Snake & Banter

Join Thorin, Mauisnake, and guest TeaTime on Snake and Banter as they dissect the latest Counter-Strike esports drama in this can't-miss esports podcast episode! We have an in-depth discussion on the current state of CS2 and the evolving esports landscape. The conversation also tackles big-picture topics such as the decline in top-tier team narratives, FaZe Clan's struggles, MOUZ's concerning T-side stats, and how roster changes at organizations like Astralis and Spirit could shift the CS2 competitive landscape. Thorin, Mauisnake, and TeaTime debate the importance of star players versus win-by-committee styles, the role of specialist talent in broadcasts, and the politics between TOs like ESL and PGL that affect event quality. The trio dive into the realities of working in Tier 2 Counter-Strike, from pay disparities and post-pandemic opportunities to the grind of online tournaments and the challenges of breaking into Tier 1. They examine the impact of Valve's VRS system, how it's reshaping the tournament calendar, and why 2025 might be one of the best years ever for Tier 2 competition. Along the way, they share behind-the-scenes stories about commentary careers, networking, and surviving in the volatile world of esports broadcasting. Whether you're a hardcore Counter-Strike fan, a CS2 player, or just an esports enthusiast, this episode offers sharp analysis, insider perspectives, and plenty of candid banter about the game's biggest storylines Go to https://buyraycon.com/SNAKE to get 20% off sitewide TODAY! One thing to pack, five ways to power! You can get 10% off Ridge's Power Bank by going to https://www.Ridge.com and using code SNAKE at checkout

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Cxzi to chat about FalleN and his ranking as an IGL in CS2 esports, Spirit's recent struggles despite being ranked so highly, broky's comeback tour for FaZe, problems with the VRS system in Counter-Strike, and more! Last Free Nation's new collaboration t-shirt with Into the AM is out now! Equip yourself with this high-quality shirt (featuring a familiar insignia) now! While you're there, you can also shop the Into the AM Labor Day Sale! Items are up to 50% sitewide until the 7th of September. This is in addition to the 10% off you always get by using our link: https://intotheam.com/LFN-tee2 Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get 20% off + free shipping with promo code CS2 at https://www.shopmando.com! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/SNAKE and use code SNAKE and get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup!

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Ne0kai to chat about The MongolZ winning CS2 at the Esports World Cup and their impact on Asian Counter-Strike, problems with HLTV 3.0, tn1r and Spirit, ZywOo's weak August with Vitality, and more.

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by voo to chat about Counter-Strike, the state of FaZe, reactions to HLTV 3.0, The MongolZ defeating Vitality, disappointments from NAVI, MOUZ, and GamerLegion, and more. Go to https://www.buyraycon.com/snake TODAY to get up to 20% off the fan-favorite Everyday Earbuds Classic!

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by YouM3 to chat about Team Liquid, s1mple playing for BC.Game, recent updates to CS2, tn1r replacing zont1x on Spirit, and more! Start reliving your favorite memories with Aura Frames. For a limited time, listeners can get $35-off on their best-selling Carver Mat frame by going to https://auraframes.com and using the promo code SANDB. Offer may vary by country. Terms and conditions apply.

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Dinko to chat about the CS community's perception of EliGE, Spirit's capability to win trophies this year, why the BLAST Bounty format is good, the news about YaLLA Compass, the proliferation of big online events, and more! Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get 20% off + free shipping with promo code CS2 at https://www.shopmando.com! Get 10% Off your entire order & take advantage of Ridge's Annual Sweepstakes by going to https://www.Ridge.com/SNAKE

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Launders to discuss kyousuke's amazing debut for Team Falcons at IEM Cologne, why time spent on NiP DOES count now, faltering of FaZe and GamerLegion, the prevalence of cheating and match fixing in CS2 tier 2 and below, and more! ​Improve your game with a cutting-edge Wooting keyboard and get a free uWu now! Simply add any keyboard and uWu to your cart with code SNAKE and get your uWu for free! Go to https://link.wooting.io/snake ​Get the ultimate immersive gaming experience with Turtle Beach today! For a limited time only, head to https://TurtleBeach.com and use Code CSGO for 10% off your entire order. Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get 20% off + free shipping with promo code CS2 at https://www.shopmando.com! Go to https://www.buyraycon.com/snake TODAY to get up to 20% off the fan-favorite Everyday Earbuds Classic!

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Nohte, Senior Staff Writer at HLTV,  to discuss a good balance update from Valve, Overpass replacing Anubis, hype around IEM Cologne, Falcons skipping the next 2 BLAST events, mismanagement at Wildcard, and more! ​Get the ultimate immersive gaming experience with Turtle Beach today! For a limited time only, head to https://TurtleBeach.com and use Code CSGO for 10% off your entire order. Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get 20% off + free shipping with promo code CS2 at https://www.shopmando.com! The Last Free Nation merch shop is open! Show off your fandom and support us and by purchasing  the high-quality items on our merch shop. Check our website for more info on shipping! https://go.lastfreenation.shop/snake

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Paladin to discuss the CS2 case opening by ohnepixel and others, the lack of hype roster moves this offseason, Snax getting benched on G2, the state of HEROIC, the lackluster souvenir charm highlights, and more! ​Improve your game with a cutting-edge Wooting keyboard and get a free uWu now! Simply add any keyboard and uWu to your cart with code SNAKE and get your uWu for free! Go to https://link.wooting.io/snake Upgrade your wallet today! Get 10% Off at Ridge with code SNAKE at https://www.Ridge.com/SNAKE Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get 20% off + free shipping with promo code CS2 at https://www.shopmando.com!The Last Free Nation merch shop is open! Show off your fandom and support us and by purchasing the high-quality items on our merch shop. Check our website for more info on shipping! https://go.lastfreenation.shop/htpmyt

Thorin and Mauisnake celebrate the 100th episode of Snake and Banter with guest Sean Gares! They chat about why Falcons signing kyousuke is a good thing, the ugly truths about the state of s1mple and FaZe, the ongoing Vitality era of CS2, the potential of G2's new roster, reactions to the BLAST Austin Major, and more! Shop the Into the AM Fourth of July Sale with up to 60% OFF sitewide until July 7. Save an additional 10% by using our link: https://intotheam.com/LFN. Get the ultimate immersive gaming experience with Turtle Beach today! For a limited time only, head to https://TurtleBeach.com and use Code CSGO for 10% off your entire order. Upgrade your wallet today! Get 10% Off at Ridge with code SNAKE at https://www.Ridge.com/SNAKE Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get 20% off + free shipping with promo code CS2 at https://www.shopmando.com!

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by YNk to chat about s1mple's strong showing with FaZe at the BLAST Austin Major, NiKo missing out on Major glory once again, paiN and FURIA impressing, Aurora and Team Liquid's early exits, and more! Download the Sleeper app to play daily fantasy and receive a match up to $100 on your first deposit with code SNAKE - https://sleeper.com/download Get the ultimate immersive gaming experience with Turtle Beach today! For a limited time only, head to https://TurtleBeach.com and use Code CSGO for 10% off your entire order.

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by dusT to chat about the BLAST Austin Major, the lack of confidence for reigning Major Champions Team Spirit, what the NA teams' failure in Stage 1 means for the future of NA CS, s1mple's aura already surpassing many top 20 players, and more! The Last Free Nation merch shop is open! Show off your fandom and support us and by purchasing  the high-quality items on our merch shop. Check our website for more info on shipping! https://go.lastfreenation.shop/snakeyt Right now, just in time for Father's Day, Ridge is having a HUGE sale! Get up to 40% off your order at Ridge.com/SNAKE Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off off your Starter Pack (that's over 40% off) with promo code CS2 at https://www.shopmando.com! Exclusive $30-off Carver Mat at AuraFrames.com. Promo Code: SANDB (US, Canada, and UK only. Offer may vary by country)

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by walle to chat about FaZe and their importance to Counter-Strike esports, problems with narratives heading into the BLAST Austin Major, Valve fixing sprays in CS2 after a Reddit thread calling attention to it, The MongolZ bucking their Playoff choker status at IEM Dallas, and more! ​Improve your game with a cutting-edge Wooting keyboard and get a free uWu now! Simply add any keyboard and uWu to your cart with code SNAKE and get your uWu for free! Go to https://link.wooting.io/snake Get the ultimate immersive gaming experience with Turtle Beach today! For a limited time only, head to https://TurtleBeach.com and use Code CSGO for 10% off your entire order.

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Vince  to chat about s1mple's performances with FaZe at IEM Dallas, Team Liquid's level of play, NakeyJakey putting the spotlight on CS2's new player experience, the BESTIA and BLAST Major drama, the overall career of XANTARES, and more! Shop the Into the AM Memorial Day Sale with up to 70% OFF sitewide until June 1. Save an additional 10% by using our link: https://intotheam.com/LFN. Also, visit the Last Free Nation Discord to give feedback on our latest t-shirt design collaboration! Take advantage of Ridge's one-a-year anniversary sale and get UP TO 40% OFF right now by going to https://www.Ridge.com/SNAKE Get the ultimate immersive gaming experience with Turtle Beach today! For a limited time only, head to https://TurtleBeach.com and use Code CSGO for 10% off your entire order.

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Freya Spiers to chat about HooXi's level of play with Astralis, updates on the kyousuke sale to Falcons, the state of G2 as we approach the Austin Major, inconsistency in the timing of Valve's map pool changes, and more! Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off off your Starter Pack (that's over 40% off) with promo code CS2 at https://www.shopmando.com!

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by KingT to chat about s1mple playing for FaZe during IEM Dallas and the BLAST Austin Major, a roster rumor that could save G2, the exciting race for #1 player between donk, m0NESY, and ZywOo, the states of Aurora and NAVI, and more!

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by SJPUNJ to chat about EliGE and his effect on FaZe, Falcons and their rise to the top with m0NESY and NiKo, whether or not Magisk belongs on fraudwatch, the state of the CS2 competitive map pool, the BLAST Rivals format, and more! Exclusive $35-off Carver Mat at AuraFrames.com. Promo Code: SANDB (US, UK, and Canada only)

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by HLTV writer Dempz to chat about the potential for the NiKo x m0NESY Falcons to be top 3 globally, the disastrous HLTV Confirmed interview with G2's CEO, why Hooxi's move to Astralis is good for everyone (except maybe kassad), and more! Get the ultimate immersive gaming experience with Turtle Beach today! For a limited time only, head to https://TurtleBeach.com and use Code CSGO for 10% off your entire order.

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by JW, currently on EYEBALLERS, to chat about siuhy on Team Liquid, the pros and cons of the VRS system, the lack of big personalities in the Counter-Strike scene, the state of G2 as we approach the Austin Major, and more! This episode is sponsored by Into the AM! Save 10% on high-quality apparel by using our link: https://intotheam.com/LFN. Also, visit the Last Free Nation Discord to give feedback on our latest t-shirt design collaboration! Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off off your Starter Pack (that's over 40% off) with promo code CS2 at https://www.shopmando.com!

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by the legendary kennyS to discuss the thriving French CS scene, B1ad3's great work with NAVI, why the cadiaN on Astralis experiment needs to end, problems with BLAST seeding, the ugly state of NA Counter-Strike, and more. Exclusive $20-off Carver Mat at https://www.AuraFrames.com. Use code SANDB at checkout to save! (US only)

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Rejin, currently the Coach for Tricked Esport, to discuss poor communication by NAVI, recent cheating and match-fixing scandals in CS2 esports, why Eternal Fire made the best offseason signing, the return of small LAN events, and more.Thank you to INTOTHEAM for sponsoring this week's episode! Use our link to receive 10% discount on anything you purchase on the website: https://www.intotheam.com/lfn

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Rejin, currently the Coach for Tricked Esport, to discuss poor communication by NAVI, recent cheating and match-fixing scandals in CS2 esports, why Eternal Fire made the best offseason signing, the return of small LAN events, and more. Thank you to INTOTHEAM for sponsoring this week's episode! Use our link to receive 10% discount on anything you purchase on the website: https://www.intotheam.com/lfn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode of Snake and Banter, our hosts discuss the evolving landscape of competitive Counter-Strike, featuring insights into ESL Pro League's live seeding, FlyQuest's struggles, and NAVI's troubling trajectory. Special guest ynoT joins to share his perspectives on the rapidly changing tier 1.5 scene and the implications of Fragadelphia's VRS points attracting European teams. Tune in for a detailed analysis of the current competitive state and what the future holds for these top teams.Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off off your Starter Pack (that's over 40% off) with promo code CS2 at https://www.shopmando.com!

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Conner "Scrawny" Girvan to discuss the progress made by PGL, BLAST, and ESL, dona joining the talent lineup at EPL, the fun factor of Falcons, Eternal Fire not showing up on big matches, the new way FaZe is using EliGE, and more!Take advantage of Ridge's one-a-year anniversary sale and get UP TO 40% OFF right now by going to https://www.Ridge.com/SNAKEGet the ultimate immersive gaming experience with Turtle Beach today! For a limited time only, head to https://TurtleBeach.com and use Code CSGO for 10% off your entire order.

