Podcast appearances and mentions of pamela samuels young

#OntheAirwithFlorenza #AuthorsOnTheAir #AuthorsOnTheAirGlobalRadioPodcast #authorinterview #SoundsLikeAPlan #NewRelease #NewLegalThriller #AmazonNewRelease #AtriaBooksNewRelease #AtriaBooks #Bookstogram #BlackTwitter Known for her exceptional writing and legal expertise, Pamela Samuels Young has been honored with multiple awards. She has earned the nickname “John Grisham with a sister's twist,” highlighting her unique storytelling style. Her gripping legal thrillers entertain and tackle significant social issues, earning her an NAACP Image Award for her impactful work. Dwayne Alexander Smith, a talented screenwriter and author, has received the prestigious NAACP Image Award for his captivating novel “Forty Acres.” He has a remarkable ability to captivate audiences with compelling narratives, whether it's through his writing or on the screen. SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN One Missing Person. Two Rival Detectives. Infinite Chemistry. This rollicking thrill ride told in alternating “he said/she said” perspectives is an irresistible blend of mystery, sexual tension, and humor.

#OntheAirwithFlorenza #AuthorsOnTheAir #AuthorsOnTheAirGlobalRadioPodcast #authorinterview #SoundsLikeAPlan #NewRelease #NewLegalThriller #AmazonNewRelease #AtriaBooksNewRelease #AtriaBooks #Bookstogram #BlackTwitter Known for her exceptional writing and legal expertise, Pamela Samuels Young has been honored with multiple awards. She has earned the nickname “John Grisham with a sister's twist,” highlighting her unique storytelling style. Her gripping legal thrillers entertain and tackle significant social issues, earning her an NAACP Image Award for her impactful work. Dwayne Alexander Smith, a talented screenwriter and author, has received the prestigious NAACP Image Award for his captivating novel “Forty Acres.” He has a remarkable ability to captivate audiences with compelling narratives, whether it's through his writing or on the screen. SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN One Missing Person. Two Rival Detectives. Infinite Chemistry. This rollicking thrill ride told in alternating “he said/she said” perspectives is an irresistible blend of mystery, sexual tension, and humor.

This month I have an interesting conversation with NAACP Image Award Winner, Pamela Samuels Young. She writes thrillers that are heavy on suspense. A retired attorney, like many of my guests, she made the transition from practicing law to writing full-time. Now her career is on a new trajectory with co-authoring in the mix. Let’s […]

Pamela Samuels Young (In-House Attorney and Author of Four Award Winning Legal Thrillers) “Pursuing Your Passion While Balancing Your Day Job”

#SheDaredToDreamMC: I know this past week was such a disappointment to many with the less than favorable outcome for the Breonna Taylor's case and the passing of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I want to try and allay the uncomfortable feelings many of us are having by bringing you 21 women Who Dared to Dream!   Sept. 27-Sept. 30 BAN Radio Show and Crown Holders Transmedia will feature women speakers and authors that are here to bring you peace, joy and tips for making a way out of no way. Watch my page for the program listings!   Featured Speakers and Authors 1)  Antoinette R. Davis   2)  CeCe Fann    3)  Cerece Rennie Murphy   4)  Cheryl Mattox Berry 5)  Imani Wisdom  - Pearl Page  6)  Janet Autherine   7)  Joan Vassar   8)  Joylynn M. Ross   9)  Lisa Blackmon   10)  Lisa Renee Johnson   11)  Lutishia Lovely   12)  Nina Foxx   13)  Pamela Samuels Young   14)  Patricia A. Bridewell  15)  Patricia A. Saunders 16)  Paulette Harper - Pearl Page 17)  Shelia E. Bell - Pearl Page 18)  Suzette D. Harrison   19)  Taressa Stovall   20)  Terri Coleman Martinez 21)  Yvonne Evans-Strachan  Crown Holders Presents:  She Dared to Dream Masterclasses Who you become and how you experience the world is a result of how you see everything that exists around you, says author  Janet Autherine in her new book, Island Mindfulness: How to Use the Transformational Power of Mindfulness to Live an Abundant Life.

Crown Holders Conversations Day 10 Crown Holders Transmedia is the parent company of EDC Creations Media Group, the Sankofa Literary Society, the Black Authors Network Radio Show and Black Pearls Magazine. The Sankofa Literary Society empowers independent and/or self-published authors through mentoring programs.   The popular BAN radio program offers new authors a chance to showcase their books to thousands of international readers weekly. Black Pearls Magazine, is an online literary destination for thousands bookclubs and social network fans around the globe. Thursday Night May 14, 2020 Featured Authors and Books  - Failure to Protect by Pamela Samuels Young (Pre-recorded Pearl Page Reading) - Seeds of Deception by Arlene L. Walker  (Pre-recorded Pearl Page Reading) - Capital Sins by Cheryl Mattox Berry (Pre-recorded Pearl Page Reading) - Duplicity: The Mince Family Saga Continues by Nanette M. Buchanan READ MORE ABOUT OUR GUESTS AT:  http://crownholderstransmedia.com Crown Holders Transmedia and EDC Creations Media Group has evolved from a one-person event planning operation to one of the nation’s leading African American, woman owned, Internet publicity and book promotion firms. Crown Holders Transmedia and EDC Creations are a marketing, branding, and PR firm that specializes in book promotion, Internet 3.0 marketing campaigns for artists in film and music, brand coaching and RSS feed syndication for businesses, new authors and entrepreneurs.   

This week I am featuring mystery author Pamela Samuels Young, the author of the Vernetta Henderson Series and Dre Thomas Series. Books in the Vernetta Henderson Series Every Reasonable Doubt In Firm Pursuit Murder on the Down Low Attorney-Client Privilege Lawful Deception Books in the Dre Thomas Series Buying Time Anybody's Daughter Abuse of Discretion Failure to Protect

Bobbi and I had an interesting conversation with writer Pamela Samuels Young last Thursday. A former lawyer, she is now an advocate against school bullying and child suicide. Give a listen!

Appearing on this episode of Money Making Conversations is Pamela Samuels Young, Attorney, Legal Thriller Author and a frequent speaker on child sex trafficking, bullying, online safety, and self-empowerment.Each Money Making Conversations show hosted by Rushion McDonald is about entrepreneurship and entertainment. We provide the consumer and business owner access to Celebrities, CEOs, Entrepreneurs and Industry Decision Makers. They in turn deliver information about career planning, motivation, financial literacy and how they lead a balanced life.Don't miss Money Making Conversations with host Rushion McDonald anytime through our iHeartRadio Podcast, which can be found under the Business/Finance Section, Fridays at 10AM ET on SiriusXM Channel 141: H.U.R. Voices and Fridays at 7PM ET on SiriusXM Channel 142: HBCU. We want to keep you Winning with your Career and your Life! #AskMMCThe Money Making Conversations radio talk show shares the “Secrets To Success” experienced firsthand by marketing and branding expert Rushion McDonald. Mr. McDonald is a brand guru and has been a marketer for major national and global brands like State Farm, Ford and Home Depot. He has worked with Kevin Hart, Stephen A. Smith, Jamie Foxx and most notably, Steve Harvey and will provide access to women and multicultural markets to expand the reach of your brand. The show features one-on-one career advice to callers, contributions from corporate leaders, successful entrepreneurs, celebrity interviews regarding their business ventures, social media branding, financial planning and information to empower small businesses to a path of success!“The Kind of Talk that Inspires Change.”https://www.facebook.com/MoneyMakingConversations/https://www.iheart.com/podcast/53-Money-Making-Conversations-28341098/https://open.spotify.com/show/3ABAQdTXqAnhGwxrsjFa5yhttps://www.rushionmcdonald.com/https://www.facebook.com/rushionmcdonald/https://twitter.com/RushionMcDonaldhttps://www.instagram.com/rushionmcdonald/https://www.linkedin.com/in/rushionmcdonaldhttps://am920theanswer.com/radioshow/7908Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSupport the show: https://www.steveharveyfm.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Appearing on this episode of Money Making Conversations is Russell Hornsby, Award-winning Actor whose recent works include “The Hate U Give,” “Creed II,” “Fences,” and “Seven Seconds.” Hornsby now stars as the lead character in NBC's “Lincoln Rhyme: Hunt for the Bone Collector”; Pamela Samuels Young, Attorney, Legal Thriller Author and a frequent speaker on child sex trafficking, bullying, online safety, and self-empowerment; Prince Donnell, CEO of Jumping Jack Taxes, the largest Black owner, under 25 years of age, of a tax corporation in America; and Sylvia Weddington, Owner of Weddington Realty, Philanthropist, Licensed Real Estate Broker in Georgia, Florida, and Texas.Each Money Making Conversations show hosted by Rushion McDonald is about entrepreneurship and entertainment. We provide the consumer and business owner access to Celebrities, CEOs, Entrepreneurs and Industry Decision Makers. They in turn deliver information about career planning, motivation, financial literacy and how they lead a balanced life.Don't miss Money Making Conversations with host Rushion McDonald anytime through our iHeartRadio Podcast, which can be found under the Business/Finance Section, Fridays at 10AM ET on SiriusXM Channel 141: H.U.R. Voices and Fridays at 7PM ET on SiriusXM Channel 142: HBCU. We want to keep you Winning with your Career and your Life! #AskMMCThe Money Making Conversations radio talk show shares the “Secrets To Success” experienced firsthand by marketing and branding expert Rushion McDonald. Mr. McDonald is a brand guru and has been a marketer for major national and global brands like State Farm, Ford and Home Depot. He has worked with Kevin Hart, Stephen A. Smith, Jamie Foxx and most notably, Steve Harvey and will provide access to women and multicultural markets to expand the reach of your brand. The show features one-on-one career advice to callers, contributions from corporate leaders, successful entrepreneurs, celebrity interviews regarding their business ventures, social media branding, financial planning and information to empower small businesses to a path of success!“The Kind of Talk that Inspires Change.”https://www.facebook.com/MoneyMakingConversations/https://www.iheart.com/podcast/53-Money-Making-Conversations-28341098/https://open.spotify.com/show/3ABAQdTXqAnhGwxrsjFa5yhttps://www.rushionmcdonald.com/https://www.facebook.com/rushionmcdonald/https://twitter.com/RushionMcDonaldhttps://www.instagram.com/rushionmcdonald/https://www.linkedin.com/in/rushionmcdonaldhttps://am920theanswer.com/radioshow/7908Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSupport the show: https://www.steveharveyfm.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Appearing on this episode of Money Making Conversations is Russell Hornsby, Award-winning Actor whose recent works include “The Hate U Give,” “Creed II,” “Fences,” and “Seven Seconds.” Hornsby now stars as the lead character in NBC’s “Lincoln Rhyme: Hunt for the Bone Collector”; Pamela Samuels Young, Attorney, Legal Thriller Author and a frequent speaker on child sex trafficking, bullying, online safety, and self-empowerment; Prince Donnell, CEO of Jumping Jack Taxes, the largest Black owner, under 25 years of age, of a tax corporation in America; and Sylvia Weddington, Owner of Weddington Realty, Philanthropist, Licensed Real Estate Broker in Georgia, Florida, and Texas.Each Money Making Conversations show hosted by Rushion McDonald is about entrepreneurship and entertainment. We provide the consumer and business owner access to Celebrities, CEOs, Entrepreneurs and Industry Decision Makers. They in turn deliver information about career planning, motivation, financial literacy and how they lead a balanced life.Don’t miss Money Making Conversations with host Rushion McDonald anytime through our iHeartRadio Podcast, which can be found under the Business/Finance Section, Fridays at 10AM ET on SiriusXM Channel 141: H.U.R. Voices and Fridays at 7PM ET on SiriusXM Channel 142: HBCU. We want to keep you Winning with your Career and your Life! #AskMMCThe Money Making Conversations radio talk show shares the “Secrets To Success” experienced firsthand by marketing and branding expert Rushion McDonald. Mr. McDonald is a brand guru and has been a marketer for major national and global brands like State Farm, Ford and Home Depot. He has worked with Kevin Hart, Stephen A. Smith, Jamie Foxx and most notably, Steve Harvey and will provide access to women and multicultural markets to expand the reach of your brand. The show features one-on-one career advice to callers, contributions from corporate leaders, successful entrepreneurs, celebrity interviews regarding their business ventures, social media branding, financial planning and information to empower small businesses to a path of success!“The Kind of Talk that Inspires Change.”https://www.facebook.com/MoneyMakingConversations/https://www.iheart.com/podcast/53-Money-Making-Conversations-28341098/https://open.spotify.com/show/3ABAQdTXqAnhGwxrsjFa5yhttps://www.rushionmcdonald.com/https://www.facebook.com/rushionmcdonald/https://twitter.com/RushionMcDonaldhttps://www.instagram.com/rushionmcdonald/https://www.linkedin.com/in/rushionmcdonaldhttps://am920theanswer.com/radioshow/7908

Appearing on this episode of Money Making Conversations is Pamela Samuels Young, Attorney, Legal Thriller Author and a frequent speaker on child sex trafficking, bullying, online safety, and self-empowerment.Each Money Making Conversations show hosted by Rushion McDonald is about entrepreneurship and entertainment. We provide the consumer and business owner access to Celebrities, CEOs, Entrepreneurs and Industry Decision Makers. They in turn deliver information about career planning, motivation, financial literacy and how they lead a balanced life.Don’t miss Money Making Conversations with host Rushion McDonald anytime through our iHeartRadio Podcast, which can be found under the Business/Finance Section, Fridays at 10AM ET on SiriusXM Channel 141: H.U.R. Voices and Fridays at 7PM ET on SiriusXM Channel 142: HBCU. We want to keep you Winning with your Career and your Life! #AskMMCThe Money Making Conversations radio talk show shares the “Secrets To Success” experienced firsthand by marketing and branding expert Rushion McDonald. Mr. McDonald is a brand guru and has been a marketer for major national and global brands like State Farm, Ford and Home Depot. He has worked with Kevin Hart, Stephen A. Smith, Jamie Foxx and most notably, Steve Harvey and will provide access to women and multicultural markets to expand the reach of your brand. The show features one-on-one career advice to callers, contributions from corporate leaders, successful entrepreneurs, celebrity interviews regarding their business ventures, social media branding, financial planning and information to empower small businesses to a path of success!“The Kind of Talk that Inspires Change.”https://www.facebook.com/MoneyMakingConversations/https://www.iheart.com/podcast/53-Money-Making-Conversations-28341098/https://open.spotify.com/show/3ABAQdTXqAnhGwxrsjFa5yhttps://www.rushionmcdonald.com/https://www.facebook.com/rushionmcdonald/https://twitter.com/RushionMcDonaldhttps://www.instagram.com/rushionmcdonald/https://www.linkedin.com/in/rushionmcdonaldhttps://am920theanswer.com/radioshow/7908

I repeated my thirty seconds of speeding up and thirty seconds of rest method, sprinting around the park's track. I was panting hard when I rounded the bend coming back to where I'd started. I veered off the track, my sneakers crunching on the gravel, and I slowed to a walk heading towards the playground area to hit the drinking fountain over by the swings. The swings were moving from the tiniest breeze, but otherwise all was quiet. The water in the fountain was warm, and I let it cascade over the side of the bowl for a minute. I tested it with my hand, then leaned down and slurped some of the metallic-tasting, still-warm water. I closed my eyes and let the water splash into my face, shaking it off like a dog and wiping my eyes with my shirt. "Over here, please help me!" A woman's voice yelped through sobs. -- Elizabeth McCourt, Sin in the Big Easy I am delighted to chat with debut mystery author, Elizabeth McCourt. An executive coach and former trial attorney, she brings a realism to the story, and not just the courtroom scenes. Elizabeth brings nuance to all her characters, but especially her protagonist, Abby Callahan, in the first of a projected series, Sin in the Big Easy. Check out Elizabeth's website here (she's also on Twitter and Instagram), but also don't miss her TEDx talk, which appropriately enough is on the burden of carrying secrets. She also gives a shout-out to one of my favorite reads, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. Woot!  Sin in the Big Easy also deals with human trafficking, which is a terrifying and important issue. I can't help but mention Peg Brantley's book, Trafficked. Since I interviewed Peg, it has won several awards and continues to add to the national discussion. Also, if you have teenagers in the house, a good way to open up the discussion would be to check out author Pamela Samuels Young's YA version of her own novel, #Anybody's Daughter, which deals with domestic trafficking and teen safety. If you want to learn more or if you know someone who might need help, CNN recently published a list of organizations around the world who are fighting human trafficking. The nonprofit Elizabeth mentions in New Orleans that helps women who have survived trafficking is Eden House. Their mission is "Heal, Empower, Dream," and they offer prevention education as well as resources and recovery services. As always, if you'd rather read than listen, a transcript is below. Enjoy! -- Laura ********************************************************************* Transcript of Interview with Elizabeth McCourt Laura Brennan: Elizabeth McCourt is a certified executive coach, top-ranked financial recruiter, professional speaker -- and now, mystery author. Her debut thriller, Sin in the Big Easy, introduces attorney Abby Callahan, a woman whose personal life is even more complicated than her most recent case. Elizabeth, thank you for joining me. Elizabeth McCourt: Hey, Laura. Thank you so much for having me on your podcast. LB: So you have a fascinating background. EM: Oh, thank you. Thank you. Yes, everyone said to me, really? Mystery writer? Where did that come from? LB: Well, now, how did you start out? Did you start out in the financial market? EM: I started out right after college at Morgan Stanley, as an analyst. But then I went to law school. I didn't like that so much, and so I went to law school in New Orleans and fell in love with the city. Although I didn't stay there; moved out west and then, sort of full-circle, became a headhunter and then a coach. But this love of New Orleans and writing was with me throughout my life I would say. And so it just seemed, as this book evolved, to have it in New Orleans and use my legal background in some way just made sense and worked for the book. LB: Yes, one of those lesser-known uses of law school is getting to write legal thrillers. EM: Exactly! Yes, I feel like I have to use my legal background somewhere and writing i...

If Max Montgomery ever had to commit to monogamy to save his wife's life, she would just have to come back and haunt him from the afterlife. Max rested his forearm on the registration desk as his eyes anxiously crisscrossed the lobby of the Beverly Hills Ritz-Carlton. He watched as people milled about, dressed in tuxedos and evening gowns. He made eye-contact with a short, brown-skinned cutie who sashayed by in dress so tight he could see the faint outline of her thong. Max smiled. She smiled back. Too bad he was already about to get laid. Otherwise, he definitely would have taken the time to follow up on that. -- Every Reasonable Doubt, Pamela Samuels Young My conversation with Pamela Samuels Young spanned so many important issues and so many good books, I wasn't sure which one to give you a taste of. But I went with her first published novel, Every Reasonable Doubt, a legal thriller which opens with Max, as he goes to keep a date he'll never forget.  His last. Pamela writes powerful legal thrillers and protagonists who have complicated, messy relationships. She's been called John Grisham with a female twist -- and, I would argue, a gift for creating characters you want to follow in case after case.  She also delves into difficult and important safety issues, especially if you have a teenager in your life. And she makes it easy (well, easier) for you to address these issues with your children, having adapted two of her own novels for middle school and up: #Abuse of Discretion on the very real legal dangers of sexting, and #Anybody's Daughter on the terrifying world of sex trafficking right here in the United States. Regarding the epidemic of teenagers being prosecuted for sexting (and facing sentences that include both prison and registering as sex offenders), Pamela talks about a recent case in Minnesota. If you want further info, I have the ACLU statement here and the judicial outcome here. Newsweek offers a bleak, and sadly increasingly common story of a teenage boy whose life was devastated because of some ill-considered photos exchanged with his girlfriend.  Pamela has all her legal series in order on her website. Not listed there, but findable on Amazon, is her legal erotic novella, Unlawful Desires. If, you know, you need a change of pace. As always, the transcript is below if you'd rather read than listen. Enjoy! -- Laura ********************************************************************************************* Laura Brennan: Pamela Samuels Young is an attorney, author, and anti-trafficking advocate. Her award-winning thrillers shine a light on important issues like sex trafficking, online safety, and the juvenile justice system and include young adult mysteries, legal thrillers, and even an erotic suspense novella under her pen name, Sassy Sinclair. Pamela, thank you for joining me. Pamela Samuels Young: Thank you for having me. LB: So you don't just write about justice, you work for justice in real life. PSY: I previously did, sort of. I'm now full-time author, I've been retired from the practice of law for two years. I was actually an employment lawyer, employment defense. Discrimination, sexual harassment, cases of those matters. My last job was in house with Toyota. LB: I certainly think discrimination is one of the key aspects of working for justice. PSY: I completely agree. LB: How did you get into that field? Why did you decide to go into law? PSY: I was a journalism major in college, I went to USC. And I was convinced I was going to be the next Woodward and Bernstein. Then I spent a summer while at USC working in DC at a local television station, and that became my passion. So then I went to grad school directly afterwards and got a Master's in broadcasting and began working in TV news. And after about five or six years of TV news, most recently at KCBS in LA, I was completely burned out and decided to go to law school.

Jennifer Hill speaks to author, speaker and attorney, Pamela Samuels Young, about how she followed her dream after age 40 and became a top fiction writer. Pamela shares her story of some of the obstacles she faced in following her passion and provides insights on what allowed her to achieve sustainable success. pamelasamuelsyoung.com Attorney and award-winning author Pamela Samuels Young writes mysteries that matter. Her fast-paced legal thrillers tackle social issues such as sex trafficking, gender discrimination, and sexual harassment. Her most recent courtroom drama, Abuse of Discretion, examines a shocking teen sexting case. Anybody’s Daughter, which won the NAACP Image Award for Outstanding Fiction, provides an eye-opening look into the world of child sex trafficking. Pamela also writes erotic romance under the pen name, Sassy Sinclair. A former journalist, she received a bachelor’s degree from USC and also earned graduate degrees from Northwestern University and UC Berkeley School of Law. The Compton, California, native is a frequent speaker on the topics of child sex trafficking, fiction writing, and pursuing your passion.

Matt Westin - Matt is a country music singer/songwriter who just released his brand new album.  We talk to him about his passion for music, his influences, and what his new CD is all about.  Pamela Samuels Young - Pamela is a lawyer who is also the author of several court drama novels based on real life situations she's heard or encountered in court.  Her new novel "Abuse of Discretion" is a book about a 14 year old who finds himself in trouble for a texted sexual photo of a minor "sexting" and now could find himself on a sexual offender list.

Matt Westin - Matt is a country music singer/songwriter who just released his brand new album.  We talk to him about his passion for music, his influences, and what his new CD is all about.  Pamela Samuels Young - Pamela is a lawyer who is also the author of several court drama novels based on real life situations she's heard or encountered in court.  Her new novel "Abuse of Discretion" is a book about a 14 year old who finds himself in trouble for a texted sexual photo of a minor "sexting" and now could find himself on a sexual offender list.

Hello everyon and welcome back to the show. In this episode, Patrick talks with Pamela Samuels Young. She is a succesful lawyer who became a very successful author and sought after motivational speaker. For fifteen years, Pamela served as Managing Counsel for Toyota in Southern California, specializing in labor and employment law. While still practicing law, she began moonlighting as a mystery writer because of her desire to see women and people of color depicted in the legal thrillers she read. She is a graduate of UC Berkeley's School of Law, a bachelors degree in journalism from USC and a masters degree in broadcasting from Northwestern University's Medill School of Journalism.  She has received numerous awards and she is a frequent speaker on the topics of sex-trafficking, fiction and writing and pursuing your passion. There are a lot of topics discussed in this great episode so enjoy! You can find Pamela here: http://www.pamelasamuelsyoung.com/ http://pamelasamuels-young.com/books/index.html @authorPSY https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamela-samuels-young-3230a16/   Enjoy this and other episodes at www.cjevolution.net   Patrick    

Today’s guest is Pamela Samuels Young, award-winning author of Anybody’s Daughter, Every Reasonable Doubt, Murder on the Down Low, and the upcoming Abuse of Discretion. Young talked to Daniel Ford recently about how a desire to see more minority characters in legal thrillers led her to storytelling, her early morning writing process, and her work as an anti-trafficking advocate.

Gifted Authour Pamela Young stops by the show to discuss her new book "Buying Time" and her career as a successful author.

Monique Mensah and Pamela Samuels Young

Welcome to Reader's Entertainment Radio with our guest Pamela Samuels Young author of Murder on the Down Low. You can read an excerpt at her web site www.pamelasamuelsyoung.com

Her legal thrillers have been garnering praise since the first release, now Bestselling author Pamela Samuels-Young is ready to make history and spark discussion with her new book MURDER ON THE DOWN LOW.