thou art removed… thou shalt find here no water to drink… Thou shalt not stretch forth thy hand to our own… Into our house enter thou not. Through our fence, breakthrough thou not… we are protected though we may be frightened. Our life you may not steal, though we may feel SCARED TO DEATH." Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Scared to Death ad-free and a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

When Kathleen Peterson died in December 2001, it was assumed her death had been the result of an accidental fall down the stairs after combining alcohol and Valium. However, within a few weeks, suspicion fell on Kathleen's husband, Michael, after the medical examiner concluded that Kathleen's injuries were consistent with assault, not an accidental fall.By the time Michael Peterson went to trial, the case had attracted national attention, particularly after details about his personal life came to light. The case gained even more attention when it was learned that, in 1985, Michael Peterson's friend Elizabeth Ratliff died under very similar circumstances to those of his wife. ReferencesAssociated Press. 2002. "Durham novelist insists wife's death caused by fall on stairs, not beating." Winston-Salem Journal, February 20: 6.Cain, Brooke. 2022. A ‘Staircase' timeline from Kathleen Peterson's death to her husband's trial and plea. May 10. Accessed July 16, 2026. https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article260637047.html.Curliss, J. Andrew, and Vicki Cheng. 2001. "Death of former candidate's wife under scrutiny." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), December 11: B1.Dalesio, Emery P. 2003. "Prosecution: Death was no accident." Charlotte Observer, October 4: 26.Griffin, Anna. 2003. "Durham writer found guilty of killing wife." Charlotte Observer, October 11: 1.—. 2001. "High-profiler gets unwanted attention." Charlotte Observer, December 16: 23.—. 2003. "Peterson murder case goes to jury." Charlotte Observer, October 7: B1.Jarvis, Craig. 2002. "Peterson case takes a turn." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), May 11: 1.Jarvis, Craig, and John Sullivan. 2001. "Peterson seen as vibrant, devoted." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), December 23: 1.Johns, Michael. 2002. "Peterson's motive?" The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), January 20: 28.Jones, Aphrodite. 2013. A Perfect Husband. New York, NY: Pinnacle.Kane, Dan. 1999. "Mayoral candidate's fake-wound disclosure splits backers." News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), September 23: 3B.Lee, Demorris. 2003. "Agent's findings point to beating." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), August 15: 1.—. 2002. "Durham DA seeks exhumation." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), October 19: 1.—. 2003. "Sisters grant autopsy request." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), February 17: B1.—. 2002. "Stepdaughter files suit against Peterson." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), October 30: B3.Lee, Demorris, and Aisling Swift. 2001. "Peterson indicted in death." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), December 21: 1.—. 2001. "Peterson to spend holiday in jail." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), December 22: B1.Lee, Demorris, and Craig Jarvis. 2003. "Autopsy: Peterson friend slain." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), April 29: 1.Modell, Josh. 2018. "The real killer in The Staircase might be -- an owl?" Vulture, June 14.Murphy, Dennis. 2006. Death at the bottom of the stairs. November 25. Accessed July 16, 2026. https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna15894727.Peterson, Michael. 2019. Behind the Staircase. Durham, NC: Independently published.Press, Associated. 2001. "Special grand jury called in death of arts patron." Charlotte Observer, December 20: 23.Rogers, Patrick, and Lori Rozsa. 2022. Revisit PEOPLE's 2002 Conversation with Michael Peterson, Whose Wife's Death Inspired HBO Max's 'The Staircase'. May 5. Accessed July 16, 2026. https://people.com/crime/people-magazine-2002-interview-with-michael-peterson-the-staircase/.Saker, Anne. 2003. "Peterson Trial: Trial opens, rival lawyers offer weapon theory, accident scenario to jury." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), July 1: 1.—. 2003. "Sexuality introduced into the trial." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), August 8: 1.Sheehan, Ruth. 2002. "Is Peterson the wrong man, too?" The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), February 21: 15.—. 2002. "Win-win tactic for DA." The News and Observer (Raleigh, NC), October 28: 15.State of North Carolina v. Michael Iver Peterson. 2007. 547A06 (Supreme Court of North Carolina, November 9). Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What does the oldest sibling feud in the Bible have to do with the argument you keep having with the person you love most? In this lecture, delivered improbably in the city of sin, Jordan Peterson takes the story of a twin who cheats his own brother out of everything and uses it to map a single idea he calls aiming up. Starting from something as ordinary as a fight with your spouse that never seems to resolve, Peterson descends, level by level, into what he argues is really going on underneath: a buried betrayal, a broken trust, and a choice between the desire to win and the harder work of peace. Along the way he explains why the cynic is not the intelligent one in the room, why the wealth of an entire nation rests on something as fragile as a handshake, and how a crook with no reason to hope becomes the father of nations. What he arrives at is not a sermon but a description, of the one decision available to you in any moment, no matter how far down you have fallen, and of the strange acceleration that begins the instant you make it. This lecture was filmed in Las Vegas, Nevada, on May 19, 2024. Unlock the ad-free experience of The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast and dive into exclusive bonus content on DailyWire+. Start watching now: http://dwpluspeterson.com/yt ALL LINKS: https://feedlink.io/jordanbpeterson // LINKS // Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com Books - https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/books/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices