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Lance Roberts & Danny Ratliff break down today's most pressing market and personal finance topics: selling pressure signals, credit spreads as a leading risk indicator, why chasing S&P 6,900 could cost you, and a private credit teaser. They evaluate REITs and AG&C valuations, profit-taking discipline, oil prices and airline costs, and which companies are most likely to mishandle AI. On the retirement side: reverse mortgages, annuities with LTC riders, private equity in 401(k)s, and how target date funds fit a broader strategy. They also cover GDP methodology, asset tokenization, stablecoins, stock hedging techniques, William Bernstein's quit-playing philosophy, active vs. passive investing, and Charlie Munger's three high-quality stock picks. Hosted by RIA Advisors Chief Investment Strategist, Lance Roberts, CIO, w Senior Investment Advisor, Danny Ratliff, CFP Produced by Brent Clanton, Executive Producer 0:00 - INTRO 0:59 - Selling Pressure Remains 2:57 - Pay Attention to Credit Spreads 5:21 - Don't Wait for 6,900 11:46 - Private Credit Teaser 13:07 - Thoughts on REIT's & AG&C: Is it Time to Buy? 15:12 - What is Your Method for Taking Profits? 19:15 - The Price of Oil & Airline Tickets 22:49 - Which Companies Will Screw Up AI Implementation? 26:42 - Home Equity Conversions - Reverse Mortgages 29:59 - Annuities w LTC Riders 31:29 - How is GDP Calculated? 32:40 - Asset Tokenization & StableCoin 34:36 - Isolating Stocks by Hedging 35:35 - William Bernstein - Quit Playing 38:52 - Active vs Passive Investing & Risk Management 42:42 - Charlie Munger's 3 High-quality Stocks 46:28 - Are Target Date Funds a Good Option? 47:17 - Private Equity Offerings in 401k? ------- Register for our next Candid Coffee, 3/21/26, and Ask Us Anything: https://realinvestmentadvice.com/resources/events/ask-us-anything/ ------- Do you enjoy our content? Rate us on Google: https://bit.ly/4b9JtEo ------- Watch Today's Full Video on our YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/live/Le3ZhnFfTqk ------- Watch our previous show, "Fixing Your Broken Emergency Fund," https://youtube.com/live/3x6MbhEYpcU?feature=share ------- Articles Mentioned in Today's Show: "Private Credit Stress: Will The Fed Backstop Exuberance Again?" https://realinvestmentadvice.com/resources/blog/private-credit-stress-will-the-fed-backstop-excuberance-again/ "USD Stable Coins And The Rebasement Of The US Dollar" https://realinvestmentadvice.com/resources/blog/usd-stable-coins-and-the-rebasement-of-the-us-dollar/ -------- The latest installment of our new feature, Before the Bell, "Rebalance Now Before the Rally Fades" is here: https://youtu.be/yAmYkDUWWW4 ------- Download Lance's Latest e-book, "Laws of Money & Wealth:"https://realinvestmentadvice.com/ria-e-guide-library/ -------- Subscribe to SimpleVisor: https://www.simplevisor.com/register-new -------- Connect with us on social: https://twitter.com/LanceRoberts https://www.facebook.com/RealInvestmentAdvice/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/realinvestmentadvice/ #PreMarket #StockMarketToday #PortfolioRebalancing #MarketOutlook #InvestingStrategy #InvestingStrategy #RetirementPlanning #MarketOutlook #PersonalFinance #WealthManagement
In episode 179 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Tony Sager conclude their discussion of 2026 cybersecurity predictions from seven CIS experts, as shared on the CIS website.Here are some highlights from our episode:01:09. How threat actors' adoption of Agentic AI is reshaping the defender's dilemma06:28. Public confidence: The primary focus for attackers seeking to undermine U.S. elections10:43. The surge in threat actors targeting operational technology and critical infrastructure12:29. Responsibility and the cost of fixing flawed things instead of secure by design16:29. Secure by design: An invitation to rethink architecture and plan for future adaptability17:24. Meeting cloud service prioritization with a foundation of defense for all things25:44. Supporting state and local cybersecurity maturity with both competence and character41:00. Feedback: The key to adapting security controls to evolving threats and technology use50:23. Embedding security into the heart of a businessResourcesEpisode 169: 2026 Cybersecurity Predictions from CIS — Pt 1Episode 174: 2026 Cybersecurity Predictions from CIS — Pt 2Multi-State Information Sharing and Analysis Center®CIS Critical Security Controls®How to Defend Against Iran's Cyber Retaliation PlaybookEpisode 178: Appropriate Defense to Iranian Threat ActivitySecure by DesignCollective SLTT Cyber DefenseEpisode 144: Carrying on the MS-ISAC's Character and CultureMonitoring and Support During the CrowdStrike Falcon OutageEpisode 110: How Security Culture and Corporate Culture MeshIf you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.
This week, we finsih up with Adrian, as he is starting to get a little bit too old to be an effective running back, but he's just the right age to go into massive amounts of debt, and get arrested, about once a year. He drives poorly while drinking, causes a delay on an LA to Houston flight, after he has to be removed from the plane, and is charged with domestic violence. He also still claims to hit his kids with a belt, and is in so much debt, that interest alone is thousands of dollars, every day! Will he get it together, or is this his future??? Pile 4 more people into your car, after you've been drinking, open up a gym, when you're millions of dollars in debt, and make sure that everyone knows that you still hit your kids with Adrian Peterson - Part 3!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS, STM & YSO merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS, STM & YSO!! Contact us on... instagram.com/smalltownmurder facebook.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com
Episode 1614: Captured MAGA
Sterilization wrap is a science unto itself. Individuals, organizations and companies around the world constantly seek safer, more durable options for keeping our patients safe, while considering the ecological effects of healthcare waste. In episode 146, host Casey Czarnowski speaks with members of the KiiP Group about shelf life, event-related risks and sustainability. The panel explores critical topics related to sterile wrap usage in healthcare settings, with an emphasis on the purpose and importance of IFU, best practices for sterile storage, metal mass and validated dry time, and opportunities for improving sterility assurance. The group references standards and regulations and closes with a discussion of the logistics of sterile wrap recycling. Packed with valuable information, this episode is worth 1.0 CE. Our Guests: Jennifer Zeck, BSN, RN, CRCST, CER, CIS Infection Prevention Clinical Specialist Solventum Malinda Elammari, CST, CSPM, CRCST, CIS, CHL, CER, CSPDT, CFER, CSIS, CLSSGB, HACP-IC Founder and Owner Crown Point Consulting Sade Brown, PhD Research and Development Engineer Owens and Minor Halyard Tanya Magaña Supplier Excellence Engineering Solventum Earn CE Now
Locals EP 274: Kings Of Trash
Episode 1613: Primary Mistakes
Dr. Satish Gadi, interventional cardiologist and vascular specialist at CIS in Baton Rouge and Prairieville, shares lifestyle tips to improve your overall cardiovascular health and well-being, including exercise, movement, and continued tips on nutrition and food choices. From sunlight and sleep to screen time and grounding, this episode highlights how these factors work together to play a vital role in keeping you healthy. Visit www.cardio.com for more information or to schedule an appointment with one of our providers.
This week, we check back in with Adrian, as he recovers from losing a son. He also quickly gets in trouble for a "whooping" that he put on his 4 year old son. He tries to say that beatings are what made him the man he became, but this beating seems to go beyond the norms, even for Texas, even though plenty of people say that he did nothing wrong. Pictures of the injuries horrify both a judge, and the NFL commissioner, and there are consequences in both of those arenas. But will the punishment fit the crime? Tell everyone that Jesus got you through the loss of your young son, as soon as you're done grieving one son, get in trouble for abusing another son, and make sure to never have a bit of remorse with Adrian Peterson - Part 2!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS, STM & YSO merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS, STM & YSO!! Contact us on... instagram.com/smalltownmurder facebook.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com
Episode 1612: Stripes
Dr. Satish Gadi, interventional cardiologist and vascular specialist at CIS in Baton Rouge and Prairieville, dives into what a heart-healthy diet really looks like - and how food, nutrition, and lifestyle impact our overall health.Visit www.cardio.com for more information or to schedule an appointment with one of our providers.
Episode 1611: Rage Quit
Threat intelligence too often arrives as a steady stream of alerts that don't translate into clear, timely decisions. This episode explores how public-sector intel flows today through channels like CISA, MS-ISAC, and CIS—and why changes in funding and distribution can reshape what organizations actually receive and when. We also imagine an all-in state approach, where states take a bigger role in getting actionable cyber intel to local businesses and organizations. From a higher-ed security leadership lens, we connect student data privacy and regulatory realities to the broader public–private challenge—and highlight community-driven efforts like the Redwood Project that strengthen trust-based, peer-to-peer intelligence sharing. This segment is sponsored by Arctic Wolf. Visit https://cisostoriespodcast.com/arcticwolf to learn more about them! Visit https://cisostoriespodcast.com for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://cisostoriespodcast.com/csp-222
Vanilla. Straight. Cis. Monogamous. How could this story possibly be sexy?A monogamous couple tried a dual massage in a foreign country. Mirrors on the ceiling. Pillows on the bed. Jacuzzi. Steam room. At first they wondered if they were allowed to have sex. They were. Hear the tale! If you have a story you think everyone should hear, write it up and send it in to Q@Savage.Love. This episode is brought to you by VB Health, Doctor-formulated supplements that work . To learn more about Load Boost, Drive Boost and Soaking Wet and to get 10% off, visit VB.Health when you use the code Savage.
El periodista reflexiona sobre la encuesta del CIS que coloca al amor como cuarto factor en una vida satisfactoria
Este viernes hemos terminado la semana consultándole al CIS en qué punto se encuentra el amor en nuestro país. Para casi el 80% de los españoles la coyunda es muy importante para tener una vida feliz. Además, Karlos Arguiñano ha venido a repasar con nosotros los fallos del programa y hoy ha tenido hasta para uno de nuestros nuevos personajes: Carlos Lozano. Y nos hemos alucinado con la polémica desatada en "Miss Camello", un certamen de belleza que se realiza en Omán. Al parecer, algunos de los animales que concursaban recibieron inyecciones de Botox y otros retoques estéticos por lo que fueron descalificados. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Este viernes hemos terminado la semana consultándole al CIS en qué punto se encuentra el amor en nuestro país. Para casi el 80% de los españoles la coyunda es muy importante para tener una vida feliz. Además, Karlos Arguiñano ha venido a repasar con nosotros los fallos del programa y hoy ha tenido hasta para uno de nuestros nuevos personajes: Carlos Lozano. Y nos hemos alucinado con la polémica desatada en "Miss Camello", un certamen de belleza que se realiza en Omán. Al parecer, algunos de los animales que concursaban recibieron inyecciones de Botox y otros retoques estéticos por lo que fueron descalificados. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Episode 1610: M.I.A.
This week, we celebrate episode 500!! We look at one of the greatest players to ever play his position, in NFL history. He has countless accolades, to attest to his football prowess. Only problem is, he also had quite the prowess for ending up in handcuffs. We start with his difficut, and sometimes tragic childhood, only to see him overcome these things. He also seems to believe that he's possibly above the law, which will make for crazy times!! Choose a location, so you can play "Dead Player Battleship", featuring horrible quarterbacks, realize that seeing your brother be killed, in front of you, would mess anyone up, and decide to NEVER hit a child, especially if it isn't even yours with Adrian Peterson - Part 1!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS, STM & YSO merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS, STM & YSO!! Contact us on... instagram.com/smalltownmurder facebook.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com
Episode 1608: Here We go Again
Today, we are dropping another episode in our "chats" series, but expanding the audience set to include more folks. This episode is Founder Chats - hearing from those scaling the companies themselves.In this episode, we are talking with Max Denevich, Co-founder and CRO of LoyaltyPlant. Max is going to share with us to road he travelled, entering into this industry, his go to market strategies, scaling across geographic region - and much, much more.QuestionsBefore we talk about products and scale, tell us a bit about your path to this point. What experiences shaped the way you think about business and leadership before LoyaltyPlant?At what point did you realise you wanted to work with complex, traditional industries rather than consumer apps or “easy” tech?Why foodtech, and specifically Quick Service Restaurants? What made you believe this industry had deep structural problems worth solving with technology?What made you decide to join LoyaltyPlant, and what potential did you see that others might have missed?You're often referred to as a co-founder today. How did the transition happen from an executive role to shaping the company's future at that level?LoyaltyPlant was close to running out of investment at one point. What were the first decisions that fundamentally changed the company's trajectory?What were the key milestones that turned LoyaltyPlant from a struggling company into a global enterprise business, from the first major client to scaling across 30 countries?You've worked across the US, UK, MENA, Europe, and CIS. What did you learn about scaling the same product across very different markets, and what absolutely doesn't translate?You built new go-to-market strategies that now generate over 90% of new sales. What did you change compared to a classic SaaS sales playbook, and why did it work in enterprise QSR?Margins are shrinking, aggregators dominate, and costs are rising. What's actually happening on the ground right now in QSR and foodtech, and how should companies adapt?Tell us about a decision you got wrong. What did it cost the business, and what did it teach you as a leader?What advice would you give founders building B2B products for traditional industries today, especially around scale, partnerships, and staying relevant?SponsorsUnblockedBraingrid.TECH DomainsMezmoLinkshttps://loyaltyplant.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/denevich/Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/codestory/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Episode 1608: Here We go Again
Life naturally evolves over time. Careers progress. Families grow. Priorities shift. The question is not whether change happens. It is whether your financial plan reflects where you are today. In this episode of Clear Money Talk, Tim Clairmont, MSFS™, LACP™, CFS®, CIS™, CAS®, Wealth Advisor and Tyler Andrews, CFP®, Wealth Advisor discuss why financial planning is not a one-time event. They explore how plans can quietly drift out of alignment and why intentional, recurring Strategy Sessions help ensure clarity over time. They also revisit the Five Principles of Financial Planning and explain how each one plays a role in keeping your strategy cohesive, intentional, and aligned with your long term goals. A well-designed plan should evolve as you do. If you find conversations like this helpful, subscribe to Clear Money Talk so you do not miss future episodes. You can also explore additional insights and resources at ClearFP.com.
Life naturally evolves over time. Careers progress. Families grow. Priorities shift. The question is not whether change happens. It is whether your financial plan reflects where you are today. In this episode of Clear Money Talk, Tim Clairmont, MSFS™, LACP™, CFS®, CIS™, CAS®, Wealth Advisor and Tyler Andrews, CFP®, Wealth Advisor discuss why financial planning is not a one-time event. They explore how plans can quietly drift out of alignment and why intentional, recurring Strategy Sessions help ensure clarity over time. They also revisit the Five Principles of Financial Planning and explain how each one plays a role in keeping your strategy cohesive, intentional, and aligned with your long term goals. A well-designed plan should evolve as you do. If you find conversations like this helpful, subscribe to Clear Money Talk so you do not miss future episodes. You can also explore additional insights and resources at ClearFP.com.
Episode 1706: Protest Fatigue
Episode 1605: USA Invasion
Guess who's been missing from this new wave of political organizing: CIS dudes. Alex grapples with how critique of toxic masculinity has left a gap in men's identity. And Sarah asks why so many progressive men are down to fuck, but not down to fight. Mentioned in the episode: Intentional Nonmonogamy Workshop | Sensitive New Age Guys | All About Love, by bell hooks | The Better Man, by Dr. Eric Fitzmedrud Follow us: mistakescast@gmail.com | https://www.instagram.com/mistakescast/ Logo design by roy franklin: www.whateverfactory.org
Episode 1604: Royal Pains
This week, we finish up this wild story with Steve, getting back into the NHL, only to barely play, and end up unemployed. He fills in this employment gap by going down to Bolivia, and trying to smuggle cocaine into Canada, with a wild & fun excuse. He does his prison time, only to get back into drugs, and end up in more trouble, including running an "escort service" that definitely wasn't legal. All of this, and his sad, pitiful ending! Keep telling NHL teams that you're ready to stop getting in trouble, tell a judge that you didn't know there was a lot of cocaine, in your shoes, and destroy your body with drugs with Steve "Mental Case" Durbano - Part 2!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS, STM & YSO merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS, STM & YSO!! Contact us on... instagram.com/smalltownmurder facebook.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com
Episode 1603: Golden Girls
Federico analiza la nueva encuesta del CIS de Tezanos, pagado por todos los españoles, donde aumenta aún más la ventaja del PSOE sobre el PP.
In this episode of Practical Cybersecurity, host Jen Stone talks with Curt Dukes, EVP and GM of Security Best Practices at the Center for Internet Security (CIS). Drawing on his 30-year career at the NSA, Dukes breaks down how small and medium businesses (SMBs) can implement "good enough" security without unlimited resources. The conversation focuses on Implementation Group 1 (IG1)—a prioritized set of safeguards that provide essential "cyber hygiene". Dukes introduces free resources like the CSAT (Controls Self-Assessment Tool) and CIS Workbench to help leaders move past the intimidation of technical jargon and establish a "standard of reasonableness" for their organization's defense.CIS ResourcesCIS (Center for Internet Security): The nonprofit organization that creates the global standards discussed in this episode.NSA (National Security Agency): The U.S. intelligence agency where Curt Dukes led defensive security efforts for 30+ years.IG1 (Implementation Group 1): The essential "Cyber Hygiene" tier of the CIS Controls designed for small businesses.CSAT (Controls Self-Assessment Tool): A free web-based application to track and measure your security progress.CIS Workbench: A collaborative platform to ask technical questions and get help from the security community.CIS RAM (Risk Assessment Method): A free methodology to identify security gaps and prioritize investments based on risk.CIS Benchmarks: Free, consensus-based configuration recommendations for OS and network devices.MS-ISAC (Multi-State Information Sharing and Analysis Center): The division of CIS providing threat intelligence for state and local governments.EI-ISAC (Elections Infrastructure ISAC): A dedicated team at CIS focused on securing election-related systems.The Community Defense Model (CDM): A data-driven report proving the effectiveness of the Controls against top cyber attacks.The Cost of Cyber Defense: A breakdown of the financial investment needed for various security models.Request a Quote for a PCI Audit ► https://www.securitymetrics.com/pci-audit Request a Quote for a Penetration Test ► https://www.securitymetrics.com/penetration-testing Get the Guide to PCI DSS compliance ► https://www.securitymetrics.com/lp/pci/pci-guide Get FREE security and compliance training ► https://academy.securitymetrics.com/ Get in touch with SecurityMetrics' Sales Team ► https://www.securitymetrics.com/contact/lets-get-you-to-the-right-place
La política, una actividad multidisciplinar, integra el relato, el marketing y las matemáticas, esenciales para interpretar las encuestas. Marta San Miguel expresa escepticismo ante sondeos como los del CIS y observa una "vuelta a los orígenes" en diversos ámbitos
Episode 1602: Old Black Man
Este lunes 16 de febrero, Carlos Alsina nos trae las historias para empezar la mañana: De la publicación de los resultados de la encuesta del CIS a las alertas por desbordamiento de varios ríos.
In episode 174 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Tony Sager sit down with Kyle Leonard, Cyber Threat Intelligence Analyst at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®), and Randy Rose, VP of Security Operations & Intelligence at CIS. Together, they continue their discussion of 2026 cybersecurity predictions from seven CIS experts, as shared on the CIS website.Here are some highlights from our episode:02:00. How cross-platform campaigns are becoming the norm03:09. Threat actors' use of generative artificial intelligence (GenAI) to expand their attacks and gain efficiencies05:08. The blurring line of what separates today's script kiddies from nation-state threat actors07:47. Fully autonomous malware: in the realm of possibility but not here yet13:19. How specialization in the criminal ecosystem requires us to rethink analysis itself16:07. Shrinking dwell time: a product of the democratization of complex tools' availability18:02. The effective use of social engineering to lower threat actors' operational costs19:20. Malware's increasing use of trusted infrastructure to thwart cyber defenses20:25. The use of behavioral analysis to apply bottleneck security mechanisms22:40. Evolving threat actors' tradecraft: pseudo-random subdomains, GenAI models, and SEO poisoning26:39. What trust looks like today: something that's dynamic and negotiated at a moment's notice31:25. Supply chain attackers' pivot to edge device vendors and security appliance makers33:43. The ongoing work of CIS to support state and local governments' cybersecurity effortsResourcesEpisode 169: 2026 Cybersecurity Predictions from CIS — Pt 1The Evolving Role of Generative Artificial Intelligence in the Cyber Threat LandscapeSurge of QakBot Activity Using Malspam, Malicious XLSB FilesActive Lumma Stealer Campaign Impacting U.S. SLTTsEpisode 173: Scammer Jousting as Human Risk ManagementClickFix: An Adaptive Social Engineering TechniqueImpact of Federal Funding Cuts to the Value of MS-ISAC CTIEpisode 157: How a Modern, Mission-Driven CIRT OperatesIf you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.
This week, we look at a hockey player, who was a little too violent & short tempered, even for hockey. He never had a goal, other than playing hockey, and he achieved that by being drafted in the 1st round. But the only potential he ever lived up to was his potential for violence. He attacked opposing players, fans, coaches, trianers, timekeepers, and even the police! This temper leads to obvious arrests, and a big future of crime, ahead of him!! Be terrified of your overinvolved father... until you beat him up, use your hockey stick as just an extension of your hand & hit people with it, and tell everyone that you're on your best behavior, then try to start a riot with Steve "Mental Case" Durbano - Part 1!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS, STM & YSO merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS, STM & YSO!! Contact us on... instagram.com/smalltownmurder facebook.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com
Episode 1600: I Hate Every Body
It's time for my annual trans rep in media report! Let's talk about the good, the bad, and the yikes, starting with every recent movie I saw in 2025! Includes "The Day the World Blew Up," "Kpop Demon Hunters," "National Anthem," "O'Dessa," "Saving Buddy Charles," "We're All Going to the World's Fair," and more! JESSIE EARL YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JessieGender1 Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/jessiegender.bsky.social Identiteaze on Nebula: https://nebula.tv/videos/jessiegender-identiteaze TEXT VERSION https://www.tillystranstuesdays.com/2026/02/10/trans-representation-in-2025-media-part-1-movies/ FURTHER READING (topics discussed with essays available at https://TillysTransTuesdays.com ) Trans Representation in 2022 Media, Trans Representation in 2023 Media parts 1-3, Trans Representation in 2024 Media parts 1-3, Bad Representation: Emilia Perez, Implicit Queerphobia, Cis is Not a Slur (there is no default human), The Trans Allegory of I Saw the TV Glow Special thanks to Daisy and Jane for the use of "Sorry Not Sorry" as our show's theme music. Please stop by and show your support at https://daisyandjane.bandcamp.com and https://soundcloud.com/daisyandjane --Please leave us a rating on Apple Podcasts/iTunes!-- Website: pendantaudio.com Bluesky: @pendantaudio.bsky.social
Episode 1599: It Was All A Dream
This week, we look at an absolutely horrible human being, who competed in a sport that we've never talked about! Rock climbing! He was an idol of other climbers, as he made his own routes up mountains, and published several books about climbing. But under the surface, there was a violent sexual predator. He beat women, then threatened them if they dared report it. He sexually attacked women, and stalked them into hiding. He may have even assaulted dozens more, while climbing. Did he get what he deserved?? Compete in a sport, where getting stoned before participating in it seems standard, turn into a different, violent person, with just a pause, and be the menace of an entire region's women with Charles Barrett!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS, STM & YSO merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS, STM & YSO!! Contact us on... instagram.com/smalltownmurder facebook.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com
Episode 1598: Private Parts
This week, we look at an Autralian football player, who came from hard times, and only made things worse for himself. He was an aggressive player, at a time when it was perfectly acceptable to hurl racial slurs upon a field of play. But none of that holds an answer to why he did the things he did. From a youthful conviction, for a reprehensible crime, to having an ongoing sexual "relationship" with a 14 year old girl, to having enough meth to keep all of Australia hyper, he couldn't have gone more wrong! Be on a football team with your brother, claim your sexual relationship with a 14 year old was "consensual", and never take a bit of responsibility for anything with Jim Krakouer!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS, STM & YSO merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS, STM & YSO!! Contact us on... instagram.com/smalltownmurder facebook.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com
In this episode of Gangland Wire, Gary Jenkins sits down with author Craig McGuire to discuss his gripping book, Empire City Under Siege, a deep dive into three decades of FBI manhunts, mob wars, and organized-crime investigations in New York City. Craig explains how the project grew out of his collaboration with retired FBI agent Anthony John Nelson, whose career spanned the most violent and chaotic years of New York's Mafia history. From Nelson's early days as a radio dispatcher in 1969 to his transition into undercover and frontline investigative work, the book captures the gritty reality of law enforcement during the 1970s and 1980s. We explore how Nelson's career mirrored the evolution of organized crime and law-enforcement tactics, including the rise of undercover stings, inter-agency cooperation, and the increasing role of technology. Craig highlights the close working relationship between Nelson and NYPD detective Kenny McCabe, whose deep knowledge of Mafia families and quiet professionalism led to major breakthroughs against organized crime. He tells how these two investigators wathced and uncovered the Gambino Family Roy DeMeo crew under Paul Castellano and Nino Gaggi. Throughout the conversation, Craig shares vivid, often humorous slice-of-life stories from the book—tense undercover moments, dangerous confrontations, and the emotional toll of living a double life. These anecdotes reveal not only the danger of the job but also the camaraderie and resilience that sustained agents and detectives working in the shadows. The episode closes with a reminder that Empire City Under Siege is as much about honoring unsung law-enforcement professionals as it is about mob history. Craig encourages listeners to support true-crime storytelling that preserves these firsthand accounts before they're lost to time. Hit me up on Venmo for a cup of coffee or a shot and a beer @ganglandwire Click here to “buy me a cup of coffee” Subscribe to the website for weekly notifications about updates and other Mob information. To go to the store or make a donation or rent Ballot Theft: Burglary, Murder, Coverup, click here To rent ‘Brothers against Brothers’ or ‘Gangland Wire,’ the documentaries click here. To purchase one of my books, click here. 0:02 Welcome Back to Gangland Wire 2:14 The Journey to Anthony John Nelson 4:46 The Life and Work of Law Enforcement 15:00 Inside Anthony Nelson’s Early Career 26:49 The Dynamic Duo: Nelson and McCabe 30:16 Tales from the Underworld 35:55 The Tragedy of Everett Hatcher 39:12 The High-Stakes World of Undercover Work 40:56 Closing Thoughts and Inspirations transcript [0:00] Hey, all you wiretappers. Good to be back here in studio of Gangland Wire. I say the same thing every time. I hope it doesn’t bore you too much, but I am back here in the Gangland Wire studio. And I have today an author who interviewed and wrote a book with an FBI agent named Anthony John Nelson, who was one of the premier FBI agents in New York City that was working the mob. And even more interesting about him to me was he formed a partnership with a local copper named Kenny McCabe, who you may know the name. I had read the name before several times as I started researching this and looking at the book, but he was a mob buster supreme and Agent Nelson really formed a dynamic duo. But first, let’s start talking to Craig, your book, Empire City Under Seize, Three Decades of New York FBI Field Office Manhunts, Murders and Mafia Wars. How did you get involved with Anthony John Nelson? [0:55] Hi, Gary. Thanks for having me on your show. Big fan. Appreciate the opportunity. Very interesting and winding path that led me to Anthony’s doorstep. I also previously wrote another book, Carmine and the 13th Avenue Boys, which was about an enforcer in the Colombo family during the Third Colombo War. And I was introduced to Carmine Imbriali through Thomas Dades. Tommy Dades, he’s a famous retired NYPD detective. So after the success of that book, Tommy introduced me to another member of law enforcement. I started to work on a project that sort of fell apart. And one of the sort of consultants, friends that I met with during that was Anthony Nelson. And then one day as that, due to my own fumbling, as that project was falling apart, I had a delightful breakfast with Anthony and his wonderful wife, Sydney, Cindy, one Sunday morning. And Anthony’s pulling out all these clips of all these investigations and all these Jerry Capiche gangland clips. And it was just fascinating. And so I started to realize that there’s something here because I’m also a true crime fan and I remember many of these cases. [2:08] So it took a while to get Anthony to agree to write a book. He’s not one for the spotlight. He’s really your sort of quintessential G-man, modern G-man. It’s also somewhat of a throwback. But he eventually was interested in doing a book if we didn’t just shine the spotlight on him. Gary, you should know the original, the working title of the book was In the Company of Courage. And that’s really the theme that Anthony wanted to bring forth. You’ll notice throughout the book, there are some vignettes and some biographical information about many of the members of law enforcement that I interviewed, but then we also covered and who are no longer with us. It was my privilege to write this book sharing Anthony’s amazing history, 30 years at the FBI and then several years at the Brooklyn District Attorney’s Office as an investigator. And just like one of the themes is just to really shed some light on the valuable work that members of law enforcement, including you, sir. Thank you for your service. And we think too often these days, members of law enforcement are maligned and there’s a negative light cast on them. It’s the most difficult job in the world. And we just want to make sure that we’re shining some light on that valuable work that the thousands of members of men and women in law enforcement do every day protecting us. [3:24] I appreciate that. I’ll tell you what, all the way from the rookie on the street making those domestic violence calls and party armed calls and armed robbery alarms calls that are, there’s nothing there the first five times you go. And then all of a sudden there’s a guy running out with a gun all the way up to the homicide detectives. And even the people that handle the budget, they all paid their dues out on the streets and organized crime investigators, of course, and narcotics. I really appreciate that. It’s a thankless job for the most part. Once in a while, you get a little thanks, but not much. As we used to say, it was fun. I can’t believe they pay us to do this. [4:01] Gary, it’s like you’re repeating some of the lines of Frank Pergola to Al King, just like that. And that’s key, that thankless piece. I remember interviewing Frank Pergola, just famous New York City detective, worked on Son of Sam. He also worked on solving 79 homicides related to the Gambinos and the DeMeo family. And he echoed those same sentiments. While you’re investigating a case, it’s the victims’ families and the victims, their nerves are so fraught. It’s such a stressful situation. And the members of law enforcement bear the brunt of a lot of that frustration. [4:41] And too often, there’s no thank you at the end. And it’s not that they want to thank you. It’s just that they want the sort of closure, not even the recognition, just some sort of realization that they did a great job. And it’s unfortunate that they don’t, that doesn’t happen as often as it should. I appreciate it. Let’s talk about Anthony Nelson. He sounds like a very interesting character. Talk a little bit about what you learned from him about his early career. And I want to tell you something, that recalcitrance, I believe that’s the word, $25 word if I’ve ever heard one. His refusal to really make himself a hero or the center of attention. That’s pretty common among cops and FBI agents. I’ve noticed we’ve got, I’ve got a good friend here in Kansas City, wrote a book about the mafia in Kansas City called Mopsers in Our Mist, but he refused to put himself into the book. He had a publishing company that wanted him to do it and was going to pay him to do it, but it had to have him as a hero. He said, we have to have a hero in this book. He says, I won’t do it. So that Mr. Nelson, Agent Nelson, that’s not that uncommon. So tell us a little more about some of his early cases. [5:49] Anthony Nelson, interestingly enough, his career trajectory and really his life tracks with the latter half of the last century. And a lot of the technological evolution, the rise of organized crime post-prohibition, these themes of urbanization, radicalization that came out from the starting in the middle of the century. But really heating up as a young Anthony Nelson joins the FBI in 1969, really mostly in administrative roles, radio dispatcher first, eventually he’s an electronics technician. So I’m sure, Gary, you can reflect on, and some of this will resonate with you, just how archaic some of the technology was. Oh my God, yeah. Yeah. Back then, we have some fantastic anecdotes and stories in the book, but just also like, for example, when you’re responding to a hostage crisis and you don’t have a cell phone, you don’t have minimal communications and talking about, you better make sure you have a pocket full of dimes and knocking on a neighbor’s door because time is of the essence and to establish contact. So just some of this great, really interesting material there. Eventually, Anthony was sworn in as an agent in 1976, and he entered the FBI Academy at Quantico, graduated in 77. [7:13] And interestingly enough, Anthony reflects like some of his fellow graduates, perhaps were not as keen on going to New York, one of the larger field offices, perhaps wanting to cut their teeth at a smaller office, but he obviously wanted to go home. So he was, and he jumped right into the fray, really assigned to hijacking. And he was an undercover operative in Red Hook during the 1970s, like the really gritty. And from the stories and from the various folks I interviewed, this really was gritty New York back then with the economy failing, crime on the rise. [7:48] Gary, you look, I heard an interesting stat last week where you had, there was almost a record setting that New York City had not reported a homicide for a record 12 consecutive days. And that had not happened in decades. So when Anthony joined the FBI, they were recording five homicides in New York City. And also during the 70s, you also had this, when you talk about radicalization, with 3,000 bombings nationwide, corruption was rampant. You had credit card fraud was just kicking off. You had widespread bread or auto theft and hijacking. Again, at the street level, Anthony was the front for a Gambino-affiliated warehouse where he had first right of refusal, where some of the hijackers would bring in the loads. And he was doing this on an undercover basis. So he jumped right in. They set him up in a warehouse and he was buying like a sting, what we called a sting operation. He was buying stolen property. They thought he was a fence. [8:50] Yeah, they started doing that in the 70s. They hadn’t really done, nobody had done that before in the 70s. ATF kind of started sting operates throughout the United States. We had one here, but they started doing that. And that was a new thing that these guys hadn’t seen before. So interesting. He was that big, blurly guy up front said, hey, yeah, bring that stuff on. Exactly. If you look on the cover, there are three images on the cover, and one of them is following one of the busts afterwards where they tracked down the hijacked goods. I believe it was in New Jersey. So you could get the sense of the volume. Now, think about it like this. So he’s in Red Hook in the mid-70s. This was actually where he was born. So when Anthony was born in 49, and if you think about Red Hook in the early 50s, this was just a decade removed from Al Capone as a leg-breaking bouncer along the saloons on the waterfront. And this was on the waterfront, Red Hook eventually moved to Park Slope. [9:49] And this was where Crazy Joe Gallo was prompted, started a mob war. And this was when any anthony is coming of age back then and most of his friends is gravitating so to these gangster types in the neighborhood these wise guys but this was a time pre-9-1-1 emergency response system so the only way to report or get help was to call the switchboard call the hospital directly call the fire department directly so you had the rise of the b cop where it wasn’t just the police they were integral part of the community and there’s this really provocative story Anthony tells the first time he saw a death up close and personal, an acquaintance of his had an overdose. And the beat cops really did a sincere effort to try to save him. And this really resonated with the young Anthony and he gravitated towards law enforcement. And then a little bit, a while later as a teenager, they’re having these promotional videos, these promotional sort of documentary style shows on television. And Anthony sees it, and he’s enamored by it, especially when they say this is the hardest job in America. So he’s challenged, and he’s a go-getter. So he writes a letter to J. Edgar Hoover, and Hoover writes him back. [11:03] So it’s a signed letter, and now Anthony laughs about it. He says it was probably a form letter with a rubber stamp, but it really had an amazing impact. And this is at the time when, you know, in the 50s, you really had J. Edgar really embrace the media. And he actually consulted on the other famous, the FBI television show, several movies, the rise of the G-Man archetype. So Anthony was fully on board. [11:28] Interesting. Of course, J. Edgar Hoover wanted to make sure the FBI looked good. Yes, exactly. Which he did. And they were good. They had a really high standards to get in. They had to be a lawyer or accountant or some extra educated kind of a deal. And so they always think, though, that they took these guys who had never been even a street policeman of any kind and they throw them right into the DPN many times. But that’s the way it was. They did have that higher level of recruit because of that. So, Anthony, was he a lawyer or accountant when he came in? Did he get in after they relaxed that? Oh, that’s spot on. I’m glad you brought that up. So now here’s a challenge. So Anthony needs that equalizer, correct? So if you’re a CPA, obviously a former member of the military, if you’re a successful detective or a local police force, one of these type of extra credentials. [12:20] Anthony’s specialty was technology. Now, when you think of technology… Not the ubiquitous nature of technology nowadays, where you have this massive processing power in your phone, and you don’t really have to be a technologist to be able to use the power of it. This is back in the 1960s. But he always had an affinity for technology. And he was able to, when he, one of the other requirements was as he had to hit the minimum age requirement, he had to work for a certain amount of time, he was able to get a job at the FBI. So he was an electronics technician before he became an agent. [12:59] And he had all of the, and back then this was, it was groundbreaking, the level of technology. And he has some funny story, odd, like man on the street stories about, I’m sure you remember Radio Shack when there was a Radio Shack on every other corner, ham radio enthusiasts. And it was cat and mouse. It was, they had the members of organized crime had the police scanners. And they were able to, if they had the right scanner, they had the right frequency. They were able to pick on the bugs planted really close to them. And he tells some really funny stories about one time there was a member of organized crime. They’re staking out, I believe it was the cotillion on 18th Avenue. And then I believe he’s sitting outside with Kenny McCabe. And then one of this member of organized crime, he’s waving a scanner inside and he’s taunting them saying, look, I know what you’re doing. And so it was that granularity of cat and mouse. [13:55] Rudimentary kind of stuff. Yeah. We had a guy that was wearing what we called a kelk kit. It was a wire and he was in this joint and they had the scanner and so but they had to scan her next door at this club And all of a sudden, a bunch of guys came running and there’s somebody in here wearing a wire. And my friend’s guy, the guy I worked with, Bobby, he’s going, oh, shit. And so he just fades into the background. And everybody except one guy had a suit on. Nobody had a suit on except this one guy. So they focused on this one guy that had a suit on and went after him and started trying to pat him down and everything. Bobby just slipped out the front door. So amazing. I mean, you know, Anthony has a bunch of those slice of life stories. I also interviewed a translator from the FBI to get a sort of a different perspective. [14:42] It’s different. Like the agents a little bit more, they’re tougher. They’re a tougher breed. They go through the training. Some of the administrative professionals, like the translators. So this one translator, it’s a pretty harrowing experience because remember the such the insular nature of the neighborhoods and how everyone is always [14:59] looking for someone out of place. So she actually got a real estate license and poses a realtor be able to rent apartments and then she spoke multiple dialects and then just to have to listen in and to decipher not only the code but also the dialects and put it together when you have agents on the line because remember you have an undercover agent if they get discovered more often than not the members of organized crime are going to think they’re members of another crew so you’re dead either they’re an informant if they think they’re an informant you’re dead if they think you’re an agent yeah just turn away from you say okay we don’t deal with this guy anymore if you think you’re informant or somebody another crew or something trying to worm their way in then yeah you’re dead exactly so interviewing maria for this you get that sense from someone who’s not in like not an agent to get true how truly harrowing and dangerous this type of activity was and how emboldened organized crime was until really the late 90s. And back then, it truly was death defying. [16:02] Oh, yeah, it was. They had so many things wired in the court system and in politically in the late 70s and early 80s and all these big cities. No big city was immune from that kind of thing. So they had all kinds of sources. They even had some clerks in the FBI and they definitely had all the court. The courthouses were just wired. And I don’t mean wired, but they had people in places and all those things. So it was death to find that you got into these working undercover. Ever. Hey, you want to laugh? I don’t want to give away all the stories, but there was a great story. I remember Anthony saying, they set up a surveillance post in an apartment and they brought in all the equipment while they were, then they got the court orders and the surveillance post actually got ripped off twice. So while they try, like after hours, someone’s going, yeah, ripping off all the FBI equipment. So you have this extra level of, so that gives you like, It really was Wild West then. Really? [17:00] So now he gets into organized crime pretty quick, into that squad and working organized crime pretty quick. I imagine they put him in undercover like that because of his accent, his ability to fit in the neighborhood. I would think he would have a little bit of trouble maybe running into somebody that remembered him from the old days. Did he have any problem with that? I spot on, Gary. I tell you, this was he. So he’s operating in Red Hook and actually throughout the next several years, he’s periodically flying down to Florida as a front for New York orchestrated drug deals. So he’s going down to Florida to negotiate multi-kilo drug deals on behalf of organized crime. But at the same time, he’s an agent. He eventually rose to be supervisory special agent. He’s managing multiple squads. So there did come an inflection point where it became too dangerous for him to continue to operate as an undercover while conducting other types of investigations. [18:02] Interestingly enough they opened up a resident agency office the ras are in the major field offices in the fbi they have these they’re called ras i’m sure you’re familiar these like mini offices with the office and they’ll focus on certain areas of crime more geographically based so they opened up the brooklyn queens ra and that really focuses heavily on organized crime but also hijacking because you had the, especially with the airport over there and a lot of the concentrations of, especially in South Brooklyn, going into Queens. So he worked there. Also the airport. Also the mass, you have this massive network of VA facilities. You have the forts. So you need these other RA offices. So you have a base of operations to be able to investigate. But Anthony has such a wide extent of case history, everything from airline attacks to art theft heists to kidnappings, manhunts, fugitives. There was Calvin Klein, the famous designer, when his daughter was kidnapped by the babysitter, it did do it. Anthony was investigating that. So it’s just, and while he has this heavy concentration in organized crime. I mentioned that. What’s this deal with? He investigated a robbery, a bank robbery that was a little bit like the dog day afternoon robbery, a standoff. What was that? [19:30] This was actually, it was the dog day afternoon robbery. They based a dog day afternoon on this. Exactly. What you had, and this was before Anthony was when he was still in his administrative role. So he had a communications position. So he was responsible for gathering all the intel and the communications and sharing it with the case, the special agents on site. So what you had was like, he’s with the play by play of this really provocative hostage. It was a bank robbery that quickly turned into a hostage crisis. And then, so throughout this whole, and the way it eventually resolved was the perpetrators insisted on a particular agent. I apologize. It slips my mind, but he’s a real famous agent. So he has to drive them to JFK airport where they’re supposed to have a flight ready to fly them out of the country. And what happens is they secrete a gun into the car and he winds up shooting the bank robbers to death. And there were so many different layers to this bank robbery. It eventually became the movie. And a funny story aside, the movie, while they’re filming the movie, Anthony’s at his friend’s house in downtown Brooklyn. It may have been Park Slope. And they’re calling for extras. His friends run in and say, hey, they’re filming a movie about this bank robbery that happened on Avenue U. You want to be an extra? And he said, nah, no thanks. The real thing was enough for me. [20:55] I’ll tell you what, it wasn’t for a New York City organized crime and New York City crime. Al Pacino wouldn’t have had a career. That’s the truth. [21:05] Now, let’s start. Let’s go back into organized crime. Now, we’ve talked about this detective, Kenny McCabe, who was really well known, was famous. And during the time they worked together and they were working with the Brooklyn District Attorney’s Office. Is that correct? Were both of them working for it? Was he at the FBI and Kenny was with the Brooklyn DA’s office? [21:26] When you think about thematically, in the company of courage, Kenny McCabe was really close. This was a career-long, lifelong, from when they met, relationship, professional relationship that became a deep friendship between two pretty similar members of law enforcement. [21:46] Kenny McCabe had a long career in the NYPD as organized crime investigator before he joined the Southern District Attorney’s Office as an investigator. So the way they first crossed paths was while Anthony was working a hijacking investigation. So he gets a tip from one of his CIs that there’s some hijacked stolen goods are in a vehicle parked in a certain location. So he goes to stake it out. Like they don’t want to seize the goods. They want to find out, they want to uncover who the hijackers are and investigate the conspiracy. So then while he’s there, he sees a sort of a familiar face staking it out as well. Then he goes to the, he goes to the NYA, a detective Nev Nevins later. And he asks about this guy. And so this detective introduces him to Kenny McCabe and right away strike up with his interesting chemistry. And they’re like, you know what? Let’s jointly investigate this. So they wind up foiling the hijacking. But what starts is like this amazing friendship. And I’ll tell you, the interesting thing about Kenny McCabe is almost universally, he’s held in the highest regard as perhaps law enforcement’s greatest weapon in dismantling organized crime in the latter half of the 20th century. For example, I interviewed George Terra, famous undercover detective who eventually went to the Brooklyn District Attorney’s Office. [23:12] And he had a great way. I hope I don’t mangle. Kenny knew all the wise guys and they all knew Kenny. And when I say he knew all the wise guys, he knew their shoe sizes. He knew who they partnered with on bank jobs years ago. So he knew who their siblings were, who their cousins were, who they were married to, who their girlfriends were, what clubs they frequented. For example, during the fatical hearings, where they would do sentencing, often the defense attorneys would want the prosecutors to reveal who their CIs are for due process, for a sense of fairness. And they refused to do that, obviously, for safety reasons, and they want to compromise ongoing investigations. So in dozens, perhaps so many of these cases, they were bringing Kenny McCabe. He was known as the unofficial photographer of organized crime. [24:07] For example, I think it was 2003, he was the first one who revealed a new edict that new initiates into Cosa Nostra had to have both a mother and a father who were Italian. Oh, yeah. I remember that. Yeah. He was also, he revealed that when the Bonanno family renamed itself as Messino, he was the one who revealed that. And then when Messino went to prison for murder, his successor, Vinnie Bassiano, Vinnie gorgeous. When he was on trial, that trial was postponed because so many of law enforcement leaders had to attend Kenny McCabe’s funeral, unfortunately, when he passed. So this is such a fascinating thing. Now, why you don’t hear more about Kenny McCabe, and I interviewed his son, Kenny McCabe Jr. Duke, is like Kenny McCabe like really issued the media spotlight. He would not, he wasn’t interested in grabbing the microphone. So you have almost no media on Kenny McCabe. If you do a Google search for him, I believe the only thing I ever found was a picture in his uniform as an early career police officer. [25:19] So it’s really hard to even do a documentary style treatment without having any media because B-roll is just going to get you so far. So really what Duke has been doing over the last two decades or more is really consolidating all of these as much material as he can. And I think eventually when he does put out a book, this thing’s going to explode. It’s going to be like true Hollywood treatment. But now going back to the mid-70s, so these two guys hook up. You have the FBI agent and you have the police detective. [25:49] Craig, what you always hear is that the FBI is suspicious and doesn’t trust local authorities. And local policemen hate the FBI because they always grab all the glory and take everything, run with it. And they’re left out. And I didn’t have that experience myself. They’ve got the case. They’ve got the laws. We don’t locally, county and statewide, you don’t have the proper laws to investigate organized crime. Yes, sir. But the feds do. So that’s how it works. This really blows that myth up that the local police and the FBI never worked together and hated each other. [26:25] I’m so glad you brought that up because this was very important to Anthony. He has so many lifelong friends in the NYPD, and I’ve interviewed several of them. And just this sincerity comes across, the camaraderie. In any walk of life, in any profession, you’re always going to have rivalries and conflict, whether healthy conflict or negative conflict. [26:46] Even more, you’re going to find that in law enforcement because the stakes are so high. But it’s a disservice to… And what we want to do is sort of dispel the myth that there was no cooperation. Why there were very well-publicized conflicts between agencies prosecuting certain cases. This was the time where technology was really enabling collaboration. Remember, and you had a time, if you had to investigate a serial crime, you had to go from jurisdiction to jurisdiction and you had to interview investigators. You had to comb through written records to piece this together. So it really was not conducive for collaboration. [27:22] So what you saw was the rise of, and then you had these investigative tools and these legal tools like RICO, while they were still trying to figure out and to build. So now you had the litigious tools where you could build conspiracies and prosecute them. So this sort of helped ferment this sort of collaborative interagency, which eventually led to these joint task force that were very successful. What I really love is this microcosm of Anthony Nelson and Kenny McCain. Now, Anthony Nelson was issued a Plymouth Grand Fury with the full police interceptor kit. If you’re familiar with that make and model, no automobile ever created screams cop-mobile like the Grand Fury. And so what you had was after hours, Anthony and Kenny would join up and they would go prowling the underworld with the Grand Fury on purpose. They wanted to be as conspicuous as possible. to the point where they would park in bus stops across the street from these social clubs. And when I say social clubs, they were… [28:29] Everywhere. There were dozens of them all over Brooklyn and Queens. And these are cafe, social clubs, bars, restaurants with heavy OC presence, blatantly conducting their business. So you have these two, Anthony’s always driving. Kenny’s always riding shotgun with his camera. I assume it was some sort of 35 millimeter hanging out the side, taking down names, license plates. Just a great story. You had Paul Castellano in front of Veterans and Friends on 86th Street when he had Dominic Montiglio start that social club so he could have more of a presence in Brooklyn on the street so that he actually crosses the street and he goes to Kenny and Anthony. And he’s saying, guys, you don’t have to sit out here. You could come down to Ponte Vecchio in Bay Ridge. I have a table there anytime you want to talk to me. So it’s that level of bravado. But pretty soon it changed. Once more of this intel started to build these real meaningful cases, Castellana put an edict, don’t talk to these two, don’t be photographed. What came out of that was an amazing partnership where they gathered so much intelligence and Anthony is very. [29:46] Quick to have me point out, give more credit to the investigators, to the agents, to the detectives. They gathered a lot of the intelligence to help with these investigations, but you had so many frontline folks that are doing a lot of the legwork, that are doing the investigations, making the arrests, that are crawling under the hoods. So it’s pretty inspiring. But then you also had some really good, and I don’t want to share all the stories [30:12] in the book. There’s a great story of Kenny and Anthony. They go into Rosal’s restaurant because they see this. [30:21] There may have been a warrant out on this member of law enforcement. So they had cause. So they go in and there’s actually some sort of family event going on. And they’re playing the theme song of The Godfather. As they go in and then they have to go into the back room to get this member of organized crime who’s hiding. So it’s these kind of really slice of life kind of stories that just jump out, jump out of the book. Really? I see, as I mentioned, they had some kind of a run-in with Roy DeMeo at the Gemini. You remember that story? Can you tell that one? Yeah, there’s, so Kenny and Anthony, throughout the hijacking investigations. [30:59] Were, they were among the first to really learn of this mysterious Roy. And his rise. And then also Nino. Remember Nino Gadgi was the Gambino Capo who took over Castellano’s crew, Brooklyn crew, when he was elevated. And then Roy DeMeo was really this larger than life maniac serial killer who formed the Gemini crew, which was a gang of murderers really on the Gemini Lounge in Flatlands, which is really close to Anthony’s house. And Kenny’s not too far. Didn’t they have a big stolen car operation also? Did they get into that at all? Yes. Stolen cars, chop shops. Remember, this is when you had the introduction of the tag job, where it was relatively easy to take the vehicle identification numbers off a junked auto and then just replace them with the stolen auto, and then you’re automatically making that legitimate. And then, so they’re doing this wholesale operation where they’re actually got to the point where they’re shipping hundreds, if not thousands of these tag jobs overseas. So it was at scale, a massive operation. Roy DeMay was a major earner. He was such an unbalanced, very savvy business for the underworld, business professional, but he was also a homicidal maniac. [32:22] Some say they could be upwards of a hundred to 200 crimes. Frank Pergola alone investigated and So 79 of these crimes associated with this crew. And it got to the point where, and he had a heavy sideline in drugs, which was punishable by death in the Gambino family, especially under Castellano. So then what you had was all these investigations and all this intelligence that, and then with this collaboration between the FBI and NYPD. Oh, wow. It is quite a crew. I’m just looking back over here at some of the other things in there in that crew in that. You had one instance where there was a sentencing hearing and of a drug dealer, I believe, a member of organized crime. And Kenny McCabe is offering testimony to make sure that the proper sentencing is given because a lot of times these guys are deceptive. [33:16] And he mentions DeMeo’s name. So DeMeo in a panic. So then maybe a couple of nights later, they’re parked in front of veterans and friends. And DeMeo comes racing across 86th Street. Now, 86th Street is like a four-lane thoroughfare. It’s almost like, oh, I grew up in the air a few blocks away. So he’s running through traffic. And then he’s weaving in and out. And he’s screaming at Kenny McCabe, what are you trying to kill me? Putting my name into a drug case? They’re going to kill me. And so it’s that kind of intimate exchanges that they have with, with these key members of organized crime of the era. [33:52] Wow. That’s, that’s crazy. I see that they worked to murder that DEA agent, Everett Hatcher, that was a low level mob associate that got involved in that. And then supposedly the mob put out the word, but you gotta, we gotta give this guy up. But you remember that story? Now, this is another instance where I remember this case. And I remember afterwards when they killed Gus Faraci. So what you had was, again, and this is very upsetting because you had DEA agent Everett Hatchard, who is a friend of Anthony’s. To the point where just prior to his assassination, they were attending a social event together with their children. And he would also, they would run into each other from time to time. They developed a really beyond like camaraderie, like real friendship. So then, so Hatcher has, there’s an undercover sting. So there’s Gus Faraci, who’s, I believe he was associated with the Lucchese’s, with Chile. [34:55] So he gets set up on the West Shore. And so he’s told to go to the West Shore Expressway. Now, if you’ve ever been on that end of Staten Island, that whips out heading towards the outer bridge. This really is the end of the earth. This is where you have those large industrial like water and oil tankers and there’s not really good lighting and all this. It’s just like a real gritty. So he loses his surveillance tail and they eventually, he’s gunned down while in his vehicle. So then Anthony gets the call to respond on site to investigate the murder. He doesn’t know exactly who it is until he opens up the door and he sees it’s his friend. And this is the first assassination of a DEA agent. It was just such a provocative case. And the aftermath of that was, again, like Gus Faraci, who was, he was a murderer. He was a drug dealer, but he did not know. He set him up. He thought he was a member of organized crime. [35:53] He was just another drug dealer. He did not realize he was a DEA agent. And then all hell broke loose. And you had just the all five families until they eventually produced Gus Faraci, set him up, and then he was gunned down in Brooklyn. [36:06] Case closed, huh? Exactly. Yeah. And as we were saying before, I don’t remember it was before I started recording or after that. When you’re working undercover, that’s the worst thing is they think that you’re an informant or a member of another crew and you’re liable to get killed. At one say, I had a sergeant one time. He said, if you get under suspicion when you’re like hanging out in some of these bars and stuff, just show them you’re the cops. Just get your badge out right away because everything just, all right, they just walk away then. It’s a immensely dangerous thing to maintain your cover. Yes, sir. Anthony was always good at that because tall gentleman has the right sort of Italian-American complexion. He’s passable at Italian. So with some of these folks, especially from Italy that come over, he could carry a conversation. He’s not fluent. [36:56] And he just walks in and talks in. It’s a different… George Terror was a fantastic undercover detective. And you talk to some of these undercovers, it’s like you have to be… There’s sort of this misperception that the organized crime members are like these thugs and flunkies. These are very intelligent, super suspicious, addled individuals that are able to pick up on signals really easy because they live on the edge. So you really can’t fake it, the slightest thing. And again, they’ll think that their first inclination is not that you’re a member of law enforcement. Their first inclination is that you’re a member of a rival crew that’s looking to kill me looks at looking to rip me off so i’m going to kill you first it’s just it’s just a wild and imagine that’s your day job oh man i know they could just and i’ve picked this up on people there’s just a look when you’re lying there’s just a look that just before you catch it quick but there’s a look of panic that then you get it back these guys can pick up that kind of stuff just so quickly any kind of a different body language they’re so good with that. [38:02] And he’s also, he has to be able to say just enough to establish his connection and credibility without saying too much that’s going to trip him up. And that’s like being able to walk that line. He tells, again, I hate giving away all these stories because I want readers to buy the book, but he has this fantastic story when he’s on an undercover buy and he’s, I don’t know if it’s Florida, if it’s Miami or it’s Fort Lauderdale and he has to go into a whole, like the drugs are in one location and he’s in that with the drug deals in one location and he’s in this location and, but he knows the money’s not going to come. [38:42] So he has to walk into this hotel room with all these cartel drug guys who are off balance, knowing that he’s got to figure out, how do I get out of this room without getting killed? And once I walk out, will the timing be right that I could drop to the floor right when the responding FBI agents, again, these are FBI agents from a different [39:08] field office that he perhaps doesn’t have intimate working. knowledge of. I got to trust that these guys got my back and they’re not distracted. So I can’t even imagine having to live with that stress. No, I can’t either. All right. I’ll tell you what, the book, guys, is Empire City Under Siege, the three decades of New York FBI field office man hunts, murders, and mafia wars by Craig McGuire with former retired FBI agent Anthony John Nelson. I pulled as many stories as I could out of the book from him. You’re going to have to get the book to get to the rest of. And believe me, I’m looking at my notes here and the stuff they sent me. And there are a ton of great stories in there, guys. You want to get this book. [39:50] I also want to say there’s something special going on at Wild Blue Press. My publisher specializes in true crime. And it’s just, they’re so nurturing and supportive of writers. Just fantastic facilities and promotions. And they just help us get it right. That’s the most important thing, Anthony, accuracy. So if there’s anything wrong in the book, that’s totally on me. It’s really hard to put one of these together, especially decades removed. But then I’m just thankful for the support of nature of Wild Blue and Anthony and all the remarkable members of law enforcement like yourself, sir. Thank you for your service. And Anthony, and I’m just so inspired. I just have to say, they’re like a different breed. And you folks don’t realize how exciting. Because there are so many stories like Anthony would come up with and he would say, do you think readers would be interested in this story? And I fall out of my chair like, oh my God, this could be a whole chapter. So it was as a true crime fan myself of this material, it’s just, it was a wild ride and I enjoyed it. [40:56] Great. Thanks a lot for coming on the show, Craig. Thanks, Gary. You’re the best.
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