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On July 6, 1944, an estimated 7,000 people, mostly women and children, gathered at the Barbour Street fairgrounds in Hartford, Connecticut to see the Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Baily Circus. Inside the big top tent, the lion show had just ended, and the Flying Wallendas were getting ready to begin their performance when the tent caught fire, sending the large audience into a panic as the spectators and performers rushed to get to safety. The tent, which had been coated in paraffin wax, was quickly engulfed in flames and by the time the fire was put out, 139 people were dead and hundreds were badly injured. In the weeks that followed, another twenty-eight would die from their injuries. At the time, the Hartford circus fire was one of the worst fires in American history, and it remains one of the biggest tragedies in the state's history. Thank you to the incredible Dave White of Bring Me the Axe Podcast for research!ReferencesCavanaugh, Jack. 1994. "The Hartford fire, 50 years later." New York Times, July 3: CN1.Daily Boston Globe. 1945. "7 Ringling officials held responsible by coroner for Hartford circus fire." Daily Boston Globe, January 12: 12.—. 1950. "Circus holocaust, 4 N.E. murders laid to N.H. man." Daily Boston Globe, Juky 1: 1.—. 1950. "Psychiatrist to examine youth who thinks he set Hartford circus fire." Daily Boston Globe, May 21: C29.Davis, John. 1944. "Circus Fire is described by witness." Hartford Courant, July 7: 3.Ensworth, Bob. 1944. "Quick-witted show folks saved many, soldier declares." Daily Boston Globe, July 7: 1.Glaberson, William. 1991. "Our towns." New York Times, August 2: B2.Hartford Courant. 1944. "113 children, mothers not yet located." Hartford Courant, July 7: 1.—. 1944. "'Flying Wallendas' on high wire when flames swept through tent." Hartford Courant, July 7: 1.—. 1944. "Negligence facts found says Alcorn." Hartford Courant, July 8: 1.—. 1944. "Panic and blaze trap hundreds." Hartford Courant, July 7: 1.—. 1944. "Thousands attracted by circus here." Hartford Courant, July 6: 1.—. 1944. "Tossed cigarette blamed for fire by ushers, police." Hartford Courant, July 7: 1.Kelley, Robert. 1945. "The strange case of Little Miss No. 1565 still baffles police." Daily Boston Globe, July 16: 1.Linscott, Seymour. 1944. "136 die in circus fire." Daily Boston Globe, July 7: 1.Los Angeles Evening Citizen News. 1950. "Quiz firebug suspect in '44 circus tragedy." Los Angeles Evening Citizen News, May 19: 1.Morning Edition. 2007. Remembering the Horror and Heroes of a Circus Fire. July 6. Accessed July 2, 2024. https://www.npr.org/2007/07/06/11768511/remembering-the-horror-and-heroes-of-a-circus-fire.New York Times. 1950. "Arson killer sane, psychiatrists find." New York Times, November 2: 47.—. 1950. "Arsonist imprisoned; admitted 172 deaths." New York Times, November 4: 34.—. 1944. "Children caught in frenzied mass." New York Times, July 7: 11.—. 1950. "Some doubts raised in arson confession." New York Times, July 2: 27.Ross, Leonora. 1944. "Hartford tragedy leaves cricus artisits staggered." Daily Boston Globe, July 8: 2.Skidgell, Michael. 2019. The Hartford Circus Fire. Mount Pleasant, SC: Arcadia Publishing.Smith, John Henry. 2024. 80 years ago, a gas-soaked roof and WWII created a perfect storm for the Hartford circus tragedy . July 1. Accessed July 1, 2024. https://www.ctpublic.org/news/2024-07-01/80-years-ago-a-gas-soaked-roof-and-wwii-created-a-perfect-storm-for-the-hartford-circus-tragedy.Tuohy, Lynne. 2004. "Back to the circus." Hartford Courant, May 16: 69.United Press. 1942. "Scores of animals killed in $125,000 circus fire." Brooklyn Citizen, August 4: 1.Wallenfeldt, Jeff. 2024. Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus. May 31. Accessed July 1, 2024. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Ringling-Bros-and-Barnum-and-Bailey-Combined-Shows/Ringling-Bros-and-Barnum-Bailey-Combined-Shows.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Missed the Hacks & Wonks consultant roundtable? Never fear! On today's show you'll catch up on the first half of it. Consultants Riall Johnson of Prism Consulting, Michael Charles of Upper Left Strategies, and Heather Weiner join Crystal to discuss the results of the primary elections earlier this month, and what we can expect from the rest of election season. On today's show they discuss the mayoral primary election results, Charter Amendment 29 / Compassion Seattle, and the primary results for City Council Position 9 (City Wide). As always, a full text transcript of the show is available below and at officialhacksandwonks.com. Find the host, Crystal Fincher on Twitter at @finchfrii, Michael Charles at @mikeychuck, Heather Weiner at @hlweiner, and Riall Johnson at @RiallJohnson. More info is available at officialhacksandwonks.com.   Resources Watch the entire consultant roundtable here: https://twitter.com/finchfrii/status/1425987129218240517?s=21 “Bruce Harrell, M. Lorena González eye November race after dominating Seattle's mayoral primary” by Daniel Beekman from The Seattle Times: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/bruce-harrell-m-lorena-gonzalez-eye-november-race-after-dominating-seattles-mayoral-primary/ “2021 Primary Precinct Results Show Familiar Rich vs. Rent-burdened Battle Lines” by Doug Trumm from The Urbanist: https://www.theurbanist.org/2021/08/19/2021-primary-precinct-results-show-familiar-rich-vs-rent-burdened-battle-lines/ “The C Is for Crank: Correcting the Record on Compassion Seattle” by Erica C. Barnett at Publicola: https://publicola.com/2021/07/13/the-c-is-for-crank-correcting-the-record-on-compassion-seattle/ “Seattle mayoral race filled with ads, PAC money, and cash” by David Hyde and Gracie Todd at KUOW: https://www.kuow.org/stories/as-candidates-court-voters-with-campaign-ads-pac-cash-flows-into-seattle-s-mayoral-race “Where This Year's Campaign Money Is Coming From” by Erica C. Barnett from Publicola: https://publicola.com/2021/06/15/where-this-years-campaign-money-is-coming-from/ “Seattle's 2021 primary just set up a ‘battle royale' in November” by Angela King from KUOW: https://www.kuow.org/stories/seattle-primary-sets-up-battle-royale-in-november “Nikkita Oliver overtakes Sara Nelson to assume the lead for Seattle City Council #9” by Andrew Villeneuve: https://www.nwprogressive.org/weblog/2021/08/nikkita-oliver-overtakes-sara-nelson-to-assume-the-lead-for-seattle-city-council-9.html Carolyn Bick's coverage of policing for the South Seattle Emerald: https://southseattleemerald.com/?s=carolyn+bick   Transcript Crystal Fincher: Welcome to Hacks & Wonks. I'm your host Crystal Fincher. On this show, we talk to political hacks and policy wonks, to gather insight into local politics and policy through the lens of those doing the work. And, provide behind the scenes perspectives on politics in our state. Full transcripts and resources referenced in the show are always available at OfficialHacksAndWonks.com, and in our episode notes. Hello, welcome to the Hacks & Wonks Post-Primary Consultant Round Table. I'm Crystal Fincher, the host of Hacks & Wonks, and a political consultant. And today, I'm thrilled to be joined by three of my favorite political consultants, to break down what happened and last week's primary election. First, I want to introduce Riall Johnson. Hey, Riall, thank you for joining us. Also, Heather Weiner. Hello. And, Michael Charles. So, I just wanted to start off by letting you give a quick synopsis of what you've been doing, what you're working on this cycle, and the types of races that you work on. So, I will start with Riall. Riall Johnson: Hi, thanks for having me. Riall Johnson, manager of Prism Washington. We've work on a lot of progressive campaigns around the region. We had about 16 candidates running this year for office. 12 of them were people of color, 15 of them ended up making it through the primary or didn't have a primary. So, we count those going through. So, hopefully, all 50 of them can win the general, but a lot of, just really focused on helping candidates that usually don't have the institutional support getting that leg up, especially at the beginning of the campaign, to make it to overcome those hurdles, and making more people from the community run for office. Crystal Fincher: Thank you. And, Michael Charles. Michael Charles: Great. My name is Michael Charles. I'm the managing partner of Upper Left Strategies. We have about eight candidates this cycle, which I did 15 before Riall, That's why I don't have any hair anymore. But yeah, we're excited. But we're similar to Riall. We work with progressive folks. We really like challenging the establishment and taking on tough races that people don't expect our folks to win. And we really like to do good job and get out there and win. So, we're excited this cycle, to have a lot of good candidates, countywide and citywide, and we're just excited about the work we're doing. And, thanks for having me here today. Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. And, Heather Weiner. Heather Weiner: I am so honored to be here with you Crystal and also with Riall and Michael, who have just been kicking some serious butt over the last few years, and particularly, in this cycle. In contrast, I'm only working as a consultant with Lorena González. Who's running for mayor in Seattle. And most of the campaigns that I'm working on, are not on the ballot this year. They're mostly issue in legislative campaigns. Crystal Fincher: You said that super, all modest, only working on Lorena González. Basically, if you want to win a ballot initiative, you call Heather Wiener, is basically where we're at. Well-known for so many big progressive wins. So, thrilled to have you along with Riall and Michael Charles here, with Crystal Fincher with Fincher Consulting. I have worked with a lot of candidates. Now, mostly focusing on ballot initiatives and independent expenditures, but I wanted to kick off this conversation, starting off, looking at the Seattle mayoral race. Heather, you just mentioned that you're working with Lorena González, who was one of the two candidates who made it through, along with Bruce Harrell. So, starting off, what do you think of the results? Was this what you were expecting? And? what do you think this says about the voters in Seattle? Heather Weiner: Well, let me give you, first, my spin answer. Oh, yeah. We knew that Lorena was definitely going to be in the top two, and come within two points. That seems totally natural and we just totally thought that that was what's going to happen. Okay. Now, let me give you the real answer. Oh, my God. We were blown away. We knew we were going to be in the top two, but we thought that Bruce Harrell would have a larger lead, at this point, that he would have coalesced some of the Republicans/more conservative elements. And, particularly with the results that we saw in some of the other races, we definitely thought that Lorena would be in the twenties. So, we were very surprised at her great showing there. And, I do have to say a lot of that had to do with name recognition, of course. Also, the amazing amount of support that she got from labor. And also, I think the people who are informed voters in the primary being concerned about, Bruce Harrell, making it through. So, I was very excited. And in fact, I think, made a fool out of myself in the party, some bloggers and reporters reported on somebody running around cheering and making an ass out of herself. And that, I will 100% admit, was me. Crystal Fincher: So, for Michael and Riall, we all saw the public that was done in this. So, I'm sure we all heard about some of the internal cooling from the campaigns that showed a lot of voters, the majority of the voters undecided heading into the final stages of the primary campaign. But, I think it's fair to characterize the polling as showing Bruce and Lorena González in the lead. Bruce, usually, leading those as Heather mentioned, by a wider margin. Then, we saw in the actual results. But, we also saw that Colleen Echohawk seem to have more traction in polling, then resulted in the final election tally that Jessyn Farrell was talking about different stuff. So, what do you think accounts for the polling that we saw and the difference in the results that we got? Michael Charles: I do think that these folks were really independent, or they were undecided at the time, but as I've stated many times on your show, that I think there's two parties in Seattle now, it's the Seattle Times and it's The Stranger. And, those two make up the bulk of voters in Seattle, now. And if you get The Stranger vote, you're going to make up the mind to a lot of those undecided voters that were deciding between Colleen. And I thought that The Stranger actually, devastatingly for Colleen, made a pretty good argument for why you wouldn't want to vote for her. Crystal Fincher: What do you think, Riall? Riall Johnson: Yeah. The Stranger and the times are really big forces in terms of the primary vote and who else gets through. One thing I know is, I worked with Andrew Grant Houston (Ace). We had a lot of people that gave vouchers to Andrew, but they still voted for Lorena. Basically, out of a lot of fear for someone, they feel that Lorena was the person that could beat Bruce. And, it's a valid argument, that you're afraid of giving us some money and then and then voted for someone else, because they didn't probably didn't feel Ace had the name recognition to get to the general. Well, like I said, it's disappointing. And of course, on my end, but also, you see why it happened. And I think what's like other candidates, people always talk about wanting to change and new, but also experiencing new recognition still hold strong in a lot of things.   Riall Johnson: And I think that's what Lorena did. She did a great job of wrapping up a lot of the union support, I think coalescing in progressive organizations show that she built a good coalition of progressive establishment support, which I think, really carried her through. And, that's what The Stranger saw. I think Colleen, I was actually, even when we first heard about Colleen, excited about, I think you saw like who was supporting her and the policies. There wasn't really a lot lining a lot with Bruce, I think, which made people fall off in the end, and then when people, primary numbers do look at platforms and they see what that Lorena's platform was more of on progressive side, than they were with Colleen. And I think that's what helped, in the end, probably steer people away from Colleen towards Lorena.   Heather Weiner: I really wanted to find out from you two, what you thought about some of the negative messaging that was out there, from people on the right who were sending out, the Seattle is dying type mail. Seattle had enough, was a mail that I saw. Did you think that that would depress votes, do you think that's motivating to voters? What do you think is the interaction with that kind of campaigning?   Riall Johnson: It probably depresses you, because voter turnout was low. Way lower than I expected. I was hoping there would be some residual voter turnout increase from the 2020 election, where 75%, 85% of Seattle voted. And now it's down to, 36% right now. Something like that, but we're going to probably crack for you hopefully by the end, maybe. So, it's lower than it was two years ago, I think, it looks like, so far. The Seattle is dying message has been going on for 100, years as we've seen it. It's like, if it's not dead by now, then Seattle is just immortal. And, I think that the whole point is like, people are catching on, that it's just right-wing propaganda to say, like, the fastest growing in the country, is dying.   Riall Johnson: And it's just like, if it's dying, how come there's so much economic boom here? The only thing that I'll say is, Seattle is actually choking and it's choking the poor, and it's choking the working-class because people are getting priced out, because the rich here, are thriving so much in this booming the city. And, that's why we see people just... you If anything is dying, it's like, we're getting pushed out because of just the unfair... If anything is the right wing haven. I always joke about Seattle just because there's no income tax, billionaires live here for a reason. They get to crap on poor. I'm not allowed to cussing here, I would. And, the police get to get away with anything they want. It's just like, this is not the progressive city we live in. And I think, that narrative of Seattle dying, it's just more just demonizing homeless and demonizing poor people that make it feel like, people feel just because they see homeless is icky, and they want to just sweep them away with police. One thing that resonate is that, I think-   Michael Charles: Yeah. That's what I was going to say too, Riall, around the homelessness. And I think that, this election is so much about homelessness. It's the top issue. Everybody wants to talk about homelessness. And, I think if anything, that messaging drove people to think, who has the vision that's in line with me about how I think homelessness can be solved in the region. And I think that, especially considering that I feel like this electorate is probably the most conservative electorate you'll see every four years, which is post presidential election, primary in a city. It's going to be the most conservative electorate we can see, which I also think speaks to how powerful, or what strong positioning Lorena's in. And, that was literally the most conservative electorate we're going to see. And if she's only two points behind, that really makes me feel like she's connecting, clearly, on some issues with some folks, that otherwise wouldn't feel the same. And if anything, I think that actually helped Lorena in that case, to be honest, where a lot of the people that are tired of this messaging of Seattle's dying or like, I'm just tired of hearing it. So, they're going to vote for somebody that they think, actually, is the opposite of that. And so-   Heather Weiner: It's so interesting, because we know we did some polling about public safety issues. Because we saw some of the polling that was coming out of other... I was in the public polling that was talking about, oh, people are really scared. There's a big safety issue going on. People are really scared about crime. And certainly, you would think so, in seeing KIRO, KOMO, Q13, some of the mainstream media coverage of this, but when we actually ask people, "Well, how safe do you feel in your neighborhood?"   