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We'll be back with a full Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast this weekend. Until then, here's a quick update from Berea from our daily video. The Browns continued their preparations for the Steelers on Wednesday, but first it was a look back at Shedeur Sanders' performance against the Bills on Sunday. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their daily recap video by discussing what offensive coordinator Tommy Rees had to say about the progress Sanders made on Sunday and if there's something to build on from that performance. Then they turn their attention to left guard Joel Bitonio's vote of confidence for head coach Kevin Stefanski and what he had to say about the Browns retaining Stefanski for a seventh year. They wrap up the video by updating some injuries, starting with the Browns and the return to practice for Denzel Ward and Dylan Sampson and T.J. Watt returning to Steelers practice. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jake Vulinec doesn't buy that the Browns haven't made a decision yet on the future of Kevin Stefanski. Then, he reacts to the best sound bites and storylines from around the sports and entertainment world.
Andy and Dan continue their conversation on how attractive the head coaching job with the Browns would be, and who would be a viable option to replace Kevin Stefanski if he gets fired.
Andy and Dan lay out the difficulties a new head coach could have if the Browns don't also go with a new GM.
Hour 1 of Baskin and Phelps
Mike and Brook break down why the Browns' issues still start at the top. They discuss grading Shedeur on a curve under poor head coaching, Kevin Stefanski's predictable offense, and a culture that continues to hold players back. Even with a promising young quarterback, the Browns won't move forward until leadership and accountability change.0:30 Mike and Brook open before Christmas, reacting to another Browns loss and joking about “hanging around” despite a bleak season.1:30 Mike lays out the core problem: the Browns need a real head coach who can recognize talent and discipline the culture.5:00 Discussion shifts to grading Shedeur on a curve and how Stefanski's conservative offense limits downfield opportunities.10:45 Brook and Mike agree Shedeur has shown leadership and poise, especially in his press conference, and should remain the starter next year.14:00 Mike uses Moneyball to argue for decisive leadership, then expands into why the Browns must hire an alpha, culture-setting head coach to move forward.
On this episode, hear from HC Kevin Stefanski, QB Shedeur Sanders, TE Harold Fannin Jr, and CB Denzel Ward on Tuesday's availability ahead of Week 17's home matchup against the Pittsburgh Steelers.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Nick and Jonathan share their takeaways from their conversation with Albert Breer and talk about how unbelievable it is that Jimmy Haslam still doesn't know if he's keeping Stefanski and Berry beyond 2025
The Steelers are now riding a 3 game winning streak after beating the Lions in an absurd finish in Detroit. Now the Steelers travel up the turnpike to take on the Shaduer Sanders led Cleveland Browns. Join your hosts Jeremy Kohlman, Wil Masisak, and Korey Karbowsky as they relish the close win over Detroit, take a look the matchup versus Cleveland without their top receiver in DK Metcalf, and look around the NFL in Week 17 as multiple high level games will help solidify the playoff picture as teams inch towards the end of the regular season.
Full second hour of Baskin and Phelps on December 22, 2025
On this episode, hear from Browns HC Kevin Stefanski, QB Shedeur Sanders, and DE Myles Garrett following Week 16's 23-20 loss to the Buffalo Bills.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Nick and Jonathan talk about whether or not they think Kevin Stefanski's job should be safe if the Browns win the last two games of the season, and if he should be a package deal with Andrew Berry.
Nathan Zegura joined Nick and Jonathan on Afternoon Drive to recap the Browns' loss to the Bills and what positives he saw from the team on Sunday. He discussed whether or not Shedeur could be the team's long term starter, if Stefanski and Berry are safe, and whether or not Stefanski would be a hot commodity around the NFL.
Nick and Jonathan talk about multiple reports saying the Browns haven't made a decision on Kevin Stefanski and they try to figure out why.
Thursday at 11:15 PM ET. Hosted by Emmanuel Acho with LeSean “Shady” McCoy and "Carebear" Kieran, the show brings hot takes, cold truths, and culturally forward conversations that connect sports and culture in real time. YouTube Twitter Instagram TikTok Facebook PrizePicks x Speakeasy Pick MORE or LESS. Win cash. Talk your talk. Play $5, get $50 in lineups → PrizePicks | America's #1 Fantasy Sports App Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
92.3 The Fan presents a selection of conversations about the Browns from The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima, Baskin & Phelps, and The Afternoon Drive. The guys discuss whether Kevin Stefanski's fate is all but sealed, and react to a report suggesting the Browns are interested in rehiring old friend Bill Belichick. Plus, why is the national media so high on Stefanski, and could he be fired before the end of the season?
92.3 The Fan presents a selection of conversations about the Browns from The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima, Baskin & Phelps, and The Afternoon Drive. The guys discuss whether Kevin Stefanski's fate is all but sealed, and react to a report suggesting the Browns are interested in rehiring old friend Bill Belichick. Plus, why is the national media so high on Stefanski, and could he be fired before the end of the season?
92.3 The Fan presents a selection of conversations about the Browns from The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima, Baskin & Phelps, and The Afternoon Drive. The guys discuss whether Kevin Stefanski's fate is all but sealed, and react to a report suggesting the Browns are interested in rehiring old friend Bill Belichick. Plus, why is the national media so high on Stefanski, and could he be fired before the end of the season?
Thursday at 11:15 PM ET. Hosted by Emmanuel Acho with LeSean “Shady” McCoy and "Carebear" Kieran, the show brings hot takes, cold truths, and culturally forward conversations that connect sports and culture in real time. YouTube Twitter Instagram TikTok Facebook PrizePicks x Speakeasy Pick MORE or LESS. Win cash. Talk your talk. Play $5, get $50 in lineups → PrizePicks | America's #1 Fantasy Sports App Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode, hear from Browns HC Kevin Stefanski, OL Coach Mike Bloomgren, CB Coach Brandon Lynch, RB Quinshon Judkins, DT Mason Graham, and DE Myles Garrett on Friday's availability ahead of a Week 16 home game against the Buffalo Bills.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Dan Menningen and Anthony Alandt turn back the clock and take a listen to their favorite Stefanski sayings.
Dan Menningen and Anthony Alandt are joined by former Indians pitcher Brian Anderson, talk about if Gof5 schools should participate in the CFP and listen to our favorite Stefanski sayings in the third hour of "Baskin and Phelps" for Friday, December 19, 2025
The Fanatical Elfz Show: Stefanski and Sanders are the talk of Browns Town Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nick and Jonathan replay some comments from Mary Kay Cabot with Ken and Anthony about Kevin Stefanski deserving a shot to coach the Browns with a successful quarterback, and they push back on the idea that Stefanski deserves anything at all.
Thursday at 11:15 PM ET. Hosted by Emmanuel Acho with LeSean “Shady” McCoy and "Carebear" Kieran, the show brings hot takes, cold truths, and culturally forward conversations that connect sports and culture in real time. YouTube Twitter Instagram TikTok Facebook PrizePicks x Speakeasy Pick MORE or LESS. Win cash. Talk your talk. Play $5, get $50 in lineups → PrizePicks | America's #1 Fantasy Sports App Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode, hear from Browns HC Kevin Stefanski, QB Shedeur Sanders, WR Jerry Jeudy, and CB Denzel Ward on Wednesday's availability ahead of a Week 16 game against the Buffalo Bills.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Ken Carman and Anthony Lima explain why Shedeur Sanders hasn't locked down the starting quarterback position for the 2026 Cleveland Browns, and why the national narrative may have turned on Kevin Stefanski.
Ross Tucker joined Nick and Jonathan on Afternoon Drive and shared his thoughts on how Shedeur Sanders has performed so far this season, and if he's shown enough to be considered the permanent starter into next season. He also talked about why things have fallen apart for the Browns, as well as the future of Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry.
Jeff Phelps and Dan Menningen talk about what it means that Wyatt Teller is trending in the right direction according to Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski.
First Take resumes with the Eagles. They showed signs against an imperfect Raiders squad, but should they be considered an A-tier NFC team? And, who has more on the line the rest of this season: Shedeur or Stefanski? (0:00) Next, Stephen A. shares his top 5 NFL teams after week 15! (16:00) Next, Paul Finebaum joins to tell us if Kalen DeBoer really plans on staying at Alabama. (30:00) Finally, are we sleeping on Lamar and the Ravens? With no Mahomes and a shaky Bills squad, could this be their breakthrough year? (39:30) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
On this episode, hear from Browns HC Kevin Stefanski, TE Harold Fannin Jr., and LB Mohamoud Diabate from Monday's availability following a Week 15 game in Chicago against the Bears.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Hour 3 of Baskin and Phelps
Andy and Jeff continue their conversation about loyalty within the Browns and why that may be the reason Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry keep their jobs.
Highlights: The Browns fan base is divided, with some calling for Kevin Stefanski's firing while others blame owner Jimmy Haslam and the "sabotage" of the Deshaun Watson trade. GM Andrew Berry's draft history is under scrutiny, with notable misses like Jedrick Wills but also successful trades, showcasing a mixed but promising record. Stefanski faces criticism for poor in-game management, clock-management issues and consistently failing special teams. Terry says there's a critical need for the Browns to acquire veteran players in the offseason to bring stability to the roster, especially on special teams and the offensive line. WR Jerry Jeudy has been a major disappointment, criticized for inconsistent play and a casual attitude toward crucial mistakes, labeling him a "liability." Rookie QB Shedeur Sanders shows potential and maturity under difficult circumstances but needs to improve on holding the ball too long, which has led to excessive sacks. Rookie kicker Andre Szmyt has emerged as a bright spot and a reliable long-term solution, hitting 18 of his last 20 field goals, including a clutch 50-yarder in harsh conditions. The Cavaliers are "stuck on the spin cycle" due to a plague of injuries to key players like Evan Mobley, Jarrett Allen and Darius Garland, preventing team consistency. Donovan Mitchell's "Superman" role is considered unsustainable, with concerns that his heavy offensive workload will lead to burnout before the playoffs. A listener says that expectations for Evan Mobley may be too high; developing into a consistent 19-point, 10-rebound, NBA All-Defensive Team player should be viewed as a major success. The Cavaliers' offense is inefficiently reliant on three-pointers, ranking near the top in attempts but in the bottom third for percentage, failing to leverage their frontcourt strength. Terry says a deep playoff run for the Cavaliers is now considered a "long shot" due to significant injuries, an overworked Donovan Mitchell, and a flawed offensive strategy. The Guardians are remaining quiet this offseason, with significant roster additions expected to come via trade rather than through free agent signings. Former Guardians pitcher Triston McKenzie is experiencing a concerning career decline due to a severe case of "the yips," which has derailed his control and command. Terry recommends the book "1861" by Jay Winick for its compelling, character-driven narrative of the weeks leading up to the U.S. Civil War. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this postgame episode, hear from Browns HC Kevin Stefanski, QB Shedeur Sanders, and DE Myles Garrett following Week 15's game in Chicago.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Ken Carman and Anthony Lima discuss the Cleveland Browns' loss to the Chicago Bears, and why the Browns' latest episode of "gofy football" means it's time to move on from the current regime.
Ken Carman and Anthony Lima address Kevin Stefanski's answer on a supposed wristband issue for Shedeur Sanders, who struggled on an icy Sunday in Chicago.
Andy and Jeff continue their conversation about Stefanski's coaching of the current roster and they take more phone calls.
Andy and Jeff talk about what could potentially happen if Kevin Stefanski doesn't get fired.
On this episode, hear from Browns HC Kevin Stefanski, QB Coach Bill Musgrave, DL Coach Jacques Cesaire, RB Quinshon Judkins, and DE Myles Garrett on Friday's availability ahead of Week 15's game at the Chicago Bears.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Ken Carman and Jason Lloyd discuss Cleveland Browns head coach Stefanski's potential future with the team.
Thursday at 11:15 PM ET. Hosted by Emmanuel Acho with LeSean “Shady” McCoy and "Carebear" Kieran, the show brings hot takes, cold truths, and culturally forward conversations that connect sports and culture in real time. YouTube Twitter Instagram TikTok Facebook PrizePicks x Speakeasy Pick MORE or LESS. Win cash. Talk your talk. Play $5, get $50 in lineups → PrizePicks | America's #1 Fantasy Sports App Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
00:13 – Intro, Eagles/Lions Misery & QB Struggles Chris and Mario commiserate over a brutal football week: Eagles' early collapse, Saquon's lone bright spot, Lions fighting to stay alive, and general frustration with both teams' energy and execution. 02:28 – Falcons Collapse & Rams' Draft Gift They dissect Atlanta's disastrous trajectory, Raheem Morris' future, and how a potential top-five pick—owned by the Rams—shapes LA's rebuild. They debate whether the Rams should consider a QB if one unexpectedly falls. 07:42 – Cardinals Offense & Jacoby Brissett Stability Brissett's competence sparks talk about Arizona's future, Kyler uncertainty, Michael Wilson's emergence, and whether the Cards should reset the QB position. 10:26 – Ravens vs Bengals Identity Crisis Both teams flash promise but keep collapsing; discussion centers on inconsistency, injuries, and unclear ceilings. 11:39 – Bills vs Patriots State of the AFC AFC parity, Buffalo's turnovers, New England's surprising record, and how both teams are stuck between good and not-quite-great. 13:50 – The Josh Allen WR Problem The hosts vent about Buffalo refusing to provide Allen a true WR1 and compare it to McNabb's early-career struggles with weak receiving rooms. 17:20 – Hurts/A.J. Brown Dynamic & Leadership Questions A long debate on personality fit, sideline demeanor, Alabama recruiting history, and expectations on QBs as emotional leaders. 19:52 – Eagles' Remaining Schedule & Concerns Why Philly could still limp in, issues with coaching, and the remaining Raiders/Commanders/Commanders stretch. 20:17 – Browns at Bears: QB Carousel, Shador Reality Check How Shador compares to previous weeks, Browns' coaching turmoil, Stefanski's decisions, and Chicago's pressure with Caleb Williams' development. 23:50 – Browns Job Attractiveness & Coaching Candidates Evaluating the appeal of the role, Watson contract timeline, roster strengths, and a weak upcoming coaching cycle (Joe Brady, Thomas Brown, Marcus Freeman, etc.). 33:30 – Notre Dame Fallout & Bowl Boycott Reactions to Notre Dame declining postseason play, what it means for seniors, and locker-room optics. NFL Week Games 02:28 – Falcons at Buccaneers Falcons' energy crisis vs. Bucs' evaluation week. 07:31 – Cardinals at Texans Texans' defense surging; Cardinals relying on Brissett stabilization. 10:26 – Ravens at Bengals Two talented but inconsistent teams battling identity issues. 11:38 – Bills at Patriots A measuring-stick game between streaky AFC sides. 20:17 – Browns at Bears Young QBs under scrutiny; both defenses determining outcomes. 33:47 – Eagles at Raiders Philly needing a reset game; Raiders limited offensively. 34:45 – Chargers at Chiefs Kansas City's survival mode vs. LA searching for direction. 39:22 – Jets at Jaguars QB uncertainty for New York; Jaguars proving staying power. 42:33 – Commanders at Giants Injuries and QB mismanagement framing both teams' seasons. 45:28 – Panthers at Saints Carolina's growing belief vs. New Orleans' inconsistency. 49:12 – Lions at Rams A litmus test for Detroit; LA steadying behind veteran stars. 50:51 – Packers at Broncos Evaluating Bo Nix's long-term ceiling vs. Denver's revived defense. 54:51 – Colts at Seahawks Colts turning to 44-year-old Phillip Rivers; Seattle heavily favored. 56:49 – Titans at 49ers Tennessee buying into Mike McCoy's culture; San Francisco overpowering. 57:25 – Vikings at Cowboys Minnesota volatile week-to-week; Dallas explosive at home. 57:56 – Dolphins at Steelers Miami's speed vs. Pittsburgh's physical style in cold weather.
Ken Carman and Anthony Lima discuss the possibility of re-evaluating the state of the Cleveland Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski if Shedeur Sanders continues to play well.
Ken Carman and Anthony Lima discuss a topic that could tear the show apart, while asking fans if Kevin Stefanski deserves credit for his handling of Shedeur Sanders.
Hour 2: "Playing it straight" on Shedeur + Does Stefanski deserve some credit? full 2061 Thu, 11 Dec 2025 15:26:54 +0000 LlO5cZIzuqwy1jf5jVg4NyagZS5WijEn sports The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima sports Hour 2: "Playing it straight" on Shedeur + Does Stefanski deserve some credit? The only place to talk about the Cleveland sports scene is with Ken Carman and Anthony Lima. The two guide listeners through the ups and downs of being a fan of the Browns, Cavaliers, Guardians and Ohio State Buckeyes in Northeast Ohio. They'll help you stay informed with breaking news, game coverage, and interviews with top personalities.Catch The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima live Monday through Friday (6 a.m. - 10 a.m ET) on 92.3 The Fan, the exclusive audio home of the Browns, or on the Audacy app. For more, follow the show on X @KenCarmanShow. 2024 © 2021 Audacy, Inc. Sports False https://player
On this episode, hear from Browns HC Kevin Stefanski, QB Shedeur Sanders, WR Jerry Jeudy, and CB Denzel Ward on Wednesday's availability ahead of a Week 15 trip to Chicago to take on the Bears.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Thursday at 11:15 PM ET. Hosted by Emmanuel Acho with LeSean “Shady” McCoy and "Carebear" Kieran, the show brings hot takes, cold truths, and culturally forward conversations that connect sports and culture in real time. YouTube Twitter Instagram TikTok Facebook PrizePicks x Speakeasy Pick MORE or LESS. Win cash. Talk your talk. Play $5, get $50 → PrizePicks | America's #1 Fantasy Sports App Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode, hear from Browns HC Kevin Stefanski, RB Dylan Sampson, and DE Alex Wright on Monday's availability following Week 14's game against the Tennessee Titans.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.