Money Stuff: The Podcast

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The audio companion to Bloomberg Opinion’s beloved Money Stuff column hosted by its author Matt Levine, “whose deadpan style mixes technical elucidation and wit” (NY Times). Once a week, Matt and his friend, Bloomberg News reporter and TV host, Katie Greifeld talk about Wall Street, finance and…other stuff. New episodes every Friday.

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    • May 16, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
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    Full of Mirth: 401(k), Clubs, TSLA

    Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2025 34:58 Transcription Available


    Matt and Katie discuss leveraging up your 401(k), everyone's love for putting private credit into retirement accounts, mortgages versus margin loans, college finance clubs, travel sports and how to get Elon Musk paid.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    A Broad Church: BRK/A, OpenAI, Medicaid

    Play Episode Listen Later May 9, 2025 35:11 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss Warren Buffett's retirement, his successor at Berkshire Hathaway, his other successor (Bill Ackman), OpenAI's restructuring, Sam Altman's incentives and Medicaid provider taxes.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Visionary Kibbitzer: TSLA, X, KKR

    Play Episode Listen Later May 2, 2025 26:48 Transcription Available


    Matt and Katie talk about what Tesla is, splitting the roles of CEO and Technoking, the Musk attention auction, the benefits of not paying attention to X debt prices, and why everyone likes private assets.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Reptile Brain: ???, GS, XXI

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 25, 2025 37:39 Transcription Available


    Matt and Katie talk general craziness, tariffs, Jerome Powell, volatility and predictability, plus Goldman pay, alts managers versus banks, Twenty One and negative Bitcoin per share.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    One Horse at a Time: A Mailbag Episode

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 18, 2025 25:26 Transcription Available


    Matt and Katie answer reader questions about law firm IPOs, cyber horses, private credit marketplaces, S&P 500 basis ETFs, the option value of personal bankruptcy, names for children/horses/ETFs and ETFs of BDCs.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Awkward Pauses: Tariffs, Basis, Leverage

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 11, 2025 26:41 Transcription Available


    Matt and Katie discuss fake tariff tweets, real tariff Truths, swaps, futures, basis trades and and ETF for shorting leveraged ETFs.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Finders Keepers: IPO, XAI, Subs

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 4, 2025 32:03 Transcription Available


    Matt and Katie do not discuss tariffs but do discuss meme stock mini-IPOs, the stablecoin business, adult custodians of T-bills, booping some Circle coins, valuing X and xAI, X/xAI synergies, other possible Musk mergers, buying Tesla stock in order to complain about Elon Musk, and what we would do if someone gave us $7 million by mistake.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Land Rich: EDR, KKR, SPAX.PVT

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 28, 2025 32:50 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss the Endeavor deal, Carl Icahn, dodging brokers' phone calls, strategic holdings, a baby Berkshire boom, Katie's contact lens reorder, reinvesting crypto winnings in land, real-time-ish private stock prices, OpenAI's lack of stock volatility and distracting stock prices.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Unbundled Advice: A Mailbag Episode

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 21, 2025 24:40 Transcription Available


    Matt and Katie answer reader questions about the quality of cocoa beans, who picks the loans in private credit ETFs, whether everything is stupid now, how to work quant hedge fund money laundering into your novel and how to save on financial advisor fees.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    American Dream: EDR, BIS, PILOT

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 14, 2025 27:44 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss appraisal arbitrage, fighting and wrestling, official worries about private credit liquidity and indoor skiing in New Jersey.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Audible Frustration: C, ME, ETF

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 7, 2025 35:43 Transcription Available


    Matt and Katie discuss Citigroup's fat fingers and confusing computer screen, 23andMe's troubles, serial-killer cousins, ETF sales practices and taking a holistic view of customer service. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Funny Business Is My Business: PRIV, HHH, WARS

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 28, 2025 35:04 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss Apollo and State Street's private credit exchange-traded fund launch, Bill Ackman's efforts to build his own Berkshire Hathaway, and memecoins as bankruptcy bidding currency.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Bespokeness: AI, Passthrough, UST

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 14, 2025 31:45 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss the fighting over OpenAI, paying for hedge funds' photocopies, whether hedge funds are worth it or you should just buy buffer ETFs, and Microsoft vs. Treasuries.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Another Great Convergence: 7bps, APO, HOOD

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 7, 2025 28:02 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss Vanguard's big mutual fund fee cut, plans for private credit trading and the one glorious day when you could bet on the Pro Football Championship in your brokerage app.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    A Lineless World: AI, X, Darkness

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 31, 2025 35:46 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss the DeepSeek shock, AI and GDP, Elon Musk's X buyout debt, trading in the dark and double levered Melaniacoin ETFs.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Messing With Models: Vanguard, Buffers, Two Sigma

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 24, 2025 30:28 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss a Vanguard tax oopsie, buffered Bitcoin ETFs, crypto utility, and a hedge fund model calibration oopsie.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Plant Some Petunias: Hindenburg, 360, ESG

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 17, 2025 31:32 Transcription Available


    Matt and Katie discuss how hard it is to make money as a short-focused researcher, how not to get the best rate on a savings account, and whether ESG is about doing good or doing well.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Sick and Aging Trees: GSE, MBA, ICE

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 10, 2025 39:52 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss the return of the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac trade, a business school class project that came true in real life, and taking cocoa out of commodity exchange warehouses.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Unfeasibly Tanned for This Time of Year: A Mailbag Episode

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 3, 2025 28:00 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt answer reader questions about their paths into the world of finance, goth closing bell ceremonies, government insider trading, buying shares of other people's houses, "body language," the maximum number of ETFs and Martha Stewart. Become a Bloomberg.com subscriber using our special intro offer at bloomberg.com/podcastoffer. You’ll unlock deep reporting, data and analysis from reporters around the world, plus access to a suite of subscriber-only newsletters.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Half Backronym: PISCES, ACI, MSTR

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 20, 2024 31:57 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss insider trading in private companies, the process of generating financial acronyms, supermarket antitrust, the grand reopening party of a Kings supermarket in New Jersey, and MicroStrategy's index inclusion, convertible bonds, and whole deal. Become a Bloomberg.com subscriber using our special intro offer at bloomberg.com/podcastoffer. You’ll unlock deep reporting, data and analysis from reporters around the world, plus access to a suite of subscriber-only newsletters.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Thin Gruel: Tetrahedron, Target, Firing

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 13, 2024 24:23 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt talk about levels of financial celebrity, The Onion's efforts to buy Infowars out of bankruptcy, whether DEI is securities fraud, and committing insider trading after getting fired. Become a Bloomberg.com subscriber using our special intro offer at bloomberg.com/podcastoffer. You’ll unlock deep reporting, data and analysis from reporters around the world, plus access to a suite of subscriber-only newsletters.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Good Conspiracy: ESG, Assemblies, HPS

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 6, 2024 32:32 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss whether index funds are illegal, whether ESG investing leads to cartel-like profits, whether jury duty for index fund investors is a good idea and whether we are in a golden age for selling private credit firms. Become a Bloomberg.com subscriber using our special intro offer at bloomberg.com/podcastoffer. You'll unlock deep reporting, data and analysis from reporters around the world, plus access to a suite of subscriber-only newsletters.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Chickenization: An Odd Lots Crossover

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 29, 2024 38:03 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt sit down with Tracy Alloway and Joe Weisenthal, hosts of the Odd Lots podcast, to discuss their new series on the chicken industry, Ray Dalio's connection to McNuggets, cheap protein, the Victorian chicken bubble, factory farming and Chicken Libor. You can listen to Odd Lots' Beak Capitalism here, here, and here. Become a Bloomberg.com subscriber using our special intro offer at bloomberg.com/podcastoffer. You'll unlock deep reporting, data and analysis from reporters around the world, plus access to a suite of subscriber-only newsletters.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Perpetual Motion Machine: Adani, MSTR, OSTK

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 22, 2024 30:09 Transcription Available


    Matt and Katie discuss the Adani bribery charges, the future of FCPA enforcement, MicroStrategy's Bitcoin strategy and the technology and legality of short squeezes. Become a Bloomberg.com subscriber using our special intro offer at bloomberg.com/podcastoffer. You'll unlock deep reporting, data and analysis from reporters around the world, plus access to a suite of subscriber-only newsletters.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Generous Portion: FTC, CMG, ETF

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 15, 2024 28:59 Transcription Available


    Matt and Katie talk about merger arbitrage, affordable luxury handbags, burrito bowl sizing, securities fraud and double Warren Buffett. Become a Bloomberg.com subscriber using our special intro offer at bloomberg.com/podcastoffer. You'll unlock deep reporting, data and analysis from reporters around the world, plus access to a suite of subscriber-only newsletters.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Garlic Cartel: Markets, Credit, Code

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2024 30:05 Transcription Available


    Matt and Katie discuss the price of garlic, anticompetitive price disclosure, the private credit gold rush and (allegedly) downloading quant models and fleeing the country. Become a Bloomberg.com subscriber using our special intro offer at bloomberg.com/podcastoffer. You'll unlock deep reporting, data and analysis from reporters around the world, plus access to a suite of subscriber-only newsletters.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Public Breakups: Polymarket, Taxes, SMCI

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2024 34:27 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt talk on Halloween about what election market prices might mean, how to defer taxes and Super Micro's auditors resigning in a huff.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Some Cigarettes: Accreditation, Memes, Naughty ESG

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2024 32:14 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss taking tests to buy risky investments, growing up from meme stocks to boring retirement investing, and what happens when ESG funds smoke the occasional cigarette.   Bloomberg wants to hear from you! Help make shows like ours even better by taking the Bloomberg audience survey and have a coffee on Bloomberg for doing so.  Become a Bloomberg.com subscriber using our special intro offer at bloomberg.com/podcastoffer. You'll unlock deep reporting, data and analysis from reporters around the world, plus access to a suite of subscriber-only newsletters.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    John Collison

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 18, 2024 49:17 Transcription Available


    Matt and Katie talk with their first guest, John Collison, the co-founder and president of Stripe, about the financial services business, why payments are hard, what's good about crypto, why IPOs don't matter and how to fly planes.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Technically a Horse: ETF, ETF, ETF

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2024 35:12 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss large ponies, small horses, puzzle hunts, portfolio trading, Jane Street's lack of a CEO, tax deferral, covered calls and yieldmaxxing.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Men's Haircuts: SATS, FLUT, APO

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 4, 2024 29:36 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss bond haircuts, literal haircuts, sports gambling, single-stock 0dte gambling and private assets in retirement accounts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Money Has No Meaning: OpenAI, AIWB, WWJD

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 27, 2024 30:15 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss nonprofits, capped-profits, for-profits, chatbot brokers, chatbot ETFs and biblically responsible investing. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Modular Cat Trees: A Mailbag Episode

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 20, 2024 36:03 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt answer reader questions about private markets being the new public markets, SEC fines, writing big stories, Icahn/Ackman activism, anti-leveraged ETFs, fake M&A, cat-based businesses, broker-dealers, naked shorts and our families' Money Stuff consumption.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Calm Knuckles: SEC, ETF, SPOT

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 13, 2024 31:18 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss SEC cell phone location data, private credit ETFs, and having robots make fake songs for the streaming revenue.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Fruitcakes and Nutcases: ETF, ATIC, DJT

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2024 34:28 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss single-stock leveraged ETFs, insurance for taxis and Florida real estate, the Trump Media lockup, and whether there are more readers of Money Stuff or Truth Social. Also, there will be a mailbag episode so we want good mailbag questions. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Pick Up the Phone: Shorts, PSUS, BLS

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2024 28:10 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss short selling disclaimers, how to sell a closed-end fund and calling up the government to get payroll revisions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Hurt People Hurt People: SBUX, LMEs, BofA

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 16, 2024 29:56 Transcription Available


    A between-vacations episode in which Katie and Matt discuss Starbucks's new CEO, the capital solutions business, banking hours and being a horse.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Guy on Twitter: PSUS, Left, ETFs

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 2, 2024 34:10 Transcription Available


    Matt and Katie discuss Pershing Square USA's IPO, Citron Research's short-and-distort charges, bond market liquidity, and Katie's trip to Paris to watch running.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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    All the Biggest Tombstones: M&A, ETF, Mailbag

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2024 34:44 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss fees for mergers and acquisitions, private assets in ETFs, liquidity mismatches, and reader questions about asset-manager parties, poker staking and finite alpha.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Don't Hate the Player: DJT, Bets, Funds

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 19, 2024 30:42 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss Trump Media's stock sale, people who are too good at sports betting and stock trading, and single-stock private funds. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Blood Farming: Purdue Pharma, empty voting and frozen heads

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 12, 2024 31:05 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss nonconsensual third-party releases, what comes next for the Oxycontin bankruptcy, empty voting in proxy fights, and writing your future clone into your will. Also we tease Katie's sci-fi novel and introduce a new member of Matt's family.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Just Keep Bidding: MMTLP, PE, ETFs

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2024 36:14 Transcription Available


    Katie and Matt discuss short squeezes past, present and future, interviewing for private equity jobs two years in advance, and how if you want to own stock but with less risk, you can just sell some of your stock.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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