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Hosted by The Education Trust’s Karin Chenoweth, ExtraOrdinary Districts guides listeners through the toil and triumphs of three school districts. While each district takes a different approach, they all demonstrate a commitment to students, research, and continual evaluation to solve many of the pr…

ExtraOrdinary Districts


    • May 23, 2022 LATEST EPISODE
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    • 109 EPISODES

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    A Dream Project, Staff Shortages, and Canceling the Ku Klux Klan—Wait, What?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 23, 2022 42:17


    In Episode 4, we hear from Melinda Young, superintendent of Steubenville City Public Schools, Kayla Whitlatch, Steubenville's treasurer, and Lynnett Gorman, the district's federal grants administrator, about how ESSER funds are allowing Steubenville to construct a STEM building connected to the high school, which they view as a long-term investment in students' dreams and post-pandemic economic growth. “This is the […]

    Leading the Way

    Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2022 28:53


    In Episode 3, leaders in two states explain how they are using ESSER funds to pursue statewide improvement efforts. In Delaware, recently retired state superintendent, Dr. Susan Bunting, along with Dr. Michael Saylor, education associate for school leadership initiatives, and Dr. Jackie Wilson, director of the Delaware Academy for School Leadership, note that their state has developed a leadership pipeline […]

    Addressing Learning Needs

    Play Episode Listen Later May 9, 2022 24:22


    In Episode 2, we sit down with Tricia McManus, superintendent of Winston-Salem Forsyth County Schools, who says that her district is making the most of its relief money by using it to address pressing needs and invest for the future. She's spending on everything from COVID mitigation and new curricula to contracting with community “violence interrupters” to help mentor and […]

    Where Are All Those Dollars Going?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 2, 2022 23:20


    In Episode 1, we talk about the big picture with Phyllis Jordan of FutureEd, a Washington think tank that has been tracking how districts are spending the money. She says that what is very clear is that what she calls “under-resourced districts” are using much of their money for immediate needs, such as repairs or to prevent illness. We also […]

    How are Schools & Districts Using the Money That the Federal Government Has Provided to Help Them Get Through the COVID Crisis?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 13, 2022 3:00


    Districts That Succeed

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 23, 2021 48:11


    In the final episode of this season of ExtraOrdinary Districts, Tanji Reed Marshall interviews her co-host Karin Chenoweth about Chenoweth’s new book, Districts that Succeed: Breaking the Correlation Between Race, Poverty, and Achievement, which will be published May 25 by Harvard Education Press. Be sure to subscribe to ExtraOrdinary Districts to be notified of new episodes when they come out.

    What Have We Heard? What Have We Learned?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 16, 2021 57:54


    In this episode, ExtraOrdinary Districts co-hosts Karin Chenoweth and Tanji Reed Marshall chew over what they heard and what they learned from five previous episodes that explored different aspects of reading instruction. They connect the question of reading instruction to our historical moment in which we as a nation are deciding whether to be a democracy in which all citizens […]

    What Can States Do to Improve Reading Instruction?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 9, 2021 51:25


    When Tennessee showed no progress on the last results of the National Assessment of Educational Progress and Massachusetts actually declined, both states were spurred to make some major changes to improve the reading instruction in their states. In this episode, Dr. Lisa Coons, chief academic officer of the Tennessee State Department of Education, Dr. Heather Peske, senior associate commissioner, Massachusetts […]

    “High-Quality Materials”

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 2, 2021 64:14


    Most elementary schools teach reading with either a basal reading program, a teacher-developed curriculum, or a balanced literacy program like Fountas & Pinnell or Teachers College Units of Study. But the Council of Chief State School Officers (CCSSO), in calling for a national improvement in reading instruction, has called upon all state superintendents and commissioners to encourage schools and districts […]

    The “Science of Reading”

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 26, 2021 70:18


    The last results of the National Assessment of Educational Progress showed no progress and some indicators even declined, meaning few children are reading at an advanced or proficient level. Partly because of those disappointing results and partly because of a series of podcasts by American Public Media’s Emily Hanford, a growing number of educators, parents, advocates, and policymakers have become […]

    The Right to Read

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 19, 2021 59:56


    The right to be taught how to read is a birthright of all Americans, argues attorney Mark Rosenbaum. And schools have a responsibility to teach them, says reading expert Nell Duke. They are allies in a series of legal cases to try to establish the “right to read,” and they join podcast co-hosts Karin Chenoweth and Tanji Reed Marshall in […]

    “School Leaders REALLY Matter”

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 12, 2021 60:22


    The education field has long understood that improving class instruction was the key to improving student learning. But for the past two decades, the focus of national and state policy, as well as the efforts of education practitioners, has been almost exclusively on teachers and their practices. In 2004, however, an important study established that principals were important to student […]

    “Opening a School Building in the Time of Covid”

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 5, 2021 47:52


    Schools have come under increasing pressure to reopen their buildings so that students can attend in person again. But those who insist that schools are safe don’t often acknowledge the work that must be done in order to make them safe. Jennifer Robbins, principal of Ladd Acres Elementary School in Hillsboro, Oregon, talks about the many things that have had […]

    The State of Reading in America

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2021 64:17


    Recently the organization representing state education superintendents issued a statement urging their members to make reading instruction a core focus. During the rest of this season, we will have an ongoing discussion of why the Council of Chief State School Officers (CCSSO) took such an unusual step and the implications of its statement. To kick off this series of discussions, […]

    “Managing COVID-19”

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 12, 2021 78:17


    Junction City, Kansas (USD 475 Geary County) re-opened school buildings in September after a summer of planning and a myriad of mitigation measures, from closing down water fountains to ensuring that students face in the same direction whenever possible—as well as making sure every school has a nurse or nurse clerk and putting in equipment to change the air in […]

    Finding the “Missing Kids”

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 5, 2021 64:12


    When schools closed abruptly in March 2020 because of the pandemic, it was reported that 8,000 of Baltimore’s students had not logged into remote schooling. Roger Shaw is the district administrator whose responsibility it was to find them and find out what was keeping them from school. But the number was daunting, and he began with a strategy that included […]

    “Kids Are Still Learning Things”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 29, 2021 60:08


    At University Park Campus School in Worcester, Massachusetts, no one questions that the pandemic has been terrible and the remote school year has been difficult to navigate. “Remote school is not as good as in-person school,” principal Dan St. Louis says flatly. “But we’re learning, we’re growing, and when we go back we’ll take our instruction to an even higher […]

    What kind of school produces hundreds of top African American scientists?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 22, 2021 62:54


    One where educators take responsibility to help students thrive, excel, and be intellectually curious. More than 30 years ago, Dr. Freeman A. Hrabowski III began a small program at the University of Maryland Baltimore County. With a core set of principles that include high expectations and collaboration, UMBC’s Meyerhoff Program has since produced hundreds of scientists, professors, and leaders, including […]

    “It’s not an ideal situation. But we’re making the best of it.”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 15, 2021 60:58


    Pandemic schooling has been difficult at Malverne High School in Nassau County New York, but social studies teacher Brian China says that his AP social studies class is only four days behind last year. “Under these circumstances, we’re making it work.” At Malverne, a little more than 30 percent of students are fully remote, and the rest of the students […]

    “We’ve probably gone through more change since March than I did through my entire career.”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 8, 2021 51:32


    Steubenville City Public Schools had as its goal operating as normally as possible this school year, so educators spent the spring and summer learning computer programs, putting lessons online, buying computers and hot spots, and clicking together plexiglass desk dividers. “We’ve probably gone through more change since March than I did through my entire career,” Superintendent Melinda Young says. One […]

    “It’s amazing how much kids adapt and learn.”

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 18, 2020 53:24


    After a fall of flipping between opening and closing school buildings, Godwin Heights Public Schools in western Michigan responded to a huge spike in community spread of coronavirus by deciding to close before Thanksgiving until at least January 19. Part of the decision rested on the fact that it had become difficult to fully staff schools as bus drivers, janitorial […]

    “Something that was already a yeoman’s job has become even greater.”

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 11, 2020 55:20


    “We keep using that word hard.”

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2020 49:18


    “We have a third of our kids in every day. But one hundred percent of our students are learning every single day”

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 27, 2020 49:46


    “We have a third of our kids in every day. But one hundred percent of our students are learning every single day” In this episode of Season Four of The Education Trust’s podcast, ExtraOrdinary Districts, Nicholas Stirling, superintendent of Valley Stream 30 in Nassau County New York, is joined by assistant superintendent of curriculum and instruction Jennifer Lewner and three […]

    “As soon as we’re back to normal, we’ll have to accelerate our kids.”

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 19, 2020 46:07


    ExtraOrdinary Districts – Season 4 is Coming!

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2020 2:18


    The Education Trust is about to launch Season 4 of ExtraOrdinary Districts, but before we do we’d like your help. Go to www.edtrust.org/survey and take a minute to fill out our survey about what you would like us to focus on. In our first two seasons we provided in-depth profiles of school districts that are breaking the correlation between race, […]

    “What Did We Hear? What Did We Learn?”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2020 47:01


    In a lively conversation, Tanji Reed Marshall and Karin Chenoweth wrap up Season 1 of ExtraOrdinary Districts in Extraordinary Times by talking through what they have heard from school and district leaders from Alabama, California, Delaware, Florida, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon and Washington D.C. Over the course of 19 episodes, front-line educators […]

    “What Did We Hear? What Did We Learn?”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2020 47:01


    In a lively conversation, Tanji Reed Marshall and Karin Chenoweth wrap up Season 1 of ExtraOrdinary Districts in Extraordinary Times by talking through what they have heard from school and district leaders from Alabama, California, Delaware, Florida, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon and Washington D.C. Over the course of 19 episodes, front-line educators […]

    “We’ve been planning, planning, planning.”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2020 27:15


    “If we’re face-to-face, we’ll be pretty good with that. If we’re remote, we’re 80% there,” says superintendent Corey Miklus in Seaford, Delaware, about the upcoming fall semester. “The real question is if we go to a hybrid format, because in that hybrid format there’s probably about 50 to 100 different scenarios you could work out.” Should they have A days […]

    “We’ve been planning, planning, planning.”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2020 27:15


    “If we’re face-to-face, we’ll be pretty good with that. If we’re remote, we’re 80% there,” says superintendent Corey Miklus in Seaford, Delaware, about the upcoming fall semester. “The real question is if we go to a hybrid format, because in that hybrid format there’s probably about 50 to 100 different scenarios you could work out.” Should they have A days […]

    “Schools that already had cohesive cultures did the best.”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2020 51:06


    Dr. Sonja Santelises joins ExtraOrdinary Districts in Extraordinary Times to discusses the Black Lives Matter protests and the decisions she faces as superintendent of Baltimore in planning for the return of students in the fall — from what equipment she is having to buy to what changes in the curriculum she will have to make. Surveys to gather information and […]

    “Schools that already had cohesive cultures did the best.”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2020 51:06


    Dr. Sonja Santelises joins ExtraOrdinary Districts in Extraordinary Times to discusses the Black Lives Matter protests and the decisions she faces as superintendent of Baltimore in planning for the return of students in the fall — from what equipment she is having to buy to what changes in the curriculum she will have to make. Surveys to gather information and […]

    “Our hope is to come back as close to normal as we possibly can.”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 19, 2020 28:49


    By using gyms and deploying every possible teacher, even if they don’t have all the proper certifications, Steubenville’s superintendent Melinda Young is hoping to “open up all day every day.” The only exception is that 4-year-olds will attend three days a week and 3-year-olds will go two times a week. “We just feel so strongly that we need those students […]

    “Our hope is to come back as close to normal as we possibly can.”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 18, 2020 28:49


    By using gyms and deploying every possible teacher, even if they don’t have all the proper certifications, Steubenville’s superintendent Melinda Young is hoping to “open up all day every day.” The only exception is that 4-year-olds will attend three days a week and 3-year-olds will go two times a week. “We just feel so strongly that we need those students […]

    “Virtual learning on steroids.”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 17, 2020 38:51


    Increased costs in the face of massive budget cuts means that the already difficult task of re-opening school buildings becomes even more complicated. “It’s overwhelming,” says Vincent Romano, principal of Malverne High School in Nassau County, New York. In this episode of ExtraOrdinary Districts in Extraordinary Times, Romano and Sergio Garcia, principal of Artesia High School in Los Angeles County, […]

    “Virtual learning on steroids.”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 16, 2020 38:51


    Increased costs in the face of massive budget cuts means that the already difficult task of re-opening school buildings becomes even more complicated. “It’s overwhelming,” says Vincent Romano, principal of Malverne High School in Nassau County, New York. In this episode of ExtraOrdinary Districts in Extraordinary Times, Romano and Sergio Garcia, principal of Artesia High School in Los Angeles County, […]

    “We have the resources.”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 11, 2020 35:21


    “The money exists to ensure that all students are served,” says Tricia McManus, the brand-new deputy superintendent of Winston-Salem Public Schools in North Carolina. The question, she adds, is whether we as a nation are willing to spend it. When the pandemic closed schools, McManus said, it shone a light on the needs of all children. “We definitely saw that […]

    “We have the resources.”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 11, 2020 35:21


    “The money exists to ensure that all students are served,” says Tricia McManus, the brand-new deputy superintendent of Winston-Salem Public Schools in North Carolina. The question, she adds, is whether we as a nation are willing to spend it. When the pandemic closed schools, McManus said, it shone a light on the needs of all children. “We definitely saw that […]

    “This is so much of a harder task to perform”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2020 47:59


    Providing distance learning is much harder than providing an education in person, says Mary Haynes-Smith, principal of Mary McLeod Bethune Elementary School in New Orleans. Bethune is a school that runs on personal relationships and hugging, and building a culture of resiliency is much more difficult when done through computers, she said. “This is so much of a harder task […]

    “This is so much of a harder task to perform”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2020 47:59


    Providing distance learning is much harder than providing an education in person, says Mary Haynes-Smith, principal of Mary McLeod Bethune Elementary School in New Orleans. Bethune is a school that runs on personal relationships and hugging, and building a culture of resiliency is much more difficult when done through computers, she said. “This is so much of a harder task […]

    “We’ve borrowed the phrase, provide grace”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 2, 2020 47:10


    “The biggest bonus” of the remote learning that Godwyn Heights School District in Michigan has been doing is the strengthened ties between school and families, says Mary Lang, principal of West Elementary School. Another bonus, says Michelle Krynicki, director of curriculum and instruction for the district, is that bonds among teachers have also been strengthened. She has heard teachers say, […]

    “We’ve borrowed the phrase, provide grace”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2020 47:10


    “The biggest bonus” of the remote learning that Godwyn Heights School District in Michigan has been doing is the strengthened ties between school and families, says Mary Lang, principal of West Elementary School. Another bonus, says Michelle Krynicki, director of curriculum and instruction for the district, is that bonds among teachers have also been strengthened. She has heard teachers say, […]

    “We have the opportunity and I hope we don’t waste it”

    Play Episode Listen Later May 28, 2020 40:57


    Jennifer Robbins, principal of Ladd Acres Elementary School in Hillsboro, Oregon, has been collecting and studying data about which of her school’s students are showing up to distance learning classes and what they are learning. She wants to know, “What types of lessons are really working?” One sixth grade teacher, for example, says he is getting better results in math […]

    “We have the opportunity and I hope we don’t waste it”

    Play Episode Listen Later May 27, 2020 40:57


    Jennifer Robbins, principal of Ladd Acres Elementary School in Hillsboro, Oregon, has been collecting and studying data about which of her school’s students are showing up to distance learning classes and what they are learning. She wants to know, “What types of lessons are really working?” One sixth grade teacher, for example, says he is getting better results in math […]

    “This is going to make our system better”

    Play Episode Listen Later May 25, 2020 31:17


    After delivering 10,000 devices, thousands of Wi-Fi hot spots, and 300,000 meals per week, Mobile County Public Schools created a hybrid system of instructional packets, online instruction, and television instruction to provide children and families choices in how continue their education. Many systems around Mobile “just gave worksheets or busy work,” Superintendent Chresal Threadgill says, and he has faced backlash […]

    “This is going to make our system better”

    Play Episode Listen Later May 24, 2020 31:17


    After delivering 10,000 devices, thousands of Wi-Fi hot spots, and 300,000 meals per week, Mobile County Public Schools created a hybrid system of instructional packets, online instruction, and television instruction to provide children and families choices in how continue their education. Many systems around Mobile “just gave worksheets or busy work,” Superintendent Chresal Threadgill says, and he has faced backlash […]

    “Our schools were not built for this”

    Play Episode Listen Later May 11, 2020 40:06


    That sounds like an obvious statement, says Daniel St. Louis, principal of University Park Campus School (UPCS) in Worcester, Massachusetts. But “a big part of how we see our identity has been taken away” by the school closures following the pandemic. “One of our great, great strengths is the relationships — the social learning, group work, learning together, being with […]

    “Our schools were not built for this”

    Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2020 40:06


    That sounds like an obvious statement, says Daniel St. Louis, principal of University Park Campus School (UPCS) in Worcester, Massachusetts. But “a big part of how we see our identity has been taken away” by the school closures following the pandemic. “One of our great, great strengths is the relationships — the social learning, group work, learning together, being with […]

    “We would be wrong to believe that education won’t be transformed forever”

    Play Episode Listen Later May 7, 2020 37:01


    “It hurts my heart tremendously” to know that gaps in achievement will grow during the shutdown of school buildings, says Jennie Black, principal of Washington Elementary in Junction City, Kansas. She is most worried about the students who were already struggling in school before buildings closed and aren’t logging into school lessons during this time. She and her teachers have […]

    “We would be wrong to believe that education won’t be transformed forever”

    Play Episode Listen Later May 6, 2020 37:01


    “It hurts my heart tremendously” to know that gaps in achievement will grow during the shutdown of school buildings, says Jennie Black, principal of Washington Elementary in Junction City, Kansas. She is most worried about the students who were already struggling in school before buildings closed and aren’t logging into school lessons during this time. She and her teachers have […]

    “We’re trying not to overwhelm them, because they are living through a pandemic.”

    Play Episode Listen Later May 4, 2020 40:21


    Before their school building closed, teachers and leaders at Garfield Prep Academy in Washington, D.C., learned as much as they could about COVID-19 and shared that with students and parents. The next step was to gather materials and lessons that students could take home. Once school closed, says principal Kennard Branch, “the first order of business was to make sure […]

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