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Welcome to Into the Deep, International Christian Concern’s official podcast, hosted by ICC President Jeff King. What is It? Into the Deep features stories from those who have lived for Christ and experienced His goodness even in the midst of incomprehensible suffering. Get the inside scoop on what’s really going on with Christian oppression around the world–despite the media blackout. By adding Into the Deep to your weekly rotation, you’ll be able to stay up to speed on the most important breaking news, geopolitical trends, and stories from our persecuted family on Into the Deep. Is it for Me? Into the Deep is not be for weak-willed, lukewarm, or faint of heart believer. On Into the Deep, you will hear from persecuted believers who have suffered for Christ as Mr. King takes you on a spiritual journey that is both motivational, heartbreaking, and insightful. Intended to not only provide informative news about the persecuted church, but also to transform your faith and grow your relationship with God. Where Can I find It? We’re spotlighting the plight of the persecuted church to make their stories and cause more accessible to Christians everywhere! Join us and head Into the Deep, free and available on popular podcast-streaming apps today!

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    • Sep 10, 2021 LATEST EPISODE
    • every other week NEW EPISODES
    • 33m AVG DURATION
    • 78 EPISODES


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    Episode 78: The Rise of Persecution in India

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 10, 2021 24:43


    Jeff King sits down with Will Stark, ICC's analyst for India. Since the BJP took control in 2014, the number of persecution incidents against Christians has skyrocketed. The post Episode 78: The Rise of Persecution in India appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 77: A Testimony of Faith

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 7, 2021 42:22


    Jeff King talks with Hedieh Mirahmadi, a former Muslim turned Christian who spent her professional career working with the FBI and the U.S. government, and in the private sector, to defeat Islamic terrorism. The post Episode 77: A Testimony of Faith appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 76: A Nation Championing Persecuted Christians

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2021 31:32


    Tristan Azbej is the State Secretary for the Aid of Persecuted Christians and the Hungary Helps Program. The post Episode 76: A Nation Championing Persecuted Christians appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 75: Religious Liberty in Crisis

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 17, 2021 43:02


    Ken Starr's career track record has one common message: America needs liberty. In his new book, Religious Liberty in Crisis, Starr explores the crises that threaten religious liberty in America. The post Episode 75: Religious Liberty in Crisis appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 74: Facing Jail for Posting Bible Verse

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 10, 2021 28:14


    Jeff King interviews Päivi Räsänen, a member of the Finnish Parliament for more than 25 years, about her experience facing religious persecution. The post Episode 74: Facing Jail for Posting Bible Verse appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 73: A Wake Up Call

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2021 16:58


    Mat Staver was a representative of a church who sued the state of California for the discriminatory lockdowns placed on churches at the beginning of the pandemic. The post Episode 73: A Wake Up Call appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 72: Advocating for the Persecuted

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 27, 2021 39:20


    Jeff King was recently interviewed by Lauren Jacobs from the Voice of Change podcast based in South Africa to talk about advocating for Christian religious freedom and why the IRF Summit is so important. The post Episode 72: Advocating for the Persecuted appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 71: A Lesson on the First Amendment

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 13, 2021 26:54


    Tanner Cross is a physical education teacher in Loudoun Country Public Schools, Virginia. After speaking out against transgender policies at a public school board meeting, he was soon put on administration leave. The post Episode 71: A Lesson on the First Amendment appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 70: United for Religious Freedom

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 6, 2021 29:36


    Jeff King interviews former United States Ambassador at Large for International Religious Freedom Sam Brownback to discuss the upcoming International Religious Freedom 2021 Summit. The post Episode 70: United for Religious Freedom appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 69: A Hidden Agenda (West Watch)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2021 71:35


    Is Canada taking advantage of the lockdowns to control religious practices? Jeff King sits down with viral Canadian pastor Artur Pawlowski The post Episode 69: A Hidden Agenda (West Watch) appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 68: Living in North Korea as a Christian

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 23, 2021 57:56


    In the second part of Jeff King's interview with North Korean defector Jinhye Jo, she talks about her time in the children's prison camps The post Episode 68: Living in North Korea as a Christian appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 67: Escaping North Korea

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 15, 2021 42:23


    Jeff King interviews Jinhye Jo, a North Korean defector. She tells her harrowing tale of escaping North Korea to China only to be brought back. The post Episode 67: Escaping North Korea appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 66: From the Field: An Attack on Christians in Indonesia

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 9, 2021 36:09


    Last November, members from a known radical Islamic group brutally attacked a Salvation Army post and killed four people. The post Episode 66: From the Field: An Attack on Christians in Indonesia appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 65: India’s COVID-19 Nightmare Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 2, 2021 48:50


    Jeff King sits down with Vijayesh Lal, the General Secretary of the Evangelical Fellowship of India, to talk about the current COVID-19 Crisis facing India. The post Episode 65: India's COVID-19 Nightmare Part 2 appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 64: India’s COVID-19 Nightmare Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later May 27, 2021 52:09


    Jeff King sits down with Vijayesh Lal, the General Secretary of the Evangelical Fellowship of India, to talk about the current COVID-19 Crisis facing India. The post Episode 64: India’s COVID-19 Nightmare Part 1 appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 63: Armenian Genocide 2.0?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 14, 2021 41:09


    Could it be that a second genocide at the hands of Turkey is on the horizon? The post Episode 63: Armenian Genocide 2.0? appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 62: President Biden Affirms the Armenian Genocide of 1915

    Play Episode Listen Later May 6, 2021 52:43


    Jeff King sits down with two ICC analysts on this issue as a roundtable discussion covering President Joe Biden recent statement affirming the Armenian Genocide of 1915. The post Episode 62: President Biden Affirms the Armenian Genocide of 1915 appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 61: Force, Suppression, and Cruelty

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 16, 2021 37:57


    In part 2 of Jeff King's interview with former undercover CIA agent Reza Kahlili, the two dive into the ideology of the Iranian leaders and what motivated their anti-religious freedom agenda. The post Episode 61: Force, Suppression, and Cruelty appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 60: The [Un]Holy Revolution

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 9, 2021 31:35


    Under the pseudonym of Reza Kahlili, a former Iranian Revolutionary Guard member worked as an undercover CIA agent in the 1980s and 1990s. The post Episode 60: The [Un]Holy Revolution appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 59: Wake Up to the Battle of the Church

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 2, 2021 42:22


    Retired three star general William Boykin and Jeff King sat down for an interview after General Boykin's speech at the Bridge Conference in 2016. The post Episode 59: Wake Up to the Battle of the Church appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 58: The Lord Gave Us Favor

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 19, 2021 41:28


    Frank and Joan Testa have been following and supporting ICC for over 20 years. Their mission to serve those who are most suffering exemplifies Christ's love in a way few people's life story can. Jeff King sits down with his long-time friend to discuss the fruit of his life's ministries. The post Episode 58: The Lord Gave Us Favor appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 57: Catching Up with Brother Rachid

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 5, 2021 25:57


    Jeff King revisits Brother Rachid, a famous televangelist to the Middle East, from Episodes 4 and 5 to see how his show is thriving amidst COVID and to hear stories about former Muslims coming to Christ through his T.V. show and past conferences. The post Episode 57: Catching Up with Brother Rachid appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 56: From Armenia to America Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2021 29:36


    Jeff King continues his conversation with two Armenian Genocide descendants to hear their story and to discuss the current political climate in Turkey. Jeff sits down with Anahit Khosroeva, a genocide scholar, to talk about her unique position as an Assyrian-Armenian genocide descendant as well as the insight of her work studying genocides. The post Episode 56: From Armenia to America Part 2 appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 55: From Armenia to America

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2021 37:03


    Jeff King sits down with two Armenian genocide descendants to hear their story and their perspective on the current events between Turkey, Azerbaijan, and Armenia. In part 1, Jeff sits down with Lucy, an attorney, to talk about the history of Nagorno-Karabakh (Armenian: Artsakh) and how the ideology of Turkey and Azerbaijan is infiltrating its way into America in the form of anti-Armenian hate crimes. The post Episode 55: From Armenia to America appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 54: In the Crosshairs of Genocide

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 5, 2021 42:47


    The first Christian nation is in trouble. Turkey has been slowly suffocating its Christian community since the 1915 genocide and denying every attempt to shine light on its dark past. Jeff King sits down with International Christian Concern's Middle East Analyst. Claire Evans, to take a deep dive into the geopolitics and religious history of the Turkey-Azerbaijan-Armenian area. The post Episode 54: In the Crosshairs of Genocide appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 53: Opening Doors

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 29, 2021 43:15


    In part 2, Daniel Shayesteh continues to take us on his and his family's faith journey. He also discusses how God is using the present-day situation with the Ayatollahs to spread the Gospel throughout Iran. The post Episode 53: Opening Doors appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 52: From Death (Row) to Life

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 22, 2021 37:39


    Reaching Muslims with love is Daniel Shayesteh's message. Dr. Shayesteh became a leading Muslim politician in northern Iran when he became involved in the Iranian Islamic Revolution. Jeff King dives deep into Daniel's story from being placed on death row to coming to know Jesus Christ. The post Episode 52: From Death (Row) to Life appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 51: Crisis Looms

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 15, 2021 30:59


    In part two, Jeff King and Dalia Ghanem continue their conversation about the history of Algeria’s politics, including the oil crisis, COVID-19, and the role of women's citizenship. Dalia delves deep into the complex religious ideology and governing bodies of Algeria and analyzes the state of religious freedom throughout the country. The post Episode 51: Crisis Looms appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 50: Domino Effect

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 8, 2021 31:50


    Jeff King sits down with Dalia Ghanem, an expert in political and extremist violence, Islamism and radicalization with an emphasis in Algeria and a resident scholar at the Malcolm H. Kerr Carnegie Middle East Center in Beirut. Dalia shares her incredible insight on the forces that are currently shaping the complex political climate in Algeria. The post Episode 50: Domino Effect appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 49: A Millennium of Persecution

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 2, 2021 37:39


    In part two of his interview with Adel Guindy, Jeff King continues his deep dive into the Coptic population in Egypt. The Coptics have faced persecution for over a millennium and during that time, Islam has infiltrated what seems like every corner of the country's culture. The post Episode 49: A Millennium of Persecution appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 48: Through Their Eyes

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 26, 2020 37:39


    As Jeff King continues his deep dive into Egypt, he sits down with Adel Guindy, head of Coptic Solidarity and the author of Sword Over the Nile. Jeff and Adel discuss his book which looks back at the long history of the Coptics and tells their story and experience from their perspective. The post Episode 48: Through Their Eyes appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 47: A Reflection of Reality

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 18, 2020 41:28


    From social media to the incoming Biden Administration, what does life in modern day Egypt look like for the persecuted believer? Jeff King sits down with Samuel Tadros, an expert in Egyptian persecution and a fellow at the Hudson Institute, to answer this question. The post Episode 47: A Reflection of Reality appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 46: Carrying Their Cross with Pride

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 11, 2020 35:15


    Jeff King talks with Samuel Tadros, an expert in Egyptian persecution and fellow at the Hudson Institute. In this deep dive into Egypt's Christian history, Jeff and Samuel discuss the relationship between the Muslim Brotherhood and the Coptic Christian population and how it's evolved today. The post Episode 46: Carrying Their Cross with Pride appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 45: The Heart of Persecution

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2020 31:27


    Nik Ripken and Jeff King discuss the powerful worldview shift that comes from witnessing persecution overseas and the life-long impact it had when they moved back to America. The post Episode 45: The Heart of Persecution appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 44: That’s What We Call Church

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 27, 2020 40:34


    In part 2 of his interview with Jeff King, Nik Ripken continues to share about his life in Somalia and opens up about the loss of his son during his time overseas. The post Episode 44: That’s What We Call Church appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 43: A Sheep Among Wolves

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 20, 2020 30:11


    Nik Ripken has led an extraordinary life in missions working in Somalia. Nik witnessed horrendous persecution towards underground believers. He shares his personal experiences with Jeff King in part one. The post Episode 43: A Sheep Among Wolves appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 42: A Spoonful of Freedom

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 13, 2020 47:27


    In part two of Jeff King's interview with North Korean defector Hyeonseo Lee, Lee discusses the nightmare of being separated from her family and the journey she took to reunite with them. The post Episode 42: A Spoonful of Freedom appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 41: The Walls Have Eyes

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 6, 2020 40:23


    When Hyeonseo Lee escaped North Korea at seventeen, she needed to learn how to be free. It was normal for people to suddenly disappear and to hold public executions for 'criminals.' Few places were untouched by the surveillance of the North Korean regime. Hyeonseo Lee shares her life journey with Jeff King in part one of a two-part episode. The post Episode 41: The Walls Have Eyes appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 40: Constitutional Catch-22

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2020 28:42


    After a revival in the 90s, the Church in Algeria exploded. Now a new president and a new constitution have raised some red flags for Christians in the country. Churches have been shutting down since late 2019 and they aren't reopening. The government is trying to gain complete control of the Church. In his interview with two leading Algerian pastors, Jeff King unpacks what exactly is going on with religious freedom in Algeria. The post Episode 40: Constitutional Catch-22 appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 39: Control. Control. Control.

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 23, 2020 28:32


    After a revival in the 90s, the Church in Algeria exploded. Now a new president and a new constitution have raised some red flags for Christians in the country. Churches have been shutting down since late 2019 and they aren't reopening. The government is trying to gain complete control of the Church. In his interview with two leading Algerian pastors, Jeff King unpacks what exactly is going on with religious freedom in Algeria. The post Episode 39: Control. Control. Control. appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 38: The Name and Shame Game

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 16, 2020 24:30


    In part two of his interview with William Stark and Huma's mother, Jeff King investigates the broader issue on Christian teenage girl abductions in Pakistan. Though the country has the right laws in the books, Sharia Law often overrules justice. Jeff and William analyze the Pakistani judicial system that is preventing Huma's safe return to her parents. By signing the petition, you will be telling the Pakistani authorities to address this grave injustice and return Huma to her family. Sign the petition at: www.persecution.org/take-action/petition/   The post Episode 38: The Name and Shame Game appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 37: A Waking Nightmare

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 9, 2020 22:00


    A year ago, 14-year-old Huma was abducted from her home in Pakistan and forced to marry her captor and convert to Islam. Her parents haven't seen her since. They know who the abductor is and have gone to the police, but the Pakistani justice system hasn't brought her home. In part one, Jeff King dives into the case of Huma with interviews from Huma's mother and and Will Stark, South Asia religious freedom expert. Sign the Petition to pressure the Pakistani government to take action and help bring Huma home: www.persecution.org/take-action/petition/  The post Episode 37: A Waking Nightmare appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 36: Infiltrating the Government

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 2, 2020 38:19


    In part two of Jeff King's interview with Sunday Abdu, a former legislator with the Plateau State House of Assembly in Nigeria, more governmental and social injustices are brought to light. Tensions are rising between religious groups as Christians continue to live under attack. The post Episode 36: Infiltrating the Government appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 35: Exposing Buhari

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 25, 2020 24:33


    Jeff King interviews Sunday Abdu, a former legislator with the Plateau State House of Assembly. His ethnic group, the IRIGWE tribe, which is predominantly Christian, has been devastated by Muslim Fulani militant attacks. In this episode, Sunday exposes Nigeria's president, unmasking the situation in Nigeria. The post Episode 35: Exposing Buhari appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 34: Crossing the Line

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 17, 2020 40:55


    In part two of Jeff King's interview with Charles Mudasir, Charles shares about the realization that made him turn from Islam to Christianity and how he miraculously escaped numerous attempts on his life afterward. The post Episode 34: Crossing the Line appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 33: The Price of Paradise

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 11, 2020 47:16


    Jeff King interviews Charles Mudasir, a persecution survivor who grew up in a Jihadist culture and suffered extreme persecution at the hands of his own father after converting to Christianity. Miraculously, he survived to share his story. The post Episode 33: The Price of Paradise appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 32: Crushing the Pearl of the Orient

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2020 17:50


    In part two of Jeff King's interview with Pastor Jacob, a religious refugee from Hong Kong, they discuss China's recent takeover of Hong Kong to save face following a wave of protests, potentially taking a massive financial hit. The post Episode 32: Crushing the Pearl of the Orient appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 31: Fleeing Hong Kong

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2020 29:08


    Hong Kongers are losing the fight for freedom. Jeff King interviews Pastor Jacob*, who fled Hong Kong over safety concerns after China announced the introduction of the National Security Law. He shares his concerns for the church in Hong Kong and the Christians there who have flourished for years under Hong Kong's democratic government. The post Episode 31: Fleeing Hong Kong appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 30: China’s Social Credit System

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 14, 2020 30:41


    In part two of Jeff King's interview with Heritage analyst Olivia Enos, the two dig into China's social credit system, which is being used to manipulate and control every aspect of society—from who you talk to, to where you go. When combined with China's agenda to suppress religion, this powerful tool turns into a weapon of the state. The post Episode 30: China’s Social Credit System appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 29: A New Mao

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 7, 2020 33:07


    Jeff King interviews Heritage analyst Olivia Enos about China's Orwellian attempts to stifle religious activity, crush Hong Kong's autonomy, and expand control into other countries. The post Episode 29: A New Mao appeared first on Persecution.

    Episode 28: Scars on their Arms

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2020 38:10


    Jeff King interviews JoAnn Doyle, leader of Not Forgotten - Uncharted Ministries, who discusses what it's like to be a Muslim woman, confined to a religion that does not value them. She has seen first-hand the physical and mental abuse that many Muslim women have endured over the years. She also shares how her ministry is able to minster to Muslim women, and how it seeks to show the church in the West how to engage and love Muslims in their own communities. The post Episode 28: Scars on their Arms appeared first on Persecution.

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