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In this episode, we investigate the documented links between Tommy Robinson, the English Defence League, pro-Israel activists, international funding networks, and the wider counter-jihad movement. We examine the role of Rebel Media, the influence of figures such as Ezra Levant and Robert Shillman, the EDL's attempts to build alliances with Jewish and pro-Israel organizations, and the political debates surrounding those relationships.Links⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠email:beyondtheparadigm@yahoo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Beyond the Paradigm - YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/paradigm1979⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠twitter.com/paradigm_79⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(1) Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support The Show⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/BeyondTheParadigm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠buymeacoffee.com/beyondthep5

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How much does the average documentary filmmaker's biggest licensing mistake cost?A 30-second Jackson 5 clip can run a documentary $50,000 to $70,000 in licensing fees. Veteran ARC Producer Teddy Cannon has spent a decade in the messy middle between production and legal, and he is here to walk Christian through how to keep your film from becoming the next case study.In Episode 277, host Christian Taylor sits down with Teddy to break down the role most documentary filmmakers overlook until it costs them tens of thousands of dollars: the ARC Producer, the modern hybrid of the Archival Producer and the Clearance Producer.The conversation centers on three frameworks that every documentary filmmaker needs before rolling camera. First, the $70,000 Jackson 5 case study, a real licensing scenario Teddy is working on right now. Second, the Public Location is not Public Domain rule, which catches filmmakers who assume that filming a statue, mural, or artwork in a public space makes it free to use. Third, the Berry Picking method for finding rare archival footage in places the standard stock libraries do not reach. Teddy also gives a first look at ArcWorks, the digital management system he is building to replace the spreadsheet workflows the industry has been stuck with for decades.In this episode, you'll learn:Why a 30-second clip of a famous artist can cost $50,000 to $70,000 to licenseThe difference between an Archival Producer and a Clearance Producer (and why you need both)Why filming a statue in a public park can still require legal clearanceHow the Fair Use doctrine actually works for documentary filmmakersThe Duck Rule for understanding fair use in 7 secondsWhen fair use protects you and when an attorney is required for E&O insuranceThe Berry Picking method for finding rare footage in small, non-digital museumsHow a senior ARC Producer can save thousands through industry relationshipsWhat it costs to hire an ARC Producer ($2,500 to $3,500 per week)A first look at ArcWorks, Teddy's new digital management systemChapters:0:00 The $70,000 Mistake: Why Licensing Matters1:03 What is ARC Producing? (Archival + Clearance)1:51 How Teddy Became an ARC Producer2:29 What are Clearance and Third-Party Assets?3:21 Why Third-Party Assets Aren't Just Free to Use4:07 Public Location is not Public Domain6:45 Case Study: The Jackson 5 and Music Licensing Risks9:21 What is the Fair Use Doctrine?10:39 Fair Use Example: News Footage11:08 Documentary First Brought to You By Virgil Films Entertainment12:13 The Cost and Duties of an ARC Producer13:06 How Big of an Impact can an ARC Producer Make?14:49 Berry Picking: Finding the Right Footage16:34 The Importance of Unique Archival Material19:47 ArcWorks: A New System for Archival Management22:11 How to Reach Teddy Cannon22:48 Docu Deja Vu: Yacht Rock and Kiss the Future24:14 Documentary First Signing OffFREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONSWhat is an ARC Producer in documentary filmmaking?An ARC Producer is the modern hybrid role that combines what used to be two separate jobs: the Archival Producer, who finds and sources third-party footage, photos, and audio, and the Clearance Producer, who secures the legal rights to use those assets. In today's production pipeline, the two roles have melded into one. A senior ARC Producer is hired in pre-production, not at the end, and saves filmmakers thousands of dollars by spotting licensing problems before footage gets locked in the edit.How much does it cost to license music from a famous artist for a documentary?Licensing music from a major artist like the Jackson 5 can cost $50,000 to $70,000 for a single 30-second clip. That figure includes both the synchronization license, which is the right to use the song with picture, and the master use license, which is the right to use the specific recording. Music is among the most expensive third-party assets because it requires clearance from both the publisher and the record label, and major artists' estates are often hyper-protective of their brands.Can you film a statue or work of art in a public place and use it in your documentary?No, not without clearance. Even when a statue, mural, or painting is displayed in a public location, the work itself is owned by the artist or estate and is protected by copyright. Documentary filmmakers who include works of art in their footage, whether intentionally framed or accidentally captured behind an interview subject, must clear those works before delivery. Bringing a clearance professional into the pre-production meeting can prevent the costly post-production scramble of identifying artwork after the fact.What is the Fair Use doctrine for documentary filmmakers?Fair Use is a legal doctrine that allows documentary filmmakers to use copyrighted material without licensing it, provided the use serves a clear documentary purpose. The general rule is that the visual on screen must directly relate to what the talking head or voiceover is discussing. If you are talking about a duck and there is a duck on screen, that use typically falls under fair use. Documentary filmmakers should work with both an ARC Producer who understands fair use boundaries and a fair use attorney whose written letter is required for Errors and Omissions insurance.How much does it cost to hire an ARC Producer for a documentary?An ARC Producer's weekly rate ranges from approximately $2,500 to $3,500. Senior, veteran ARC Producers typically command $3,500 per week, while junior producers are available at lower rates. Veteran ARC Producers are often worth the higher rate because their long-standing relationships with stock houses, archives, and rights holders can save the production thousands of dollars through negotiated rates. Most documentary productions hire ARC Producers in pre-production rather than at the end of post-production to maximize cost savings.DocuView DEJA VU PICKSTeddy Cannon recommends two films:Yacht Rock: A Dockumentary (HBO, 2024). A genre-defining archival documentary where the ARC Producer received a third billing credit, a recognition Teddy says reflects the rising value of the archival role in modern documentary.Kiss the Future (Paramount+, 2024). The U2 documentary about the siege of Sarajevo, built on rare archival footage that, in Teddy's words, literally makes the piece.SPONSORED BY VIRGIL FILMS ENTERTAINMENThttps://www.virgilfilms.comABOUT THE GUESTTeddy Cannon is a veteran media producer, ARC Producer, and tech entrepreneur with over a decade of experience in archival sourcing and rights clearance for documentary and clip-based television. Teddy entered the industry as a segment producer on shows like REAL TV and World's Scariest, then transitioned into clearance work where he has spent the last ten years standing at the link in the production line between filmmakers, vendors, and legal teams.Teddy runs Crux Entertainment, the company where filmmakers hire him for his ARC Producer work. He is also the founder of 3P Sync, the tech company developing ArcWorks, a digital management system designed to replace the spreadsheet-based workflows that have dominated archival and clearance work for decades. ArcWorks will handle third-party asset intake, EDL reconciliation, fair use rating, and document signing in a single centralized platform.This is Teddy's second appearance on Documentary First. His first conversation with Christian was Episode 244, which covered his early work on 3P Sync.Connect with Teddy:Email: teddycannon@gmail.comCrux Entertainment: https://www.cruxentertainmentinc.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teddy-cannon-52447314/ABOUT CRUX ENTERTAINMENTCrux Entertainment is Teddy Cannon's ARC production company, the entity filmmakers contract for archival sourcing and rights clearance work on documentary projects. Through Crux, Teddy and his team handle the third-party asset workflow that connects filmmakers, vendors, archives, rights holders, and legal teams. Filmmakers seeking ARC Producer services for an upcoming documentary engage Crux Entertainment directly.Website: https://www.cruxentertainmentinc.comABOUT TEDDY'S COMPANY

In this week's episode of Focus Check, Nino and Johnnie cover a packed week of filmmaking news. The headlines include an in-depth DJI RS 5 review tracing a decade of Ronin evolution, new Blazar Viper 1.5x full-frame anamorphic lenses, Fujifilm's community-voted X-mount lens concepts, smartphone camera highlights from Mobile World Congress 2026 (Vivo X300 Ultra and TECNO concept devices), a new lesson in the “Ethical AI Video for Filmmakers” course exploring Higgsfield AI, the newly introduced RØDECaster Video Core with long-awaited EDL export for the entire range, GoPro's new GP3 AI processor, Leica's US price increase, and the 40th ASC Awards winners with Oscars just around the corner. We have a lot to unpack, so sit back, relax, and tune in!   Chapters & Articles: (00:00) Intro (05:35) DJI RS 5 Review - A Decade of Ronin Evolution Culminates in the Most Capable Single-Operator Gimbal Yet https://www.cined.com/dji-rs-5-review-a-decade-of-ronin-evolution-culminates-in-the-most-capable-single-operator-gimbal-yet/ (23:07) Blazar Viper 1.5X Full Frame Anamorphic Lenses Officially Introduced https://www.cined.com/blazar-viper-1-5x-full-frame-anamorphic-lenses-officially-introduced/ (27:06) FUJIFILM “Focus on Glass – Untold Stories”: 14 X Mount Lens Concepts Revealed, Community Vote Now Open https://www.cined.com/fujifilm-focus-on-glass-untold-stories-14-x-mount-lens-concepts-revealed-community-vote-now-open/ (36:53) Vivo X300 Ultra Introduces 400mm Zeiss Telephoto Lens Kit https://www.cined.com/vivo-x300-ultra-introduces-400-mm-zeiss-telephoto-lens-kit/ (42:32) TECNO Showcases Experiential Phone With Over Ten Concept Devices https://www.cined.com/tecno-showcases-experiential-phone-with-over-ten-concept-devices/ (47:46) Exploring Higgsfield AI - New Lesson in 'Ethical AI Video for Filmmakers' is Live https://www.cined.com/exploring-higgsfield-ai-new-lesson-in-ethical-ai-video-for-filmmakers-is-live/ (54:01) RØDECaster Video Core Introduced With RØDECaster Sync - EDL Export Comes to the Entire Range https://www.cined.com/rodecaster-video-core-introduced-with-rodecaster-sync-edl-export-comes-to-the-entire-range/ (01:04:10) GoPro GP3 Processor Unveiled – AI-Powered 5nm Chip to Drive Push Into “Ultra-Premium End of the Imaging Market” https://www.cined.com/gopro-gp3-processor-unveiled-ai-powered-5nm-chip-to-drive-push-into-ultra-premium-end-of-the-imaging-market/ (01:09:40) Leica US Price Increase Confirmed - M-System Leads the Way, SL3 and SL3-S Bodies Unaffected https://www.cined.com/leica-us-price-increase-confirmed-m-system-leads-the-way-sl3-and-sl3-s-bodies-unaffected/ (01:12:08) 40th ASC Awards Winners: Michael Bauman Takes Top Prize for One Battle After Another https://www.cined.com/40th-asc-awards-winners-michael-bauman-takes-top-prize-for-one-battle-after-another/ (01:17:32) Making of Vampires in 'Sinners' - Behind Cinematography and Prosthetics https://www.cined.com/making-of-vampires-in-sinners-behind-cinematography-and-prosthetics/   We hope you enjoyed this episode! Do you have feedback, comments, or suggestions? Write us at podcast@cined.com   

One of our main roles as educators is to support and help our young people figure out who they are and how they want to contribute to the world. Given our current context of rapid technological change with social, technological and ecological challenges, questions about decisions for university, training and future options for young people is becoming increasingly challenging. Similarly, for educators and career and college guidance counsellors too, to be able to continuously navigate this rapidly changing terrain.Back in May, 2023, I had a conversation on the podcast with some young people who were expressing exactly these concerns about decisions and choices they were making in their lives about what courses to choose, and what careers to pursue. Since then I've been really wanting to bring together a group of global experts around this question. So it's a huge pleasure this week to be able to bring them together: Rosa Moreno-Zutautas: Rosa is Global Director - Program Strategy & Partnerships at IC3 Institute. With a background in Clinical Psychology and a graduate degree in Mental Health Psychology, Rosa is dedicated to helping young individuals uncover their potential and purpose in life. Originally from Venezuela, raised in the United States, and currently residing in Canada, Rosa is passionate about IC3's vision of providing career guidance in every school. (https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosa-moreno-zutautas-278767147/)The 2025 Student Quest Report (that Rosa refers to in the conversation) will be released shortly and available here: https://ic3institute.org/research-and-publications/ Anisa Shaikh: Anisa is an experienced senior career & admissions consultant, customer success program & project manager with 12+ years of experience in ed-tech, SaaS, app marketing & media production. She is skilled in leading diverse teams, building partnerships & scaling operations to enhance customer experience & drive revenue growth in dynamic environments (https://www.linkedin.com/in/anisashaikh/).Kathleen deLaski: Kathleen is an education and workforce designer, as well as an author. She founded the Education Design Lab in 2013 to help colleges begin the journey to reimagine higher education toward the future of work. Kathleen now serves as board chair at EDL and on the board of Credential Engine. She spends time as a senior advisor to the Project on Workforce at Harvard University and teaches human-centered design and higher ed reform as an adjunct professor in the Honors College at George Mason University. Kathleen is the author of ‘Who Needs College Anymore: Imagining a Future Where Degrees Won't Matter' (https://www.whoneedscollegeanymore.org/). https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathleen-delaski-1089012b/; Anthony Mann: Anthony is a youth career development researcher and policymaker at Critical Transitions, and until recently was Senior Policy Analyst at OECD. Anthony is the author of The State of Global Teenage Career Preparation, OECD, published in May 2025 (https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/the-state-of-global-teenage-career-preparation_d5f8e3f2-en.html). https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthony-mann-81aaba17/ Shira Woolf Cohen: Shira is a founding partner at Innovageous, an education consulting group focused on ensuring continuity of learning and inclusive opportunities for all children. Prior to founding Innovageous, Shira served as the principal of New Foundations Charter School (2014-2020) and is the recipient of the G. Bernard Gill Award for Urban Service-Learning Leadership. Shira is also the author of ‘Leading Future-Focused Schools: Engaging and Preparing Students for Career Success' (https://www.amazon.com/Leading-Future-Focused-Schools-Engaging-Preparing/dp/B0F9VWS8Z7)

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I'm joined by the extraordinary Olcay Bayir, a British singer-songwriter of Kurdish Alevi origin, originally from Turkey. Olcay opens up about the challenges of immigrating as a teenager, her classical training in opera, and how she has forged her own unique musical path.You'll hear clips from her 2024 album Tu Gulî, along with selections from her earlier projects, featuring songs in several languages. Her rich voice and evocative arrangements breathe new life into Anatolian folk traditions, offering a vibrant and powerful reimagining of this timeless music.In our conversation, Olcay shares:Insights into Alevi culture and spiritualityHow she honours the strength and stories of Anatolian womenher creative process and inspiration from masterful collaborators As always, you can watch this episode on my YouTube channel or listen on your favourite podcast platform. A full transcript is also available, all linked on my websiteSupport page: Ko-fiPodcast merch NewsletterOther episodes I suggest: Omo Bello Sophie Lukacs Gilad Weiss Shahriyar Jamshidi Ali Omar El-Farouk Shirley Kazuyo Muramoto(00:00) Intro(01:54) Songline Music Festival, BBC project, Babel Music Expo inspiration(04:05) album Tu Gul î(07:32) clip of Edlê with Olcay's intro, from Tu Gul î(08:15) Songwriting, performing in 4 languages, diversity of Anatolian cultures(12:15) Alevi culture(15:12) clip of Ötme Bülbül with Olcay's intro, poet Pir Sultan Abdal (17:18) choices in instrumentation and arrangements, Ignacio Monteverde(19:46) clip of Ay Dilberê with Olcay's intro, poet Feqiyê Teyran(21:27) the sad story of Husna, with clip(25:56) childhood in Turkey, how music helped her with the challenges of immigration(29:09) clips of Daha Senden Gayrı Aşık Mı Yoktur? and Nare, Nare with Olcay's commentary (32:46) Other epiosdes you'll enjoy and ways to help this series(33:49) opera studies, early musical experiences, coaching vocal technique(36:51) performance skills(40:10) 2nd album Rüya, clip of Yar Dedi, creative process(42:21) içerde EP, Help Musicians UK, clip of Lost Child(46:15) newfound joy in baking and cooking as a creative pursuit, buying the albums on Bandcamp

John and I welcomed Casey Dreier from The Planetary Society to the program to discuss the proposed NASA space and science budget cuts and the elimination of several key projects. Casey suggested that the direction for these cuts likely originated from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), with minimal input or guidance from the space policy experts.He highlighted several affected programs, including significant budget reductions to the Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope, and the potential termination of the New Horizons and Venus missions. Casey also addressed the almost certain cancellation of the Space Launch System (SLS) and the Gateway program, both of which may die after Artemis 3.We also talked about a potential shift toward commercial Moon missions, though Casey noted the plans were vague and lacked clear direction. Our discussion covered broader topics as well, including cislunar development, cargo and resupply missions to the ISS, the outlook for private space stations, Mars exploration, and entry, descent, and landing (EDL) demonstrations.In Part 2 of the program, John focused on robotic missions—both current and planned—which are all heavily reliant on robotic technology. Casey added insights into the impact of budget cuts and restructuring at key NASA centers, including JPL and Goddard. Before concluding, we asked Casey about the implications of these changes for NASA scientists and engineers. He expressed concern about their uncertain job prospects, noting that opportunities for their highly specialized skills may be limited.Special thanks to our sponsors:Northrup Grumman, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless EntertainmentOur Toll Free Line for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223For real time program participation, email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.comThe Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org.If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135Upcoming ShowsBroadcast 4383: ZOOM: Marcus Chown, UK author | Sunday 08 Jun 2025 1200PM PTBroadcast 4384: Dave Barnhart, CEO of Arkysis | Tuesday 10 Jun 2025 700PM PTBroadcast 4385 Hotel Mars with Eric Berger | Wednesday 11 Jun 2025 930AM PTBroadcast 4386: ZOOM: Bill Gowan | Friday 13 Jun 2025 930AM PTSunday, June 15: No program in honor of Father's Day | Sunday 15 Jun 2025 1200PM PTLive Streaming is at https://www.thespaceshow.com/content/listen-live with the following live streaming sites:Stream Guys https://player.streamguys.com/thespaceshow/sgplayer3/player.php#FastServ https://ic2646c302.fastserv.com/stream Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

John and I welcomed Casey Dreier from The Planetary Society to the program to go over the proposed NASA space and science budget cuts and project eliminations. Casey suspected the direction for the cuts originated out of OMB without much space guidance or thought. He identified several of the projects and programs identified for either a budget cut such as the Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope to the New Horizons and Venus missions being totally eliminated. Casey also talked about the bleak future for SLS and the Gateway for their demise post Artemis 3. Casey talked about their being a shift to commercial Moon missions but with little detail and clarity. Cislunar development, cargo and resupply to the ISS, the future for the private space stations, Mars and EDL for Mars plus demos all were part of our discussion. In Part 2, John talked about the robotic missions including existing missions plus the future missions, all of course depending on robots. Casey worked in commentary about cuts and changes for both JPL and Goddard, two very important and key Nasa centers. Before concluding the program, our guest was asked about the impact of the layoffs for NASA scientists and engineers. Casey suggested they would have an uncertain future ahead of them as their might not be abundant job opportunities for these important skills. Read the full summary at The Space Show website, www.thespaceshow.com and also at doctorspace.substack.com.

DJ “D.O.C.” On Air is a weekly mix show featuring the hottest ElectroseX Records tracks and dance music from around the world from fellow EDM industry producers. Producing/Mixes/Radioshow: info@electrosexrecords.com Record Label/A&R/Owner & Founder: djdoc@electrosexrecords.com New Music out on all platforms including: Beatport https://www.beatport.com/label/electrosex-records/86837 Junodownload https://www.junodownload.com/labels/ElectroseX Traxsource https://music.apple.com/us/artist/dj-d-o-c/1719172929 Beatsource https://www.beatsource.com/label/electrosex-records/66584 MusicWorx https://www.pro.music-worx.com/en/artist/dj-d-o-c/175821 Apple Music https://music.apple.com/us/artist/dj-doc/105750664 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/artist/4cYUeqAGXyqvtPMLSFdprl DJ/Producer & Radio Mixshow Host - Any questions hit me up on my socials or by email. To have your music played on DJ "D.O.C. On Air send your tracks to djdoc@electrosexrecords.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rockstar_dj_doc Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rockstardjdoc Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/rockstardjdoc Soundcloud: https://www.soundcloud.com/rockstardjdoc Website: https://www.electrosexrecords.com Episodes 263 Playlist: Justus - Flashback DJ "D.O.C." Featuring Brittney Bouchard - Stay With Me MureKian & NLW - Loco (MureKian Remix) DJ "D.O.C." x Justen - When You Die Young Unfazed - A Gira (David Guetta Extended Remix) DJ "D.O.C." Featuring Loni - Let It Shine Wladyslaw - Resurgense DJ "D.O.C." Featuring UNDY - Unstoppable EDL & Vision x Encoded - Come With Me Maddix vs. DJ "D.O.C." Retrika & Alex Mueller & AV & Noah Seven - Being Alone DJ "D.O.C." x Jose Cruz - Eat Sleep Rave Repeat MatricK - Back From The Wild Hardwell & Joey Dale Featuring Luciana - Arcadia (VIVID Extended Remix) Melrose Mike x Olly James x DJ "D.O.C." Featuring Jacky Knight - Louder Ray Volpe & Sullivan King - Rewind NIMDA - DIV KILLER DJ "D.O.C." x Melrose Mike x Sullivan King x ELLA - Countdown

The REAL ID Act was passed by the U.S. Congress in May of 2005, as part of https://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/real-id-act-text.pdf (H.R. 1268). Due to costs, logistical issues, legal questions, its full implementation was delayed until 2008, 2011, 2013, and then in 2014 set to be gradually introduced instead. But delays continued into 2020, 2021, and finally until https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2025-04/25_0414_fps_id-requirements-for-federal-facilities.pdf, when it went into full force - kind of. The REAL ID is a new form of https://www.tsa.gov/real-id/about-real-id. Even after 20 years of preparations, implementation is causing widespread confusion across U.S. airports. Up to 7% of domestic flight customers still do not have the new ID and this, mixed with general confusion about requirements, regulations, enforcement, etc., are causing delays and heightening suspicion of every citizen, especially because of the growing frustration and additional screening procedures put in place. However, those without the REAL ID can still fly. How? Well, they will be subject to additional security and the TSA will have to manually check their regular driver's licenses like they always have. These people may also be subject to additional questioning and documentation checkpoints. https://www.tsa.gov/news/press/releases/2025/04/28/tsa-lehigh-valley-international-airport-gets-new-credential?fbclid=IwY2xjawKd591leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFvaEh4VWJ3RmJadVFVdUhBAR6mF6CiS3Eva2ofGQGsU3L5tLIhNJkpUFiZAm1K74M_UpSAsEciqQY_oTWBKA_aem_3wMgsHVa4FW3Utc3QwY9qA just introduced new credential authentication technology to improve checkpoint screening procedures, yet another layer of security. https://www.usa.gov/real-id“Yes. If you do not upgrade your license or state ID, you can use a passport or one of these other acceptable forms of identification to fly.” The list provided includes everything from passports to tribal IDs and enhanced driver's licenses or enhanced identification cards, themselves basically state-run programs akin to the federal REAL ID. What it does not say is that you still may be able to fly without any of those additional ID cards. U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said that the exemption is not just a temporary measure while the bugs are worked out or a matter of presenting a passport: “If it's not compliant, they may be diverted to a different line, have an extra step, https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-homeland-security-chief-says-travelers-without-real-id-will-be-allowed-fly-2025-05-06/.” Without a REAL ID you can still travel, but you will likely be subject to the same, or increased, harassment, demeaning comments, or downright assault, by TSA agents trained to see noncompliants as terrorists. Anyone having ever opted out of the full body scanner knows this to be true. And by definition, this is coercion: “the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats.” The same tactics were used from 2020-2023 for health related reasons.A https://www.yahoo.com/news/know-getting-real-id-090257989.html: "Passengers who present a state-issued identification that is not REAL ID compliant and who do not have another acceptable alternative (i.e., passport) can expect to face delays, additional screening and the possibility of not being permitted into the security checkpoint.” Notice that the words “the possibility” and not the actual guarantee itself, i.e., coercion. And coercion is one of the main red lines in the sand for any constitutionality of the REAL ID in the first place, because the anti-commandeering doctrine of SCOTUS prohibits federal authorities form compelling states to enact or administer federal programs - also, see Fourth Amendment and Tenth Amendment, which reserves powers not specifically delegated to the federal government to the states and people. This can be avoided by outsourcing the whole thing, including the database. Each state has a motor vehicle department which collects and stores the data for REAL ID and EDL or EIC. All of that data is this shared with the private nonprofit American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators (AAMVA), run by boards, directors, and other agency affiliations related to the DMV in each state. Also, non-governmental entities, including corporations, nonprofits, local governments, and individual law enforcement agencies, that align with AAMVA's goals but do not have voting rights in governance, run the AAMVA. As of May 21, 2025, reports are making the rounds that the https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2025/05/21/tsa-airport-security-privatization/83767563007/?fbclid=IwY2xjawKd599leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFvaEh4VWJ3RmJadVFVdUhBAR5FprsNQe5xs23YIi93GovLHkVz87_r7qfnoNZEfe15q7-Oznos2DTb5Lwmeg_aem_Uo91GFvr1c-9wZtd0-Rxag. The REAL ID has never fully been challenged due to political compromise resulting in delays, and states slowly adopting the standard. It's not illegal if states and people adopt the policy themselves through a sort of drawn out coercion of threats and the thought that it will never be fully implemented anyways after twenty years. Proponents, of course, argue that it keeps the country safe, linking the lack of these national ID cards to the cause of 911 - argued for under the Commerce Clause and Necessary and Proper Clause. As https://www.yahoo.com/news/real-id-america-now-national-110039671.html, however, “With REAL ID, America now has National ID cards and Internal Passports.”Interestingly, the original bill specifically says the Secretary of Homeland Security can expand the use of REAL ID for “any other purposes” they “shall determine,” with no other authorization. When you https://www.dhs.gov/archive/real-id-public-faqs, they say “No. REAL ID is a national set of standards, not a national identification card. REAL ID does not create a federal database of driver license information. Each jurisdiction continues to issue its own unique license, maintains its own records, and controls who gets access to those records and under what circumstances. The purpose of REAL ID is to make our identity documents more consistent and secure.”In other words, it's not a card but a standard; its not a federal database, but a state database that links to a nonprofit controlled by the federal government; it's about privacy, even though the records are collected as part of a drag net of coercion and threats; it's about ensuring consistency, but each jurisdiction issues its own “unique license” like they always have. Of course, none of this is discussed, debated, or even known by the public. Instead, they read heartfelt stories about https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/a-challenging-real-id-process-is-stranding-immigrants/ar-AA1F7FE9 who are essentially exempt anyways if they have a permanent resident card, border crossing card, foreign issued passport, immigration services card, and the like. Or they hear about https://www.yahoo.com/news/watch-fake-real-id-sites-164059826.html targeting travelers, as if the “real” REAL ID isn't itself a scam and unconstitutional, which is probably the main reason that DHS says https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-homeland-security-chief-says-travelers-without-real-id-will-be-allowed-fly-2025-05-06/” even without it. So what's the point? It's more extortion for profit (like TSA pre-check), security theater (like hygiene theater in 2020), coercive tactics to enforce compliance with illegal and unlawful dictates (like masking), and another step in criminalizing law abiding citizens (like the https://www.newsweek.com/what-quiet-skies-details-about-secret-flight-spy-program-revealed-1047915). Even the name is a scam, the “REAL ID” as opposed to all those fake sate issued ones by the same states that are now going to be forced to issue the true REAL ID. 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The REAL ID Act was passed by the U.S. Congress in May of 2005, as part of https://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/real-id-act-text.pdf (H.R. 1268). Due to costs, logistical issues, legal questions, its full implementation was delayed until 2008, 2011, 2013, and then in 2014 set to be gradually introduced instead. But delays continued into 2020, 2021, and finally until https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2025-04/25_0414_fps_id-requirements-for-federal-facilities.pdf, when it went into full force - kind of.  The REAL ID is a new form of https://www.tsa.gov/real-id/about-real-id. Even after 20 years of preparations, implementation is causing widespread confusion across U.S. airports. Up to 7% of domestic flight customers still do not have the new ID and this, mixed with general confusion about requirements, regulations, enforcement, etc., are causing delays and heightening suspicion of every citizen, especially because of the growing frustration and additional screening procedures put in place. However, those without the REAL ID can still fly. How? Well, they will be subject to additional security and the TSA will have to manually check their regular driver's licenses like they always have. These people may also be subject to additional questioning and documentation checkpoints. https://www.tsa.gov/news/press/releases/2025/04/28/tsa-lehigh-valley-international-airport-gets-new-credential?fbclid=IwY2xjawKd591leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFvaEh4VWJ3RmJadVFVdUhBAR6mF6CiS3Eva2ofGQGsU3L5tLIhNJkpUFiZAm1K74M_UpSAsEciqQY_oTWBKA_aem_3wMgsHVa4FW3Utc3QwY9qA just introduced new credential authentication technology to improve checkpoint screening procedures, yet another layer of security. https://www.usa.gov/real-id“Yes. If you do not upgrade your license or state ID, you can use a passport or one of these other acceptable forms of identification to fly.” The list provided includes everything from passports to tribal IDs and enhanced driver's licenses or enhanced identification cards, themselves basically state-run programs akin to the federal REAL ID. What it does not say is that you still may be able to fly without any of those additional ID cards. U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said that the exemption is not just a temporary measure while the bugs are worked out or a matter of presenting a passport: “If it's not compliant, they may be diverted to a different line, have an extra step, https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-homeland-security-chief-says-travelers-without-real-id-will-be-allowed-fly-2025-05-06/.” Without a REAL ID you can still travel, but you will likely be subject to the same, or increased, harassment, demeaning comments, or downright assault, by TSA agents trained to see noncompliants as terrorists. Anyone having ever opted out of the full body scanner knows this to be true. And by definition, this is coercion: “the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats.” The same tactics were used from 2020-2023 for health related reasons.A https://www.yahoo.com/news/know-getting-real-id-090257989.html: "Passengers who present a state-issued identification that is not REAL ID compliant and who do not have another acceptable alternative (i.e., passport) can expect to face delays, additional screening and the possibility of not being permitted into the security checkpoint.” Notice that the words “the possibility” and not the actual guarantee itself, i.e., coercion. And coercion is one of the main red lines in the sand for any constitutionality of the REAL ID in the first place, because the anti-commandeering doctrine of SCOTUS prohibits federal authorities form compelling states to enact or administer federal programs - also, see Fourth Amendment and Tenth Amendment, which reserves powers not specifically delegated to the federal government to the states and people. This can be avoided by outsourcing the whole thing, including the database. Each state has a motor vehicle department which collects and stores the data for REAL ID and EDL or EIC. All of that data is this shared with the private nonprofit American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators (AAMVA), run by boards, directors, and other agency affiliations related to the DMV in each state. Also, non-governmental entities, including corporations, nonprofits, local governments, and individual law enforcement agencies, that align with AAMVA's goals but do not have voting rights in governance, run the AAMVA. As of May 21, 2025, reports are making the rounds that the https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2025/05/21/tsa-airport-security-privatization/83767563007/?fbclid=IwY2xjawKd599leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFvaEh4VWJ3RmJadVFVdUhBAR5FprsNQe5xs23YIi93GovLHkVz87_r7qfnoNZEfe15q7-Oznos2DTb5Lwmeg_aem_Uo91GFvr1c-9wZtd0-Rxag. The REAL ID has never fully been challenged due to political compromise resulting in delays, and states slowly adopting the standard. It's not illegal if states and people adopt the policy themselves through a sort of drawn out coercion of threats and the thought that it will never be fully implemented anyways after twenty years. Proponents, of course, argue that it keeps the country safe, linking the lack of these national ID cards to the cause of 911 - argued for under the Commerce Clause and Necessary and Proper Clause. As https://www.yahoo.com/news/real-id-america-now-national-110039671.html, however, “With REAL ID, America now has National ID cards and Internal Passports.”Interestingly, the original bill specifically says the Secretary of Homeland Security can expand the use of REAL ID for “any other purposes” they “shall determine,” with no other authorization. When you https://www.dhs.gov/archive/real-id-public-faqs, they say “No. REAL ID is a national set of standards, not a national identification card. REAL ID does not create a federal database of driver license information. Each jurisdiction continues to issue its own unique license, maintains its own records, and controls who gets access to those records and under what circumstances. The purpose of REAL ID is to make our identity documents more consistent and secure.”In other words, it's not a card but a standard; its not a federal database, but a state database that links to a nonprofit controlled by the federal government; it's about privacy, even though the records are collected as part of a drag net of coercion and threats; it's about ensuring consistency, but each jurisdiction issues its own “unique license” like they always have. Of course, none of this is discussed, debated, or even known by the public. Instead, they read heartfelt stories about https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/a-challenging-real-id-process-is-stranding-immigrants/ar-AA1F7FE9 who are essentially exempt anyways if they have a permanent resident card, border crossing card, foreign issued passport, immigration services card, and the like. Or they hear about https://www.yahoo.com/news/watch-fake-real-id-sites-164059826.html targeting travelers, as if the “real” REAL ID isn't itself a scam and unconstitutional, which is probably the main reason that DHS says https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-homeland-security-chief-says-travelers-without-real-id-will-be-allowed-fly-2025-05-06/” even without it. So what's the point? It's more extortion for profit (like TSA pre-check), security theater (like hygiene theater in 2020), coercive tactics to enforce compliance with illegal and unlawful dictates (like masking), and another step in criminalizing law abiding citizens (like the https://www.newsweek.com/what-quiet-skies-details-about-secret-flight-spy-program-revealed-1047915). Even the name is a scam, the “REAL ID” as opposed to all those fake sate issued ones by the same states that are now going to be forced to issue the true REAL ID. 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He's one of Britain's best known - and most controversial - journalists, famed for his combative style and for interviewing people other outlets won't touch. Now, after a three-decade relationship with Rupert Murdoch's media empire, he is going it alone with his own YouTube show, Piers Morgan Uncensored.In an exclusive interview for the Daily T, Piers Morgan talks about the re-election of his friend Donald Trump and says he expects the Republican will win a Nobel Peace Prize for ending the war in Ukraine within two years.He also tells Kamal and Camilla that Nigel Farage has “a very good chance” of being PM after the next election and says he would interview EDL co-founder Tommy Robinson.Read: Piers Morgan interview: ‘Trump will win the Nobel Peace Prize in two years'Producer: Lilian FawcettSenior Producer: John CadiganPlanning Editor: Venetia RaineyExecutive Producer: Louisa WellsSocial Media Producer: Rachel DuffyVideo Editor: Andy MackenzieStudio Operator: Meghan SearleEditor: Camilla TomineyOriginal music by Goss Studio Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Tommy Robinson has caused a rift on the rightIt feels like just yesterday the X owner and the Reform leader were pictured together at Mar-a-Lago. Now Elon Musk has publicly attacked Nigel Farage, saying he ‘doesn't have what it takes' to lead the party and should be replaced.The men are split over Tommy Robinson, real name Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. Currently in prison for contempt of court, the far-Right activist has received Musk's backing, while Farage has distanced himself from the EDL founder.Their public spat began after the resurfacing of the child grooming scandal, as it was revealed a Labour minister declined to lead an inquiry in Oldham. We also ask: would a new inquiry help the victims get justice?Producer: Lilian FawcettSenior Producer: John CadiganPlanning Editor: Venetia RaineyExecutive Producer: Louisa WellsVideo Editor: Andrew MackenzieStudio Operator: Meghan SearleEditor: Camilla TomineyOriginal music by Goss Studio Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Send us a textIn this thought-provoking interview, former EDL leader Guramet Singh opens up about his experiences and perspectives on key issues surrounding Tommy Robinson's arrest, Kier Starmer's political stance, and the complexities of Islam in today's society. Guramet shares his insights on the implications of political leadership in relation to community dynamics and examines the challenges and misconceptions surrounding Islam. Join us for an engaging discussion that sheds light on controversial topics and promotes understanding in a divided world.#GurametSingh #EDL #TommyRobinson #KierStarmer #Islam #PoliticalDebate #CommunityIssues #UnderstandingIslam #FreedomOfSpeech #SocialCommentarySupport the showJoin this channel to get access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVjOe4UwNRZx89uBXojoPcw/joinYou can also listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & Google Podcasts!For more content head over to..Instagram: ThecentralclubpodcastFacebook Page: The Central ClubFacebook Profile: Central ClubTiktok: thecentralclubpodcastTiktok: thecentralclubclipsE-mail us at: Thecentralclubpodcast@gmail.comSTAY CENTRAL

Show notes: In this episode, Bill and Jeffrey discuss his unique path from Harlem through prestigious educational institutions, ultimately leading him to degrees at Harvard and MIT and working in software. After spending 9 years helping an education business with their digital transformation, he created JobReady, developing career-aligned course collections, enabling job seekers to follow pathways that lead to jobs and promotions. We discuss the company's exit, how he found Education Design Lab, the lives changed along the way, and much more! Learn more: Watch this episode on YouTube https://youtu.be/W2fW6ZpF_2o Host: Jeffrey M. Zucker Producer: Kait Grey Editor: Nick Case Recording date: 10/10/24 Bill Hughes https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhughes316/ Education Design Lab: https://www.linkedin.com/company/education-design-lab/ https://eddesignlab.org/ https://www.instagram.com/educationdesignlab/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6vgVHYOkJk6RIY6HJnyQBA Other resources: https://www.open4learning.com/ https://innovationlabs.harvard.edu/ https://www.edc.org/careers-edc?utm_source=edc&utm_medium=LN&utm_content=job&utm_campaign=smedcorg Bio: Software executive focused on new ventures, strategy, innovation, and product management. As CEO and Founder of JobReady, his goal is to deliver high-quality, affordable, relevant career pathways and credentials for the 21st century to a million job seekers and career shifters. JobReady is developing career-aligned course collections from the thousands of courses available, enabling job seekers to follow pathways that lead to jobs and promotions. Initial pathways will include cybersecurity, data science, project management, leadership, IT skills, business skills, and certification prep. Message Bill directly for more information about JobReady and how you can learn more. Expertise: Corporate strategy, business development, new ventures, win-win deals, software product management, new product development, venture capital, entrepreneurship, strategic consulting, project management, software development, financial analysis, analytical modeling, software patents.  Chapters: 0:00 - Intro 2:37 - New Majority Learner 4:51 - What Motivates You? 11:37 - Education 12:55 - Pearson 17:29 - Job Ready 21:59 - Education Design Lab 37:08 - Generative AI 49:54 - Why Can't We Get Re-Routed? 57:53 - EDL's Future 1:07:14 - When Work Affected Change 1:09:48 - Most Grateful for 1:12:53 - Snap Your Fingers 1:16:28 - How to Support

Transcripts and some chapter headings are AI Generated. They are not authoritative. Always refer to the actual content of the podcast. Please support Tommy's work: Urban Scoop SupportIn this episode, we delve into the controversial topic of the English Defence League (EDL) and its portrayal in the media. The Sammy Woodhouse interviews Guramit Singh, a former leader of the EDL, to discuss the organization's history, its disbandment in 2011, and the misconceptions surrounding it. Singh clarifies that the EDL was never a far-right racist organization and that it actively expelled far-right racists from its ranks. He also addresses the recent riots in the UK, emphasizing that they were not organized by the EDL but were a result of broader societal issues.Singh criticizes the media and politicians for labeling peaceful demonstrators as far-right extremists and discusses the two-tier policing and justice system in the UK. He argues that the media and politicians are stoking tensions between communities for their own agendas. The conversation also touches on the role of religion in British society, the perceived favoritism towards the Muslim community, and the challenges faced by the Christian community.The episode concludes with a discussion on the future of British politics, the need for a pro-British political party, and the importance of free speech. The host and Singh agree that while the road ahead is challenging, there is hope for change if people remain united and vocal about their concerns.

Its been quite a month in the UK. This episode I cover the UK race riots, featuring an interview I did with US podcast It's Going Down. Discussing the post organisational nature of the UK far right, how the EDL doesn't exist, the state's response to the riots and more. This show is part of the channel zerio network. Listen to all the shows at channelzeronetwork.com Support the show at patreon: patreon.com/12rulesforwhat

Trong gần một tuần, bạo động đã nổ ra tại nhiều thành phố ở Vương Quốc Anh sau vụ một thanh niên 17 tuổi tấn công bằng dao làm thiệt mạng ba bé gái tại Southport, tây bắc nước Anh. Chính phủ của thủ tướng Keir Starmer quy trách nhiệm cho những nhóm cực hữu đứng sau các cuộc bạo loạn. Nguyên nhân sâu xa của vụ việc này là gì ? RFI Tiếng Việt đặt câu hỏi với nhà báo Nguyễn Giang, định cư lâu năm tại Anh Quốc.**********RFI Tiếng Việt : Trước hết, anh có thể giải thích rõ thêm về nguyên nhân thực sự của những vụ bạo loạn ? Phải chăng di dân luôn là vấn đề « nhạy cảm » tại Anh Quốc ?Nhà báo Nguyễn Giang : Mười ngày bạo động, đốt phá ở chừng 10 thành phố, thị trấn của xứ Anh (England) và Bắc Ireland cho thấy có hàng loạt vấn đề trước mắt và lâu dài mà chính phủ của Công đảng phải giải quyết. Đó là sự hoạt động kín của các nhóm dùng mạng xã hội, là thái độ bài ngoại, phân biệt chủng tộc âm ỉ trong dân bản địa Anh đã lâu, là các vấn đề kinh tế khó khăn, câu chuyện di dân, người nhập cư và cả bệnh tâm thần và tệ nạn say xỉn, nghiện ngập.Đầu tiên là việc những kẻ theo phái cực hữu, dân tộc chủ nghĩa Anh nghe theo những lời kêu gọi lan truyền trong các cộng đồng mạng dùng chatapp khép kín, người không được mời không thể tham gia, để tổ chức các đợt tấn công vào khách sạn có người nhập cư, tỵ nạn được chính quyền cho tạm cư. Họ cũng nhân đó đốt phá xe cảnh sát, đập cửa tiệm, ném gạch đá vào một số ngôi đền Hồi giáo ở những vùng mà căng thẳng sắc tộc đã có sẵn.Nhắc lại đợt bạo loạn tương tự năm 2011 ở Anh, các tờ báo lớn đều cho rằng chỉ xử phạt, bỏ tù những kẻ gây rối thôi sẽ không giải quyết được gốc rễ của vấn đề tha hóa trong thanh thiếu niên thất nghiệp, sự nghèo nàn về sinh hoạt cộng đồng và các căn bệnh xã hội bấy lâu nay ở các đô thị thua thiệt trong kinh tế.Cảnh sát Anh cáo buộc nhóm cực hữu English Defence League đứng sau cuộc bạo loạn. Anh có thể cho biết rõ thêm về nhóm cực hữu này ? Chủ trương hành động của họ là gì? Nhà báo Nguyễn Giang : Nhóm cực hữu này đã bị cấm từ 10 năm qua, nhưng các nhà báo Anh khi đến các điểm bạo loạn thì họ nhận ra là có các thành viên cũ của English Defence League (EDL) tham gia đốt phá, hoặc đứng ngoài xem, quay video. Cựu thủ lĩnh của tổ chức này là Tommy Robinson thì không ở Anh nhưng vẫn có thể phát biểu qua mạng xã hội thúc giục những người tin theo ông ta ra tay.Cũng phải nói rằng báo chí Anh vẫn trích dẫn lời Tommy Robinson để hiểu ra vì sao ông ta và những kẻ bài ngoại nói và làm như vậy. Điều đáng chú ý là EDL không còn chính thức hoạt động, nhưng các lập luận của họ vẫn có ảnh hưởng nhất định trong một số giới. EDL cũng không phải là tổ chức công khai phân biệt chủng tộc, bài Do Thái như một số đảng cực hữu ở châu Âu.Trái lại, họ nói là văn hóa bản địa của người Anh bị đe dọa bởi hai thứ: một là làn sóng dân nhập cư quá cao, hàm ý người Hồi giáo và châu Phi, và hai là thái độ thờ ơ, bỏ mặc của tầng lớp trên ở Luân Đôn, gồm cả chính phủ và giới truyền thông.Dù bị luật chống khủng bố Terrorism Act 2000 cấm, những cựu thành viên của tổ chức này vẫn tuyên truyền trên mạng xã hội, đôi khi trả lời phỏng vấn đài báo chính thống như SkyNews. Họ có cả các nhóm thân hữu tập hợp người Do Thái, người theo đạo Sikh và LGBT.Trong vụ việc này, chính phủ thủ tướng Keir Starmer còn quy trách nhiệm cho các mạng xã hội. Thực hư cáo buộc này là gì ?Nhà báo Nguyễn Giang : Điều đáng nói là bạo loạn nổ ra đúng 9 tháng sau khi Anh thông qua Luật An toàn mạng (Online Safety Act) nhằm ngăn chặn việc lan truyền tin giả qua các nhóm dùng mạng khép kín. Thế nhưng trong vụ việc mới đây, tin giả nói thủ phạm chém chết ba bé gái ở Southport, Anh Quốc “là người di dân vừa vào Anh bất hợp pháp” đã lan tỏa rất nhanh, thúc đẩy làn sóng bài ngoại lên cao.Sự thật là hung thủ sinh ra ở Anh chứ không phải người nhập cư, nhưng điều đó không được các nhóm phân biệt chủng tộc nghe theo. Đây là bằng chứng cho thấy trong một xã hội tự do, việc giám sát mạng xã hội rất khó và sắp tới, chính phủ của Thủ tướng Kier Starmer nói sẽ làm chặt hơn, nhưng sẽ không dễ, ví dụ như luật Anh cấm tuyên truyền kỳ thị chủng tộc, chống di dân nhưng không ai cấm cả các công ty điều tra dư luận và đài báo hỏi dân chúng về thái độ của họ đối với người nhập cư.Trên thực tế, nhiều người dân ở Anh gồm cả người không phải gốc bản địa Anh cũng lo rằng kinh tế khó khăn, nhà ở đang thiếu mà làn sóng di cư trái phép cứ tiếp tục thì gánh nặng cho chi tiêu công sẽ tăng, trực tiếp hoặc gián tiếp ảnh hưởng đến đời sống của họ. Sự thất vọng trong cuộc sống đẩy cao tâm lý nghi kỵ, bài xích người khác họ.Trong vụ việc gần nhất đây, hiện tượng người Hồi giáo ở một số vùng phải đứng ra bảo vệ cơ sở tôn giáo của họ cũng bị phe bài ngoại cho rằng cảnh sát chỉ bênh người Hồi giáo và bắt giữ toàn người gốc Anh bản địa, khiến cho tình hình thêm căng thẳng. Phải tới cuối tuần qua, số người biểu tình chống phân biệt chủng tộc, gồm rất nhiều thành phần sắc tộc, xã hội, mới tụ họp đông đảo ở Luân Đôn và các đô thị khác, nêu lên tiếng nói hòa bình của đa số, khiến tình hình giảm nhiệt đi trông thấy.Tại sao bạo động đặc biệt diễn ra dữ dội tại các thành phố Sunderland, Liverpool, Hull… , những thành phố phía bắc nước Anh ? Và đây cũng phải là lần đầu tiên những cuộc bạo loạn bài chủng tộc diễn ra ở Anh ?Nhà báo Nguyễn Giang : Không phải ngẫu nhiên mà nơi nổ ra bạo loạn ở vùng miền Trung và Bắc nước Anh, cộng thêm một số điểm ở phía Đông Luân Đôn và ở Bắc Ireland đều là những nơi có tỷ lệ nghèo khó cao nhất nước. Ví dụ như Blackburn, Blackpool, Hartlepool, Hull, Liverpool, Manchester và Middlesbrough nằm cả trong số 10 đô thị xuống cấp, nghèo đi so với trước, theo thống kê của chính phủ trong bảng Indices of Deprivation (Hạng mục suy thoái, xuống cấp).Tại các vùng này, nơi người nhập cư từ Nam Á đã sống cạnh người Anh mấy thế hệ nhưng việc làm ít, đầu tư công bị cắt giảm khiến căng thẳng sắc tộc thường cao hơn các vùng khá giả. Không ít gia đình người Anh sống trong cảnh vất vưởng về việc làm, về cơ hội vươn lên trong khi đầu tư công, chi phí cho xây dựng cộng đồng, hỗ trợ thất nghiệp bị cắt giảm liên tục.Trong một số vụ bị xử tù tuần qua vì gây bạo loạn, người ta thấy có những ông già người Anh và có các thiếu niên 17-18 tuổi, trẻ nhất có em 14 tuổi, chứng tỏ những vấn đề nghiêm trọng đã bao phủ mấy thế hệ. Một em trai khác, 15 tuổi, thuộc dạng lêu lổng, đi từ North Lincolnshire tới Hull thăm bạn thì thấy bạo loạn nên tranh thủ hôi của, cũng bị xử tù. Đây không phải là những chuyện vui vì các tệ nạn khác trong giới trẻ người Anh như tỷ lệ bệnh tâm thần, nạn nghiện hút, rượu chè, nay vì các vụ bạo loạn cũng được nói tới.Tân chính phủ Công đảng nếu không thay đổi chính sách thì sẽ khó giúp người dân trở nên lạc quan, có thái độ tích cực hơn, thay vì tâm lý bài xích, phản kháng (anti-social attitude). Cũng ở một số địa phương đó, năm 2011 đã từng xảy ra bạo loạn tương tự và đây là dấu hiệu nhiều vấn đề sâu xa chưa được các nhiệm kỳ khác nhau của chính quyền giải quyết.Phải chăng cuộc bạo loạn đang diễn ra hiện nay minh chứng cho những gì ông David Cameron từng nói năm 2011 là chủ nghĩa đa văn hóa đã thất bại tại Anh Quốc ? Giới chính trị gia có trách nhiệm như thế nào về tình trạng hiện nay ở Anh?Nhà báo Nguyễn Giang : Ở Anh từ lâu nay không có định nghĩa cụ thể về chủ nghĩa đa văn hóa (multiculturalism) như cách hiểu ở Đức, Pháp hay một số nước châu Âu là văn hóa người châu Âu đón nhận các dòng văn hóa của người di cư từ châu Á, Trung Đông, châu Phi tới.Lý do là lịch sử Liên hiệp Vương quốc Anh, trên danh nghĩa, đã chứa đựng yếu tố đa văn hóa của các nhóm bản địa gốc Âu từ lâu: Anh, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, sau này thêm dân Đức, Pháp, Do Thái, và Đông Âu nên người ta cho rằng việc có các văn hóa khác như Hồi giáo, văn hóa Á Đông bổ sung nào cũng không sao cả.Cũng vì thế, chính trị gia Anh nói khác nhau về chủ nghĩa đa văn hóa. Hồi năm 2011, ông David Cameron không tin vào điều này và cho rằng cần có một yêu cầu mạnh hơn buộc người nhập cư bỏ chủ nghĩa cực đoan để chấp nhận các giá trị của nước Anh, nhưng một cựu thủ tướng Anh khác của đảng Bảo thủ, Rishi Sunak, người gốc Ấn, lại cho rằng Anh đã rất thành công khi tạo ra “nền dân chủ đa văn hóa” (multicultural democracy).Điều này người ta nói tới không phải là đa văn hóa nữa, vì nó khá trừu tượng mà vấn đề di dân. Một điều tra của Viện Ipsos hồi tháng 2/2024 cho thấy 52% người được hỏi ở Anh tin rằng số người nhập cư vào là quá cao, so với 42% vào năm 2022.Trong bối cảnh này, tân chính phủ thủ tướng Keir Starmer chủ trương đường lối cứng rắn với những kẻ gây bạo loạn. Liệu thủ tướng Anh có đủ các phương tiện cũng như sự ủng hộ của người dân để thực hiện các biện pháp đó ?Nhà báo Nguyễn Giang : Năm 2011, khi Anh nổ ra các cuộc bạo loạn lần đầu, ông Kier Starmer là trưởng công tố quốc gia và đã đích thân chỉ đạo việc xử tù những kẻ gây rối. Tuần qua, ông cũng tỏ ra cứng rắn, yêu cầu toà án, công tố viện làm việc ngày đêm để xử nhanh khoảng 150 bị cáo gây bạo loạn. Tuy thế, các báo Anh nói ở cương vị thủ tướng, ông Starmer cần có cái nhìn dài hạn và tìm giải pháp sâu rộng cho các vấn đề gốc rễ của bạo loạn tức là sự rạn nứt xã hội (social rifts). Án tù sẽ chỉ ngăn được những kẻ liều lĩnh tràn ra phố vì tức giận, nhưng không hóa giải, thuyết phục được khá nhiều người khác lo ngại về xung đột sắc tộc ở Anh.Bạo loạn nổ ra một tháng sau khi Công đảng giành được đa số tuyệt đối trong cuộc bầu cử Nghị Viện. Tuy nhiên, trong cuộc bầu cử này, lần đầu tiên một đảng cực hữu là Reform UK đã có chân trong Nghị Viện Anh. Cuộc bạo loạn này phải chăng cho thấy là cũng giống như nhiều nước châu Âu lục địa, tân chính phủ Anh đang phải đối mặt trước đà trỗi dậy của phe cực hữu ?Nhà báo Nguyễn Giang : Công đảng thắng cử vừa qua chủ yếu là vì cử tri ở Anh chán đảng Bảo thủ cầm quyền đã lâu, sau 5 đời thủ tướng trong vòng 14 năm cả thẩy, chứ không phải vì cương lĩnh tranh cử của Công đảng quá hấp dẫn. Cùng lúc, đảng Reform UK thu được 14% tổng số phiếu bầu và về nhì ở trên 90 khu vực bầu cử trên cả nước mà chỉ có 5 ghế nghị sĩ trong Hạ viện, do hệ thống bầu cử Anh tuân theo nguyên tắc « Được ăn cả ngã về không » (first-past-the post-electorial sysem). Điều này khiến một phần phe thiên hữu trong đảng Reform UK của ông Nigel Farage và cả trong đảng Bảo thủ cảm thấy họ bị thiệt thòi và đang dùng mạng xã hội đe dọa chính phủ Công đảng là “sẽ có bạo loạn còn to hơn”.Tuy phe thiên hữu đã hiện diện công khai trong Nghị viện và có thể dùng các thủ tục lập pháp để thay đổi chính sách, nhưng họ lại thích dùng mạng xã hội để gây sức ép “ngoài luồng” lên chính phủ. Điều này đang gây đau đầu cho chính phủ Anh và cũng cho thấy phe cực hữu, thiên hữu ở Anh nói riêng và ở châu Âu nói chung ưa thích các cách đấu tranh, công kích phi truyền thống, ngoài nghị trường và các chính quyền sẽ không dễ hạn chế ảnh hưởng của họ.Nhiều đời chính phủ gần đây đã có các chính sách siết chặt di dân nhưng bất thành. Anh có thể điểm lại sơ qua các chính sách đó và cho biết thêm tân chính phủ Anh sẽ có đối sách ra sao đối với hồ sơ di dân ?Nhà báo Nguyễn Giang : Trong nhiều thập kỷ, Anh là quốc gia di cư, có dòng di dân đi nhiều hơn đến, tức là số người ở Anh đến các xứ sở khác sinh sống luôn cao hơn số người nhập cư. Nhưng từ năm 1994 thì Anh là nước nhận người nhập cư nhiều hơn số ra đi. Theo một số cơ quan nghiên cứu thì trong thập niên đầu tiên của thế kỷ 21, cụ thể là tính đến năm 2011, mỗi năm số người vào Anh làm việc, sinh sống cao hơn số ra đi tới 360 nghìn.Các chính phủ qua nhiều nhiệm kỳ coi đây là quy luật đất lành chim đậu, dân số tăng thì kinh tế tăng trưởng theo, và cũng vì dòng người tới từ Liên Hiệp Châu Âu mà Anh là thành viên có quyền tới theo nguyên tắc tự do di cư trong EU nên Luân Đôn không có chính sách gì cụ thể.Chỉ khi Brexit xảy ra thì vấn đề kiểm soát số người nhập cư mới thành vấn đề và chính phủ của đảng Bảo thủ chấp nhận trưng cầu dân ý Brexit năm 2016 một phần để tìm giải pháp tái kiểm soát biên giới, để người từ EU không thể tự do vào Anh nữa.Tuy thế, trong một năm từ tháng 3/2019 đến tháng 3/2020 thì vẫn có trên 700 nghìn người vào Anh, trừ đi gần 400 nghìn người di cư đi nơi khác thì con số ròng vẫn là khoảng 347 nghìn. Dịch Covid có làm ngưng trệ số người vào Anh và sau khi Brexit có hiệu lực từ đầu năm 2021, số dân EU sang Anh có giảm nhưng các nhóm khác vẫn vào đều, thậm chí còn tăng cao.Họ gồm cả người tỵ nạn chính đáng mà Anh đón về từ các vùng chiến sự, từ những nơi Anh có dính líu quân sự như Afghanistan, từ cả các nước như Việt Nam. Chính phủ Bảo thủ muốn chặn dòng người vào Anh bằng đường biển, nên đã ký với Rwanda thỏa thuận mở trung tâm cứu xét hồ sơ xin tỵ nạn ở nước châu Phi đó, nhằm làm di dân trái phép nản chí, không từ châu Âu sang Anh nữa, nhưng chính phủ Công đảng vừa lên đã xóa dự án Rwanda và nói sẽ tăng cường lực lượng chặn biên giới trên biển để ngăn các  thuyền phao chở di dân từ Pháp, Bỉ bơi sang.Cho đến nay chưa thấy chính sách này có hiệu lực, vì không nước châu Âu nào sẵn sàng nhận lại di dân bỏ nước họ sang Anh. Cũng không rõ tới đây chính phủ Anh sẽ làm gì với số người nhập cư lậu đã vào Anh, lên tới hàng trăm nghìn. Giả sử hàng nghìn người bị bác đơn xin tỵ nạn thì sẽ đưa họ về đâu, vì các nước xuất xứ sẽ không dễ dàng nhận.Còn về thị trường lao động, Công đảng muốn giảm việc cấp visa việc làm cho nhân công nước ngoài và mở các khóa huấn luyện tay nghề cho người ở Anh làm các việc đó. Cho tới nay còn quá sớm để biết việc này triển khai ra sao và liệu có hàng trăm nghìn người ở Anh sẵn sàng đổi việc làm để lấp chỗ trống trên thị trường lao động hay chưa.RFI Tiếng Việt xin cảm ơn nhà báo Nguyễn Giang.

Le Royaume-Uni traverse une période de tensions extrêmes, marquée par une vague d'émeutes xénophobes qui secouent le pays. Tout a commencé le 30 juillet à Southport, une petite ville du nord-ouest de l'Angleterre, où une attaque au couteau a coûté la vie à trois enfants. Cet événement tragique a déclenché une vague de rumeurs et de désinformation sur les réseaux sociaux, accusant à tort un suspect d'être musulman. Cette désinformation a rapidement conduit à une recrudescence de la xénophobie, du racisme et de l'islamophobie. Les émeutiers, principalement issus de mouvements d'extrême droite, ont dirigé leur colère contre des cibles spécifiques. Mosquées, hôtels hébergeant des demandeurs d'asile, et commerces tenus par des personnes identifiées comme musulmanes ou non-blanches ont été attaqués. En une semaine, plus de 400 personnes ont été arrêtées, et au moins 120 policiers ont été blessés, soulignant l'intensité de la violence. Ces chiffres rappellent les émeutes de 2011, lorsque la mort de Mark Duggan, un jeune homme métis tué par la police, avait déclenché des troubles dans tout le pays. Les autorités britanniques pointent du doigt le rôle néfaste des réseaux sociaux dans la propagation de la haine. Après l'attaque de Southport, l'English Defence League (EDL), un groupuscule d'extrême droite, a lancé une campagne en ligne pour alimenter la colère publique, forçant même les autorités à dévoiler l'identité du suspect : Axel Rudakubana, un citoyen gallois d'origine rwandaise. Le leader de l'EDL, Tommy Robinson, a largement utilisé la plateforme X pour diffuser des appels à manifester et propager de fausses informations. Ironiquement, Robinson avait été banni de Twitter en 2018, mais a été réintégré en novembre dernier après l'acquisition de la plateforme par Elon Musk. Suite à ces événements de très nombreux manifestants antifascistes se sont réunis dans différentes villes du pays afin de lutter contre les rassemblements prévus par les différentes mouvances d'extrême-droite. Afin d'en apprendre plus et de nous parler de ces actions sur place, nous sommes aujourd'hui avec Raphaël Arnault, député de la 1ère circonscription du Vaucluse et cofondateur de la Jeune Garde. Le député s'est effectivement déplacé à Londres, ce mercredi 7 août pour, je cite "soutenir les camarades antifascistes locaux face aux émeutes et attaques ciblées racistes."

“It's not protest, it's not legitimate. It's crime and violent disorder”. That's how Sir Keir Starmer described the far-Right riots that popped up following the Southport stabbings. But who are the rioters and what is motivating them? Camilla and Gordon speak to a former EDL member about why people join similar groups - and why he left.Then, with six candidates lined up to lead the Conservatives, we hear from the underdog: Mel Stride. The former work and pensions secretary talks about an immigration cap, which taxes he would cut first, and his favourite McDonald's order.ReadSouthport stabbing latest: Starmer will not allow far-Right to co-ordinate ‘summer of riots' Updated 5 minutes agoProducers: Lilian Fawcett and Georgia CoanSenior Producer: John CadiganExecutive Producer: Louisa WellsPlanning Editor: Venetia RaineyVideo Producer: Luke GoodsallStudio Operator: Meghan SearleSocial Media Producer: Niamh WalshEditor: Camilla TomineyOriginal music by Goss Studio Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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https://urbanscoop.news/supportus/ Support our work here.Back in 2009 a grass roots movement was formed off the back of 'The United People of Luton', that organisation was the English Defence League.The EDL was formed as a response to radical Islamists who drove radicalisation rates in the Muslim community, and increased terror threats through their preaching of hate and intolerance for anything un-Islamic.The English Defence League always had a non-white speaker at their events, one of those speakers was EDL co-leader Guramit Singh.Guramits presence at EDL demonstrations had the the press and their race grievance Marxist co-conspirators in a bind, but it did not stop them from labelling the EDL as a 'Far Right' organisation.This podcast not only dispels the media narrative of the EDL being a group of far right white extremists, it also shows a level of respect and camaraderie between two friends who fought against 'Far Right' influencers and antagonists who infiltrated the organisation, wanting to take the EDL in a different direction.Guramit speaks of his experiences within the EDL and talks about life after leaving the organisation.This is a candid conversation between two friends who helped educate English youth about our wartime allies, the Sikh community, a community who have honour, who are brave, who have integrated very well into British society.The Sikh community have first hand knowledge of 'grooming gangs' and how to deal with them.

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David Atherton is a journalist and broadcaster and a prolific tweeter. His regular updates and commentaries on the clash between Islam, our Western freedoms and the impact of uncontrolled immigration have made him a voice of reason. He joins us to discuss the latest grooming gang trial that is simply the latest of regular instalments of an ongoing attempt to punish these Muslim Pakistani rape gangs. And with the BBC now producing documentaries on forced marriages we need to ask what is the cost to our society of uncontrolled immigration. So join us this episode as David covers all of this and much more. David Atherton is a London-based journalist and broadcaster. He writes for 'The European Conservative', and a number of leading publications as well as being a regular on national TV and radio stations, as well as his popular Twitter account on social media. Follow Dave on Twitter: https://twitter.com/DaveAtherton20?s=20 The European Conservative: https://europeanconservative.com/ Interview recorded: 5.5.23 To sign up for our weekly email, find our social media, podcasts, video, livestreaming platforms and more... https://heartsofoak.org/connect/ Please subscribe, like and share! Transcript (Hearts of Oak) Hello, Hearts of Oak, and welcome to another interview coming up in a moment with David Atherton, who I followed for many years @DaveAtherton20. And I think I started following him because of his exposure of the grooming gangs and willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with Tommy for what he is doing. Anyone who does that is a brave individual and seeks truth more than position or fame. So I think that was why, we haven't met before. So first time we met on the interview, always good fun doing it that way. You never know how things will go. We had a great conversation. We look into, obviously, some of the more recent cases of groups of Muslim Pakistani men who have been part of rape gangs going through the legal system and being prosecuted. All historic, but they're also more current. But this is historic the one we looked at from 2000 to 2006, 11 men jailed, or 11 men about to be jailed, being charged. Only three of them with the first name Muhammad. And we also look at the failure of the authorities to deal with this. Turning a blind eye, council leaders, police, politicians, all turning a blind eye. Basically not wanting a race war, a religious war. So we go into that and then we end up looking at immigration and how that is the, part of driver behind this, that clash that we have between Islam and the freedoms we have in the West and those from Islamic nations and that incompatibility that we are finding with the freedoms that we, have had, still have. So I know you'll enjoy David's expert thoughts on this as I have over the last few years.   And it's wonderful to have David Atherton with us today. David, thank you so much for your time.   (Dave Atherton) Pleased to be here. Thanks a lot for the invite.   Not at all. I enjoyed following your Twitter feed that people can see there @DavidAtherton20 and they can follow that. So I wanted you on for a while, but sometimes things take longer than expected. But thank you for coming on. Before we get on to some of the topics that you have been posting on, could I ask you maybe just take a moment and introduce yourself to our viewers? Yeah, sure. No problems. I spent most of my life in recruitment. So I've always had a real job, so to speak. And funny enough, it was when the smoking ban came in in 2007 that I became quite politically active. I always had an opinion, but then I became politically active about trying to get it reversed, or at least amended to a certain extent. That took me into writing about it. I've got a lot of invites for TV and radio to defend smokers' rights. Last night I was on talk TV. That came up in conversation and it's still one of the things I talk about. And from then on, you know, I was asked by Raheem... Kassam.   Yeah,   one and only Raheem   to write with a commentator, then he took me with him to Breitbart, and here we are today, journalist and broadcaster. So yeah, I can't forget Raheem's name. You picture him in the head there. So that's my background. And one of the things that I've, you know, I think politicians think far too short term. They want an instant fix, you know, to the problem so they can get re-elected. And they completely fail to see the world ahead of them. Where will mass immigration take us into the future? I'm not suggesting that all immigrants are bad, certainly not. The vast majority are perfectly decent people who make a contribution to this country. But unfortunately, there are certain sectors of the community that don't. And this needs to be pointed out, it needs to be discussed. But without being called gammon, racist, bigot all the time.   Yeah, that does come up. So, well, let's, I think the focus probably, and was our initial focus whenever we launched and then COVID tyranny all took over. But was on the culture clash that we see, the clash with Islam and our freedoms in the West, and the clash from other cultures that aren't suited to a Western lifestyle through all types of restrictions on freedom, restrictions on women's position, restrictions on right to choose and change religions, all of that. So that was certainly want to be our focus and then we get thrown a COVID curveball and the focus. But one of your, maybe we'll start on one of the ones recently is this here, 11 men charged in Rochdale grooming investigation. And this is a story we see time and time again. I always have interested that the BBC covered this, but they didn't cover it. It's not a proper story to them. It's a, oh, we'll put it in the Manchester section. So it's not on their main, because they think 11 men getting arrested for rape, basically more or less weekly, isn't an issue. But this is between 2000 and 2006 at Greater Manchester. This is obviously a story that you see regularly and you report on regularly and highlight. Tell us about this.   Right, indeed. Right, well, obviously, you know, for 30 years, you know, Pakistani heritage, rape gangs, they were either protected, ignored, or covered up by the establishment, and by the establishment I mean by the Labour Party, social services, and local councils particularly, actually, will cover things up. Yeah, so what I'll do is I'll try and dig out a quote in the wake of the 2015 jailing of 22, Pakistani heritage rapists, where a moderate imam commented that they actually, local imams actually encouraged the girls, sorry, encouraged the men in the congregation to go out and rape white girls because they wore short-sleeved shirts and mini skirts and things like that. No, it actually says they deserve to be treated like filth. This was published in the Telegraph. This was published in the Telegraph. But anyway, moving on from here, one of the Greater Manchester Police. Rochdale's in the Greater Manchester Police Area. And the Greater Manchester people were put in special measures and Maggie Oliver fought valiantly to get these girls justice from the Greater Manchester Police. I think we have now turned a corner in the sense that the councils won't be allowed to get away with this. They're probably the main offenders, because the Labour Party, 90% of Muslims vote Labour. It's their core vote they don't want to lose. For example, Kim Ledbetter, the Batley and Spen MP, she spent her time talking about the Batley grammar school teacher. She was talking about Palestine in Parliament, you know? You know, what's that got to do, you know, what's that got to do? Because all her constituents are Muslims and they are, by and large, most of them are anti-Semitic. So I look upon this as a positive, positive thing. That girls, women now, obviously women now, are feeling bold and brave enough to go to the police. And report their past rapes and full marks to the police for actually following through and arresting these people and investigating the cases. So I look upon that as being quite positive now. And I must say, the people we have to thank for that, for keeping it in the public eye, are people like Tommy Robinson. I had no idea. I remember, I think it was 2007, I think, you know, Nick Griffin is not my cup of tea. He really is a genuine, foul, nasty fascist, you know. But, you know, when he was accused, when he was up in court, he was accused of citing racial hatred because he suggested that there were white girls being raped by Pakistani heritage men. And I thought, well, mate, you've really done it now, haven't you? You deserve every single year you get for that, mate. Oh, but you're right. Again, it was Tommy Robinson. I dismissed what he said at the time, it was 2006, 2007, whatever it was. But when Tommy Robinson formed the EDL and he brought it to our attention, There's a video of him from 2011 on BBC's Newsnight been interviewed by Jeremy Paxman, and he said the same thing in I thought, Tommy mate. You're gonna be in trouble, you know and then we move onto 2013 when the Xerof cell I mean God you're gonna give the guys full credit, practicing Muslim director of public prosecutions in the Northwest, he brought to trial the Rochdale rapists, and they were all jailed. And you've got to pay tribute to the guy. You've got to be fair here. He was the person, I think, who moved the Titanic around, or the ocean liner around. And it was not a figment of our imagination, and it moved on. And there was a Alexis Jay report of 2014, you know, really makes your hair curl. I'm surprised the government appointed a vi that was so blunt, so blunt about what was going on there. And there's an article also in the BBC that one of the local women who voted community leaders said that the whole of the community knew what was going on in Rotherham, but they turned a blind eye. The Imams, the Muslim establishment, the local councils knew exactly what was going on. They turned a blind eye. Yeah, we see that time and time. I will get on that in a bit, but two things pick up. One was, I love when you watch Tommy with someone who, I mean, Tommy is very much like Nigel Farage and that Nigel would be horrified to have the same sentence, but actually they're individuals who are Marmite and yet they are lovable characters. You put Tommy with someone and actually he's such an infectious personality that if you put someone who disagrees verbally, then if they give him 10 minutes after that, they would actually see him quite differently because he is a warm, hospitable, friendly person. And that goes in, and he's not doing it out of hatred, but he's doing it out of concern for country. Sure. Well, he grew up in Luton, he went to school with other Pakistani heritage children. Some were his mates and some were nasty bullies and pieces of work, you know, who beat you up nicked your wallet and took your lunch money. You know, he saw some of the women who did marry some of the Asian men and they lost contact with their family, you know, they were forced to wear burqas and hijabs and what have you. He saw what cultural devastation that was happening. And it's all too difficult to mention publicly. I think what the government is doing here is, we talked about different cultures here. I think, I always like pointing out on Twitter, you know, I always like to ask the question, why do you think Britain is a relatively rich country and countries like Afghanistan and Pakistan and what have you are relatively poor countries? They can never answer the question. The answer is, we went through the enlightenment in the 17th century, whereby logic and facts and truth overrose superstition and religion. And it led us to free speech, free inquiry, and led to scientific and intellectual developments. And from 1215 Magna Carta, we believe in the rule of law. I've seen lots of Asian men turn around and say, If this was reversed, if white men were raping Muslim girls, they wouldn't bother going to the police. They'd go round mob handed and give the geezer a good spanking. You know, we want the rule of law, we want to go to the police, we expect the police to look into it for us, and justice take its course, you know, and that's how you get a civilised society. You know, their culture seems to be based around mob rule, you know, who's got the biggest baseball bat. Yeah, and with those 11 men, another aspect, I'm intrigued to know your specific thoughts on this, but out of the 11, three of them were of course with a lovely name Muhammad. Only three actually this time. But how, because I see it actually as probably even more of the religious influence. Because of Islam historically spreading by the sword, because of Muhammad having sex slaves, because that was the norm. So it very much being rooted in Islam but also the added view of women in a Pakistani culture context, but that is predominantly from an Islamic heritage. So how do you put, because again, I'm intrigued that, who's the home secretary, it wasn't, not Priti Patel, Suella Braverman, that she has talked about Pakistani gangs, Pakistani individuals, but yet is still afraid to use the word Islam. And I think everything should be on the table to have a proper discussion. Well, indeed. Well, my analysis of the Pakistani-Asian Muslim community is 80% decent, moderate people. They might be a little bit more conservative than us. They might not be pro-LGBT. There was a survey done in 2016 where they found that 52% of Muslims in this country would like to see homosexual acts made criminalized and people jailed, 52 percent. But 80 percent, by and large, rub along, moderate, decent, some are actually quite liberal people. What you got from there on is the 20 percent extremist nutters or whatever you want to call them. And unfortunately, from what I can see of the Islamic community, is the 20 percent tail wags the 80% moderate dog. You know, I was reading about a mosque in Glasgow, there was a battle between the moderates and extremists. And of course, the extremists won. And they won by going around and physically intimidating people and beating them up and things like that, you know. And, you know, you carry on your campaign, we're going to do you sort of attitude. So the problem we have is, is this permeates throughout throughout the whole religion. For example, to give you an example, from the Bible, Leviticus says something along the lines of, man shall not lie down with a woman as he does with a man. It's an abomination. So the Bible is full of quotations about justifying slavery, justifying killing gay people and what have you. We ignore it. We come from the Enlightenment and we believe what goes on in the home, privacy in your own home and club or whatever, is your business, not religions or the states. Now with the Koran, from what I can work out, is, do you know what I mean by abrogated or unabrogated?   Yep, yep. The later verses override the earlier verses, the violent verses override the peaceful, which is a real bummer for Muslims.   Sure, indeed, yeah. Well, indeed, yeah. From what I can work out, the Koran in its current form will never be abrogated, it will never be changed, it will not have new interpretations or things ignored. It is the final word of God and has to be done to the letter down to the last full stop. You know, it can't be changed. And the Qur'an says that us Kafirs, us infidels, are second-class citizens. It is quite straightforward in saying that you can do what you like to people who are non-Muslims. Because it's written in our book. And that includes rape, slavery, and everything else. And until you convert to Islam, you have no choice but to pay, at the best pay extra taxes. Jizya I think they call it, don't they? And so this is what we're up against. It's a fund, you know, the minority of fundamentalists who rule the public space on Islamic spaces. And, you know. The government knows that. Did you see Robert Jenrick's, Jenrick speaks recently, comments? No, no.   Okay, the immigration minister. He said the far right, oh blimey. The far right is something we should not, we should listen to, some of the far right, excuse any paraphrasing here, should be listened to and not private or made private or marginalised. And he actually said, these people who had different cultures to us. No, he sounded like Tommy Robinson on an average day. Right, it's amazing how terms are used and never defined and that's where the confusion, but actually just another spot, of course, if we had an issue with Orthodox Jews running around killing and raping on the basis of Leviticus or something then that would be an issue, but you're right that doesn't happen. It is the problem with Islam and the understanding the basis does seem to be historically in Islam. But this is another, and this is an issue I think my frustration and anger is against the Muslim Pakistani community but also is against the English system. And here your story, Rouhan Adil when age 15 filled himself raping a schoolboy, shared photos of paedophiles online and the police found hundreds of pictures, and he got sentenced to 28 months detention in a young offenders institution of which he will serve half because that's what happens to those who rape children. So he will serve just over a year and I'm amazed that the English legal system thinks that raping children is punishable by a one-year sentence. That's where I think we've got, because if the sentences were huge, if people were locked away for life, then actually that would be a deterrent. A year isn't really a deterrent, is it? No, it's not. No. Um, someone, someone like that should be in jail for what he's like. You probably take his age as mitigation. I would have given him five, six years. personally speaking. If he was 18 at the time I would have given him... 10, 15 years if I've been the judge. And also as well, you know, I really, maybe I ought to do some research, maybe some research here as well, but I always get the impression white people get treated more harshly than the Asian people. I just get this impression, you know, when you were abused multiple times, you know, a 13 year old girl, you know, maybe literally hundreds of of times. There was a one about the greater Manchester which I've forgotten her name now. But she had 177 Asian names, I say Asian, it's interchangeable with Pakistani heritage. And she had 177 names on her phone and she went to the police. You know, her mother went to the police to report it. And they did absolutely nothing. You know, when you're being gang raped by 177 people or possibly up to 177 people and you're 13 years of age, that is 20 years in prison, at least. And, you know, if you're coming out in 10 years, I'll probably give you 30 years for that as well. You know, I don't know whether the judge is being culturally sensitive or whether they think the girls were, to a certain extent, culpable for the wrong behaviour? I don't know. It is just completely unacceptable. And also, one thing I noticed as well, a lot of them get let out a lot earlier as well. There's one guy who was given 20, he was a gang rape leader who was given 20 years, he was let out after five. You know, I just don't know how this is going on. And I'll tell you what, you know. When they do come out of jail, they still don't think they've done anything wrong, some of them anyway. Maybe a majority still think we haven't done anything wrong. Well, that's this. So I wonder, actually, and I'm I'm not someone who is for capital punishment. I believe that life is sacrosanct. So I set that aside. But I do think that actually jail has to be a deterrent, but it has to be rehabilitation. And if someone has not been rehabilitated, then I don't see how they can be let back into society. So I actually think if you cannot, if you do not know whether someone will actually not carry out raping children once again then I think they can be released and that means they need to be held until it can be said that actually they're no longer a danger to society.   Although they should go through physical or chemical castration.   Yep, yep, yep. I think it has to be looked at and how the conversation to the British public because it's to let someone, we've, the legal case we have been involved in with Liz. I mean, her perpetrator, rapist, was in the open prison after something like three years. Ready to be released. An open prison where you're free to come and go and the individual is raping children. It doesn't connect at all.   That is not a punishment. No, that is not a punishment. You know, for example, date rape, for example, you know, assume there's sort of two Europeans, you know, involved in date rape. You know, he said, she said sort of type of thing. Most get five, six years for that. That's two adults. I don't want to be a rape apologist or whatever and minimise the crime. But you know, there's obviously some degree of cooperation, as it were, obviously went back to somebody's place. And, you know, of course the geezer deserves five, six years. But, you know, when you're doing that, you know, you're feeding a 12, 13 year old alcohol and drugs and you're your mates are coming around and, you know, in some dirty little flat above a kebab shop, you know, that's got to be as far worse, worse crime, you know? Yeah, yeah. I want another video you'd reposted was about Oldham, council leader. So let's play this lovely individual. I've just had local elections, but really if you're a UK viewer, you get what you put in. And if you don't go and vote, don't engage, then actually you get individuals like this who are happy for children to be raped but let's just play this 30 second clip. Let me play it   oh bless Emily   I know let me play her...   (video plays) Our publication of that report two weeks ago, I spoke to a number of victims and they came forward and rang me that week the victims that were referenced in the report but also other victims of CSE and Oldham and speaking to those people and how it has affected their lives. You can't say it's destroyed their lives because the people I spoke to, it hasn't, but it has had an impact into adult life. Oh, well, that's rape apologist.   It hasn't, it hasn't destroyed their life? And the thing I can't get around is, if you are men, women will obviously were built differently, I will not even to get into the gender conversation. But I thought as a woman that she, when she saw the stories, when she met with these girls that she would be horrified because, and yet she seemed to say, being raped as a child does not destroy your life. Where do you go with that? Whenever that's what our politicians believe. You know, it's an overused cliché, mic drop time, you know, but, I'm sorry, that is just so offensive and revolting and disgusting. You know, it really renders me speechless on this one. You just, you know, what the hell are you saying, darling? You know, you know. To my mind, you know, if I was Keir Starmer, I'd suspend her for that. And make her come out with a full apology. I've got an idea for a letter. Thank you very much for that one, Peter. You know, you cannot say that. I believe she has slightly retracted that. One of one of her fiercest critics on Twitter, Roger, I think his name is. She has backtracked on that to a certain extent, but really, she should be banished from polite society for the rest of her career for that. She should not be holding any positions of power or authority. She should retire. She should be suspended. should be fired and disappear into the distance and never heard of again. If only, I think probably Sir Keir Starmer will get down on his knee instead to the to the rapist and that's what his response seems to be to crime. This was interesting, you'd put this post up and it's looking at the crime index for cities in Europe and you said does anyone see a correlation? Now, I do see a correlation, and actually number 20 doesn't come in there, which is number 20 is Brussels, which is, of course, 30, is it 30% or 35% is Islamic. And then we've got the beautiful city of Bradford there in the UK at the top and all in between. But to me, actually, it connects the dots of mass immigration, changing cities, and also very high Islamic populations, and our politicians are wondering, why is crime going up?   Sure, absolutely. You know, we're back to cultural differences here, whereby we, one of the reasons I believe Europe has, and America has advanced so much, is we've learned to cooperate at a non-family level. The reason, you know, the Middle East and parts of Asia, that the reason they employ a family because they're the only people they can trust. I'm sure we all nick pens and elastic bands from work, but we'd never think of defrauding the company of a substantial amount of money. Most employees in this country want to do the best for their company because they get a pay rise and things like that. We've amongst ourselves at a business level and it's worth to a certain political level as well have learned to engage with each other and just trust each other. Now it's one of the reasons why in Scandinavia that the government spend so much of their money because the people actually trust their government and the civil servants to spend their money properly. But we've learned cooperation. That's the reason why places like Somalia and Afghanistan and Pakistan and places like that, they're always fighting each other. It's clan warfare. They haven't learned to cooperate as a society. Obviously this is a conversation that politicians don't want to have and you see snippets of it, certainly with the grooming gangs, with the rape gangs you see papers putting it out, as a story I remember the Daily Mirror I think did a massive like 18-month investigation in Telford, they put out a story and it seems to be more entertainment than actually solving an issue, it's simply they get an exclusive story, they're happy to talk about rape on their front page and a couple of pages inside, it maybe does it for a day or two, and then it moves on to whatever. Coronation or the weather or something else. And I'm wondering, I mean, are you more positive that actually we will address this as a society? Because these cases, they're still happening more or less every other week.   I believe we are actually in the present sense, we are addressing it to a certain extent. I had a guy from LBC in touch with me a couple of weeks ago, and he wanted to do a piece on grooming gangs. And put me in touch with a couple of people and did a five-minute segment for the Nick Ferrari show. So I was able to point him in the right direction. You mentioned the Daily Mirror there and the BBC are covering it to a certain extent. I think they have no choice. This is where social media, particularly Twitter and Facebook, have done such a good job, and GETTR, that you can actually go out there and report on it and let people know. And so I look upon that as a positive sign here. But the thing about the BBC, and what I noticed about the LBC report, and probably Sky as well.   And GB News have touched on it as well, I know Charlie Peters has. GB News is quite different. I'll leave GB News to one side if I can. But if you look at the Sky News articles and the LBC article and Daily Mirror article, they talk about grooming gangs, but they don't talk about the ethnicity. You notice that? They don't say, oh, well, you know, well, this needs to be disproportionately, you know, Asian or whatever. They don't mention it. Let's go to the story of how they were raped and what have you. GB News is quite, and Talk TV to a certain extent, are really quite different. When I was on Talk TV last night, I mentioned I got into broadcasting from Defending Smokers' Rights. We had somebody from Ash actually not smoking a health one last night, and it was the first time she's had three people who were against her and disagreed with her. You get on the BBC and ITV like I've done, you know, even the cameraman hates you know, you know, and this is, you know, I've been in touch with Charlie on a couple of matters. And I get the impression he's a genuine guy who wants to do good. And it's really the fact he will go out and call spades, spade shovels and things like that, and tell it how it is. I think it's great news to GB News' credit, and to him personally. You know, and Talk TV, you listen to some of the phone-ins, some of the phone-ins on Talk TV. And so, you know, they know that if you want the screen to light up with phone calls, we're going to talk about immigration today, you know. I don't know if you've seen it, but Talk TV, they've got this screen and there's a room for about 100 phone calls or something like that. And when there's somebody waiting to come on hold, you know, it lights up. And I imagine it'll be great if the whole screen goes white, you know. And I can't believe, you know, some of the language that some of the callers use that go on unchallenged. I'm really, really quite impressed, actually. We've been invaded. They're changing our culture. They don't fit in. I don't think their religion is what we're looking for in this country. I can't believe how much free speech is allowed these days. I think that has changed in that narrative as well. And where I think these people got their ideas was from social media. For example, I was chatting to a producer last night, a presenter of Talk TV, and he said, well, I've never heard of Dave Atherton, how come he's got 58,000 followers? He's not a celebrity, which is true. It's true, isn't it? I got it simply because I've covered immigration on Twitter. That's the reason I've got so many followers. I've been nobbled by Twitter. I posted a Halal slaughter. I put a sensitive marker over it. I didn't go out as it was. Some lefty reported me and now I'm completely nobbled. My impressions are down 80% now. I'm trying to get that reversed. I've tried and I've tried. Anyway, that's by the by. If I had been nobbled, I'd probably have 70,000, 80,000 followers by now. I can just about maintain it at 58,000. The point I'm making here is I think social media and particularly Twitter was crucial in getting the message out and you know that people could see for themselves what was going on.   No completely and you have those numbers because people want news and they find you're putting it out so where else do they go? I want to end on one or two of the immigration stories but when you talk about people phoning in and being angry at what immigration has done and the change. And this is one of them. This is Yasmin Mohammed. Very good in what she does. And this is a video of her. I think it's her talking about forced wedding when she was at her forced wedding, she was so disassociated. She didn't really know what was happening and crying and talk about the trauma, the millions of women. And then Emily talks here about the BBC touching on, I think BBC do it for entertainment, but anyway, the forced marriage unit nowadays is over a thousand cases a year. And I would actually love the government to actually go and focus where this is, because I remember just one, I remember my older son in his class, they had a special class, none of the parents were told, and it was about FGM. So I've got my child, my boy being told about it, what has that got to do with him absolutely zero one it should be the girls and two should be the girls from Islamic backgrounds or Asian backgrounds where it happens, like Somalia where it's what 90% or whatever but the, It seems as though our government is wasting resources because they're so scared to be called racist or Islamophobic. Well, they could have stopped FGM in one fell swoop by prosecuting both parents and sending them to jail. You know, it's a case of, you know, you can't make an omelette without cracking some eggs. You know, I'm sorry, if there's got to be five or six parents who've got to go to jail for allowing their daughters to be FGMed. So be it. If they've got to go to care while they're in jail, so be it. Because that would stop at one fell swoop, FGM in this country. And another thing we need to do is, we've got to stop chain migration. Get the mother-in-law in as well, that kind of thing. Also, I think we should, it was Saeed, the Times journalist, Matthew Saeed. He's of Pakistani heritage. He's suggesting that cousin-cousin marriages should be made illegal. And you have to stop, you know, arranged marriages from Pakistan. That has to stop. And you wonder why it's not illegal already. That's the scary thing. Yeah, I think when it comes to genetic births, genetic deformities from birth, 38% come from the Pakistani heritage community. It should be stopped. I'm sorry, arranged marriages are now finished. You can't have any more. I'm pretty sure this needs to be fact-checked. But I still think even in arranged marriage that there are basic requirements for the English language. If there are not, you can't speak English, you can't have a conversation in English, you're not allowed to come into this country. You know, basically, you know, I think something like 59% of marriages in Bradford are with cousins. And it's basically to keep the wealth into the family. That's the reason they do it. And actually, one of the Islamic sects, Tablighi Jamaat, 80 million, I think, out of New Delhi. And actually, in those marriages, actually, the woman does not even attend her own wedding, because she's a woman. So her father attends the wedding on her behalf. She has zero right. And that is the same in the UK for typically up in Dewsbury. That's typically the amount and the government could stop that in an instant. Sure. I know. But you know what will happen, won't you? You know, if we clamp down on in any shape or form, they know they will be out on the streets, you know, vandalizing stuff and being violent. They're going to have to send the riot police in, possibly even the army. No Home Secretary wants to do that, so they appease them. I'm pretty sure you saw the Wakefield 14-year-old boy who's scuffed at Koran. By the way, the people from the mosque, went knocked on her door and threatened her. You know, and, you know, and they obviously the boy, the autistic boy had death threats. And she thought the only way to get out of this is go to the mosque, put a silly veil over her head and, you know, prostrate herself. And did you see the audience? No, no, I missed that. I didn't see no. It was packed to the rafters of middle age and elderly Asian men sitting sitting cross-legged on the floor. Talk about intimidating, intimidating environment, you know, and she had a grovel and apologize and things like that. The thing that really, really stuck in my craw was the chief inspector for the West Yorkshire Police there condoning everything that had happened, you know, because he knows if he'd gone after the people who threatened the autistic boy, you know, the whole of the community will be after him. Whole of the community will be be after West Yorkshire police. This is violence and intimidation, which one day we will pay the price. We've got two ways of going here. We're going to have to go through a period of civil unrest, or we're all going to have to bend the knee to Sharia law. There is no middle ground here. There's no compromise. There's a guy, his surname is Salih, and he heads up the Five Pillars Fundamentalist media site. And people on Twitter were saying, oh, isn't it wonderful that these Muslims are going into Christian churches and preaching and things like that. And someone asked him, well, can you ever see a Christian priest, a vicar or priest being allowed to go to a mosque? And he put one word. Never. It's always one way, it's always one way. But no, you're, I just, one, I think on the FGM and then we'll finish on immigration, but the FGM, I actually think that it's not just actually children should be in care for a while while the parents are in jail. Actually, the children should be taken away. It is better for the children not to be cut up with knives and blades. So whatever the alternative is, is better than child abuse. So I think they should be completely removed. And if that means thousands of children removed from families. But you're right, it will be riots, religious race riots, everything will get burned down. They'll accuse the Home Secretary of, I don't know, folding the page of a Quran, and therefore they can kill her. We see what happens across the world. So yeah. Well, absolutely. This is one of the reasons the government is so pathetic and weak, is they fear the civil unrest repercussions. Well, let's end up on immigration. There are a load of different stories, but this, I thought this was Noah's Ark, but no, it's not Noah's Ark, it's the immigrant ark. Barge to house 500 male migrants off Dorset Coast, says government, and this was last month. But it gives you an idea of what we're facing, because when the government said they were going to house migrants on boats, I thought they were just taking the mick, but no, this thing has come on. They'll need maybe a hundred of these, but 500 male migrants will be housed in this barge, poor people in Dorset that will see this. And it's coming in the coming months. And the vessel, which is currently in Italy, to break from Italy, there must be only one vessel in the world that can host them, but it will be significantly cheaper than hotels. Obviously, if we need to bring boats from Italy to put people in who are illegally coming in the country, we have a problem. And yet, the government don't seem to want to address the problem. They're just going to get barges. And I guess we'll have hundreds of these off the coast.   Sure. It's sticking plasters rather than cures, isn't it? And until, well, the long-term solution for this is, we need to go to maybe an American style of public administration, whereby the top civil servants are appointed by the government. That doesn't seem to work that badly, in a sense. So what happened was, six migrants had had enough of Britain, and they got back on the ferry to go back to France. And they were dragged back by the police and brought back to Britain. Because the permanent second, yeah, this is the reason why, the permanent secretary, Matthew Rycroft, or one of his officials, they have a gentleman's agreement with France. They won't return people. And so when Suella Braverman was told by a civil service, we can't send them back. To my mind, Rycroft should have been fired on the spot. But any civil servant, if he doesn't have the authority, primary legislation should be done in a day for that to be done. Three line whip, 80 majority, whatever it is. We have the right to hire and fire anybody in the civil service. And anybody who was in the way should be fired on the spot, over you go. And I'm sorry, Macron, I'm sorry, this might sound a little bit over the top, but if we're returning migrants back to France and they didn't need a Royal Navy escort, so be it. You know, I'm sorry, to my mind what Macron is doing, this is a punishment beating for leaving the EU. And quite frankly, Macron can learn how to behave like a civilised human being, or he needs to be taught. And I'm sorry, I think longer term, there is an existentialist threat to this country from terrorism and other social ills, which in five years' time we'll be bitterly regretting what we did. And this needs to be addressed immediately and with robust matters. And quite frankly, if the whole of the Home Office needs to be fired and we've got to start from the beginning again, so be it. It has to be done. And if we've got to find volunteers to man the border force boats. And also as well, one of the first things I would do if I was Home Secretary, the RNLI, the Royal National Lifeboat Institute, have... what's the word I'm looking for? If due to their actions somebody dies, they can't be accused of corporate manslaughter. They have no legal immunity from what they do. And the first thing I would do is I'd take that legal immunity away. And so if you do make a mess of things, you're going to jail for corporate manslaughter. And that would stop the RNLI boats a split second. Also, these are practical short-term solutions. And so you look, the people in the Border Force, you're staying in port. I'm sorry. We can go out to France, you go to the camps, you hand out leaflets saying, we're not going to pick you up anymore. And that's the end of the thing. And I'm sorry, Macron doesn't like that, too bad mate. Well, let's end just on a picture, which kind of connects with the RNLI, although I don't think Macron can behave like a grown up. I think that's impossible, but I'll let you keep your fingers crossed, David. This was a lovely, lovely poster. 80 years ago, we stopped an entire German army crossing the English Channel. Now we can't stop an effing dinghy. Love it. That is through the RNLI, which have become basically a... Do you want to, for our non-UK viewers, for US viewers, do you want to just let them know what the RNLI is and what it's become? Right. Yeah. The Royal National Lifeboat Institute is a civilian fleet of boats, which is entirely paid out of charitable organizations, and the people are volunteers, but the chief executive earns 180,000 pounds a year, whilst the people who are risk their lives on the sea barely get their expenses covered. They have to give up work, they live self-employed, they lose money. And if they get a 999 call equivalent to a 911 call, they're expected to drop what they're doing, jump in the boats, and rescue the people concerned. In fact, there was actually one guy who was getting married and he got a bleep, but just as he was about to put the ring on her finger, but he had to go. So I believe also there are quite a few RNLI people who actually resigned in protest, over being sent out to pick up migrants in the middle of the sea. It might be 10%, but it is. But the whole point is, like in America, we have this woke culture, the ESG woke type culture, whereby Professor Matthew Goodwin reckons about 16% of the population, the sort of the degree-educated people, you know, the bon passant thinking people, you know, who believe in ultra-liberal policies. And there's nothing at the moment us plebs can do about it, despite the fact that 85% of people oppose it. In Britain, something like 60-70% of people are opposed to immigration still, at the numbers and what have we. You know, the vast majority of people don't mind genuine refugees, you know, fleeing. We don't mind that. The Ukrainians is a good example. They are genuine refugees. But we really do object to all the people who are coming over here freeloading economic migrants. Oh, by the way, let me quote, I don't think I mentioned it, but in Sweden, A research company interviewed refugees who had been given asylum in Sweden because they were fleeing persecution, oppression, wars and what have you. They've asked the question, have you returned home at all? 79% have returned home, gone back to their home country on vacation. 79%. You know, if that's not the biggest sign that, you know, the government are mugs, aided and abetted by the liberal and woke classes, and these people are pathological liars. I've just got, you know, chances, and what have we. I know you have to be stupid, naïve or a complete idiot. Yeah. Well, on that, I think we'll finish up.   Before we go, Peter, can I just quote to you very briefly? I managed to find it as we've been talking. Here we are, yeah. I'll just quote you the attitudes that some Muslims have in this country. In 2018, seven men were jailed for raping and pimping out girls from the ages of 11 to 15. Dr Taj Hargey, the imam of Oxford Islamic Congregation, said it was, quote, "bound up with religion and race", adding, quotes, "In mosques around the country a different doctrine is teached" One that denigrates are women who treat whites with particular contempt. "Men are taught that women are second-class citizens, little more than chattels or possessions over whom they have absolute authority." "Their dress code from mini skirts to sleeveless tops is deemed to reflect their impure and immoral outlook." "According to this mentality, these white women deserve to be punished for their behaviour by being exploited and degraded." End of quote.   I've seen some things that Tariq has put out and he does seem to be trying to highlight some of that, but it's wonderful. Well, it isn't wonderful, but it's good when you hear the community discussing the problem and hopefully others will wake up to that. Well, David, it's been good to meet you at long last. It happens regularly, but thanks for coming on. I know that if people are not following you they certainly can do, @DaveAtherton20 go and follow David on Twitter.

Our education system is changing rapidly and the once vital skills of debate and reason have been washed away with a fear of offence and disagreement. James Harvey is our guest today and he is a student who has had to stand his ground. It would have been so much easier to fit into the woke madness and keep his head down, but that's not James. He has bravely stood for common sense, reason and debate in his university so he joins Hearts of Oak to discuss his experiences and also to talk about how and why he set up Students Against Tyranny. James Harvey is a 19 year old who is the founder of Students Against Tyranny, a platform to connect like-minded students so they don't feel so isolated and alone in their beliefs. He is also a proud journalist for Voice of Wales and the host of the Thursday evening show on Unity News Network. Follow James on social media..... 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Transcript (Hearts of Oak) Today, we're going to look at education, which we've looked at in varying degrees, but this time, what it is like for those going through university at the moment. And it is wonderful to have James Harvey with us tonight. James, thank you so much for your time.   (James Harvey) I really appreciate you having me on. Not at all. Watched you, what you're doing with Students Against Tyranny, obviously, seeing you on Voice of Wales, and you're there in the Voice of Wales set, well-known to us all. Obviously on Unity News. When are you on? Is it Tuesday or Thursday evenings? Thursday evening at 8 p.m. on UNN. So we'll catch you there. And your handle there at JamesHarvey2503. People can follow you on Twitter and find out what you're up to. Obviously you were at the fifth anniversary Unity News Network, and I saw a number of pictures you put up over those few days. Yeah, it was absolutely brilliant. So I got to meet some people that I, you know, I've spoken to a lot online, never met them in person, like Siraj for example, correct not political, stuff like that. And it was just, it was an amazing couple of few days really. I mean, on the first day we went outside the Ministry of Defence and unrolled a banner. Straight after that, then we went to Parliament Square where I got to wave a placard around that said not a penny more to the Zelensky regime in front of all the Extinction Rebellion lot. And have a few conversations with them as well, because that's what it's all about, isn't it? Free speech and you know, ability to debate and I found that with groups like Extinction Rebellion, they're a lot more willing to have that conversation with you than say Antifa or stand up to racism. So yeah, I enjoyed it. No, absolutely. And we're going to talk about your, maybe your background first. I know I followed the issues you've had, I guess being a conservative student, someone who believes right and wrong, common sense. You can't wake up and change your gender over your cornflakes or whatever area that we are being bombarded with. And I kind of watch my kids in school, but obviously at university, which is supposedly a bastion of free speech where your ideas are challenged, where you clash with other people and you come out a better person because you better understand issues. It is becoming very, very different. do you just want to give us a I guess a snapshot of what it has been like for you and the difficulty you have faced?   So I've faced a lot with my university but what I will say is that what I found through my research is that the highest ranked universities are often the most restrictive around free speech. If you're going to a university that focuses on your creativity over your academic ability, then usually that university is much better in terms of free speech. So for example, if you go to Cambridge or the Imperial College, where they're very highly ranked in the UK, they are very restrictive around free speech and they're more likely to punish you for wrong think and being outspoken in kind of conservative and liberal viewpoints. My university, which is Trinity St. David's in Swansea, is it focuses on creativity over academic ability. So I found that it's much better in terms of free speech. However, I have faced some issues along the way. So there was two videos, right? So there was one video where I basically talked about one of our teachers who'd made a student drop out by going on a rant about toxic masculinity and all this kind of this anti-man feminism stuff, right? And so I did a video talking about that. That got quite a lot of views on Twitter. And then I also, I remember they brought up a picture in my class of a Hindu woman standing up to a member of the EDL. And I'd taken like a five second video clip. You couldn't see anyone's faces. You couldn't hear anything. I was just showing exactly what was on the screen. And yeah, that got me in a lot of trouble with my university as well. So what they said is that I broke the lecture recording policy and I put student lives in danger. By publicizing it pretty much, right? So I had an email basically telling me they were gonna instigate disciplinary procedures against me which I immediately got in touch with Neil McCrae from the workers of England, who's a brilliant man. And if any students are watching and you are looking for a good union to join, head over to Workers of England. They do a student discount, which is about 48 quid a year. And they're very helpful and very good at dealing with these kinds of situations. Now at first, over email, they were basically telling me that I wasn't allowed legal representation in the meeting. So they wanted it just to be me on my own. I'd fought against this and I said, nope, I'm going to bring someone anyway. Now, the words that we're using, by the way, and Julie, who's watching, I was kind of going back and forth with her about this. The words that we're using was, we don't normally allow legal professionals. We don't advise it. So they're not telling me I can't do it. They're saying, well, we don't suggest it, right? But they're very careful in the words that they use. So I actually attended one of these meetings with my, I managed to, I basically brought in my lawyer anyway, Neil McCrae. I am entitled to legal representation, whether they say I am or not. And so I brought him into the meeting with us and it went much better than I was expecting. They just asked me to remove the videos. Because there was another part of it as well, they said I was causing the university reputational damage. Now that's an interesting point because there's an article in Wales Online called University of Wales Trinity St David's warns that students spreading COVID misinformation could face disciplinary action. So they'd given a statement to Wales Online admitting that I studied there. No one knew I went to that university before they admitted it, so it's their fault that people know I go there. And so if they were so concerned, they wouldn't have given, a statement. They wouldn't have. That's just how it is, right? And so because they'd admitted that I went there, I thought, you know what, it's okay to do videos about my university, right, as you would rightly think. And so, you know, I did these videos not thinking I was getting into trouble. Now, I have removed the videos because unfortunately, otherwise I will be kicked, out. That's what they're saying. So it ended up being no further action, just as long as the the videos were removed. Yeah.   I mean, tell me that, because I've talked to others in uni and they basically keep their head down, keep quiet, don't want to rock the boat, think that actually the be-all and end-all of life is a degree. That's not necessarily, no, that is a part of the jigsaw, let's say that. But what do you say to others who just think actually, you know, I can't really speak on these issues, I can be an activist I can engage later on, but I just need to concentrate on these three, four years of my life. Yeah, well, it's the thing. I mean, a lot of young people, as everyone knows, you know, it's kind of the, um, it's the stereotype of university students right now. Um, that's where it's a very left wing, like you should be left wing. If you're not left wing, there's something wrong with you. That's the kind of dominated belief on a lot of universities. Right, now. The thing is that those who are socialists are those who have read Carl. No. Yeah. Those who are socialists are those who have read Marx and Lenin, right? But those who are anti-socialist are the ones who understand Marx and Lenin, right? Once you read, like for example, with Marx, right, if you read his earlier work, he was a lot more liberal than later on, right? He became far more radicalized during the later periods, right? And so, you know, Marxism is obviously world domination for historical materialism. They attach labels to you like far-right, racist, homophobic, bigots, whatever, in order to shut you up. Yeah, that's that's why they do it. But I think you'll find that there's a quite a silent majority of people who disagree with communism in universities, right? Disagree with the the left's beliefs, right? I found a lot more right wing students than I first thought I would. There's like, for example, there's quite a few Tommy Robinson supporters on my course, right? And that's not something you would expect among university campuses, right? Love it.   It is amazing to see that, right? And they loved my t-shirt as well, because I wore a black and white Unite t-shirt with all the pictures of Tommy and his black mates. So the thing is, the labels only have power if you give them power, right? Like, I couldn't care these days, right? At first, yeah, I cared. Now, I really don't. I mean, we were called far-right extremists the other day in an article from Nation Cymru, and then they used as the face of the Students Against Tyranny far-right was an old lady with a sign that says no to 15-minute cities, right? And this lady, I had a conversation with her, she was a God-fearing woman, right? And so these labels, they shouldn't bother you, right? They're just, at the end of it, at the end of the day, they're just words, right? And I think for me in particular, you know, I'm willing, as long as students, as long as what I'm saying gives students the confidence to speak up, then I'm willing to risk my future employment or whatever and so anyone who's watching who's afraid of the labels don't be don't be they're just words yeah um Marxism only works when you let these labels bother you if if you start speaking up and you you kind of ignore the labels ignore the far right nonsense right then Marxism would never work right would never thrive yeah um so yeah that's that's my advice to anyone watching   Okay, sounds good, good advice. Students Against Tyranny, you started Students Against Tyranny as a way of pushing back against the fascism, the censorship, the restrictions that we see. Tell us about what your thoughts were on starting up, because again, people can, be vocal, can speak, it does take time and energy and most people watching don't realise the work it entails building an organization from the ground up. You're not, you weren't dropped into something ready-made. You actually have to build it. So tell us about that idea first of Students Against Tyranny and then about building that up.   So it all started with Anna Brees and I know I hate the name as well, right? But she was doing a photo shoot for a website, right? Again, vaccinepassports.com. So I went down there back then, right? She wasn't as bad and as hated as she is now. And I understandably hated as well, but I'd sat down, but after the photo shoot, we were all at the pub and she, you know, I sat down with her and I did an interview in that interview. I said, what was it? If you allow the government to break the law and to violate your rights because of an emergency, what's stopping them from creating an emergency to break the law. And it went viral on Twitter, got a lot of views. I used that then to kind of launch my Twitter and a couple of days later I had the idea to start Students Against Tyranny. The main reason being is that a lot of people had kind of asked me beforehand when are the students going to start standing up, stuff like that, so I basically decided to start Students Against Tyranny. We started with a Crowdfunder which in the beginning raised a lot of money but I don't think people realize how quickly money goes, especially when you're running a campaign group. It's like everything just costs so much money and especially with the cost of living crisis as well. The main thing is the traveling, isn't it? But it started as kind of a way to connect like-minded students so they didn't feel so alone and isolated in their beliefs and opinions, especially around the vaccine as well. We were very concerned that, because a lot of friends, you know, have the belief that you should take the vaccine, if you don't, you're killing other people. And you've got parents as well in the schooling system and you had medical students. The main idea was to kind of, if they had a social group to talk to, it would stop the peer pressure and they would decide not to get the vaccine rather than to get it. So that's the main reason why it started, right? But then I look at these groups like Youth for Freedom and Freedom for Teenagers, which is another two youth groups that exist, they're already for the social aspect of things. And then you look at other groups like Stand in the Park and stuff like that, and I kind of realized there is a lot of social groups out there for anyone. So I wanted to move away from that to activism. And so I slowly made that move into activism. Yeah, we did help the medical students at the time, we managed to get our legal letters to all of them. At the time, I think we had about 400 medical students joined Students Against Tyranny just to get the legal letters, which was absolutely fantastic. So we got out there. Sorry, I've lost my point. Yeah, so we kind of moved in the direction of activism. Then we started doing events. So April 9th, 2022, I believe it was, we did an event outside the Imperial College. Now at the time this was the first liberal student rally that had been done in quite a long time, I believe, in the UK. So we managed to get about 35 students and about 15 adults to support us, which doesn't sound like a lot, but when you're dealing with left-wing students and students who are scared to speak out, it's quite a large number in proportion. So we did that event, and for a while, you know, it's pretty much just being me and a small team on our own doing this stuff until Wes came along and Wes started doing outreach. And then we got invited to a rally with Ramis and a few other people, which was a youth outreach march. It was led by the youth, which is obviously, was also led by Nazrin, Jess Felicity, Luca, Wes, you know, Monty, some great, great people. And it kind of, there's a lot of young people came along to that event, which is brilliant because it allowed us to do a lot of outreach with them. And now we've started building up, especially recently, a very large team of young student activists who want to get more involved in the freedom movement, which is exactly what's needed. When the youth start stepping up, it's over for them. It is over for them, right? And it's good as well, right, because I post a lot of pictures with young individuals, you know, Students Against Tyranny, and it gives people a lot of hope as well. When they see the youngs- you know, a lot of people have been doing protests now for the past 20 years. When they see the young start standing up, it gives them hope and it gives them a reason to get involved again, because I don't know if you've seen it as well, a lot more people have become black pilled recently, where they believe there's no point of fighting, there's no point of protesting, and there's no point of doing anything. You know, the youth are standing up and it's, we need your support as well. So, I mean, we're in Manchester recently for a student who was discriminated against for his political beliefs. John Christian, we call him. So, we're at Manchester University. Now, as soon as I got there, because I got there an hour before, which was a bad mistake, because as soon as I got there, there was about 20 people, like our supporters, who were waiting there, and then you had 250 antifa start marching down the road right so they're all shouting fascist scum off our streets um accusing me of being a member of the BNP, now now anyone now anyone who knows anything about, students against tyranny we are, and I hate using this term but we are racially diverse right we're, black and white unite you know it's culture war not a race war that's our belief right um a bit like the EDL you know it's black and white unite the at the end of the day it's it's a culture war not a race war I believe the globalists want a race war so I'll stand with of anyone, doesn't matter what skin colour you are. You know, we all bleed the same blood of patriotism. That's my belief in that. But obviously, I'm very outspoken on other issues like Islamic grooming gangs. Now, 250 Antifa come down. Police are like, right, we're going to have to bring in TSG. They have a different name for them up there. But.   And TSG is basically the riot police for those not under not from the UK or from London or wherever the TSG is, as most of us hadn't come across the TSG before Covid. Yeah, well, that's it. in it. But the Antifa arrived, they started attacking us. So they robbed, they stole one of our flags, which we ended up setting on fire. Police were just standing around biting their nails at this point. And then the TSG arrive and they form them. It took them a while, by the way, after TSG arrives, they need to start planning and everything or whatever. It takes them about 20 minutes after they arrive to actually form a line. So they form a line. And by the way, I've been promised before this that they were going to move Antifa into a different section. So they form a line in front of Antifa and they're like you haven't got enough supporters yet. Now, they formed a line, right? By the way, because obviously we got there at 12. This is only half 12. The event doesn't start until one, right? So you've got a lot of people who won't be there until 1 to 1.30. That's when people start arriving in mass, usually. So police have formed a massive line. They're like, right, you haven't got enough support, so we're going to move them back a meter. And that's it. We're going to keep you in the corner, shoved into a corner, and you've got a meter. So then you've got people, right? Because I had loads of messages about this. We've got people who've travelled all the way down from Scotland who can't get through the police lines because police not letting them, which was just absolutely ridiculous. Now we're like, right, we're just going to have to start the event anyway. We're not scared, you know, we're not scared of Antifa. Now they're like, it's funny because there was a guy who was threatening to stab us and that same guy was like, why are you here? Why are you here? Give your speech, give your speech. And loads of other people will get like, give your speech, give your speech. And then as soon as we start giving our speech, they're booing us really loudly, playing loud music, drumming, which has just proven our point. We're there because of free speech. They're there counter-processing free speech, shutting down free speech, and they still think they're the good people in all of this. It's just absolutely astonishing to me. So I was, by the way, we have, so we have a lot of, alter cants where we watch all of these antifa lot, right? We, we, we very, we keep a very close eye on all of them. And we've seen tweets where they're talking about militant antifascism, because I'm talking about our event, right? And there was a teacher from Manchester university. It was like militant, and I agree with all of you, but I don't think militant antifascism is the way. And they're like, yeah, it is. It is right. There was a massive debate about it. So they're admitting that theirs is a militant organization, right? Now they use threats, violence to intimidate and suppress political opponents. That is the definition of terrorism. Antifa are terrorists. There's no doubt about it. Antifa are a terrorist organization and they need to be shut down. Now we're not scared of Antifa. They can set my flag on fire. They can come after me all they want, right? I will be back in Manchester on the 3rd of June at 1pm, 188 Oxford Road. I'll be there again. I'm not up there to have a massive fight with Antifa, but anyone who's watching, if you can come, please come. We need your support, right? If there's enough of us, Antifa will get moved into a different section, right? And we need enough of us so we can talk to the wider public, we can have our voices heard by the university rather than shut down by the tyrannical Antifa. So, if you can be there, please do, 3rd of June in Manchester, thank you. Well, let's, so you've got two events, so let's do one by one and kind of why these are important. So, the one coming up, what most, just next month actually, is on 15-Minute Cities, and that's in Swansea. So, tell us about that first. Yes, so I'm really looking forward to this one because last Monday we had 40 people out for outreach on a Monday. Now that's pretty good numbers for a Monday. Just for handing out leaflets. So that was absolutely fantastic. Now that day we'd made the news twice. So there was one article in the morning, far-right extremists plan to gather in Swansea. Yeah. And it was mainly a hit piece on banners and bridges, which I'm very proud of them because it's the first time getting in the news. I do a lot of work with them. It's run by Sasha. You can find them on Telegram if anyone's interested. They run a lot of regional groups across the UK. And then there was a second article which came out after the event actually happened, and it was Police Attend Far-Right Extremist Outreach March, or whatever. And now that was very cleverly worded, right, because police attend all events, doesn't mean there was any fights or anything, or we were violent or whatever. The reason they attended was because Stand Up To Racism will be counter-protesting us on the 7th, right? All be counter-protesting us on the actual protest day. And so they were there to make sure, well to keep the peace or facilitate it, it's their favorite word now, to facilitate a peaceful protest and make sure that Antifa or Stand Up To Racism didn't turn up to counter-protest us. So yeah, it was very cleverly worded and that's exactly where they used the picture of the elderly woman holding a sign that said no to 50-minute cities as the face of the far right, which I found really interesting. Now there's going to be a lot of Students Against Tyranny coming as well, we've got a few Welsh ones who are going to be coming and you've got some traveling all the way down from England to just support us because there's rumours of Swansea Online attending with a film crew which I'm really excited over because you know I'm quite hopeful of this. The thing is with Covid and with vaccine and stuff like that we had a lot of people telling us to f off doing the middle finger, arguing with us constantly. With this, people care more. And the reason people care more is because it hits them directly in their pocket. This is a war on motorists and the majority of the world's a motorist. Well, not the majority of the world, but the majority of the UK and the US and all of that are motorists, right? They'll drive a car. So they'll, It will affect them and they'll care about it. Now stand up to racism have been leafleting about this in Swansea. And they, and in their video, they did it with Stan, right? They didn't recognize which is funny because they're leafleting about Stan as well. So Stan's having a conversation with them and they're like, oh, so 15 minutes a day is a great idea, right? It's everything located within 50 minutes. And Stan's like, well, won't they fine you for leaving your zone? And they're like, no, no, that's a conspiracy theory. But then you look at Oxford and what they've done in Oxford. So what they've done in Oxford, right? It's not just you can't leave your zone. So you can leave your zone for up to a hundred days a year, right? Free of charge. Now, after those 100 days, you will have to pay £25 a day that you're driving. Now, that's if you live in Oxford. If you don't live in Oxford, you have to pay 75 quid a day. Just to drive around. You pay road tax. Why are you having to pay this? Now, I hate this argument that, it's like the smoking ban in pubs. It's not like the smoking ban in pubs. It's like saying, you can't smoke unless you pay me, and then you can smoke. That's exactly what it's like, right? All this ULEZ stuff, but it's not just about money. It's not just about money. They have money. What it's about is it's making driving a luxury for the rich and too expensive for the poor, or hindering your ability to travel. That's what it is about. It's about control, yeah? And so we're going out now with a team within the next couple of weeks to leaflet and leaflet and leaflet and raise awareness of this and get people there. It's gonna be a big, big demonstration. We've got some great guest speakers. We've got Paul Burgess, who's a climate realist. He runs a channel, Climate Realism with Paul Burgess. He worked for Welsh Water for nine years and has been developing a mathematical model of climate change for the past 30 years. We've also got Ben Walker, who's the chairman of UKIP. We've got Debbie Hicks, who's from Keep It Cash. You've got myself, and we've got a few more that we're working on getting. So it's gonna be a big day. I'm looking forward to it. If you are Welsh, come support us. It's gonna be great. Well, obviously we've watched Oxford and what they're doing there. We obviously, all around London is the, not only the ULEZ, but LTN, so Low Traffic Neighbourhoods Restricted Off. I think Haringey wants to have 90% of their roads cut off. And of course, you're right, it is a war on, it is a war on the working class because I know people who they have a vehicle, if they drive their vehicle to their home, they'll be charged. And yet the price of a new car is out of reach of most people. And then you're looking at second hand, but most people don't have the ability to sell off something that's maybe only worth maybe 2,000, 3,000, and then you're paying three times that at least for any second-hand car. So it is punishment. At least you don't have Sadiq Khan telling you what to do. Well, you're absolutely right, because on the 27th now in Cardiff, the council's actually meeting to discuss a congestion charge, a ULEZ zone, all of this stuff, right? Now, the congestion charge is a rather interesting one because we don't get much traffic in Cardiff other than rush hour. So I don't know what they're on about there, But they've got a meeting on the 27th at 2pm at City Hall, so I'm going to be outside obviously. To discuss bringing this in. It is just a war on motorists. They want us to use public transports, right? But especially in Wales, and I know London's exactly the same, it's not reliable. It's absolutely not reliable. I mean, we have the funding to fix it, but what we spend on rainbows on a bloody road, because that's going to make a difference. It's absolutely ridiculous. And people are buying this as well. The fact people are buying this, I am ashamed to call myself Welsh. We were known for fighting and getting out there. But after COVID, if you saw that, the amount of people who were just brain dead sheep, it's vile. It absolutely is. And I'm assuming, although it doesn't really matter much difference, because there isn't really much right and left in any of these issues, but I'm assuming, not having looked for a while at that make up of the Welsh Assembly. I'm assuming it's Labour and then Plaid Cymru who have the majority.   Yeah, that's right. Wow, so you're not gonna get any sense out of any of them. So, Plaid Cymru for those outside is the Welsh Nationalist Party, who is as dumb and awful as the SNP, the Scottish Nationalist Party. The best way to describe them is they want independence, but they want us to re-join the EU. So, that's just coming. Sorry, my bad, I got them confused then. This is stupidity, so tell us, so you've got the event, talk to us about the event in June and then I wanna talk more about, a little bit about discrimination, which people face in university, just having some common sense views, but tell us what was the event in June you talked about? So it is a really, really long story, this is. I haven't got it all off the top of my head, but I can give you a piece. We've got all night, James, don't worry.   I can definitely give you a brief rundown of what happened. So, if anyone does want to view the full story, it is on urbanscoop.news, how Manchester University conspired against a non-woke student. If you want to give that a read, the full story of exactly what happened is in there, because it is a very, very long story. Now, the best way to describe it, right, is pre-2016, universities were a place of free speech. They were. Now, when Trump, with the Trump presidential election and with Brexit and all of this, something started to happen to university campuses, right? There was a massive shift in the way the administration handled things, right? All of a sudden, it wasn't okay to have voted Brexit. That's the kind of mentality, right? So they kind of clamped down on free speech a whole lot more. Now, John, so John Christie and the student in question here, he'd basically, he was in university pre-2016. After 2016 he got accepted into a PhD program. So yeah, now he'd gone to a seminar event with about 250 research professors, students and faculty. Now in this seminar, a student unbeknownst to John had announced to the class that he'd voted to leave the European Union. Now all of these students then started debating and he was up for it, he loves to debate, that's exactly what universities were pre-2016 and so he was debating a lot of the students on that. Now after this he'd noticed that a lot more people would invite him to the pub and stuff like that and they'd have a debate with him. Now what he didn't realize, and the full story as I said is on UrbanScoop, now what he didn't realize until much later is that that's what they were trying to do, it's trying to find something they could be offended over so they could go to the university and report him for offending them and making them feel uncomfortable. Right? So he'd constantly, by the way, get pulled in to a disciplinary as someone had been offended over what he'd said and he'd get into trouble, whether that be suspended isolation, whatever, right? But he'd constantly have to go through disciplinary meetings and this went on for ages, right? Now, without further explaining that, again, the full story is on UrbanScoop. If anyone remembers the Irish abortion referendum, I think it was 2019, I'm not too sure on that one. Someone had actually come into his office and there was a group of them who came to his office celebrating over the results of the Irish abortion referendum. So what this did is it legalized abortion, right? That's what it did, right? So it legalized abortion in Ireland and he'd asked them to leave because they were making him feel uncomfortable, basically using the tactics that they were using and what he said was is that he wants to debate this topic but he knows if he does then he's going to get pulled into a disciplinary, right? And so what had happened was he'd asked them to leave, they left and then they'd reported him again but this time they, and he was pulled, sorry, he was pulled into a disciplinary and what they said is that even though he'd followed all the rules that he still made students feel uncomfortable by not celebrating with them and so he was in trouble again. Now the story is absolutely mad but eventually what's happened was he was basically, they refused to assess his thesis after five years of studying for it, right, he doesn't get a refund, no sorry he does get a refund, he was on a scholarship program but after five years of studying for his PhD, which is a long time to waste if you're not going to get your qualification, they refused to assess it and it's an absolutely mad story. So the ultimate reason of that was he's actually, if everyone remembers in 2018, It was to do with, no. I can't remember what year exactly it was, but there was a year to do with BLM. BLM was very big in the mainstream news. He'd actually written to his university president and had basically said that they shouldn't be backing BLM because BLM is a Marxist organization and Antifa, they've been causing riots and stuff like that. And so the concern is they could say there were too many books in the library that are written by white people and not enough black people and so they could burn down the library. At the time that was a genuine concern and so then he got pulled into a meeting for threatening to burn down the library which he never did. Listen it's a massive story and I've got to memorize it to talk about it fully but if anyone does want to read it it's on ubanscoop.news so yeah.   Yeah make sure and check out and if anyone is not subscribed I'm sure any of our viewers will be, but make sure and subscribe to urbanscoop.news and you can get all of that great content, more and more content going up there regularly, so it is all available there. Just on kind of looking at universities, because my worry is that if students keep quiet until they get through, then they'll be so indoctrinated that they will come out, they may go in with the good intentions of holding on to common sense views and beliefs. But at the end of it they will be fully indoctrinated because they haven't learned how to push back and have absorbed those. You're obviously taking a stand. You're becoming more and more public in all different ways. So I guess what you're doing is laying down a line and saying this is really how you can be a student, hold on to your beliefs, get your education, actually you can have it all, it is possible. Yeah, this is the thing right, I've got friends who are now in university, now before they went into university they were straight normal people, they've come now, I've seen a massive transformation, they're now got pink hair, identifies as a they-them, you know still trying to figure out their bloody gender, and it's not just my friends, you know, you look at, there's a hundred thousand transgender people in the UK. It's a huge problem. Now, I do a course in my university on film and TV. Do you want to know the stuff I've learned? So, in one lesson, I remember I learned about anti-Trump views, anti-capitalist views. I learned about climate change. Now, when we're given coursework and stuff like that, the topics we are given are very left-wing topics. I don't want to say right-wing, I'll come at them from a very liberal standpoint, but they are very left-wing topics that, yes, do need to be discussed, but the concern is, say in Manchester or Imperial College or Cambridge, if you come, like if you do what I do and come at the coursework from a liberal standpoint, you are going to be punished, and that is evident from the John Christian story. So the thing is, every student who is watching this now, you can have your beliefs, right? They may punish you or whatever, but what's the point in spending four years pretending you're something you're not. I thought that's what the entire trans movement is about in the first place isn't it? It's pretending you're something you're not, which that isn't the case at all. You're pretending to be the opposite sex. But you shouldn't have to worry about what other people think. And we are trying to bring free speech back to universities. I've made some great plans and I do want to give a big shout out to Kate Shimirani who's done some fantastic work and is working with us now on doing some Billboard Chris style videos, you can have your beliefs right, there is a support, there are support groups out there, we are growing every single day. You know, there are more people who want to get involved with Students Against Tyranny and what we're building, so if you are watching, please, please, please get involved and listen, parents out there as well, if your kid wants to go to university, my suggestion is look for the ones that are very highly ranked in regards to free speech and not so much in academic ability right, I mean yeah Cambridge University is considered one of the tops but at the end of the day it's just a piece of paper. It is just a piece of paper. Send them to a university where they're not going to get indoctrinated with all this communist, Marxist, Lenin, Trotsky bullcrap because that's exactly what it is. Send them to university that is much better in terms of free speech and isn't so indoctrinated because it's getting bad. Like you know when... See the thing is with this campus debates campaign we've launched which is our free speech campaign, We've been trying to get into universities to debate students, we've been trying to get university societies to work with us. Now the university societies that do have free speech, no, that do have debate in societies like Edinburgh for example, which got famous for the What is a Woman documentary counter-protest that happened, right? We'd actually reached out to universities like that asking if we can come there to debate students. They were like, no, you're too extreme. That's their view when it comes to us. We're not that extreme, right? About 20 years ago, we would have been marked liberal to moderately left. Do you get what I mean? And now we're far right, but the far left are just normal left, which is something I've never understood. So you've got Edinburgh University and all of of them doing, you know, not allowing us to come there because we're too extreme. And then you look, at universities like Bradford, for example, no right-wing societies at all. No conservative society, no free speech society, no debating society. Do you know what they do have though? They have an Afghanistan society, they have an Islam society, they have an LGBT society, they have all of these very left-wing. But where's the support groups for the right-wing ones? Well, no, you're right. And, I mean, just talk to someone like Andy Ngo and he'll tell you how caring and friendly any Antifa group is. They actually they no longer present. It's weird because these organizations no longer present themselves to be, to be moderate or fair. They are so aggressive. So in your face, they are so overwhelmed, I guess, with hate that there is no, there's no façade anymore. It's all there for everyone to see. Yeah. And this is the thing as well. I mean, a lot of them, because I love, I absolutely love debating a lot of these students. So I do it to a lot of my friends as well. And I don't really have them as friends anymore, but that's not the point. Right. Um, so I remember getting into a debate before about capitalism, right. And they're, they're basically saying that, um, the reason that communism would work well, the reason that communism hasn't worked so far is because it's capitalism, communism, and, um, it needs to be socialist communism in order for it to work. That's their main argument, but every time it starts off as socialism, we're always ends up as capitalist communism, so I've no idea what they're on about. Now they use the UK today as an example that capitalism doesn't work. Now, this is the thing, we don't live in capitalism, right? We don't. We live in corporatism, right? Where companies are more worried about social justice and equality, right? That's corporatism, that's not capitalism. We don't live in a capitalist society. We live in corporatism and we are heading towards a communist dystopia. That's the direction we're going in. Listen, I love debating that topic and there's another big one that I love doing, that's gender. Gender is one of my favorite topics to discuss because it's so sad. We're going to end up with, well, we are ending up with a generation of young, sterile men. Who in seven to 10 years will commit suicide. It's very upsetting to see that happen, especially a lot of the friends I grew up with heading down that direction, mutilating themselves, because they think it's helping them. The thing is, and I know a lot of people disagree with me on this, I don't think the blame is necessarily on transsexuals. I believe the blame is on the people around them. Because we've admitted, as the Gender Recognition Act 2004 says, this is a mental illness. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness that is recognized by the medical community, right? And instead of getting the real help they need, whether that be therapy sessions, whatever, we are instead feeding into their delusions a bit like saying to a schizophrenic, schizophrenic person that yeah everything they believe is happening to them is happening to them right, it's not healthy for them it isn't right and so we need to well that's my main concern is what we're doing to young men and what we're allowing to happen and all of these doctors who are willingly mutilating young men you know carving meat out of their legs to create a prop that doesn't work because it doesn't, it doesn't, it's just a sack of meat. You know, I, I interviewed someone called Richie for Voice of Wales, um, who's de-transitioned, right? 30 years old, he made the decision. He was 30. He was offered it in his first therapy session, majorly regret it, right? Now he's told me he can, he has a very low sex drive. He's depressed. He cannot have, he cannot, let's just, say have fun during sex. It's really messed him up. And that's one of my, I'm very passionate about this topic. So again if any students are watching or if anyone clips this, push this to Twitter. Just find us on Twitter, you see the... Username below and on Telegram Students Against Tyranny Official. Invite me to your university, man. Have a debate with me. I'm willing to debate anyone on any topic. So yeah, see you there. Completely. And I agree with you, just to finish, I agree with you that my issue is not with the crazy activists, but it's with the government who've let this happen. It's with the Tavistock Clinic. It's with those doctors who mutilated children, sexually abused children, and will get away with it and we'll start working whatever the next clinic the government starts and no one is actually punished for that great evil. I'll just say to the viewers and listeners, if you are a university student and do want James, contact him directly, but by all means feel free to drop us info@heartsofoak.org and we'll certainly pass anything on to James. He has a great knowledge, he is passionate, he knows the issues, so why not bring him along. What could go wrong? What could go wrong? Maybe someone might actually hear some truth for once in a university setting, it'd be great.   Well, Antifa has pushed us in the direction now, so we can't even announce where we're going to be. Like with Wes, he was doing the outreach, right? I remember he went to Scotland to do some outreach, and then he was met with Antifa, counter-protesting him there. So it's really difficult to get anything done. So now it's kind of pushed us now in the direction of not announcing where we're going to be or what we're going to do, which ends up working out in in our favour anyway. So listen, if you are a student once it gets there, you can do it. You can do it anonymously like, you know, send us an email. Everything you say stays between us and you can get us into your university without putting the name to it. So, yeah, just let us know. Thank you. Sounds good, James. Thank you for coming on. Love what you're doing with Students Against Tyranny, love how you're getting out and getting the message out. So thank you for coming on and sharing with us here at Hearts of Oak. I really appreciate it, Peter.   Not all. Make sure the viewers and listeners follow the links in the description, or just jump on James' Twitter handle and follow everything there. You can keep an eye on those events coming up. All the information, all the details will be on his Twitter account, so make use of that. And just goodbye to all our viewers. Enjoy the rest of your Monday. We'll be back with you on Thursday, looking at the WHO. Michele Bachmann's back with us again and discussing an issue that she is passionately concerned about, which is WHO and their impact on all of us, and the World Health Assembly meeting coming up in Geneva next month. And she unpacks some of what we will be facing from that. So on that, I have a good night to everyone. And for those listening, Podbean app or any podcasting app, thank you for listening on on the go and we'll be back with you on Thursday. So thank you and good night to you all.

My 41-minute weekly contribution on The Exceptional Conservative Show with Host and CEO of The Exceptional Conservative Network Mr. Kenneth McClenton. Each Thursday after 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern we take on a variety of topics. Our business is cutting through the media nonsense to bring you the truth--and business is GOOD.These guest appearances will alternate with UBG on EDL shows and other UBG programming on this page.Catch The Exceptional Conservative Show Monday Through Friday at 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern and enjoy the other great programs available for FREE viewing on The Exceptional Conservative Network;https://theexceptionalconservativeshow.com/Be sure to subscribe to The Unpleasant Blind Guy page here at Spreaker and to The Exceptional Conservative Show page on Rumble at;https://rumble.com/c/c-562417Prepare and share NOW (while there is time) for the NEXT American Republic;https://www.spreaker.com/user/6646611/ubg092317-the-way-backFREE .MP3 download of this week's segment available at;https://app.box.com/s/eh8pf5w25tb6rhwe3j45jnn66rac6nnv

My 41-minute weekly contribution on The Exceptional Conservative Show with Host and CEO of The Exceptional Conservative Network Mr. Kenneth McClenton. Each Thursday after 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern we take on a variety of topics. Our business is cutting through the media nonsense to bring you the truth--and business is GOOD.These guest appearances will alternate with UBG on EDL shows and other UBG programming on this page.Catch The Exceptional Conservative Show Monday Through Friday at 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern and enjoy the other great programs available for FREE viewing on The Exceptional Conservative Network;https://theexceptionalconservativeshow.com/Be sure to subscribe to The Unpleasant Blind Guy page here at Spreaker and to The Exceptional Conservative Show page on Rumble at;https://rumble.com/c/c-562417Prepare and share NOW (while there is time) for the NEXT American Republic;https://www.spreaker.com/user/6646611/ubg092317-the-way-backFREE .MP3 download of this week's segment available at;https://app.box.com/s/eh8pf5w25tb6rhwe3j45jnn66rac6nnv

My 41-minute weekly contribution on The Exceptional Conservative Show with Host and CEO of The Exceptional Conservative Network Mr. Kenneth McClenton. Each Thursday after 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern we take on a variety of topics. Our business is cutting through the media nonsense to bring you the truth--and business is GOOD.These guest appearances will alternate with UBG on EDL shows and other UBG programming on this page.Catch The Exceptional Conservative Show Monday Through Friday at 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern and enjoy the other great programs available for FREE viewing on The Exceptional Conservative Network;https://theexceptionalconservativeshow.com/Be sure to subscribe to The Unpleasant Blind Guy page here at Spreaker and to The Exceptional Conservative Show page on Rumble at;https://rumble.com/c/c-562417Prepare and share NOW (while there is time) for the NEXT American Republic;https://www.spreaker.com/user/6646611/ubg092317-the-way-backFREE .MP3 download of this week's segment available at;https://app.box.com/s/eh8pf5w25tb6rhwe3j45jnn66rac6nnv

My 41-minute weekly contribution on The Exceptional Conservative Show with Host and CEO of The Exceptional Conservative Network Mr. Kenneth McClenton. Each Thursday after 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern we take on a variety of topics. Our business is cutting through the media nonsense to bring you the truth--and business is GOOD.These guest appearances will alternate with UBG on EDL shows and other UBG programming on this page.Catch The Exceptional Conservative Show Monday Through Friday at 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern and enjoy the other great programs available for FREE viewing on The Exceptional Conservative Network;https://theexceptionalconservativeshow.com/Be sure to subscribe to The Unpleasant Blind Guy page here at Spreaker and to The Exceptional Conservative Show page on Rumble at;https://rumble.com/c/c-562417Prepare and share NOW (while there is time) for the NEXT American Republic;https://www.spreaker.com/user/6646611/ubg092317-the-way-backFREE .MP3 download of this week's segment available at;https://app.box.com/s/eh8pf5w25tb6rhwe3j45jnn66rac6nnv

My 41-minute weekly contribution on The Exceptional Conservative Show with Host and CEO of The Exceptional Conservative Network Mr. Kenneth McClenton. Each Thursday after 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern we take on a variety of topics. Our business is cutting through the media nonsense to bring you the truth--and business is GOOD.These guest appearances will alternate with UBG on EDL shows and other UBG programming on this page.Catch The Exceptional Conservative Show Monday Through Friday at 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern and enjoy the other great programs available for FREE viewing on The Exceptional Conservative Network;https://theexceptionalconservativeshow.com/Be sure to subscribe to The Unpleasant Blind Guy page here at Spreaker and to The Exceptional Conservative Show page on Rumble at;https://rumble.com/c/c-562417Prepare and share NOW (while there is time) for the NEXT American Republic;https://www.spreaker.com/user/6646611/ubg092317-the-way-backFREE .MP3 download of this week's segment available at;https://app.box.com/s/eh8pf5w25tb6rhwe3j45jnn66rac6nnv

My 41-minute weekly contribution on The Exceptional Conservative Show with Host and CEO of The Exceptional Conservative Network Mr. Kenneth McClenton. Each Thursday after 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern we take on a variety of topics. Our business is cutting through the media nonsense to bring you the truth--and business is GOOD.These guest appearances will alternate with UBG on EDL shows and other UBG programming on this page.Catch The Exceptional Conservative Show Monday Through Friday at 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern and enjoy the other great programs available for FREE viewing on The Exceptional Conservative Network;https://theexceptionalconservativeshow.com/Be sure to subscribe to The Unpleasant Blind Guy page here at Spreaker and to The Exceptional Conservative Show page on Rumble at;https://rumble.com/c/c-562417Prepare and share NOW (while there is time) for the NEXT American Republic;https://www.spreaker.com/user/6646611/ubg092317-the-way-backFREE .MP3 download of this week's segment available at;https://app.box.com/s/eh8pf5w25tb6rhwe3j45jnn66rac6nnv

My 23-minute weekly contribution on The Exceptional Conservative Show with Host and CEO of The Exceptional Conservative Network Mr. Kenneth McClenton. Each Thursday after 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern we take on a variety of topics. Our business is cutting through the media nonsense to bring you the truth--and business is GOOD.These guest appearances will alternate with UBG on EDL shows and other UBG programming on this page.Catch The Exceptional Conservative Show Monday Through Friday at 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern and enjoy the other great programs available for FREE viewing on The Exceptional Conservative Network;https://theexceptionalconservativeshow.com/Be sure to subscribe to The Unpleasant Blind Guy page here at Spreaker and to The Exceptional Conservative Show page on Rumble at;https://rumble.com/c/c-562417Prepare and share NOW (while there is time) for the NEXT American Republic;https://www.spreaker.com/user/6646611/ubg092317-the-way-backFREE .MP3 download of this week's segment available at;https://app.box.com/s/3nfny627tlgcxjnnnk93qgu30bn0ix51

In this episode we talk to Mickey Moran. Mickey is a member of Éirígí and is the party's representative for the midlands. He has been politically involved since his late teens, initially in activism in Limerick and Cork with animal rights, anti-war, anti-fascist and anti-globalisation campaigns. Moving to London in 2008, he was involved with the anti-fascist movement and then joined the Revolutionary Communist Group (RCG). He subsequently joined Éirígí and returned to Ireland where he has been active with the party since. We discuss Mickey's background and the left political scene in Limerick and Cork in the early 2000s; experiencing the European anti-fascist movement when playing gigs with a punk band in various countries; working with anti-fascists in London and countering the EDL; joining the RCG and what drew him to party organising; joining Éirígí and the politics and campaigns the party focuses on; and how Republicanism informs his politics. This interview was recorded in November 2022.

My 23-minute weekly contribution on The Exceptional Conservative Show with Host and CEO of The Exceptional Conservative Network Mr. Kenneth McClenton. Each Thursday after 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern we take on a variety of topics. Our business is cutting through the media nonsense to bring you the truth--and business is GOOD.These guest appearances will alternate with UBG on EDL shows and other UBG programming on this page.Catch The Exceptional Conservative Show Monday Through Friday at 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern and enjoy the other great programs available for FREE viewing on The Exceptional Conservative Network;https://theexceptionalconservativeshow.com/Be sure to subscribe to The Unpleasant Blind Guy page here at Spreaker and to The Exceptional Conservative Show page on Rumble at;https://rumble.com/c/c-562417Prepare and share NOW (while there is time) for the NEXT American Republic;https://www.spreaker.com/user/6646611/ubg092317-the-way-backFREE .MP3 download of this week's segment available at;https://app.box.com/s/3nfny627tlgcxjnnnk93qgu30bn0ix51

My 23-minute weekly contribution on The Exceptional Conservative Show with Host and CEO of The Exceptional Conservative Network Mr. Kenneth McClenton. Each Thursday after 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern we take on a variety of topics. Our business is cutting through the media nonsense to bring you the truth--and business is GOOD.These guest appearances will alternate with UBG on EDL shows and other UBG programming on this page.Catch The Exceptional Conservative Show Monday Through Friday at 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern and enjoy the other great programs available for FREE viewing on The Exceptional Conservative Network;https://theexceptionalconservativeshow.com/Be sure to subscribe to The Unpleasant Blind Guy page here at Spreaker and to The Exceptional Conservative Show page on Rumble at;https://rumble.com/c/c-562417Prepare and share NOW (while there is time) for the NEXT American Republic;https://www.spreaker.com/user/6646611/ubg092317-the-way-backFREE .MP3 download of this week's segment available at;https://app.box.com/s/3nfny627tlgcxjnnnk93qgu30bn0ix51

My 23-minute weekly contribution on The Exceptional Conservative Show with Host and CEO of The Exceptional Conservative Network Mr. Kenneth McClenton. Each Thursday after 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern we take on a variety of topics. Our business is cutting through the media nonsense to bring you the truth--and business is GOOD.These guest appearances will alternate with UBG on EDL shows and other UBG programming on this page.Catch The Exceptional Conservative Show Monday Through Friday at 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern and enjoy the other great programs available for FREE viewing on The Exceptional Conservative Network;https://theexceptionalconservativeshow.com/Be sure to subscribe to The Unpleasant Blind Guy page here at Spreaker and to The Exceptional Conservative Show page on Rumble at;https://rumble.com/c/c-562417Prepare and share NOW (while there is time) for the NEXT American Republic;https://www.spreaker.com/user/6646611/ubg092317-the-way-backFREE .MP3 download of this week's segment available at;https://app.box.com/s/3nfny627tlgcxjnnnk93qgu30bn0ix51

A new research paper was published in Aging (listed as "Aging (Albany NY)" by MEDLINE/PubMed and "Aging-US" by Web of Science) Volume 15, Issue 2, entitled, “Body weight influences musculoskeletal adaptation to long-term voluntary wheel running during aging in female mice.” Aging increases the prevalence of sarcopenia and osteoporosis that are often both components of a musculoskeletal syndrome, osteosarcopenia. Osteosarcopenia is highly associated with frailty, falls, fractures, and disability, leading to decreased quality of life and increased morbidity and mortality. Frailty is the hallmark of aging that can be delayed with exercise. In this new research paper, researchers Yukiko Kitase, Julian A. Vallejo, Sarah L. Dallas, Yixia Xie, Mark Dallas, LeAnn Tiede-Lewis, David Moore, Anthony Meljanac, Corrine Kumar, Carrie Zhao, Jennifer Rosser, Marco Brotto, Mark L. Johnson, Ziyue Liu, Michael J. Wacker, and Lynda Bonewald from Indiana University, University of Missouri and University of Texas wrote that the present studies were initiated based on the hypothesis that long-term voluntary wheel running (VWR) in female mice from 12 to 18 or 22 months of age would have beneficial effects on the musculoskeletal system. “Frequently osteoporosis and sarcopenia occur concurrently. It is not known if one precedes the other or if one condition influences disease progression of the other condition [26, 27]. We hypothesized that long-term voluntary exercise started later in life (12 months of age) would improve both skeletal muscle and bone parameters in aging female mice up to 22 months.” Mice were separated into high (HBW) and low (LBW) body weight based on final body weights upon termination of experiments. Bone marrow fat was significantly higher in HBW than LBW under sedentary conditions, but not with VWR. HBW was more protective for soleus size and function than LBW under sedentary conditions, however VWR increased soleus size and function regardless of body weight. VWR plus HBW was more protective against muscle loss with aging. Similar effects of VWR plus HBW were observed with the extensor digitorum longus, EDL, however, LBW with VWR was beneficial in improving EDL fatigue resistance in 18 mo mice and was more beneficial with regards to muscle production of bone protective factors. VWR plus HBW maintained bone in aged animals. In summary, HBW had a more beneficial effect on muscle and bone with aging especially in combination with exercise. These effects were independent of bone marrow fat, suggesting that intrinsic musculoskeletal adaptions were responsible for these beneficial effects.” “Collectively, VWR has beneficial effects on bone health during advanced aging regardless of body weight, but VWR differentially alters bone parameters depending on body weight, with modifications in mechanical properties in LBW but structural modifications in HBW contributing to the prevention of osteopenia.” Full Paper: DOI: https://doi.org/10.18632/aging.204390 Corresponding Authors: Lynda Bonewald -bonewal@iu.edu, Michael J. Wacker - wackerm@umkc.edu About Aging-US Launched in 2009, Aging-US publishes papers of general interest and biological significance in all fields of aging research and age-related diseases, including cancer—and now, with a special focus on COVID-19 vulnerability as an age-dependent syndrome. Topics in Aging-US go beyond traditional gerontology, including, but not limited to, cellular and molecular biology, human age-related diseases, pathology in model organisms, signal transduction pathways (e.g., p53, sirtuins, and PI-3K/AKT/mTOR, among others), and approaches to modulating these signaling pathways. Website - https://www.Aging-US.com SoundCloud - https://soundcloud.com/Aging-Us Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/AgingUS/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/AgingJrnl Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/agingjrnl/ YouTube - https://youtube.com/Aging-US LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/aging/

My 23-minute weekly contribution on The Exceptional Conservative Show with Host and CEO of The Exceptional Conservative Network Mr. Kenneth McClenton. Each Thursday after 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern we take on a variety of topics. Our business is cutting through the media nonsense to bring you the truth--and business is GOOD.These guest appearances will alternate with UBG on EDL shows and other UBG programming on this page.Catch The Exceptional Conservative Show Monday Through Friday at 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern and enjoy the other great programs available for FREE viewing on The Exceptional Conservative Network;https://theexceptionalconservativeshow.com/Be sure to subscribe to The Unpleasant Blind Guy page here at Spreaker and to The Exceptional Conservative Show page on Rumble at;https://rumble.com/c/c-562417Prepare and share NOW (while there is time) for the NEXT American Republic;https://www.spreaker.com/user/6646611/ubg092317-the-way-backFREE .MP3 download of this week's segment available at;https://app.box.com/s/3nfny627tlgcxjnnnk93qgu30bn0ix51

My 23-minute weekly contribution on The Exceptional Conservative Show with Host and CEO of The Exceptional Conservative Network Mr. Kenneth McClenton. Each Thursday after 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern we take on a variety of topics. Our business is cutting through the media nonsense to bring you the truth--and business is GOOD.These guest appearances will alternate with UBG on EDL shows and other UBG programming on this page.Catch The Exceptional Conservative Show Monday Through Friday at 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern and enjoy the other great programs available for FREE viewing on The Exceptional Conservative Network;https://theexceptionalconservativeshow.com/Be sure to subscribe to The Unpleasant Blind Guy page here at Spreaker and to The Exceptional Conservative Show page on Rumble at;https://rumble.com/c/c-562417Prepare and share NOW (while there is time) for the NEXT American Republic;https://www.spreaker.com/user/6646611/ubg092317-the-way-backFREE .MP3 download of this week's segment available at;https://app.box.com/s/3nfny627tlgcxjnnnk93qgu30bn0ix51

My 23-minute weekly contribution on The Exceptional Conservative Show with Host and CEO of The Exceptional Conservative Network Mr. Kenneth McClenton. Each Thursday after 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern we take on a variety of topics. Our business is cutting through the media nonsense to bring you the truth--and business is GOOD.These guest appearances will alternate with UBG on EDL shows and other UBG programming on this page.Catch The Exceptional Conservative Show Monday Through Friday at 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern and enjoy the other great programs available for FREE viewing on The Exceptional Conservative Network;https://theexceptionalconservativeshow.com/Be sure to subscribe to The Unpleasant Blind Guy page here at Spreaker and to The Exceptional Conservative Show page on Rumble at;https://rumble.com/c/c-562417Prepare and share NOW (while there is time) for the NEXT American Republic;https://www.spreaker.com/user/6646611/ubg092317-the-way-backFREE .MP3 download of this week's segment available at;https://app.box.com/s/oky2s7ltqq10b1ykigj5bhen299qh650

An AMA to celebrate reaching episode 10. I offer my thoughts on: Conspiracy, the EDL, my musical career, morality, raising children, cryptocurrency and of course, various questions on paganism.Visit fyrgen.com (https://fyrgen.com/) for links, information and an archive of past episodes.

Special Guest Phoebe J Rose joins this episode of Beyond Barriers Podcast. Phoebe is a transgendered female and was also part of the EDL (English Defense League) for about 5yrs. Phoebe left the EDL back in 2020 and now strives to educate and to bring others together. Her mission now: Peace & Reconciliation.For media inquiries: info@beyondbarriersusa.orgFor more information on Beyond Barriers: https://beyondbarriersusa.org Follow Jeff Schoep on Twitter: @SchoepJeffFollow Acacia Dietz on Twitter: @SilencedMedia Beyond Barriers on Telegram https://t.me/beyondbarriersusa1 https://t.me/beyondbarriersusa Instagram https://www.instagram.com/BeyondBarriersUSA Twitter https://twitter.com/_BeyondBarriers #BeyondBarriersPodcast is produced by Beyond Barriers Media in association with Underground Media Productions. All Rights Reserved Beyond Barriers & Underground Media Productions

Our “Innovation Conversations” series continues with Allen Chen, the Mars 2020 Entry, Descent, and Landing (EDL) Lead at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. Sterne Kessler Director Trey Powers interviewed Allen about several aspects of the Perseverance mission, including: the mechanics of EDL and testing the equipment; sky crane technology; building on past missions to devise the EDL process; and groundbreaking innovations developed by his team.

NASA has released the video taken from Mars Perseverance's EDL (Entry-Descent-Landing) cameras. There's some great pictures, but also stories behind how these EDL video cameras came to be. Subscribe for more videos: http://youtube.com/nathankontny?sub_confirmation=1What is this channel? A daily morning show that's hopefully a little motivating, educational and distracting. :)http://halfcafshow.comCan I help with anything? nate.kontny+youtube@gmail.com

Hey, welcome. Thanks for hanging out with us. This is the it and the D show. We are broadcasting live from our homes and from the bar. Um, this is Bob, the sales guy, Dave, the geek, uh, Randy, I do the Twitters is doing the Twitters, uh, guests this week include, we got the Mikey from the old shillelagh downtown, and we got August in the house, old friend from whiskey in the jar and Hamtramck. We’re going to be talking about life behind the bar, and now that things are slowly opening up. And then also we’ve got a ton of stories going on. We’ve got his big boys gone forever. We’re running out of pennies and Dave, you may fire when ready? Wait, wait. I don’t think we can get started until I get some shredded cheese for my fajitas. Oh, good Lord.       Alright, go ahead, Bob. Hey, welcome. What is going on? This is the it and the d show. Can we still call it the it in the d show, we got to rename it. And at some point, Judy, Bob did, I’ve been, I’ve been lobbying for two and a half geeks for four years now. Can you still be Dave? I don’t know. We’ll figure that out later. This is episode three 54. We are broadcasting live from either our quarantine homes or the bars in one of them in Hamtramck. This is Bob, the sales guy that is Dave. The geek Randy. I do the Twitters is doing the Twitter. You can find us online at [inaudible] dot com. Give us a like on the socials and subscribe to us everywhere. Fine podcasts are sold. We, uh, and again, we’ve talked about this before. Uh, we are, uh, Lee, we’re leaving events out, uh, until August, no pun intended. Uh, and we’ll, we’ll be bringing them back then. We’ll do something outside and yeah. So that’s, that’s the update there. So yeah. Hey, just like we just introduced earlier, we have two illustrious guests, friends of ours for very, very long time. Both of them bartenders, we kind of want to do, uh, discuss, um, what life was like a behind the bar. We, we, you know, a few of us have been to the bar, but, uh, joining us is, uh, Mikey from the old Shalala downtown Detroit, sir. How have you been, haven’t seen you in awhile? Uh, I’ve been well, man, uh, just getting used to this non quarantine stuff and living the life and working, uh, dealing with all of the wonderful public. And then now this is a, it’s actually a first for the show. We’ve been doing this for what? Seven years. We haven’t had anyone ever calling live from the bar. August gets legs in the house. I mean, we’ve, we’ve done live broadcasts from bars, but we got August in the house. He is actually tending bar right now at whiskey and a jar down in Hamtramck, sir. How you doing? You’re on mute bud August. I’m actually not working tonight, but I figured it’d be fun to come here and show you just exactly what we’re looking at These days at afar in Hamtramck. Uh, ms. Katie is pretty much by herself with a few people outside, a couple of regulars. And that’s about the state of the world down here. Yeah. So odd. I’ll start things off with you like life behind the bar. Like, so I started trickling into a few bars. I live out everyone, you know, I live on Rochester Hills, Auburn Hills, um, the bars out here pretty much business as usual. Um, a couple of them took out a couple of tables. Most of them like the open air ones in Rochester Hills are still the same. Dave was telling stories about going to, uh, with down a Cass corridor. They haven’t set up like a, like a seven mile gas station with a plastic barricades and little, little windows. So some people are taking it to huge extreme, some people aren’t, I guess what’s your take on, I guess, the new normal behind the bar? Well, it really depends on where you are. Like I went up to a bar in McComb County last week. I walked in and right walked right the hell out. Any place where you can buy beer by the bucket seems to not be following any protocols. There was no hand sanitizer around the same amount of bar stools. They might have tables. They don’t mind everyday. You come down here. Everyone’s pretty much following the rules. I walked into a place downtown, half the bar, stools, half the tables. It’s all about your local enforcement. And I understand that different areas, the city feel different political views about what’s going on, but behind the bar, it’s very bartender driven. We take the bar stools away and then by, you know, one 30 in the morning, there’s a few of them have found their way back up to the bar and just kind of deal with your friends and try to keep them, you know, the wear their masks when they’re ordering. So Katie Palona Sera is working, does not tolerate that. She’s only tolerating it because it’s me. I guess that was the, this reminds me a lot of when smoking got banned originally, there was, there was a hard line. There was not any, Oh, I’ll just lay it up. No one on mine. No, it was, it was, there was no middle. It was, it was off. Right. You’re you’re going to go outside and you’re going to smoke with this. It seems like there’s this weird yet? Depends on the bar. I was like, well, yeah. I mean, well, and let’s be real with the smoking thing. It really kind of dependent on where you were. Um, you know, a lot of the bars on the East side, you know, put the tip jar out and just said, Hey, throw some cash in. So if they come in and find us, we got it covered. Oh Jesus. Yeah. I kind of remember those days. It’s still a bar down here. It still exists. So I guess Mikey bringing you in old [inaudible] it’s one of the, uh, you know, I would say top 10 oldest bars in Detroit, at least from, from my standpoint, it’s one of the, one of the mainstays, um, I guess what’s life like behind the bar by you are obviously things are different, but like, Well, and keep in mind, Shalala closed literally right before st. Patrick’s day, which, you know what, you know, that, that kind of like bank rolls your year. Yeah. St. Patrick’s day and opening day. Yeah. That’s huge chunk for us. Um, bartenders are basically, uh, turned into cocktail servers right now. Uh, we’re taking care of all of the tables and stuff. Uh, we, it wasn’t until this weekend we allowed people to come to the bar, but there’s like, we set up four tables, uh, going long ways. So not out to the bar, just like connect to the bar. So people still can’t pass those tables to order. Um, they have to stand at one of those tables and you can congregate four or five people tops there and you have to stay at that table. And or when you’re at any other table, you have to be at those tables. We actually have a really good friends in the park, right guys, the guys that own the parking lot behind us, we’ve been dealing with the Aubrey’s for years. Like ever since, you know, my dad was working downtown and stuff. And so they are, uh, being very nice and generous and letting us finagle and see how, what works for us as far as extending our outside patio into a, the parking lot to therefore put more tables and get better business in. But it’s the same, it’s the same thing, man. People are going to do what people are going to do. And the fact that people have to be told four or five times to put their mask on when they’re walking around, uh, people have to be told that, look, I get it. There’s a DJ here, but the PJ’s here so it can provide different sounds. So we’re not just listening to Pandora, a full song. That could be a good, a good vibe going on. But So we’re not listening to Bob and Dave take over the jukebox. Yeah. But there’s still no dance. Right, right. Worse than both of us combined. True. That’s true. I get very there’s you guys look, man, I’m pretty sure the T and it stands for touched. That’s what it is. It’s it’s a MIT in the D that’s. Yeah. It’s the AMI Am. I Just wrote, Mike wrote our Alma mater Kudos to you, sir. That’s what I do. Um, but yeah, so people are like, you know, doing the dance floor thing and it’s like, the DJ literally stopped and said, Hey, move. There’s like eight feet here. And for some reason, 10 of you want to crowd into it to start dancing. When we don’t have a dance floor, he has stopped it. He put, he has put on Miley Cyrus, uh, to cause that no one dances to Miley Cyrus. Right. Um, Randy does, Randy doesn’t even do. Randy’s like, okay, wrecking ball. Got it. Got go In. The USA is not terrible. Is here. Welcome to episode three 54 beat on Randy. That’s going to be the title of visit. That’s nothing bad for him. I didn’t, I didn’t say off. I said on, I was thinking, but yeah. So people were still coming up to the bar. We had to say, get back six feet. We’re not going to serve you. We’re apparently the problem because we’re enforcing rules. Uh, you know, we have to be like, we’re not the governor. We didn’t set these rules up. We just have to follow them. Uh, you know, I, I commend what, uh, the Shalala has done. You know, even the health departments come in and said, didn’t have to tell us to move anything. They just were like, just put a couple more signs up. You know what I’m saying? So add a little bit more six feet, add a little bit more of this. Um, but it doesn’t matter what we do because the customers are just doing whatever they want to do. And it’s impacting us, which is a problem. Like not the business, but like the staff, like we stay away from. Right. Like I, yes, I’ve had COVID-19 but nobody knows specifically what happens anymore. Right. I could still get it again. There’s reports now saying that the immunities, the antibodies don’t last very long. It lasts a couple months. Well, guess what I had at st. Patrick’s day that’s two or three months, these antibodies aren’t protecting, I’m not guaranteeing, they’re protecting me from anything. I just, just help people out, man. But they don’t care. And because they don’t care, you’ve seen things like in the temple bar, in Detroit, which, I mean, they shouldn’t have been doing that anyway. A Mexican Fiesta out in Dearborn just went back down to, uh, only carry out orders because they’re like, you guys are acting like assholes to our staff. And while we’re the cleanliness of everything is a priority. Now the safety of our staff has to be a top priority. So we’re going to have to say, get away. And Mexican Fiesta is amazing. August, August. I wanted to bring in on that too. Like that’s the one thing I keep hearing is people being bundles and it’s like, yeah, I get it. You’ve been cropped up. Yeah. I get it. You’re excited about being out what it’s like, you should be so excited about coming out, like, okay, what do you need me to do to be out cool. I got it. I’m done. Like when I’ve gone out, I’ve made sure I’ve followed the, you don’t follow whatever the guidelines are, the place you’re going to. It’s not that hard friend Michelle’s still is not comfortable eating indoors or being indoors at a bar at all. We had reservations for eight o’clock on Friday, down at the Monarch to sit outside and she canceled them because it was supposed to rain and she wasn’t gonna eat it inside. I get it. Everyone has their different comfort levels. But then look at what happened in East Lansing. One clown shows up at Harper’s 62 people get sick and now 30 people and girls point all tied to the same spot. The number was 85. Yeah. Cause they all went back to a bonfire afterwards and hung out yet. Yeah. And now it just hit the news that, uh, fifth Avenue and we’re alone, three people that tested positive were in there, you know, on the 19th of June. So any surprised, So, yeah, so here’s my question. And this is actually one of the stories that I shot across for us to yak about, but I haven’t you guys here. Uh, so Imperial, uh, in Ferndale, uh, said they shut down, uh, because they got an anonymous phone call from someone, uh, that said they were in the restaurant a couple of days earlier and they were COVID positive. So like, is that the new, like one star Yelp review slash swatting where like, even if that’s not true, you call a place and say that, and you know, you’re basically shutting them down. Like you are shutting them down and forcing them to go through a deep, clean, and being a major inconvenient pain in the ass That, that joke has already run through all the sports talk radio about how these different teams are going to suddenly try to open up and play sports again. And the anonymous calls it. So and so really tested positive and they’re baking. It is going to shut down basketball or baseball or football, shut down a bar As bartenders. Are you both kicking out people who aren’t complying with rules or, Um, I have not had a problem where someone completely refused or didn’t have a mask with them. Uh, there’s always, someone will walk in off the patio without it. That guy will be like, dude. Oh, okay. And they’ll throw it back on. Uh, and I’ve not had that confrontation that I am dreading. Cause I know what’s coming next. I mean, I’m not gonna lie. I went to that’s by my house and it’s the middle of suburbia, not one person who had one on. Yeah. That’s what I noticed in McComb County, the servers and the staff had them, the customers gave them. No, no. Yeah. We’re the same way. Uh we’ve actually, we have boxes of masks. So if you don’t have a mask, when you come to the bar to come in, we’ll provide you with mat. I mean, if it’s like a group of like 10 people were eventually just be like, no, because obviously you haven’t had a mask this entire time, but we’re not, you know, if one or two people or like a dude’s mask broke while he was walking through the entrance and we gave him another mask, but it’s not so much that people are refusing to comply. It’s it’s like, again, it’s like you’re telling a five-year-old four or five times to do the exact same thing, you know? And, and that’s, and that’s the problem is I sh I’m not telling a four year, five year olds do the same thing, four or five times, I’m telling a 35 year old the same thing to do four or five times innovation. You gotta realize that it’s not just about you and your, this business could be, could take a, hit. The staff could take a hit. I mean, and look, the first weekend I was back, people were assholes and I’m talking about money-wise like, which is crazy to me. But the second and third week that I was back, people were amazing. Right. They shouldn’t have been loaded when they came back, man. Like you would think so. Right. But again, let’s not pretend like everyone’s gotten their unemployment check. So, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s a weird dynamic. I appreciate I’m the same way I was his girlfriend, same thing, same way. I don’t feel comfortable going out that much. Uh, I’ve gone, uh, eaten in downtown Royal Oak and I sat on a patio. Uh, I’ve walked around a couple places, you know, and that’s, that’s about it, man. Like I haven’t even, I went out the first night the bars were, uh, the Shalala was open and I really only went out to look and see what I was walking into on a scouting run. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I was like, then a friend was like, Hey, I’m down, down at pappies we’re sitting on the patio, come on out. And I was like, well, if you’re on the petty, you know, and, and, and that’s what it is. There’s a comfort level to everyone. And just because you, uh, your source of information tells you that whatever you’re doing is not necessary, that’s fine. And I’m not saying that you’re wrong for that. What I’m saying is you’re wrong for selling someone or making someone else feel like their source of information is wrong. So they have to follow your way. And I w what’s the worst that can happen. That you, when you wear a mask, do you find out you were right anyway, but you wore masking, made someone else feel comfortable. What’s the best that can happen. You find out you’re wrong and you help protect people. Correct? You were, you were mildly inconvenienced for a review, Right, man. And I’ve said it from the beginning to the end of this thing, when it was announced that in stores, private businesses have a no shirt, no shoes, no service, all of them. Now they’re saying no, no mass, no service. That’s not taken away. Your rights, man, that business has all the right in the world to tell you, you can’t be a Patriot. If you don’t wear a mask, get over it. So many people don’t realize that these are private businesses. They are not mandated to serve you under any circumstances. Like, I don’t know how that slipped by a lot of people. Um, I guess I’ll open up the floor to both of you guys, but I got a curious thing, like, let’s say this whole thing, poops the bed and it shuts down again. Um, how many of these bars can survive this thing? Because I know a lot of them run shoe strings right now. A lot of them are hanging on by the, you know, think other landlords aren’t being dicks type of scenarios. But I mean, if this thing shuts down again for like three months, how many of these restaurants and bars are, or actually going to be able to come back and whether this There’s plenty of ours, I’m going to jump real quick. And they just said, we’re not going to deal with here. Couple of the customers coming from the patio. So they’re ordering right now behind me, but Susie’s bar. They don’t have any staff that’ll work and they just take it off their loans and a ride it out. And I expect to see, I think we’re going to shut down again. I think we’re going to take one more hit for like two weeks. Yes. Yeah. I’m going to say I’m in the same boat. I honestly think that, uh, our governor without playing politics, I think our governor has done well. Perfect. Hell no. Has she done things to play politics and maybe get a VP? Not sure, but that’s her job. My job as a bartender is to work you, to get the best tip out of you, right? Anyone who does their job correctly knows ways to make it so they can make better money for anything else. That’s what you have to do in your job. I know I have to do, I have to tell Karen, she’s a great book, great person, right? Because I know Karen will finally give me 15% finally. Right. But Karen’s a piece of crap, but I can make her feel like she’s amazing. So the bottom line is I feel that they are, the government has, the governor has done well, not perfect. Well, and There was no way, Mikey. There’s no way you were going to ever make everyone happy. Okay? Exactly. This is in Madison. Which way you went. This is the unknown, right? I am not, I can’t be mad at you for doing, taking extremes when you didn’t know what was coming. So my thought process on this is just like August. I think every, I think it’s going to shut down for two weeks, but I’m hoping she does slap on the wrist style. We’re going to pull back bars, any place. That’s just mainly alcohol. We’re going to shut them down for two weeks and keep restaurants at 50% capacity. We’ll see what it looks like. Because I feel if she goes hard as tries to do extreme again, then she might start losing some of her base supporters. So I think she’s gonna take the EAs way. So the season we’re in it’s summertime, this was a little bit easier to pull off when it was still cold out, you know, February, March. I mean, that was doable. If she was a half to try to start to shut it down now in a place like Michigan, like Texas people are hiding inside. Anyways, there’s 110 degrees outside, Florida. This is our outside season. It’s gonna be really tough, especially if she does it statewide and not by zones again. Cause you know, a whole bunch of people are going to be flooding saga top and plugging Trevor city and flooding Mackinaw city and Marquette drink. If she does it, there’s no easy right way to do it. Right. It has to be, you know, state the state region, the region, there are flooding up North. They flood up North as it is. I mean, I’m not even sure about regions Right on 75, try to come a Sunday, six, o’clock go look at 75 coming back home. Yeah. It’s people who live there. They have their houses. They’re not the renters and the hotel people. Cause I know folks that are, they can get a room at saga talk with 24 hours notice right now that’s insane for July and Jimmy Vegas pricing. They’re pretty much given rooms away for a dollar just to get your ass down here. Yeah. But what’s it going to go on to Saugatuck if you’re not on the beach and the bar isn’t open. Yeah, no doubt. Exactly. Well, and that’s, you know, I, I was talking with Fred earlier today, Fred Brown. He shot me like his latest PowerPoint deck and all that stuff. And, and he, he kind of lines up with what you were just saying that, I mean, the reality is like this Harper story is pretty much the tip of the iceberg. We’re going to see a lot of bad news hit over the next two weeks. Um, now here’s, let me, let me ask you a question. I don’t know if you know Dave or if the guys know like how do they know that? Cause it takes like what two weeks to get tested, right. Or to test positive for it. How do they know that, uh, that all emanated from a single bar? Like to me, I read that. How did that, you set a protocol questions, you have to answer For people who test positive, they trace you and everywhere you’ve been and everything you’ve been doing, it’s it’s a thing. Yeah. So like, so, so it was that it was basically one guy who already was sick and wasn’t feeling well. And the day after all this nonsense went and got himself checked out into it. Oh yep. COVID where were you? Um, and then contact Tracy Chino trace back, started taking a look at those people. Yup. And it, you know, and it’s funny, the, the w the one, like really kind of concerning stat that, that Fred throughout, when we react, when we were chatting earlier was of, they did, they just did some like anonymous statistics and 75% of people that went to a hospital or an ER, or an urgent care for non COVID things. Like they went because they fell and broke their arm, or they had a gunshot wound and went to the ER, that kind of stuff, 75% of the people that were checked in tested positive for COVID. Um, and so like, so that’s that hidden asymptomatic population yet again, the reason why you should be wearing your damn mask, even if you, you know, even if you think you feel fine, Right? Yeah. That’s it just put your mask on me, whether everything was right or not. Sorry, just again, same thing I was gonna say earlier, like what you believe or not give a shit about other people, that’s all it is. Who cares? Just be nice. Yeah. I was one of the lucky ones that got to go through the secretary of state. Um, and that was a, yeah, I know. There’s like somewhat outside. They don’t really ask you if you have symptoms, they just ask you what your name is. Like. I was kind of shocked that they would not have like the, the temperature gun. Cause that is not very hard to do. Um, they just really go, what’s your name? Cool. Like you had a mask on, they let you in, and then you left. It was like, it was, it was kind of bizarre. Actually. They didn’t have more precautions in place The problem with the temperature gun. And this is because I think I talked about this on one of their shows either last week or the week before is they’re not very accurate. Um, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s almost kind of like the facial recognition system software, where if you’re white, uh, you, you tend to like, it, it tends to be pretty accurate. Um, but anybody, any people of color, it, it tends to be a lot further. Yeah. I never heard that before. That’s crazy. Well, I mean, it it’s just a thing. Um, and so it’s, you know, it, it, it, it can be, and you know, and the thing, you know, you may be asymptomatic and not have a fever. You might have a fever because you have a cold, you might have a fever, you know, for a number of reasons, not related to COVID. So, I mean, it’s, you know, but it’s a, it’s a PR move more than anything else to at least take that step. All I know is there’s somebody at Amazon right now, wondering why there’s a run on a, do not enter pool. If you have diarrhea signs. Cause we put one at our community pool and it’s caused an absolute uproar. No one realizes that like every water park in America has a don’t enter the water park if you have diarrhea signs. So she put them up at the bar, the questionnaire at city hall every day. And I always checked off, but I had just for fun, you know, the, the thermometers, you shoot the infrared guns. Good to know, you know what the, you know, what the difference is. Right. You know what the differences August the taste, the taste. Yeah. Nice. And that like, like the ones I picked up for the studios, they actually have different settings. Like you can, you can tell it, you’re taking a, um, a skin temp, a zone temp or room temp. Uh, you know, like, so I mean, it’s, they’re decent, but I mean, you know, the, like the more I looked into them, like I said, I mean, it’s, they’re only so accurate and only for so many different scenarios. So You guys know if you guys noticed an uptick, I don’t know if you guys monitor your Yelp pages or whatever. Have you noticed any people leaving like shit reviews? Cause they made us, we’re a mess bar. Like what have you guys noticed an uptick in those? I haven’t even looked. I mean, I’ve, I’ve seen them. I’ve seen people calling them out on Facebook. Like a lot of Facebook, like people like, and people are calling out people that are leaving those reviews. That’s what I’ve seen is, you know, screw you for leaving the, you know, for leaving them a negative review because they said you had to wear a mask and that kind of stuff. Here’s the thing. I’m like, I’m as you know, like, I don’t wanna say noncompliant, but I’m about as is like leave me alone type of person who is government wise. But when I go to the, if you go to the grocery store, I couldn’t imagine if someone told me in their business, like put a mask on and I’ll be like, Oh my God, I’m so sorry. Like that would be my first inclination not be like, screw you. I hate videos. And this just blowing my mind. How people can think like that what’s that August give us a decent human being. Believe it or not. Yeah. No, but like, would you, I couldn’t imagine like, yeah, like getting yelling at anyone in like in, if it’s their house, like, which is, I consider any businesses that are house, you got house rules. Take my shoes off at the door. Sure. Okay. I’ll take my shoes off at the door. Yeah, No, don’t worry about it. You know, like, Oh, through your house, I’m going to have barbecue down the street. FYC. I’ll go out and find, I’ll go have diarrhea in somebody else’s pool. Just don’t have it at whiskey in the jar, man. I had to grow up either. Once it was a worst day of my life. They’re really, really clean and sterile now though. Oh, I bet we’re spending that time at the bar in Monroe you’re ever going to do in Hamtramck is whiskey right now. I was like, yeah, it can’t be any worse than that. Dive bar in Monroe, Bob. It can’t, it can’t Now what’s the percentage. The percentage like, w I know you guys always kept a clean bar, both of you, but like, what’s the percentage now that you have to clean versus what is it? Double, triple what you had to do in the past, as far as wiping things down, it’s a lot more, as far as picking up garbage, significantly less because less crowded. Well, yeah, Most people aren’t throwing their stuff around. Yeah. And it’s the exact same way. Just being cognizant of their surroundings type of things. Right. Instead of wiping down the shelving under the pier bottle, under the liquor bottles and everything a couple of times a week now you’re doing it every shift. But granted, the way they’re working for us is we’re only open Friday and Saturday and they have a, they have a Sasha Friday and a staff for Saturday. So even though that we’re dealing with all of this, we can still get the underemployment because we’re not working. The hours are making the money that we did. So we can still claim the underemployment to get that extra 600 a week. That’s how they’re working it out for us, which I think is amazing. That’s great for you guys. Now, what about a draft beer? You guys just doing plastic cups? Are people shying away from it? Plastic cups. That’s all we offer all plastic plastic. We basically, every day is st. Patrick safer everything plastic. Right? Well, it’s, I mean, and that’s the thing. I mean, like, I guess how is, how is the general tone of the businesses now without the big parties, without the big events, without that kind of stuff going on? Like, is, is it, you know, Hey, we’re all we’re going to just see how this goes and roll with it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there’s nothing else to do. We know we didn’t have our big fundraiser in March. We don’t see the August date for the bag of guy party as viable. We just don’t see one that’s going to work. And you miss you guys, ms. Pouncy day, you guys missed Punchy day was the last big event that I, yeah, that was the last one. Yeah. With your wife, Bob. Yeah, that was, yeah. That was really like the only big thing of 2020 that actually went well. Yeah. Cause you figured out, cause I remember the tigers opening day. I remember tigers opening day paying off people’s bars. I bought places downtown, like back in the day, like talking about that. Yeah. And like, I remember Shalala, I think Mike, you were telling me, well, that one day is kind of the year. Yeah. St Pat’s and opening day, man. They take care of us. I’m wondering what their, if it actually happens, uh, in less than a