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For a racer not all challenges are on the track. These challenges come in many forms. For Corey, becoming a Father has been a heartbreaking experience. But like all racers they don't stop when adversity hits. They press on. And in this case, he presses on to victory both on and off the track. Listen to this heartbreaking then heartwarming story of miracles and a life that loves to persevere.

On this episode of UAB Green and Told, we are joined by Dr. Corey Wiggins, executive director of the Mississippi Conference NAACP. As Corey will share, he grew up in rural Mississippi surrounded by a strong support system. For Corey, his journey to 2 UAB degrees came after a stop in Washington DC. As he'll explain, his experience there helped reshape his career path. Plus, as someone who deals with public policy, he'll talk about how UAB fits into what he's doing now.

Jonathan (@berkreviews) and Corey (@coreyrstarr) are both big fans of many of the Coen's films, but both still have some gaps in their filmography. In fact, by the end of this month Jonathan will have completed viewing all of the directed films by the brother duo, an accomplishment he's been waiting on for a couple of years. For Corey, it's a chance to check off two major early films from the Coen's that she just hadn't gotten around to watching...until now. As far as the podcast goes, each episode features an in-depth review of the movie for the week. They begin with a spoiler-free review before diving in completely after the needed spoiler warning. However, before getting into the review of the week, Jonathan and Corey discuss what other movies they've seen since the last episode as well as anything else they feel like discussing. To help them decide which of the many films to watch each month they started creating themes for them all. Week 5: Raising Arizona (1987) The last movie on the Coen's filmography for Jonathan to check off is also one of their oldest, Raising Arizona (1987). The iconic comedy stars Nicolas Cage, Holly Hunter, and Trey Wilson seems to be full of Coen style with humor and crime mingling together. The plot reads, "When a childless couple of an ex-con and an ex-cop decide to help themselves to one of another family's quintuplets, their lives become more complicated than they anticipated." --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berkreviewscom-moviecasts/support

Jonathan (@berkreviews) and Corey (@coreyrstarr) are both big fans of many of the Coen's films, but both still have some gaps in their filmography. In fact, by the end of this month Jonathan will have completed viewing all of the directed films by the brother duo, an accomplishment he's been waiting on for a couple of years. For Corey, it's a chance to check off two major early films from the Coen's that she just hadn't gotten around to watching...until now. As far as the podcast goes, each episode features an in-depth review of the movie for the week. They begin with a spoiler-free review before diving in completely after the needed spoiler warning. However, before getting into the review of the week, Jonathan and Corey discuss what other movies they've seen since the last episode as well as anything else they feel like discussing. To help them decide which of the many films to watch each month they started creating themes for them all. Week 4: Barton Fink (1991) Barton Fink (1991) is next up for Corey and it happens to be a favorite of Jonathan's. John Turturro returns in the lead role alongside John Goodman and Judy Davis this time as "a renowned New York playwright is enticed to California to write for the movies and discovers the hellish truth of Hollywood." --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berkreviewscom-moviecasts/support

Jonathan (@berkreviews) and Corey (@coreyrstarr) are both big fans of many of the Coen's films, but both still have some gaps in their filmography. In fact, by the end of this month, Jonathan will have completed viewing all of the directed films by the brother duo, an accomplishment he's been waiting on for a couple of years. For Corey, it's a chance to check off two major early films from the Coen's that she just hadn't gotten around to watching...until now. As far as the podcast goes, each episode features an in-depth review of the movie for the week. They begin with a spoiler-free review before diving in completely after the needed spoiler warning. However, before getting into the review of the week, Jonathan and Corey discuss what other movies they've seen since the last episode as well as anything else they feel like discussing. To help them decide which of the many films to watch each month they started creating themes for them all. Week 3: The Hudsucker Proxy (1994) It may be clear that Jonathan avoided some of the Coen's comedies with his second pick and gap being The Hudsucker Proxy. Starring Tim Robbins, Paul Newman, and a MC favorite Jennifer Jason Leigh, the film is about "A naive business graduate is installed as president of a manufacturing company as part of a stock scam." --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berkreviewscom-moviecasts/support

Jonathan (@berkreviews) and Corey (@coreyrstarr) are both big fans of many of the Coen's films, but both still have some gaps in their filmography. In fact, by the end of this month, Jonathan will have completed viewing all of the directed films by the brother duo, an accomplishment he's been waiting on for a couple of years. For Corey, it's a chance to check off two major early films from the Coen's that she just hadn't gotten around to watching...until now. As far as the podcast goes, each episode features an in-depth review of the movie for the week. They begin with a spoiler-free review before diving in completely after the needed spoiler warning. However, before getting into the review of the week, Jonathan and Corey discuss what other movies they've seen since the last episode as well as anything else they feel like discussing. To help them decide which of the many films to watch each month they started creating themes for them all. Week 2: Miller's Crossing (1990) One of Corey's biggest gaps is the beloved Miller's Crossing (1990). A good friend and podcast collaborator Michael Sanchez recommended this years ago and Berk watched it during his initial run of 366 in 366. The film stars Gabriel Byrne, Albert Finney, John Turturro (another Coen regular), and others in this gritty crime drama. "Tom Regan, an advisor to a Prohibition-era crime boss, tries to keep the peace between warring mobs but gets caught in divided loyalties." --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berkreviewscom-moviecasts/support

Jonathan (@berkreviews) and Corey (@coreyrstarr) are both big fans of many of the Coen's films, but both still have some gaps in their filmography. In fact, by the end of this month Jonathan will have completed viewing all of the directed films by the brother duo, an accomplishment he's been waiting on for a couple of years. For Corey, it's a chance to check off two major early films from the Coen's that she just hadn't gotten around to watching...until now. As far as the podcast goes, each episode features an in-depth review of the movie for the week. They begin with a spoiler-free review before diving in completely after the needed spoiler warning. However, before getting into the review of the week, Jonathan and Corey discuss what other movies they've seen since the last episode as well as anything else they feel like discussing. To help them decide which of the many films to watch each month they started creating themes for them all. Week 1: Intolerable Cruelty (2003) Jonathan picked the first of three Coen films with Intolerable Cruelty (2003). The film stars Coen regular George Clooney alongside Catherine Zeta-Jones in this quirky crime rom-com. IMDb.com's plot synopsis reads, "A beautiful gold digger matches wits with a shrewd Beverly Hills divorce lawyer who is increasingly attracted to her." --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berkreviewscom-moviecasts/support

Class of 1984 (1982) synopsis: “A new teacher at a troubled inner-city high school soon ends up clashing with the delinquent leader of a punk posse that runs the school.”This week on Podcasting After Dark we’re taking a trip down Zak’s memory lane with Class of 1984. For Corey, though, this is the first time he’s seeing the movie. Will he like Class of 1984 without any of Zak’s beloved nostalgia? Listen to the show and find out!Please rate and review us 5 stars on Apple Podcasts (aka iTunes)Patreon: patreon.com/podcastingafterdarkReddit: r/podcastingafterdarkFacebook: podcastingafterdarkInstagram: @podcastingafterdarkCorey on Instagram: @coreynationZak on Instagram: @zakshafferThis podcast is part of the BFOP Network———————Sponsored Links———————Casper.com - Click on the link and save 10% off your total order!

Guest profile Corey Hoffstein is a co-founder of and chief investment officer at Newfound Research, a firm founded in August 2008, which is a quantitative asset management firm specializing in risk-managed, tactical asset allocation strategies. At Newfound, Corey is responsible for portfolio management, oversight of research and communication of the firm’s views to clients. He received his degree in BS in computer science from Cornell University and finished his MS in computational finance from Carnegie Mellon University. Early investing foray – road to the fall Corey’s tale takes place about a decade ago when he was starting out in investing. He thought he had erased the details of its telling as it was such a painful episode of this life. He believed he was playing his part with considerable research on the world of investing, starting with titles such as Benjamin Graham’s Security Analysis and The Intelligent Investor and anything available by Warren Buffett. From this he became engrossed in the analysis of individual securities and developed the idea that the “real” opportunity was in micro-cap stocks, finding that special stock no one had found and holding it until the market realizes that one is a genius.   Green investor’s vision blurred in the Internet’s salad days As an impressionable young investor in the days when the Internet was also young, he was greatly taken by all these investment boards, some prominent and large, some with a dozen or so members, all completely anonymous people sharing ideas with one another. In the sort of blind date equivalent of seeking financial advice, he got to know the people, their investment styles, their stock picks and, eventually, that they could be totally making it all up. But, he built a measure of trust in this hidden little world and on one such board a hot tip was suggested, a pink-sheets, over-the-counter (OTC) stock in a company known as Deep Down Incorporated (DPDW.PK, DPDW.US). DPDW is (still) a deep-sea oil exploration and production-services-related company that builds underwater umbilical cords and submarine drones to explore wells. It either leases or sells such technology to big companies.   ‘Underdog target for a buyout’ thesis means ‘gold’ in the offing His thesis was that there was a great R&D operation, a company that is always one big deal away from being “not just profitable, but ultra-profitable” and a sure-thing target for a buyout – The underdog team dealing with big-league industry players. For a time, his “inside scoop” delivered some joy as the stock’s price climbed in a short period, and he took the bait.   “People on these web forums are claiming they’re talking to the CEO and they’re sharing the inside scoop and so you really feel like you have your pulse on it. In retrospect, I didn’t have my pulse on anything but I thought I did and so I watched the stock climb from say 40 cents to 80 cents and I think: ‘You wanna know what? This is happening!’ One of those situations where price confirmed my narrative that probably should’ve been a sign, I probably should have dug a little deeper, didn’t even really understand the fundamentals I was getting involved in. This was pure story-driven investing and I bought. I then watched the stock go from about 80 cents to about a US$1.20.” - Corey Hoffstein   Early success on half-baked research spells peril Corey believes now that these types of early gains are among the worst things that can happen when an investor has made an ill-conceived investment because it ramps up their overconfidence gene and they become so attached to belief in their own abilities. Corey was no exception. Equating luck with genius, and ignoring his own profit target, he said to himself again:   “You wanna know what? The story’s only getting better … now I think we’re going to get to $5”. - Corey Hoffstein   His perceived future was getting rosier because the price was supporting all the myths he had built around the stock. So instead of taking some risk off the table, and banking his gains, he ploughed more funds back in. He then saw the stock price decline. Again he interpreted this as other people taking profit, some pain before the big, long-term gain. But it kept sliding. Did he stop? No. Rather, he thought:   “You wanna know what, this is a buying opportunity. So not only did I buy at the top, I then doubled down on the way down, which you know, again, in retrospect, is not such a smart move because I really didn’t at all understand what I was buying. And then it just continued to dwindle and it probably got back to around 40 cents and stayed at 40 cents.” - Corey Hoffstein   By this time, Corey was so appalled that he stopped checking the price. After three or four years, it was still at 40 cents and he finally let it go. He added that it was not actually his worst investment by dollar value but it was a case in which he made every mistake textbooks say he could have. What is a ‘penny stock trading on a pink sheet’? A pink sheet is a type of stock that is not trading on the main exchanges, such as The New York Stock Exchange or the Nasdaq and therefore it does not meet the regulatory and exchange requirements to be listed on the main courses. It is also OTC traded, which means it is very illiquid (difficult to sell and turn into cash). And if trusting in web-forum strangers’ was not bad enough, Corey invested in a penny stock. Rather than seeing this as a red flag at the start, it was instead was one of the main reasons that the stock seduced him to invest in it. His belief was that such a stock offered more opportunity for upside. But the turn of events proved otherwise.   Corey’s Takeaways 1. Invest in a manner that aligns with your personality, both the positives and the negatives. If you are someone who truly enjoys the process of understanding company fundamentals, a more discretionary value approach can be totally warranted and appropriate. For Corey personally, he had to see the negative side, which was that he was quite vulnerable to a stock’s story, which thus put him at risk of being an emotional investor. His takeaway, in essence, was what makes him more successful today in that it drove him to find a way to invest in an unemotional manner. How did he do that? 2. Adopt a fully quantitative methodology. This is one you can control from A to Z and would certainly ensure that you are not going to be drawn in and seduced by your own emotions. “Everything I do today is quant. It’s not quant because I’m a robot. I’m quant because I’m emotional and I need those rules to make sure I stay on the straight and narrow.” - Corey Hoffstein 3. Recognize that mistakes are going to happen with investing. It is impossible to avoid all mistakes, even when you are very knowledgeable and aware of them. You are working without all the information, you cannot know who is necessarily on the other side of a trade. It is very important to always consider that you are going to be wrong, and not just wrong once, but many times. Survival, ultimately, is key.   Andrew’s Takeaways The team at A.Stotz investment and Andrew have identified six core mistakes that investors make. Corey made three (although he feels his story could cover them all). 1. Failed to do their own research. We never in the world of investing would invest without doing our own research. 2. Failed to properly assess risk. Risk, as he often says, is a separate item. In this case, there were the risks to liquidity and the structures that were insufficiently put in place and then ignored for the moment that the shares started going down and the investor's response to that moment. 3. Misplaced trust. Corey placed trust in an anonymous forum where people can be releasing different stories for different reasons. They could have neither been investing themselves nor risking anything in what they were proposing and that Corey had no way of knowing it. He pointed out that there are honest people who are sharing their investment experience on the Internet and they are just unable to share it accurately. “I looked on your (Corey’s) website and I see that you’re GIPS® compliant with the CFA, the Global Investment Performance Standard. And basically what GIPS® compliance requires is that you look at your complete portfolio, of all your different asset classes. You don’t omit things that you don’t want to put in.” - Andrew Stotz Even good investors engaging with these types of web boards or groups on sites such as Facebook groups and other types of groups, even good people, find out how it is hard for them to be truthful.   “That doesn’t even consider the liars and the cheaters out there that are everywhere. And I can’t tell you the number of times that people have come to me about how they’re starting to trade in forex. We did have one story already on my worst investment ever where he lost most of his money trading in forex. But I just think of all areas, you know, forex, I just think you’re betting against the central banks of the world. And what’s your angle?” - Andrew Stotz Final words from Corey 1. Investors should really make sure they are well diversified. They should also think about all the ways that a trade can go against them and their criteria for cutting losses. 2. It’s not going to be your only bad trade. You’re going to make many throughout your career. It’s not about not making them. It’s making sure you can survive them. How to avoid having the same fate “Don’t buy penny stocks based on someone else’s recommendation.” “First and foremost acknowledge your own weaknesses. For me, that very much meant acknowledging that I could be very much drawn in by a narrative, was clearly willing to make mental shortcuts in my analysis and allow others to do the work for me at that point in my investing career. And so I wanted to make sure that could never happen again.” Final words from Andrew “There’s great people out there, men and women who can find great investment ideas and make a ton of money from them without having all the structures in place. But for me, it makes me feel better. And I think the best thing in investing is that there’s space in investing for everybody with every style. So find your style and implement your style.” - Andrew Stotz   Resources from Andrew Stotz:  How to Start Building Your Wealth Investing in the Stock Market  My Worst Investment Ever  9 Valuation Mistakes and How to Avoid Them      Connect with Corey Hoffstein: thinknewfound.com LinkedIn Twitter   Connect with Andrew Stotz: astotz.com LinkedIn Facebook Instagram Twitter YouTube My Worst Investment Ever Podcast

GUEST BIO: Corey Quinn has been an engineering manager, a public speaker and an advocate for cloud strategies.  He now specializes in helping companies control and cost optimize their AWS cloud footprint without disrupting the engineers using it. EPISODE DESCRIPTION: Phil’s guest on today’s show is Corey Quinn, who is a cloud economist, consultant, business owner, blogger and podcaster. His early career was spent as a system administrator. He later moved into DevOps. Today, he is a consultant who specializes in creating cost-optimized AWS cloud solutions that work efficiently, despite the fact that the cost of running them has been cut drastically. KEY TAKEAWAYS: (00.28) – So Corey, can you expand on that brief introduction and tell us a little bit more about yourself. Corey explains that he is a cloud economist. He started as an assistant systems administrator, which is the equivalent of an SRE, doing both individual contributor work and managing teams. But, for the last couple of years he has run his own AWS consultancy company. His main service is fixing the huge AWS bills that many companies end up with. More recently, he has become for his Last Week in AWS newsletter, which pulls together what is happening in the Amazon cloud ecosystem. At this point gives an important tip. Making fun of giant companies will make you less employable than you think. He also runs the Screaming in the Cloud podcast. (2.09) – Phil asks Corey for a unique IT career tip, one the audience probably does not already know. Corey says it is important not to lose sight of how valuable you are to the business. Being able to understand and prove your true value will really help the next time there are layoffs. So, it is wise to get into the habit of tracking that type of data. (3.16) – Phil asks how someone who cannot easily visualize their monetary value to the people they work for and how they would go about evaluating their true worth. Corey says that the best way he has found to do that is to speak to people within the company and outside about his role. Doing this has enabled him to get some perspective. He has been able to see how they think his type of role benefits a business and how it adds value. Finding a mentor helps too, they will also provide insight into this. You can also ask your boss how the company realizes the benefit of having you there. Don’t be afraid of asking this question. Doing so enables you to better understand your role and be able to fill it more effectively. It stops you from focusing on things the company does not ascribe much value to. Things they are not really interested in your taking care of for them. (4.48) – Corey is asked to share his worst career moment by Phil. Corey has a reoccurring moment. He has been “let go” several times and being fired never feels good, especially when you don’t see it coming. Over the years, Corey has been let go five or six times. Usually, because he was misaligned with what the business found valuable. He was just not focusing on what they wanted to have done. However, in some cases, it was a cultural mismatch that led to him being fired. Being let go hurts and can make you feel like you are a loser, even though you are not. But, on the flip side you usually end up feeling relieved, liberated even. (6.52) – Phil asks Corey if being fired has become any easier, over the years. Corey explains that it has gotten easier in that he knows what to do next. But, emotionally it is still hard. This is despite the fact that he knows every job comes to an end, at some point. In reality, you are either going to leave, because you are no longer a good fit, or your company is going to let you go, for the same reason. It is a fact of life. Besides which if you are no longer a good fit, continuing to work for that company is not good for you or your employer. Despite that, being told you have been fired is still painful. (7.53) - Have you ever experienced a situation where perhaps the company has moved on and the role that you're performing is no longer as valuable as it was previously? In Corey’s case, this has usually happened because the role has shifted radically. This has definitely been the case when he has joined a company during its early days. What a firm needs doing during start-up is very different from what they require once they are fully up and running. Corey enjoys fixing problems and turning things around. But, once everything is settled and he has to switch to take care of mundane day-to-day tasks he quickly gets bored. When that happens, it is best for him to move on quickly. (9.12) – Phil asks Corey what his best career moment was. For Corey that has definitely been helping a friend of his to grow her career. Over the years, she has regularly sought advice from him. Today, she credits him with some of her success. Corey gets more of a sense of achievement from having helped her than he does from saving companies large sums of money or help them to recover from problems. (10.28) – Can you tell us what excites you about the future of the IT industry and careers? The fact that the barrier of entry is lowering is exciting. Now, anyone with a credit card and ten bucks can implement their business idea in the cloud. They can easily set up a test lab at home. You no longer have to spend a fortune like Corey did, years ago, when setting up a simple mail server meant buying lots of expensive equipment. (11.39) – Phil agrees he is seeing more companies use the cloud as their long-term IT solution. Business owners seem to be far less concern about potential security issues. He asks Corey if he has seen the same thing happening. Corey he agrees, but explains that he occasionally comes across firms who are worried about data security. But, when he reminds them that the tax authorities, banks and other big organizations use the technology, most understand that the risk is low. Typically, they decide to make the change and move to the cloud. (13.17) – What first attracted you to a career in IT, Corey? At one time, Corey worked as an IT recruiter. Eventually, he got tired of placing people in roles he knew he could do a better job of. So, 14 years ago, he figured he would give IT a try and significantly increase the amount he was earning. He certainly earned more, with the added bonus that he really enjoyed the work. (13.41) – What is the best career advice you have received? “Talk less, listen more”. It is something Corey still struggles with doing. But, he is working at developing this skill and is getting better at listening. After all, “nobody ever listens themselves into having to apologize.” (14.33) – What career objectives are you currently focusing on? Corey says that would be continuing to grow his business. Currently, he is focusing on marketing and sales. Unfortunately, he no longer has the time to code much. (15.18) – What is the number one non-technical skill that has helped you the most in your IT career? For Corey it is storytelling. Telling a story about something in a way that resonates with your audience is a great skill to have. That is the case whether you are trying to convince a client, one of your peers or a colleague, of something. You have to engage with them in a way that resonates. When you learn to do that, it automatically becomes easier to speak publically, put together podcasts and participate at meetups. (16.30) – Phil asks Corey to share a final piece of career advice. Every three months, pull up your resume and update it. Add what you have done for the past three months and think about what you want to add the next time you review your resume. If you find that you have nothing to add for the last three months, work out why that is. Make sure that you don’t stall your career. The last thing you need is to end up working for a company for 15years, yet only gain one year of experience. It is all easy to slip into the tap of doing the same thing year in, year out and end up stagnating. Reviewing your resume every three months will ensure that you are always intentional with your career choices. BEST MOMENTS: (1.38) COREY – “First career tip don’t make fun of giant companies. It makes you less employable than you'd think.” (2.19) COREY – “Make sure you don't lose sight of the business value that you provide to your employer” (10.12) COREY – “Saving clients, large piles of money, sort of pales in comparison to having helped someone develop in their career.” (15.20) COREY – “Regardless of what it is you're doing, you need to be able to tell a story about it in a way that resonates with the business.” (16.13) PHIL “Stories are a fantastic way to communicate ideas and really communicate the solutions as well.” CONTACT COREY: Twitter: https://twitter.com/QuinnyPig @QuinnyPig LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/coquinn/ Website: https://www.linkedin.com/in/coquinn/

Tony sits down this week to talk about what really matters with podcaster, producer, and former missionary Cory Pigg. Corey gave us one of the most vulnerable interviews we have ever had on The Threshold. We talk about deconstruction, missionary work, FLOAT TANKS, and Jesus, and more. You can hear all that and more in the episode, but you can also hear me talk to Corey about what you should do before going on mission over on our Patreon Page as bonus content. https://www.patreon.com/thethresholdpodcast Also we are excited to add Gabby Banzon to our team for her first episode. If you know Gabby give her a high five and if not check her out online at https://www.gabbybanzon.com or at https://www.novumcollective.co/. For Corey's podcast Failed Missionary you can visit https://www.failedmissionary.com or click Here (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/failed-missionary/id1200350142?mt=2)to listen. Corey quotes some amazing quotes from Ram Dass find out more about Ram over at https://www.ramdass.org/. Share this episode from our Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/TheThresholdPodcast) to help get the word out, or you can tweet it from our post over at @Threshpod (https://twitter.com/Threshpod) on twitter. Sharing the show helps us more than about anything. If you want to talk about what you took away from this week's conversation please join our Facebook group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThresholdDiscussion Just like always you can check out Catholic Balm Co and use the code KNOCKKNOCK to get 10% off. https://catholicbalm.co/ You can use the same code KnockKnock over at Plus One Balms https://PlusOneBalms.com for balmy goodness or download the first RPG I ever made at http://plusonegames.com/beards. We also have great music for our show from Joe Garofalo. You can find his site over at https://www.joegarofalomusic.com Johnny Isorena does the cover art for each episode. He is on staff for The Threshold and a number of our other projects. Special Guest: Corey Pigg.

The guest today is Corey Coates from The Podcast Producers. Choosing the right medium for your content Corey’s experience has shown him that you have to make a decision as to who is going to be the one actually telling the story before you decide whether or not to do a narrative style. When doing narrative podcasting, people usually imagine as the narrator that they are “telling” the story, but the reality is a really good narrative podcast is one where the story is being told by the participants and almost unfolds on its own. There’s clearly a choice to guide the story in a certain direction, to edit in a certain way and to present the story that you might want to tell but before you even think about why you want to do it, ask “who is going to be responsible for telling the story?” A lot of people are interested in the method of doing it this way largely because of the popularity of some narrative podcasts. When you listen to RadioLab or Serial, they sound beautiful and they’re fun to listen to. Corey knows how attractive that idea can be, but doing it just because a lot of the most popular shows or the ones you enjoy are in that fashion doesn’t necessarily mean that’s what you should do. Choosing the right medium for your content is critical. If you’re trying to bring pure information from individuals to individuals, maybe the interview format is the way to go. If you are trying to demonstrate, as Corey and Jessica did in The Podcast Producers, that there’s a lot of experts, information and ways to look at the exact same thing, then maybe the narrative way of going is better for you. Ultimately it comes down to deciding ‘who is telling the story and what is the story being told?’ and then choosing the format that goes around that. Start with the story arc It always starts with the story arc. From beginning to end, what is the story you want to tell? Decide how you will subdivide that into chapters, which can become the episodes. For The Podcast Producers, Corey and Jessica knew they wanted to do 10 episodes, because it was a time constraint and prevented the project expanding for the rest of the year. From beginning to end they brainstormed a ton of questions or topics, what would be a logical order to arrange topics, and who might they be able to talk to on some of those subjects. It was about the questions Corey, Jessica and their community had, who are some of the people that might be able to provide the answers, and then how can you link one answer to the next, or one question to the next answer that takes someone through the journey but most importantly leaves them where we want them to be, which is wanting more. When you get to the end of it, there’s conclusions and ideas but nothing is really conclusive. Choosing interview subjects Corey and Jessica specifically targeted certain individuals for their knowledge base and their experience in the industry. It’s tough because in a lot of cases you have folks that are the most vocal and prominent, that may not necessarily be the ones with the best information, they’re just the loudest so they tend to get the most attention. Having been in the industry for 10 years and 3 years respectively, Corey and Jessica were able to tell whether folks were really legit, they know their stuff, and they’re really making a contribution, or if they were jokers and they’re coming in marketing themselves but not really having the skills needed. So they laser pointed their pitches and ended up getting 95% of the people they wanted. The 5% that didn’t were often the ‘shot in the dark’ people, and usually the reason was that their schedules wouldn’t allow it or it wasn’t going to fit Corey’s production schedule. Corey’s advice is that the more specific you go towards somebody as a guest, having knowledge of who they are and their background, the more likely they are to agree because they know that you’re not just coming at you with a form letter that you send to everyone but that it’s a personalized request. If you blast to everyone in an industry, that shows people that you don’t care who they are, you are just taking who you can get. Corey strongly advises against that. Word of mouth types of referrals can also be great, even if then you are cold calling those folks, because you can tell them who recommended them to you. For season 2 of The Podcast Producers, they already have a great list of guests, most of whom have come through referrals this way, but that has happened over time as they built their reputation in the industry. Tips for interviewing and sticking to the story arc Ultimately when interviewing, Corey is always looking for sound-bites. He wants the two or three good phrases out of the guest in a 20-30 minute conversation that are going to be usable. Sometimes there are surprise elements in the interviews. There were times when Corey planned to interview a guest on a topic, but ended up going off track and talking about other aspects of podcasting and those sections became the gold that often fit into other topics. His advice is to play a little bit fast and loose. In interviews for a narrative podcast you can get away with it because it’s not a show where the person you are interviewing is the sole guest for the one episode. As an interviewer, you don’t have to be ‘on’. You don’t have to ask the immaculate questions, perfectly phrased, and the guests don’t have to give you that perfectly phrased answer that leads from beginning to end of the show like you would in an interview format. Corey does suggest that as the interviewer, you have to speak less. Ask a question, then allow the guest to speak. After they finish the answer, just pause for 2 seconds, and you’ll see almost every time that the guest will elaborate. And the second