Worst Church Ever

Chris and Nathan wonder if there's more to the Jacob and Esau story that we're usually taught. Is it possible that Isaac knew what was happening all along? Bonus content includes some sincere appreciation for Masters of the Universe and Brad Meltzer! Join the conversation, and don't forget to like and subscribe! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

Traditions, resolutions, and predictions for the New Year. Plus, the gut-punch realization that making a "resolution" actually means committing to resolving something that needs our attention. Be kind to yourself this year...what else will you work to resolve in your relationships, trauma, or other areas? --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

Chris and Nathan talk the origins of Christmas traditions and what (if anything) is at stake if some of those origins are...dun dun dun! Pagan?!? Throw another log on the fire and enjoy our Christmas episode! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

Chris and Nathan talk UAP, cycles of trauma, and Spotify Wrapped! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

Continuing our look at Genesis, and it turns out there's far more here than folk-tales and not-science.  Actually, there is science, just not the kind the fundamentalist next store thinks they have in mind.  It's much more delightfully human (and holy) than all of that. Today: Jacob steals(?) the blessing! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

Stop digging your father's wells. Stop fighting over toxic holes in the ground. Do something new and find all the room you need for blessing and growth. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

Welcome back to Worst Church Ever, that friend you keep trying to connect with in the midst of all of this adulting. Today, Chris welcomes life-long friend Nathan for a discussion about being over-busy, making time for what matters, and raising kids. We also talk about famous sets of siblings from Noel and Liam to Raph, Donnie, Mikey, and Leo to to our old friends Isaac and Ismael. Special thanks to Nathan for the new music and for joining Chris in this new weekly format. Keep an eye of out for next Monday's show, our first stab at video, and for continuing deep dives into the repeated cycles of trauma and triumph in Christianity's sacred stories. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

What was Jesus getting at with the repeated imagery of the mustard seed? --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

God's nature is both miraculous and necessary. Yahweh is an outlier among his capricious peers... --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

Psalm 145:1-9 --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

Mark 12:20-25, a reading for September 20, 2023. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

An unplugged look at one of the RCL readings for September 19, 2023. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

Lo fi, high view of Psalm 77 for September 18/19, 2023 --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

Season 2 is here! In this episode: Isaac mourns the death of his mother...by consummating his marriage to Rebekah in his mother's tent. Isaac builds a life...in the same place Sarah banished Hagar and Ishmael. Isaac tries to rewrite the story of lost birthrights and unwanted sons...by picking a favorite son. These and more motifs repeat because trauma repeats. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

What should we make of the mainstreaming of the UAP phenomenon? Insights from Anton Zellinger, quantum physics, and St. Paul. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

Picture it. Youth group. 1997. What the hell are these people talking about? Part look back at how "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" crept into my (mostly) Mainline church, part look back at that weird AF subculture. Trigger warnings: purity culture, sexual assault. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

We wanted to call this episode "Sarah Dies/Abraham's Thighs," or "More Weird Shit with Abraham" but those aren't the most important parts of the story. What Isaac does after the death of his mother is one of our first "Holy Shit" (in a good way?) moments thus far. We've read this text many times, but it still caught us completely off guard. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

There's no way around it: the Binding of Isaac is an inescapably terrible story. Let's get to it. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

"A few chapters back, Sarah tells Abraham to get rid of Hagar, and Abraham says “she's your slave. She's your issue. Do whatever you want.” In other words, you've already trafficked this Egyptian to me, I've already raped her, I don't give a shit.” But now, oh, but now. But now there is a son involved, and so now, this jackass seems to care..." (but not that much...) "You'd think maybe Father Abraham would at the very least clue Hagar in to the fact that the boy will not only be spared, but greatly blessed. Even if he didn't give a shit about Hagar's trauma (this is her second banishment, after all), he'd at the very least want to reassure her and the boy that every little thing is gonna be alright. Well, you can invent those conversations if you want to, but they're not in the text..." --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

What's so conservative about conservative Christianity? It turns out not very much. Southern Baptist convention meets this week in Nashville to address systemic issues...or not. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

The Incarnation of God as the willful cosmic wave-collapse response to our penchant for creating (not just choosing) evil. Schrodinger (sans cat), my snoring dogs, the Upanishads, Jesus, warm milk, and melatonin. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

As we move through Genesis 19, familiar patterns are starting to emerge. We see the patriarchs, matriarchs, and their families recreating trauma in destructive cycles. As noted in the last episode, this tracks with what modern neuroscience knows about the ways in which "the body keeps the score." Trigger warnings: incest, rape. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

It's under four minutes long. You could do a lot worse. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

In this extended episode, we follow the Genesis narrative(s) into Chapter 19, and we take some journeys to later Christian scripture. This might be a good episode for your next 40-minute commute. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

"...You can believe in that God if you want to, but keep him (always him) far away from me..." --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

How we wish the story of the Rich Young Ruler (Mark 10) would have gone. (And lo but for the grace of God go we..) --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

Who gets to choose who puts (which) skin in the game, and why does it matter? --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

The story of Sarah and Hagar through the lens of reproduced trauma and family (?) systems. Trigger warning: sexual assault, trafficking, and rape. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

We're repainting a room and the fumes are getting to us. This episode looks at the covenant ritual in Genesis 15, and was interrupted by the church dog, its own outro, and just a bit of Abraham fatigue. We humbly share it anyway. Enjoy! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

We consider the competing narrative claims of "indigenous" Judeans and repatriating exiles in the formation of the Genesis text; we also look at Karen Gonzalez's 2019 piece on Sarah as a human trafficking survivor. TW: Human Trafficking. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

Kevin Max, Carl Sandburg, and Exvangelicals, oh my! Also, the Oxford Comma. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

Published in 1916, this poem is at once a meditation on Jesus and Sandburg's "statement of faith" against sham religion. Aimed at prosperity-preaching fundamentalists in general (and Billy Sunday specifically), Sandburg contrasts the wealth and "work" of these hucksters against the extreme poverty of their target audience and the true "free as air and sunlight" message of Christ. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

In today's episode, we look at the first call of Abram/Abraham and begin to consider what the content of these stories says about the the circumstances of their composition, how that relates to competing (or complimentary?) agendas and needs, the codification of the Torah, and more. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

"My fundamentalist neighbor needs me to believe a tradition about what the Bible is before I get to meet Jesus. I just don't think that's how Jesus works..." --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

"Hello and Welcome to Worst Church Ever, the show that rolls its sleeves up to play in the mud with Yahweh, even though our fundamentalist neighbor thinks we ought to keep the Holy action at a distance and call God Elohim..." --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

"Everyone born downstream of Los Alamos, Nagasaki and Hiroshima are children of the atom, that's not just some cool turn of phrase Stan Lee used to launch the X-Men. Everyone born downstream of Francis Bacon, Thomas Hobbes, are children of that same revolution. We've got all the good things Neil Young talks about on Free World, and I'd add things like pasteurized milk, modern medicine, and yes, friends, vaccinations..." --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

"I said listen, brother, you're a smart guy, you know this so-called liberal view of scripture isn't new, I didn't make it up, it's the balance of the Christian tradition..." "The cross of Jesus Christ upends the story of empire, it lifts up the true story that our highest calling is not our status or success in the eyes of Jerusalem or Rome or Madison Avenue, but in solidarity with and support of people on the margins..." --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support

"I know all the moves," I said. "I grew up in that circus..." --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worstchurchever/support