We discuss the evolving landscape of competitive Counter-Strike, featuring insights into ESL Pro League's live seeding, FlyQuest's struggles, and NAVI's troubling trajectory. Special guest ynoT joins to share his perspectives on the rapidly changing tier 1.5 scene and the implications of Fragadelphia's VRS points attracting European teams. Tune in for a detailed analysis of the current competitive state and what the future holds for these top teams. Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off off your Starter Pack (that's over 40% off) with promo code CS2 at https://www.shopmando.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Conner "Scrawny" Girvan to discuss the progress made by PGL, BLAST, and ESL, dona joining the talent lineup at EPL, the fun factor of Falcons, Eternal Fire not showing up on big matches, the new way FaZe is using EliGE, and more! Take advantage of Ridge's one-a-year anniversary sale and get UP TO 40% OFF right now by going to https://www.Ridge.com/SNAKE Get the ultimate immersive gaming experience with Turtle Beach today! For a limited time only, head to https://TurtleBeach.com and use Code CSGO for 10% off your entire order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

moses joins to discuss the Brazilian CS scene, VRS rule violations, frozen's strong performances, the faltering of Complexity, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

HLTV Senior Writer NER0cs joins to discuss Spinx on MOUZ, which CS players are being overrated, why The MongolZ have a bright future, 3DMAX, and more! Get the ultimate immersive gaming experience with Turtle Beach today! For a limited time only, head to https://TurtleBeach.com and use Code CSGO for 10% off your entire order. Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off off your Starter Pack (that's over 40% off) with promo code CS2 at https://www.shopmando.com! Exclusive $20-off Carver Mat at https://www.AuraFrames.com. Use code SANDB at checkout to save! (US only) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

zews shares his thoughts on Twistzz and Team Liquid, FaZe missing the IEM Katowice Playoffs, why narratives around G2 are so bad, the growth of electroNic, the rebuild of GamerLegion, and more! Go to https://www.buyraycon.com/snake TODAY to get 20% off your Raycon order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Boris "magixx" Vorobyev to discuss why chopper is so important to Team Spirit, the ridiculous Counter-Strike event calendar, magixx's amazing performance at the Major Finals, the rise of paiN Gaming, confusion about the Heroic roster, and more! Get the ultimate immersive gaming experience with Turtle Beach today! For a limited time only, head to https://TurtleBeach.com and use Code CSGO for 10% off your entire order. Thank you to INTOTHEAM for sponsoring this week's episode! Take part in their Anniversary Sale from January 22-February 9 with up to 50% OFF sitewide. Use our link to receive an additional 10% discount on anything you purchase on the website: https://www.intotheam.com/lfn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Chris "GoMeZ" Orfanellis to discuss the current state of Vitality, NiP and BetBoom's strong performances, the less-than-ideal status of how VRS invites are being done, the return of online Counter-Strike, and more. Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off off your Starter Pack (that's over 40% off) with promo code CS2 at https://www.shopmando.com! Get the ultimate immersive gaming experience with Turtle Beach today! For a limited time only, head to https://TurtleBeach.com and use Code CSGO for 10% off your entire order. This Valentine's Day, good things come in big packages at MeUndies. Score huge sitewide savings at https://www.meundies.com/snake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Allan Hender to discuss why the success of m0NESY may actually be hurting G2, why the BLAST Bounty Format works, ropz joining Vitality, a recent post by Heccu on X, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Dustin "dusT" Mouret to discuss donk's amazing year, strong performances at the Shanghai Major, Vitality, NAVI, and Falcons coming up short, the debate around what players can be considered "rookies", and more! Exclusive $35-off Carver Mat at https://www.AuraFrames.com. Use code SANDB at checkout to save! Get the ultimate immersive gaming experience with Turtle Beach today! For a limited time only, head to https://TurtleBeach.com and use Code CSGO for 10% off your entire order. EXPRESSVPN now sponsors Snake and Banter! Get THREE free months of service with our link: https://www.expressvpn.com/snakebanter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Sudhen "Bleh" Wahengbam to discuss The MongolZ qualifying for the Shanghai Major Playoffs, the state of Fnatic, South America's strong recent showings, NAVI missing out on the Major Playoffs, narratives around donk and Team Spirit, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Alex "Hawka" Hawkins to discuss the latest from the PW Counter-Strike Major, Tech Girl's strengths as a host, poor showings from Complexity and FlyQuest, the futures of Cloud9 and BIG, the consistency of "favorites" in CS2, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Ross "RossR" Rooney, currently the strategy and analysis lead at Fnatic, to discuss controversies around Valve and the rules for the Counter-Strike Major, blameF's strong performances, Astralis and Team Falcons missing another Major, GamerLegion's impressive team, the falloff of Danish CS, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Anders Blume to discuss DRILLAS and ohnePixel finding a loophole in the Major qualifier, f0rest's retirement, EliGE returning to greatness, tournament organizers favoring co-streamers over official broadcasts, MIBR on the rise, and more! Thank you to our sponsors for supporting today's episode. Thank you to INTOTHEAM for sponsoring this week's episode! Use our link to receive 10% discount on anything you purchase on the website: https://www.intotheam.com/lfn MeUndies sponsored this episode of Snake and Banter. Get 20% off your first order, plus free shipping, at https://www.meundies.com/snake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by journalist Jeff "Mnmzzz" Moore to discuss Team Liquid and NAVI's decline, the bright future for Counter-Strike in Asia, Vertigo potentially leaving the competitive map pool, a disappointing recent interview with the CEO of G2, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ne0ka joins to discuss MOUZ, kassad's redemption, getting rid of the RMR system, ENCE, the status of teams post-Major, s1mple returning to Falcons, the state of T2 CS, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chet "Chet" Singh joins to discuss FURIA's strong performances at IEM Rio, the Heroic lineup finally working well, disappointments from Complexity and G2, w0nderful's choking problem, Vitality's decision to have a stand-in at BLAST World Final, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Martin "STYKO" Styk joins to discuss the latest Valve update to Counter-Strike 2, the hosts joining Richard Lewis at Elisa Masters Espoo, SanPayus and s1mple, narratives around Snax, ultimate's fall-off, and more! Thank you to Turtle Beach for sponsoring this episode! Get the ultimate immersive gaming experience with Turtle Beach today! For a limited time only, head to https://TurtleBeach.com and use Code CSGO for 10% off your entire order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ashley "ashhh" Battye, currently the Head Coach for GamerLegion, joins to discuss cadiaN joining Astralis, whether HooXi would have been a better addition, the benefits of the CS academy teams, the messiness of Tier 2 CS, the collapse of ENCE, and more Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Harvey "Skriv" Rodgers to discuss donk narratives, FaZe's recent play, Eternal Fire, NiP, the upcoming CS event calendar, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Erik "fl0m" Flom to discuss the RMR qualifiers, Vitality, the "donk Curse," NiKo joining Falcons, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Jonathan "EliGE" Jablonowski, currently of Complexity Gaming, to discuss Valve's decision to ban Snap Tap, Vitality and MOUZ's performances at IEM Cologne, the slow death of NA CS, the disaster of VP, why the map pool needs to change, FaZe's potential comeback, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Jimmy "Jumpy" Berndtsson, the Coach for Sangal Esports, to discuss IEM Cologne, MOUZ's knack for finding new CS talent, skullz's redemption arc on FURIA, what Complexity needs in order to improve, recency bias, the end of the Astralis honeymoon period, and more.

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by austincs to discuss malbs and b1t's strong showings, reasons why karrigan should hang up the cape, visa issues involving degster, Complexity's incoherent gameplay, the CS:GO vs CS2 debate, r1nkle, and more!

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by KingT to discuss Jimpphat's status as a superstar, a welcome update to IEM Cologne, w0nderful's inconsistency, NiKo's performance and results at EWC, the lackluster state of NA CS, and more! Thank you to Mando for sponsoring this episode! Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with Mando and get $5 off off your Starter Pack (that's over 40% off) with promo code CS2 at https://www.shopmando.com!

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Alex "Hawka" Hawkins to discuss changes coming to BIG, HEN1 and the Brazilian scene's positive trajectory, a hot take on G2's roster move, too many players trying to copy dev1ce and become IGL tourists, the finalized smooya roster of Into The Breach, and more.

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Sam "Tech Girl" Wright to discuss jks joining Team Liquid, snax joining G2, up-and-coming talent being put in the spotlight, HLTV's current content, Cloud9's roster moves, KSCERATO and yuurih staying at FURIA, and more.

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by content creator "NartOutHere" to discuss HooXi's benching on G2, TeSeS staying at Heroic, rumors of HeavyGod joining Cloud9, f0rest's lack of recent competitive play, jL's statements during recent interviews, the ugly situation regarding ICY, and more.