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Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett join Mackenzie on this episode of our 'Rediscover Bethel' series where we evaluate the teachings of Bill Johnson from Bethel Redding Church in their videos attempting to clarify their theological beliefs. We get into the topic of the Sovereignty of God and Bill's support and usage of the infamous Passion translation and the damaging effects and origins of it. Hi, I'm Mackenzie. I'm a music artist, worship leader, wife, mom (I wear a lot of hats), and host of the Godly Whistleblower podcast. I seek to shine a light on popular teachings and music in the church today and share what Scripture teaches on how we are to worship in spirit and in truth within the church gathering. My desire is to learn together with my listeners how Christians are to live lives ultimately as a pleasing worship to God. If you enjoyed this episode, I'd appreciate so much if you left me a review! Thank you for listening! - Mac Listen: Apple Podcasts: https://shorturl.at/IyDv6 Spotify: https://shorturl.at/fv7ee Website: https://godlywhistleblower.podbean.com/ Sign up for the newsletter: https://rb.gy/huteir Socials: https://www.facebook.com/godlywhistleblower https://www.instagram.com/godlywhistleblower https://www.tiktok.com/godlywhistleblower Follow Mackenzie at: https://www.instagram.com/themackenziemorgan https://facebook.com/themackenziemorgan https://youtube.com/mackenziemorgan Buy me a coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/godlywhistleblower Email: godlywhistleblower@gmail.com
Jan Markell talks to Holly Pivec about Paula White, the N.A.R., the Seven Mountain Mandate, and more. Jan also talks to Josh Schwartz about an urgent upcoming event. Ken Mikle and Josh Schwartz discuss prophecy-related issues with Nathan Jones. To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.oneplace.com/donate/407/29
Jan Markell talks to Holly Pivec about Paula White, the N.A.R., the Seven Mountain Mandate, and more. Jan also talks to Josh Schwartz about an urgent upcoming event. Ken Mikle and Josh Schwartz discuss prophecy-related issues with Nathan Jones. To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.lightsource.com/donate/1472/29
Holly Pivec is a speaker, author, blogger, and podcaster. She and David examine Paula White, who was recently appointed by President Trump to lead the White House Faith Office. Holly Pivec's website: https://www.hollypivec.com/ Books by Holly: https://www.hollypivec.com/books www.worldviewmatters.tv © FreedomProject 2025
Jan Markell talks to Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett for the hour about the continuing wreckage of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) which is nothing less than reckless Christianity. Many former NAR members say Bethel and Hillsong music snagged them and drew them in. The theology is also Kingdom NowHeaven is going to come to earth! To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.oneplace.com/donate/407/29
Jan Markell talks to Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett for the hour about the continuing wreckage of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) which is nothing less than reckless Christianity. Many former NAR members say Bethel and Hillsong music snagged them and drew them in. The theology is also Kingdom NowHeaven is going to come to earth! To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.oneplace.com/donate/407/29
Jan Markell talks to Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett for the hour about the continuing wreckage of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) which is nothing less than reckless Christianity. Many former NAR members say Bethel and Hillsong music snagged them and drew them in. The theology is also Kingdom NowHeaven is going to come to earth! To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.lightsource.com/donate/1472/29
Jan Markell talks to Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett for the hour about the continuing wreckage of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) which is nothing less than reckless Christianity. Many former NAR members say Bethel and Hillsong music snagged them and drew them in. The theology is also Kingdom NowHeaven is going to come to earth! To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.lightsource.com/donate/1472/29
Watch Jan Markell from Understanding the Times To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.lightsource.com/donate/1472/29
Watch Jan Markell from Understanding the Times To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.lightsource.com/donate/1472/29
The New Apostolic Reformation is a fast-growing movement that rests upon the belief that there are modern-day apostles and prophets with governing authority. Additionally, there are other beliefs and practices associated with this movement, such as territorial spiritual warfare. Though some will deny that this movement exists, many can attest to the contrary. Join me in this discussion with Holly Pivec, Doug Geivett, and Mike Beckett as we talk about the NAR and the practice of territorial spiritual warfare. Mike Beckett's YT Channel: https://youtube.com/@thedeadprophet5090?si=J8vTNnUAZemeJzGl My info: Website: http://www.lovesickscribe.com Subscribe to my blog here: http://eepurl.com/dfZ-uH Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lovesickscribe/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lovesickscribeblog If you found this video helpful, please share it with others and leave a good review. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dawn-hill2/support
We discuss the dangerous and often subtle teachings of the NAR movement, Bethel music, and its problematic influence. What used to be on the fringes of the church is now mainstream, and many are being deceived. The authors of a new book, Counterfeit Kingdom share their concerns and research.
On today's episode, we take another look at the controversial movement, known as, the “New Apostolic Reformation”. We enlist the help of authors; Holly Pivec and R. Douglas Geivett, to examine the evidence and determine; is the “NAR” compatible with Biblical Christianity, or is it a “Counterfeit Kingdom”. Additional References: Holly's Blog: https://www.hollypivec.com/ The Second London Baptist Confession (1689): https://founders.org/library-book/1689-confession/ https://www.the1689confession.com/ Social Media: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StayReformed Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/stayreformed Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stayreformed/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/stayreformedpodcast/ Website: https://www.stayreformed.com/ Email: contact@stayreformed.com
Bethel Church and the New Apostolic Reformation: Christian or Cult? Many people have been attracted to Bethel Church and the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) movement. However, the movement's emphasis on modern-day apostles and prophets shows dangerous signs of being more about power and control than creating a church faithful to Jesus's teachings. Here I engage in a roundtable discussion with Anthony Costello, Dr, Douglas Geivett, and Holly Pivec, exposing NAR as something more counterfeit than Christian.
In this episode of the Reclamation Podcast, we will talk in-depth about a topic that has been on my mind for some time: prophecy. After reflecting on the subject and ongoing conversations with clients, mentoring participants, and course members, I realized there is much confusion about prophecy and its purpose. To address this issue, I have invited Holly to join me in a discussion to offer clarity and insights. Whether you seek a better understanding of prophecy or navigating its role in your life, this conversation is for you. Don't miss it! Holly's social media: Website: https://www.hollypivec.com/ YouTube: @HollyPivecOfficial Instagram: @hollypivec Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hollypivecauthor/ ----------------- Support this work by visiting https://www.beemboldened.com/donate to make a tax-deductible donation (formerly Naomi Wright Ministries / NWM).
August 15, 2024 HOLLY PIVEC, blogger, author, speaker, a pastor's wife & a homeschooling mom with a Masters Degree in Apologetics from Biola University, where she served as University Editor for nearly a decade, *AND* Doug Geivett, author, speaker, Professor Emeritus of Philosophy@ Biola University, & former President of the Evangelical Philosophical Society, who will both address: “COUNTERFEIT KINGDOM: The DANGERS of NEW REVELATION, NEW PROPHETS & NEW AGE PRACTICES in the CHURCH” Subscribe: iTunes TuneIn Android RSS Feed Listen:
Luke and Wes spend time talking about a requested subject -- the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). How should we evaluate this movement's theology and practices? Take a listen. ❇️ Recommended Reading ❇️ John Wimber's "The Five-Fold Ministry" (https://bit.ly/4dlkaOi) Robby McAlpine's "Post-Charismatic: A Road to Recovery" (https://amzn.to/3M2P2qP) R. Douglas Geivett & Holly Pivec's "A New Apostolic Reformation?: A Biblical Response to a Worldwide Movement" (https://amzn.to/3XcDyYx) Brad Christerson & Richard Flory's "The Rise of Network Christianity: How Independent Leaders Are Changing the Religious Landscape" (https://amzn.to/3M3jmlf) ❇️ Recommended John Wimber Books ❇️ "Power Healing," by John Wimber (https://amzn.to/2HiA3YV) "Power Evangelism,' by John Wimber (https://amzn.to/2TP6Nyd) "Power Points," by John Wimber (https://amzn.to/31NwqSC) "Everyone Gets to Play," by John Wimber (https://amzn.to/2Z4PJdf) "The Way In is the Way On," by John Wimber (https://amzn.to/2ZdiTCg) ❇️ Recommended Books ABOUT John Wimber ❇️ "John Wimber: The Way it Was," by Carol Wimber (https://amzn.to/2HiUFQJ) "Never Trust a Leader Without a Limp: The Wit and Wisdom of John Wimber," by Glenn Schroder (https://amzn.to/3PtHvSM) "John Wimber: His Life and Ministry," by Connie Dawson (https://amzn.to/3FSpYAI) "Worshiping with the Anaheim Vineyard: The Emergence of Contemporary Worship," by Andy Park, Lester Ruth, & Cindy Rethmeier (https://amzn.to/31TDm0w) "Toronto in Perspective: Papers on the New Charismatic Wave of the 1990s," edited by David Hilborn (https://amzn.to/2L3nIsP) "John Wimber: His Influence & Legacy," edited by David Pytches (https://amzn.to/2ZfgbfC) || FOLLOW US || Website: https://sacramentalcharismatic.substack.com Luke IG: https://instagram.com/lukegeraty Luke Twitter: https://twitter.com/lukegeraty Wes IG: https://www.instagram.com/wesmac5 Wes Twitter: https://twitter.com/wesmac5 SUPPORT US BY SUBSCRIBING AND CONSIDERING BECOMING A PAID SUBSCRIBER!
TAKEAWAYSThe NAR movement adds to the Bible by teaching that apostolic dominion is necessary to usher in the return of ChristNAR believes that apostles are authorized by God to bring new revelation and take dominion over the EarthThese NAR apostles believe that they are more powerful than elders and pastors in the churchProphets and apostles often teach that their revelations are a direct pipeline to God and that their revelations are on par with the Bible
The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is one of the fastest growing movements "within or on the periphery of American Christianity." Join Michael Horton, Bob Hiller, Walter Strickland, and Justin Holcomb as they discuss where this contemporary movement came from, what its tenets of dominionism, new apostles, and direct revelation are, why its teachings are so prominent in Contemporary Christian Music, and how they are connected to the old, esoteric tradition of enthusiasm. CHECK OUT THIS MONTH'S OFFERS: Praying with Jesus: Getting to the Heart of the Lord's Prayer by Adriel Sanchez. Become a Partner to support the work of White Horse Inn as we apply the riches of the Reformation to the modern church. Subscribe to Modern Reformation magazine. Our May/June issue is “This Isn't the Reformation You're Looking For,” where we feature essays and articles about the “New Apostolic Reformation” (NAR) and how its vision of revivalism and enthusiasm is not the kind of renewal the church and culture needs. RESOURCES MENTIONED: Redemptive History and the New Testament Scriptures by Herman Ridderbos Counterfeit Kingdom: The Dangers of New Revelation, New Prophets, and New Age Practices in the Church by Holly Pivec, R. Douglas Geivett A New Apostolic Reformation?: A Biblical Response to a Worldwide Movement by Holly Pivec, R. Douglas Geivett For more information, visit us at whitehorseinn.org or email us at info@whitehorseinn.org. Featuring: Michael Horton, Bob Hiller, Walter Strickland, and Justin Holcomb
Jan Markell talks to Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett for the hour about the continuing wreckage of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) which is nothing less than reckless Christianity. Many former NAR members say Bethel and Hillsong music snagged them and drew them in. The theology is also Kingdom NowHeaven is going to come to earth! To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.oneplace.com/donate/407/29
Jan Markell talks to Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett for the hour about the continuing wreckage of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) which is nothing less than reckless Christianity. Many former NAR members say Bethel and Hillsong music snagged them and drew them in. The theology is also Kingdom NowHeaven is going to come to earth! To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.lightsource.com/donate/1472/29
Watch Jan Markell from Understanding the Times To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.lightsource.com/donate/1472/29
What is the New Apostolic Reformation and why do you need to know about it? Holly Pivec, author and apologist, warns the church about the teachings and practices of NAR. NAR is a fast growing movement in the church that emphasizes signs and wonders, and they believe God provides new revelation through His prophets. Have you heard of Bethel Church? Do you you listen to Jesus Culture? If so, you're more familar with NAR than you might realize. Holly's insightful knowledge and passion to weigh everything against Scripture will not only inspire you, but motivate you to be discerning when it comes to false doctrine. Hollypivec.com Find Shanda www.shandafulbright.com Instagram & Facebook: @shandafulbright Email: hello@shandafulbright.com Free Resources: https://shandafulbright.com/links YouTube: http://bit.ly/ShandaYT2021 Store: www.Shandafulbright.com/shop
Holly Pivec joins us for a repeat broadcast from 1/19/24 for an in-depth look at the New Apostolic Reformation, particularly as represented by the likes of Bill Johnson at Bethel. Who is this man and what is this "reformation" they speak of? Even the first part of the name, "New Apostolic" should set off alarms, but a reformtion? Is it a cult? We will talk about the who, what, how and why of it. We also take a look at what we might call the "gateway drug" of Bethel and Hillsong: the music arm of these churches, which has spread the doctrine of NAR far and wide to untold numbers of churches around the world. The teachings of NAR aren't particularly new, considering the Latter Rain Movement of the 1940s and the Kansas City Prophets of the 1980s, but as with anything that the church refuses to be discerning about, it never goes away and just spreads, particularly in the computer/internet age. If you know of anyone caught in the web of NAR this is for you. Her new book, "Reckless Christianity" can be found here. "Counterfeit Kingdom" can be found here. Shameless plug for swag for our listeners/donors! https://www.redpillprints.com/stand-up-for-the-truth - Thanks for YOUR Support!
Bethel Church in Redding, California, is one of the most popular and polarizing churches in America. Home to the award-winning Bethel Music label, its songs are among the most used in churches. Thousands of people visit the church each year, drawn by reports of miraculous healings, the manifestation of a glittering Glory Cloud, and other miracles. They're convinced that the church is at the forefront of an end-time movement that is restoring miraculous power to the church-at-large and “bringing heaven to earth.” Yet others are concerned that Bethel has left the boundaries of Scripture and brought its followers into a dangerously speculative and experience-driven faith. They say that, in the name of training miracle workers, Bethel has introduced hazardous, perhaps even occultic, practices into the church. This has resulted in chaos, confusion, and damaged lives. In this book we examine the controversial teachings of the “Bethel Church Movement,” as it is called, which has transformed modern Christian practice, culture, and worship. We show its place in the broader New Apostolic Reformation, a worldwide movement of “apostles” and “prophets” intent on reconstructing the mission and the message of the Christian church. BOOK HERE https://www.amazon.co.uk/Reckless-Christianity-Destructive-Teachings-Practices/dp/1725272474/ref=pd_ci_mcx_mh_mcx_views_0?pd_rd_w=F3Lg0&content-id=amzn1.sym.6aea875e-359f-49f3-864f-cff62d586b6a%3Aamzn1.symc.ca948091-a64d-450e-86d7-c161ca33337b&pf_rd_p=6aea875e-359f-49f3-864f-cff62d586b6a&pf_rd_r=1GBH3J6GRP9MMJCQVDVQ&pd_rd_wg=YbF9G&pd_rd_r=130b6566-118e-4555-ac58-83a8322e6106&pd_rd_i=1725272474 Please let us know in the comments where in the world you are tuned in from and make sure to give this video a like and subscribe to our channel to help promote sound Bible content on YouTube. Please consider becoming a supporter of Exposit The Word. Your one-time gift or regular monthly giving will help us reach more people with the Gospel and to help us equip people with sound bible teaching via online media and the production of physical Gospel tracts. https://exposittheword.com/support-us/
On today's Equipping You in Grace show, Dave talks with Dave and Holly Pivec about the concerning influence of Bill Johnson and Bethel, how they interpret the Bible, govern the church, why and how Christians can engage in discernment, and speak out against this movement, along with her book with Doug Givett, Reckless Christianity: The Destructive New Teachings and Practices of Bill Johnson, Bethel Church, and the Global Movements of Apostles and Prophets (Wifi and Stock, 2024).What you'll hear in this episodeWho Bill Johnson and Bethel are and how has their influence grown and why is that important to understand.The biggest reasons why Christians should be concerned about Bethel.The concerning nature of Bethel church's government.How Christians should evaluate the shocking claims made by Bethel and Bill Johnson.What is so concerning about the Passion translation.The most concerning thing about how Bethel interprets the Bible.The problems with Bethel's claims of “binding and loosing” and how Christians should think about them.Help for the average Christian on speaking out against the New Apostolic Reformation.About Our GuestHolly Pivec is a blogger, author, and speaker, as well as a pastor's wife and homeschooling mom. She has a master's degree in apologetics from Biola University, where she also served as university editor for nearly a decade. She has coauthored two books about the New Apostolic Reformation: A New Apostolic Reformation? and God's Super-Apostles. She operates a popular blog which has followers from around the world, and has spoken and written for several audiences and outlets.Subscribing, sharing, and your feedbackYou can subscribe to Equipping You in Grace via iTunes, Google Play, or your favorite podcast catcher. If you like what you've heard, please consider leaving a rating and share it with your friends (it takes only takes a second and will go a long way to helping other people find the show). You can also connect with me on Twitter at @davejjenkins, on Facebook, or via email to share your feedback.Thanks for listening to this episode of Equipping You in Grace!
Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett have a newly released book titled 'Reckless Christianity.' They discuss the destructive new teachings and practices within the church with NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) and spiritual warfare.Reckless Christianity: https://www.hollypivec.com/bookswww.worldviewmatters.tv© FreedomProject 2024
Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett have a newly released book titled 'Reckless Christianity.' They discuss the destructive new teachings and practices within the church with NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) and spiritual warfare.Reckless Christianity: https://www.hollypivec.com/bookswww.worldviewmatters.tv© FreedomProject 2024
Holly Pivec joins us today for an in-depth look at the New Apostolic Reformation, particularly as represented by the likes of Bill Johnson at Bethel. Who is this man and what is this "reformation" they speak of? Even the first part of the name, "New Apostolic" should set off alarms, but a reformtion? Is it a cult? We will talk about the who, what, how and why of it. We also take a look at what we might call the "gateway drug" of Bethel and Hillsong: the music arm of these churches, which has spread the doctrine of NAR far and wide to untold numbers of churches around the world. The teachings of NAR aren't particularly new, considering the Latter Rain Movement of the 1940s and the Kansas City Prophets of the 1980s, but as with anything that the church refuses to be discerning about, it never goes away and just spreads, particularly in the computer/internet age. If you know of anyone caught in the web of NAR this is for you. Her new book, "Reckless Christianity" can be found here. "Counterfeit Kingdom" can be found here. Shameless plug for swag for our listeners/donors! https://www.redpillprints.com/stand-up-for-the-truth - Thanks for YOUR
Holly Pivec is an author, received her master's degree in Christian apologetics from Biola University, and helps expose the New Apostolic Reformation, apologetics, and theology. She equips Christians to be discerning and to evaluate all their beliefs based on Scripture and careful reasoning. Together with Biola professor Doug Geivett, she co-authored three books: A New Apostolic Reformation? A Biblical Response to a Worldwide Movement, and God's Super-Apostles: Encountering the Worldwide Prophets and Apostles Movement; and the book we're going to discuss today, “Counterfeit Kingdom: The Dangers of New Revelation, New Prophets, and New Age Practices in the Church.”
Are there really apostles still alive today who have the power to call down the judgments of God in the book of Revelation? Join Jason and Holly Pivec as they uncover elements of NAR's unique spiritual warfare doctrine, drawing attention to contentious beliefs around demonic activity and the casting out of demons. Click here to order Jason's New Book: Parenting Gen Z: Guiding Your Child through a Hostile CultureJason Jimenez on Social Media Follow @JasonPJimenez on Twitter Follow @JasonPJiminez on Instagram Subscribe to Jason Jimenez on YouTube Additional Resources Challenging Conversations book on Amazon Stand Strong Ministries Website Stand Strong Ministries on Facebook
Holly Pivec shares three more reasons why knowing the Bible's End-Times prophecies is important. In her previous episode, Holly explained the first three reasons. To learn more about the New Apostolic Reformation ("NAR") movement, which has many extreme and unbiblical teachings about the end times, see Holly's co-authored book, Counterfeit Kingdom: The Dangers of New Revelation, New Prophets, and New Age Practices in the Church. To go deeper, see her other co-authored books, A New Apostolic Reformation?: A Biblical Response to a Worldwide Movement and God's Super-Apostles: Encountering the Worldwide Prophets and Apostles Movement. To receive Holly's podcasts and interviews, subscribe to her new YouTube channel.
Jan Markell hosts apologists Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett for the hour to reveal the troubling agenda of the New Apostolic Reformation. This movement encourages the leadership of apostles and prophets, suggests they can bring heaven to earth, and promotes extra-biblical revelation. Should churches be playing their music, produced by Bethel Church, Hillsong, and more? Who are the leaders of the NAR? Contact the authors at HollyPivec.com. Find the book in our online store. To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.oneplace.com/donate/407/29
Holly Pivec shares three reasons why knowing the Bible's end-times prophecies is important, despite the wariness many Christians have about a subject that has been taught poorly. While we should not become obsessively fixated on the end-times prophecies, we also must not neglect them, because they increase our confidence in God's Word and stimulate holy living. To learn more about the New Apostolic Reformation movement, which has many extreme and unbiblical teachings about the end times, see Holly's co-authored book, Counterfeit Kingdom: The Dangers of New Revelation, New Prophets, and New Age Practices in the Church.
The authors of Counterfeit Kingdom, Holly Pivec and R. Douglas Geivett, join Sarah and Evan for the second of a two-part look at the New Apostolic Reformation, a movement that has drawn a lot of criticism but continues to grow. In NAR, the miraculous is normalized and incredible claims are made almost daily. But are these claims true and/or Biblical? Many thanks to Holly and Douglas for giving us their time!
The authors of Counterfeit Kingdom, Holly Pivec and R. Douglas Geivett, join Sarah and Evan for the first of a two-part look at the New Apostolic Reformation, a movement that has drawn a lot of criticism but continues to grow. In NAR, the miraculous is normalized and incredible claims are made almost daily. But are these claims true and/or Biblical? Many thanks to Holly and Douglas for giving us their time!
Holly Pivec explains “binding and loosing prayer” and how New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) leaders view it as the key for establishing God's kingdom on earth. In a previous episode, she explained NAR leaders' peculiar take on the Great Commission — as a commission to take dominion of the nations and “bring heaven to earth” — which closely relates to their novel interpretation of the Lord's Prayer.
Holly Pivec explains New Apostolic Reformation leaders' peculiar understanding of the Great Commission, which relates closely to their novel interpretation of the Lord's Prayer.
We discuss the dangerous and often subtle teachings of the NAR movement, Bethel music, and its problematic influence. What used to be on the fringes of the church is now mainstream, and many are being deceived. The authors of a new book, Counterfeit Kingdom share their concerns and research.
EP 109 | The Truth About the NAR w/ Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett | Redeeming Truth In this detailed expose, we delve into the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). This global movement has become infamous for its authoritative claims, divine revelations, and emphasis on signs and wonders. The NAR has been under scrutiny for its teachings and practices, which often diverge from traditional beliefs and lack biblical substantiation. This video takes a critical look at the Wake Up Olive incident, a distressing event that put the questionable aspects of the NAR in the spotlight. We scrutinize the NAR's use of the Passion Bible, which is under fire for introducing NAR teachings into the text, casting a shadow on the movement's credibility. As the evangelical community begins to challenge the NAR's authority and identify departures from biblical truth, we provide an in-depth look into these critical viewpoints. Despite the NAR's tendency to dismiss or misinterpret these critiques, there is a growing counter-movement opposing the NAR's teachings. We also explore the book "Counterfeit Kingdom," by Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett, which offers guidance on safeguarding oneself from misleading theology, and discuss the advised avoidance of NAR music within churches due to its incorporation of NAR teachings. Redeeming Truth Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLViZXZvfiieZEiZH7F4j97PcAmIpfV9F Counterfeit Kingdom Book: https://www.amazon.com/Counterfeit-Kingdom-Revelation-Prophets-Practices/dp/1087757495 Click here to Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCenfIkvDIJa4Qb4WgsH8hkw?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/redeemerbibleaz/ For more information about Redeemer Bible Church in Gilbert, Arizona, or to help support this ministry, please visit us at https://www.redeemeraz.org Join our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/redeemeraz
In this episode, Brian Auten and Chad Gross discuss a variety of topics.1:46 - Chad makes English Tea3:20 - Where have we been?4:20 - Mailbag question: Apologetics songs?15:45 - What have we been reading?16:11 - The Discipline of Grace by Jerry Bridges18:13 - The Knight & Rose Show18:27 - Common Sense Economics19:09 - When the Church Was Young19:54 - Not so keen on C.S. Lewis?23:39 - Why There Is No God29:46 - Pocket History of the Church30:25 - What we've been watching…30:34 - Guardians of the Galaxy35:22 - The Messed Up Church Channel35:42 - Justin Peters Ministry37:04 - History of the Pentecostol / Charismatic Movement40:31 - Share your NAR Experience…43:21 - Mandalorian Season 345:32 - Justin Schieber vs Eric Hernandez debate51:05 - An Apologist's Prayer“Remind me to be quick to pray, with an alert mind and a thankful heart. Please give me opportunities to speak the truth about Christ to those who do not know Him. Teach me to proclaim this message as clearly as I should. Work in me so that I may live wisely among those who do not believe, so that I will make the most of each opportunity. Ensure that my conversations are gracious and attractive. And please provide me with the wisdom I will need to thoughtfully respond to each person.” Based Colossians 4:2-6Further resources and videos mentioned:Counterfeit Kingdom: The Dangers of New Revelation, New Prophets, and New Age Practices in the Church by Holly Pivec and Douglas GeivettGod's Super Apostles: Encountering the Worldwide Prophets and Apostles Movement by Holly Pivec and Douglas GeivettSongs Mentioned: Creed - PetraWords in the Water - Thrice Creed - Third DayGod's Not Dead - Newsboys================================We appreciate your feedback.If you're on TWITTER, you can follow Chad @TBapologetics.You can follow Brian @TheBrianAutenAnd of course, you can follow @Apologetics315If you have a question or comment for the podcast, record it and send it our way using www.speakpipe.com/Apologetics315 or you can email us at podcast@apologetics315.com
The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is a popular and fast-growing new movement of Christians who emphasize signs and wonders and teach that God is giving a new revelation through new apostles and prophets. But is this biblical Christianity? This stuff used to be fringe. Now it's probably in your church in some way. Why is this dangerous, and how can you spot it? I talk with Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett, the authors of Counterfeit Kingdom, about this concerning movement.
Jan Markell hosts authors Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett for the hour to reveal the troubling angle of the New Apostolic Reformation. This movement encourages the leadership of apostles and prophets, suggests they can bring heaven to earth, and promotes extra-biblical revelation. Should churches be playing their music, produced by Bethel Church, Hillsong, and more? Who are the leaders of the NAR? Contact the authors at HollyPivec.com. Find the book in our online store. To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.oneplace.com/donate/407/29
Jan Markell hosts authors Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett for the hour to reveal the troubling angle of the New Apostolic Reformation. This movement encourages the leadership of apostles and prophets, suggests they can bring heaven to earth, and promotes extra-biblical revelation. Should churches be playing their music, produced by Bethel Church, Hillsong, and more? Who are the leaders of the NAR? Contact the authors at HollyPivec.com. Find the book in our online store. To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.oneplace.com/donate/407/29
Jan Markell hosts authors Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett for the hour to reveal the troubling angle of the New Apostolic Reformation. This movement encourages the leadership of apostles and prophets, suggests they can bring heaven to earth, and promotes extra-biblical revelation. Should churches be playing their music, produced by Bethel Church, Hillsong, and more? Who are the leaders of the NAR? Contact the authors at HollyPivec.com. Find the book in our online store. To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.oneplace.com/donate/407/29
Jan Markell hosts authors Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett for the hour to reveal the troubling angle of the New Apostolic Reformation. This movement encourages the leadership of apostles and prophets, suggests they can bring heaven to earth, and promotes extra-biblical revelation. Should churches be playing their music, produced by Bethel Church, Hillsong, and more? Who are the leaders of the NAR? Contact the authors at HollyPivec.com. Find the book in our online store. To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.lightsource.com/donate/1472/29
Jan Markell hosts authors Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett for the hour to reveal the troubling angle of the New Apostolic Reformation. This movement encourages the leadership of apostles and prophets, suggests they can bring heaven to earth, and promotes extra-biblical revelation. Should churches be playing their music, produced by Bethel Church, Hillsong, and more? Who are the leaders of the NAR? Contact the authors at HollyPivec.com. Find the book in our online store. To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.lightsource.com/donate/1472/29
Counterfeit Kingdom with Holly Pivec and R. Douglas Geivett Back in 2017 (Episode 179) apologetics researcher Holly Pivec was our guest to talk about the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), a movement that claims new revelation from God and new apostolic authority that is binding on followers of Jesus everywhere. In this episode of the podcast we catch up with Holly and her co-author, Dr. R. Douglas Geivett, via a discussion of their latest book on the NAR, Counterfeit Kingdom: The Dangers of New Revelation, New Prophets, and New Age Practices in the Church. Currently on sale!! Please click the book's link.
The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is a popular and fast-growing new movement of Christians who emphasize signs and wonders and teach that God is giving new revelation through new apostles and prophets today. Some churches associated with those teachings have even become household names—you've probably heard of the widely influential Bethel Church, for example. But are NAR teachings consistent with the historic Christian faith? That's the question my guest today, Holly Pivec, seeks to answer in her new book, Counterfeit Kingdom: The Dangers of New Revelation, New Prophets, and New Age Practices in the Church, which she co-authored with Biola professor Douglas Geivett.Holly is a blogger, author, and speaker, as well as a pastor's wife and homeschooling mom. She has a master's degree in Christian apologetics from Biola University. She has coauthored three books about the New Apostolic Reformation and writes a popular blog, which you can read at hollypivec.com. Connect with Holly: www.hollypivec.comOrder Counterfeit Kingdom: https://www.amazon.com/Counterfeit-Kingdom-Revelation-Prophets-Practices/dp/1087757495My books:Faithfully Different: https://www.amazon.com/Faithfully-Different-Regaining-Biblical-Clarity/dp/0736984291/Talking with Your Kids about Jesus: https://www.amazon.com/Talking-Your-Kids-about-Jesus/dp/080107553XTalking with Your Kids about God: https://www.amazon.com/Talking-Your-Kids-about-Conversations/dp/0801075521Keeping Your Kids on God's Side: https://www.amazon.com/Keeping-Your-Kids-Gods-Side/dp/0736965084 Connect with me:Website and Blog: https://www.natashacrain.comFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/natashacrainauthor/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/natasharcrain/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/NatashaCrainAuthor
Greg answers questions about “replacement theology,” whether pro-life advocacy is wrong since if the children live, many will go to Hell, and whether there are still apostles in the church today (per “five-fold ministry”). Topics: Can you discuss “replacement theology” and give your opinions on that topic? (04:00) Is pro-life advocacy morally wrong since if the children live, many of them will go to Hell? (28:00) Are there still apostles in the church today (per “five-fold ministry”)? (45:00) Mentioned on the Show: Upcoming events with Stand to Reason speakers The Bible: Fast Forward by Greg Koukl Reality Student Apologetics Conference – September 23–24 in Orange County, CA; October 14–15 in Seattle, WA; November 11–12 in Minneapolis, MN; February 24–25, 2023 in Dallas, TX; March 24–25, 2023 in Philadelphia, PA; April 21–22, 2023 in Augusta, GA God's Super-Apostles: Encountering the Worldwide Prophets and Apostles Movement by Douglas Geivett and Holly Pivec