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Ken and Anthony talk about whether or not the Browns trying to force Jim Schwartz on to head coaching candidates during their search turned off young talent from wanting to come to Cleveland.
Ken and Anthony continue their conversation about the Browns' insistence of keeping Jim Schwartz and why they think that may be a hinderance to young candidates.
Hour 3 of the Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima
Zac Jackson joined Ken Carman and Anthony Lima to break down the latest news surrounding the Browns' search for a new head coach, whether or not Nate Scheelhaase truly has the pedigree of a head coach, and if Jim Schwartz is the answer for the vacancy. He shared his thoughts on the rumors surrounding how the Browns conduct their searches, why the Bills seem to be interviewing all of the same candidates, and who is the driving force behind the eventual hire.
Ken and Anthony talk to callers, and discuss whether or not the Browns have any other options for a head coach other than Nate Scheelhaase or Jim Schwartz
Ken and Anthony share their thoughts on Jim Schwartz' presence in the Browns' coaching search and whether or not that has been a hinderance to the team
Ken and Anthony share their reactions to the news overnight of Jim Schwartz becoming the frontrunner in the Browns' head coaching search and why fans seem to have turned on him so suddenly.
Niners insider, Matt Maiocco joins Dirty Work to break down the Niners DC search with Gus Bradley, Raheem Morris, & Jim Schwartz, and also dives into the possible off-season needs for the teamSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The MMQB's Albert Breer joins Afternoon Drive on The Fan. He talks about the Browns process in hiring a new head coach, how much of a factor Jim Schwartz is in the hire, Nate Scheelhasse's readiness to be a head coach in the NFL, and more.
Nick and Jonathan look at the Browns head coaching search and if the team's reported emphasis on keeping Jim Schwartz as the defensive coordinator.
A to Z Sports NFL Draft Analyst Joe DeLeone joins Afternoon Drive on The Fan. He talks about the quarterbacks in the 2026 class, why he doesn't like the Mike McCarthy hire in Pittsburgh, the latest in the Browns coaching search, and more.
Nick and Jonathan debate if fans would be upset if Jim Schwartz was hired as head coach.
John Fanta of NBC Sports joins Afternoon Drive on The Fan. He talks about who he favors in the Browns coaching search, if he'd be upset if they hired Jim Schwartz, the recent turnaround from the Cavs, and more.
Nick Wilson and Jonathan Peterlin talk about how fans would react if the Browns hire Jim Schwartz as their next head coach. Then, they react to the best sound bites and storylines from around the sports and entertainment world.
Nick and Jonathan question if the Browns have made Jim Schwartz too much of a factor in their coaching search. Then, they're joined by John Fanta of NBC Sports, and JP shares a unique fact about Nate Scheelhasse.
Nick and Jonathan debate if Browns DC Jim Schwartz will stay on with the Browns if the team doesn't hire him as head coach.
Daniel Oyefusi of ESPN joins Afternoon Drive on The Fan. He talks about the latest with the Browns coaching search, if Nate Scheelhasse has now become the favorite for the job, the odds that Jim Schwartz returns as defensive coordinator, and more.
In this episode, Adam Copeland and Derek Papa are joined by Brian Peacock, host of the Locked on 49ers podcast, to discuss the San Francisco 49ers' offseason plans. They dive into the team's potential moves, including the possibility of trading for Justin Jefferson and addressing the need for speed and playmakers on offense. Brian shares his thoughts on the 49ers' approach to the offseason, including the importance of adding a wide receiver and potentially signing a big-name defensive coordinator like Jim Schwartz. The conversation also touches on the team's future with Christian McCaffrey and Mac Jones.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Former Browns offensive lineman Jason Pinkston joins Afternoon Drive on The Fan. He talks about the people involved in the Browns coaching search, what the team needs most in their next head coach, if Jim Schwartz is too safe of a hire, and more.
Audacy NFL Insider Brian Baldinger joins Afternoon Drive on The Fan. He talks about both conference title games, his top candidates for the Browns head coaching job, if Myles Garrett should be involved in interviews, and more.
The Cleveland Browns head coaching search is heating up, and the finalists are starting to take shape. On today's episode of The Dawgland Podcast, Anthony Joki and Jackson McCurry break down the Browns' second-round head coaching interviews, including Jim Schwartz, Grant Udinski, Nate Scheelhaase, and Todd Monken.We debate whether Cleveland should prioritize continuity and accountability with Schwartz, or swing big on a young offensive mind to finally stabilize the quarterback position. We also dig into staff-building concerns, offensive play-calling responsibilities, and how the Browns' uncertain QB situation could impact their final decision.If you're a Browns fan trying to make sense of the process, the patience required, and what direction this franchise should take—this episode is for you.Go Browns.Jim Schwartz's case for continuity and accountabilityWhy Schwartz feels like a risky “one-and-done” hireGrant Udinski's meteoric rise and upside as a head coachCan a 30-year-old first-time HC succeed in Cleveland?Rams passing-game coordinator Nate Scheelhaase and the patience factorTodd Monken's role: head coach or OC option?Browns quarterback uncertainty and its impact on the coaching searchShould Cleveland roll with Shedeur Sanders or add veteran competition?
In this episode, Adam Copeland and Derek Papa are joined by Brian Peacock, host of the Locked on 49ers podcast, to discuss the San Francisco 49ers' offseason plans. They dive into the team's potential moves, including the possibility of trading for Justin Jefferson and addressing the need for speed and playmakers on offense. Brian shares his thoughts on the 49ers' approach to the offseason, including the importance of adding a wide receiver and potentially signing a big-name defensive coordinator like Jim Schwartz. The conversation also touches on the team's future with Christian McCaffrey and Mac Jones.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The Cleveland Browns head coaching search is heating up, and the finalists are starting to take shape. On today's episode of The Dawgland Podcast, Anthony Joki and Jackson McCurry break down the Browns' second-round head coaching interviews, including Jim Schwartz, Grant Udinski, Nate Scheelhaase, and Todd Monken.We debate whether Cleveland should prioritize continuity and accountability with Schwartz, or swing big on a young offensive mind to finally stabilize the quarterback position. We also dig into staff-building concerns, offensive play-calling responsibilities, and how the Browns' uncertain QB situation could impact their final decision.If you're a Browns fan trying to make sense of the process, the patience required, and what direction this franchise should take—this episode is for you.Go Browns.Jim Schwartz's case for continuity and accountabilityWhy Schwartz feels like a risky “one-and-done” hireGrant Udinski's meteoric rise and upside as a head coachCan a 30-year-old first-time HC succeed in Cleveland?Rams passing-game coordinator Nate Scheelhaase and the patience factorTodd Monken's role: head coach or OC option?Browns quarterback uncertainty and its impact on the coaching searchShould Cleveland roll with Shedeur Sanders or add veteran competition?
Ken and Anthony argue the merits of a green head coach for the Browns vs. hiring someone like Jim Schwartz.
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reset the Browns' ongoing head coaching search. With Mike McDaniel backing out to take the Chargers' OC job and Tommy Rees joining Kevin Stefanski in Atlanta, the interview schedule is shifting. They discuss the upcoming second interviews with candidates like Jesse Minter, Grant Udinski and Nate Scheelhaase. The central debate revolves around the pros and cons of hiring a young, offensive-minded innovator versus a more experienced veteran coach like Jim Schwartz or Todd Monken. They analyze the relatively thin resumes of the younger candidates and stress the importance of building a strong, veteran support staff around a first-time head coach. The conversation also explores Kevin Stefanski's new situation in Atlanta, as he gets the band back together with former Browns coaches. They highlight how his success, much like the future of the Browns' next coach, will ultimately depend on finding a solution at the all-important quarterback position. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Lance Reisland of Cleveland.com joins Afternoon Drive on The Fan. He talks about the ‘final four' candidates involved in the Browns coaching search, the top offensive lineman and wide receivers in this draft class, and more.
"Baskin & Phelps" talk about how the Browns will interview Chargers DC Jesse Minter Thursday and whether or not they should go with a defensive minded head coach other than Jim Schwartz.
On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to a chaotic night in the Browns' head coaching search. The big news is that Mike McDaniel has withdrawn his name from consideration, just a day before his scheduled in-person interview. The crew discusses the massive implications of this decision, including how it complicates the Browns' need to satisfy the Rooney Rule and what it says about the appeal of the Cleveland job, especially given the uncertainty at quarterback. They also touch on other candidates like Todd Monken, Jim Schwartz and the young offensive minds still in the running. Then, the podcast takes a detour to discuss some drama involving a former Browns quarterback and a former Browns coach. Baker Mayfield took to social media to call out Kevin Stefanski, who is now the head coach in Atlanta. The hosts revisit the fractured relationship between the two from the 2021 season, referencing Mary Kay's reporting from that time, and discuss the new rivalry brewing in the NFC South. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nick Wilson and Jonathan Peterlin talk about the momentum from Browns fans toward hiring Grant Udinski. Then, they react to the best sound bites and storylines from around the sports and entertainment world.
Nick and Jonathan react to Mike Florio's report about Jim Schwartz candidacy for the Browns head coaching job and if they will need to promote him to keep him in Cleveland.
Nick and Jonathan talk about the chances that the Raiders could trade the first overall pick, and they get into the Browns options with Jim Schwartz this offseason.
Nick and Jonathan talk about the candidacy of Grant Udinski and him potentially being the favorite.
With Robert Saleh officially leaving the San Francisco 49ers to become head coach of the Tennessee Titans, Kyle Shanahan is once again tasked with replacing his defensive coordinator — the fifth change in as many seasons.We break down external candidates like Brian Flores, Jim Schwartz, Raheem Morris, Matt Burke, and Corey Undlin, along with internal options including Gus Bradley, KJ Wright, and Daniel Bullocks. From aggressive blitz packages to conservative Cover-3 systems, we analyze scheme fit, roster impact, and long-term stability.Plus:Why Flores might be the best defensive coach in football — and why it's riskyWhich candidate best mirrors Saleh's “All Gas, No Brakes” mentalityWhy continuity may matter more than upside in 2026How Saleh's Titans job could impact the 49ers' rosterIf you're wondering who should replace Robert Saleh, this episode has you covered.Purchase G.O.A.T Fuel: https://goatfuel.com/?rfsn=8542698.99750d3Visit Sports Spyder for up to date 49ers content: https://sportspyder.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/newsFollow us on Twitter @49ers_AccessFollow us on Instagram @49ers.access
Highlights: NFL coaching searches are highly unpredictable, with success often coming from candidates with unassuming résumés rather than just impressive ones. Many elite NFL coaches, like John Harbaugh and Andy Reid, were hired from non-coordinator roles, proving that a candidate's title doesn't always predict success. The rapid rise of young coaches like Grant Udinski highlights that potential and impressing the right people can create a fast track to prominent NFL roles. The "Moneyball" principle applies to coaching hires; despite confidence in interviews, success is unpredictable as the head coach role requires intangible skills beyond X's and O's. Sean McDermott is considered a strong coaching candidate due to his proven track record of building a winning culture in Buffalo and developing QB Josh Allen. Despite regular-season success, McDermott's legacy is hampered by his inability to win a Super Bowl, consistently falling short in critical playoff moments. The discussion highlights a preference for experienced, known commodities like McDermott over high-risk, high-reward "hot" candidates to minimize the gamble of a coaching search. Jim Schwartz successfully turned around a winless Lions team but ultimately had a losing record. The Cleveland Browns' head coaching job is viewed as less attractive ("bottom tier") than others due to organizational instability and immense pressure. "Watson exhaustion"—the pressure to make the Deshaun Watson trade succeed—is fueling organizational turmoil and staff turnover within the Browns. An intriguing possibility for the Browns is hiring a veteran defensive head coach like McDermott while retaining Jim Schwartz as DC to form a powerful leadership duo. Monday's Cavs loss to OKC highlighted a philosophical flaw, exposing their offense-first "finesse" style as vulnerable against tougher, more disciplined defensive teams. The underperformance of highly-paid Cavaliers veterans like Lonzo Ball and DeAndre Hunter is a major factor in the team's current struggles. Amidst rising MLB salaries, Terry suggest the Guardians give Jose Ramirez a "good faith" bonus on his team-friendly contract to acknowledge his value. Which coaches/ managers have the biggest impact on the success of a team: Baseball, basketball or football? A listener asks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Richard Sherman reacts to Robert Saleh landing the Tennessee Titans head coaching job and breaks down why it’s one of the toughest rebuilds in the NFL, from roster holes to AFC South competition. Sherm and Mitchell Green discuss what Saleh brings as a leader, how the Titans can establish a defensive identity, and why hiring the right offensive coordinator will be critical. The conversation shifts to the San Francisco 49ers’ defensive coordinator vacancy, potential candidates like Jim Schwartz and Raheem Morris, and whether Sherm would ever consider coaching himself. Sherm also gives his unfiltered take on the Buffalo Bills moving on from Sean McDermott, questions the GM’s promotion, and explains why Buffalo’s roster construction is the real issue. To close, Sherman reacts to the NFL’s push for an 18-game regular season, international games, increased injuries, and what players would need in return for that kind of workload. Insightful, honest, and straight from someone who’s lived it — this is NFL talk you won’t get anywhere else. All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Hour 1 of the Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima
Ken and Anthony talk about Mary Kay Cabot's report of the Browns using Jim Schwartz' interview as a fact-finding mission and discuss whether or not that is disrespectful to their DC.
SF Standard 49ers Reporter David Lombardi joins the show to discuss the 49ers' offseason plans. They dive into the recent news of Robert Saleh taking the Tennessee job and what it means for the 49ers' defensive coordinator search. David shares his thoughts on potential candidates, including Gus Bradley and Jim Schwartz, and how the team might approach the receiver position in free agency. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Full Second Hour of Baskin and Phelps on January 20, 2026
Mary Kay Cabot joins Jeff and Dan for the latest on the Browns' coaching search ahead of second round interviews this week.
Dieter and Jake have a list. Chapters (00:00:00) - Robert Salah Gets Paid $25 Million(00:06:02) - Kubiak on the John Harbaugh hire(00:11:03) - Ben Johnson on Zac Taylor's Promotion(00:14:49) - Steve Wilcox on the 49ers' Coordinator Search(00:20:32) - Gus Bradley: Don't Go To Default With Your DC(00:26:01) - Jim Schwartz: If the 49ers hired him, they'd win(00:32:45) - Jim Schwartz for San Francisco 49ers(00:39:32) - Brian Flores: Would He Leave Minnesota?(00:44:40) - Joe Flacco on Gus Bradley's Scheme(00:50:24) - Steve Wilcox for the Jaguars(00:55:19) - 49ers: Juwan Jennings should get paid(01:00:51) - Jairon Williams on His Proposals(01:05:25) - 49ers OL Needs a Bulldozer(01:10:59) - The 49ers need more Maulers on the offensive line(01:15:45) - Free agency and the 49ers' plans
SF Standard 49ers Reporter David Lombardi joins the show to discuss the 49ers' offseason plans. They dive into the recent news of Robert Saleh taking the Tennessee job and what it means for the 49ers' defensive coordinator search. David shares his thoughts on potential candidates, including Gus Bradley and Jim Schwartz, and how the team might approach the receiver position in free agency. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Nick and Jake dive into if they believe the Browns should give defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz the head coaching job for the Browns.
The Full Second Hour of Baskin and Phelps on January 19, 2026
When it comes to the next head coach of the Cleveland Browns, Tyvis Powell believes that the person for the job needs to be able to hold respect from players and keep them accountable no matter who it is. Listen to his thoughts on Kevin Stefanski and Jim Schwartz, and what he thinks will happen at QB.
Is Jim Schwartz a big enough change for the Browns? If that is the direction the search goes, what other changes need to come with it?
In the midst of the of Browns head coaching search, Scott Petrak joined the mid-day show with his thoughts on the vacancy. If Jim Schwartz is hired, there has to be a big change on offense. Plus what does the future hold for Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders?
Anthony defends his choice of Jim Schwartz as the next Browns head coach and Ken explains why he might be all-in on Grant Udinski
On a Friday episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk Browns defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz getting the first second interview in the team's coaching search. They discuss why he's a popular choice with players and fans, representing the path of least resistance by keeping the team's dominant defense intact. They explore what his promotion would mean for the team's identity and the necessary overhaul on the offensive side of the ball. They also cover the other dominoes, including Todd Monken getting a second interview and the uncertain future of offensive coordinator Tommy Rees. Will the Browns look to build on their defensive strength and find a quarterback they can win with, or will another candidate emerge from their ongoing interviews? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices