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SHOW TOPICS-HOGAN DEATH HOAX-AEW Lawsuit-Goldberg says Gunter is next-Our brackets are all messed up for King and Queen of the Ring-Liv Morgan has a shoulder injury; what does that mean for Evolution 2?-NXT ELIMINATOR & BLAKE SIGNS HER CONTRACT

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ManiaJohn Cena's RunBacklash Predictions and ResultsThe releasesRichochet v Jevon Evans

summaryThe conversation delves into the complexities of cultural representation in wrestling, focusing on Swerve Strickland's recent actions and the backlash from figures like Booker T. The discussion highlights the exploitation of black culture by media outlets like Vlad TV and the implications of associating with controversial figures like Chasen Rance. The speakers express concerns about authenticity in wrestling and the consequences of Swerve's behavior, emphasizing the need for humility and genuine representation in the industry. In this segment of the conversation, the speakers delve into various themes surrounding wrestling, including critiques of interview styles, the importance of authenticity in representation, the health and well-being of wrestlers, and the anticipation for WrestleMania. They discuss the dynamics of the NXT women's championship and speculate on potential outcomes and storylines, emphasizing the need for genuine representation in the wrestling industry. In this segment of the conversation, the speakers discuss various wrestling matches and predictions leading up to WrestleMania. They analyze the potential outcomes of title matches, the significance of rising stars, and the impact of controversial matches on the wrestling community. The conversation also highlights the empowerment of women in wrestling, particularly focusing on a historic match featuring two black women. The speakers express their opinions on the dynamics of triple threat matches and the overall excitement and confusion surrounding the WrestleMania card. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the upcoming WrestleMania matches, analyzing the dynamics and potential outcomes of key bouts. They discuss the impressive speed of Bronbreaker, the anticipated clash between LA Knight and Jacob Fatu, and the stakes involved in the title match between Charlotte Flair and Tiffany Stratton. The conversation also covers the triple threat match featuring Rhea Ripley, E.O. Sky, and Bianca Belair, as well as the battle between Jey Uso and Gunther. Finally, they reflect on the significance of the match between Cody Rhodes and John Cena, emphasizing the emotional undertones and the potential for future storylines.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Mania and Cultural Representation02:21 Booker T's Response to Swerve Strickland04:32 The Controversy Surrounding Chasen Rance08:50 Vlad TV's Role in Exploiting Black Culture12:00 Swerve Strickland's Authenticity and Cultural Identity20:20 The Consequences of Swerve's Actions26:31 Reflections on Wrestling Culture and Representation36:29 Critique of Interviewing Styles39:26 Authenticity in Wrestling Representation42:39 Health and Well-being of Wrestlers43:54 WrestleMania Expectations48:08 Rumors and Speculations in Wrestling50:38 NXT Women's Championship Dynamics01:03:44 Future of Women's Wrestling Titles01:05:17 Rising Stars and Title Contenders01:09:59 Championship Matches and Predictions01:14:51 Controversial Matches and WrestleMania Build-Up01:19:44 Women's Empowerment in Wrestling01:24:58 Triple Threat Dynamics and Title Contention01:33:06 The Rise of Bronbreaker01:40:16 LA Knight vs. Jacob Fatu: A Clash of Titans01:42:18 Charlotte Flair vs. Tiffany Stratton: A Title Match with Stakes01:46:03 Triple Threat: Rhea Ripley, E.O. Sky, and Bianca Belair01:52:04 Jey Uso vs. Gunther: A Battle for the Ages01:55:34 Cody Rhodes vs. John Cena: The Passing of the Torch02:06:30 Final Thoughts on WrestleMania 39

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we are back with the mess from the IWC

THIS IS A BIG EPISODE. WE TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING INCLUDING THE BET BETWEEN CINKO AND NICOLE!

NXT was CRAZYAEW GRAND SLAMWWE ID TITLES AND WWE GOTTA TIGHTEN UPBLACK HISTORY: THE WINGO SISTERS

WE HAD A WHOLE SHOW PLANNED BUT WWE ALWAYS WITH THE ISHRICKY STARKS POPPED UP IN NXTWWE & AEW RELEASESMAIN EVENT WHO GOT NEXT THE NEXT BIG MEGA STAR OF WWE IS WHO?

SURVIVOR SERIES DEADLINE SATURDAY NIGHT MAIN EVENT NETFLIX X WWE TESSA BLANCHARD RETURNS AND MOOSE GETS INTO IT ON X WITH FANS OVER TESSA REY FENIX SPEAKS AND PENTA IS SET TO DEBUT IN WWE

SURVIVOR SERIES RESULTS NEW DAY AND MONDAY NIGHT RAW SATURDAY NIGHT MAIN EVENT CARD DEADLINE & NXT AEW FULL GEAR

SURVIVOR SERIES RESULTS NEW DAY AND MONDAY NIGHT RAW SATURDAY NIGHT MAIN EVENT CARD DEADLINE & NXT

Full Gear was interesting shout out to Bleacher Report and Wrestle Zone for the results Survivor Series changes and predictions WWE ID Prospects

Summary In this episode, Tiffany and Alexis discuss the latest happenings in AEW and NXT, including rumors surrounding Malachi Black, the dynamics of various storylines, and the role of women in wrestling. They delve into character development, controversial storylines, and the future of wrestling promotions, providing insights and opinions on the current state of the wrestling industry. The conversation delves into the dynamics of wrestling rivalries, particularly focusing on NXT and AEW. Key themes include the evolution of characters like Liv Morgan and Moxley, the significance of the Iron Survivor Challenge, and the impact of crowd reactions on performances. The discussion also touches on the ratings battle between AEW and NXT, highlighting the depth of storylines and character development. The hosts critique various promos and matches, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and the psychological aspects of wrestling.

Summary In this episode, the hosts discuss the upcoming NXT event at the historic 2300 Arena, its significance in wrestling history, and the controversies surrounding WWE's use of the venue. They also preview TNA's Bound for Glory, highlighting key matches and the potential impact of Joe Hendry's participation in Eurovision. The conversation shifts to AEW, touching on recent developments, including the breakup of Britt Baker and Adam Cole, and upcoming matches featuring notable wrestlers. In this episode, the hosts delve into the significance of character costumes in wrestling, discussing how outfits reflect the personalities and storylines of wrestlers. They analyze the fashion choices of various wrestlers, emphasizing the importance of style and presentation in creating a compelling character. The conversation shifts to upcoming matches and predictions for future wrestling events, highlighting the excitement surrounding the wrestling community. The hosts also touch on the need for wrestlers to maintain a cohesive image and the impact of their presentation on audience perception.

Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Overview of Recent Changes 03:00 Samantha's Departure from WWE 17:16 Upcoming NXT Halloween Havoc Event 24:29 Scene Setting and Predictions 27:38 Match Dynamics and Character Development 31:11 Roster Changes and Future Prospects 33:24 Championship Stakes and Match Stipulations 36:51 Crown Jewel Championship Overview 43:41 Big E's New Ventures 47:03 Vince McMahon Documentary Insights 52:56 The Ring Boys Scandal and Legal Repercussions 57:44 The Chaos of the Work Environment 58:29 Insights from Former WWE Writers 01:00:44 Vince McMahon: The Man Behind the Curtain 01:02:18 Separating Art from the Artist 01:07:11 The Impact of Scandals on Wrestling Fans 01:10:19 The State of Sports Teams and Fan Reactions 01:25:19 Introduction to the Conversation 01:25:49 Overview of Topics Discussed Takeaways Samantha's departure from WWE was a significant topic, highlighting her contributions and future plans. The hosts expressed their mixed feelings about the return of Lillian Garcia to WWE. NXT Halloween Havoc is set to feature several exciting matches, including a Devil's Playground match. The Crown Jewel event will introduce a new championship title, adding intrigue to the matches. The hosts emphasized the importance of storytelling in wrestling and how it affects viewer engagement. Discussion about the challenges faced by wrestlers in balancing personal and professional lives. The hosts shared their predictions for the outcomes of upcoming matches at Halloween Havoc. The conversation included insights into the evolving landscape of women's wrestling in WWE. The hosts reflected on the significance of representation in wrestling commentary and announcing roles. The episode showcased the hosts' camaraderie and shared love for wrestling, making for an engaging listen. Crown Jewel will feature a new championship title for both men and women. Biggie is set to star in a new TV series on Peacock. The Vince McMahon documentary reveals disturbing details about the Ring Boys scandal. Vince McMahon's legacy is complicated by his past and the allegations against him. Corporate accountability is crucial in addressing past abuses in WWE. Fans struggle to separate their enjoyment of wrestling from the actions of its creators. The Ring Boys scandal highlights systemic issues within WWE's culture. Consumer choices reflect personal values and ethics in entertainment consumption. The conversation emphasizes the need for transparency and accountability in corporate practices. Wrestling fans are encouraged to critically assess their support for the industry.

Selective Outrage is the topic today. And the Mafia is going in.

Summary In this conversation, Tiffany provides a detailed recap and analysis of the WWE storyline leading up to the Bad Blood event. She discusses the match card, character dynamics, and rivalries, particularly focusing on the tensions between CM Punk and Drew McIntyre, as well as the evolving relationship between Cody Rhodes and Roman Reigns. Tiffany also speculates on future directions for the characters and the potential outcomes of the matches.

BLACK MALE WRESTLERS IN THE WWE NOT BEING FEATURED VINCE MCMAHON DOCUMENTARY BAD BLOOD PREDICTIONS AND MATCHCARD

The conversation covers a variety of topics including the potential collaboration between Mercedes Monáe and Megan Thee Stallion, the impact of TikTok on music, WWE's music themes, and the upcoming Vince McMahon documentary. The hosts discuss the implications of these events on the wrestling and music industries, as well as the potential changes in WWE programming with SmackDown moving to three hours.

In this episode, the hosts discuss various topics in the wrestling world, including Ricochet's online interactions with fans, the significance of nostalgia contracts for female wrestlers, the debut of Odyssey Jones amidst domestic violence allegations, and Hulk Hogan's controversial statements and legacy. The conversation is lively and filled with personal insights and opinions on the current state of wrestling. In this conversation, the hosts delve into the controversial legacy of Chris Benoit and Hulk Hogan, discussing the implications of their actions and the wrestling community's response. They also analyze the PWI 500 list, expressing frustration over the rankings and the absence of female wrestlers. The discussion touches on Swerve Strickland's recent resignation from WWE and the overall state of wrestling rankings, highlighting the disconnect between fans and wrestling legends.

