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The Browns secured a 13-6 victory over the rival Steelers on Sunday, but did the win come at a cost? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe break down the immediate aftermath. The win dropped the Browns' draft position from a potential top-three pick to sixth overall, sparking a conversation about the team's future at quarterback. They debate whether fans should be upset about the draft implications or celebrate a culture-building win against a division foe. This naturally leads to an in-depth evaluation of rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders. Has he shown enough progress to be considered the long-term answer? They explore various paths forward. They also discuss the ineffectiveness of tanking in the NFL and why players and coaches are always focused on winning the game in front of them. On the defensive side of the ball, they focus on Myles Garrett's pursuit of the sack record. While Garrett didn't get a sack, they get into how Pittsburgh's entire game plan was dedicated to stopping him and how his mere presence was a game-wrecking force that ultimately contributed to the Browns' victory. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get you ready for the Browns' home finale against the Steelers. They start with the future of the quarterback position. With just two games left, can Shedeur Sanders prove he's the guy for 2026 and convince the Browns not to use a top draft pick on a QB? They also debate if these final games, particularly a win against a rival, could be enough to save Kevin Stefanski's job. They talk Myles Garrett's pursuit of the single-season sack record. In a twist of fate, he could potentially break the record against Mason Rudolph, reigniting the drama from their infamous helmet-hitting incident in 2019, if the Steelers decide rest their starters. They would clinch the AFC North if the Ravens lose on Saturday night. Lance Reisland joins the show for his scouting report, breaking down the Steelers' offense under Aaron Rodgers, the impact of DK Metcalf's suspension and the challenges posed by Pittsburgh's formidable defensive front. Lastly, all four make their picks for Sunday's matchup in Cleveland. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe kick things off with the news that Deshaun Watson will officially finish the season on the PUP list, ending any slim chance of a return this year. They dive deep into what this means for the Browns' complex quarterback situation heading into the offseason. With Watson still on the roster with a massive contract, what is his role moving forward? Could he be a bridge quarterback for a top draft pick, or will he serve as a backup and mentor? The conversation then shifts to Shedeur Sanders. Will he be the long-term answer after his seven-game audition? Mary Kay and Dan debate whether the Browns can keep Sanders on the roster if they decide to draft another quarterback, considering the media attention that follows him. They also touch on a spicy potential storyline: Myles Garrett's quest for the sack record could culminate against none other than Mason Rudolph. In the second half, Lance Reisland joins the show for his weekly film breakdown of the Browns' game against the Bills. Lance offers his expert opinion on Sanders' performance, where he showed patience but also made critical errors. He also evaluates the struggling offensive line, the defensive issues with gap integrity and tackling. The episode wraps up with a fun trivia question about which colleges have produced the most NFL players. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
We'll be back with a full Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast this weekend. Until then, here's a quick update from Berea from our daily video. The Browns continued their preparations for the Steelers on Wednesday, but first it was a look back at Shedeur Sanders' performance against the Bills on Sunday. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their daily recap video by discussing what offensive coordinator Tommy Rees had to say about the progress Sanders made on Sunday and if there's something to build on from that performance. Then they turn their attention to left guard Joel Bitonio's vote of confidence for head coach Kevin Stefanski and what he had to say about the Browns retaining Stefanski for a seventh year. They wrap up the video by updating some injuries, starting with the Browns and the return to practice for Denzel Ward and Dylan Sampson and T.J. Watt returning to Steelers practice. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talk the future of the quarterback position. They discuss the central dilemma: should the Browns build around fifth-round pick Shedeur Sanders and use their high draft picks to acquire a top wide receiver or offensive tackle, or should they draft a new franchise quarterback like Fernando Mendoza or Dante Moore? The discussion weighs the pros and cons of sticking with Sanders, highlighting his signs of progress and leadership potential against the risk of passing on a rare opportunity to draft a top-tier QB. This decision is further complicated by the uncertainty surrounding the coaching staff. Dan and Mary Kay explore the job security of head coach Kevin Stefanski, questioning if he will return and how a potential coaching change would impact the team's choice at quarterback. They contrast this with the relative safety of GM Andrew Berry's position and how his vision might shape the franchise's direction. They also address subscriber questions about roster management failures, the team's disappointing losses and whether Myles Garrett's pursuit of the sack record has affected the run defense. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Cleveland Browns 3-12 season thus far does not seem promising for Kevin Stefanski's future. The thing is, no one has really heard anything at all on that front -- Mary Kay Cabot saying everyone is being very quiet regarding the situation.
Full second hour of Baskin and Phelps on December 22, 2025
In this postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dig into the Browns' 23-20 loss to the Bills. The primary focus: the continued development of rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders. They were impressed with the traits he displayed, including his elusiveness, toughness and ability to keep the Browns in the game with a makeshift offensive line and limited offensive weapons and showed incremental improvements. Was Sanders convincing enough for the Browns to build around him and use their high draft pick on other positions of need, or should they still target one of the top quarterbacks in the draft? Lance Reisland joined the show to provide his analysis of Sanders' game, the struggling run defense, and other key moments. The podcast also covers the unfortunate season-ending injury to promising rookie running back Quinshon Judkins and Myles Garrett's quest to break the sack record. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the Browns-Bills preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down the key storylines for the upcoming matchup. They discuss whether quarterback Shedeur Sanders can rebound from his three-interception game last week against the Bills' second-ranked pass defense. They also talk about his need to improve his decision-making, build chemistry with his receivers beyond his security blanket, Harold Fannin Jr., and take the easy completions offered to him. Another major topic: the Browns' struggling run game. They also get into if this is the week Myles Garrett will break the single-season sack record. Lance Reisland joins the show to provide his in-depth scouting report on the Bills. He explains why he believes Josh Allen is the best quarterback in the league, highlights the underrated talent of running back James Cook and breaks down their dangerous special teams. Lastly, everyone makes their picks for Sunday's game. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Hour 3: Mary Kay Cabot + One good draft should not secure Andrew Berry's job full 2345 Thu, 18 Dec 2025 15:21:27 +0000 yCbrR6G5FXd8uxmE3InIPeY3PdEAtcMk sports The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima sports Hour 3: Mary Kay Cabot + One good draft should not secure Andrew Berry's job The only place to talk about the Cleveland sports scene is with Ken Carman and Anthony Lima. The two guide listeners through the ups and downs of being a fan of the Browns, Cavaliers, Guardians and Ohio State Buckeyes in Northeast Ohio. They'll help you stay informed with breaking news, game coverage, and interviews with top personalities.Catch The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima live Monday through Friday (6 a.m. - 10 a.m ET) on 92.3 The Fan, the exclusive audio home of the Browns, or on the Audacy app. For more, follow the show on X @KenCarmanShow. 2024 © 2021 Audacy, Inc. Sports False https://player.a
Mary Kay Cabot (Cleveland.com, The Plain Dealer) joins Ken Carman and Anthony Lima to share the latest information on the Cleveland Browns, including whether Shedeur Sanders could start in 2026, and whether Andrew Berry "nailed" the Browns' 2025 draft.
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get into the future of the Browns quarterback position, centered around Shedeur Sanders. They start by dissecting Sanders' weekly press conference, covering his mindset of laying a foundation, the advice he received from Jameis Winston and his ongoing efforts to build chemistry with his receivers. The discussion then explores the central 'dichotomy' facing the team: Can they afford to be patient with a developing rookie when the Super Bowl window for veterans like Myles Garrett is closing? With a potential top draft pick looming, the pressure is on. They also delve into the significant uncertainty surrounding the coaching staff and front office. They debate whether Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry will return and how those decisions will ultimately shape the most important position on the team. Who will be making the call on the Browns' quarterback in 2026, and what will that decision be? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nick and Jonathan replay some comments from Mary Kay Cabot with Ken and Anthony about Kevin Stefanski deserving a shot to coach the Browns with a successful quarterback, and they push back on the idea that Stefanski deserves anything at all.
On Wednesday's Orange Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look ahead to the Browns' Week 16 matchup against the Buffalo Bills. They discusses the immense pressure on quarterback Shedeur Sanders to rebound from a tough game as he faces off against MVP candidate Josh Allen. They also focus on Myles Garrett's quest to break the NFL's single-season sack record at home and analyze the challenges facing a Browns defense that is grappling with injuries and a tough offensive opponent. In the second half, film expert Lance Reisland joins the show for a detailed breakdown of the game against the Bears. Reisland provides in-depth analysis of Sanders' development, the impressive instincts of rookie Carson Schwesinger and how the defense is coping with the loss of key players. The episode wraps up with a draft of the most frustrating things to wait for, from airport lines to slow elevators. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Following the Browns' 31-3 loss to the Chicago Bears, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe tackle the biggest question facing the Cleveland Browns: What does the future hold for head coach Kevin Stefanski and GM Andrew Berry? They kick off the Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by debating whether one or both could be fired and if Berry's successful 2025 draft class is enough to secure his position. The conversation quickly turns to the franchise's most glaring need: a quarterback. Dan and Mary Kay discuss the immense pressure on the front office to finally find their guy, questioning the trust in Andrew Berry's evaluation skills for the league's most important position. Then they get into Shedeur Sanders' performance, analyzing his recent step back against the Bears. Where does Sanders need to improve? How will the Browns get a full enough evaluation on him? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mary Kay Cabot joined Baskin and Phelps and shared her takeaways from the Browns' loss to the Bears and explains why she thinks the Browns are in a Super Bowl window despite only winning six games over the last two seasons. She talked about Kevin Stefanski's future, whether or not it is in Cleveland, and if he's the right guy to coach Shedeur Sanders.
Hour 2 of Baskin and Phelps
Mary Kay Cabot (Cleveland.com, 'The Plain Dealer') joins Ken Carman and Anthony Lima to go over the latest on the Cleveland Browns, quarterback Shedeur Sanders, head coach Kevin Stefanski, and more!
Hour 3: Mary Kay Cabot + Debunking the Stefanski-McCarver conspiracy full 2265 Thu, 11 Dec 2025 15:25:54 +0000 DAxWnlYMqJLj9fGQLFDGuq1ZGR5fl7Bx sports The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima sports Hour 3: Mary Kay Cabot + Debunking the Stefanski-McCarver conspiracy The only place to talk about the Cleveland sports scene is with Ken Carman and Anthony Lima. The two guide listeners through the ups and downs of being a fan of the Browns, Cavaliers, Guardians and Ohio State Buckeyes in Northeast Ohio. They'll help you stay informed with breaking news, game coverage, and interviews with top personalities.Catch The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima live Monday through Friday (6 a.m. - 10 a.m ET) on 92.3 The Fan, the exclusive audio home of the Browns, or on the Audacy app. For more, follow the show on X @KenCarmanShow. 2024 © 2021 Audacy, Inc. Sports False https://player.amperwave
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk all things Shedeur Sanders. With Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski officially handing him the reins for the rest of the season, they analyze what stood out from the rookie quarterback's latest press conference. They discuss Shedeur's hungry, underdog mentality, noting that as a fifth-round pick, he understands nothing is guaranteed and he has to prove himself in the final four games. The conversation explores how his draft day fall may have been the best thing for his career, giving him a chip on his shoulder and an edge that's fueling his rapid development. They also break down his ability to learn from mistakes, like the costly interception against the Titans, and how he's balancing his "hero ball" instincts with smarter play. They also touch on the dynamic between Sanders and his risk-averse head coach, and how the coach is learning how to best use the rookie's impressive elusiveness and accuracy. Finally, they look ahead to the frigid matchup against the interception-heavy Chicago Bears, a true test of his progress and mental fortitude. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe set up Bears week. With the Browns eliminated from the playoffs, the focus shifts to the future, and that means all eyes are on quarterback Shedeur Sanders. They discuss his four-game audition for the starting job, breaking down his impressive performance against the Titans, the explosiveness he brings to the offense and the critical need for game management and avoiding costly mistakes. They also get into how Sanders will fare against the Bears' turnover-happy defense and how the Browns' own run defense will handle Chicago's top-tier rushing attack after a poor showing against Tennessee. Lance Reisland joins the show to break down the film from the loss to the Titans. Lance offers his perspective on Sanders' growth, toughness and improved processing. He also provides a detailed schematic breakdown of exactly why the run defense struggled. The show wraps up with a “Start-Bench-Cut” segment, debating everything from Hall-of-Fame quarterbacks to Christmas cookies. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe get right to the biggest topic in Cleveland sports: Shedeur Sanders. Following the Browns' 31-29 loss to the Titans, Sanders has been named the starting quarterback for the rest of the season, and the hosts break down what's at stake. With four tough games ahead, can the fifth-round pick prove he is the franchise's future and take the Browns out of the quarterback sweepstakes in the 2026 NFL Draft? Mary Kay and Dan talk Sanders' impressive traits, from his "it factor" and elite accuracy to his surprising elusiveness and guts in the pocket. They also discuss the massive financial implications of finding a star QB on a rookie deal and how it could allow the Browns to build around him. Answering questions from Football Insider subscribers, they explore what the quarterback room could look like in 2026 with Sanders, Deshaun Watson and Dillon Gabriel, and debate whether it should be an open competition. They also dissect the controversial two-point conversions against the Titans and the analytics behind Kevin Stefanski's aggressive decisions. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mary Kay Cabot joined Baskin and Phelps to recap the Browns' loss to the Titans in week 14 and make sense of some of the play-calling decisions that were made. She talked about Shedeur Sanders' progression as a starter, whether or not he could be the team's franchise quarterback, and whether or not the Browns should consider using their 2026 draft capital to take a quarterback. She also shared her thoughts on the front office and whether or not she expects the team to make a regime change in the off-season.
