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The interview table gets turned this week as Erika Wright, founder of the Oklahoma Rural Schools Coalition, interviews Andy about why voting in the primary election matters so much.

Andy & Emily discuss the fallout of SCOTUS' Callais decision as Republican-controlled state legislatures rush to gerrymander their Congressional maps ahead of (or in some cases during) the primary election. Also joining the show is Shanisty Whittington, senior political science major at Rose State College, to discuss her research on prison gerrymandering.

Andy and Emily discuss the Callais decision announced today by SCOTUS and it's potential impact on gerrymandering and voting rights more broadly. Plus some reflection on CIVICS CON and questioning exactly why the Oklahoma legislature is referring so man state questions to the ballot in August.

This episode is the keynote address delivered by former Congressman and founder of Groundwork Project, Joe Kennedy III, at CIVICS CON 2026. Joe speaks about Oklahoma, about democracy, and about a shared vision for the future.

Oklahoma lawmakers are sending some of the biggest ballot questions in state history to an August election most voters won't know is happening. Andy breaks down the joint resolutions targeting Medicaid, TSET, and the state Constitution — and why the date is the point. Then: candidate filing just closed, and the numbers reveal a democracy where 68% of races are already decided before November. Two stories, one system.Oklahoma Watch story referenced: https://oklahomawatch.org/2026/04/03/choose-your-own-voters-republican-lawmakers-send-high-stakes-ballot-initiatives-to-low-turnout-election/NonDoc has several stories on candidate filing: https://nondoc.com/category/civics/politics/

Andy & Emily discuss how late-night lawmaking and budget maneuvers reduce transparency, then unpack a pressing—and persistent—Department of Mental Health and Substance Abuse Services funding gap that prompted agency heads to hold a “premature” press conference about consolidating ODMHSAS into the Department of Health, despite concerns that consolidation won't solve a roughly $20–30 million shortfall. They also talk property tax sticker shock, strategic party registration for the gubernatorial primary, and promote CIVICS CON (April 9–10 at Rose State College).

Almost no one living person has spent more time at the Oklahoma State Capitol than longtime capitol reporter Shawn Ashley. From being a public television journalist to owning a bill tracking and news service (Quorum Call), Shawn has spent 30 years listening, writing, and laughing about what happens in those halls of power, and he joined us this week to reflect on his tenure and discuss what's unique about this session.

We're joined by Dr. Christine Pappas, Professor and Chair of the Department of Politics, Law and Society at East Central University, to discuss the SAVE Act (aka the SAVE America Act, aka the Make Elections Great Again (MEGA) Act) and it's potential impact on elections in Oklahoma and across the country.

Dr. Emily Stacey returns to the show, but this time as our new co-host. This episode is really about getting to know her so that listeners have some background for future episodes.

We're back for a lightning-round episode to catch you up on the State of the State, voter registration numbers, election dates, and even a little bit of national politics (which is insane).

Andy visits with Colleen McCarty, Executive Director of the Oklahoma Appleseed Center for Law & Justice, about the role and responsibilities of District Attorneys. Hint: They're more important than you think.

We take a look back at some of the highlights (and lowlights) of 2025, and lay the groundwork for the year ahead.

Keith and Andy discuss the electoral reform movement, Oklahoma Independents being blocked from participating in ALL primary elections, and, somewhat surprisingly, the great state of Texas.

As 2025 begins to wind down, Andy reflects on what he's thankful for and offers some encouragement for the year ahead.

Keith Gaddie returns to give us the history of White House architecture, how it connects to grievance politics, and how we can help ensure your fellow Americans have access to food when Congress fails.

Andy visits with Kyle Loveless of EyesOver, a data analytics firm that monitors public sentiment on the internet and uses it to analyze and predict electoral outcomes, to discuss how polling has worked in the past, why that model is struggling, and what the future of the industry may look like.

[Editor's note: Sorry about the audio. One of the mics - mine, actually - malfunctioned in this episode.] In the spring 2025, the Oklahoma legislature passed SB1207 which made sweeping changes to the state's initiative petition process. A legal challenge was filed, and oral arguments are set to be heard on November 18, 2025. Andy speaks with local political operative Amber England has been involved in multiple initiative petition campaigns.

Let's talk about hope - where to find it, and why we need it. And hey OKC - don't forget to vote on Oct 14th!

Keith Gaddie returns to discuss the rise of grievance politics, how it plays out with different groups of voters, and whether or not a return to hopeful politics is possible.

On October 14th, voters in Oklahoma City will vote on a new general obligation municipal bond to fund city operations. New city councilperson representing Ward 7, Camal Pennington, joins Andy to explain why this is important.Visit vision.okc.gov for more information on the GO bond.

Andy talks with Rachael Crawford, executive director of the Plaza District Association and Plaza Business Alliance, about how arts-driven small business districts build belonging, counter apathy, and strengthen civic life in OKC. They also preview the 26th Annual Plaza District Festival

 Hi friends, Andy Moore here with Let's Fix this. Um, like many of you, I've been sitting in front of my computer on my phone for the last several days, um, reading news about political violence in America again. Um, on Wednesday when Charlie Kirk was murdered. I was in Washington DC um, in a meeting, uh, of organizations, uh, organizational leaders from, uh, cross partisan networks who work on everything from electoral reform to, uh, bridge building to university presidents, to um, uh, young legislators, state and congressional legislators across the country.There were. A wide range of folks politically in the room. Uh, and when text messages started pinging people's phones about the violence that had erupted in Utah, um, one woman was, um, moved to tears because her children attend a university that is, I guess, adjacent to UVU where the shooting occurred. And it hasn't happened often in my life that.I've that I've been directly impacted by violence like this, and it probably hasn't happened to most of us. Even still, when you are faced with someone else who feels like they or their loved ones or immediately threatened, it's scarring even that way. Uh, and I'm sure like many of you, I've somewhat struggled looking for.The leaders, the voices, right, the comfort that our country needs in times of hurt, um, in times of fear and anxiety. And we've certainly been living in those times for a long time now, I would say even for me, the past. Nine months or so of this year, of 2025 have been some of the most existentially, stressful and draining that I can remember.Um, you know, I will admit that there were aspects of Trump's first term that were deeply concerning to me, and then certainly living through the COVID-19 pandemic, um, and losing my mother, um, to it were deeply, deeply difficult. Um. I think I keep hoping every day, right, that the dam will break, that something will give that a fundamental shift in the direction our country is headed will happen and it'll feel immediately relieving and it hasn't happened yet.Um, the last few days, you know, I've been looking for, I don't know, Mr. Rogers, someone, someone to offer a comforting word. And in fact, I saw a headline the other day, um, about maybe just this morning, I think in on Politico actually, that said, Charlie Kirk's death exposes an absence of a leader to Calm America.And the headline alone hit me like. A gut punch and also like an affirming hand on my shoulder, I guess, right? That this is, that I'm probably not alone in feeling like we're looking for something. I don't know if things will change after this, but I do think it is important for us to pause, if only briefly, to reflect on.Where we are right now and how we might move forward as a country, as a state, as a local community. I'm recording this on Fridays Eptember 12th. We've already released, uh, a podcast for this week, but I felt responsible, I guess, in some way to share a good word or what I hope is a good word. In just a few hours, we will convene nearby at Skydance Brewing for our monthly democracy drinks happy hour like we do every month.I look forward to seeing old friends and new. Um, I look forward to finding or forcing a laugh at something, and I hope there's hugs, honestly. If you're, if you happen to listen to this before you come, I'm probably gonna hug you, or I am welcome to hug you. Uh, I am open to it. If you are, it's okay if you're not, but like sometimes, like nothing else feels quite right, like the warm embrace of someone that you know cares.And so even if you aren't there or you listen to this afterwards, I hope that in some way this audio or this video, if you're watching, is a bit of that. I, I do wanna read some words from two other people that I consider influential in our world. Um, there don't get it. Write all the time, but I thought what they had to say was helpful.Um, the first is from the, um,...

Keith Gaddie returns to the Democracy Den Studios to discuss the evolution of liberalism and conservatism in American politics from the New Deal to present day, exploring identity politics, economic challenges, and the shift towards club goods.00:00 Welcome and Introductions01:14 A Conversation on American Politics03:25 The New Deal and Its Legacy07:31 Challenges of Modern Liberalism14:45 Evolving Political Coalitions21:57 Fearmongering and Political Strategies22:15 Liberalism and the Abundance Mindset24:02 Public Goods and Externalities28:19 Conservatism and Community Responsibility37:29 The Era of Club Goods40:22 Concluding Thoughts and Future Discussions

National political reporter Grant Hermes joins Andy to unpack media literacy in a chaos-speed news cycle. We dig into how Grant chooses stories, his “harm principle” for coverage, and why tariffs are probably overcovered while the quiet loss of good government data (census, labor, health, weather) is dangerously undercovered. We also talk DC's National Guard optics, crime stats confusion, and how algorithms silo our news diets.Plus: why “nerds with clipboards” keep your groceries, schools, and weather forecasts on track; a quick tour of bias tools like AllSides; and practical tips for building a saner, more reality-based media routine.Listen to Grant's podcast and Substack, Make It Make Sense with Grant Hermes, and follow him on social: @granthermes (Bluesky/X/IG/TikTok) and @GrantHermesTV.

We're joined by Paul Monies, reporter at Oklahoma Watch, to discuss the issue of money in candidate races and how the State Treasurer, Todd Russ, is attempting to use Oklahoma's Tobacco Settlement Endowment Trust (TSET) to influence corporate policy.Articles discussed: Show Me the Money: Some Oklahoma Candidates Carry Huge Campaign DebtsOklahoma Treasurer Making Another Attempt to Change Corporate Policies

Our new intern, Lena, joins the show to discuss campaign finance issues and to do a "Gerrymandering 101" conversation with Andy. **SUPPORT LET'S FIX THIS** News stories mentioned: After Minnesota murder, Oklahoma Ethics Commission to let lawmakers use campaign funds for security (NonDoc)Show Me the Money: Some Oklahoma Candidates Carry Huge Campaign Debts (Oklahoma Watch)Mullin's Late Disclosures Show Millions More in Stock and Bond Sales (Oklahoma Watch)

Andy visits with Dr. Keith Gaddie to discuss gerrymandering, why it's suddenly back in the news, and what we can do to prevent it.Books discussed: Democracy's Meanings by Davis, Goidel, & GaddieBragging Rites by Keith Gaddie

Scott's back; he and Andy reflect on 8 years, 300 episodes, and where we find ourselves in American history.

This week it's Trump vs. Musk, last week it was Gov. Stitt vs. the Legislature, and the perpetual Ryan Walters vs seemingly everyone, we can't help but wonder - are men too emotional to be in leadership positions?

The legislature has adjourned sine die, but before they did, they voted to override more than 2/3rds of Governor Stitt's vetos and oust one his appointee who lead the Oklahoma Department of Mental Health and Substance Abuse Services (ODMHSAS).

We're just a week away from the Oklahoma Legislature adjourning sine die, and that means (1) they have a budget and (2) they're going to ram through a few more contentious bills, like SB1027, which makes significant changes to the initiative petition process.

Governor Stitt vetoed two good (and popular) bills - but why? Also, ODMHSAS troubles somehow continue to deepen, and a train is running out of track, so to speak.

Andy's niece, Penny, provides some severe weather reminders, and then we discuss the new social studies standards, the wildfire task force report, and what to expect with the state budget.

Updates to the social studies standards, ongoing ODMHSAS situation, and more, followed by a recording from Andy's recent speech to the Edmond Democratic Women.

It seems that once a decade, a major state agency has a mysterious budget crisis. In 2012 it was OKDHS, in 2018 it was OSDH, and in 2025 it's ODMHSAS. What is going on? And what can we do about it?

Sure, the stock market's in free fall and the First Amendment is under attack, but sometimes you gotta pull back from that and focus on the good stuff - like when a regular, everyday woman decides to run for city council. We visit with Valerie Moore, recent candidate for Harrah City Council, to hear what she learned along the way.

When people show you who they really are, believe them. Especially if they can't work a group chat.

Ryan Walters pays the piper, politicians don't want Oklahomans to propose ballot initiatives, and we discuss how well the parties are (or are not) connecting with voters.Links mentioned: Walters settled with Ethics Commission for social media violationsBut…a lawmaker, Ellen Pogemiller, has asked the Attorney General to weigh in on Walters' connection to a new “professional association” called “Teacher Freedom Alliance.“ She asked AG Drummond to “clarify the legality” of Walters' conduct concerning the new “Teacher Freedom Alliance.” She also asked Drummond to “investigate the financial ties and contacts (Walters) has with TFA.” A law passed last year creating a new penalty for what it called “impermissible occupation” has been mostly cleared for enforcement by the US DOJ. A federal judge put a stay on the bill under Biden, but now the Trump Administration has dismissed it. Speaking of changes to federal policy, the Oklahoma Insurance Commissioner, Glen Mulready, who most of us forget exists, has issued a warning or a heads up to Oklahomans who have health insurance through the Marketplace (aka Obamacare) that their premiums will likely increase dramatically for 2026 if the federal enhanced Advanced Premium Tax Credits aren't extended by December. David Shor, head of data science at Blue Rose Research, was on The Ezra Klein Show this week, and it's fascinating to hear / watch.

Supt. Ryan Walters is facing his third ethics violation in as many years, the future of the Judicial Nominating Commission is again uncertain, and Governor Stitt wants to have a say in federal funding decisions.

Oklahoma Labor Commissioner Leslie Osborn returns to the show to discuss childcare, maternal health care, and how Oklahoma can - and should - properly invest in the future of our state's workforce.

We're joined by Rep. Andy Fugate (HD94-Del City) to discuss his priorities this session and the lawsuit he recently filed against Governor Stitt regarding his executive order that all state employees must end remote work and return to the office.

Every day I get asked "Wtf are we supposed to do?!" Thankfully, our friend, Eric Liu, with Citizen University, has a helpful framework: the "Five P's." Let's talk through them.

Andy discusses what happens when DOGE cuts federal programs AND DOGE-OK wants to cut state programs AND Governor Stitt wants to cut revenue. With all those cuts, Oklahoma will bleed out. We plead again: discuss the state budget more than one year at a time.