Two Lawyers Walk Into a Bar

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We grabs drinks with prominent members of the legal community and talk about their career path to success. These conversations then become podcasts so listeners can soak up their wisdom and hear their varied journeys to professional accomplishment after law school.

Two Lawyers


    • Apr 23, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
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    • 43m AVG DURATION
    • 24 EPISODES

    5 from 86 ratings Listeners of Two Lawyers Walk Into a Bar that love the show mention: career paths, cooper, learned a lot, stars, fun, good, great.


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    The Two Lawyers Walk Into a Bar podcast is an exceptional show that engages guests in thoughtful and insightful conversations about their career paths. Hosted by Lee and Cooper, this podcast provides a valuable resource for college students and law students who are considering their own career paths. From the moment I started listening to this podcast, I was hooked. The hosts have a knack for creating a positive and inviting atmosphere that encourages guests to share their experiences and wisdom.

    One of the best aspects of The Two Lawyers Walk Into a Bar podcast is how well Lee and Cooper engage with their guests. They have a genuine curiosity about each guest's journey and are skilled at asking thought-provoking questions that delve into the intricacies of their career paths. This allows listeners to gain valuable insights into different areas of law and professions within the field. The hosts' enthusiasm is infectious, making each episode an enjoyable listen.

    Another highlight of this podcast is the wide range of guests that Lee and Cooper bring on board. They do an incredible job of showcasing lawyers from diverse backgrounds with unique career paths. Whether it's a lawyer specializing in criminal law, corporate law, or intellectual property, there is something for everyone in this podcast. This variety not only keeps the content fresh but also provides listeners with a broader perspective on the possibilities within the legal profession.

    While it's hard to find any significant drawbacks to this podcast, one minor criticism could be that some episodes may feel too short. Given the depth of knowledge shared by both hosts and guests, it would be great if certain episodes were longer to allow for more detailed discussions. However, this is merely a personal preference, as even in shorter episodes, Lee and Cooper manage to cover crucial aspects of each guest's career path effectively.

    In conclusion, The Two Lawyers Walk Into a Bar podcast is an absolute gem for college students and law students seeking guidance in their own career paths. With engaging hosts like Lee and Cooper who skillfully bring in experienced lawyers with fascinating stories, this podcast is a must-listen. The dedication and passion of the hosts shine through in every episode, making it a valuable resource for aspiring lawyers. I highly recommend giving this podcast a listen and joining Lee and Cooper on their journey as they continue to excel in their own careers.



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    Pradnya Desh: AI Powered Law

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 23, 2025 41:33


    In this episode of Two Lawyers Walk Into A Bar, Lee Bergstein sits down with Pradnya Desh, attorney and the CEO of Advocat AI. Pradnya and Advocat AI are making waves in the legal industry by utilizing AI to transform how businesses tackle the contract cycle.During the course of the conversation, Pradnya shares her journey from serving as U.S. Diplomat at the World Trade Organization and the UN Committee on Trade and Development in Geneva, to transitioning into private practice focusing on international trade, to founding and running Advocat AI. Beyond that, she is a Vice Chairperson on the Board of Trustees at Bellevue College and has served as an adjunct professor of business law at Seattle University.You can learn more about Advocat AI at https://www.advocat.ai/. And for more from Bergstein Flynn Knowlton & Pollina, check out our website at https://www.bfkplaw.com/. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Ira Leesfield: Bringing Empathy to the Practice of Law

    Play Episode Listen Later May 25, 2023 58:11


    In this episode of Two Lawyers Walk into a Bar, Lee Bergstein and Cooper Knowlton sit down with Ira Leesfield, the founder and managing partner of Leesfield Scolaro, a personal injury firm with offices in Miami, Key West, South Beach and Central Florida. Mr. Leesfield is one of the most prominent personal injury attorneys in the country, who was nominated as "Lawyer of the Year" by the Trial Lawyers for Public Justice, after he obtained a $19.8 million verdict against Honda Corp., and selected as one of America's Top Ten Trial Lawyers. During this conversation, Mr. Leesfield talks about how an eviction notice set him on the path to becoming a lawyer, his time in the Army and Justice Department, and how a chance meeting on a flight led him to personal injury work. He also chats about his friendships with the likes of Jimmy Buffett and President Bill Clinton, and talks about his time working in the Clinton Administration, where he was part of the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports and the Presidential Advisory Commission on Holocaust Assets. Mr. Leesfield has led a fascinating life and we feel lucky to be able to share this conversation with all of you. We hope you give it a listen. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Shaun Pappas: New York Real Estate Attorney

    Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2023 38:38


    In this episode of "Two Lawyers Walk into a Bar" Cooper Knowlton and Lee Bergstein chat with Shaun W. Pappas, a partner at Starr Associates LLP, who practices in the general real estate group with a focus on development and offering plans. During this conversation they chat about why Shaun decided to go to law school, why he started his career in litigation, and how he pivoted from litigation to real estate transactional work. Shaun also shares some valuable advice for aspiring law students, and for anyone interested in working in the world of New York real estate. It's a great conversation and we hope you give it a listen. Mr. Pappas works with developers, lenders and investors in the acquisition, sale, and financing of complex commercial, mixed-use, and luxury residential properties in New York. Mr. Pappas assists clients in all aspects of project development, including the preparation of offering plans, drafting declarations, the condominium creation process, negotiation of purchase and sale agreements, and the closing of title. In addition, Mr. Pappas collaborates with the project's development team, including sales and marketing, architects and engineers, managing agents, and other general counsel to expeditiously move projects from inception through approval and ultimately to the negotiation of purchase and sale agreements as well as closings. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Tom Hanley: How a Real Estate Attorney Became a Peace Negotiator

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 5, 2022 58:35


    Tom Hanley is a partner at Glaser Weil in Los Angeles, where he leads a transactional real estate practice advising investors, joint venture partners, lenders and developers in all aspects of purchases, sales, financings, lease agreements and joint ventures. In this episode, he chats with Lee and Cooper about his path to law school, his early struggles with ADD, his transition from litigation to transactional work, and growing a real estate practice in Los Angeles. Tom also discusses how he ended up serving as a peace negotiator for the conflict in Bosnia, and negotiating one of the most successful cease-fires of the war, and shares how this experience affected his legal career and what it took to build back up a practice after a leave of absence. Tom is a fascinating individual and hope you take some time to hear his story! Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Jerry Goldfeder: Renowned Election Law Attorney

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2022 45:23


    Lee Bergstein and Cooper Knowlton chat with election law attorney Jerry Goldfeder about the inflection points in his storied career. The conversation also serves as a history lesson for anyone interested in New York City politics, and a roadmap for any lawyers considering entering the field of election law. (You can also tune in for a rare story involving Representative Jerry Nadler without a shirt and tie.) It's a great talk, and we hope you give it a listen. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Practicing During the Pandemic: Maria Saenz

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 27, 2020 13:23


    Maria Sanez is an immigration attorney who represents clients throughout the United States in all types of immigration matters. During this call she discusses how her cases are being affected by the shutdowns and how she is advising clients during this time. Maria also discusses how she is managing to run her practice in the virtual world. You can learn more about Maria and her practice here: https://www.mariasaenzlaw.com/ See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Practicing During the Pandemic: Matthew Salimbene

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 24, 2020 19:56


    New York based personal injury attorney Matthew Salimbene discusses what is happening in New York Civil Courts and discusses how his cases are being affected by the current state of the world. To learn more about Matthew and his practice visit: https://www.salimbenelaw.com/. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Practicing During the Pandemic: Damali Peterman

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 23, 2020 16:54


    Lawyer, mediator, and educator Damali Peterman shares thoughts on how she is helping clients adapt during this time and discusses how she is being forced to adapt as a business owner herself.You can learn more about Damali here: https://damalilaw.com/ See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Joel Cohen: The Path to Founding TalksOnLaw

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2020 50:48


    Joel Cohen is a former Skadden Arps attorney who founded TalksOnLaw, an online platform where legal experts share cutting edge ideas, and deliver CLEs through captivating and informative video content. During this conversation Joel discusses why he decided to get an LLM, what it was like starting his career at Skadden, and the moment he realized the world of big law was not for him. Joel also talks about the path that led him to TalksOnLaw, and shares some valuable insights for any lawyers out there who are interested in entrepreneurship. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Adam Safir: A Career in Security & Intelligence

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 16, 2019 52:19


    Adam Safir is the head of Safir Intelligence & Security where he uses his diverse career experiences in law, finance, M&A, security, forensics and data management to help clients reduce, navigate and respond to a full spectrum of security and integrity risks. In this episode Adam shares stories about his early years at the University of Virginia, selling cars in Queens, working at the New York Stock Exchange, and his love of music. He also talks about starting his career at Sony, transiting to Wall Street, and ending up working for the family business. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Tyler Reynolds: From the Law to Real Estate and Finance

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 5, 2019 46:42


    On this episode we chat with Tyler Reynolds a real estate developer at Singh Investors and the Vice President of Eyos Investors a Private Equity fund involved in the acquisition of properties in the hospitality industry. During our conversation Tyler discusses his experiences at Reed College, how he ended up working as an organizer for lobsterman in Maine, and the corruption trial that led him to apply to law school. We also discuss Tyler's path through law school to the New York Attorney General's Office and how he ended up getting back in the world of real estate development and private equity. Tyler also explains how NOT to do law school and shares some great career advice for anyone starting their first job. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Steve Cohen: A Lifetime of Stories

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 21, 2019 57:24


    Steve Cohen is a partner with the Pollock | Cohen LLP law firm in New York, where he focuses primarily on handling whistleblower/qui tam claims, class actions and mass torts. Before entering the legal profession, Mr. Cohen led a successful career spanning more than 35 years in the publishing industry. He served as an executive at both Time and Scholastic, and he was the CEO of several internet-based start-ups. In this episode Steve talks to us about getting kicked out of the Navel Academy, his years in politics, writing ads for Ronald Reagan, serving on four juries, and visiting the Playboy Mansion. He also explains how he ended up in law school at the age of 58 and what it was like being "the old guy" in his law school class. We also chat about how his legal career began and the important work being done at Pollock | Cohen LLP. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Aitan Goelman: From OKC to the CFTC, a Top Trial Lawyer Shares His Journey

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2018 50:25


    Aitan Goelman is a litigation partner at Zuckerman Spaeder in Washington, DC, where his practice focuses on white-collar crime and complex commercial litigation. He is the former Director of the Division of Enforcement at the CFTC and was the youngest member of the team prosecuting Oklahoma City bombing suspects Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols. On this episode we discuss Aitan's years at Yale Law School, his experience clerking for Justice Aharon Barak on the Supreme Court of Israel, starting his career as part of the DOJ Attorney General’s Honors Program, and what it was like working on the Oklahoma City Bombing Task Force. Aitan also shares stories from his time as a prosecutor at the Southern District of New York, discusses his time at the CFTC, and talks about what it's like practicing at Zuckerman Spaeder.You can learn more about Aitan here.And to learn more about Cooper and Lee check out www.bfklawoffice.com. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Paul Casteleiro: Standing Up for the Wrongfully Convicted

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2018 52:10


    Paul Casteleiro is the Legal Director for Centurion, the first organization in the world dedicated to the vindication of the wrongly convicted. Prior to taking this position in October 2014, Paul was a sole practitioner with law offices in Hoboken, New Jersey where his specialty was criminal trial and appellate work. On this episode Paul shares stories about interning at the ACLU, working on the Chicago Seven trial, his time at the Hudson County Public Defender's Office, his first trial, and starting his own practice. Paul also talks about how to comport yourself in a courtroom and shares advice for anyone interested in doing work on wrongful convictions. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Judge Kenneth Holder: Life Before the Bench

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 6, 2018 63:38


    Kenneth C. Holder is a justice of the Queens County Supreme Court, Criminal Term in the 11th Judicial District of New York. He was elected to this position in 2008 and his current term expires in 2021. On this episode Judge Holder discusses growing up overseas, his passion for photography, his experiences at the University of Toledo Law School, starting his career at the Queens District Attorney's Office, and rising the ranks in the Narcotics Bureau in that office. Judge Holder also shares some stories from his years at the District Attorney's Office and talks about starting the first Drug Court in Queens. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    David Shanies: How One Case Can Change Your Life

    Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2018 40:04


    David Shanies is a skilled litigator who started his own civil rights practice after spending ten years as an associate at Hughes Hubbard & Reed LLP. In this episode David discusses how he ended up at NYU Law School, his years at Hughes Hubbard, his experience clerking, and the pro bono case that changed his life. David also shares advice for anyone thinking about starting their own practice and gives some insight on how he finds clients.You can learn more about David here.And to learn more about Cooper and Lee visit www.bfklawoffice.com. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Silvia Serpe: Seizing The Opportunity

    Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2018 44:39


    Silvia L. Serpe is a seasoned litigator and criminal and government enforcement defense lawyer at Serpe Ryan LLP. In this episode Silvia chats about spending seven years at Cornell, starting her career at Davis Polk, clerking in the Southern District of New York, serving as an Assistant U.S. Attorney in the Civil Division, the transition back to private practice, and starting her own firm. Silvia also shares her thoughts on being a woman in the law, the importance of being honest and asking for what you want, and advice for anyone thinking of starting their own practice.You can learn more about Silvia hereAnd to learn more about Cooper and Lee visit www.bfklawoffice.com See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Brian Cuban: The Addicted Lawyer

    Play Episode Listen Later May 8, 2018 42:11


    Brian Cuban is a Dallas-based attorney, author, and addiction recovery advocate. His best-selling book, "The Addicted Lawyer, Tales of the Bar, Booze, Blow, and Redemption," is a look back at how addiction to alcohol and drugs as well as other mental health issues destroyed his career as a once successful lawyer. In this episode Cuban talks about his struggles with an eating disorder, how alcohol abuse affected his law school experience, and how he developed a cocaine addiction while practicing law in Dallas. Cuban also discusses why drug and alcohol abuse is so prevalent in the legal community and shares some resources for law students struggling with addiction.To learn more about Brian check out his website here.And to learn more about Cooper and Lee check out: www.bfklawoffice.com See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Christopher Renfroe: Always in the Fight

    Play Episode Listen Later May 2, 2018 41:41


    Christopher Renfroe, from Renfroe Driscoll & Foster, LLP, is a seasoned criminal defense attorney with over thirty years of experience. He is often sought after for the most difficult cases, including the defense of the first death penalty case tried in Queens County. In this episode Chris shares stories about selling suits to pay for college, his first murder trial, and his early years working at the Legal Aid Society. He also talks about how he deals with the emotional toll of doing criminal defense work, the importance of having mentors, living life with no regrets, and always doing the right thing.You can learn more about Chris here.And if you want to learn more about Cooper and Lee check out: www.bfklawoffice.com. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Christian Lang: From Big Law to Big Ideas

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2018 59:19


    Christian Lang is a former associate at Davis Polk and the founder of Blacklines and Billables, a blog, forum, and podcast dedicated to sharing practical tips and tricks for success among law firm associates and starting conversations around other important aspects of associate life, such as the state of legal technology. On this episode Christian shares stories about leading Segway tours through Paris, spending hundreds of hours on his law school personal statement, why he chose NYU Law School, choosing corporate law over litigation, clerking in Tampa, Florida, and his years at Davis Polk. Christian also shares some tips for achieving success as a corporate associate and his thoughts on the future of legal tech. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Damali Peterman: Taking the Circuitous Path to Your Dream Job

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 16, 2018 44:30


    Damali Peterman is the CEO of Damali Law LLC and is a skilled corporate attorney, negotiator, mediator, and educator with experience working with clients throughout the world, across a wide array of industries. On this episode we discuss Damali's love for learning languages, the value in taking time off between undergrad and law school, attending law school at Howard University School of Law, working as a corporate associate in the Mergers & Acquisitions group at Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP, the experience of being a woman of color in big law, and why she decided to start her own practice. Demali also doles out some great advice about not being afraid to ask for what you want in your career and living life with no regrets.See Damali's full bio hereFor more on Cooper and Lee visit www.bfklawoffice.com See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Michael Grudberg: A Career in White Collar Criminal Defense

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 14, 2018 44:23


    Michael J. Grudberg is a partner in the White Collar and Government Investigations Practice at Tarter Krinsky & Drogin LLP. On this episode we discuss Michael's path to Yale Law School, his clerkship experience on the Second Circuit, why he decided to practice at a small firm, and his career as a white collar criminal defense attorney.See Michael's full bio hereAnd for more on Cooper and Lee visit www.bfklawoffice.com See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    Steven Feldman: Becoming a Federal Prosecutor and the Transition Back to Private Practice

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 14, 2018 52:31


    Steve Feldman works at Murphy & McGonigle where his practice focuses on white collar criminal litigation and securities enforcement matters. On this episode we discuss Steve's early years working on political campaigns, his clerkship experience, why he started out a small litigation boutique, his time as an Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, and his path back to private practice.See Steven's full Bio hereAnd for more on Cooper and Lee visit www.bfklawoffice.com See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

    The Intro Episode: Meet Cooper and Lee

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 7, 2018 7:00


    Welcome to the "Two Lawyers Walk into a Bar" podcast.Are you a law student, a young lawyer or a seasoned vet looking to make a career change? Have you or a loved one been injured in a car accident? If the answer to the first is yes and the answer to the second is no (and please stop calling me), then this is the podcast for you.Every week the "Two Lawyers Walk into a Bar" podcast brings you a conversation with a prominent legal professional. During these conversations we’ll work to understand what made them successful, by examining the early years of their careers. We will also dole out advice on topics like surviving law school, preparing for job interviews, and creating a career (and maybe even a life) of meaning. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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