Hour 2 of Baskin and Phelps
On this live postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe dig into the Browns' 31-29 loss to the Titans. Despite the loss, the main topic of conversation is the breakout performance of rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders, who threw for 364 yards and accounted for four total touchdowns. They discuss how Sanders bolstered his case to be the Browns' starting quarterback for the future, leading two clutch touchdown drives late in the game to give his team a chance to win. The podcast then pivots to the controversial coaching decisions that ultimately cost the Browns the game. They get into the two failed two-point conversion attempts, specifically the decision to take a red-hot Sanders off the field for the final, game-tying try. They debate the analytics behind the calls and whether it was a moment for "players over plays." Finally, the discussion turns to the team's numerous mistakes, including costly special teams errors and a defensive letdown, and what this loss could mean for the future of head coach Kevin Stefanski. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
It's the Browns vs. Titans preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into Sunday's game between the Browns and Titans, spotlighting the quarterback duel between Shedeur Sanders and Cam Ward. They also discuss Myles Garrett's pursuit of the single-season sack record. He's 3.5 sacks away from tying the record. Could he tie it or break it on Sunday? Could this game be a repeat of the Raiders game for Garrett and the Browns' defensive line? Film analyst Lance Reisland joins the show to provide his scouting report, offering insights into key player matchups and strategies to watch for. Then everyone makes their picks for Sunday's matchup at Huntington Bank Field. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mary Kay Cabot (Cleveland.com, The Plain Dealer) joins Ken Carman and Anthony Lima to talk about the latest on the Cleveland Browns, including the activation of Deshaun Watson, what it means for Shedeur Sanders, and whether Watson could play this season.
Hour 3: Mary Kay Cabot + Shedeur hype not as expected full 2245 Thu, 04 Dec 2025 14:02:43 +0000 cBAyx4ScWzdQqiOp3dMeWEYPmECOHwUe sports The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima sports Hour 3: Mary Kay Cabot + Shedeur hype not as expected The only place to talk about the Cleveland sports scene is with Ken Carman and Anthony Lima. The two guide listeners through the ups and downs of being a fan of the Browns, Cavaliers, Guardians and Ohio State Buckeyes in Northeast Ohio. They'll help you stay informed with breaking news, game coverage, and interviews with top personalities.Catch The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima live Monday through Friday (6 a.m. - 10 a.m ET) on 92.3 The Fan, the exclusive audio home of the Browns, or on the Audacy app. For more, follow the show on X @KenCarmanShow. 2024 © 2021 Audacy, Inc. Sports False https://player.amperwavepodcasting.com?
Nick and Jonathan revisit some comments Mary Kay Cabot made about Wyatt Teller and him needing to prove himself and got angry all over again at the idea that Teller needs to prove anything.