It's just me Nicole is on vacay and Alexis needed rest. So I was all on my lonesome for this one. AEW's All Out was a well-received show with a good mix of brutal matches and compelling storylines. The standout feud was between Hangman Adam Page and Swerve Strickland, which culminated in a steel cage match. Hangman sought revenge for the taunting and attacks he endured before Strickland became the AEW champion. Hangman ultimately burned Strickland's childhood home down, which was seen as justified by many. Other notable matches included Bryan Danielson vs. Jack Perry and Willow Nightingale vs. Kris Statlander in a brutal street fight.

Summary In this part of the conversation, the hosts discuss the passing of wrestler Sid Vicious and pay their respects. They also review AEW's All In event, highlighting both the good and the bad. The main criticisms include Britt Baker's performance and the Young Bucks as champions. On the positive side, they praise Malakai Black's win and the overall match quality. The conversation covers various topics related to recent wrestling events. They discuss the placement of matches on the card, the use of weird and surprising elements, and the importance of booking correctly. They also touch on the short reign of a black champion in AEW and compare it to the criticism WWE receives for similar situations. The conversation then shifts to the appearance of Rosemary on NXT and the excitement it brings. Finally, they mention Triple H's booking of tattoos as a hard truth. The conversation in this part revolves around the lack of focus on tag team wrestling in both WWE and AEW. The participants express their frustration with the excessive number of factions and the lack of tag teams within them. They discuss the rumors of Lucha Bros heading to WWE and skipping NXT, and express concerns about how they will be booked. They also criticize the booking of tag team championships, particularly the Raw tag team titles being tied up in Judgment Day. The conversation then shifts to a discussion about the overhyped talent in AEW, specifically focusing on Britt Baker and her perceived lack of in-ring skills and reliance on other wrestlers to carry her matches. The participants emphasize the importance of talent working hard and earning their positions rather than relying on favoritism or gimmicks. In this final part of the conversation, the hosts discuss various topics related to wrestling. They touch on the importance of talent over style, the problem with comparing new female wrestlers to the Four Horsewomen, the overrated status of certain wrestlers, and the need for character development. They also address the issue of fans attacking each other online and the misconceptions about wrestlers being buried or jobbers. The hosts express their frustrations with online trolls and emphasize the importance of enjoying wrestling without getting caught up in negativity.

Summary In this conversation, the hosts discuss various topics related to wrestling, including a mid-year review, the direction of wrestling, Shane McMahon's involvement in AEW, and wrestling pet peeves. They share their frustrations with the wrestling fan base, such as the tendency to compare different wrestling companies and the obsession with backstage contract negotiations. They also express their annoyance with fans who don't practice good hygiene at wrestling events. The hosts emphasize the importance of enjoying wrestling without unnecessary negativity and highlight the need for proper personal hygiene. In this conversation, Tiffany discusses various topics related to wrestling and fan culture. She expresses her frustration with fans who take wrestling too seriously and engage in toxic behavior online. She also talks about her commentary work and the hate she receives for it. Tiffany emphasizes the need for fans to turn off the negativity and enjoy wrestling as a form of entertainment. The conversation also touches on personal experiences, such as Tiffany's meeting with Britt and their shared love for food.

Summary The conversation begins with a discussion about going out and the different preferences for staying in or going out. The topic then shifts to walking long distances in hot weather and the challenges of public transportation. The conversation then moves on to the upcoming Olympics in LA and the potential impact on traffic and public transportation. The discussion then takes a humorous turn as the participants share stories about encountering unpleasant smells in public places. The conversation transitions to a discussion about wrestling, specifically SummerSlam and the matches and storylines that stood out. The participants also mention upcoming wrestling events and express their excitement. The conversation covers various topics related to wrestling, including potential storylines and character development. The hosts discuss the need for changes in the roster and suggest moving certain wrestlers to different shows. They also share heartwarming stories about wrestlers interacting with fans. The conversation veers into a discussion about the Olympics and the controversy surrounding certain athletes. They also briefly touch on the recent Summer Slam event and express their excitement for certain matches. The conversation ends with a humorous discussion about the large number of children some wrestlers have. SummerSlam was a long and exhausting show, but overall, it was enjoyable. The highlight was Roman Reigns' return and his dominant performance. The match between Solo and Cody was okay, but not great. The event had some standout moments, but it was also tiring for the audience. The future storylines between Cody and Kevin, as well as Liv Morgan and Rhea Ripley, need to have substance and strong promos. The event generated a lot of social media buzz, especially Roman Reigns' return. Overall, SummerSlam was a good show with room for improvement. In this part of the conversation, the hosts discuss the recent events involving Britt Baker in AEW. They talk about her health scare and her return to the ring. They also mention rumors of her breakup with Adam Page and her subsequent suspension from AEW. The hosts express their opinions on these developments and discuss the state of women's wrestling in AEW. In this part of the conversation, the hosts discuss the suspension of Britt Baker and the retirement of Daniel Bryan. They question the fairness of the suspension and the reasons behind it. They also express concern for Daniel Bryan's well-being and criticize his reckless wrestling style. The hosts emphasize the importance of setting boundaries and prioritizing family over wrestling. They also mention the need for clear guidelines and consistent punishment in the wrestling industry. In this final part of the conversation, Tiffany and Alexis discuss the future of wrestlers after retirement and the potential career paths they can pursue. They also share their thoughts on Daniel Bryan's retirement and his decision to continue wrestling despite health concerns. The conversation then transitions to a discussion of the upcoming All-In and BASH in Berlin events, with a breakdown of the match cards and their thoughts on the matches. They also mention their plans for future podcast episodes and express their support for Janae, who is currently dealing with personal challenges.

In this conversation, Nicole and Alexis discuss a recent wrestling event and their excitement for a particular wrestler's storyline. They also touch on other wrestling-related topics, such as contracts and pay disparities. The conversation then shifts to TV shows, with a discussion about the show House of Dragon and a debate about the show Bridgerton. The conversation ends with a playful exchange about smoking cigarettes.

In this episode, the hosts discuss the recent events in WWE, including the Money in the Bank pay-per-view and the return of Rhea Ripley. They also talk about Seth Rollins and CM Punk's altercation, as well as the potential match between Sami Zayn, Ilja Dragunov, and Bron Breakker at SummerSlam. The main topic of discussion is the Hurt Business and whether they should be allowed to come back. Overall, the hosts were not impressed with Money in the Bank and felt that some of the matches were lackluster. The conversation covers various topics related to the Money in the Bank pay-per-view event. They discuss the wrestling styles of different wrestlers, the disappointment with certain matches, and the predictability of Triple H's storytelling. They also touch on the importance of failed cash-ins in the Money in the Bank concept and the need for more unpredictability in the women's division. The conversation ends with a mention of the AEW event and the comparison between Jey Uso and Enzo Amore. NXT Heatwave was praised for its solid matches and surprising moments. The tag team match between Lonnie and Sol and Axiom and Frazier was particularly impressive, showcasing the future stars of NXT. The women's match between Roxanne and Lola was also highly regarded. The main event, featuring Javon and Trick, had a shocking twist that left fans divided. Overall, Heatwave received positive reviews and was considered a strong pay-per-view. In this conversation, Tiffany and Alexis discuss various wrestling matches and storylines. They talk about the potential of certain wrestlers on the main roster, the North American Championship match, and the Fatal Four Way match. They also discuss CM Punk's actions and Seth Rollins' response, as well as the Wyatt Sick storyline. They share their thoughts on Liv Morgan and Rhea Ripley's interaction and Damien Priest's involvement. Overall, they express excitement and anticipation for upcoming events in the wrestling world.

Summary In this episode, the hosts discuss the upcoming Money in the Bank event and the matches on the card. They start with the Seth Rollins vs. Damien Priest match and predict that something unexpected will happen. They then move on to the six-man tag team match between the New Bloodline and Cody Rhodes, Randy, and Kevin. The hosts are unsure of the outcome and speculate about possible storylines. They also discuss the men's Money in the Bank ladder match and mention several participants, including LA Knight, Drew McIntyre, Carmelo Hayes, Chad Gable, Jey Uso, and Andrade. They each give their predictions for the winners of the match. The episode ends with some lighthearted banter. The conversation revolves around predicting the winners of the Money in the Bank matches in WWE. The participants discuss their picks for the men's and women's matches, sharing their thoughts on the potential winners and their reasons for choosing them. They also express their frustrations with certain wrestlers and their booking decisions. Overall, the conversation is filled with excitement and anticipation for the upcoming event. In this conversation, Alexis and Tiffany discuss their thoughts on various WWE wrestlers and upcoming matches. They express their frustration with the booking of Shayna Baszler and her partnership with Zoe Stark. They also discuss their predictions for the NXT Heatwave and Money in the Bank pay-per-view events.

Summary The conversation revolves around the frustration with the overexposure of the Judgment Day stable on WWE Raw. The hosts express their desire for the storyline to wrap up and for the focus to shift to other wrestlers. They discuss Liv Morgan's role in dismantling Judgment Day and causing discord within the group. They also touch on the recent title changes and the need for fresh storylines and character development. Overall, they express their fatigue with the prolonged presence of Judgment Day and the lack of progression in the storyline. In this part of the conversation, the focus is on Liv Morgan and her character development. The speakers discuss how Liv could improve her seductive persona and be a more effective villain. They mention past female wrestlers like Sable, Torrie Wilson, and Trish Stratus who were able to be sexy and alluring without crossing the line. They also touch on the importance of having diverse writing teams for each division to create more cohesive and engaging storylines. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/down-4-the-count/message

Summary In this conversation, the hosts discuss their top five wrestling managers of all time. They reminisce about the impact these managers had on the wrestlers they represented and the entertainment value they brought to the industry. The managers mentioned include Paul Bearer, Marlena, Yosef Semi-O, Sensational Sherri, Jimmy Hart, Mr. Fuji, Bobby Heenan, Hornswoggle, Paul Heyman, and Paul Ellering. Each manager is praised for their unique contributions and the way they elevated the wrestlers they worked with. In this conversation, the speakers discuss their favorite wrestling managers. They share their personal connections to these managers and highlight their contributions to the wrestling industry. The managers mentioned include Miss Elizabeth, Selina de la Renta, Leo Rush, Maria Kanellis, Teddy Long, Chyna, Luna Vachon, and Nancy. The speakers express their admiration for these managers and discuss their impact on the wrestlers they worked with. They also emphasize the importance of wrestling managers and express a desire to see more managers in the industry. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/down-4-the-count/message

WE ARE BREAKING DOWN EVERYTHING WYATT SICK6 SETH'S RETURN CLASH AT THE CASTLE NXT BATTLE ROYAL --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/down-4-the-count/message

Summary The conversation revolves around the NXT Battleground event and the crossover between TNA and WWE. The main themes include anxiety over match outcomes, the potential of Ricky Starks in NXT, opinions on Joe Coffey's character, appreciation for Oba Femi's championship win, and thoughts on the NXT Women's North American Championship match. The conversation also touches on the setup of the event and the performances of various wrestlers. The conversation in this part of the recording focuses on the women's match at the event and the impact of Jordan Grace's appearance. There is also discussion about the outfits and appearances of the wrestlers. The conversation then shifts to the men's match and the disappointment with the outside interference. The discussion continues with the analysis of the NXT underground match and the criticism of the booking decisions. The conversation concludes with the analysis of the Triple Threat match for the North American Championship and the disappointment with the execution of the match. In this part of the conversation, the hosts discuss the upcoming Battle Royal in NXT and speculate on potential participants. They mention several wrestlers they would like to see, including Joe Hendry, Mustafa Ali, Steve Macklin, Chris Bay, and Josh Alexander. They also discuss the possibility of WWE allowing more talent to work with other promotions, such as TNA and New Japan. The hosts express their excitement for the potential partnerships and the opportunities it could provide for wrestlers. In this final part of the conversation, the hosts discuss the upcoming WWE event in Scotland, Clash at the Castle. They make predictions for the matches and discuss potential storylines. They also talk about the need for new faces at the top and the importance of building new stars. The hosts express their excitement for the future of the podcast and encourage listeners to subscribe to their YouTube channel. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/down-4-the-count/message

NXT Battleground is coming up with several matches booked. The first match discussed is Gallows and Anderson vs. Axiom and Nathan Frazier for the tag team titles. It is predicted that Axiom and Frazier will retain the titles. The second match is a six-woman ladder match for the Women's North American Championship. Lash Legend, So Ruka, Mi-Chen, and Fallon are the top contenders, with Mi-Chen predicted to win. The third match is a triple threat for the NXT Men's North American Championship. Wesley and Joe Coffey will challenge Oba Femi, with Coffey predicted to win. The fourth match is a non-title bout between Shayna Baszler and Lola Vice, with Baszler predicted to win. NXT Battleground is approaching, and there are several intriguing storylines and matches to look forward to. The main event will feature Trick Williams defending his NXT Men's Championship against Ethan Page, who has made a surprising entrance into NXT. Another highly anticipated match is between Roxanne Perez and Jordan Grace for the NXT Women's Championship. There is also a women's North American Championship match between Mi Chen and Fallon. Shayna Baszler will face Lola Weiss in a highly personal feud, and Frazier and Axiom will defend their tag team championships. Overall, NXT Battleground promises to be an exciting event with potential title changes and intense rivalries. Takeaways Axiom and Nathan Frazier are likely to retain the tag team titles against Gallows and Anderson Mi-Chen is the top contender for the Women's North American Championship, but Fallon may win Joe Coffey is predicted to win the NXT Men's North American Championship Lola Vice is not seen as a threat in the non-title match against Shayna Baszler The feud between Shayna Baszler and Lola Weiss is intensifying, with Shayna being the dominant force and Lola relying on her MMA background. Roxanne Perez's reign as NXT Women's Champion is criticized for her constant complaints and avoidance of title defenses. Trick Williams and Ethan Page have a heated rivalry, with Ethan seeking to take the NXT Men's Championship from Trick. The potential winners at NXT Battleground include Frazier and Axiom retaining their championships, Joe Coffey becoming the men's North American champion, and either MiChIn or Fallon becoming the inaugural women's North American champion. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/down-4-the-count/message

Summary In this conversation, the hosts discuss wrestling tropes and the concept of variants in wrestling characters. They explore examples of wrestlers who can be considered variants of other wrestlers, such as Roman Reigns and Cody Rhodes. They also touch on the strong black woman trope in wrestling and mention wrestlers like Awesome Kong, Jacqueline, and Naomi. The conversation also covers the idea of fast-tracking in wrestling and the success of wrestlers like Sheamus and Seth Rollins. They briefly mention other wrestlers with many variants, such as Finn Balor and Shawn Michaels. The hosts emphasize the importance of letting wrestlers find their own paths and not expecting them to be the same. They also discuss body shaming in wrestling and the challenges of intense training. The conversation concludes with a mention of Becky Lynch's book and an upcoming NXT event. The conversation covers various topics related to wrestling, including the upcoming partnership between WWE and UFC, the frustration with the Peacock streaming service, and the potential winners of the King and Queen of the Ring tournaments. The hosts also discuss the different characters and variants in wrestling, emphasizing the importance of watching wrestling as a form of entertainment and not taking it too seriously. Takeaways Wrestling characters can be considered variants of other wrestlers, with similarities in appearance, character, or wrestling style. The strong black woman trope is prevalent in wrestling, with wrestlers like Awesome Kong, Jacqueline, and Naomi embodying this archetype. Fast-tracking can lead to quick success in wrestling, as seen with wrestlers like Sheamus and Seth Rollins. Body shaming in wrestling is harmful and unnecessary, and fans should focus on the talent and skills of the wrestlers. Wrestlers should be allowed to find their own paths and not be expected to be the same as others. Becky Lynch's book and an upcoming NXT event are mentioned as points of interest in the wrestling world. WWE is partnering with UFC for an upcoming pay-per-view event. There is frustration with the Peacock streaming service. The hosts discuss potential winners of the King and Queen of the Ring tournaments. They emphasize the importance of watching wrestling as a form of entertainment and not taking it too seriously. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Overview 05:44 The Mean Girl Trope and Variants 13:17 Exploring Different Variants in Wrestling 37:01 Exploring Different Character Variations 43:42 Comparing Wrestlers to Samples in Music --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/down-4-the-count/message

Summary The conversation covers various matches and storylines in WWE, including King and Queen in the Ring, the Intercontinental Championship, and Logan Paul vs. Cody Rhodes. The hosts share their predictions and opinions on the matches. They also discuss the potential of Liv Morgan, the character work of Chad Gable, and the upcoming fight between Logan Paul and Tyson. The conversation touches on the business savvy of the Paul brothers and the scripted nature of boxing. Overall, the hosts express their excitement for upcoming events and their support for certain wrestlers. In this part of the conversation, the hosts discuss the upcoming King and Queen of the Ring tournaments in WWE. They predict the winners and express their thoughts on the competitors. They also talk about Mercedes Martinez in AEW and discuss her character and presentation. They share their opinions on her promos, outfits, and overall presence. The hosts suggest that she needs a stylist and a more cohesive character presentation. They also discuss other wrestlers in AEW and their ability to connect with the audience. The conversation discusses the issues with Sasha Banks' character in AEW and the overall problems with AEW's creative direction. It suggests that Sasha Banks needs to evolve her character and hire a stylist to reflect her persona. The conversation also highlights the lack of authenticity and structure in AEW, with too many people having creative control. It proposes that AEW needs consistency, order, and structure in their storylines and matches. WWE is praised for its ability to structure storylines and build new characters. The conversation concludes by mentioning upcoming appearances on other podcasts and promoting their social media accounts. Takeaways The hosts discuss various matches and storylines in WWE, sharing their predictions and opinions. They express their support for Liv Morgan and discuss her potential as a wrestler. The hosts appreciate the character work of Chad Gable and discuss his upcoming match. They talk about the upcoming fight between Logan Paul and Tyson and the scripted nature of boxing. Overall, the hosts express their excitement for upcoming events and their support for certain wrestlers. Predictions for the winners of the King and Queen of the Ring tournaments in WWE Discussion on Mercedes Martinez's character and presentation in AEW Suggestion for Mercedes Martinez to get a stylist and create a more cohesive character Comparison of wrestlers in AEW and their ability to connect with the audience Chapters 00:00 Crying over job loss and resilience 02:39 Introduction and focus on AEW 03:28 Upcoming WWE events 04:16 King and Queen in the Ring match predictions 11:14 Intercontinental Championship match discussion 25:59 Predicting the Winners of the King and Queen of the Ring Tournaments 31:50 Analyzing Mercedes Martinez's Character and Presentation in AEW 38:25 The Importance of a Stylist and Cohesive Character 52:36 Comparing Wrestlers' Ability to Connect with the Audience in AEW --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/down-4-the-count/message

Summary In this episode, Nicole, Alexis, Tiff, and Trey discuss various topics related to wrestling. They talk about Becky Lynch's book becoming a New York Times bestseller and their plans to read it. They also discuss the upcoming WWE draft and speculate on which wrestlers might be moved to different brands. They touch on the impact of social media on modern wrestling, both positive and negative. Overall, they have a fun and lively conversation about the current state of wrestling. The conversation explores the impact of social media on wrestling and the potential benefits of wrestlers being on platforms like Netflix. They discuss the importance of wrestlers finding a balance in their online presence and managing parasocial relationships with fans. They also mention wrestlers like Bailey, Big E, Liv Morgan, and The Bella Twins who have a positive online presence. The conversation touches on the potential of wrestlers like Drew McIntyre and Kevin Owens using social media to further storylines and create better feuds. They also speculate on which wrestlers could benefit from being on Netflix, including Bianca Belair, LA Knight, Randy Orton, and The New Day. The conversation covers various topics related to WWE, including the tag team titles, the upcoming championship match, and the controversy surrounding Javon Evans. The hosts express their opinions on these subjects and discuss the emotional moments in wrestling. They also mention Meek Mill's involvement in WrestleMania and share their final thoughts. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/down-4-the-count/message

Summary The conversation covers various matches and moments from a wrestling event, including the Undertaker's retirement, Cody winning with the help of others, Seth's match, and Bailey's victory. The speakers express their opinions on the matches, the wrestlers' performances, and their hair choices. They also discuss the involvement of Logan Paul and the overall enjoyment of the event. Night 2 of WrestleMania was highly praised, with a fast-paced and entertaining lineup of matches. The main event between Roman Reigns and Cody Rhodes was particularly emotional and well-executed. The long reign of Roman Reigns as champion was acknowledged, with appreciation for his portrayal of a true villain. The presence of legends like The Undertaker and The Rock added to the excitement. Stephanie McMahon made an appearance, and the crowd showed their support for Cody Rhodes. Overall, Night 2 received an A+ rating. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/down-4-the-count/message

Summary Night one of WrestleMania was a mixed bag, with some good matches and some disappointing ones. The standout matches included Becky Lynch vs. Rhea Ripley and Andrade vs. Santos. The tag team match between The Bloodline and The Rock & Cody was chaotic and didn't live up to expectations. The show was rated a C- overall. The main event between Roman Reigns and Cody is predicted to result in Cody winning the title. The night ended with a feeling of anticipation for night two. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/down-4-the-count/message

Summary AEW releases several wrestlers, sparking controversy. Ronda Rousey reveals an incident of inappropriate behavior in the WWE locker room. The stories differ between Rousey and Drew Gulak, who claims it was an accidental brush against her drawstring. The truth lies somewhere in between. The conversation covers various topics, including personal space and boundaries, Rhonda Rousey's recent comments, and predictions for WrestleMania. The hosts discuss the importance of personal space and the need for training on boundaries in the wrestling industry. They also express their opinions on Rhonda Rousey's recent comments and her approach to speaking out. The conversation concludes with predictions for WrestleMania matches. In this part of the conversation, the hosts discuss their predictions for the Stand and Deliver event in NXT. They talk about the matches and share their thoughts on who they think will win. They also briefly mention the breakup of tag teams and the potential split of the tag team titles. The hosts express their love for certain wrestlers and share funny anecdotes about their interactions with fans and friends in the wrestling community. In this final part of the conversation, the hosts discuss the upcoming NXT Stand and Deliver event. They share their thoughts on various matches and predict the winners. They also touch on rumors of NXT expanding to Japan and the impact of guaranteed money in professional wrestling. The hosts plan to do a live review of WrestleMania and take a break before returning with more episodes and guest appearances. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/down-4-the-count/message

Summary In this part of the conversation, the hosts discuss CM Punk's recent interview and share their thoughts on it. They talk about how Punk remained calm and open during the interview and how he discussed various topics, including his experience in AEW and the incident with Jungle Boy. They also touch on the lack of professionalism in AEW and the need for structure and respect in the locker room. The hosts reflect on their previous opinions of Punk and apologize for misjudging him. In this part of the conversation, the hosts discuss the altercation between CM Punk and Jack Perry, also known as Jungle Boy. They analyze the events leading up to the altercation, including the disagreement over a stunt and the backstage politics involved. They also discuss CM Punk's return to wrestling and his relationship with WWE. The hosts highlight the lack of medical support for wrestlers in AEW compared to WWE and the negotiations that took place for CM Punk's return. Overall, they emphasize the importance of understanding CM Punk's personality and intentions. In this part of the conversation, Alexis and TIFF discuss their initial misjudgment of CM Punk and their surprise at learning that his pipe bomb promo was scripted. They also discuss the lack of structure and continuity in AEW and the importance of focusing on numbers and ratings in the TV business. They share their satisfaction in being proven right about their criticisms of AEW and express their desire for the company to improve and compete with WWE. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/down-4-the-count/message

Summary In this episode, the hosts discuss Bray Wyatt's documentary and share their thoughts on it. They talk about the emotional impact of Bray's passing and the well-done nature of the documentary. They highlight the creative process and talent of Bray Wyatt, as well as his close-knit family. The hosts also mention the misconceptions surrounding Bray's personal life and relationships. They discuss the Firefly Fun House and its unique appeal, as well as the memorable match between Bray Wyatt and John Cena at WrestleMania. They encourage listeners to watch the documentary and support Bray Wyatt's family. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/down-4-the-count/message

Summary In this part of the conversation, the participants discuss the upcoming matches at WrestleMania and share their predictions. They talk about the LA Knight vs. AJ Styles match, the Jimmy vs. Jay Uso match, and the tag team match between The Rock and Roman Reigns vs. Cody and Seth. They express their opinions on who they think will win each match and discuss the potential storylines and character development that could come out of these matches. The conversation revolves around the upcoming tag team matches at WrestleMania and the potential storylines and outcomes. There is speculation about Cody Rhodes and the Bloodline expanding, as well as the involvement of surprise guests. The participants express their frustration with the women's tag team division and the need for more meaningful matches. They also discuss the potential for Cody Rhodes to win the championship and the possibility of a Roman Reigns vs. The Rock match at SummerSlam. The conversation in this part of the recording revolves around the WWE WrestleMania event and the predictions for various matches. The participants discuss the lack of a big pre-WrestleMania fight and express their frustration with certain wrestlers. They also share their predictions for the tag team titles, Intercontinental Championship, United States Championship, and Women's World Championship matches. The conversation revolves around the booking of the WWE Women's Championship and the World Heavyweight Championship matches at WrestleMania. The participants discuss different scenarios and potential outcomes for these matches. The conversation revolves around the upcoming WWE event and the potential outcomes of the matches. The participants discuss the chaotic nature of the matches and express their concerns about the potential messiness. They also analyze the performances of various wrestlers and debate who should win the matches. The main focus is on the match between Cody and Roman for the WWE Universal Championship, with different opinions on who should come out as the winner. In this part of the conversation, the speakers discuss their thoughts on the outcome of the wrestling match between Roman and Cody. They express their frustration with the possibility of Roman winning and the WWE potentially dragging out the storyline. They also talk about their emotional investment in the match and how it affected their daily lives. The conversation then takes a humorous turn as they discuss unrelated topics such as an underground vampire sex club and the cover of PWI featuring Mustafa Ali. In this final part of the conversation, the hosts discuss the issue of men cosplaying as female wrestlers and the different perceptions of it in different cultures. They also touch on the topic of social media's impact on wrestling. The hosts share their thoughts on Dana Brooke's character and acting skills, as well as Sasha Banks' speech impediment. They wrap up by mentioning their upcoming episodes on WrestleMania and the importance of enjoying the event. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/down-4-the-count/message

Summary In this episode of the wrestling podcast, the hosts discuss various topics including Maurice's health scare and recovery, Bill Goldberg's comments about Asuka, and their personal experiences with drinking dirty pop. They also engage in playful banter and share their opinions on different wrestling-related matters. In this conversation, the participants discuss the controversial comments made by Goldberg about Asuka. They express their frustration with Goldberg's disrespectful remarks and highlight Asuka's accomplishments and contributions to the wrestling industry. They criticize Goldberg's lack of respect for the sport and his inability to match Asuka's wrestling skills. The conversation also veers into humorous discussions about Goldberg's career and personal life. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/down-4-the-count/message

Summary The conversation revolves around the recent lawsuit against Vince McMahon and the speculation on the involvement of other WWE executives. The hosts discuss the importance of reading articles and understanding the details before jumping to conclusions. They also touch on conspiracy theories surrounding the deaths of Tupac and Biggie. The conversation concludes with a desire for closure in the lawsuit and a discussion on Cody Rhodes' title reign. The conversation covers topics such as the statute of limitations, controversial practices in wrestling, misinformation on social media, comedic roles in Hollywood, the acting skills of John Cena and The Rock, the range of Dave Bautista's acting, the comparison of The Rock and Dave Bautista's acting, the acting career of The Rock, Kevin Hart's acting chops, different characters played by Batista, John Cena's acting career, avoiding clickbait and malware, reflection on the passage of time, the tag team division in WWE, splitting the tag team titles, Finn Balor's role in WWE, taking a break from WWE after WrestleMania, attending SummerSlam in Cleveland, concerns about stadium seating, and the importance of reading articles and avoiding misinformation. Takeaways Read articles and understand the details before forming opinions. Conspiracy theories can provide alternative perspectives but should be taken with a grain of salt. Silence and presenting evidence can be powerful strategies in legal cases. The statute of limitations can impact the ability to pursue legal action. The hosts express a desire for closure and a need for change in the wrestling industry. Be cautious of misinformation on social media and rely on reputable sources for accurate information. Actors like Dave Bautista and Kevin Hart have showcased their range and versatility in various roles. The Rock's acting career has been successful, but some feel that he often plays similar characters. John Cena and The Rock have different approaches to their acting careers, with Cena taking on comedic roles and The Rock focusing on action films. The tag team division in WWE has the potential to be revitalized with the inclusion of various talented teams. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/down-4-the-count/message

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Summary In this conversation, the hosts discuss various what-if scenarios for WrestleMania. They anticipate the matches and storylines, including Rhea Ripley vs. Becky Lynch and the possible involvement of other wrestlers like Bianca Belair. They also discuss the tag team titles and the potential role of Logan Paul in the event. The conversation is filled with excitement and anticipation for the upcoming WrestleMania. In this part of the conversation, the hosts discuss AJ Styles' unique travel habits, speculate on Randy Orton's next opponent, and analyze the gauntlet match for Gunther's opponent at WrestleMania. They also explore different scenarios for the World Heavyweight Title match, including a potential cash-in by Damien Priest. The hosts discuss the involvement of The Rock and Finn Balor in the feuds and express their dissatisfaction with the current setup. The conversation revolves around the desire for Cody to win, frustration with the current state of wrestling, and the importance of enjoying the matches and stories. There is a discussion about the potential outcomes if Cody doesn't win and the next person in line for a title shot. The conversation concludes with final thoughts and gratitude for the opportunity to discuss wrestling. Takeaways The hosts are eagerly anticipating WrestleMania and discussing various what-if scenarios. They speculate on the outcomes of matches and potential storylines, including Rhea Ripley vs. Becky Lynch and the involvement of other wrestlers like Bianca Belair. The hosts express their dislike for the inclusion of Nia Jax in the women's match and discuss the need for palette cleanser matches during the event. They also discuss the tag team titles and the potential role of Logan Paul, expressing both admiration for his in-ring skills and dislike for his personality. AJ Styles has unique travel habits, such as wearing the same clothes on the plane and taking a quick shower and blowout before important events. There is speculation on who will be Randy Orton's next opponent, with LA Knight and Logan Paul being mentioned as possibilities. The gauntlet match for Gunther's opponent at WrestleMania includes Chad Gable, Sami Zayn, and others. Different scenarios are discussed for the World Heavyweight Title match, including a potential cash-in by Damien Priest. The hosts express their dislike for the current setup and discuss the potential involvement of The Rock and Finn Balor in the feuds. The desire for a specific wrestler to win can create emotional investment in the outcome of matches. Feeling overwhelmed by the complexity and abundance of storylines in wrestling can lead to disinterest and fatigue. It is important to focus on the development and progression of storylines and characters in wrestling. Watching wrestling with a different perspective, such as treating it like a movie or focusing on the enjoyment of matches, can enhance the viewing experience. Being open to surprises and unexpected outcomes in wrestling can lead to a more enjoyable and fulfilling experience. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/down-4-the-count/message

We had a special guest this week! JUSS of GETCHO PODCAST please go and follow them on all social media cause their podcast is fun and amazing to listen to! @getchopodcast! We covered all the current events that have going on in the media Sammy G. getting suspended, WWE 2k24, The Rock gaining ownership of all his catchphrases and names, etc. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/down-4-the-count/message

Elimination Chamber and the little tidbits that happened. Plus were all together again like one big happy family! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/down-4-the-count/message

BRITT IS STILL WITH US AND WERE TALKING ABOUT GEARS! THE GEARS WE LOVE AND THE GEARS WE HATE. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/down-4-the-count/message