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The Crucial Conversation exists to have discussions that need to be heard. In our time and culture many topics have become taboo which has bled over into the church. This Podcast gives a voice to those who have experiences that need to be shared and speaks honestly about the questions many have. T…

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    Martha Andrews Story

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 25, 2022 54:31


    Last week we lost a dear friend of the show. This is her story.

    Episode 82: Nathaniel Urshan

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 11, 2021 113:15


    The Urshan name is a household name in the Apostolic movement. In this episode you will hear a lot of the back story and how the foundation began. Sit back, relax and enjoy another Crucial Conversation.

    Episode 81: We Got Interviewed? Thats a Change of Pace!

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 19, 2021 126:51


    Recently we had the host of the Sustaining Life Podcast reach out to us and ask us to be interviewed by them... Well, here is how that went.

    Episode 80: Kris Dillingham

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 22, 2021 82:21


    Pastor Kris Dillingham of Toledo Ohio shares his burden in this episode. Growing a church has nothing to do with numbers but the development of people. Hear his heart beat of reaching the broken unchurched urban neighborhoods of his city. A lot of spiritual growth in this episode, we hope you enjoy!

    Episode 79: David Ferrell

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 9, 2021 83:18


    David Ferrell pastors in Perth Andover, New Brunswick Canada. In this Episode he shares important wisdom that will truly be transformative to every listener no matter what your walk with God consist of. If you have ever wondered about time running out on your life, or wonder what in the world is God doing? Possibly even stress over the constant unknown in your relationship with God. This episode is exactly what you have been looking for. Enjoy!

    Episode 78: Mark Brown

    Play Episode Listen Later May 26, 2021 90:09


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    Episode 77: Clifton LeJeune

    Play Episode Listen Later May 18, 2021 104:11


    In this incredibly unique episode our guest, Clifton LeJeune talks about fear in depth that has had its grips on our nation and the world as a whole during the Covid-19 Pandemic. Hear how he has continued to build the kingdom through it all. He also dives into relationship matters that he and his wife, Paula, speak about all over the nation for marriage seminars. Thanks for tuning into another Crucial Conversation.

    Episode 76: Charity Gayle

    Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2021 61:57


    Charity Gayle houses a powerful voice which has a fresh yet reminiscent sound. She loves the Lord with fierce faith and has authored songs such as "Amen" "Enter In (Psalm 100)" "New Name Written Down in Glory" "Cleansed" and more. Charity grew up in a home full of worship and has been involved in ministry since she was a child. Charity is featured on The Emerging Sound records Volume 1 through 5. Her first solo album, ‘Lord, You are My Song' debuted at #1 in the Christian & Gospel genre and #20 in all genres in January 2018.   In this episode you will hear Charitys story from the very beginning, enjoy this episode!

    Episode 75: Raymond Woodward

    Play Episode Listen Later May 4, 2021 83:57


    This episode is incredibly crucial. Raymond Woodward delivered a masterpiece of a message at Because of the Times 2017 about the importance of who you surround yourself with. In this episode you will hear what the blessings will be or the ramifications can be depending who you spend your time with. Listen to this timely word dedicated to men and women of all generations. 

    Episode 74: Nathan Roberts

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 27, 2021 76:34


    Ministry comes in many different forms. Nathan Roberts calling takes him to places doing things he never imaged he would be doing. However, when God is involved some of the best fruits of our labor are produced. Hear his incredible story on ministry and how it developed him into that pastor he is today. 

    Episode 73: Paula LeJeune

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 20, 2021 69:15


    Scars come in many forms. Physically, Mentally and Emotionally. Listen to Paula LeJeune's story of being born a Siamese twin and being the one who survived not only a very rare surgery but an abusive childhood and growing up poor. Hear how her trust in God changes her story to one of finding true love, forgiveness and a brand new outlook on life. 

    Episode 72: Fazel Culbreath

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 12, 2021 69:41


    Bro. Fazel Culbreath is a bible study teacher extraordinaire. This week you will hear him give practical advice and share testimonies about teaching home bible studies. During this recording you will hear the power of God start to move. We are excited to share this very crucial conversation. 

    Episode 71: Adam Dozier and Kim Ramsey

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2021 65:26


    During the pandemic a lot of things were a reality check. Including realizing just how much we depended on our school system and Sunday school departments to teach our children. When the world stopped so did that learning for our kids. In this episode Adam Dozier and Kim Ramsey speak about their burden to not let the spiritual growth stop in our young generation. Together they wrote a Just for Kids bible study to help develop a relationship with God.

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    Episode 70: Scott Breedlove

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 23, 2021 91:44


    From addiction to grace. Scott Breedlove tells his story from how went from a life full of addiction to opening restoration houses. In this episode you will hear a story about how God spoke to him while he was in the middle of a shift bartending and knew INSTANTLY his life was about to change. 

    Episode 69: Denise Lee

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 9, 2021 74:10


    The words we speak are real. We have no idea how they really effect people. In this episode we speak to a licensed therapist who battled with spiritual abuse. Denise Lee shares her story with us in this conversation.

    Episode 68:Jeffery Brickle, Ph.D.

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 2, 2021 123:58


    Dr. Brickle teaches New Testament studies and Greek at UGST in Wentzville, Missouri. While his research interests are eclectic, he focus primarily on the confluence of Johannine Literature with Ancient Media Culture (orality/aurality, sound mapping, memory arts, literary and book culture, performance, spatiality, intertextuality). Along with his published dissertation, Aural Design and Coherence in the Prologue of First John (T&T Clark, 2012), He has contributed essays to The Fourth Gospel in First-Century Media Culture (T&T Clark, 2011), Rethinking the Ethics of John (Mohr Siebeck, 2012), Memory and Identity in Ancient Judaism and Early Christianity (SBL Press, 2014), Abiding Words: The Use of Scripture in the Gospel of John (SBL Press, 2015), and Sound Matters: New Testament Studies in Sound Mapping (Cascade, 2018). He also wrote and edit for more a general readership: The Apostolic Study Bible (New Testament editor & contributor), Handbook on the Gospels, and Handbook on the General Epistles and Revelation (co-authored). He earned degrees from Harvard University (A.L.B. in Religion), Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary (M.A. in Urban Ministry), and Concordia Seminary, St. Louis (Ph.D. in Biblical Studies). My professional memberships include Society of Biblical Literature, Society for Pentecostal Studies, and Institute for Biblical Research. In addition to 18 years teaching at UGST, He has also served as a full-time instructor at Gateway College of Evangelism, assistant pastor, full-time campus minister, lab administrator at Harvard University Department of Chemistry & Chemical Biology, and support staff at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. I've played the electric bass since 1976, hold an associates degree in music (Finger Lakes Community College), and studied bass at the Berklee College of Music in Boston. He grew up on a farm outside the small town of Phelps, New York

    Episode 67: Chad and Fallon Erickson

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2021 71:27


    This dynamic duo sits in on a conversation with us and explains their burden for reaching a generation through music. Their passion is 2nd to none. Enjoy this episode! 

    Episode 66: Mark Crowder

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2021 84:17


    Faith over Fear has been theme for the year of 2020. In a year unlike we've ever seen as a society Mark Crowder set out to change the perception of living with Faith instead of Fear. We speak with Mark about his most recent project he just recorded at his church in Ohio to his UPCI General Conference sessions. In this episode you will hear the heartbeat and future for what is in store for his ministry and how he coveys what God gives him. 

    Episode 65: Jeff Ready

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 2, 2021 66:10


    We often hear the stories of people who travel the world bringing the gospel to foreign tribes such as Africa, South America and Asia. Have you ever heard of anyone reaching out to the native tribes right here in North America? Jeff Ready has spent several years ministering to people from several different cultural backgrounds. Bro. Ready is a newly appointed missionary to Native Tribes right here in America and Canada. In this episode you will hear of his past experiences with tribes as well as look into the future of his ministry. This episode will give you a whole new perspective on reaching those who are in your city. 

    Episode 64: Brennan Claborn

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 26, 2021 79:49


    In this episode we sit down with evangelist Brennan Claborn to discuss a wide variety of crucial subjects. We discuss how to answer your calling, how to prepare, and how Covid-19 has changed the way some do church and how it has effected Bro. Claborn 

    Episode 63: Jeff Morgan

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 19, 2021 119:39


    In one of the most crucial conversations we have ever recorded, Pastor Jeff Morgan talks to us about being honest with ourself to begin the healing process. This is a must listen. Make sure you have a pen and paper handy this one is chalked full of wisdom that can't be forgotten!

    Episode 62: Use Your Voice!

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 11, 2021 50:10


    In this day in time we are living in, its most important to use your voice before it's too late. In this episode we talk about making sure you understand the importance of your testimony and how important it is to share it. Take on 2021 with a renewed passion!

    Episode 61: Shelia Textor

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 28, 2020 66:52


    Author of, Life after the mistake: New Beginnings. Sheila Textor tells about her life and why she wrote her book. The Church is full of broken people. Adultery and infidelity are no strangers to the people of God. Follow author Sheila Textor on her journey through the mistake and to new beginnings. This book shares a true story of a woman that had broken beginnings and hard middles, but God gave her a New Beginning. A raw story of of adultery in the confines of the Church. The Church is such a intimate setting and the closeness of individuals can sometimes be a pitfall for broken people. This book is all about God's redemptive power. He will right the wrongs, he will bring justice to the fallen. It's not meant to show no one in a bad way. It's only meant to show that life happens, mistakes happen, adultery happens. But God is merciful and his grace is so indescribable. You will feel each persons role. You will feel Shelly's brokenness and her pain. This book is the answer to anyone that has failed in any area. Especially in their walk with God. Enjoy this episode. HAPPY NEW YEAR!

    Episode 60: Tara Sanders Whittingham

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 14, 2020 83:20


    2020 has been a year to forget for the majority of us. In this episode our guest, Tara Sanders Whittingham has dealt with pain, loss, bitterness, loneliness but never lost sight of Gods promises in her life. Listen to hear incredible testimony on how to never ever give up no matter how hard or difficult your circumstances are because God has it completely in control.

    Episode 59: A Tribute to Rex Goforth

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2020 65:50


    November 2020 has been the hardest month possible for Host Tony Goforth. During day 2 of his 10 day quarantine Tony got word that his father, Rex Goforth had passed to his heavenly reward completely unexpected. Hear some of the stories of Pastor, Presbyter, Father, Grandfather, and Husband Rex Goforth that shows to be an incredible legacy told by his son, Tony. 

    Episode 58: Rebekah White

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 27, 2020 81:36


    Are opportunities not coming to you? Are you not where you want to be in life? Do you struggle to find spiritual fulfillment? There is nothing wrong with you, you just don't know who you are. In this episode we are going to discover who you are, cut out this comparison and develop the perfect combination of your abilities to see success. Enjoy this episode with author Rebekah White. 

    Episode 57: George Hurt

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 12, 2020 68:43


    Redemption is a word that is often criticized because its usually linked to a past. In this episode with Evangelist George Hurt we hear his story from facing life in prison to Gods redeeming grace. Hear how God used him in a super natural way in Prison to seeing the impossible in his ministry. This episode is an incredible journey that takes many different avenues. We also tackle a huge topic, What should the churches response to BLM be? Find out in this incredible episode!This Episode is brought to you by our awesome sponsors.The Drifted Drum Company: thedrifteddrum.com     Use Code: Crucial2020 for 20% offAnderson Heat and AirLife after the mistake Author Sheila TextorRow + Rea Boutique: rowreaboutique.com.    Use Code: CC20 for free shipping!

    Episode: 56 Steve Showalter

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2020 88:35


    Steve Showalter Pastors a church in Nebraska and has lived his life entirely in church and giving back to God. However that doesn't mean he doesn't struggle. Hear Pastor Showalters story on overcoming a pornography addiction from the age of 8 that lasted through a few years of marriage and how he overcame it and what he did to not only keep his ministry but his family together. Also, Check out Pastor Showalters book, Escaping Fantasy Land. You can find it at The Pentecostal Publishing House, Barnes and Nobel and Amazon today! Presenting Sponsors:Group 7:14. The Movement. The Jesus Rally 10.3.2020 4 PM Gates, TN.The Drifted Drum Company: thedrifteddrum.com     Use Code: Crucial2020 for 20% offAnderson Heat and AirLife after the mistake Author Sheila TextorRow + Rea Boutique: rowreaboutique.com.    Use Code: CC20 for free shipping!

    Episode 55: Dr. Robin Johnston

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 21, 2020 86:07


    Robin Johnston serves as the editor in chief and publisher for the United Pentecostal Church International. In addition he is the director for the Center for the Study of Oneness Pentecostalism as well as an adjunct professor at Urshan Graduate School of Theology. In this episode Bryan and Tony discuss the past, the present, and the future of the church and what we must do to make this next generation better than this one.  Presenting Sponsors:Group 7:14. The Movement. The Jesus Rally 10.3.2020 4 PM Gates, TN.The Drifted Drum Company: thedrifteddrum.com     Use Code: Crucial2020 for 20% offAnderson Heat and AirLife after the mistake Author Sheila TextorRow + Rea Boutique: rowreaboutique.com.    Use Code: CC20 for free shipping!

    Episode 54: Adam Avaritt

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 14, 2020 107:13


    Can God's grace change anyone? Can it save anyone? Can it save those who have hurt you?Can it save those with mental illness?Can the Grace of God save the life of a sinner a thousand miles away? Can God trust you to believe in restoration? Let's talk about it with guest Adam Avaritt.  Presenting Sponsors:The Drifted Drum Company: thedrifteddrum.com     Use Code: Crucial2020 for 20% offAnderson Heat and AirLife after the mistake Author Sheila TextorRow + Rea Boutique: rowreaboutique.com.    Use Code: CC20 for free shipping!

    Episode 53: Cylinda Nickel

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 23, 2020 57:33


    Cylinda has devoted her life and ministry to help people around the world, especially our Missionary families. However a few years ago an unexpected health crises tried to end all of that... but God. You are about to hear a story of divine healing and how even at deaths door, God used Cylinda to bring hope to those in need.

    Episode 52: Bobby Killmon

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2020 86:04


    Covid 19 has changed the normal. What should the church's response to Covid 19 be? In this session with Rev. Bobby Killmon he address specifically that. Live from Cornerstone Apostolic Church in White Hall, Arkansas. 

    Episode 51: Stacy Gaddy

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 10, 2020 56:59


    When you see people in everyday life, you have no idea what their story is. In this episode with Stacy Gaddy, you will hear of her incredible story of Gods protection in her life at a very early age and how it developed her into who she is today. With the world constantly changing, we hear how there is one constant in her life... Tune in to hear what that is. 

    Episode 50: Sue Kronenberger

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 19, 2020 57:03


    God can turn any mess into a beautiful picture of His grace. This episode will pull at your heartstrings and encourage you that it is possible to forgive those who have hurt you. Even if the don't seem to deserve it. In this episode Guest Sue Kronenberger tells her incredible story of molestation, rape, abuse and pain. Hear how God can truly turn any situation into a testimony. 

    Episode 49: 1 Year Anniversary Show

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 13, 2020 161:44


    Wow. It's been a year already! In this episode we go back and visit with some guests that made the first year of The Crucial Conversation a successful one. It's been quite a journey from Episode 1, and we can't wait to bring you another year. Thanks for being the best part of this podcast!59,300 Listeners. 50 states for listeners, 98 Countries, 7 Provinces, 50 interviewed guests, 6 states traveled to, 48 stories, and 1 year later.Thank you to all of those who have listened, and thank you to our sponsors for making it possible. 

    Episode 48: Dee Jay Shoulders

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2020 60:30


    Pain, Suffering, Depression... These are all real things that we all deal with but do not know how to overcome them. In this Episode Pastor Dee Jay Shoulders of Nashville TN explain his difficult journey that began with a vision from God that came in the form of a dream that wasn't something he had hoped to encounter. This episode will encourage, enlighten and truly bless your difficult situation. 

    Fathers Day Special Darrell Runyan

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 21, 2020 41:33


    Happy Fathers Day! We wanted to bring to you a very special episode this fathers day, in this episode you will hear Bryan and Tonys Pastor, Rev. Darrell Runyan preach a Fathers Day Sermon at The Pentecostals of Jonesboro entitled, Mighty but a Little Messed Up. Enjoy this special episode!

    Episode 47: Bishop Gary Ellis

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2020 76:55


    "No one will deny your hurt, and neither should you." In these trying times where we are facing racial division in our country, Bishop Ellis openly talks about how the church and America can heal the pain of racism and bigotry. 

    Episode 46: Andrew Coffield

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2020 60:51


    Covid 19 Survivor, Andrew Coffield talks with us about what it was like going from a competitive basketball game, to being put on a ventilator to being told you are a miracle. Gods plans are bigger than ours and far exceed what doctors may think is a hopeless situation. Listen to his incredible testimony. MIRACLES STILL HAPPEN!

    Episode 45: Jacqueline St Clair

    Play Episode Listen Later May 17, 2020 69:34


    Redemption is described as the action of saving or being saved from sin, error, or evil by Websters Dictionary. In this episode you will hear how accurate this description truly is. Jacqueline St Clair from Albuquerque, New Mexico. Her life was unlike any other from a very early age which took her into body building, modeling and posing for Playboy and then all of a sudden a change of heart leading her to God and into a roll of Pastors wife. Hear her incredible testimony uncut and unchanged. This is truly a Crucial Conversation! A BIG thank you to our continued sponsors:The Drifted Drum Company: www.thedrifteddrum.com/crucial Anderson Heat and Air: 870-926-8700Lazzari Italian Oven: 870-931-4700Doug Klinedinst: www.douglasklinedinst.com/my-books

    Episode 44: Douglas Klinedinst

    Play Episode Listen Later May 4, 2020 62:16


    A pioneer of faith, an evangelist to the world, a man who is used in the gifts of the spirt. These are all words that describe Rev. Doug Klinedinst. Hear his story on how he went from Pastoring a church to being an evangelist to the world, seeing hundreds of thousands receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost. Enjoy this episode!

    Episode 43: Joe Hanthorn

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 19, 2020 79:55


    Redemption: What does it mean?In this episode we learn exactly what redemption means. Listen to Pastor Joe Hanthorns story about being being incarcerated in a maximum security prison, to Pastoring a very successful church. When hope is all you have, you hold on to it. Enjoy another Crucial ConversationWe apologize about the sound quality. We hope to get back on the road to be able to record with our guest in person again. Covid-19 we pray will be over soon and we can bring to you unmatched quality yet again!

    Episode 42: Martha Andrews

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2020 59:31


    Pain, Bitterness, hurt, depression and tragedy is real. Hear Martha Andrews story about the loss of her child and what she had to do to overcome. Its not easy and it most certainly isn't done quickly. Joy comes in the morning, but how long is the night? Here is the answer. Enjoy

    Episode 41: Tony Spell

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 27, 2020 68:52


    In case you have been living under a rock, the 2020 has been a roller coaster ride. The world is facing a virus we have never seen before, and with this pandemic there has been stay at home orders and business and churches closing to try to slow the spread of Covid-19. However one Pastor hasn't and he has been under scrutiny for it. Today we bring to you that Pastor, Pastor Tony Spell of Baton Rouge, LA. Hear his story and why he has chosen to keep the doors of his church open with gatherings as large as 1,800 people. Thanks for listening to The Crucial Conversation Podcast.Feel free to leave us an email at: thecrucialconversation@gmail.comHere is a BIG episode!

    Episode 40: Richard Lee

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 22, 2020 71:00


    We know you are stuck at home with nothing to do so we thought, Why not release our episode early! In this Episode you will hear Pastor Richard Lee of Caruthersville, Mo talk to us about what's going on in his church, and how he asked God to send him the rejected people and God did just that. We also hear the story of how his church was overtaken by a tornado and how his son was faced with everyones greatest fear. Cancer. Enjoy another Episode of the Crucial Conversation Podcast!Feel Free to leave us an email at: thecrucialconversation@gmail.comFind us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.Like, Comment, and Subscribe!Leave us a 5 Star review and if it is less than a 5 Star, leave it on our Good friend, Rick Lovalls podcast: Something to think about! Find it on all podcast platforms today!

    Episode 39: Carlton Sherrill

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 15, 2020 84:45


    Carlton Sherrill shares his life story with the Crucial Conversation speaking open and honestly about the addiction, and heartbreaks he as overcome.  Today Bro. Sherrill works full time for the state of Missouri overseeing addiction recovery in south west Missouri.  As well as working in his local church's Breakthrough recovery. 

    Episode 38: Megan Najera

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 8, 2020 79:51


    Have you ever felt like you have lost all connection to Gods promises? You had no idea what to do after making mistakes that have felt like it cost you a relationship with God? In this Episode Megan Najera tells her story of grief confusion and redemption. Enjoy this Crucial Conversation.

    Episode 37: Peter Saindon

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2020 101:20


    **** WARNING ****This Episode contains Graphic content not intended for all audiences. Listener Discretion is HIGHLY suggested. We kindly ask you to not play this episode with children in the listening area without headphones!  In this episode, you will understand why we named this podcast, The Crucial Conversation.The content we talk about in this episode is unfiltered and very direct towards men who struggle with sexual addiction, pornography addiction and much much more with no restraint. We ask that you are incredibly open to this episode and understand that you don't have to fight this battle alone and you CAN win! 

    Episode 36: Aaron Soto

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2020 99:38


    Tony and Bryan sit down with Pastor Aaron Soto and discuss the spirit of fear and its different manifestations, sexual abuse, forgiveness and spiritual growth. This episode is packed with Godly wisdom. 

    Episode 35: Jeff Arnold

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 16, 2020 85:16


    In a prior episode we heard a guest tell us that he wises we could hear the stories of the pioneers of The Pentecostal movement. In this episode Tony and Bryan do specifically that. Hear the stories of Bro. Jeff Arnold from how he got in church to becoming who he is today and what and who shaped him. Serious questions are answered in this episode. Thanks for tuning in. 

    Episode 34: Jeremy Damesworth

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 9, 2020 72:17


    Jeremy Damesworth is Pastor of Christian Life Center of the Tri-Cities in Kingsport TN. In this episode we discuss a broad range of subjects including the passing of his mother and the lifestyle change to homosexuality of his father after many years of marriage. He teaches us how to overcome the difficulties life throws your way when they are unexpected. Enjoy this crucial conversation. 

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