month, what it’s going to be like, cause obviously they can’t have fans, but that’s not going to stop people from coming down and tailgating like they do. But again, if everything’s still in the restrictive state, what’s, you know what I’m saying? It changes a lot of things. So other than, uh, I mean, other than the obvious where I’m asking you to come in, um, tip, well, um, you know, don’t, uh, don’t, you know, group dance. What, uh, any other recommendations, things that no one’s thought about, you know, tips, tricks. We keep hand sanitizer all over the place, but we do appreciate what people have their own. It’s a visual for kind of everybody to feel a little bit better. I carried some with me everywhere. I’m going. I get it. Um, other than that, I mean, people have been over tipping on my shifts. I’ve been fortunate. Uh, thank you, Dave. Um, I try to make sure I have all my own stuff specifically. So my girlfriend and let me come back over because it shows that I’m being responsible and I need to, and I want to support the bars right here in my neighborhood that are three blocks from my house and only have six people in them, which is easy to feel safe in and easy to control your surroundings. But that’s not what everybody else is doing. You never know. So take care of yourself and just assume the bar isn’t, even though we are Well, that’s the thing like with my neighborhood bar. Yeah. It was all neighbors, but I haven’t, I don’t know what they’ve been doing all spring right at their plate. You know what I mean? Cause like, yeah, it was like a reunion. I, Hey, you know, and then the hardest part was I had to go to a funeral this weekend where everybody’s, everybody’s hugging everyone And that was, it was, you know, I kind of threw all the rules out and we’re kind of holding our breath now going, Oh, you know, I’m sure we all will be okay. You know what I’m saying? Yeah. We’re the same way, man. Uh, just, you know where your mask, when you come in, if you have your own stuff, that’s fine. And that’s great. You know, we really appreciate it. Cause obviously we’re, we’re spending all the money to make sure that we can be open under the guidelines for what we have to deal with, you know? And that’s like, I don’t under, I just wish that people would just come in with a better attitude. Like thank you for being open rather than finally you’re open. I can do what I want here. No that’s going to happen where you’re at. And you’ve got a much more transient non-regular crowd than I do. And it’s a different world and you know what, let me be very honest. It’s 10 30 beyond PM. As soon as 10:30 PM hits until 2:00 AM. You know, that’s when the majority of the crap starts everyone in the earlier Wait, cause everybody’s had a few drinks. They’re a little more, a little loosened up a little more forgetful. A little more. Yeah. Yeah. So that’s, and it sucks, but you know, just don’t make it seem like I’m the bad guy for having to ask you to do what I have to ask you to do, you know, it’s like, everyone’s the drunk girl who wants to take her shoe, their shoes off right now. You dirty bastard. Stop anyone Shoes off anywhere. How about that? I’m not going to stop them. Yeah. I’m sure you wouldn’t. Yeah. Alright. Well, so yeah, there you go. Yeah. Take your shirt. I’ve used it as a mask. Perfect. Um, alright, so, Hey, I guess we’ll let you guys get back to it. So where do we find you when you’re not at whiskey in the, we’ll get a jar. I’m the Hamtramck city clerk underwater buried in absentee ballots right now. Um, but I’m not actually back behind the bar for two weeks. Mike and I are split it up Mikey Smith, who I work with and take the July off. And uh, but I’m here at Hampton whiskey Hamtramck and at city hall. And you need me? Yeah. For what it’s worth. Uh, Michelle just joined the watch party. If you wanted to refer to her as your girlfriend again, to get some brownie points and then Mikey, where do we, where do we find you, Man, if you don’t find me on Saturdays right now, the old shalala.com and you’re a fan of professional wrestling, you can check me on a breaking down the ring podcast, breaking down the ring.com at BDR cast for all of our social media. As you can check us, check me out there every Sunday at 11:00 AM. I haven’t been in a guest in a long time. Like you what’s going on. Hey man, we haven’t had a single person in studio in a long time, either. Good point. I can, I can shoot you the zoom link. If you, anytime you want to join. I mean, I’m not going to play that game. Do you know where to find me? I do. All right. Well cool. Thanks guys. Enjoy the rest of your night. We’re going to hang and bullshit about some other stuff. Hey, thanks for having us guys. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Appreciate it guys. Do you guys be good? Um, I need to start off with it with the thing that’s that’s ruined my entire day. Oh, good Lord. That I’ve been I’ve literally had to, um, share it with everyone I’ve ever known. It’s um, this video. Oh the, the, the golfer, This was, that was live on PGA TV guy rips a huge three or three wood and then cuts a sheet ripper for about 10 seconds. And then they comment about it. The one guy, and then, then this is the best part. The guy gets on TMZ and all this stuff. He starts making fart jokes, talking about that’s the way to social distance. If you’re going to fart on national TV, like that’s how you own it. Like this guy, like literally everyone today at every meeting I ever like, did you hear about the golf guy that farted? And they’re like, what are you like, literally you gotta be the dumbest person. So like literally I’ve been playing this thing. Then the one guy he’s like, aren’t they supposed to be more silent than that. It’s just a beautiful, and then the guy goes, did you get that? He’s like the other guy go stay over there. And he goes, aren’t those supposed to be more silent? So like the guys are walking down the fairway anyway, commenting on. Anyway. Um, I had to, I had to share that cause that’s been my entire day today. Um, I guess my like the stunning news and information for the day, there’s a coin shortage. I don’t know what’s going on. Like apparently everyone’s been saying, um, the, the self checkout lines at Myra have gone cashless. Um there’s yeah. There’s there’s basically, um, I don’t know. How do you get a coin shortage? Did I, that I saw a couple of posts from like, you know, stores on Facebook that really, I saw one from a seven 11. That was like, Hey, you bring us rolled coins and we’ll give you not only the cash back, but you can get a free Slurpee. Like apparently like they’re like, they’re that desperate to get coins, like, which is weird. The announcement never came out. The banks never came out. Usually like there’s something like that you would think would be prefaced over the next course of the next three months, by the way we are bubble, blah. Um, you know, and they’re calling it a national coin shortage. So it was like, you know, the conspiracy peoples, the tinfoil hats are lightning. Oh goodness. I can’t even imagine. Yeah. Although they want to make us cashless, you know, however, you know, I don’t think like, hang on whatever, right, Dude, I’ve been in favor. At least I have been in favor of abolish the penny since the nineties. Like I just like, I’m all in favor of that. Like that they make no sense to me. Yeah. Um, who carries them? No one cares. Here’s the thing. No one carries them around. No one uses them as tender. They are just, they’re basically little kids banks that sit there for 30 years. Then they cash them out for $14 when they turn 20 Or 21 when they’re looking for beer money. Yeah. Right. But yeah. No, I didn’t, I didn’t realize that was such a thing, but yeah, there were stories about Meyer. I’m going completely cashless. They were, you know, cause he had, they had to, um, they couldn’t dispense coins or like some places were saying like even cashiers are just rounding stuff up or rounding stuff down to make it to the nearest dollar. You see? I always like, you know, when you learned about like cash and coin circulation, it’s like, they always, um, when they go to the bank, they think the old money they shred it, then they put a new money where there’s always like this constant flow. And, but no one ever said like the, like during all this COBIT stuff where the mince closed, like where they still lose production. Well, I guess a, it wouldn’t surprise me if they had to shut the mins down. Uh, just because, I mean like everything else, they had their own issues. Um, but I mean, I guess it might be just a matter of it disrupted the natural supply chain. I mean, just like, you know, grocery stores have a hard time getting ahold of things. If people aren’t coming into the stores and using change and then using, you know, they’re, they’re not, you know, and banks were shut down and not, I mean it, I can see why it’s an issue. It’s just, I guess it’s just something, it’s one of those things I never thought about. Yeah. People aren’t using them. So there aren’t them having them at stores to give back. I mean, you think about it. I mean, you know, like, you know, they weren’t taking returnables for the longest time I wear all those, like Coinstar machine shut down. I, you know, cause I would assume that would be one of the places where they were getting their change in coinage and all that kind of stuff. Oh, I just know they’re in the stores. I can’t tell you the last time I went to one Last time I used one, I got an Amazon gift card. So that was yeah. Cause it’s so charged. Yeah. Oh it’s only change only a charge if you get cash back out of it. So what have you guys been watching this week? I, uh, I caught a pretty sweet movie last night. I was, uh, I never heard of it and I was like shocked. It was, you never heard, you never heard of this one? Well, no, no, no. The movie though, I’m talking about dr. Sleep. Like you, you never saw the ads for it or anything. I never saw a thing. I didn’t know what existed. So I’m watching this movie and the little boys got this, like seventies bolt cut. I’m paying no mind. And he’s talking to this, the black guy that looks like the guy from the shining Hong Kong phooey guy. And then he’s talking to his mom, Shelly Duvall. And I’m like, what? In the blue health shining movie is this like Google it it’s the SQL Bob. Yeah. The book’s been out for awhile. That was the movie. Yeah. I honestly had no idea. This thing existed. I just like, Oh, I read the preview and it didn’t say anything. It said the shine, but it didn’t say anything about the shining site. I thought it was something different. What did you watch it on HBO last night? Oh, you know, um, I thought it was great by the way, they did a great job with it. The shining is, um, one of the weirdest movies in the history of humanity, uh, mr. Kubrick, um, this thing like didn’t explain it kind of explained what all the, what the kids’ premonitions were in the first one. And then I gave a good background to it. I dunno. Um, again, the OB one thing is kind of a said, what did he say? The same line is star Wars. And it threw me off for a half an hour. He’s like something like, Oh, that’s these, aren’t the droids you’re looking for say that it can only mean one thing invasion. He did like a Obi wan Kenobi line in this movie that completely threw me off. Like, I don’t know if they snuck that in there or, or what, but yeah, no great flick. I would highly recommend it. I watched a Padma Lakshmi’s taste the nation. It’s a series on Hulu. I saw it. Yeah. I saw that was there. I added it to my watch list. I haven’t, I haven’t started watching it. Episode is like a different immigrant group and their, um, their impact on food in America. Uh, or they did one with, uh, native American cultures because you know, they’re also cultures, but they’re here and not an immigrant group. So, and that actually, that’s, that’s a funny tie in. So I’ll also on Hulu. I’ve been obsessed with hate die neighbor, um, which is, uh, it’s a stent, there’s two seasons of it. So far, it’s a standup comic from London, uh, who basically goes mostly all around the United States, but he also goes to like London, um, and the Ukraine and a couple other places and hangs out with hate groups, uh, for a week or two and he’s biracial, he’s half white, half black. Uh, and, and, and so like, but it’s funny because as he’s arguing with these white supremacists or, you know, whoever else he’s like, you know, if it weren’t for immigrants, the food here Would really suck. Just so you know, like at some point in time during each episode that comes up. But it’s interesting because like he, like, so he goes to like, he hangs out with like honest to God Nazis. Uh, he hangs out with white supremacists. He hangs out with, uh, the EDL in London, which is trying to kick all of the Muslims out of England. Um, he hangs out with, uh, as the Azov folks in Ukraine, um, he hangs out with, uh, the black Israelites, uh, that are like way, way, way black supremacists. Um, it’s I mean, and it’s, it’s just a, it’s fascinating that there are that many different hate groups out there that he, and he goes all over. And so like, like in one episode he starts hanging out with this one, um, uh, what do they call a national socialist it’s it’s not Nazi their, their national socialism. Um, and he hangs out with this one guy in Pennsylvania, um, who then says, Hey, but I can arrange an invite for you to this thing down in, uh, Kentucky or Mississippi. And so he goes down and so like the guy in Pennsylvania, and it sounds stupid. Like he, like, he just hates Jews. Like he Only hates Jewish people and he’s not really overt about it. Um, he, he, he just hates Jewish people, but then he refers him down to these guys down in Mississippi and they’re straight up Nazis. Like it’s, it’s a swastika burning thing that they call the lightning. Uh it’s, you know, they’re all wearing armbands with sweat, like, and it’s like, it, it’s just, it’s insane and intense and you don’t do it. It’s very real. It’s, it’s very, very, um, it is. And like I said, it’s, it’s interesting because there are some people that he makes some headway with and there are some people cause like, and, and so the last, like couple minutes of every episode is him sitting down with them after and going, okay, look, this is why I think you’re full of shit. Um, or, you know, here’s where, you know, here’s why I think, you know, whatever. Uh, and it’s, it’s interesting, like, cause I guess, you know, he, you know, the guys in Mississippi, he was just like, you guys are just straight up assholes. Like it is what it is. And they’re like, and he’s sitting in the car and he’s talking with this guy and that the original guy back in Pennsylvania and, and they, and they had actually gotten to be like kind of friends. And the guy had told him that he like that like the, the lady he was with that had all of his little like socialists spawn with, um, was his second wife and his first wife was Indian and they had two kids. And so he starts like, and so the, the comics starts making, you know, starts questioning him on well, don’t you realize that you’re basically espousing a group that hates your children because they’re, and he was and like, and that like really, like, it’s almost like the first time the guy ever heard that before or thought of that before. Um, and so, I mean, it’s, like I said, it’s, it’s Testing to see It’s American history, X the series, basically. But like, but like I said, you know, but some of the international flavor is really interesting. Like the, I just watched one where he to, um, he went to pride in Israel, uh, but hung out with, uh, the guy who is the most like, like basically leads a little terrorist group against gay people, um, in Israel. Uh, and, and, and it’s funny because like he bounces back and forth, like, so we would hang out with that guy for awhile. And like at one point he’s hanging with them at the end, cause like, he goes with them, like when they go to do their demonstrations and that kind of stuff. Um, and then like, like he does like the cutaway to the camera and he’s like, look, I know I’m doing this for like the show and everything. Um, and he’s like, Hey, thanks Mike. Cause it’s a, it’s a vice series. He’s like, Hey, thanks, vice we’re paying for the trip and everything. Um, but I’m going to go hang with the pride crew cause they’re having a lot more fun and then like the camera crew would follow with them for awhile and he would, and so that’s the thing, like he gets there, he it’s like the, you know, the victims or the targets view on things as well. And it’s just, it’s, it’s fascinating. Like it really is just an interesting show to get, to see that mindset and see that there are so many different people out there with so many different kinds of hatred in their heart, The old, uh, the old standup comedy thing, because those people, but you should have sit in their basements until the internet was created and they found the others and then they made groups, you know, they used to just sit in their basements and just rocking back and forth. Yep. I hate whatever. Now They found others now they found each other and, and they’ve, they’ve they? Yeah. They’ve borked. Um, and they procreate. Yeah. So yeah. So that’s, that’s, that’s, that’s been my, my newest obsession. Um, yeah. I’ve been watching the hell out of that just because it is, it is. I mean, it’s, to me that, like, that kind of stuff is just utterly fascinating to see the, the rationalizations and like, especially like the guys in England, the EDL, like, like th the one guy he followed around just calls everyone patties. Cause it like, it’s like, I guess that’s the derogatory term, like, cause, cause they’re not all from Pakistan, but if you like, it’s just, you know, Paki, like that’s, that’s, that’s the word for them. Um, and you know, making this guy and like at the end of the episode, when he does his little like, okay, here’s what I really think. Like the guy tried to fight him. Like it’s like so apparent, like the vast majority of the EDL are like their soccer hooligans. Um, and, and so like this guy was like taking a shirt off, trying to get through the producers, Adam, the cops were like, so, I mean, it’s, it’s just it’s I mean, it is, but it is. I, like I said, I highly recommend it. It’s called a hate, my neighbor. Um, it’s it’s just an it’s it’s an educational watch if nothing else, By the way, have you seen that? Well, how the internet is going crazy today? Um, from it’s it’s apolitical, but the, with the protest in st. Louis that went through the rich neighborhood. Oh, Karen and Ken. Yeah. Karen and Ken. Yeah. The funny thing is it doesn’t matter. Like I follow pretty much every political group, libertarian, Republican Democrat, and everyone is like, just literally destroying, like, this is like the, one of the, one of the funniest, absolute things. It’s like, there’s, there’s an old expression that says the internet has one star every day. Your goal is to not be that person Was all the concern, all this stuff that I was watching, like from the rights or like the libertarian point, it was like, yeah, you kind of have a right to defend your property, but your brandishing and you have no trigger discipline. You’re an asshole. So it’s like, and then the left is like yours, Stupid. Like, yeah. You’re, you’re, you’re you you’re brandishing weapons that people that are just walking by your house, they’re not even, they wasn’t no favors with anyone like, Oh, in the end, the best part is apparently they’re both lawyers, um, and have their own firm. And so their Facebook page just got destroyed to the point where they turned off reviews and recommendations. And so people just dove in on whatever and started commenting on whatever posts that they had. And it’s just, it is, did I, like I had tears streaming down my face while I was reading some of this crap. Cause did like the internet, the internet takes no prisoners. It’s it’s just, it’s amazing. The means came out immediately. Like I’m talking like good meme. Oh yeah. Like dude, like full Full-blown movie posters with those two. And it was, it was just, it’s outstanding. The Halloween costumes steal this look, it’s like Brooks brothers, cotton performance polo, $89, 50 cents Soho fit, chinos, oatmeal color, $128. I do. 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They were there on the evening of June 19th. Is Remy still bartending there? No, no. He’s been gone from there for a while. So that’s what? 10 days ago. Yeah. Yeah. So what do you guys think about the, um, do you guys think the dream cruise is actually going to be canceled? Well, I think so all of that, none of the public events will happen. Like that’s that’s for damn sure. Um, and, and my like, dude, you can’t stop people from getting in their car and going and driving like you can’t. Um, but you can, you can stop all of the crowds and you can stop. You can stop, you can stop all of the parking lot hangout, stuff like that, you know, but as far as the cruise itself will likely still happen, but none of the other stuff will. Yeah. What I would have read, not saying I’d rather have that announcement. I’m saying like biker is like, Hey, listen, if you’re going to do the cruise, stay in your car, do not park, do not congregate. You know what I mean? At least set up. Maybe we’re past all that with setting up guidelines cause people aren’t gonna effing follow them. Anyway. You know, I would have that saying, instead of just saying it’s outright canceled, just saying, Hey, the official event, isn’t going to be what it is. Um, if you guys want to take your, you know, if you want to take a lap and show up your cars, please, you know, I dunno, Here’s the issue with that? Like isn’t like there, like I would assume there is a, an organization or several organizations that are behind that. And so if it moved forward, officially there would be liability. And Does it not own it? The North American auto, I don’t, I don’t care who owns it, who, whoever owns it, there would be an enormous liability issue if that were to go forward. And it came out that that was a hot spot. And you know, there was, you know, a super spreader event. Um, I’m, I’m sure, you know, there’ll be lawsuits out the wazoo, uh, cause this is America. It’s what we do. Yeah. By the way, speaking of America, America’s all about dumb arguments. I want you guys to settle something for me, we’ve all had the argument is hotdog. A sandwich is tofu food. Um, but this one, this one happened this week. Tofu is not food. Right? Exactly. Um, this one happened this weekend, so we’re at the, you know, they open up the neighborhood pool and one of the neighbors, No, Bob, no, you should not go in the pool with diarrhea. Was that, was that okay? Was that okay? I got diarrhea. So when I go swimming now, that was not very well. The argument was, um, so I ordered a pizza places delivered to the pool that been there long enough where they kind of know us address and say the pool. Um, basically, so then I order a deep dish around or deep dish with me around with veggies and cheese bread. Right. Okay. And the one kid doesn’t want to eat. He’s like, I just want a pizza with no sauce. And I go cheese bread. I go to that’s the first thing I said, I go, I got cheese bread. He goes, no, it’s good. It doesn’t, it’s not the same. And I go bread. Jeez, no sauce. And he goes, well, they got spices on it. And I go open it up. I go, I don’t see any spices Skippy. And he goes, there’s Parmesan on it. I’m like, bro, what do you think they put on pizza? It’s like, I’m sitting here and he goes, Hey. And then everyone starts piling on me going. He likes what he likes. Let them be. I’m like, no, no, somebody, somebody needs to teach This kid. Cause obviously his parents are failing him. Somebody has to step in. I was in my house. It would be like, fine donate. I give a shit like, go get this, go get the salami out of there, out of the drawer, if you want to eat tonight. Um, but then someone else brought it up. They go, Hey, he has a meeting. I go, no, he wants pizza without the sauce. And they go, yeah, cheeseburger, cheeseburger, all this time. I go, what am I? What have I been missing? Um, but anyway, that was the, uh, the dumb argument. And uh, you know, then the other dumb argument is okay, like last week we talked about, um, you know, anti-Obama and uncle Ben and they’re kind of, you know, at what point, like, is it stop becoming admirable and stop and start being ridiculous because right now we’re hearing, they’re starting. It’s starting to, I don’t, maybe you, you tell me if, uh, see, I didn’t know who voiced Cleveland on family guy, but apparently he’s white and he stepped down. I’m saying he didn’t want to voice. You know? So then all of a sudden the internet goes, The girl that the girl that voices, uh, Missy on, uh, on big mouth has stepped down now. Oh my really? But then like, you know, then all of a sudden, now everyone starts piling on being okay, the Simpsons are yellow and Seth McFarland voices, a dog is going to come out to make him step down. Right. Yeah. Is, is Joe on family guy only going to be able to be voiced by a paraplegic now? Well, no. And here, and here’s my thing like, and this is why, like, I kind of understood the blow back against Scarlet Johansson, um, over ghost in the machine. Cause that was, you know, an Asian character. She is not an Asian actress. Like, okay, fine. You know, but like we’re not talking about like Scarlet Johanson playing like Harriet Tubman in the movie. Like we’re talking about voice actors here. And to me, especially like, so an actor’s job at the end of the day is to make you not remember who they are because they were supposed to be playing a character that is even more true in my head when it comes to voice actors, because you don’t see them, you don’t know who they are. And to me, like when, cause, and I started having this conversation yesterday with a few people, then I just had to stop. Um, but like, so to me, if you’re saying that a person of color must be voiced by that person of color, that is almost taking a step that says, okay, well, black people only like black people sound a certain way. Asian people sound a certain way, you know? And, and so is isn’t that right? So like, I, I don’t, I really don’t know that I agree with this one at all. And, and, and, and while the blow back about that was happening, there was the other flare up, uh, that I started getting into with people about, uh, with last night, there was an incident with protesters down in DC, down in Detroit, um, where they were leaving a protest and a cop car with its lights and sirens on, uh, people basically swarmed around the cop car. Uh, apparently their back window was broken and the cop just drove the SUV through the people. Um, and, and people were jumping up on, they were not, they did not get hit and thrown up on the hood. They jumped up on the hood of the car. Uh, and so like, and I was like, okay, look like unpopular opinion. But here’s where I started having a problem with protests and protesters. Because at that point you are not peacefully protesting. You are not, you know, you’re not, you’re not doing anything. You are, you are a interfering with traffic, be interfering with a police vehicle with its lights and sirens on that for all, you know, is trying to get to a gunshot victim or a far more serious set of circumstances, um, than dealing with you walking down the street, trying to get back to your cars. Cause I believe that’s all it was at that point. Um, and, and that’s like, that’s how you get a black eye on, on your entire movement is by trying to pull shit like that. And so, you know, kind of like this, like I do. So kind of the same thing. I, I think that, I think the voice acting thing is going a little bit too far. And I think like that is like, cause we were like, Oh, this is outrageous that this happened. I’m like, no, you, they, they were trying to start shit. And they got shit that like, that they were Then the media didn’t do any favors by seeing the cop car plowed through them. Cause I watched it from eight different angles. Yeah. And that car stopped three times then all of a sudden then when they piled on the hood back window goes out, then the gas hit like plowing through is plowing through like you’ve seen truck drivers that yeah. Yeah. That’s, that’s legit. It happened to people. Right. And so, yeah, like I, Here’s the thing, like not to jump around a little bit, but it’s the same token, like Bart Simpson has been voiced by a woman for what? 30 years. Yeah. However long that show’s been on. Yeah. Since I’ve been 13, so yeah, probably close to 30 years. Um, but I don’t think anyone’s ever complained. Like, you know, like, I don’t know, there’s Darth Vader. Yeah. Darth Vader, white guy, white guy inside it voiced by a black guy. Well, and it’s, you know, and it’s one of those things where like, and like, and I understand like one of the sentiments that’s out there is, well, Hey, they’re trying to basically step away from this role to free up a spot for a person of color that, that might then get that job. Okay. But who’s to say that that person of color is the best person for that job. Like what, like, so like now I look at, so now the family now family guy is going to change and, and Cleveland’s voice is going to be different. Now they did that a while ago. Um, now, you know, big mouth, which is just starting to really gain traction. One of the main characters is going to change. Um, and yeah, I just, I, I mean, recasting, isn’t an issue though. Like they replaced, you know, Lacy Shabbir well, yeah. I mean, so like Lacey Shavera was the voice of Meg, the first season of family guy. Um, and then, y