Heather Weiner: 83% said they felt very safe. So, we feel scared about what's happening somewhere else because that's what we're being told to feel. But, what we see with our own eyes and our own neighborhoods is, yeah, there are people who are living on the street and they are human beings and they are my neighbors, and I feel compassion and empathy to them. And we can also talk about Compassion Seattle. I hope that's on the agenda.   Crystal Fincher: It is on the agenda.   Heather Weiner: Before I give up the mic, let me just say, shout out to Riall, who helped his candidate max out on vouchers. He was the first one to help his candidate max out on vouchers, in the mayoral campaign, which is mind boggling hard, particularly for a candidate that most people haven't heard of. And then the second thing is, your candidate, Andrew, was so smart. So on-message, so unapologetic about the positions that he was taking. I think he did drive the narrative and drive the message and drive the debate on it. And so, I'm going to be able to say sorry. I'm sorry to not have him at those the upcoming forums. I really enjoyed having him there. I was totally into his headbands.   Michael Charles: And, Riall is unquestionable at getting vouchers at this point. I just think everybody needs to know that, that is undoubtedly the case.   Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. There is not anyone who is in the same tier, as Riall and Prism, when it comes to voucher game. Extends into regular signature gathering. Just fantastic, incredible job. And you just set a new bar throughout this cycle. The other thing-   Michael Charles: When you're making an establishment, you're managing to do something right.   Crystal Fincher: Yes.   Riall Johnson: They only had a few hearings about it.   Crystal Fincher: Change some rules in the middle of the cycle. One thing I wanted to just circle back on a little bit was, talking about the whole Seattle is dying narrative, which clearly didn't carry like people thought it would carry. And I think we've talked about this on the show before, but that is such a narrative. I think people confuse that narrative. I think sometimes, there are some entities when you look at historically like their cost per vote are very bad. A lot of times the more, business focused chamber candidate ask those ies, a lot of times, they're are not the most efficient at driving out votes.   Crystal Fincher: And it takes all that money that they throw at candidates, to drag them across the finish line. But that Seattle is dying narrative, does not work in Seattle. And I think, sometimes, people have some blinders on, within Seattle, thinking that that's an effective thing, when really that narrative works for people who are not familiar with Seattle, who don't live in Seattle, who are outside of Seattle. That's where that's gaining traction. But as you mentioned, Heather, that polling matches up with everything that we've seen before. And that, people who live in Seattle, don't feel that. They don't feel that as they're walking through their neighborhood, that they feel like they're in danger. They don't feel like, "Oh, the city that we thought we knew that this was utopia, is now this barren wasteland." And, there's lawlessness and anarchy and seeing the...   Heather Weiner: Well, let's be honest. There are a lot more people who are living on the street. And, with people living on the street, we are seeing, we are visually experiencing more trash or seeing people who are suffering more, we're seeing more drug use. And as a result, we all feel very uncomfortable. But, let's go back to what Riall was saying, which is, when you're talking about who's to blame here and what really the problem is, the problem is that, the money that was taken out of housing, out of mental health, out of treatment services back in 2011 by the State Legislature, was never put back into those budgets. And the cities and counties have then been left with the bill. And they are the ones who are now responsible for taking care of people who are being evicted, who can no longer pay the rent because of the recession, for the expansion of substance use disorder, because of trauma. And as a result, who's got to pay? And let me just go here and channel Andrew Grant Houston and say, big corporations are the ones who have got to pay, because they are the ones who are hoarding the wealth. Okay. I'm not running for office.   Crystal Fincher: Well, so I guess that, that is an interesting conversation. And looking at some of the other candidates, I guess a couple things. One, it appears that candidates who did favor the Compassion Seattle amendment, got more votes than candidates who did not favor the Compassion Seattle amendment, with the caveat that this is a primary election that we-   Michael Charles: But it was only Jessyn and Bruce, right, that really we're in favor of it, right?   Crystal Fincher: And Casey Sixkiller.   Michael Charles: And Sixkiller.   Crystal Fincher: Yeah.   Heather Weiner: Oh, yeah. Okay. That's right. That's probably true.   Riall Johnson: Colleen was, and then she wasn't.   Heather Weiner: And then she wasn't.   Michael Charles: Yeah. She's like half.   Heather Weiner: Yeah, yeah. Pretty close. Somebody who's listening, do the math.   Crystal Fincher: Yeah. It was there, but it was a primary electorate. There is not much messaging about Compassion Seattle. To your point, Heather, we're just getting started with the citywide conversation on Compassion Seattle. And, I think part of the challenge of it, as someone people who listened to Hacks & Wonks are not going to be surprised that I oppose the Compassion Seattle Charter Amendment 29, because it's codifying suites and doesn't do much to actually solve the root problems that cause homelessness. But, the messaging on it, the name, Compassion Seattle, the headlines that you hear on the evening news, it guarantees money to be spent on services and provides a humane, compassionate way to address the problem. Those are all things that people want. And, we haven't really gotten into a wide discussion city-wide or communication to people who don't pay attention to politics that much, on what the details of this actually are, and how might differ from the rhetoric there. So, candidates like Jessyn Farrell and Bruce Harrell, supported it. Do you think that is going to help or hinder them in the general election?   Riall Johnson: I think it's going to hinder them. We had to contend with these people on the streets and it was just a horrible initiative there. One night on the streets. And it was just like, they would try to take over terse on where people gathering voters were. Heather experienced it. So, you just use people. The way they did about that, they were just trying to bully their way into this initiative, and then bully in their way on the ballot. And it was really easy to get someone to see the side of things, if you pitched things right...   Riall Johnson: Because, that messaging, they would just say, it's going to help the homeless. Anything you can say can help the homeless' assaults objective. And, everyone wants to help the homeless, but the question is, what are they going to do about it? This whole thing about guaranteeing money, we've already been spending money on the homeless. Question is, what we do with it. People keep trying to blame the council for the problems. At this point, I can blame the council for, or get mad at them. But the thing is that, council is only like 20% of power, in the city. The rest of it resides in the mayor.   Riall Johnson: And we have had a corporate conservative mayor, for the last three decades. Maybe with the exception of Mike McGinn, he had his issues. With Ed Murray and Jenny Durkan, Tim Burgess and Bruce Harrell, who was also here, the last five mayors, and any before that. It's just been, corporate supported backed mayors, have just done with the corporations, one of them to do with Seattle and always giving police more money, giving corporations whatever they want, and then stripped funding. Even if when they get funding, they just don't spend it on housing or homeless situations. They just spend it on sweeping them, and sweeping money the other way. So it was like, we said we'd put money in it. We've been putting money at the sweeps, not even foreign money, actual housing. And, the mayor is the plane for all that, because council has given the mayor money for this, and mayor just doesn't choose it use it.   Riall Johnson: And people need to realize, the power resides in the mayor's office. That's why Andrew ran the first place. He's like, "We can be the most progressive City Council ever. We can be nine out of nine progressive City Council." Well, I think unless the mayor actually does what we ask them to do, which they have the choice not to. And, Durkan has been declining these choices in the county, misusing this money. There's not much a council can really do in the city. And, the thing is, unless they get they can do more to approve both, but we don't have that full progressive council. It's funny how they only try and blame Kshama or Tammy or the three per actual progressive, or the councils, or four progressive... But, they don't have the full power. Lorena has given money and shepherded a lot of bills, just doesn't get spent right. And even to that, I don't want to blame Bruce for everything the council do either, because the council can only do so much. Heather Weiner: Yeah, it's not a weak mayor, government that we have. It's a very strong mayor form of government that we have here. On C29, one of the things that's in the news, I don't know if you guys have seen, is that ACLU and some homelessness advocates and Transit Riders Union just filed a lawsuit yesterday, challenging C29. And, I am a lawyer. I don't play one on TV, but I think they have a good chance. And I don't want to bore your listeners by telling them why they have a good chance, but actually, I think they have a good chance. And, I think it also helps by ACLU, getting their name into the press, talking about how they oppose this, I think that also weakens that unofficial backdoor IE, that the Downtown Seattle Association and the chamber have going, right now.   Michael Charles: Well, polling has backed up that people are actually like, when they hear this on the surface, it's actually not a bad idea. And so, it's, I'm worried that with no official... We have a small amount of opposition, but I think Heather's right. I think that there's a good chance this gets through right now. And, without the right information, without people really understanding what's in the bill here, it's a really good chance it's going to pass. People are looking for a plan. People are looking for a vision. People want just something done on homelessness.   Heather Weiner: Right. And, if you look at their messaging, it's very much about the council, the council, the council. So, pointing the finger at them. So, yeah, I think C29 is going to be really interesting. I know you guys don't want to talk about Seattle politics the whole time, so I'll be quiet.   Riall Johnson: Isn't that what we're here for?   Crystal Fincher: Yeah.   Heather Weiner: Well, there are, actually, other cities in King County.   Crystal Fincher: There are, and we will get to them.   Michael Charles: Crystal lives in one of them. Just throwing that out there.   Crystal Fincher: I live in one of them, and I'm excited. We had one primary race. And, the candidate shares the same last name with me in Kent, and her results as the local paper record said, she dominated her two opponents. So, pleased with that, but-   Michael Charles: With minimal spend, mind you.   Crystal Fincher: Minimal spend, that cost per votes. It's pretty impressive. Nice work on that, Michael Charles. But, I do want to just put a bow on Charter BIM at 29. I'm looking forward to that lawsuit. I agree with the panel here, that the anti-campaign has a tough road, just because of the simplicity of the message favoring the pro-campaign. The devil really is in the details, significant devil in the details. But, you have to get to the details. And that's really hard without a concerted communication effort, which takes a lot of resources. And, the pro-campaign, clearly has the resource advantage. Doesn't mean it's impossible. Just means that the work is cut out for the anti-Charter Amendment 29 campaign ahead, but I'm sure they're going to have a lot of eager and talented people willing to put in that work.   Riall Johnson: Yeah. All you gotta do is tell people, "He's following the money. Look at who's funding him."   Crystal Fincher: Seriously. And, there was a story I think, by Jim Brunner this past week in the Seattle Times, talking about Trump's number one booster in the state giving to both the Bruce Harrell campaign, and the Charter Amendment 29 campaign.   Heather Weiner: Yeah. And, Bruce Harrell's IE. Let's make sure to give credit where credit's due. That was Danny Westneat, of all people.   Crystal Fincher: It was Danny Westneat.   Heather Weiner: Yes. Danny Westneat published that, just when I think I broke up with him.   Michael Charles: George Petrie is also one of the people that are fighting the eviction moratorium the most, that wants to end that. So, I would just throw that out there as well. Heather Weiner: Yeah. The landlord.   Crystal Fincher: Yeah. I hope to see covered in the general election, the story of campaign spending. It's an undertold story. And so many, especially Seattle campaigns and mayoral campaigns, I think that we have ignored to our detriment, the story of donors. Certainly, during the past two with Durkan and with Ed Murray, their rhetoric said one thing, their donor listed something completely different.   Michael Charles: I would add Dow Constantine to that list as well, as somebody who takes money from Amazon and lots of other places as well.   Crystal Fincher: It's something I think is a fair question to ask candidates. These are investments for access and policy from businesses, and you just have to ask them, why do they feel it's a good investment in that candidate? What return do they think they're getting? It's fair to ask that, for a lot of different ones. But, I think that one lesson we need to learn in politics is that, it's not that candidates are bought and sold, but organizations, companies know where a candidate stands, and they're giving with an expected result. And usually, that turns out to be correct. When you look at how someone governs, usually, there are no surprises when you look at their donors. That's something that Seattle voters have a history of ignoring. I hope they pay attention this time. And, I hope the media pays attention this time. That story by Danny Westneat, I thought it was excellent. I hope to see more.   Heather Weiner: Yeah, don't say that too loud. If he hears you, he's going to write something completely opposite of it.   Michael Charles: And shout out to like Erica. Erica Barnett, normally does a really good piece every year. I don't know. I didn't pay attention as close to this year. She did one on the mayor's race or City Council, but she normally does an excellent job on this, every year.   Crystal Fincher: She's been on top of it in covering that, in addition with Charter Amendment 29 also. So, PubliCola has been on that. The Urbanist has been doing more coverage of that, and has had a lot of great stories throughout that, in addition to the South Seattle Emerald. So, a hat tip to local Seattle media for being engaged in helping to hold candidates accountable and help to inform voter.   Heather Weiner: And to City Hall reporters, it is a thankless job but there's new people coming out. New people, you're sitting on Twitter who are following what's happening in City Hall. And, I really appreciate that, as a thankless job. I want to hear what you guys have to think about council race nine. Crystal Fincher: Yeah.   Riall Johnson: So first off, shout out to Carolyn Bick, as well for in South Seattle Emerald.   Crystal Fincher: Excellent.   Riall Johnson: Council race nine, this is like a lot of hopes and dreams you've been thinking about a little bit, that someone that doesn't have to follow the party establishment framework can actually win. And so, Nikkita getting through the primary gives hope that, we could actually break free of those two party system. And, that's my biggest joy from seeing Nikkita get through. It's just like, not only is that seeing someone from the community that's put in so much work in that leading movements, or imagine, leading protests, showing that and seeing that reflecting the electorate without party support, without party politics. Started their own party, and getting through and leading is just hugely exciting to watch the potential of that.   Riall Johnson: It's not the first person, obviously, Shannon did as well, Andrew did as well, but city-wide, was getting that much support. It's a testament to the community organizer that Nikkita is. And of course, I'm really good friends with the campaign manager, Shaun Scott, who's an amazing organizer. He's just knows how to get people without... You see their posts, you see 100 people coming up to campus. Because, they just got excited for that person. And that resonates with voters regardless of party. I think the side of that campaigns has been very contagious.   Heather Weiner: I love just to see some of the volunteer art around town. I had my two nieces visiting here from Florida, and all they could talk about was Nikkita. They're both 14 and 16, and they saw the art around town, and they were starting to tell me about this candidate named Nikkita. It was really inspiring and really interesting. I want to hear the T though. Let's say, I'm not involved with either DSA or the People's Party, what is going to happen if we have Nikkita and Shaun, both on the City Council? What do you think will happen? Will they work together? Do you think there's going to be tension? What's happening there?   Riall Johnson: I wish I could tell you. I don't know.   Michael Charles: Well, obviously, they represent two different things, right? DSA is not the same as People's Party. I feel like there's a big separation in their approach, and how they're going to go. Or, not even DSA, but what is it? What's Shaun's-   Riall Johnson: Socialist Alternative.   Michael Charles: Socialist Alternative. Yeah. I feel like they're totally different approaches. The way they go about problem solving, is a lot differently. And I say that in the way that, I think Shaun's approach is to throw bombs, right. And I don't know that Nikkita's approach is necessarily to throw bombs, but to speak truth to power. And I think those are two different things. And I know that Shaun's approach is about speaking truth to power, for sure. But, it's through the lens of capitalism versus everything else. And Nikkita's is more around equity, and how are we genuinely pushing equity in government?   Michael Charles: Not to throw too much, but I want to step back just from the D9 race itself. And I felt like that was like two things. One thing being, the day after punditry needs to be dead. We need to just stop doing a day after punditry. This is ridiculous. I can't tell you how many posts we read that was like, Nikkita underperformed. Sara Nelson was up by all these numbers. And then, here we are. Nikkita's clearly in the lead. And, it's switched, but secondly, there's no room for middle politics right here. And I think the mayor's race proved that. I think this race was the clearest example of, there's no room for anything, but you got to pick a team at this point. The voters have no room for nuance. You are either on the side, that's going to fight what's going on in this city, or you're cool with everything that's going on. You want more of the same. So, there's just no room for nuance. There's no room for, if they think you're the policy person or that you work for them. That's just not important in these races any longer. It's about, are you on our side or not? And, I think we're really clear.   Heather Weiner: No, Michael, you worked for a candidate in this race, right. For Brianna Thomas, who was very much in that lane, and wasn't able to break through both of those. And, I am a huge fan of Brianna Thomas. I voted for Brianna Thomas, and I know she's a friend of the show. Tell me, how it would have been different if either Nikkita or Sara was not in the race. I'm sorry. Am I sounding like I'm trying to host right now? Crystal, feel free to kick me-   Crystal Fincher: No, you're fine. This is a conversation.   Heather Weiner: All right. Sorry. I'm just really interested. Yeah.   Michael Charles: No. The thing is that Brianna has integrity. And, what she needed to do once Nikkita got in the race, was not like, if she wanted to get through, you had to pick a team. And, the fact is, Brianna's also really progressive, has progressive ideas. But if what you were looking for was that, you chose the person that had more history with that lane, that clearly was less intellectual about, explaining, you need to know this about city politics and you need to know this about city politics in order to get things done. And I think voters really with that of like, I don't care about the insider ball game. I just don't care. What I want is people that are going to stand up for these issues.   Michael Charles: And I think that for Brianna, it was hard. If Sara Nelson wasn't in the race, Brianna would have gotten through. If Nikkita wasn't in the race, Brianna would have gotten through. Traditionally, we look at Lisa Herbold. We look at Andrew Lewis. She's in the mold of a lot of the candidates or a lot of the current council members of a former staffer. She is what traditionally we have done in Seattle for politics. And so, I just think that it was a repudiation of the idea of more of the same. And they said, we want somebody that's more extreme to get done what we want done.   Riall Johnson: Also, I think it came down to name or condition. Nikkita has just been done a lot of work, been on the spotlight, led a lot of things, and people recognize. And also, you don't have DNS on the ballot. So, it was a nonpartisan race. People saw the progressive candidate that voter's pamphlets, all that stuff added up. And Brianna has been just doing a lot of great work for years. And, I hope people come away, recognizing the stuff that she's done behind the scenes. She's been that person behind the scenes, that workforce has just got things done. Like, the minimal wage. Even the very first minimum wage organize the SeaTac one, not just the statewide, but the SeaTac wage. A lot of policies that we are thankful that we pat ourselves on the back for, the progressive policy and City Council, Brianna got done.   Riall Johnson: So, I think you've got to give credit where credit's due. And hopefully, I don't think Brianna was done with Seattle, because she's just someone who…When we actually do turn this place into the progressive ****hole that Fox News thinks it is, we're going to need people like Brianna to get things done. So hopefully, we see more of her and her career, one way or another. She's sharp as they come. Hopefully, she's not done with Seattle.   Michael Charles: Brianna is not done with Seattle politics. In my opinion, I think that she's going to be an important part moving forward.   Heather Weiner: There's so few women of color who were running for office in the City of Seattle, and there's so many who are starting to run now, thanks to the three of you, in all of these other cities, and in King County. But, to have two women of color, running against each other in that race was painful to watch. Right. Because, we want to raise up women of color, as much as we can, everywhere.   Crystal Fincher: Go ahead, Michael.   Michael Charles: I was just going to say, I think it's good that we have multiple women of color running for office. I'm excited about that. I don't think we have to coalesce around the one or anything ever. Actually, I wish we had four women of color running in every race, always. That would be amazing. We would feel we're doing something right, if that's point.   Heather Weiner: And, that's a good point. We had two women of color running in this mayor's race with Lorena and Colleen Echohawk, which was fantastic. Yeah.   Michael Charles: And to have two Black women running, is almost even cooler.   Crystal Fincher: It's really cool. And I think it impacts the quality of the discourse. I've heard from several journalists who commented on the quality of the policy discussions in that Position 9 race, and the detail of Nikkita's policy, Brianna's policy. I don't know that Sara Nelson brought a lot of detail in policy to the table. But certainly, between Brianna and Nikkita, really talking about, not just a vision, but the plans to get there. I think in the mayoral race, multiple women of color running, and having more nuanced conversations and better conversations, I think that's a positive thing. I'm with Michael on that, I don't think that there can only be one. And I also appreciate it, because we don't have enough women of color running yet, we're still excited when it happens because it happens too infrequently.   Crystal Fincher: But, there's this tendency to be like, well, there could only be one who is the true and authentic person of color who can speak for all of the people of color. Right. And, we're definitely not a monolith. We have a lot of different perspectives. And I think the more people of color, women of color, more black women that run, we get to see the richness of how varied we are, how many different perspectives and solutions we can bring to the table. So, I like seeing people run. I wish that we could be able to elect great people, and not have to choose between two, if it would be great if they both could wind up an office? Sure. But when they end up running against each other, is it okay? And, do I think it is necessary? Unfortunately, no. I think that it's good to see those perspectives. And I agree that we have not seen the last of Brianna Thomas, and will be better for it, if she stays engaged.   Crystal Fincher: Thank you for listening to Hacks & Wonks. Our chief audio engineer at KVRU is Maurice Jones Jr. The producer of Hacks & Wonks is Lisl Stadler. You can find me on Twitter @finchfrii, spelled F-I-N-C-H-F-R-I-I, and now you can follow Hacks & Wonks on iTunes, Spotify, or wherever else you get your Podcasts. 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En este episodio número 23 tengo la alegría de conversar con mia migo y compañero de ministerio, Juan Miguel Torres, pastor de la iglesia C29 en Barcelona. Nos centramos en Mateo 7:12 para conversas acerca de las palabras de Jesús al decir que toda la ley y los profetas se engloban en esta acción: hacer con los demás lo que queremos que hagan con nosotros. Echamos un vistazo a la manera como está constituido el Tanaj (lo que nosotros conocemos como el Antiguo Testamento): ley, profetas y escritos; y vemos a que podía estarse refiriendo Jesús con sus palabras.

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Today's Featured Guest: Conflict 29s Chad MayNext Show: Malaak Harris on this grand Title Bout Enter undefeated 3-0 flyweight Chad May. On July 25th in Charleston, SC he will step into the cage for a chance at Conflict gold. A much watched contender, May is as hungry for this title shot as he is to return to fighting.4-1 Malaak Harris knows that reigniting the Conflict flyweight title carries a huge amount of glory, and he marches toward the Memminger on the 25th for his chance to reign at 125.The aggressive wrestling, striking and submission skills of Harris pitted against the slick BJJ and precise stand up of May create one of the most exciting ammy title fights of the year, and unquestionably one that will leave the winner not just a champion, but also take them to that next level in the Southeast.

Today's Featured Guest: Conflict 29s Chad MayNext Show: Malaak Harris on this grand Title Bout Enter undefeated 3-0 flyweight Chad May. On July 25th in Charleston, SC he will step into the cage for a chance at Conflict gold. A much watched contender, May is as hungry for this title shot as he is to return to fighting.4-1 Malaak Harris knows that reigniting the Conflict flyweight title carries a huge amount of glory, and he marches toward the Memminger on the 25th for his chance to reign at 125.The aggressive wrestling, striking and submission skills of Harris pitted against the slick BJJ and precise stand up of May create one of the most exciting ammy title fights of the year, and unquestionably one that will leave the winner not just a champion, but also take them to that next level in the Southeast.