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe set the stage for the upcoming Browns vs. Titans matchup. They dive into the intriguing quarterback battle between the Browns' fifth-round pick, Shedeur Sanders, and the Titans' No. 1 overall pick, Cam Ward, and what this game means for both franchises. The conversation shifts to the future, focusing on draft positioning and whether Sanders can prove he's the long-term answer at quarterback in the season's final games. Ashley highlights the potential for Myles Garrett to break the NFL's single-season sack record against the oft-sacked Cam Ward. They also discuss the opportunity for young players like Mike Hall Jr. and Teven Jenkins to get extended looks due to recent injuries. In the second half of the pod, Lance Reisland joins Dan for a deep dive into the film from the 49ers game. Lance provides a detailed analysis of Shedeur Sanders' performance, pointing out both high-level plays and correctable issues with his footwork and timing. They also dissect special teams breakdowns and the surprising decision to rotate Wyatt Teller on the offensive line. To wrap things up, Dan and Lance have a four-round draft of the worst parts of winter. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe dive into the fallout from the Browns' 26-8 loss to the 49ers. They begin by discussing the decision to handle quarterback Shedeur Sanders' starting role on a week-to-week basis. Is it a good strategy to keep Sanders hungry and prevent him from getting too comfortable? The conversation then turns to the offense's chemistry issues, particularly the visible on-field frustration between Sanders and wide receiver Jerry Jeudy. Mary Kay and Dan explore why Jeudy is having a subpar season and what his long-term future looks like in Cleveland, considering his contract makes him difficult to move. Mary Kay and Dan also break down the game's most critical blunders, including the confusing and ultimately failed 4th-and-1 direct snap to Harold Fannin Jr. and the continued abysmal play from the special teams unit. Then they tackle the big-picture question of whether Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski are "joined at the hip" as the team faces another losing season. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Kevin Stefanski is taking a lot of the heat for the way the Browns season has shaken out. Mary Kay Cabot makes a good point -- What team with a rookie QB is right now?
Full second hour of Baskin and Phelps on December 2, 2025
In this live postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe break down the Browns' 26-8 loss to the San Francisco 49ers. They start by analyzing the performance of rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders in his second start. They discuss the positive takeaways, including a well-thrown touchdown pass to Harold Fannin Jr. and avoiding costly interceptions, while also examining his development and what these final games mean for his future with the team. Can he do enough to prove he's the long-term answer at quarterback? They also touch on the sideline frustration between Sanders and Jerry Jeudy, the team's offensive chemistry issues and the overall sense of a season of missed opportunities. Another major topic of discussion? The continued struggles of the special teams. They detail several critical errors, from a muffed punt to poor returns, that gave the 49ers excellent field position and directly impacted the game's outcome. They explore how these recurring mistakes have cost the Browns multiple games this season, largely wasting a dominant defensive effort. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
92.3 The Fan presents a selection of guest appearances and interviews during the past week from The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima, Baskin & Phelps, and The Afternoon Drive. Featuring Doug Lesmerises, John Greco, Antonio Pittman, Mary Kay Cabot, Albert Breer, and John Fanta.
92.3 The Fan presents a selection of guest appearances and interviews during the past week from The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima, Baskin & Phelps, and The Afternoon Drive. Featuring Doug Lesmerises, John Greco, Antonio Pittman, Mary Kay Cabot, Albert Breer, and John Fanta.
92.3 The Fan presents a selection of guest appearances and interviews during the past week from The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima, Baskin & Phelps, and The Afternoon Drive. Featuring Doug Lesmerises, John Greco, Antonio Pittman, Mary Kay Cabot, Albert Breer, and John Fanta.
The Browns return home on Sunday to host the San Francisco 49ers, a team fighting for the playoffs but also traveling cross-country on a short week to play in Cleveland. Rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders will make his second consecutive start for the Browns. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin this week's preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about what to expect from Sanders in his second start. Will he take positive steps forward or will 49ers defensive coordinator Robert Saleh have him off balance? Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give his scouting report of the 49ers. What do they do well? Where can the Browns win their matchups against them?Lance also makes his pick for Sunday's game. Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and, along with Dan, make their picks for Sunday in Cleveland. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look ahead to the Browns' Week 12 matchup against the San Francisco 49ers. They discuss what to expect from rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders in his second start as he faces a Robert Saleh-coached defense. They talk about how the Browns might expand the game plan for Sanders and how the defense will match up against Brock Purdy, especially with potential bad weather and the homefield advantage. Then, Lance Reisland joins for his weekly film breakdown of the Browns' win over the Raiders. Lance gives his detailed analysis of Shedeur Sanders' performance, what he did well, and where he needs to improve. He also dives into the dominant performance by the defensive line, highlighting why Myles Garrett is playing on “another planet" and the importance of the team's interior pressure. Lastly, Lance and Dan do a four-round draft of the coaching clichés. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look ahead to Shedeur Sanders' second start as the Browns prepare to face the 49ers. They debate what a successful outing looks like for the rookie quarterback. Is a performance similar to his debut against Las Vegas enough, or does he need to show clear signs of progress in efficiency and execution? They discuss how the Browns' offense can build on the explosive plays from the last game while also developing more sustained drives. The conversation then shifts to address the off-field narratives surrounding Sanders. They break down the "Game Ball-Gate" controversy that erupted on social media after Kevin Stefanski didn't award Sanders a game ball for his first win. They provide context on Stefanski's history with game balls, his methodical approach to developing rookies, and debunk the conspiracy theories that the coach is attempting to sabotage his young quarterback. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this Hey, Mary Kay edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock break down the big news of the day: Shedeur Sanders will start for the Browns against the San Francisco 49ers. Fresh off red-eye flights from Las Vegas, they dive into listener questions about the rookie QB. Has Sanders already secured the starting job for the rest of the season? They discuss his poise, ability to push the ball downfield, and how he's brought new energy to the offense. The conversation also explores whether Sanders can convince the Browns not to draft a quarterback early in 2026 and the adjustments needed to build chemistry with Jerry Jeudy and Isaiah Bond. Plus, they dig into the defense's dominant performance, crediting the interior line for Myles Garrett's success, and whether defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz will be a head coaching candidate next year. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe check in from Las Vegas on the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast to break down the Browns' 24-10 win over the Raiders. The main topic of discussion: Shedeur Sanders' first career start. While his final stat line was modest, Sanders provided explosive plays the offense has lacked all season. Did Sanders' performance, filled with tantalizing flashes, earn him another start over Dillon Gabriel, even after Gabriel clears the concussion protocol. On the other side of the ball, they discuss another dominant performance from Myles Garrett, who added three sacks to his total, resetting his own franchise record for sacks in a season with 18. The group talks about his historic pace and how the improved play of the interior defensive line has unleashed him. They also touch on how the defense's elite play should create a sense of urgency for the front office to solve the quarterback position and how the team's rookies provide a bright spot for the future. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Browns take to the road on Sunday to take on the Las Vegas Raiders, a 2-8 football team that is averaging fewer points per game than even the anemic Browns offense. Most notably, rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders will make his first career start for the Browns. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin this week's preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about what to expect from Sanders in his first start. Will the Browns figure out how to best utilize his strengths and minimize his weaknesses? Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give his scouting report of the Raiders. What do they do well? Where can the Browns win their matchups against them? Lance also makes his pick for Sunday's game. Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and, along with Dan, make their picks for Sunday in Las Vegas. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mary Kay Cabot (Cleveland.com, "The Plain Dealer") joins Ken Carman and Anthony Lima to discuss the latest on the Cleveland Browns, including Shedeur Sanders' first NFL start, and whether Deshaun Watson will remain with the Cleveland Browns in 2026.
Ken Carman and Anthony Lima discuss an answer from Mary Kay Cabot on whether Deshaun Watson could remain on the Cleveland Browns roster next season.
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, and Dan Labbe get into the topic of the week: Shedeur Sanders has been named the starting quarterback for the Browns' game against the Las Vegas Raiders. They discuss Sanders' supreme confidence heading into his first NFL start, how the coaching staff can balance his big-play style with smart game management and the challenge of facing the Raiders on the road. Then, Mary Kay sits down with a very special guest: former Browns quarterback and Cleveland native, Brian Hoyer. Brian provides a unique quarterback's perspective on Sanders' potential and what he needs to improve on. He draws compelling parallels between the current quarterback situation with Dillon Gabriel and his own experience playing alongside Johnny Manziel. Hoyer also weighs in on Manziel's recent comments about the organization and shares his heartfelt well wishes for Browns legend Bernie Kosar. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, it's all about Raiders week and the expected first NFL start for Browns rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe set the table for the week and Mary Kay is 99.9% certain Sanders will start and explains what the Browns need to do to design a game plan that maximizes his skill set as a drop-back passer. Ashley discusses the Browns' terrible track record in West Coast games and why this matchup might not be the easy win some fans expect. They also marvel at Myles Garrett's dominant season and wonders what he has in store for the Raiders. Then, Lance Reisland joins Dan for a deep dive into the Ravens film. Lance breaks down every snap from Shedeur Sanders' debut, highlighting the good, the bad and the footwork. He offers his game plan for Sanders and explains why the interior defensive line has been so crucial to Garrett's success. Finally, Lance and Dan have some fun with a Thanksgiving food draft, building a starting lineup of their favorite holiday dishes. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices