Podcast appearances and mentions of hans phillips

On this week's mid-week episode, join Adam Quiney for a very special conversation with special guest, Hans Phillips.  In this episode, they dive into talking about all things life, leadership and everything in between.

Welcome to the Wise Not Withered podcast! This is Season 4, Episode 4. This month's guest is Dr. Rosie Kuhn. She is the founder of The Paradigm Shifts Coaching Group, a boutique coaching company which focuses on personal and spiritual development in oneself, in relationships, and in the workplace. She is considered a preeminent thought leader in the field of transformation. She is the author of many books, including Aging Like a Guru - Who Me, and I've Arrived! Well, Sort Of… Her books can be found on Amazon. She has been training individuals to become Transformational Coaches since 2001. If you are interested in speaking to Dr. Rosie about coaching or training with her, you can email her at rosie@theparadigmshifts.com. She has a few of her own Podcasts, including Spiritual Immersion - Taking the Plunge, and Aging Like a Guru - Who Me? She can also be found on YouTube - Dr. Rosie Kuhn, and her website is theparadigmshifts.com.   All right! So let's just get right into it. So how old are you? I am 71, just turned 71 years old. Amazing, great! Yeah, how would you describe the work that you do? Well, I would start off by saying I'm a transformational coach, and then I would add that my coaching includes what I would call the transpersonal, the spiritual, the whole person. And I would include that I was a marriage and family therapist, worked in recovery for a while, so I have forty years of experience in supporting and empowering… Myself, and other people, to really get to know who they are as a whole person. Not just physical, 3-D, “this is what I'm supposed to think”, consensus view of reality-person. So that's where I would start! Yeah! And I have noticed that you mention on both of your Podcasts—or I don't know if you have more than two—the consensus reality. Can you talk a little bit more about that? So it's what we see around us, what we think is true, when we're not questioning reality in a sense. We're going, “Oh yeah, that's what I'm supposed to be doing.” “Oh that's what I should be doing.” You know… “As a female gender, here's how I'm supposed to dress. Here's I'm supposed to think. Here's how I'm supposed to be around men, or other women.” So, all of that is just automatic… It's based on the data that has been filtered to us, through us, throughout history, and then we're left with what this is. And so we're here in this reality. And then we can go, “Wait a second, this doesn't fit me. This doesn't feel right to me.” I don't know about you, but I know a lot of people, including myself, who was like “I don't belong here. I don't know why… I should try harder. I should fix myself. Something is wrong.” As opposed to going… There's what we think we should be, and do. And then there's who we are, as an essential, divine, natural expression of who we are, just as a being. And I love more and more, I see this on Netflix, I love watching Queer Eye. Jonathan Van Ness is somebody that I have learned so much, in terms of, “Who are you in there?” He is just the expression of him. He doesn't have… All the learning and growing and challenges he's been through. If you don't know, Jonathan Van Ness, he's with Queer Eye. As a non-binary person and as a spokesperson for that, it's really helped me grow my capacity to accept people for who they are. And there is no normal, basically. There's no normal. There's what we think is normal, and then there's who we are in our natural, essential expression of self. Mhm. Yeah. So what started you on that questioning path? The path of questioning the consensus reality. I feel like we each have very specific things that trigger that, like, “Oh! Wait, whoa! I've been living on autopilot and not really questioning anything.” So what was that for you? What flipped that mindset? I would say it started when I was… I'll say eleven or twelve. I was raised in Catholic Church. And I started going, “Wait a second, that doesn't fit…”  Whatever it is, a particular dogma or whatever, it was a sin… It was a sin to eat meat on Fridays. So I'm 70, I grew up in the 50's and 60's. In the 50's, it was a sin to eat meat on Fridays, okay. And then, it becomes, well, it's not a sin. It's like, wait a minute. How can something be a sin, and now it's not? Because somebody says? Or questioning heaven and hell, questioning that I have to talk to a priest about my sins? Why can't I just talk to God directly? That started me on that perspective of, wait a second, I don't understand this. And younger than that, I just had to suppress my questioning. You're not allowed to question. And I wasn't allowed to question my parents. That's part of that consensus reality. The culture I was in. There's no questioning authority. And then it was like, wait a second, I have these thinkings, I have these thoughts… And most people grow up, to whatever degree, losing the ability to know what they think, feel, need, and want. Because we're not supposed to. You know… Juliana, tell me what you want me to tell you, tell me what you want to talk about today, tell me how I'm supposed to show up… Those kinds of things. As opposed to going hey, just be you. Just be you… So that was the beginning, I would say, was that questioning of that reality. And it was very scary, because it's like, well I might go to hell! Certainly, when I came out to my parents that I was not gonna be following Catholic Church anymore, they were furious, right. They were just furious with me. When was that? How old were you? I was seventeen at that point. Okay, so it was about like five or six years of you just kinda like, “Whoa, what's going on?” Right. Just trying to fit in, trying to be a good Catholic. Trying to go well, how can I change my orientation so I fit into this picture? And the point is, it's not the Catholic Church. The point is that programming, and the patterning and the training that is so automatic. It's not like there's anything wrong. It's just programming and patterning, and part of the data. It's like our computers, all this data is coming into our system constantly. And fortunately we have some virus protectors that can take out those bugs. But in terms of our human experience… I'm gonna use the word infiltrate. That's the energy. The energy of all-ness. The energy of all-ness is the universal energy that is, which includes all the past, and all the future, and all those kinds of things. So it really is a training, in a sense, to say wait a second, I have to put a pin in this moment, and go stop. Stop! So I can be me in this moment, as opposed to be trying to be, trying to fix, trying to heal, trying to get over… All the trying. And to stop, and go wait a second, who am I? Who am I? What's really true here? And I'm grateful to be on the planet for seventy years. And it still, Juliana, I go, oh my god. I don't feel seventy on the inside. I feel like I'm thirty-nine, really. So when I say I'm seventy, people go “Oh, she's old.” But it's like, when you look at “old people”, they're not old inside. They're not old inside. It's part of another thing to get over, that training. So I hope that answers your question. That was the beginning of questioning reality, questioning everything. Mhm! Yeah, and so you do transformational coaching now. You said you were an MFT. What other careers have you held throughout your life? Well, I got my Masters in marriage and family when I was twenty-nine. I was married, had two children. And at twenty-nine, thirty, I was getting my degree. I lived in Nova Scotia, I lived in Ontario, I grew up in Michigan. Lots of stuff. Lots of adventures. I moved out to Nova Scotia, and got a job, found a job with what used to be called the Nova Scotia Commission on Drug Dependency. And so I got a job in a very small, little community in Liverpool, in Nova Scotia, being the clinical therapist, working with people who were in recovery. I was working with people who had at least gone through some detoxing and were in a process of getting their life together. They were on the path. And in that I realized that therapy does not prepare you to talk to people about their spiritual issues. It does not. In a sense, most therapeutic… Especially with MFTs, we were not under the psychology boards, so we weren't having to know and work under the DSM, which is Diagnostic Statistical Manual and mental health perspective. We saw people as people and part of the system and wholeness and, “How did you learn to be you?” But even in that, I wasn't prepared, and I don't think most psychologists are prepared to talk about we are beyond that 3D consensus reality, “Here's who you are. Here's who you're supposed to be.” And I would say generally speaking, there's a norm that most therapeutic processes are trying to get people to come into, that they could be “normal”. We want to be normal! And I would say that's true for me too. And it may not be the same but I still see that focus on trying to get people “normal”. And there isn't a normal. So that's one of the things I find wonderful about transpersonal psychology, or the transpersonal, more integrative approach of the whole person. We're looking at, “Who are you?” In fact, I don't know how old you are, Juliana, but you have this podcast called… Wisdom… Tell me what your podcast is called? It's called Wise Not Withered! Wise Not Withered! So I'm expecting to talk to somebody who's sixty years old, right! You're not sixty! So my expectation is, “You can't be doing this! You're too young!” Right. So those interpretations are inaccurate. It's inaccurate. So when we're trying to be or do, based on somebody else's perspective, that's where we start to get dis-ease. We'll call it that. Dis-ease. I got to a point where it was like wait a second. I want to grow my capacity to work with people in their spiritual issues. Because, this is the point, twelve-step programs bring in the relationship with something greater than. Higher power. Something where you can let go of your own sense of will, and let go and let God, basically. And because I wasn't trained to do that, I got it as I was working in recovery issues with people. It was like, I want more training in that. I want to know more! So lots of things… I went sailing for two years, on a ninety-three foot skinner, across the Atlantic Ocean. I have a book called The Unholy Path of a Reluctant Adventurer. I talk about all this stuff, like how did I come to make the choices I made? How did I end up here? How did I end up in California in this program? How did I end up on this island I live on? Orcas Island, in Washington. The point is that I found a school in California, which was the Institute of Transpersonal Psychology, now called Sofia University. And there I studied, and specialized in Spiritual Guidance. And this was before I knew about coaching. And Spiritual Guidance was a great opportunity to see a different perspective than therapy. And even though the school was transpersonal, and “woo-woo” from so many perspectives… Within the therapeutic dynamics, they were diagnostic, and… Basically “you're doing it wrong” or “you need help.” Yeah, very… Categories… Exactly. As opposed to spiritual guidance, which is, “Hey, you're good. You're whole.” And… What's going on for you? Where are your challenges? Where are you struggling? So that was really wonderful for me. And then I met a person, his name is Hans Phillips, and he is in Santa Cruz. And he trains people to be coaches. And his perspective and orientation was so in alignment. It just lights me up! Here, I studied as a therapist, systems family therapy. Then studied spirituality, and spiritual guidance. And then finding this vehicle—coaching as a vehicle, for supporting and empowering people to go from “Here's where I'm at, and here's where I want to go.” That's my progress. Twenty years ago, I was a coach, and with all of the practice and the training and the work that I've done… I started a training program and transformational coaching in 2001, and I still do that. But my focus is on… When I talk to people, I bring out my little magic wand. And I say to people, “Here you are now, talking to me. And I'm your fairy godmother. Imagine me as your fairy godmother.” And in this moment—people can't see us, right—you had a response as soon as I brought out my fairy godmother wand. You went “Oh!!” And you lit up, and you got very excited. It's like “Okay, my fairy godmother is here! Something great is gonna happen!” Right? (Laughs) Yeah! And you had a paradigm shift. And my company's name is The Paradigm Shifts Coaching Group. Because what's required in this work, in transformational coaching, is that people know about this other paradigm, like, “Oh goody! My wish is going to come true!” Yeah! I love that! So when I talk to people—they call me, they've been referred to me, so-and-so said you're really good, or I saw you at your website and thought I'd call—and I go “Great, what do you want?” And they go, “Well, I'd kinda like to have more money, and I'd kinda like to have a better relationship…” This “kinda like to have”, okay. And then I pull out my magic wand, and they go “oh!” And I go, “What is it you really want??” And they light up, and they say, “What I want is I want to live on a beach in Hawaii. I want to work with kids with disabilities. I want to write. I love…” They just get so animated with their own knowing. Their own knowing. This is not something I'm making up. Just like you, you did it! You lit up! That's my coaching. That's the transformation. That's where we're going. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does. That's so interesting, just that visual. When did you start using that little wand? (Laughs) A very long time ago! (Laughs) Fifteen years… Whatever. That's great. I love that so much. But you know, a lot of times, talking to people, I don't have this. This is just… You can go on Amazon and search for “magic wands” and this acrylic thing with sparkles will come up. But sometimes I'll just pull out my pen, and I go, “I've got my magic wand in my hand!” And they go, “Okay! I'm ready!” And the point of it is not that… In transformational coaching, a lot of people are calling themselves transformational coaches. And what we think that we means is, “Okay, she's gonna make my wish come true. And I'm not gonna have to work at it.” But the point of this is, when I say, “I'm your fairy godmother. And my job is to empower you to empower yourself to make your dream come true. It's not about me, it's about you.” Now we see the exuberance, we see the passion. And people go, “Yeah but that's impossible.” And it's like, “Stop! Don't go there yet! Just tell me what you want!” And this is one of the biggest challenges humans beings have, or most people. They're not allowed to know what they want. Like what I said earlier. People say, “I don't know what I want. I don't know what I need. I don't know what I think. I don't know what I feel.” So as a transformational coach, my job is to bring the space, be a presence. Bring about this space where you could go, “What is you want?” And the client says, “I saw a doll in the window fourteen years ago. I love that doll.” “Do you want that doll?” “Yeah!” “Okay, great. How do you want to get it?” We describe and explore the possibilities, versus, “No, I can't have it.” “I'm not allowed.” Or “That's really stupid because I'm 38 years old.” Or I'm 70! Whatever that is, right. “No, I can't.” But you can. You can! So that's the fun part of my job. Even though on the one hand, I call myself a fairy godmother, on the other hand, I call myself a “thinking partner”. Mhm! Yeah! I'm listening for how you think. “Yes, I really want that doll in the window.” I'm just making up things that are really absurd. People want things, and they judge it. But if we're just playing here on this phone call, and you go, “Yeah I really want that doll.” And I go, “Great!” And you go, “No…” It's like, what just happened? I'm pointing my finger. What just happened? Something just happened. You had this exuberance and excitement, and then you just deflated yourself—just like that. What happened!? So as a thinking partner, I catch those moments. I was talking to somebody the other day. And she was like, “In this moment, this is what I really want.” And I go, “Great!” And without a breath, she went to “Yes, but”. Yes, but I can't. And it's like, wow, what just happened? And I go, “What do you mean? Let's go back to, ‘Here's what I want.' And put a period at the end of that.” And it's work to get people to do that. The “yes, but” and “if only” comes so quickly. They can't even see it. And that's why having a thinking partner is so important for people. To go, “Wait, stop. You loved what you were talking about, and now you're deflated. What happened!?” Yeah. And they go, “Oh man!” And they start to see their patterns of “I can't have what I want.” Or “I'm not worthy.” Or “I'm wrong.” Or “I'm bad.” Or those kinds of patterns of dismissing, disrespecting, disregarding our own knowing. Truly. So, I'm giving you very long answers. (Laughs) (Laughs) This is great! I love this! I'm on a roll! Yeah, I love that “thinking partner”. It seems more like a guide to help people through their own limitations. That's what I'm hearing. That's right. And I wrote an article, I think if you look it up on google or something. Five Reasons I Don't Tell People What To Do. I don't tell people what to do, because 99% of the time, they don't do what I tell them to do. And so you might say, why's that? Do I have bad advice? No, people don't want to do what they're told to do. That's just a matter of fact. They go, “Please tell me!” And I tell them, or other people… But if everybody did what they were told to do, we'd have, supposedly, a very peaceful, loving, great world. But we don't. Because we have resistance. And it's really interesting and it's really important to say, “Okay, so what's the resistance?” Without judgement. We go, “Oh, I'm not doing my homework. You told me to do this and I'm not doing it. And that makes me a bad person, and I shouldn't be coaching…” And it's like, no that's not it. That's not it. It's that we have this perspective, this data. We have this consensus reality, that we started this conversation with. We have this influence that we've been swimming in, and breathing, and doing, and watching… FaceTime, Facebook, Instagram—that's all consensus view of reality. If you want to stop—I mean, I'm saying that, but you're on podcasts, and I'm on podcasts, YouTube and stuff. But I'm very clear about, hey, if you want to shift your orientation, and have a better life, if you will, or the life that you want, you gotta stop doing stuff that's part of that normal, consensus reality. Watching news, stop doing that. The things that feel negative, or the people you feel negative around. Like gosh, I just feel yucky when I'm around that person. Stop being around that person! That kind of thing. But they go, “No, that's my mother. I can't.” Or whatever stuff shows up. “That's my best friend.” Like, okay. So this point is, why I don't tell people what to do. So as a coach, I ask questions. If I do, I say, “Juliana, here's what I would do. I would go to the store and I would buy that doll. Tell me what shows up for you when I say that.” And that gives you the opportunity to express your truth. And if you go, “That's a good idea, Rosie, I think I'll do that.” I'll go, “Stop. Tell me what's going on inside of you.” Cause you might go yeah, that's a good idea, but it doesn't tell me what's going on for you. Does that make sense? Yeah. So this thinking partner thing is really important. So many coaches, we all want to be smart, we all want to be great so that you'll come back. And so many of us are like, all about the money. So I want to make sure you come back, so I keep you dependent on me. But if I say hey, this is about you. I'm in service to you. If I do my job, you'll tell other people about me. I'm not gonna worry. And my job is empower you to know the difference of who you are inside, versus what isn't, the fear-based stuff. And go, “Yeah, I want this! I love this!” So that you know that. That's my job. I want people to fire me, in a sense. I want people to outgrow me, that's the whole point. Right, yeah. And you're gonna say, “Hey, John. You gotta talk to Rosie. Cause she's great!” Not because you're dependent on me, but because you became independent. And individuated. You came to know your own truth. And you love it, and you're excited, and want to explore and experiment. And is it scary? Yes. Is it hard work? Yes. And, it's really about you, and individuating yourself. People say, I want to be sovereign. Okay, great, and be the fullest version of yourself. Yeah. I love that. Amazing. So obviously you have so much experience. How has your coaching changed over time? Since it's been so many years at this point. I… It almost brings me to tears to think about that. I had no idea that we as human beings could grow and expand ourselves to such a degree. So for me personally, that's true. I thought about this before, when I got my B.A. in Psychology, got my Masters. It's like, how much can you know? Here's the books, here's the theory. Okay great, that's the practice. Go do your math, go do your multiplication tables. And that's it. And then you go, wait a second. Now there's fractions, and now there's C minus this plus that multiplied by… But we don't even know that exists when we're doing just multiplication tables. And it's the same with becoming a therapist or coach. And it's really a matter of, what's your spectrum? What is it you're wanting? And because I continue to be curious about who is in here, inside me, I'm curious about what the fullest potential is of this being—me—then I keep growing that capacity of knowing. As I do that with myself, I have greater capacity to bring that to you, with less judgement. Less judgement of “You're doing it wrong, Juliana! You gotta do it my way!” It's like, all that stuff just goes away. Yeah, no. If you're not ready, you're not ready. And I say that a lot to people. Cause you're supposed to be “ready” and if you're not ready, I'd better help you get ready. Or I gotta do something different so you'll be ready, cause if you're not ready, then you're gonna quit and I won't get paid. That kind of thing. All that stuff… As opposed to, “Where are you?” And you go, “Hey, I'm not ready.” It's like, “Okay, great.” One of the things I talk about a lot is that we have these conflicting commitments. So you as a potential client come in and go, “Hey, I want… This.” Shiny, wonderful life. And I go, “Excellent. I'm so excited for you!” All of that. And then six weeks down the road, you're not that much closer. You go, “What's going on here??” Well, there's a dilemma, because there's part of you that—none of know how to be in our fullest potential. You don't know how to do that, I don't know how to do that. I've never been there. We don't know how to do that. People want transformation, they don't know how to be that. You take a caterpillar and plink! You make it into a butterfly. It has no idea what it's doing, right. So we have this dilemma, like “I want what I want. But I'm afraid to let go of what I know.” So every single human being—and I say this to every single person I'm coaching, and every person I'm training to be a coach. There's a conflicting commitment. I say I want this, and I'm also committed to not getting vulnerable. And so the work of a coach is to support people to be in that dilemma, and that choice point, and explore, what's that like for you? I want this so much, and yet I'm so afraid, right? Yeah. That's every human being's dilemma. That's what I'm doing with people, supporting them in being able to slowly, slowly, slowly, make incremental… This is not about leaps of faith, quantum leaps. This is about incremental shifts and changes. People go “I don't know who I am without—” I had a client the other day say “I don't know to be with the unknown.” That was her thing. This is what 90% of human beings are up to. Cause they're afraid of the unknown. I want this but I don't know how to do it. I don't know how to be me in this greatness. It's like, “Well, when you got up this morning and you looked in the mirror and you smiled, how was that?” It's like, “Oh! Yeah! I had that moment.” And it's like, “When you looked out the window, did you know what you were gonna look at?” “No.” “What was that like?” “It was good!” “Did you know which tree your dog was gonna pee on outside?” “Nope, didn't know that.” “How was that for you?” “Well, I was fine with it.” Being able to go, “Wow. Every moment is a moment that I'm in the unknown.” It's a revelation. It's a revelation! “Oh my god, I'm doing it all the time! …But—” Then we squeeze up again. We go yes, but. It's those little incremental places that a thinking partner, or a coach, a fairy godmother, whatever you want to call a person who says, “Look, you're doing it now!” Like, “Yeah but I can't do it over here.” It's like, “Okay, good to know. But you're doing it.” And you allow yourself to be available to, “Wow, I'm already doing this. If I can do this here, then I can learn to do it over there.” If I can learn to be okay with the unfolding… We have a lot of wind today, I could be all in a panic. Oh my god, 40-mile an hour wind…! It's like no, I'm okay with that. I've learned to be okay with that. We can learn to grow our capacity to be okay with the unknown anywhere and everywhere if our desire is great enough. I want it enough. I have fourteen… Fifteen or sixteen books, somewhere in that vicinity, what I've written. First book was Self-Empowerment 101. And I talk about that commitment, or being committed enough. Just enough, so that you can consider the possibility of, IT. As opposed to the resistance, the “yes but” that comes in so quickly. But if we want something enough, then we're willing to allow one incremental step closer… And a good example of this is, one of the most important practices for change, for transformation, is noticing. So this client is, I want her to become aware of her judgements, righteousness. I go, “Okay, I want you to notice every time you're judgmental about something.” And it took her six days. So the sixth day, the day before our session, boom! She started seeing her judgements. So there was something she wanted enough, that all of a sudden, it allowed her to notice. And then she'd notice something else. And then she'd notice something else. And she was like, “Wow, it's all over the place!” We can't change what we don't notice. We can't change what we can't see. And so a lot of effective coaching is getting you to see. Not just, “Do you see it, Juliana?” You go, “Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see it.” It's not that. It's like, “Oh my gosh, I can't believe how prevalent this is, and how it's making me exhausted. I don't want to be exhausted anymore, judging and being righteous, telling other people how they should be better. I'm tired of it.” “Okay, great. What can you practice?” “I could practice saying ‘stop' to that. I have to notice it first. If I don't notice it, I can't change it. So I gotta notice it. And then make choices based on that.” So that's based on that conflicting commitment, that I want what I want, but I don't want to lose my security and safety. I don't want it to be hard. I don't want it to hurt. I don't want to be sad. I don't want to feel my feelings. Like okay, great. Okay. Great! (Laughs) Juliana, what's showing up for you as you're listening to me? I love the look on your face. (Laughs) I'm just taking it all in. I feel like I've heard a lot of these concepts over the years… I started my own, I guess spiritual path, about five or six years ago. And yeah, it really is noticing that is the starting point. Noticing the patterns, and all the resistance that shows up, too. It's all resonating a lot with me. I love all of the things you're saying! (Laughs) Sounds great. I'm curious for you, did you or do you still, receive coaching yourself? Yep! So if you're willing to share, what are some of your own limitations that you have confronted and changed over time? It's an ongoing… There's a book that I love, and I've been using as one of my bibles, it's called Oneness. A person named Rasha transcribed… She downloaded this book, so it's a channeled text… And… So I read that all the time. And why am I telling you this? (Laughs) I was curious about your own limitations that you've confronted. Right. So the reason I mention this book is because one of the things it says, among many thousands of things that just keep reiterating, is that this is a life. This is a process of life-themed resolution. So our time on Earth… So our time on Earth. It's like going to college. Here's the curriculum I'm taking. I'm taking bio-chemical engineering. That's a very specific path. Now, if you're taking an art class, that's not in the same genre as a bio-medical engineer. So we're here to have a very specific life theme resolution process, that we're here to grow ourselves through. So we cycle back over and over and over again to these themes, that people go, “Oh, I've already done that. I've already dealt with that. I've done that work with a therapist over here. I don't need to do that now.” Right. But it's showing up. So I say that because what shows up for me continually is… And you've heard this a thousand times, I'm holding my face like oh my god, we're so tired of this conversation. But this place of self-acknowledgement, self-appreciation, self-trust, self-safety—that I'm safe with myself. And then that comes into a place of self-reverence, and inevitably self-love. And I think that's true for me, and I really see that most of what I'm going through is universal. This is what shows up for everyone. What's the degree that you feel safe with yourself? What's the degree that you go, “I'm wrong/bad/unworthy. I'm a mistake.” What's the degree that you do that? And it's like, the more that we can go “Oh, I'm still doing that unworthy/mistake thing. I gotta work at that.” That's all I'm doing, at greater and greater degrees of awareness. It's the same things, just different… Money issues are always big for people. But money isn't about money—it's about worth and value, and trust and believing. So a lot of people will say “Hey, I really believe that the universe is abundant and it's here for everybody.” And I go, “Okay, great. So how are you living into that?” “Oh, I don't. I'm afraid.” Right? “I'm staying in a job I don't like because I'm afraid.” “But you told me you believe the universe is abundant and is there for you.” “Yeah, I know I say that but—” And 99% of us have these very wonderful, true knowing in the abundance of the universe, but we're afraid to actually take the leap and have faith in that practice, living in the truth of that. We take our faith and we put it in the consensus reality of work, and bosses, and having to work at a job you're not happy at. That's where we put our faith. If I do this long enough, I'm gonna be okay. So for me, I just keep reiterating what are my issues are basically everybody's issues, and whatever circumstance comes up in the moment, that is my moment—I call it a pop quiz—of “Oh! That's challenging! Eek!” Or, you know, a friend of mine who's UGH, she drives me crazy. It's not about her! It's my stuff, and how am I righteous or judging her? And so even though I work with a coach, so much of it I could do myself, cause I can. And I trust that I know the difference between a feeling of my essential nature, where I'm fulfilling, and happy and joyful, or at least contented, versus when I'm in angst, and fearful. And I go, “Wait, you're not in the serenity place. What's going on?” It's like, “Yeah no, I don't want to talk about that. Let's go watch some Netflix.” There's something here going on for you… And sometimes I have to be in the discomfort of it until it comes up. So all of these things that I do for myself, I work with my clients to do for themselves, so they're not dependent on me inevitably. They're dependent on themselves because they've integrated my questioning. They've integrated that voice of, “What would Rosie say?” Right. It's always challenging to move myself into the more expanded self. Well, if I believe in abundance, where is it? Where the hell is it!? I live in a little travel trailer. It's 350 square feet. I have ten acres of land on this beautiful island, and my fortune doesn't allow me to build a house. It allows me to live here peacefully, and enjoy what I have. And it would be nice to have a greater abundance of… Financial… Whatever. And, “Why don't you have it, Rosie??” It's like… My curriculum, my life theme resolution issue is still working itself out. And maybe financial abundance—in my estimation of what that should be—isn't here. It's not here yet, the way I want it. But that doesn't mean I'm doing something wrong, or that I'm bad… This is part of that thing, “Stop doing that!” Stop doing that. “There must be something wrong with me if I don't have what I want.” It's one of the things I love in Oneness, it says, “Your highest vibrational results are always forthcoming.” So this is the nature of us as vibrational beings. If we're in density—most fear-based perspectives are very dense. Consensus reality is very dense—fear, fear, fear. Our highest vibrational results are always forthcoming. And I go, “Okay, if they're not coming, then I've got some work to do.” It makes sense for me. Rather than going, “Oh no, there's something wrong.” No, I've got some growing to do. And people go, “Oh my god, it just takes so much… You're 70 years old and you're still doing this!?” We're doing this for eternity. We are eternal beings, growing ourselves every moment of this eternal, brilliant life. We never stop. It's always, Juliana, always a matter of reminding myself of that. Reminding myself that my life is really beautiful. And I get to talk to you, and I get to be part of something really great. And that's pretty awesome. Yeah, I love that. I'm hearing this really delicate balance of accepting where you are, and also… Loving yourself into improvement. Yeah, and this book I mentioned earlier… She, like most of us, think we need to keep working on ourselves. And the message to her is, stop working on yourself. Stop believing that you need to do something about who you are. And the challenge with that—the addiction is to the movement and to the activity, but also to the cortisol and adrenaline. The hormones… Busy, busy, busy. But when we stop, we start to feel uncomfortable, because we're now gonna go through a withdrawal process. Hm! Oh, wow, yeah… This is where the addiction and recovery process comes in, in this work. That alcoholic, or work-a-holic, or drug addict. That's obvious. But we're talking about these elements, these systems within ourselves, these patterns of being that have been with us for so long we don't even know they exist. That going-going-going, trying-trying-trying, bettering myself all the time, is one of those life theme resolutions. Where does that come from? “I'm not okay if I'm just sitting here, doing nothing.” Hm… Wow. But I am okay. We're all divine beings, here. As opposed to, what is it. Jesus is coming, look busy. It's like yeah, no. No! And so she's struggling with even the consideration… We're not talking about, she's doing nothing, as in recovery or withdrawal. She's considering… Again, this is that dilemma. I want fulfillment in my human spirit. But it's too scary. Like… Okay! So my work as a transformational coach, as a thinking partner, a fairy godmother, is to support people, go “Yeah, I totally get it. Been there, done that. Many, many, many times.” Good sponsor in any 12-step program is gonna say, “I know what that's like.” To be in resistance. I know what it's like to be terrified and choose something different. I know what that's like. And it's because I've done my own personal work and gotten to the point where I have, that I can say that, and truly mean it. And not from a place of arrogance, and “Let me tell you how to do it.” It's like, I totally get it. It's what we call a big, fat, BE WITH. Right. (Laughs) It sucks!! Yup. It sucks. I don't know what to do. Yup. Totally get it. Well, tell me what to do! Yeah no, what's that gonna do? Yeah well— You know, those kinds of yeah, yeah… Those things that we're all IN. I think I'll turn on Netflix, and have some ice cream. Yeah. (Laughs) Lemme just take a break here. Which is a good thing too! But we're always in that place of… Incremental, slow… There's no hurry. You'll get it this time. You'll get it next time. There's no mistakes. Like if I didn't fix it this time, I'll fix it next time. It just doesn't matter. It gets to a point where it doesn't matter. Not to be flippant, but just in terms of, be who you are now, and what's that like for you, and really see this as a precious… Come to experience yourself as precious. That really, truly, slowly evolving into… Exploring, experiencing the preciousness of your being. That's the point. Yeah. And our curriculum, life theme resolution process. Right. Yeah. Wow. Where to go from here… Let's see, I do have a list of questions. We've already hit a lot of them just from what you've already been talking about. I am curious, when did you start to become a coach for other coaches? At what point did you feel qualified to train other people to do the work that you do? It came really naturally, and because I've been twenty years in the therapeutic, spiritual guidance kind of area, then it wasn't hard or difficult to slide that into teaching and training. And Hans, who was my trainer, he actually asked me to do a training program. So that was our gateway into doing that. We were able to train at this really great school. I did that for ten years. I did it with him for a year, then took it on. But I had such a capacity. This is one of those things… “How did you do that??” I had this capacity to teach, and integrate all of this information from the therapeutic process, spiritual stuff, coaching… Put it all together from my own orientation, my own way of seeing the world. And I loved it. It made me really happy! And obviously it made other people happy, cause it was a really successful program. That was a transition that was very easy, cause I already love teaching. And I was able to integrate all of what I'd learned—I almost want to say magically. It was just cause I'd worked so hard. This was that magic tipping point, coalition of everything in one place. Bada-bing-bada-boom, it happened! Yeah, okay. I'm curious, in one of your Podcasts, you said that you're pretty reclusive and don't let a lot of people into your life. I resonate with that—I feel like I also am the same way, yet simultaneously I feel like we both share a lot in the Podcasts that we do. How do you explain that? (Laughs) So I'm pretty much an introvert. So I get a lot of my refueling by being alone. And I love conversations like this. These fuel me. But then, I don't have anything else specific to do today. So I'll go take a nap, or have lunch, or do other things that need to get done. But if I'm in a social environment, or where there's a lot of people, my energy gets depleted really quickly. Okay, that makes sense. So that's one thing. But also, I think it's important, the idea of highly sensitive people. As a highly sensitive person, we could get fatigued very quickly by being around people, or being around environments like shopping malls for instance, or particular restaurants. And when we realize that, we become more conscious of how we take care of ourselves. And go, “No, not gonna go.” I live on an island, so there's no malls. But even in particular shops or whatever, it's like, “No, not going in there.” It diffuses and diminishes my energy, in a way that's not fun. So partly it's that too. So when I'm with people, I'm with people more consciously, and of choice. As opposed to going, “Yeah, I'm supposed to.” Or “I should.” A friend asked me to a concert last weekend, and I went… Oh god… Do I really want to go? And I felt into it. And it's like, I'm gonna go! But a lot of times, I can feel… It's always the balancing. My point is that I am a highly sensitive person. I'm not saying that as a diagnosis. Before I even took the online quiz, it's like, yeah I'm pretty sensitive to things. And so my work is really important to me, so my friends, I keep quiet friends, because I want my energy to be full for my clients. And for my life. And I have to be aware of that. I have be conscious of that. And make conscious choices based on that. Yeah. So I hope that answers your question. Yeah, it definitely does. I resonate a lot with that too. I also… I didn't know there was a quiz, but when I first read about HSP, I was like, “Wow, that's totally me!” That all resonates with me too, like being very sensitive to how other people are feeling without them really needing to express it, and taking on other people's energy before I learned about energetic boundaries… All of that stuff! Yeah, you can google highly sensitive people, and the quizzes pop up. The questionnaire, whatever it is. Most people already know, that's why they go, “Oh, I'm gonna take this just for fun. What's the degree of highly sensitive person that I am?” Yeah, cool! I think I'll go do that after this. It's another identity thing. “Oh, I am one of those!” I say that kind of facetiously. Cause what we're talking about is disintegrating that identity that I'm anything other than who I am, in this moment. Yeah, just for fun! So you mentioned you've written many books. When did you decide to write a book? And what was that process like? I'm just so curious, it's very fascinating that you have… Had an idea, and wrote about it, and seen it to publication so many times. That's really amazing. Well I grew up with a C- average in high school. I was told that I was… I think my IQ was 95 or something like that. My history teacher told my mom not to have me go to university, cause I'm just not cut out for that. I was so in angst about dysfunctional stuff in my reality. And I had no capacity to even know who I am or what I wanted, other than, “You're supposed to go to college. You're supposed to get married. You're supposed to have kids. You're supposed to, you're supposed to, you're supposed to…” So, bottom line is, I didn't start writing until I was 55. I finished my PhD when I was 50. And I had to write for my PhD. Part of that, I came to awareness, people said, “Wow, that's really good writing in there!” It was like wow… Okay… It's just what I'm doing. I'm not a writer. I'm just doing what I'm supposed to do to finish my PhD. But I got some notice. And people go, “Hey can you join this group?” Cause they were talking about embodied writing, what it feels like in your body when you're having these experiences. I was writing about being on the sailboat and having a transformational experience, and what it was like in the moment of that experience. And they went, “Wow, that's really great! How did you do that? Do more of that!” So that was the first that I started getting some recognition for my writing. When I was 55 and doing this training program, and hadn't written a manual or anything… A friend of mine had written a book in three months. And I said, “Okay you did it in three months. I'm committing to doing it in four months.” This manual for this training program. So that was my commitment. I wrote it in four months. Now that was, in a sense, the first draft—that got written in four months. I loved it! It went through many facets of editing. And I'm self-published. All my books are self-published. And Amazon has this great ability to connect people through Babelcube. Connects people to translators. A lot of my books are translated into French, Italian, Spanish, and some other languages, which is really fun. But it took me four months to write it. It took me another I'll say, almost a year to have the cover done, and all the edits, and everything put together. Probably over a year, okay. But… I did it! I did it. It was great. I'd been writing little blog kind of things, which seemed weird at the time because that was all new. And this fellow contacted me and said, “Hey I've got this website about business. And I'm wondering if you would write blogs for that?” And I go, “What do you want me to write about?” And he said, “Yeah, if you write 25 or 26, you could put them together and make a book!” Like well, geez. That's a really great idea! So the first book I wrote, after Self-Empowerment 101—that was my first book for the training program, it's a really great book for everybody. After he approached me, I wrote a book called The ABC's of Spirituality and Business. I mean, there's 26 letters, so that was easy. And so writing A's about acknowledgement and allowing. B is about… Whatever. K is for kindness. Put it together, and that became a book. So it was six months of writing. Twenty-six weeks. And that became a book, over a year, with editing and cover designs. Then I wrote another set of blogs for him called Dilemmas of Being in Business. Another twenty-five, twenty-six blogs, put it together… Bada-bing-bada-boom. So those were the starts of how I wrote. And then I wrote The Unholy Path of a Reluctant Adventurer. And then I wrote a series of books called… One was called “You Know You're Transforming When…” And that book wrote itself in about three hours. That's just little, one-page quotes. That whole set… Sorry, it's just interesting how they unfolded. The next one was, “If Only My Mother Had Told Me… Or Maybe I Wasn't Listening”. That's the title. It was 101 pearls of wisdom I had to get on my own. But that pretty well wrote itself very quickly. Then the third in that series was called “M.E.” Standing for “miraculous existence”. And these were all, like one-page kind of little thing… That one was based on the fact that I had been a therapist, trained to be a therapist. M.E. is 101 insights I didn't get in therapy. So here's all these things that I didn't get in therapy. And I was a therapist for twenty years, all of that stuff. What didn't I learn, that was really valuable? And the fourth in that series is “I've Arrived… Well Sort Of”. 101 things… Ways that you think you're there. You've got the enlightenment. You've got the aha! You've made it to the top… And it's like, yeah, no, not really. That's about those spiritual awakenings, spiritual insights. Places where we think, oh I've got it now! And it's like oh no, I guess I don't… I've arrived, but not really. So those are just some of the books that I've written. They pretty well write themselves. It's really important as a creative, and this is part of the expression element of who I am. These books are like, tapping me on the shoulder, “Whatever you're doing, stop. You gotta write.” And they just come! They just come. And there's a book I want to write on spiritual immersion, which is the podcast you've perhaps been listening. I want to write a book on that, because people need to read about la la la! It's not coming! It's not coming! I'm trying fourteen different ways, and it's not coming… So, that's… You know, if they don't want to, they don't want to! I will tell you, I'm working on a new course. In essence it's called Mastering The Art of Transformational Coaching. A year-long program that includes the fundamentals of transformational coaching, more advanced, and then spiritual coaching. It's probably about six months out, I think, until that starts. That is really a heart's desire, passion as well. So I think that will include the spiritual immersion elements. But it's something that's actually happening. I'm actually sitting down, and it's happening. I'm saying it that way, as opposed to “I'm doing it.” It's doing me! Interesting! Yeah! And people say, “How do you write a book?” It's like, “Well, how do you make a baby?” The baby will make itself. You just do the first part. Get your computer, get your pencil, or whatever, and it will make itself, if it wants. And if you get out of the way. But if you say, “Well I gotta make a boy baby, and it's gonna have, you know, purple eyes.” That's not gonna happen! Not now, anyway. If you want to write, and there's a creative thing that wants to come through, the way to make room for that is to make room for it. If I had said, “Yeah no, I'm not gonna write, cause I got a C- in high school, you know, AND I had to take remedial English in college. Who am I to write a book?” It's like, the book wanted to get written, and I had to get out of the way, truly. Yeah, I love that. I love to write also, and it's very inspiring hearing you talk about how you wrote your books. Cause I have been thinking like, “Wow, how do I write a book?” It's like, you just do it! (Laughs) People are like, oh here's the BOOK. But when this fellow… I almost remember his name. When he said, “You don't have to write a book. You just write a blog. Twenty-six blogs.” And that's what happened. Aside from the 101 series, that's pretty much what it is. One blog at a time. Aging Like A Guru. That's one blog at a time. Diet Like A Guru. That's one blog at a time. And I wrote Parent Like A Guru. That's one blog at a time. But you put it together, it's a little book! They're not big. They're concise, and available. You do it because, just like anything else, you love it. I love to paint. I'm not selling my paintings. The books are there if people want to buy them. It's awesome. And like I said, they're in different languages. That's awesome. It's fun, right, because you created it. Does it mean I'm gonna be a millionaire, and be on the Best Seller list? No, that's not the point. The point is that it wanted to get written. I wrote it. I honored my agreement. And you send it on its way. Yeah, I love that! You show up! You say, “Hey, I saw you on Daily Om!” I went, “Wow!” Cause that book, that course was written from Self-Empowerment 101. Right, How To Stop Giving Your Power Away. That's right. That's the title that they came up with. I started out with Self-Empowerment 101. They go, “Yeah, that's not gonna sell.” So Daily Om took it, did what they did. And you go, “Oh, who's this person? That sounds interesting!” You call me, and now we're having a conversation, cause I wrote a book I wrote sixteen years ago. You never know! Amazing, I love that. How do you define success? Well. The vision statement that I have, which is what I'll start with, is the fulfillment of the human spirit. So when I have a sense and quality of fulfillment, that for me is success. I would like to have more money coming in—that would be great, that would be fun. And so how do I describe myself without making money an element of success? It can't be, it never was. Or… Let me put it this way. We have a hierarchy of values. And my fear-based value says, “Money! Cause money is gonna give me stability and security!” But when I really look at how I live my life, my choices do not come from money. It comes from my heart, and connecting, and empowering, and supporting, and learning, and expanding myself. Though this may sound crazy, cause it does, cause it sounds woo-woo, but the greater my capacity to be with in alignment with my essential nature, I start to have more ethereal qualities of experience. More enlightened experiences. I go, “Wow! WOW!” Like that kind of experiences are occurring in my life. And that is so much more valuable than money. And then two days later, it's like, “Where's the money?” (Laughs) It's like, “Stop! You had that experience, remember? And you said this is more important…” So we have those dilemmas, I do! Like, money! Eh!! But that's… The greater the degree I know myself, and what is the fullest potential of me? A lot of different people say we are 100% potentiality. If I am 100% potentiality, what does that look like? What's possible? And if I brought myself here, from this dysfunctional kid, Catholic school, radical dysfunction, alcoholic parents, six of nine kids, C-, below-average IQ, and I'm talking here talking to you, with this level of quality of delight in my own being… That's success for me. That's like, oh my god! And my relationship with my daughter continues to grow—that's success. I've become a kinder, more generous human being. That's success. And for me to say those things… I'd say I want that to be, but I was still in the angst of, where's the money? Where's the security, and stability? I don't have a 401K, I don't have a savings account. I don't have those things that you're supposed to have, right. I'm here right now, talking to you, and who knows? Who knows. I don't have those elements of what fame and fortune, or success, looks like. Right. In the consensus reality. Yeah, the consensus reality. Yes, nicely put. Five stars for that one. (Laughs) Thank you. (Laughs) Wow… I guess… What is something you've learned about yourself, just in the past year, if you can articulate one thing? That's a big question. I think that last year I was faced with a lot of… This is where we're doing the life theme resolution piece. I was facing a lot of circumstances that showed me that I was alone, and insignificant, incompetent, basically… That would be my interpretation of the circumstances that were showing up. The trauma… I believe we come in with trauma. That we're not just traumatized in this life, but past-life traumas, or the traumas of our ancestors. We come in with that. That's part of our life theme resolution, is overcoming the trauma, letting go of the fear, so that we can be here now. So I had to face these ongoing… What felt like traumas, what was really my own making up of how horrible, terrible I was… And how incompetent I was… And so little by little, I was able to diminish that energy, and heal that place, so that I could be with stuff that happens without going into a trauma response. Getting triggered into a trauma response… So that's like, that's huge! And I can do it, anybody can do it. Truly. I really believe that. Because I grew up in such a dysfunctional, constrained, constricted orientation in life, I had to do things the way that I was brought up to do them. And here I am, being as best I can, an individual that is individuated, and attempting to know myself to greater degrees… What's my choice? Versus somebody else's choice. I'll give you one more little example. I was sitting on the couch, this was months ago. And it's gray… And I'm 70… And I'm going, “This is as good as it's gonna get. You're living in a trailer, lady. And you probably aren't gonna get married again. So you'd better get used to this. This is it.” It's a decline. As you put it, withering, right… Decline into decrepitude. You'd better just get used to it. And it's like, okay… And I'm starting to go, “Wait, that's that consensus reality!” It just consumes us. You know, 90% of people 70 and older are on medications. It doesn't have to be that way. I'm not on any medication. But it was like, okay this is beginning to consume me. And I had to go, “Stop! We gotta stop! We gotta stop looking at life this way. Because this is not who you are. You know this is not who you are. We have to make that paradigm shift.” And it was a struggle! And uncomfortable. Deep grief that came up. Stuff! Just stuff comes up. That's what happens when you're on a path of life theme resolution, or exploring and wanting, the desires. It takes a lot of work. But if you don't do it, I could have sat on the couch and declined into decrepitude, and gotten sick, more depressed. And uncomfortable, and lonely, and isolated. That's not comfortable either. We're just always in choice. So that was really a wonderful moment, of going, “Wait a second, which reality am I going to choose?” Pull out the magic, fairy godmother wand for myself and say, “Which one are you going to choose here, lady? Cause you're the mouth of empowerment, and enlightenment, and delight, and wonder. You gonna walk your talk, or are you gonna go down the rabbit hole of depression and get sick and die? That's up to you.” And that's up to every one of us to make those kinds of choices.  Wow. Yeah. (Laughs) I'm laughing cause like… That's the kind of work I do! Yeah, that's great! Hell no! Not calling that woman, no way. (Laughs) I love that you did the magic wand thing for yourself. That's amazing. That really shows, the stuff you do for your clients, you do it for yourself, cause it works! That's right. Yeah, and it's tough. With therapy, you can only take your client as far as you're willing to go. If I have fears around… Whatever, doesn't matter, then I'm not gonna be good at supporting people through that fear. If I don't want to go there… If I do go there, and go there for myself, feel the fear, feel the stuff, and the junk. Help the client explore that, “What's that junk? I can see it right there? What is that?” And they go, “What are you talking about?” “That!” And they go, “Oh, that?” And I try to have fun with it. You and I are laughing! It's serious, and it's difficult. But it's also playful and humorous. I go, “What is that?” And I'm smiling and laughing, and they're going, “Oh my god… Why are you… You crazy lady.” And I go, “No really, what is that?” Yeah. Because I know that place. I know it. And I have great, deep compassion, for myself, being in this curriculum, and supporting other people in choosing this curriculum of choosing human spirit stuff. And the fulfillment of the human spirit—huge, HUGE commitment. So I have nothing but respect for a person who calls me and says, “I want to work with you.” I go, “Oh my god, I am honored.” Cause they want to step into their knowing, their full knowing of who they are as a