Grrl on Grrl: intersectional and trans-inclusive music & interview show

Welcome to Grrl on Grrl episode 34 with Lys Guillorn, a “solo artist with a band”. Lys and I recorded this all the way back in *last* July in 2017. Since then, she has released the split single “How to Move a Mountain” and more recently the song “Tinctoria”. (i’m sorry DID I JUST READ […]

Welcome to Grrl on Grrl episode 34 with Lys Guillorn, a “solo artist with a band”. Lys and I recorded this all the way back in *last* July in 2017. Since then, she has released the split single “How to Move a Mountain” and more recently the song “Tinctoria”. (i’m sorry DID I JUST READ […]

Welcome to Grrl on Grrl episode 33! In this episode, Carina Browder joined me over Skype……….. more than a year ago, to discuss writing about music, especially in the pop punk scene, talking shit about a *certain music publication* and offering less problematic ways to learn about music and embrace diversity. She is currently on […]

Welcome to Grrl on Grrl episode 33! In this episode, Carina Browder joined me over Skype……….. more than a year ago, to discuss writing about music, especially in the pop punk scene, talking shit about a *certain music publication* and offering less problematic ways to learn about music and embrace diversity. She is currently on […]

Welcome to Grrl on Grrl episode 32, featuring Lisa Mungo of metal band He Whose Ox is Gored and hardcore band Fucked and Bound. Since the interview, Lisa's other band--who we talk about but not name in this episode--Fucked and Bound, announced the release of their first album Suffrage. We also talk about Lisa's expectations moving to Seattle and what she ultimately found there, how the city can foster the adventures of a newer band who's still learning the ropes, and then a bit on her responsibility as a fellow woman to speak against misogyny while also balancing the need to ignore it at times. 

Welcome to Grrl on Grrl episode 32, featuring Lisa Mungo of metal band He Whose Ox is Gored and hardcore band Fucked and Bound. Since the interview, Lisa's other band--who we talk about but not name in this episode--Fucked and Bound, announced the release of their first album Suffrage. We also talk about Lisa's expectations moving to Seattle and what she ultimately found there, how the city can foster the adventures of a newer band who's still learning the ropes, and then a bit on her responsibility as a fellow woman to speak against misogyny while also balancing the need to ignore it at times. 

Welcome to Grrl on Grrl's very first BONUS EPISODE, featuring deleted clips from Emily Williams' interview (which you can listen to here)! In this bonus episode, we'll talk about Emily's changing psychosexuality pre- and post-transition, how science can help or hinder the exploration of gender and sexuality, and general science talk.

Emily Williams and I talk about her music project Axis Evil--some weird time signature drum stuff, some weird guitar stuff,  a sitar she bought in India, along with some very, very personal lyrics; navigating her trans-ness and her woman-ness thru the lenses of her science and engineering background at her blog Genderpunk.net; and being a token minority. The interview was recorded early 2017, when she had just recently released her album City of God. Since then, she's released a second album Light Me Up and Love the Bomb in September of 2017, and she continues to release new material.

Welcome to Grrl on Grrl's very first BONUS EPISODE, featuring deleted clips from Emily Williams' interview (which you can listen to here)! In this bonus episode, we'll talk about Emily's changing psychosexuality pre- and post-transition, how science can help or hinder the exploration of gender and sexuality, and general science talk.

Emily Williams and I talk about her music project Axis Evil--some weird time signature drum stuff, some weird guitar stuff,  a sitar she bought in India, along with some very, very personal lyrics; navigating her trans-ness and her woman-ness thru the lenses of her science and engineering background at her blog Genderpunk.net; and being a token minority. The interview was recorded early 2017, when she had just recently released her album City of God. Since then, she's released a second album Light Me Up and Love the Bomb in September of 2017, and she continues to release new material.

I met Danielle at the SD Women Music Industry night last year and was intrigued with her work running a DIY record label in Savannah, Georgia where she attended SCAD. She now works for San Diego-based Topshelf Records.  In this interview we talk about the ups and downs of running a house venue, her DIY label Bomb Shelter Records, and one way to foster safety in the music scene. A warning in relation to our discussion on a safe scene: we talk about PWR BTTM as one example of a band fighting for safe spaces. Unfortunately, since the interview, Ben Hopkins has been accused of sexual assault. For more info and resources, check further down in the show notes. Thank you to Danielle Leonard (and Marty!) for chatting with me and to all the artists for permission to use their song on the podcast. And thank you to The Fresh Brunettes, who are providing their song "Best of the Worst" as the new Grrl on Grrl theme song! You can find their album Fouled Up Beyond All Recognition on CDBaby.

I met Danielle at the SD Women Music Industry night last year and was intrigued with her work running a DIY record label in Savannah, Georgia where she attended SCAD. She now works for San Diego-based Topshelf Records.  In this interview we talk about the ups and downs of running a house venue, her DIY label Bomb Shelter Records, and one way to foster safety in the music scene. A warning in relation to our discussion on a safe scene: we talk about PWR BTTM as one example of a band fighting for safe spaces. Unfortunately, since the interview, Ben Hopkins has been accused of sexual assault. For more info and resources, check further down in the show notes. Thank you to Danielle Leonard (and Marty!) for chatting with me and to all the artists for permission to use their song on the podcast. And thank you to The Fresh Brunettes, who are providing their song "Best of the Worst" as the new Grrl on Grrl theme song! You can find their album Fouled Up Beyond All Recognition on CDBaby.

Hey folks! Thanks for your patience waiting for new interviews. For now, here's a mini-episode ("Interlude") with some podcast updates and some rad poetry from Felicia Williams and music from Polish and No Vacations.

Hey folks! Thanks for your patience waiting for new interviews. For now, here's a mini-episode ("Interlude") with some podcast updates and some rad poetry from Felicia Williams and music from Polish and No Vacations.

Dee Clement joins me over Skype to talk about her new project Lonely Bones. Why can’t Dee write any love songs? Why does she insist on writing songs while driving? And what’s up with Instagram? We talk about those questions and more! Previously of Peachy Keene and Sullen Ray, Dee Clement has been playing music […]

Dee Clement joins me over Skype to talk about her new project Lonely Bones. Why can’t Dee write any love songs? Why does she insist on writing songs while driving? And what’s up with Instagram? We talk about those questions and more! Previously of Peachy Keene and Sullen Ray, Dee Clement has been playing music […]

Jenna Alonzo joined me over Skype to talk about her website SoCal Indie Musicians, which she uses as a platform to help herself and other bands promote themselves and book shows, either through her blog or one-on-one. Artists featured: Black Jacobins, The Black Heartthrobs, Frequency Within

Jenna Alonzo joined me over Skype to talk about her website SoCal Indie Musicians, which she uses as a platform to help herself and other bands promote themselves and book shows, either through her blog or one-on-one. Artists featured: Black Jacobins, The Black Heartthrobs, Frequency Within

This episode of Grrl on Grrl features Aleisha and Alexis of San Diego "femme punk" band The Fresh Brunettes. Their bassist Paul was also in the room, but didn't say much, as bassists are wont to do, and Fresh Brunettes' dog mascot Cosmo also graced us with his presence. Besides the amazing songs from Lisa Prank, Soft Lions, the Candelights, you'll hear Alexis and Aleisha talk about preconceived notions of what a guitarist or drummer should look like, some inspiration for their songs, and what they appreciate when interacting with their audience.

This episode of Grrl on Grrl features Aleisha and Alexis of San Diego "femme punk" band The Fresh Brunettes. Their bassist Paul was also in the room, but didn't say much, as bassists are wont to do, and Fresh Brunettes' dog mascot Cosmo also graced us with his presence. Besides the amazing songs from Lisa Prank, Soft Lions, the Candelights, you'll hear Alexis and Aleisha talk about preconceived notions of what a guitarist or drummer should look like, some inspiration for their songs, and what they appreciate when interacting with their audience.

For episode 27, I interviewed Oakland-based solo artist Diana Regan, who records and releases her music straight from her home! In the episode, we talk about the stories behind her songs and our process transposing and performing our songs in different instruments--in her case, ukulele to guitar; for me, ukulele to piano. We also touch on the Ghost Ship warehouse fire in Oakland last year, and how DIY spaces and communities like that saved Diana in her younger years. Not-so-fun fact: I originally interviewed Diana in early 2016 but because of technical difficulties, I had to scrap the interview. Fortunately Diana was willing to sit down with me for a SECOND interview. Thanks to Diana for her patience! Content Warning: We talk extensively about dealing with depression, and also have mentions of self-harm, addiction, and trauma.

For episode 27, I interviewed Oakland-based solo artist Diana Regan, who records and releases her music straight from her home! In the episode, we talk about the stories behind her songs and our process transposing and performing our songs in different instruments--in her case, ukulele to guitar; for me, ukulele to piano. We also touch on the Ghost Ship warehouse fire in Oakland last year, and how DIY spaces and communities like that saved Diana in her younger years. Not-so-fun fact: I originally interviewed Diana in early 2016 but because of technical difficulties, I had to scrap the interview. Fortunately Diana was willing to sit down with me for a SECOND interview. Thanks to Diana for her patience! Content Warning: We talk extensively about dealing with depression, and also have mentions of self-harm, addiction, and trauma.

Welcome to episode 25 of Grrl on Grrl with Anna Levitt of San Diego folk band Crooked. In this episode we talk about the differences between classical violin and fiddle, gender at Anna's alma mater Smith College and with babies, and the two different faces of her band Crooked. Disclaimer/corrections on the portion about Smith College: During the interview we talk about how trans men are included in Smith, but it looks like that is not the case any longer. If you look at their gender inclusion policy on their site, they admit women (cis and trans), do not include trans men, and then have a complete non-answer for genderqueer and gender nonconforming individuals. Don't forget to check the show notes for links to the City Heights Music School, San Diego Folk Heritage Society, and more!

Welcome to episode 25 of Grrl on Grrl with Anna Levitt of San Diego folk band Crooked. In this episode we talk about the differences between classical violin and fiddle, gender at Anna's alma mater Smith College and with babies, and the two different faces of her band Crooked. Disclaimer/corrections on the portion about Smith College: During the interview we talk about how trans men are included in Smith, but it looks like that is not the case any longer. If you look at their gender inclusion policy on their site, they admit women (cis and trans), do not include trans men, and then have a complete non-answer for genderqueer and gender nonconforming individuals. Don't forget to check the show notes for links to the City Heights Music School, San Diego Folk Heritage Society, and more!

Stefanie joined me online after Caustic Casanova's 2016 tour to talk about their almost-comical bad luck streak during the first week of their tour, some tour tips, a bit about their record label Retro Futurist, and the difficult time and plain hard work she put in to recover from breaking *both* her wrists. I also bust out my trumpet playing story again, but this time to learn about Stefanie's slight subterfuge when it came to finally playing the drums in high school. Based in Washington D.C., Caustic Casanova has been described as "heavy metal B-52s" and other crossovers that usually involve the words "hard", "heavy", and "psychedelic." They'll be recording a new album starting in April, before going on yet another summer tour, so keep an eye out for tour dates. You do NOT want to miss them!

Stefanie joined me online after Caustic Casanova's 2016 tour to talk about their almost-comical bad luck streak during the first week of their tour, some tour tips, a bit about their record label Retro Futurist, and the difficult time and plain hard work she put in to recover from breaking *both* her wrists. I also bust out my trumpet playing story again, but this time to learn about Stefanie's slight subterfuge when it came to finally playing the drums in high school. Based in Washington D.C., Caustic Casanova has been described as "heavy metal B-52s" and other crossovers that usually involve the words "hard", "heavy", and "psychedelic." They'll be recording a new album starting in April, before going on yet another summer tour, so keep an eye out for tour dates. You do NOT want to miss them!

Interlude 004 is all about inclusivity/exclusivity: from podcasts that interview with inclusivity in mind to the global women's march in January. Plus, "Nvr Pass" by previous Grrl on Grrl guest Emma with her band She/Her/Hers, the poem "A Kind of Dying" by San Diego poet Felicia Williams, and a deleted interview clip featuring Liz of The Fictitious Dishes. Wanna submit your poetry and flash fiction to be featured in an Interlude episode? Shoot me an email! Don't forget to rate & review Grrl on Grrl on iTunes or Stitcher, and you can follow me on Twitter and Instagram @grrlongrrl, or you can like the Grrl on Grrl Podcast page on Facebook.

Interlude 004 is all about inclusivity/exclusivity: from podcasts that interview with inclusivity in mind to the global women's march in January. Plus, "Nvr Pass" by previous Grrl on Grrl guest Emma with her band She/Her/Hers, the poem "A Kind of Dying" by San Diego poet Felicia Williams, and a deleted interview clip featuring Liz of The Fictitious Dishes. Wanna submit your poetry and flash fiction to be featured in an Interlude episode? Shoot me an email! Don't forget to rate & review Grrl on Grrl on iTunes or Stitcher, and you can follow me on Twitter and Instagram @grrlongrrl, or you can like the Grrl on Grrl Podcast page on Facebook.

All four members of the Fictitious Dishes (Taryn, Liz, Maggie, and Jacquie) join me on this episode of Grrl on Grrl to talk about whether or not to expect people to pay for their music, the possibilities of working with a producer, some conflicting messages from showgoers when Taryn's husband Hugh (of Slum Summer) filled in for Liz, and double standards and confusion in feminism and music. This is the first time I recorded more than 2 people on separate mics. It needs some work, but I definitely learned a lot and I have some goals to reach the level of quality I really want in the future. For now, I hope I fixed the levels enough in post that you can hear everybody well! Grrl on Grrl is now back on its biweekly schedule. Are you excited? I'm excited. Relieved and excited. Thanks for listening!

All four members of the Fictitious Dishes (Taryn, Liz, Maggie, and Jacquie) join me on this episode of Grrl on Grrl to talk about whether or not to expect people to pay for their music, the possibilities of working with a producer, some conflicting messages from showgoers when Taryn's husband Hugh (of Slum Summer) filled in for Liz, and double standards and confusion in feminism and music. This is the first time I recorded more than 2 people on separate mics. It needs some work, but I definitely learned a lot and I have some goals to reach the level of quality I really want in the future. For now, I hope I fixed the levels enough in post that you can hear everybody well! Grrl on Grrl is now back on its biweekly schedule. Are you excited? I'm excited. Relieved and excited. Thanks for listening!

In this quick episode, I give some updates on past Grrl on Grrl guests, including new albums and award nominations! Plus I plug a great podcast and a couple of articles about journalism and fake news, and a quick update on Backpage.com--which I talked about in Interlude Episode 001--and some organizations to check out in the wake up the shutdown. I also have the pleasure of talking over some ambient music created by Asher Mendel, because I felt weird having just my voice talking with no background. So uh, what do you think? Is it too distracting? Too gloomy? TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK.

In this quick episode, I give some updates on past Grrl on Grrl guests, including new albums and award nominations! Plus I plug a great podcast and a couple of articles about journalism and fake news, and a quick update on Backpage.com--which I talked about in Interlude Episode 001--and some organizations to check out in the wake up the shutdown. I also have the pleasure of talking over some ambient music created by Asher Mendel, because I felt weird having just my voice talking with no background. So uh, what do you think? Is it too distracting? Too gloomy? TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK.

Happy new year, folks, and welcome to episode #22 of Grrl on Grrl! In this episode, you'll hear Sarah Quintero of Spotlights, a sludgegaze band from New York. She and Mario, who you heard mentioned in a cut segment I included in one of the previous Interlude episode, met in San Diego, before moving to Brooklyn where they are now based. In summer of 2016, they toured with Refused and Deftones! You'll hear more about that in the interview. We also talk about their goals with growing the band and the supportive music scene in New York. The first episode of 2017 runs a bit longer at 53 minutes, but it's totally worth it because you'll get to hear not only Spotlights, but San Diego's Sleeping People and Seattle-based band He Whose Ox Is Gored. Enjoy!

Happy new year, folks, and welcome to episode #22 of Grrl on Grrl! In this episode, you'll hear Sarah Quintero of Spotlights, a sludgegaze band from New York. She and Mario, who you heard mentioned in a cut segment I included in one of the previous Interlude episode, met in San Diego, before moving to Brooklyn where they are now based. In summer of 2016, they toured with Refused and Deftones! You'll hear more about that in the interview. We also talk about their goals with growing the band and the supportive music scene in New York. The first episode of 2017 runs a bit longer at 53 minutes, but it's totally worth it because you'll get to hear not only Spotlights, but San Diego's Sleeping People and Seattle-based band He Whose Ox Is Gored. Enjoy!

In this episode, Angie of Duping the Public and I talk about DTP's songumentary series--which documents their songwriting, production, and recording process, lifting women up in a male-dominated industry, how soul-sucking "going pro" in any industry can be, and the strides women have made in the music scene.

In this episode, Angie of Duping the Public and I talk about DTP's songumentary series--which documents their songwriting, production, and recording process, lifting women up in a male-dominated industry, how soul-sucking "going pro" in any industry can be, and the strides women have made in the music scene.

In this Interlude, you get to listen to a song off Blackberry Tongues latest EP put out in July, hear about Icelandic women's protest about the unfair wage gap this past October, and a little bit about the Newsweek story on War on Women, which Grrl on Grrl listener Molly sent me. Let's build a Grrl on Grrl community! Start posting cool links, feminist resources, news stories, or anything else you'd think I or other Grrl on Grrl listeners will be interested. You can post them on our Facebook page, shoot me an email, or send a tweet! I might even mention you in future episodes! Question of the month: How has your gender, class, and race affected your work environment? Shoot me an email at grrlongrrlpodcast@gmail.com or comment on Facebook or Twitter! I may share your thoughts on future episodes.

In this Interlude, you get to listen to a song off Blackberry Tongues latest EP put out in July, hear about Icelandic women's protest about the unfair wage gap this past October, and a little bit about the Newsweek story on War on Women, which Grrl on Grrl listener Molly sent me. Let's build a Grrl on Grrl community! Start posting cool links, feminist resources, news stories, or anything else you'd think I or other Grrl on Grrl listeners will be interested. You can post them on our Facebook page, shoot me an email, or send a tweet! I might even mention you in future episodes! Question of the month: How has your gender, class, and race affected your work environment? Shoot me an email at grrlongrrlpodcast@gmail.com or comment on Facebook or Twitter! I may share your thoughts on future episodes.

For episode 20, all three members of the self-proclaimed super queer, super slutty Oakland band Spray Tan--Andrea, Dorsey, and Lindsay--joined me online to talk about their experiences touring and staying safe as a queer band. We talk a bit about what came first--the punk or the queer?, how they determine when they play one of their more incendiary songs, and a bit of their songwriting process. (Hint: I wish I could be there.)

For episode 20, all three members of the self-proclaimed super queer, super slutty Oakland band Spray Tan--Andrea, Dorsey, and Lindsay--joined me online to talk about their experiences touring and staying safe as a queer band. We talk a bit about what came first--the punk or the queer?, how they determine when they play one of their more incendiary songs, and a bit of their songwriting process. (Hint: I wish I could be there.)

Here's the very first Grrl on Grrl Interlude episode! In this short episode, I cover Grrl on Grrl news, upcoming album releases in October, and quotes from articles regarding the recent arrest of the Backpage CEO. Listen below, and don't forget to check out the links to bands and articles mentioned as well.

Here's the very first Grrl on Grrl Interlude episode! In this short episode, I cover Grrl on Grrl news, upcoming album releases in October, and quotes from articles regarding the recent arrest of the Backpage CEO. Listen below, and don't forget to check out the links to bands and articles mentioned as well.

Year 2 of Grrl on Grrl continues with episode 19 featuring Megan Liscomb of San Diego band Soft Lions. In this episode, Megan and I talk about working with a record label, insecurities as a live musician, and differences in objectification depending on your role in the band. Soft Lions is also a frequent participant of Monica Mendoza's shows for GRRRL Independent Ladies, which you can hear more about on Monica's episode of Grrl on Grrl. Keep an ear out for news on their upcoming album to be released on Velvet Blue Records late October.

Year 2 of Grrl on Grrl continues with episode 19 featuring Megan Liscomb of San Diego band Soft Lions. In this episode, Megan and I talk about working with a record label, insecurities as a live musician, and differences in objectification depending on your role in the band. Soft Lions is also a frequent participant of Monica Mendoza's shows for GRRRL Independent Ladies, which you can hear more about on Monica's episode of Grrl on Grrl. Keep an ear out for news on their upcoming album to be released on Velvet Blue Records late October.

Grrl on Grrl Year Two officially begins with episode 18 featuring solo artist Hailey Wojcik. Stop-motion animator and pop rock extraordinaire, Hailey is a talented artist and musician, dedicated to improving her crafts. In this episode, we talk about Hailey's workflow for booking tours, unwanted physical contact at shows (and other male micro-aggressions), how we can address and fix them, along with plans for her upcoming tour and new album currently being recorded.

Grrl on Grrl Year Two officially begins with episode 18 featuring solo artist Hailey Wojcik. Stop-motion animator and pop rock extraordinaire, Hailey is a talented artist and musician, dedicated to improving her crafts. In this episode, we talk about Hailey's workflow for booking tours, unwanted physical contact at shows (and other male micro-aggressions), how we can address and fix them, along with plans for her upcoming tour and new album currently being recorded.

Grrl on Grrl goes INTERNATIONAL! Coco Tigler is one part of the German duo The Fever. She joined me over the phone on the last day of their spring US tour. As an American expat, she shares her views on the music scenes in Berlin and in the US, the differences of touring the US versus Europe, censorship (specifically in regards to women), and finances.

Grrl on Grrl goes INTERNATIONAL! Coco Tigler is one part of the German duo The Fever. She joined me over the phone on the last day of their spring US tour. As an American expat, she shares her views on the music scenes in Berlin and in the US, the differences of touring the US versus Europe, censorship (specifically in regards to women), and finances.

In San Diego where I'm based, the question of what "to do" with the southern border is, in turns, ignored by many yet extremely relevant to others. For Mónica, who grew up in Tijuana, the border is a social construct that can bring people together. In this episode, we talk about using the border to connect musicians and artists from Tijuana, San Diego, and Los Angeles and the importance of listening to music in our own languages. And of course, we talk about her band Le Ra and her frontera organization GRRRL Independent Ladies. This episode also guests poet Felicia Williams and artist Alison Dunlevy.

In San Diego where I'm based, the question of what "to do" with the southern border is, in turns, ignored by many yet extremely relevant to others. For Mónica, who grew up in Tijuana, the border is a social construct that can bring people together. In this episode, we talk about using the border to connect musicians and artists from Tijuana, San Diego, and Los Angeles and the importance of listening to music in our own languages. And of course, we talk about her band Le Ra and her frontera organization GRRRL Independent Ladies. This episode also guests poet Felicia Williams and artist Alison Dunlevy.

For episode 15, I interviewed Tracie Loo of Sir Coyler and His Asthmatic Band. Despite being based in Seattle, they recorded their upcoming EP at a San Diego studio, and I had a chance to see them play at local venue Tower Bar. Tracie joined me right before her flight back to Seattle. Good thing I live 5 minutes away from the airport! Tracie contributes, records, and plays as drummer with Sir Coyler & His Asthmatic Band. In this episode, we talk about the importance of band chemistry when it comes to creating music together, stereotypes we have to deal with as Asian Americans, and how to (theoretically) build a fanbase as an indie band.