The Lightest Form of Flogging

If you've ever tried to get gum off your shoe, you understand how hard it is to get rid of this podcast. You also understand how hard it is for us to get rid of Ben Robin. In this episode, he joins us again for another text adventure game. Also Jim and Ben get quite confrontational about David's covenanter-y beliefs.This episode is mastered in surround sound, so you may want to listen with headphones.Mentioned LinksBen's MapLeave us a voicemail and Ask Bill Anything: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

Sure, if you wanted to hear our End of Year Special from 2018, you could have just gone back and listened to episode 24. But we've made it easier for you by pretending a podcast feed is a radio station and replaying old content. You're welcome.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail and Ask Bill Anything: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

There comes a time in every podcast's life when they release an episode like this one. Probably. Most likely. I think so, anyway.We have some good conversations about Jim's anthophila-at-rest expression, then read some Mitch Hedberg jokes, then “vamp” in follow up for the rest of the show.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail and Ask Bill Anything: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

You have died of dysentery. Or rather, you'll wish you had. No, wait. The show is good now. Sorry, Jim. Anyway, in this episode we have Ben on to play a text adventure game called Flaming Goat! Since it wraps up pretty quickly, the three of us come up with a game about trains and Francis Schaffer on the fly. Then we talk a bunch about what's wrong with David. Lastly, Ben has a last word at the last.This episode was actually mastered in Dolby Atmos Spatial Audio—and while that won't come through 100% since it needed to be exported as an MP3 for podcasting, it is best listened to in stereo—so if you have headphones or some nice stereo speakers, maybe consider using them to listen.Mentioned LinksPurely Presbyterian articles on the Establishment Principle: One, Two, Three, and Four.Website: SermonSearchThe source for the text adventure game we played: Memento Mori. These are really fun with groups!

In this episode, we banter about Apple and pictures and stuff. Jim explains his deep desire for camouflage pants, possibly explaining his aversion to regular pants. We also talk a bit about COVID and Crossway, though as separate discussions. For the main course, we finish Jordan Peterson's book or something, I guess.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail and Ask Bill Anything: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

Um. I'm not sure what to write here. Officially, we covered two more chapters of Jordan Peterson's book. Unofficially, just listen and find out. Okay? I've got things to do, too. Was this description really something you were going to read and evaluate whether or not to listen to this episode? I didn't think so.Sorry, I think I just wanted to rush through writing this so I can quit staring at the show artwork. Yikes.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

In this episode, we first discuss Jim's interesting experience while camping. I don't want to say anymore because it's more dramatic that way. Anyway, David interprets data from experiment about soup and tries to recruit people for the musical.Our main topic is a combination of two chapters of Jordan Peterson's Twelve Rules for Life, because we're trying to finish it before we end the show. Is it worth it? We'll leave that for you, the listener, to decide.Mentioned LinksAsk Bill Anything! (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

In this episode, we can't help but talk a bunch about random things, knowing that we are only a few episodes away from our final episode. But then we gain (not regain) our composure a little and introduce our skit, which is a continuation of the saga surrounding poor Lester.Mentioned LinksVictor Borge - Phonetic Punctuation Youtube VideoAsk Bill Anything! (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

To kick things off, we have some fairly silly conversations about birds and Veggie Tales, and then we must give some grave news regarding Jim's participation on the show. But don't worry! This is not the end! It is but the beginning—but it is the beginning of the end, so there's that. I guess that was kind of misleading. Sorry.Anyway, for the meat of this, one of our last episodes, we discuss the two year anniversary of Relight: how and why David started it, an update on how it be, and plans for its future.Mentioned LinksRelight LinkThe Relight message boardLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

Well, listeners asked for it and we delivered. Our shortest ever intro to an FCU episode. We barely say anything at all and just dive right into the fun.Speaking of the fun, while Jim and David are in transit from Paris to their new-to-them-sorta homes in Broken Whistle Montana, we check in with a beloved character, Broken Whistle resident, and cardiac patient, Lester Branigan. I don't want to spoil anything, so I'll just say he's not having a good day. I won't say that it's a bad day, because that's in the title and it would get repetitive.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

Back in our obtusely shaped saddles, we dive into a more extended follow up section since this isn't an FCU episode. It's so good, honestly, we don't want to spoil it. For the main segment, we discuss Rule #6 of Jordan Peterson's 12 Principles for Life: Set Your House in Perfect Order Before You Criticize the World.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

In this episode, we finally explain our recent and unexpected hiatus—or rather Jim does. ”‘It's not my fault!' – Han Solo” – David MikuckiFor the meat of this episode, we conclude the Jim and David on the Run series. To say anything else would be a spoiler, and David hates spoilers, even for things he's already seen—yea, even for things he's made with his own hands. So you'll just have to listen, buster. Headphones or a quality stereo system is recommended. Actually, David just tried it and it's pretty cool to use iOS 15 with Spacialize Audio turned on—but he doesn't recommend installing the iOS 15 beta just for this.Credits: Martin Lloyd Jones helped, even though his voice was not heard audibly.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

Wow. It's been a while. This episode was actually recorded on May 21, just days before Jim would, as I (David) understand it, literally travel the entire United States of America without warning for something like 30 days. Impressive.Anyway, we tried to make up for it by including a lot of the silly banter we know you have come to love (and hate). We also dive into our main topic, which shouldn't upset anyone at all, really—parenting. It's Jordan's fault.Mentioned LinksJordan Peterson's Book we're discussing.That weird image of Bill we talked about.Leave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

In this episode, Jim tries to do an impression of Christopher Walken—like a lot. Jim injects some discussion of Albert Mohler, and David has a lot of follow up. Also we have our final (probably) discussion of LOST, since David finished the series.For the meat of our show, we've prepared the penultimate episode of Jim and David on the Run. If you like time travel, or if you will like time travel, you will or will have liked this episode, because it will have had a lot of it.Mentioned LinksThe episode that Jim will never forget.Leave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

We kick things off with silly discussion about some CCM artists: their names and their voices. After that, for production reasons, we have no follow up. We tried. We really did. But we had nothing. At least we also tried to make it funny. Again, we really tried.Our main discussion is a sort of smorgasbord of topics related to photography. We'd like to think everyone wants to take nice pictures of something at some point in their life—pictures of their pets, children, nieces, nephews, or HelloFresh meals. So David offers some tips on using your phone to take photos, as well as some tips on getting started as a professional photographer. For some reason Jim thought that last topic would be interesting enough to get started. Thankfully, a lot of the advice applies to any freelancing field in some way, so you can take comfort in that.Mentioned LinksDavid's blog post that he mentions again.Leave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

After a lot of aggressive negotiations, your hosts have figured out how they can make Flogging a theology podcast! This episode features our first (admittedly somewhat brief) theology discussion and David isn't even all that uncomfortable with it being released.The meat of the show continues the story of Jim and David on the run, picking up where the last episode left off with us being captured by Gary from Indiana. It's so exciting, you might get goosebumps. And if you don't, we can always have Jim come breathe on you for the same effect.Mentioned LinksThe XKCD comic to which David referred.Leave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

In this episode, we talk about who Paul Washer is talking about, then about coffee, then about Grudem, and then about LOST.For our main topic, we talk about photography and copying other people's work as a means to get better in a given art field. This stems out of our discussion of Jordan Peterson's Rule 4, which says you ought not to judge yourself in comparison to others.Mentioned LinksXKCD comic referenceA Philosophy of Photography – And the Rest of It post by David.Leave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

In this episode, we finally have a good amount of follow up from David to talk about. Finally! Anyway, we slog through some quick points, then discuss the idea that grown men tend to start podcasts with other grown men because they want substantive friendships but don't want to be perceived as effeminate. So that's fun.Our main content is the second part of the series “Jim and David on the Run,” in which we run from the government, driving Bill Hasinger's car from Spokane Valley heading to Denver, CO. Shenanigans ensue, and yes—they beget more shenanigansMentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

I'm on vacation, so these notes will be brief. We talk about Lost, David being wrong, and talent. Just listen to the show if you want to know more. Okay?Mentioned LinksPopes renderLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

In this episode, Jim largely carries the Follow Up section and David wrote a skit. We're in backwards land! We also talk a lot about the various people who have played the Incredible Hulk. I'm not sure why.For our main content, we start off a series of skits that will establish the Flogging Cinematic Universe in a a more clear way. If that doesn't make sense to you, that's okay. It made sense to David. Anyway, this skit picks up where episode 127 left off, with David having just stayed overnight at Jim's house.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

In this episode, we might discuss the size of England. Maybe. We also catch up after David's dad's heart surgery and have some very vague follow up because David has been busy and doesn't remember the details about his follow up notes.For our main topic, we discuss Jordan Peterson's 4th chapter in his 12 Rules for Life book: Compare Yourself to Who You Were Yesterday, Not Who Someone Else is Today.Mentioned LinksJoe Greer's InstagramLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

Finally! A new episode of Flogging!– No one everOkay, so there are reasons why there have been no new episodes for a while. This episode explores them, as well as LOST. Because it's been a while.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

In this episode, as per a listener request, we bring back Soup or Naw! We also discuss Lost and some other random stuff in Follow Up because, as the kids say, that's how we do.For our main topic, we discuss chapter three of Jordan Petersons's Twelve Rules for Life: “Make Friends with People Who Want the Best for You” and David gives a weird amount of information about Jay Adams and nouthetic counseling.By the way, sorry for the colors. This was the only public domain stock image of a yo-yo that I could find on such short notice. You try to do better, okay?Mentioned LinksThe Narnian Wardrobe of Juicers – David's first blog post on the Apple M1 processor.Leave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

You know we're busy when we just do a skit from Monty Python. Well, we were busy, and we did do a skit from Monty Python—but we didn't just do a skit from Monty Python!Anyway, we talk about a lot of TV shows in our followup, which is cool if you like that sort of thing. Jim says he doesn't like Psych and David gets depressed or something.For our main course—the entrée if you will, we have a trailer for the most important movie to ever be featured in a trailer on this episode: Incompetent Jason Bourne.Mentioned LinksDavid's office, not sure why he thought this was follow up. He was just happy about it, I guess. It's not even done yet.Leave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

To start, we discuss some stuff about Star Wars, coughing, military officers, and what makes people laugh really hard. Oh, and then we talk about how wealthy people laugh. For follow up, we discuss what made our last episode funny (to David) and also ABC's Lost, season 2. Don't worry, there's a patent-pending spoiler horn.Anyway, for our main topic, we talk about something that makes David angry—Jordan Peterson's second chapter in his book 12 Rules for Life. David talks way more about theology than he wants to, and for that he blames himself—but also mostly Jim.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

Finally, a new episode. We talk about dentists, cover some follow up, Jim reads some stuff he thinks isn't funny, and then we roll some skits. I'd just like everyone to know, I thought the skits were funnier than the things Jim read in Follow Up. That is all.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

It's David's day off, so this will be short. We talk about lobsters. Like a lot. Also Lost. Oh, and David insults youth pastors, so it's a typical episode. Have a good new year and stuff.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

Who doesn't love leftovers? You? Okay, well, you can skip most of this episode, then. We basically replay like 9 past End of Year bits that we did. But we do have a hearty followup section, and we even dive into some appropriately marked/quarantined Mandolorian spoilers. Don't worry, you can safely listen to the episode and you'll be told when you should stop listening, and when you can scrub to if you want to resume listening after the spoilers.Anyway, here's some Mentioned Links and stuff.Josh Groban – Alla Cuce Del Sole VideoLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

Maybe we should just drop The Lightest Form of Flogging and start a Lord of the Rings podcast. This episode contains follow up on LOTR, Mandalorian, and other stuff, but we mostly stopped talking about the Psalms. Shut up about the Psalms!For your main course, that is, the main topic, we discuss how people reason about things, why people are hesitant to admit that an idea they haven't considered could even exist or be viable, and (primarily) David's concept of Spectrum v. Category thinking.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

After a lot of silly seriousness last week, this episodes leans more into serious silliness. Although David does have a few things to clarify from LOTR (having watched the Fellowship in 4k now) and on the subject of Psalm-singing (having received a hefty amount of feedback). Mentioned LinksMusic: Crown and Covenant Psalms on Apple MusicMusic: Crown and Covenant Psalms on SpotifyLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

This episode is about The Lord of the Rings, VFX, and Psalm-singing. If that seems weird to you, you're probably new. Anyway, the show is mostly about LOTR and VFX up until the 43 minute mark. At the 43 minute mark, we discuss the Psalms, but the discussion arises out of Jim's appearance on episode 24 of The Balm in Gilead Podcast—a podcast about music, especially Christian music, and often even more especially Christian worship music. While it's not strictly required, listeners may find it helpful to listen to that episode before listening to the latter part of our episode.Anyway, David talked a great deal in this episode, which is why for the next two episodes, David will simply be asking Jim questions. Not good questions, just “Why?” over and over again.Note that we don't know whether the person in the album artwork is wicked or not, but for charity's sake, we'll suppose and hope that he isn't.Mentioned LinksThe above mentioned: episode 24 of The Balm in Gilead PodcastVideo: lotr but every lotr but every time sam takes a step towards mordor he says it'll be the farthest he's ever beenThe Chick fil-a video Jim mentioned.Leave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

This episode has some of the most exciting news we've ever broken, which as I write it out, is sort of depressing. Anyway, we also talk a lot about the Mandalorian, Bowby's, and Wayback-Machines.Our main thing is a skit about Chuck Wood, an origin story, if you will. And we'll like to ask that you do will. Thanks.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

This episode includes an important follow up point about K. Scott Oliphint. Not really, but we do talk about him, so that's something. Right?Our main topic is a David-isode (or however you guy son Slack want me to spell that). We discuss how David would rather live an unpleasant life than a life that is generally pleasant with occasional sudden bouts of unpleasantness. In short, his aversion to high variance options in life. And Jim talks about chicken a lot.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!Note that no chickens were harmed in the making of this episode art.

In this episode, we kick things off with another Flogging Theater that we forget to credit. It's some British thing that I'll force Jim to mention next episode. After that, we dive into a hearty time of following up.Our main course is another script Jim wrote. This one does not feature any violence, although it does have some threatened violence. But 'ya know, we're getting somewhere, so leave him alone.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

I guess Jim and David are like friends now or something. We kick things off with an extended intro because we had so much pointless stuff to talk about from having skipped a week. Weird, right?Anyway, we talk about Youtube reaction videos, the election, and like some other stuff. Then we get into follow up and talk about more stuff. That's a good summary of follow up.Lastly, our main topic is the mental model of thinking about your brain as almost a sort of separate entity. Oddly, we agree a lot, so if you don't like that, you can skip the episode or just pretend that we're disagreeing in your brain.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

In this episode, we kick things off with a bit that you'll later find out is from Monty Python. We also have an host of followup items, including one with an actual date for the release of the Lord of The Rings 4k Remastered Edition. Because I guess that's the kind of stuff people listen to this show for now.Anyway, the meat of the show is the conclusion to the story of The Amazing Clarence Flekman. Hopefully it makes sense; I haven't been sleeping well this week.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

To start, we some good but potentially fraught news about The Lord of the Rings. We also talk about other weird things, and then move onto follow up—where, among other things, we clarify the origin of last week's opening skit.For the meat of our show, we talk about why young people are dumb, and what the process of learning to not be quite so dumb is like. We thought it was interesting, anyway.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

After a short skit and each us bringing a few follow up points, we debut David's first FCU skit. Like every cinematic universe, the Flogging Cinematic Universe needs some origin stories. This is one for a character you already know and love, Clarence Flekman—though you don't know him by that name, I suppose.Anyway, this is part one of two. Who knows when Jim will let me do part 2.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

Well, well, well. No reason for saying that. I've just wanted to start show notes that way for some time now. Anyway, we kick things off with some mindless banter, Jim has more follow up than David somehow, and then we discuss our main topic.That topic deserves its own paragraph, and it is intimidation. specifically the idea of being so intimidated by the learning or doing of a thing that you decide not to learn or do that thing. We talk about our past experiences with such forms and degrees of intimidation, as well as what we do to combat it—and as you might expect, our differences are highlighted in bright yellow, like so many passages in a Christian's ESV Journaling Bible.Mentioned LinksThe Dune TrailerLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

This is probably one of our shortest and most polished episodes ever. David forgot to hit record, so we had to record the first 25 minutes twice. So it's extra nice and stuff.The meat of the show involves chicken. I'll leave it at that.Mentioned LinksBug Jim to get these to David.Leave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

David here. Full disclosure. It's been a long week and I didn't even listen to this until posting it. I'm sorry. I hope that's enough, but I guess we'll leave that decision to history.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

In this episode, Jim has two skits—one of which is a brand new segment: “Flogging Theatre.” This should not be confused with the Flogging Cinematic Universe, despite how confusing the names are. Don't confuse them. You can do it. We believe in you.For follow up, we talk about TENET without any spoilers and we talk about how our little slices of quarantine are going and whether Jim is ready to go crazy and start coughing on people at Safeway on his next trip to buy Zebra Cakes and milk.Our main show skit thing (gosh, we're almost as bad at naming things as Microsoft) features 50% less violence and arguing than normal. Progress!Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

In this episode, we talk about wanting to see TENET, have some follow up about humor and weirdly-violent skits, and then we dive in to our main topic. It seems a waste to give it its own paragraph considering how short that first summary was, but this sentence should make up for it.Our main topic is Jim trying to remember more positive or relatively neutral influences his dad had on him. We did an episode somewhere in the past about how Jim's dad leaving affected him, but in a recent episode, Jim a little about how his dad shaped his sense of humor, so we thought it would be a good idea to dive in a little more on that and adjacent things.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

We kick things off with some celebrity-pastor poetry, then we dive into Follow Up halfway through our host intro. I think that breaks records or something.Anyway, our main segment is… well, let's just say it's a bit that only Jim could write. Yeah, we'll leave it at that.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

We kick things off with a weird discussion of Orlando Bloom. Not Orlando Blooming Onion. Just Orlando Bloom. We then, of course, dive into a healthy serving of follow up.For our main topic, we discuss our theories of what makes things funny, what makes people laugh, and what makes people be funny. And so forth.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

It's our next Flogging Cinematic Universe Episode. It has nothing to do with the previous one, but then again, that's how the first several Marvel Cinematic movies worked, so we're on par, yeah?Anyway, the episode starts off with Jim explaining what it's like to be approaching 40, and David pointing out how not-unique that is. We get into some follow up, talk about comedy and autism, then we roll in our main course: On the Lake with Pastor Gus.

We kick things off with a the first of many installments of a series exploring Jim's Self Destructive Habits. It sounds more exciting than it is. We then, of course, cover follow up, the one consistent thing in this crazy messed up world.Anyway, our main topic is a revisiting of David's supposed autism. We follow up with David to find out how his discovery has affected him and what, if anything, he's learned in the last year or so since said discovery. I think it's pretty interesting, but then, I'm me.Side note: The album art is is easily the most difficult selfie I've ever taken.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

Episode 101. An even bigger accomplishment than episode 100. Why? Because it's one more than 100. Duh. Anyway, for those of you who love pedantic follow up, you need not fear. We've still got it. We also play a voicemail from an unwitting Rainn Wilson impersonator.After that, though, things get weird. This is our first Flogging Cinematic Universe episode and it features none other than Bill Hasinger and family.What happens in the episode? We'll let you find that out yourself. No spoilers.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

It's episode 100. What more could you need to know?Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

You read that right, it's the long-lost episode 39! Hooray! We felt bad about doing an episode 100 without having done 100 episodes, so we decided to pay our comedy debt and record episode 39.This episode features a story about bears or something, follow up from episode 38, and another mental model: The Perpetual Ignorance Machine.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!

Baptist or Naw! You didn't ask for it, and we didn't care. That's how we kick off our show. If you don't like it, that's okay.For our main topic, Jim decrees that we shall (you know it's serious when someone uses “shall”) clast yet more icons that conservatives treasure deep in their bosom. We talk about the statues of dead white dudes that everyone wants to tear down, and Jim explains that he doesn't really care about statues, but he does like books. David also has thoughts, probably, so be ready for that.Anyway, another show closer to 100. Be excited.Mentioned LinksLeave us a voicemail: (707) 998-8547Join us on Slack!