human spirit, a contribution, contributor to the well-being of all of us. Truly. Yeah… Yeah. Wow. That's pretty much all of my questions. Is there anything else you wanted to talk about that we didn't get to, or that I didn't ask? No, I think you did a really great job. Thank you! I was so pleased back to hear back from you so quickly! I was like, “Oh wow! Yay!” I actually had a tab with your website, and I was looking through it and thinking, “Wow, she's done so much!” And there was a part of me that was thinking, “Hmm… I don't know. Maybe she's too important for me to reach out.” And I didn't, for many days! But I thought you know what, I'm just gonna send an email. Worst that could happen: never hear back. I've been rejected before, I can handle it again! (Laughs) And thank you for saying that, because I have a lot of people who call me, or email me for coaching, or training or something, and their thoughts are “Oh, she's too busy” Or “She's too important.” And I go, “Hell no! I want to play!!” I am not too important, I am not too busy to engage with people. Because I love it, and I want to. I do want to offer, there's an organization I'm connected with, it's called suivera.org. And their mission is heart leadership, growing the world and growing communities in the world from the heart. So I'm one of the people that are part of that organization. And on that website, there is something called the Inward Bound Bootcamp for Self-Transformation. And I wrote this, you can find parts of it on YouTube, if you go to my channel, Rosie Kuhn. You can see part of that course. It's $7, I think, for 21 or 22 videos, downloaded PDF book. And it's really about the basics of the self-transformation process. If you want to know about self-transformation from my perspective, this one might be a great beginner course for people. It's called, again, Inward Bound Bootcamp for Self-Transformation. It's $7, I believe. It includes the book, the manual, which if you bought it on Amazon it's $10. So even for $7 you're saving some money, if you're interested! So that's a place to go if you're interested, if your audience is interested! Great! And your website, is it TheParadigmShifts.com? Yep! TheParadigmShifts.com (emphasis on plural). You can google Rosie Kuhn, rosiekuhn@theparadigmshifts.com is my email. Or check out the website. There's lot of free blogs and information, and if you're interested in training with me, give me a call. Right now I'm doing primarily one-on-one coach training. Because it helps people who are already at a level of knowledge, and wisdom, and experience, and they just want to take it into the more pragmatic elements of what I do. So that's what I do. And then there's coaching! Great! You have a YouTube channel as well, you have a couple Podcasts, is there anywhere else? Do you have an Instagram? I'm on Instagram, I'm not that busy… Just we keep up with what's going on. I started a new Podcast with a friend of mine. She has a Podcast called Food Integrity Now. And we joined forces, and our Podcast is called Beyond Food Integrity: Thriving Like A Guru. Her name is Carol Grieve. So Beyond Food Integrity: Thriving Like A Guru that's our new conversation, the two of us together. It's kinda fun! Great! Well thank you so much! This has been wonderful. I'm so glad we got to connect! Me too! And any time you wanna reach out again, or talk again or whatever, just let me know! It would be fun. — The Inward Bound Bootcamp for Self-Transformation can be found at www.suivera.org/b7-inward-bound-bootcamp.

On this week's mid-week episode, tune in as Adam interviews Hans Phillips about the humans (ourselves) in the coaching profession, what they see, what they are challenged by, and so and so forth. 

I dagens program har Teis lagt op til en indadskuende og intim stund, da han har taget Hans Phillips plade Forevigt med. Lo-fi klavermemoer, dansksproget poesi fra øverste skuffe og en rendyrket følelse af at føle sig ‘blå', er lyden af denne plade - men er den for tung til at konkurrere med programmets top 5?

What makes the ultimate difference between a beginner coach and a masterful coach? In this conversation with high performance consultant Hans Phillips we explore the shift from good coaching to masterful coaching, the dynamics of ease and flow, integrity in the coaching industry, intuition and ongoing personal development, helping clients with visioning blockages and the importance of having a healthy work/life balance as a coach. Hans Phillips is a high performance consultant who works with clients around the world, supporting them personally and professionally to create and maintain sustainable high performance and the enjoyment of life. His work is based on emotional intelligence, conscious living, ontology, and phenomenology. Hans provides consulting, training, and coaching for achievement-oriented clients, specializing in helping them create new avenues of communication and authenticity as well as creating new velocity in their projects.

On this week’s mid-week episode, tune in as Adam interviews Hans Phillips about the humans (ourselves) in the coaching profession, what they see, what they are challenged by, and so and so forth.

Hans Phillips, High Perfomance Coach & Founder of Ontoco, providing consulting, training and coaching for achievement-oriented clients worldwide joins Enterprise Radio. The post Executive Performance Consultant Hans Phillips on Being “Olympic” With Your Time as an Entrepreneur appeared first on Enterprise Podcast Network - EPN.

Welcome to the first episode!   Our guests for this show, Hans and Desiree Phillips, really exemplify the work of relationships -  which makes them perfect guests for our kick off.  These two have been together for 27 years, they have been through it all, and they just keep getting stronger!   In this episode Hans and Desiree discuss how they have overcome some of the most difficult issues any couple ever faces and keep coming out more in love than ever.   Enjoy the show! You can find Hans Phillips at http://ontoco.com You can find Desiree Phillips at http://glowpower.net Music Disco con Tutti Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

A Master Coach, Hans Phillips provides training and coaching for executives worldwide. He supports executives to discover permanent solutions to long-term problems. With a focus on balanced high performance, Hans works with executives to transform themselves and their actions. He also assists with creating new avenues of communication and workable relationships with others. Whether the project is professional or personal, Hans has the experience and ability to create lasting change. Using proven methods and philosophies, Hans helps his clients get what has been just out of reach. His clients report high levels of satisfaction and powerful new results.

Welcome to Success Unwrapped with Heather Vale, the weekly online radio talk show that unwraps and reveals the secrets of success! This week's special guest is Hans Phillips, coach, trainer, and the creator of Being University which teaches people how to discover their essence and step out of their comfort zones. Hans has helped hundreds of clients step into their power, change their lives, and flourish in their chosen field. His upcoming seminars are at Biz Network News. With all SEASON 5 episodes of Success Unwrapped with Heather Vale, you get the first 1/3 of the interview FREE, right here! In this first segment with Hans, you'll discover what ontology is, how your being relates to your body, how to "be with" whatever happens to you, how to know what choice to take when you're at a fork in the road, how to read your inner compass, what your inner survival mechanism is, and more! To unwrap the whole interview, which reveals how to find the drive to keep getting out of your comfort zone, what comes along with the discomfort, whether to listen to your head or your heart, the essence of who you are, how to uncover what you already know about your purpose, how to deal with your internal boundaries, and much more... just become a Success Unwrapped Member! It's not free, but it's about as close as you can get... and you'll get so much more than just the interviews, too! To PLAY the Show CLICK THE GREEN ARROW BUTTON BELOW: V V V V V