thing they say is almost always more profound than the original answer that you got. Finding the gold in the editing process Corey believes the hardest thing to do for any editor is to edit, especially when it’s their own show. As podcasters, we are the control room, the editor, the producer, the distributor, the marketing personality, all at the same time. It makes it difficult to be objective when making some of these choices. It’s important to find a way to put things in perspective to who that audience is going to be. Start editing and cutting, not from your own perspective and the things that you like, but the things that are going to be the most valuable to that listener. Of course you, the podcaster, will understand the topics but if your guest is using a lot of industry jargon or buzzwords, it’s important to think about whether the listener will understand. If the answer is that most people wouldn’t understand what that is, Corey says, “cut it, you don’t need it!” On the cutting room floor When interviewing, Corey suggests you try to save yourself time down the road. When you get an ‘aha’ moment during the interview, time-stamp it. It was an emotional moment for you and that could then translate well to be an emotional moment for the listener. What you’re able to then is take some of those emotional markers and start putting them into bins and experiement with arranging them around. As you’re doing that, you only have to go and look for the little 5-10% pieces of audio that represent linking the pieces together. That is really the trick: creating the entire story to the best of your ability based on only components provided by your guests. Everything in between that can’t be linked and doesn’t make sense is where the narrator jumps in to get people from point A to point B to point C. Corey feels that repurposing audio is a great way to go, and with The Podcast Producers, they intentionally did 20-30 minute interviews with podcasters for this purpose. Partly it was because they didn’t want to take up more than 30 minutes of anyone’s time, but it was also because at the end of it they got a weekly 30-minute long form podcast with somebody within the industry. Having finished producing the entire 10 part series and doing all the marketing necessary to get it out there, he can then start pulling these to release as episodes, raw and uncut. It keeps subscribers happy because they’re now getting weekly content, fans of the series are happy because they love the ‘behind-the-scenes’ stuff, and the editors are enjoying it because it’s a chance to see it in the raw perspective before it ends up in the polished product. Tracking and transition techniques Everyone has their own approach and every producer has their own flair. For Corey, it’s very simple: he’s always looking for wording to match. When something that one person says can naturally lead to something that someone else said, and those two things can be put together that is a win in narrative audio. Then you don’t need music, transitions, narration or anything fancy. It’s just letting the spoken word tell the story. In many cases it doesn’t always fall that way because it is largely unscripted material so we have to find a way to bridge from one to the other, which is a good opportunity for a narrator to jump in, usually with a little bit of bed music under it. The music helps the listener to float in and out of the show when the narrator interrupts, but sometimes it’s also used in order to give the listener an appropriate amount of time to think about what was just said. If you can get two pieces of audio to stitch together naturally without having to do anything else to it, do that first. And if you have to get some narration in there, leave a little space, put a little music, give the narration and then go back into the content. Avoid Analysis Paralysis By his own admission, Corey is a proponent of the art of non-doing. He warns against getting overwhelmed by the amount of information that’s out there and getting locked into the research phase. He says just let the interviews flow, start getting the content in. In the meantime, start the hunt for your music. He suggests finding an individual composer so you have something that’s thematic that will work for the entire series. Then, see what happens!

Welcome to episode 44 of Podcast Junkies! Today we’ll be talking to Corey Coates. Corey is the founder of Podfly, a podcast production service, and the co-host and co-creator of The Podcast Producers. Corey is the kind of guy that says whatever is on his mind and so we should probably slap on an explicit warning here and there throughout the show. Hope you guys enjoy it and don’t forget to visit PodcastJunkies.com/iTunes to rate and subscribe. Show Highlights 04:40 – Marc Maron interviewing Obama broke the record for the most downloaded episode. 08:30 – Producing over-the-top radio commercials was a lot of fun. 14:30 – People seek out podcast content where as listening to radio is a lot more passive. 21:30 – For Corey, the length of the show is irrelevant. It’s over when it’s over. 22:05 – Corey explains what a stab, stinger, and liners are. 29:55 – Do we really need to be innovate in podcasting? Who’s innovating in blogging? 36:15 – What is The Podcast Producers? 47:10 – Listeners can tell when guests are speaking naturally and are not using their sales pitch. 50:40 – How did Podfly start? 55:30 – You can’t fake talent. If your show is awesome, your show will grow. 59:45 – Podcasts are not competing with other podcasts, they’re competing for a listener’s time. 01:04:00 – If you podcast, you have to be a Podcast Movement.   FULL SHOW NOTES: http://www.podcastjunkies.com/44★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★